Unfortunate reality is that they could have made so much more money if at release it was not buggy, and was not 40 dollars at launch, promised new features like mod support for consoles, and most of all if they gave any sort of care. But when every company follows the modern gaming dev cycle, it backfires
Mod support for consoles would have turned this game into one of the greatest console games ever made. Unrivaled, unparalleled, one of the greatest gaming experiences in history. And shit the bed, shrugged and said "Oops" and left the mess for others to clean up.
Words cannot describe how fucking pissed I am about this. I don’t know what’s worse - the fact that Asspyre thinks they can get away with fucking up such an obviously easy job, or the fact that there were so many dumbasses willing to run defense for this. It’s like cattle running to defend a slaughterhouse
OMG literally… the Aspyr shills are freakin mental. I think they’re just in denial about the $40 they wasted on a broken game 😜 Reminds me of this: ruclips.net/video/1XIcS63jA3w/видео.htmlsi=1nzDYKvjydfse8Zl
The more I hear how broken this port is, the happier I am that I still have my old physical copy. What's so hard about giving today's gamers the original experience? How can they mess this up so bad?
I think Aspyr shouldn't be the sole "devs" re-releasing old Star Wars content they couldn't do Star Wars Knights of the old Republic and Sith Lords, Republic Commandos etc for the Nintendo Switch without post launch issues. Battlefront Collection is just another example of Aspyr being a bad "development company". I'm not saying that Aspyr shouldn't make re-releases I'm saying that they shouldn't be the only company re-releasing game.
id have to disagree with that last part lol, personally i wouldnt mind if they got shut down. wah wah "peoples jobs" "they worked hard" those mfs dont work at all, they let an a.i fuck up a beloved game and called it a day. no one cared about this, no one at asypr put in any effort to make the game better, they shipped out a scam and are completely okay with just running away with the money. fuck asypr
This game is just disappointing and the mishandling of such gem makes me sad, I was excited to play online on console. Ended up installing the remaster proyect as I own a Pc nowadays.
So, 6 months and 3 updates later, and this remastered port is still a hot mess? Forget it man I’ll just go to my local retro game store and look for the psp version.
When this released, I had some dumbass telling me to "wait it out cause it'll get better and the game just came out" when I mentioned getting a refund for this game when it came out. No. I paid to have a good game now, not possibly having something playable in the future. This shit is exactly why I got that refund. You can't trust a game to "get better" when it's busted at launch. That should never be the expectation. The ones who are fine with that are fools who deserve to be out of their $60. Games should be working and complete at launch, or I say to hell with them and never look back. I have no time for that, and I have better things to spend my money on if they don't want to provide a good product. Simple as that. Yet again, I was, unfortunately, but expectedly correct in my assumption of how this game was going to be handled... I guess I'll just keep playing the original versions on the original Xbox. Sorry, I'm bitter about this. Not just with the game, itself, but the gaming industry and the consumers, because it highlights just how much lack of respect idiots are willing to take from the ones selling them the products.
Unfortunately asspyr is not Hello Games. They won't come back to fix the issues. They took the money and ran. I sincerely hope they go out of business and all of them have to work as burger flippers at MC Donalds.
Im still butt hurt about the classic collection. They took a perfectly functional game, broke it, and slapped a $35 price tag on it. I don't really understand game development or how computers work. But if you have a system 600 times more powerful than the original system, can't you have everything in the game be there and not have any pop in or low texture at long range issues. Fix the ai so they have better pathing. I didn't even try to play the classic collection with my friends. None of them wanted it, so i didn't even know about that viechle glitch. And why do developers always use the shitty pc ports for future remasters? It was the same thing for MCC, they used the crappy gearbox version of halo 1 and 2. They should of used the Xbox version it was the best console at the time running battlefront. For now on if i ever want to play Battlefront ill just play via backwards compatibility on my series X. Thats what i originally thought the classic collection was going to be like. Boy was i wrong
Those of us on the ps2 were so happy for this. There was so much hype behind this collection for it to die within the same month. Shit is crazy. We’re still trying to do tournaments on ps5
I have completely given up on the Battlefront Collection a while ago. When it was first announced I bought it for two specific reasons, the XL mode and multiplayer. Even with the patches the Multiplayer is still an absolute mess with real bad rubber banding, hit detection, and I was still having spawning issues the last time I played it. If anyone has never played this game I just recommend the original versions of the game for a fraction of the cost. Personally I find it a damn shame that Aspyr couldn’t make a genuine remaster of what is honestly one of my favorite games of all time.
As a console player, this was one of the first games I’ve bought in years without hesitation and expectation that it would be trash. The nostalgia got to me and I wanted to play on classic maps with players again. I completely wasted my money with this garbage and it was a sobering moment that I realized I need to be skeptical of every single game that releases. Thanks for this video, it really doesn’t make me want to reinstall the game anytime soon.
You deserve it. It's your duty to inform yourself and learn from historical precedent. You're a fool. Oh, because it's YOUR GAME, your SPECIAL childhood game it couldn't happen that you'd be betrayed right? Grow up.
I was playing an instant action match recently on PS5, Rhen Var Citadel. Despite clearly having at least 2 command posts left to capture it randomly triggered a "victory in 20s" for no reason. Just an example of another random bug I found (although that arguably works in your favour). It also crashes the game entirely when I try to play as Han Solo on Endor. Oddly, that's also an issue with PC mod versions too.
Yeah, I noticed something similar to that problem too, like when there was 1 score left on the enemy team, after killing them the game didn’t end, they’d just respawn across the map and I’d have to kill them AGAIN (also on Rhen Var, Harbour tho not Citadel)
@aaylacruise Aye, it's interesting as I think some of these issues are cross-platform while others might be limited to consoles. I'm not an online gamer, so I can't tell what those would be, but yeah, there are definitely more complex issues going on that they don't care to fix. Not ready on release gaming culture has led to them missing out on what should have been an easy money maker. How can a game that released fine in 2005 be this hard to mess up?
Apparently that Rhen Var Citadel command post bug is present even on the original BF2 DLC. Still, that's something that should've been fixed for this release!
It's insane Aspyr did a good remaster for the recent Bounty Hunter release, BUT basically abandoned SWBF2. It could've been money especially if they actually did a REMASTER and adapted modding support to be more streamlined, like what Bethesda did with integrating the Nexus community for their store in Fallout 4. Excellent overview as well, hope your channel continues to grow as you making comparisons was like a more meticulous Flandrew lol.
Thanks, also I love the comparison to Flandrew 😁 But before you go calling bounty hunter a “good remaster” look up the “Destroy All Humans 2” remaster then come tell me whether you still think it’s still a “good remaster” 😅
Not gonna lie, would really love to see the update which disables the pernament weapon unlocks. These unlocks would fit Battlefront 1 perfectly (ofc if it had any of them) which has a much more harsh difficulty than BF2. In the second game the pernament unlocks trivialize the already easy gameplay. I know I could just simply not use them or start a new profile to reset the progress but I don't have an enough strong will to do so Also speaking of the bots, they need to fix the enemy engineers that drop health-kits to the non-friendly units. It makes me heart-broken to see the battle droid volunteerly giving me bacta just to see it gets obliterated by the point blank shotgun blast moments later by my teammate.
The OG version of BF2 used to start you with the non upgraded version even once you’d permanently unlocked it (until you switched weapons) which was at least something… the new version forces it on you from the start… which really sucks for the Beam Rifle as it’s definitively worse than the regular one, especially since Aspyr gave the regular sniper like 2x as much ammo per clip as in the original
Hello there! Love seeing small youtubers get their voice out. These issues really are mind boggling. It makes me wonder if Aspyr is simply an AI program that is meant to automatically "transpose" to newer consoles. Being an owner of the original 2 battlefronts i havent had a need to get the classic collection but wanted to keep tabs on it. So, subscribed. MTFBWY
Hey! Awesome video! As someone who is pretty familiar with swbf2 classic multiplayer and just wanted add some more to list of problems at least from my side. The multiplayer isn’t completely dead on the switch as I can find at least one small server on the weekends in the US. Now I usually play on pc but I wanted to pick up swbf2 on the switch for a more on the go experience and well my experience is more mixed. So here’s a list of problems I’ve encountered so far. (at least on the switch on swbf2.) Hit detection is still bad. But to be fair the original swbf2 always had awful hit detection. I’m pretty used to it being already familiar with the mp. Still dumb that they didn’t even bother trying fix the awful 20 year old hit detection though. Lag and delays, pretty self explanatory. Dets give a false explosion which can definitely throw off newer players. Secondary attacks such as grenades or mines will not be registered, so you have to kinda spam it. Again these issues were already in the original swbf2 and I’m already used to it but again these issues weren’t even addressed in a 35$ game lol. Mines and det damage. If you don’t know what I’m talking about basically the servers on swbfcc are just using the standard friendly fire. Which means you can just spam det packs and mines without taking any damage on your side which in turns makes for awful balancing and spawn killings issues. In mp games the game has crashed at random times. Rejoining a mp game will make all sounds go silent. The sniper for whatever reason feels off? Hit detection feels off on the sniper and this is coming from someone who mains the sniper. (Although that might be because I’m not used to a controller.) The visual sometimes flicker. The biggest issue right now that’s ruining the servers is the option boot people of the server. Anyone in the game can just vote to boot anyone off and some people will just agree to vote. It’s really frustrating because there will be one guy that’ll just sit there and spam the vote to boot on anyone (kinda sad honestly because even after an hour they’ll still be spamming the boot option) or some random person got salty you killed them and tries to boot you. The boot option should have some sort of cool down. The game itself still feels broken. I preordered the game on pc when it was announced and was very excited to finally be in a multiplayer lobby with more than 20 people. But at last it was a disaster. The servers have improved since then but still host a lot of issues. If people really wanted to get into the multiplayer I’d say just get the original on steam, there’s a couple of servers on there with quite a few players! Not 64 players amount but you can still have some fun with it. Although just be a bit careful on the multiplayer aspect, it can get toxic and has a deep learning curve. But once you master the meta of the game it actually becomes really fun! But if you don’t have access to a pc then the switch is probably your best bet for any multiplayer but just be aware of the issues plaguing it. I really don’t know why aspyr just didn’t make an open beta for the multiplayer for testing purposes. It really would’ve showed them the issues of it all. Heck even the old swbf2 had a public multiplayer beta back then. But I guess company’s today just like rushing out slop or something. Great video!!
Aspyr should take note of the way Nightdive studios handled the Dark Forces Remaster, that game was given the love and time it needed and it shows in it's release state. It's easy to see now why Aspyr had the Knight of the Old Republic remake taken away from them.
@@PrinceFloof Take it from someone who has spent the last month making custom Dark Forces missions, to quote Doctor Victor: "You have no idea how wrong you are." Not only did Nightdive have to essentially remake the Dark Forces levels FROM SCRATCH, but they did it in ways that made it compatible with the original game, at least on PC, meaning that any custom level made for the original game works on the Remaster. Nightdive went out of their way to ensure 30-ish years worth of fan made content didn't go to waste. And considering how some of those levels are more complex than ANYTHING in the vanilla game, I'd say Nightdive did a perfect job remastering Dark Forces, not because it was easy, but because they went out of their way to also support the modding community.
This release was a crime, especially for those who loved the originals as kids. Also, great video! I like your comedy style, the floating medical droid gag with family guy had me literally laugh out loud. I did notice a few issues with audio like at one point you are way quieter than the rest of the tracks, and your dialogue being cut too short. Other than that, It's good that someone is still covering this game because it's already pretty much been forgotten about. You're super close to 1k subs, keep up the great work. Get that monetization. I'm a little over 1k subs myself and have a lot to say about EA's Battlefront II if you are ever interested in collabing on something star wars.
Thank you for addressing all these problems, I'm a huge fan of Galactic conquest and have spend so many hours playing it, I still play despite the issues, the bots are terrible! And no galactic conquest coop or Vs online? 😭😭😭 Why must they insist on masscuring such a simple task, I really hope they fix these issues so freaking bad!!!
The "beep beep beep" sound, in the first battlefront game, when you're loading into the maps, is also still broken. Honestly, this collection deserved alot more love than it got. Truly begs the question, are the people at Aspyr really Star Wars fans at all?
I was so excited when i saw battlefront was getting remastered so as every one else i was sad and disappointed when it was a buging mess and a cash grab
That's unfortunate. I was hoping to maybe pick it up some day as some of the changes (Xbox exclusive DLC, AI heroes, more Hero Vs. Villain maps) seem cool, but in that state I just can't justify picking it up. Oh well / :
Well if you wanna play as Han Solo, definitely don’t pick it up now, after I made this video I discovered that the whole game crashes if you try to play as Han in HvV
I only play this on switch and not sure it exists on other platforms, one bug I noticed that’s game breaking but no one talks about it is in BF2, if you enter a vehicle and change seats, the change seat option no longer works and isn’t possible to map that option to the turret controls. So if your flying in space and change to the gunner seat, you are stuck there until you respawn.
Glad I've still got the original version I can play on X-box 360. Glad I've kept it all these years after seeing what the classic collection looks like. Thanks for posting the video 👍
One thing im glad they added in II was Instant Action heroes spawning. Now your side or the enemy can spawn as a hero in conquest mode. Back in the day this feature was only on the Xbox and PSP versions.
@@jacobsendejo8788 no… no it wasn’t. All they did was make the ai on YOUR team play as a hero if you didn’t wanna play as the hero yourself… Which it used to anyway if you played split screen
It honestly disappoints me to see a company fail at printing free money, I still don't understand why they keep hiring Aspyr for crappy remasters. And the lack of mod support on the PC is even worse also why is it over 70GB?
My best friend and I used to 1v1 on the 2005 bf on Xbox when we were drunk. Some of the best nights of my life. The rerelease was supposed to make that happen again. We were so hyped because of new mp servers on Xbox, only for it to be basically unplayable, even on split screen. It’s so disappointing.
This is exactly why i never expect anything from disney especially "remasters" like for Republic Commando or Jedi Academy. They will try cancel old games from stores just to sell us again a "remastered" games with more broken gameplay and 80 gb of just useless pixel assets. which again leads us into BUYING MORE memory cards. Actually there is no reason to constanly buy new games when there a lot of 2000s games which could easily be played on emulators, or play in modded version of games which i do
The Mos Eisley Cantina's lighting is completely broken on the Classic Collection version of BF2. Besides being way too bright inside, it inexplicably doesn't even cast an exterior shadow anymore. Also, even Battlefront 1 isn't safe from busted lighting. Spawn in as the CIS on Kamino, and jump onto the outer edge of the spawn platform. On the original PC version, there's a cool light reflection effect that will illuminate the raised edge surrounding the platform, which is lacking in the Classic Collection. Also, the reflections on the floor of the Cloning Facility don't work anymore, greatly affecting immersion.
I would have been better Aspyr pulled Halo CE Anniversary and replaced all of the models with the 2017 versions of themselves. In that way, the character models look good while the environments look like shit.
@@Spartan_803 Aspyr don’t have the licence to use the ones DICE / EA made in the 2017 Battlefront 2. But tbh for a £30 price tag, they should definitely have remade them themselves
to be honest i think aspyr has some dirt on major publishers or something. this company has been around since the early 2000s if not longer. and they never released a functioning product. gotta love the force unleashed pc ports with 30fps lock and weird physics, or the tony hawk games with weird physics and no proper controller support, or the guitar hero pc ports with forced vsync....which causes input lag...in a guitar hero game BRILLIANT seriously, talented studios like tango gameworks or visceral games or pandemic get shit canned, meanwhile this company only makes the worst ports known to man, and somehow survives
That’s an interesting theory… The sad reality is that Disney take a like a 34% cut of any project that dares license the Star Wars IP from them. Aspyr are the only ones cheap enough to attempt to make a profit since they’d only get a 66% cut of the revenue from something they have to put in 100% of costs into…
Battlefront collection is obviously fucked up. There is only one old Star Wars game which still getting love from their original devs - Empire at War. 18 years passed but it sitll supported by Petroglyph and getting updates like adding more tools for modding, making code fully x64 compatible, fixing some old bug and etc. Not to mention that multiplayer still working.
Can confirm that it's still broken on PC as well. lol I thought I was the only one taking issue with the planet textures. They are STILL broken in space battles too. Like the planetscapes? I didn't see you talk about this, so maybe it's not broken on Xbox. Space battle planetscapes on PC have actual holes in them. Textures straight up missing.
The missing textures was always a PC only thing I think… I did notice one of the other graphical issues in space battles that is on console, you can see in the vid for a sec at 6:02 is the rapid flashing explosions 💥 in the background that now flash 100 times per second
@@aaylacruise Yes!! That's still an issue too!! Like I'm glad that Aspyr fixed some of the major bugs, but like it's still a garbage release. These "little" graphic errors and such add up!
Modern Star Wars is doomed. Countless fans including myself who never got to experience the online multiplayer back in the day were ecstatic. I dreamed and thought about how it would have been for almost my whole life and to be given this buggy mess was really sad and disappointing. This was there one chance and they blew it…
6:43 THIS issue I am familiar with, when you make a new level or mod an existing one there are these things soft colliders which you put around props and other elements, it will allow bots to always find a way around the obstacle (unless you do some tricks), otherwise bots will always run straight to whatever objective there is no matter what's in the way, whatever they did when porting it probably broke those colliders, if not many other level triggers like jumps, sniping and patrol nodes.
I have never been more glad that I waited to purchase a game than with the BF Classic Collection. I saw the trailer, got insanely hyped, then remembered how much of a mistake it was to pre order EA Battlefront 2015, and wisely held off for reviews to come out. It's so sad how this remaster turned out. I have the PS2 versions of the original games, so I never got to play the X-Box exclusive DLC, and I was super excited to finally get to play that stuff on PlayStation. How do you manage to make a PS2 game play worse than it did before, on modern consoles? Even worse, how have they still not fixed the issues 6 months later? I've been playing the Republic Commando remaster on PS4 recently, which Aspyer also did, and that seems to work absolutely fine. What the hell happened between when they did that game and the BF Classic Collection?
One thing I’m kinda surprised about is that both original games are still available on steam. Usually when a remaster or definitive edition comes out, the old one is taken of the store.
Lol the classic collection is such a joke. Especially since I myself am a modder for the original Battlefront 2, I've made 183 mods since I was 14 (18 rn), AND I made a mod that recovers the cancelled Space Kamino campaign mission that was scrapped in the final release, and the classic collection couldn't even do that. I've even made co-op compatible campaign mods. Also some modders made a livestream extracting files from the classic collection and not only all textures were ai upscaled, they were batch upscaled. We found a 4x4 texture that's just the colour white that got upscaled to 16x16. Laziest developers
@@SwagSwagSenate Cool about the mod thing. Lame that Aspyr put everything through the upscaler, but it’s kinda obvious based on the rest of the game… Can you explain to me why all the so called “graphics” mods for the old BF games just replace the textures with oversaturated cartoon looking ones instead of just replacing it with a higher poly model??
@@aaylacruise idk, i guess porting just doesn't look to well in bf2. Tho I've ported models from other games and they looked really good ingame so idk 🤷♀
After this Aspyr has made it so I'm never buying anything from their company in the future, I gave them a chance, bought and installed on launch, no American servers when there were THOUSANDS of others like me who wanted to game and relive our childhoods a bit.
For me battlefront 1 worked perfectly even the online multiplayer and im on a series x too. But battlefront 2 is unbelievably janky and because of the weird drift it’s basically unplayable if you don’t have a brand new controller. But great video keep it up or you’ll end up like the battlefront remaster 😳
I bought a PC version of BF2 back in 2011 and I install it on every new Laptop I get because from what i hear and you say here, it still runs MUCH better than the "remastered"...
Some things I want to point out: -The AI in Battlefront 2 was always pretty bad, and it stems from the original game's rushed development at the time. Not exactly a new issue to begin with in the Classic Collection -Are you sure the sluggish controls isn't due to the type of fighter or transport you're using, the footage you showed was the LA-AT Gunship, which is a shuttle type, all ships of this type move pretty sluggishly especially when turning. Just worth mentioning really. Other than that, the game seems to be worse in all other aspects, ridiculously large file size comparable to Elden Ring, with somehow worse visuals, missing or broken features. It is still quite baffling that somehow even they can screw that up. Knowing Aspyr's track record, it's not exactly surprising though. I don't expect them to continue rolling out anymore fixes, in fact it was quite a surprise for them to do it at all since they have been known to make promises to fix games that they port and never following through with them, it is unlikely that they'll fix the more glaring aspects of the classic collection, not that it would bring the playerbase back.
This was nothing but a mere crash grab and used for nostalgia bait. This will never be fixed.
Devs literally started pleading for crowdfunding for collector's edition crap for Tomb Raider the moment they dropped this collection.
Unfortunate reality is that they could have made so much more money if at release it was not buggy, and was not 40 dollars at launch, promised new features like mod support for consoles, and most of all if they gave any sort of care. But when every company follows the modern gaming dev cycle, it backfires
Mod support for consoles would have turned this game into one of the greatest console games ever made. Unrivaled, unparalleled, one of the greatest gaming experiences in history. And shit the bed, shrugged and said "Oops" and left the mess for others to clean up.
Words cannot describe how fucking pissed I am about this. I don’t know what’s worse - the fact that Asspyre thinks they can get away with fucking up such an obviously easy job, or the fact that there were so many dumbasses willing to run defense for this. It’s like cattle running to defend a slaughterhouse
OMG literally… the Aspyr shills are freakin mental.
I think they’re just in denial about the $40 they wasted on a broken game 😜
Reminds me of this: ruclips.net/video/1XIcS63jA3w/видео.htmlsi=1nzDYKvjydfse8Zl
There were people that defended this? Everyone I've seen understandably hated it, were you on Twitter?
The more I hear how broken this port is, the happier I am that I still have my old physical copy. What's so hard about giving today's gamers the original experience? How can they mess this up so bad?
@@dtdimeflicks6708 you’ve gotta assume it’s intentional at this point?!
Surely…
I didn't even know this was a thing. Why remake. For consoles, okay. But I've got the PC versions, on GoG, and they work just fine.
Exactly.
"We got to have.. money!"
I think Aspyr shouldn't be the sole "devs" re-releasing old Star Wars content they couldn't do Star Wars Knights of the old Republic and Sith Lords, Republic Commandos etc for the Nintendo Switch without post launch issues. Battlefront Collection is just another example of Aspyr being a bad "development company". I'm not saying that Aspyr shouldn't make re-releases I'm saying that they shouldn't be the only company re-releasing game.
Well I am. They're ridiculously incompetent and almost certainly outsource huge amounts of their work to Indians.
id have to disagree with that last part lol, personally i wouldnt mind if they got shut down. wah wah "peoples jobs" "they worked hard" those mfs dont work at all, they let an a.i fuck up a beloved game and called it a day. no one cared about this, no one at asypr put in any effort to make the game better, they shipped out a scam and are completely okay with just running away with the money. fuck asypr
Idk, given that they take working titles and turn them into broken messes, I think it’s fair to say they shouldn’t be making these remasters.
Yeah but the people making the decisions are business majors so we get whoever was cheapest
Lack of competition being bad for consumers-? I mean who knew
Dice: had the blueprint, failed to build it
Aspyr: had the dna, failed to clone it
Might as well buy the original 2 battlefront games for Xbox series x since it’s backwards compatible.
This was supposed to be a slam dunk. What the hell Asspyr?
I don't know, i booted this up and the game crashed 5 minutes later. Was a pretty fun time 10/10 remaster.
@@ronin_the_gamer 😂😂
This game is just disappointing and the mishandling of such gem makes me sad, I was excited to play online on console.
Ended up installing the remaster proyect as I own a Pc nowadays.
So, 6 months and 3 updates later, and this remastered port is still a hot mess? Forget it man I’ll just go to my local retro game store and look for the psp version.
@@JcgLounge the psp version controls Easier anyway 😂😂
What a damn shame. How they messed up two legendary games
When this released, I had some dumbass telling me to "wait it out cause it'll get better and the game just came out" when I mentioned getting a refund for this game when it came out. No. I paid to have a good game now, not possibly having something playable in the future. This shit is exactly why I got that refund. You can't trust a game to "get better" when it's busted at launch. That should never be the expectation. The ones who are fine with that are fools who deserve to be out of their $60. Games should be working and complete at launch, or I say to hell with them and never look back. I have no time for that, and I have better things to spend my money on if they don't want to provide a good product. Simple as that. Yet again, I was, unfortunately, but expectedly correct in my assumption of how this game was going to be handled... I guess I'll just keep playing the original versions on the original Xbox. Sorry, I'm bitter about this. Not just with the game, itself, but the gaming industry and the consumers, because it highlights just how much lack of respect idiots are willing to take from the ones selling them the products.
Unfortunately asspyr is not Hello Games. They won't come back to fix the issues. They took the money and ran. I sincerely hope they go out of business and all of them have to work as burger flippers at MC Donalds.
On PS5 and the music is all gone
I played a few months ago and I didn't have to, I expected to play it some time later and it's still the same...
Im still butt hurt about the classic collection. They took a perfectly functional game, broke it, and slapped a $35 price tag on it. I don't really understand game development or how computers work. But if you have a system 600 times more powerful than the original system, can't you have everything in the game be there and not have any pop in or low texture at long range issues. Fix the ai so they have better pathing. I didn't even try to play the classic collection with my friends. None of them wanted it, so i didn't even know about that viechle glitch. And why do developers always use the shitty pc ports for future remasters? It was the same thing for MCC, they used the crappy gearbox version of halo 1 and 2. They should of used the Xbox version it was the best console at the time running battlefront. For now on if i ever want to play Battlefront ill just play via backwards compatibility on my series X. Thats what i originally thought the classic collection was going to be like. Boy was i wrong
Those of us on the ps2 were so happy for this. There was so much hype behind this collection for it to die within the same month. Shit is crazy. We’re still trying to do tournaments on ps5
I have completely given up on the Battlefront Collection a while ago. When it was first announced I bought it for two specific reasons, the XL mode and multiplayer. Even with the patches the Multiplayer is still an absolute mess with real bad rubber banding, hit detection, and I was still having spawning issues the last time I played it. If anyone has never played this game I just recommend the original versions of the game for a fraction of the cost. Personally I find it a damn shame that Aspyr couldn’t make a genuine remaster of what is honestly one of my favorite games of all time.
This is a great video, straight to the point(s) and very insightful.
I am excited to see the content you produce in the future! :)
As a console player, this was one of the first games I’ve bought in years without hesitation and expectation that it would be trash. The nostalgia got to me and I wanted to play on classic maps with players again. I completely wasted my money with this garbage and it was a sobering moment that I realized I need to be skeptical of every single game that releases. Thanks for this video, it really doesn’t make me want to reinstall the game anytime soon.
Exactly the same for me. I buy new games very rarely but I thought that surely they can't mess up a copy & paste job to a more powerful console?
In the same boat as you I feel so cheated
You deserve it. It's your duty to inform yourself and learn from historical precedent. You're a fool.
Oh, because it's YOUR GAME, your SPECIAL childhood game it couldn't happen that you'd be betrayed right?
Grow up.
I called it before it launched, the classic Collection doesn't hold a candle to the modding community of this game.
I was playing an instant action match recently on PS5, Rhen Var Citadel. Despite clearly having at least 2 command posts left to capture it randomly triggered a "victory in 20s" for no reason. Just an example of another random bug I found (although that arguably works in your favour).
It also crashes the game entirely when I try to play as Han Solo on Endor. Oddly, that's also an issue with PC mod versions too.
Yeah, I noticed something similar to that problem too, like when there was 1 score left on the enemy team, after killing them the game didn’t end, they’d just respawn across the map and I’d have to kill them AGAIN (also on Rhen Var, Harbour tho not Citadel)
@aaylacruise Aye, it's interesting as I think some of these issues are cross-platform while others might be limited to consoles. I'm not an online gamer, so I can't tell what those would be, but yeah, there are definitely more complex issues going on that they don't care to fix.
Not ready on release gaming culture has led to them missing out on what should have been an easy money maker.
How can a game that released fine in 2005 be this hard to mess up?
Apparently that Rhen Var Citadel command post bug is present even on the original BF2 DLC. Still, that's something that should've been fixed for this release!
Very nice quality from such a small channel!
It's insane Aspyr did a good remaster for the recent Bounty Hunter release, BUT basically abandoned SWBF2. It could've been money especially if they actually did a REMASTER and adapted modding support to be more streamlined, like what Bethesda did with integrating the Nexus community for their store in Fallout 4. Excellent overview as well, hope your channel continues to grow as you making comparisons was like a more meticulous Flandrew lol.
Thanks, also I love the comparison to Flandrew 😁
But before you go calling bounty hunter a “good remaster” look up the “Destroy All Humans 2” remaster then come tell me whether you still think it’s still a “good remaster” 😅
@@aaylacruise Bounty Hunter is a Remaster while Destroy All Humans! 2 - Reprobed is a remake, It's not comparable.
@@drsamquantum no, ratchet and clank ps4 was a remake… destroy all humans 2 is a remaster… Aspyr broken re-releases are just that…
@@aaylacruiseIsn't the biggest issue for bounty hunter the broken ai? I'm not familiar with any other problems it has
Not gonna lie, would really love to see the update which disables the pernament weapon unlocks. These unlocks would fit Battlefront 1 perfectly (ofc if it had any of them) which has a much more harsh difficulty than BF2. In the second game the pernament unlocks trivialize the already easy gameplay. I know I could just simply not use them or start a new profile to reset the progress but I don't have an enough strong will to do so
Also speaking of the bots, they need to fix the enemy engineers that drop health-kits to the non-friendly units. It makes me heart-broken to see the battle droid volunteerly giving me bacta just to see it gets obliterated by the point blank shotgun blast moments later by my teammate.
The OG version of BF2 used to start you with the non upgraded version even once you’d permanently unlocked it (until you switched weapons) which was at least something… the new version forces it on you from the start… which really sucks for the Beam Rifle as it’s definitively worse than the regular one, especially since Aspyr gave the regular sniper like 2x as much ammo per clip as in the original
You can turn those off at the soldier selection screen.
Hello there! Love seeing small youtubers get their voice out. These issues really are mind boggling. It makes me wonder if Aspyr is simply an AI program that is meant to automatically "transpose" to newer consoles.
Being an owner of the original 2 battlefronts i havent had a need to get the classic collection but wanted to keep tabs on it. So, subscribed. MTFBWY
It’s criminal that they haven’t fixed all of the issues, it’s worse than I thought it was.
It is. They sold a product that didn't work. But we get to live in a society completely dominated by mouthbreathing business majors
Hey! Awesome video! As someone who is pretty familiar with swbf2 classic multiplayer and just wanted add some more to list of problems at least from my side. The multiplayer isn’t completely dead on the switch as I can find at least one small server on the weekends in the US. Now I usually play on pc but I wanted to pick up swbf2 on the switch for a more on the go experience and well my experience is more mixed. So here’s a list of problems I’ve encountered so far. (at least on the switch on swbf2.)
Hit detection is still bad. But to be fair the original swbf2 always had awful hit detection. I’m pretty used to it being already familiar with the mp. Still dumb that they didn’t even bother trying fix the awful 20 year old hit detection though.
Lag and delays, pretty self explanatory. Dets give a false explosion which can definitely throw off newer players. Secondary attacks such as grenades or mines will not be registered, so you have to kinda spam it. Again these issues were already in the original swbf2 and I’m already used to it but again these issues weren’t even addressed in a 35$ game lol.
Mines and det damage. If you don’t know what I’m talking about basically the servers on swbfcc are just using the standard friendly fire. Which means you can just spam det packs and mines without taking any damage on your side which in turns makes for awful balancing and spawn killings issues.
In mp games the game has crashed at random times.
Rejoining a mp game will make all sounds go silent.
The sniper for whatever reason feels off? Hit detection feels off on the sniper and this is coming from someone who mains the sniper. (Although that might be because I’m not used to a controller.)
The visual sometimes flicker.
The biggest issue right now that’s ruining the servers is the option boot people of the server. Anyone in the game can just vote to boot anyone off and some people will just agree to vote. It’s really frustrating because there will be one guy that’ll just sit there and spam the vote to boot on anyone (kinda sad honestly because even after an hour they’ll still be spamming the boot option) or some random person got salty you killed them and tries to boot you. The boot option should have some sort of cool down.
The game itself still feels broken. I preordered the game on pc when it was announced and was very excited to finally be in a multiplayer lobby with more than 20 people. But at last it was a disaster. The servers have improved since then but still host a lot of issues. If people really wanted to get into the multiplayer I’d say just get the original on steam, there’s a couple of servers on there with quite a few players! Not 64 players amount but you can still have some fun with it. Although just be a bit careful on the multiplayer aspect, it can get toxic and has a deep learning curve. But once you master the meta of the game it actually becomes really fun! But if you don’t have access to a pc then the switch is probably your best bet for any multiplayer but just be aware of the issues plaguing it. I really don’t know why aspyr just didn’t make an open beta for the multiplayer for testing purposes. It really would’ve showed them the issues of it all. Heck even the old swbf2 had a public multiplayer beta back then. But I guess company’s today just like rushing out slop or something. Great video!!
That was a very good, well researched video. Thanks a ton for the update Aayla ⭐️
Aspyr should take note of the way Nightdive studios handled the Dark Forces Remaster, that game was given the love and time it needed and it shows in it's release state. It's easy to see now why Aspyr had the Knight of the Old Republic remake taken away from them.
The Dark Forces remaster was also made to support all 35 years worth of modded content. Currently working on my own campaign for the remaster.
To be fair, that is the most easiest game to remaster, not nearly as much to work with as this game
Still tho, no excuse, absolutely should have taken their time but it's just a cash grab
@@PrinceFloof Take it from someone who has spent the last month making custom Dark Forces missions, to quote Doctor Victor: "You have no idea how wrong you are."
Not only did Nightdive have to essentially remake the Dark Forces levels FROM SCRATCH, but they did it in ways that made it compatible with the original game, at least on PC, meaning that any custom level made for the original game works on the Remaster.
Nightdive went out of their way to ensure 30-ish years worth of fan made content didn't go to waste. And considering how some of those levels are more complex than ANYTHING in the vanilla game, I'd say Nightdive did a perfect job remastering Dark Forces, not because it was easy, but because they went out of their way to also support the modding community.
This release was a crime, especially for those who loved the originals as kids. Also, great video! I like your comedy style, the floating medical droid gag with family guy had me literally laugh out loud. I did notice a few issues with audio like at one point you are way quieter than the rest of the tracks, and your dialogue being cut too short. Other than that, It's good that someone is still covering this game because it's already pretty much been forgotten about.
You're super close to 1k subs, keep up the great work. Get that monetization. I'm a little over 1k subs myself and have a lot to say about EA's Battlefront II if you are ever interested in collabing on something star wars.
Thank you for addressing all these problems, I'm a huge fan of Galactic conquest and have spend so many hours playing it, I still play despite the issues, the bots are terrible! And no galactic conquest coop or Vs online? 😭😭😭 Why must they insist on masscuring such a simple task, I really hope they fix these issues so freaking bad!!!
The "beep beep beep" sound, in the first battlefront game, when you're loading into the maps, is also still broken.
Honestly, this collection deserved alot more love than it got.
Truly begs the question, are the people at Aspyr really Star Wars fans at all?
I was so excited when i saw battlefront was getting remastered so as every one else i was sad and disappointed when it was a buging mess and a cash grab
great video on the state of this game, cant wait to see more videos from you on the current star wars games
Still breaks my heart
Genuinely baffling how people can still defend Aspyr for their AI slop cash grabs, thank you for shedding light on this broken mess
It’s a shame But sound too good to be true. Pandemic Studios Star Wars battlefront 1 and 2 are still better than using Ai, etc to make it better.
I absolutely love the Battlefront 2 2005 game i grew up with it and still replay it to this day
Best way to sleep, while understanding
Thanks for the video, now I won't get it, even if it's on sale for switch atm. It's a shame, the originals are such legends.
One of the audio bugs that has been driving me crazy is in the campaign of battlefront 2 the objective competition noise isn’t correct
love the wolfyplayz reference
THE MONKEY
That's unfortunate. I was hoping to maybe pick it up some day as some of the changes (Xbox exclusive DLC, AI heroes, more Hero Vs. Villain maps) seem cool, but in that state I just can't justify picking it up. Oh well / :
Well if you wanna play as Han Solo, definitely don’t pick it up now, after I made this video I discovered that the whole game crashes if you try to play as Han in HvV
If you have an Xbox, you can buy the 2005 version and it’ll come with the DLCs already along with extra stages for the Heroes vs Villains modes.
4:06 thats the nail in the coffin rly
Daaaaam As a PC Player i didnt know how bad the game was on Consoles, the only problem i got was Weird textures, normal maps and bad conexion
Thank god I bought the OG Xbox ports before this “remaster” came out
Hello darkness my old friend
I only play this on switch and not sure it exists on other platforms, one bug I noticed that’s game breaking but no one talks about it is in BF2, if you enter a vehicle and change seats, the change seat option no longer works and isn’t possible to map that option to the turret controls. So if your flying in space and change to the gunner seat, you are stuck there until you respawn.
Glad I've still got the original version I can play on X-box 360. Glad I've kept it all these years after seeing what the classic collection looks like. Thanks for posting the video 👍
You can pop those original discs in an Xbox One & even play the original versions in 4k on the One X & Series X
@@aaylacruise That's cool
One thing im glad they added in II was Instant Action heroes spawning. Now your side or the enemy can spawn as a hero in conquest mode. Back in the day this feature was only on the Xbox and PSP versions.
@@jacobsendejo8788 no… no it wasn’t. All they did was make the ai on YOUR team play as a hero if you didn’t wanna play as the hero yourself…
Which it used to anyway if you played split screen
You mentioned the PSP versions! This makes me happy.
It was a scam and the developers should have their heads shaved and forced to eat stinky cheese.
It honestly disappoints me to see a company fail at printing free money, I still don't understand why they keep hiring Aspyr for crappy remasters. And the lack of mod support on the PC is even worse also why is it over 70GB?
My best friend and I used to 1v1 on the 2005 bf on Xbox when we were drunk. Some of the best nights of my life. The rerelease was supposed to make that happen again. We were so hyped because of new mp servers on Xbox, only for it to be basically unplayable, even on split screen. It’s so disappointing.
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On both 2 and 1 hoth would look like a hacker screen but red instead of green
Thanks for your video. I thought, that they have been started troubleshooting. There are hundreds of bugs still exist in this remaster.
At least i got the og versions for free long ago when they did free games with gold on xbox
It took a week for the multiplayer to die off and sad that it never bounced back
This should’ve been an easy slam dunk for Star Wars but this is sad.
How can you fuck up a game that already exists?
how do you mess up games from 2005 man
This is exactly why i never expect anything from disney especially "remasters" like for Republic Commando or Jedi Academy. They will try cancel old games from stores just to sell us again a "remastered" games with more broken gameplay and 80 gb of just useless pixel assets. which again leads us into BUYING MORE memory cards. Actually there is no reason to constanly buy new games when there a lot of 2000s games which could easily be played on emulators, or play in modded version of games which i do
The Mos Eisley Cantina's lighting is completely broken on the Classic Collection version of BF2. Besides being way too bright inside, it inexplicably doesn't even cast an exterior shadow anymore.
Also, even Battlefront 1 isn't safe from busted lighting. Spawn in as the CIS on Kamino, and jump onto the outer edge of the spawn platform. On the original PC version, there's a cool light reflection effect that will illuminate the raised edge surrounding the platform, which is lacking in the Classic Collection. Also, the reflections on the floor of the Cloning Facility don't work anymore, greatly affecting immersion.
It’s such a shame they broke even the most basic fundamental things… 🥺
i could almost look past everything else for the added 60 fps if only the controller aiming wasn't so horrible. such a waste
Crazy how this company still is afloat
I would have been better Aspyr pulled Halo CE Anniversary and replaced all of the models with the 2017 versions of themselves. In that way, the character models look good while the environments look like shit.
@@Spartan_803 Aspyr don’t have the licence to use the ones DICE / EA made in the 2017 Battlefront 2.
But tbh for a £30 price tag, they should definitely have remade them themselves
What have they done to the goats? My god
to be honest i think aspyr has some dirt on major publishers or something. this company has been around since the early 2000s if not longer. and they never released a functioning product. gotta love the force unleashed pc ports with 30fps lock and weird physics, or the tony hawk games with weird physics and no proper controller support, or the guitar hero pc ports with forced vsync....which causes input lag...in a guitar hero game
BRILLIANT
seriously, talented studios like tango gameworks or visceral games or pandemic get shit canned, meanwhile this company only makes the worst ports known to man, and somehow survives
That’s an interesting theory…
The sad reality is that Disney take a like a 34% cut of any project that dares license the Star Wars IP from them.
Aspyr are the only ones cheap enough to attempt to make a profit since they’d only get a 66% cut of the revenue from something they have to put in 100% of costs into…
Why did it have to be one of the most beloved games of all time? Why??
Most Beloved = Most Potential Scam Victims 😞
Great video
That’s a horrible list of bugs, every bug is awful
Don't know whether to laugh or cry
Battlefront collection is obviously fucked up.
There is only one old Star Wars game which still getting love from their original devs - Empire at War. 18 years passed but it sitll supported by Petroglyph and getting updates like adding more tools for modding, making code fully x64 compatible, fixing some old bug and etc. Not to mention that multiplayer still working.
That’s so cool
Can confirm that it's still broken on PC as well. lol I thought I was the only one taking issue with the planet textures. They are STILL broken in space battles too. Like the planetscapes? I didn't see you talk about this, so maybe it's not broken on Xbox. Space battle planetscapes on PC have actual holes in them. Textures straight up missing.
The missing textures was always a PC only thing I think… I did notice one of the other graphical issues in space battles that is on console, you can see in the vid for a sec at 6:02 is the rapid flashing explosions 💥 in the background that now flash 100 times per second
@@aaylacruise Yes!! That's still an issue too!! Like I'm glad that Aspyr fixed some of the major bugs, but like it's still a garbage release. These "little" graphic errors and such add up!
Nice video. I was edging my steam wallet because I was on the verge of buying the remaster version. Now I certainly wont get it.
Modern Star Wars is doomed. Countless fans including myself who never got to experience the online multiplayer back in the day were ecstatic. I dreamed and thought about how it would have been for almost my whole life and to be given this buggy mess was really sad and disappointing. This was there one chance and they blew it…
The Classic Collection seems to work fine in singleplayer, but multiplayer is still pretty glitchy. At least for me.
Edit: I’m on PS5 by the way.
6:43 THIS issue I am familiar with, when you make a new level or mod an existing one there are these things soft colliders which you put around props and other elements, it will allow bots to always find a way around the obstacle (unless you do some tricks), otherwise bots will always run straight to whatever objective there is no matter what's in the way, whatever they did when porting it probably broke those colliders, if not many other level triggers like jumps, sniping and patrol nodes.
I have never been more glad that I waited to purchase a game than with the BF Classic Collection. I saw the trailer, got insanely hyped, then remembered how much of a mistake it was to pre order EA Battlefront 2015, and wisely held off for reviews to come out.
It's so sad how this remaster turned out. I have the PS2 versions of the original games, so I never got to play the X-Box exclusive DLC, and I was super excited to finally get to play that stuff on PlayStation. How do you manage to make a PS2 game play worse than it did before, on modern consoles? Even worse, how have they still not fixed the issues 6 months later?
I've been playing the Republic Commando remaster on PS4 recently, which Aspyer also did, and that seems to work absolutely fine. What the hell happened between when they did that game and the BF Classic Collection?
Awesome job. I love the video. 👍🏻🙂
One thing I’m kinda surprised about is that both original games are still available on steam. Usually when a remaster or definitive edition comes out, the old one is taken of the store.
How do you mess up already finished games that came out 20 years ago
Fact, in Can t play solo my game blocked in black screen at the end of my game in Galactic conquest
This is so sad 😢😢
Hello there!
@@TheGreatHeisenberg general kenobi
@@aaylacruiseyou are a bold one!
Lol the classic collection is such a joke. Especially since I myself am a modder for the original Battlefront 2, I've made 183 mods since I was 14 (18 rn), AND I made a mod that recovers the cancelled Space Kamino campaign mission that was scrapped in the final release, and the classic collection couldn't even do that. I've even made co-op compatible campaign mods.
Also some modders made a livestream extracting files from the classic collection and not only all textures were ai upscaled, they were batch upscaled. We found a 4x4 texture that's just the colour white that got upscaled to 16x16. Laziest developers
@@SwagSwagSenate Cool about the mod thing.
Lame that Aspyr put everything through the upscaler, but it’s kinda obvious based on the rest of the game…
Can you explain to me why all the so called “graphics” mods for the old BF games just replace the textures with oversaturated cartoon looking ones instead of just replacing it with a higher poly model??
@@aaylacruise idk, i guess porting just doesn't look to well in bf2. Tho I've ported models from other games and they looked really good ingame so idk 🤷♀
my fuggin trophyies stop working when i pick Demo,tech classes
good video. keep it up!!
To be fair, Bounty Hunter's ai isn't broken, it's the same way it's been since the OG release.
I mean cheap remakes are popular but cmon 1 underpaid Brazilian intern with GIMP would do a better job than that "slap everything into an AI upscaler"
solid breakdown, I hope u get a better mic soon tho u deserve it!
Yeah I'll just stick with the backwards compatible version on xbox
I mean yeah, unless you really want some Battlefront achievements there’s no reason to get the classic collection.
A girl who talks about Battlefront is really refreshing 😊
Very new
I want to see more woman talk about SW in general. Not in the woke garbage way Disney does it but with passion and a desire for good stories.
@@Takemura77 🤣😂😮💨🤐
@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0those damn wokes *shakes fist at clouds*
@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 define "woke" my friend
I still got the normal ones of my Xbox one pre the collection
After this Aspyr has made it so I'm never buying anything from their company in the future, I gave them a chance, bought and installed on launch, no American servers when there were THOUSANDS of others like me who wanted to game and relive our childhoods a bit.
For me battlefront 1 worked perfectly even the online multiplayer and im on a series x too. But battlefront 2 is unbelievably janky and because of the weird drift it’s basically unplayable if you don’t have a brand new controller. But great video keep it up or you’ll end up like the battlefront remaster 😳
Shoulda just got my refund when I could.
I bought a PC version of BF2 back in 2011 and I install it on every new Laptop I get because from what i hear and you say here, it still runs MUCH better than the "remastered"...
Some things I want to point out:
-The AI in Battlefront 2 was always pretty bad, and it stems from the original game's rushed development at the time. Not exactly a new issue to begin with in the Classic Collection
-Are you sure the sluggish controls isn't due to the type of fighter or transport you're using, the footage you showed was the LA-AT Gunship, which is a shuttle type, all ships of this type move pretty sluggishly especially when turning. Just worth mentioning really.
Other than that, the game seems to be worse in all other aspects, ridiculously large file size comparable to Elden Ring, with somehow worse visuals, missing or broken features. It is still quite baffling that somehow even they can screw that up. Knowing Aspyr's track record, it's not exactly surprising though. I don't expect them to continue rolling out anymore fixes, in fact it was quite a surprise for them to do it at all since they have been known to make promises to fix games that they port and never following through with them, it is unlikely that they'll fix the more glaring aspects of the classic collection, not that it would bring the playerbase back.