Xmax is the best value and with the digital dash is the one to beat but the ergonomics don’t work for all. I wanted to love the Xmax but the Burgman 400 just sits a tad lower and has a bit more legroom to stretch out. Even though it’s outdated still a great scoot and will probably be my next one.
Xmax 300 is indeed a great scoot, not having the Forza 350 in the US means it really has little competition. The Burgman is heavier and much older tech. Over the pond the Forza is cheaper than both and you can also throw in the ADV 350 which is possibly better still. Scoots in EU outsell motorbikes every year, even the UK which seems to love them less.
@@slowridersmotovlog201- after watching hundreds of hours of videos about Americans and Canadians retiring to Southeast Asia - and hearing so many people, who are so different, talk about the differences between Western and Southeast Asian culture - I would conclude that the reason scooters are not more popular in the US is ego … our vehicles are part of what makes up our “social credibility.” If you own a big, powerful Harley, you’re a bad-a$$. If you own a tricked out sports car, you’re a bad-a$$. If you own a Ford F-150, you’re a redneck bad-a$$. If you have a top of the line Can-Am Spyder RT, you’re a rich bad-a$$. “You own a scooter? A SCOOTer. What are you, 12?” I know it’s ridiculous, but people - we men in particular - seem to have part of our identities wrapped up in what we drive. It’s why pickup drivers make fun of Prius owners … who are laughing all the way to the bank. 🤷🏻♂️
I just took possession of the 2024. I sent out emails to the state's dealerships and the next day was contacted to be told that a 2024 had just come in on the other side of the state. Told them I'd be down the next day as it was obvious these things weren't going to be readily available. $8,000 out the door. I don't even have my endorsement yet (just started the process) but knew I better snatch this up while the getting was good.
Great video -- thanks for it! What year is the XMax in this video? What do you think of this one with the analog dials compared to the all digital dash on the 2024 you reviewed in another video? Are there other differences besides the dash that having preferring one over the other? Asking, as I'm considering an earlier 2022 model vs the 2024. I'm leaning on the former since it's low mileage and the latter has nearly 1,000 in new vehicle dealer fees tacked on.
You can add the BMW C400 GT and the Kymco X-Town 300 & maybe the AK 550 (I dunno, the engine size kind of puts this one in a class of it's own) to the competition list. I'd still choose my XMax over all of them. Every ride this bike impresses me.
Is it reliable though? Will it last? Will it have problems like the Burgman 650? Is it more reliable than the X-town 300i? I'm tryin to decide between Xmax 300 and X-town 300i.
I could not find an Xmax when I settled for the Yamaha Smax. I paid $4k with it under 1k miles. 155cc easily does 65-70 mph. I love the Smax and so far I have put 10k miles on it in 2 years.
Thanks Dan... I agree with your assessment. The Xmax covers it for allot less. I really love your area. Your images are just so quaint and lovely. Never a disappointment. Gord
I have had 2 burgman 650 honda silverwing and yamaha tmax and now own a 2020 yamaha x Yamaha x max hands down best scooter 90miles an hour and twice the gas mpg of the others mention can't speak for vespa very expensive also not big about 12 inch wheels those are my thoughts
You've got another that feels the same way Yamaha Xmax 300 ...#1 all the way around ...speed, gas mileage, comfort, space, storage, smoothness, ride, maneuverability !!!!!
I just got a new 2024 Xmax this past Saturday. Have only been able to ride it about 30 miles since we just had Hurricane Debby (N FL). Enjoy your videos. Trying to find out why I didn’t get an emergency id card as outlined in the manual. Dealer knew nothing about it. (Deer in the headlights)
I would really like an X Max, I have a 2021 PCX 160, I have put 9,880 miles on it since I bought it new in early 2022. I have watched your videos on the X MAX is very impressive. I couldn’t think of going to a regular motorcycle. I can’t afford to not have the on board-storage. Keep the excellent videos coming. 👍
When I bought the PCX, there wasn’t an X MAX within 400 miles of where I live. Maybe in a couple years. I will retire in three years, that can be my retirement scoot!
I promise you that you won't finda better Maxi scooter that I paid $6299 out the door!!!! It can go 87 mph easily ....it has more storage than any Maxi scooter in its class ....it gets 75 mpg easy....it is as fast as any scooter in its class ....I can leave my friends Burgman 400....he can't catch me unless I let off the gas.....it has plenty of legroom and I'm 6'3" 210 lbs. XMAX was my choice I bought after I retired ....and I'm so glad I bought it AND YOU WILL ALSO !!!! YOU WILL BE GLAD YOU DID !!!!
The plan is to get an X MAX before I retire. That way I can just enjoy it. I’m gonna be 61 later this year, would like to retire in a couple years, I plan on this being my retirement gift to myself.
I just turned 70 and another thing it's lighter and more maneuverable than my friends Burgman 400 .....you will like the 2023 & 24 digital dash ...blue tooth and Garmin maps on the dash ....it's got so many features ....ABS front and back as well as traction control .....disc brakes front and rear !!!!
Just got a new sub I'm on the fence and I am waiting for the 2025 models to come out on both xmax and burgman but probably going to buy both I really want to see which one lasts longer.
You're lucky with those temps, we still haven't hit consistent 60's yet here. So when we do get a couple of days here and there that are sunny and in the 60's we're outside taking the time to clean up the yard before all kinds of plants and weeds start growing. I've been waiting for more nice sunny days so I can put the new battery in the scooter and start working on my vintage dirt bike to get that going for the summer. :)
@@slowridersmotovlog201 It will. It's just typical NY weather for us. We're just so tired of winter we want the warm sunny days back. We're just ahead of ourselves and have been starting on the yard work early. :)
@@slowridersmotovlog201 I looked into getting a 2006 Honda helix and Honda discontinued the parts . I am wondering when Suzuki will do the same being a Japanese Company.
You definitely can find the BMW 450gt in u.s. but it's over 10k$ probably like 12k$ out the door is really high, but the BMW does have lot options like heated seats and grips and bunch other stuff you likely wouldn't miss with the Bergman or xmax I'll definitely be looking forward to your 24 Xmax review!!
In case you don't know this ALL BMW 400 ARE TOTALLY MADE IN CHINA Parts all made in China and shipped to Chinese Loncin factory 🏭 to assemble They try to keep it quiet !!!! Cause they are made cheaper thus shareholders make more profit !!!! I think this is going to kill sales because they still ask the outrageous price even though they cost less to make in China 🇨🇳 They are screwing customers !!!!
@@josephgeorgeejr7039 BMW totally made 100% in Loncin factory in China Even my neighbors motor says China made !!!!! 100% truth ....no parts are made in Taiwan anymore 100%
I'm in Canada and received my '24 XMAX one week ago that I had ordered in late March. Canadian model only comes in Raven Black with blue wheels and is otherwise identical to the US model with the double instrumentation. I'm 5'-6 and the seat is too high for me and hard. In fact, it is higher than other bikes I had that had a similar stated seat height, including a Burgman 650. Fortunately, it is light and has the typical low center of gravity of a scooter. I put the windshield in the highest of 2 positions to reduce turbulence at helmet level and put the rear shocks at the softest setting (I'm 160 pounds ready to ride). The proximity key is too much of a good thing and asks you to fiddle with the controller button for everything. Putting a key in the ignition is far simpler. The engine works well and is smooth and silent. In less than half a tank, I'm averaging 3.0L/100 km or 78 MPG US. You're correct about the Burgman 400 now way too expensive. $11K here in Canada, $2700. more than I paid for the 75 pounds lighter Yamaha. Must be in part because it is Hecho in Indonesia.
According to what I've heard the new and previous years the BMW 400 is totally made in the Loncin Chinese factory 🏭.....and the motors and parts are NOW MADE IN CHINA ....and shipped to the Loncin factory 🏭 to be assembled !!!!!! Reason is they cost less to build in China with Chinese parts SO the share holders are making larger profits !!!!!! BMW has gone the same route alot of the places have gone !!! My Yamaha used to be made in Japan ....but for many years my Yamaha Xmax 300 is made in Indonesia !!!! However it's made with better quality control and parts than many !!!! Im thrilled with my 2023 Xmax ....it's as solid as a rock and very reliable !!!!
@user-gi7wi9kv9m Attention as of 2 years ago all BMWs and every single part including motor is TOTOLLY made in China at the Loncin factory 🏭 My friend got his last year and every part in made in China ......HE LEARNED THIS AFTER HE HAD ORDERED IT !!!!! GOOGLE LONCIN FACTORY 🏭
Good info scooterman. Agreed the x max has no real u.s. competition. Best bang for the bucks. Best to buy it new and customize it yourself. I feel the scooterman hates the rear trunk they sell.
I really need one now to commute to work about 500mi a week instead of using my Mercedes which is having maintenance issues at the moment. Gonna save enough cash and hopefully be able to find one in 2 months 🙏🙏🙏
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Xmax is the best value and with the digital dash is the one to beat but the ergonomics don’t work for all. I wanted to love the Xmax but the Burgman 400 just sits a tad lower and has a bit more legroom to stretch out. Even though it’s outdated still a great scoot and will probably be my next one.
Xmax 300 is indeed a great scoot, not having the Forza 350 in the US means it really has little competition. The Burgman is heavier and much older tech. Over the pond the Forza is cheaper than both and you can also throw in the ADV 350 which is possibly better still. Scoots in EU outsell motorbikes every year, even the UK which seems to love them less.
I really don’t understand why us doesn’t sell more maxi scooters there would definitely be a market for them.
Is yours chain drive or belt?
It is belt drive
@@slowridersmotovlog201- after watching hundreds of hours of videos about Americans and Canadians retiring to Southeast Asia - and hearing so many people, who are so different, talk about the differences between Western and Southeast Asian culture - I would conclude that the reason scooters are not more popular in the US is ego … our vehicles are part of what makes up our “social credibility.”
If you own a big, powerful Harley, you’re a bad-a$$. If you own a tricked out sports car, you’re a bad-a$$. If you own a Ford F-150, you’re a redneck bad-a$$. If you have a top of the line Can-Am Spyder RT, you’re a rich bad-a$$.
“You own a scooter? A SCOOTer. What are you, 12?”
I know it’s ridiculous, but people - we men in particular - seem to have part of our identities wrapped up in what we drive. It’s why pickup drivers make fun of Prius owners … who are laughing all the way to the bank. 🤷🏻♂️
I just took possession of the 2024. I sent out emails to the state's dealerships and the next day was contacted to be told that a 2024 had just come in on the other side of the state. Told them I'd be down the next day as it was obvious these things weren't going to be readily available. $8,000 out the door.
I don't even have my endorsement yet (just started the process) but knew I better snatch this up while the getting was good.
That was good for you to do they are very limited. Enjoy that new Xmax
Great video -- thanks for it! What year is the XMax in this video? What do you think of this one with the analog dials compared to the all digital dash on the 2024 you reviewed in another video? Are there other differences besides the dash that having preferring one over the other? Asking, as I'm considering an earlier 2022 model vs the 2024. I'm leaning on the former since it's low mileage and the latter has nearly 1,000 in new vehicle dealer fees tacked on.
Mine is the 2022 model
@@slowridersmotovlog201 Did you like the your review ride of the 2024 more than your 2022?
@@RUJedi there basically the same. I didn’t like the digital tac it was hard to see in the sun
You can add the BMW C400 GT and the Kymco X-Town 300 & maybe the AK 550 (I dunno, the engine size kind of puts this one in a class of it's own) to the competition list. I'd still choose my XMax over all of them. Every ride this bike impresses me.
@@leeball4 Xmax beats them all ....I know for a fact !!!! 💯
Is it reliable though? Will it last? Will it have problems like the Burgman 650? Is it more reliable than the X-town 300i? I'm tryin to decide between Xmax 300 and X-town 300i.
I could not find an Xmax when I settled for the Yamaha Smax. I paid $4k with it under 1k miles. 155cc easily does 65-70 mph. I love the Smax and so far I have put 10k miles on it in 2 years.
Thanks Dan... I agree with your assessment. The Xmax covers it for allot less.
I really love your area. Your images are just so quaint and lovely. Never a disappointment.
Gord
Thank you very much!!
@@slowridersmotovlog201 You're most welcome, Dan.
Gord
I have had 2 burgman 650 honda silverwing and yamaha tmax and now own a 2020 yamaha x Yamaha x max hands down best scooter 90miles an hour and twice the gas mpg of the others mention can't speak for vespa very expensive also not big about 12 inch wheels those are my thoughts
I’m right there with my friend. Thanks for watching
You've got another that feels the same way Yamaha Xmax 300 ...#1 all the way around ...speed, gas mileage, comfort, space, storage, smoothness, ride, maneuverability !!!!!
@@MarkLoris most definitely
Does it have cruise control
No it doesn’t
@@slowridersmotovlog201 :(
I was wondering how old do I have to be to ride it. Also do I have to have class 7 or 6?
It depends on what state you’re in
Thank you brother awesome information and a great video
Thanks for watching
What kind of MPG are you getting?
Right now 91.4
@@slowridersmotovlog201 That's remarkable. I was thinking of getting the Burgman 200 but it looks like the Xmax does just as well.
I just got a new 2024 Xmax this past Saturday. Have only been able to ride it about 30 miles since we just had Hurricane Debby (N FL).
Enjoy your videos. Trying to find out why I didn’t get an emergency id card as outlined in the manual. Dealer knew nothing about it. (Deer in the headlights)
Congratulations on the new Xmax. Glad you’re safe after Debby. We’re supposed get a ton of rain here in Maryland on Friday
I would really like an X Max, I have a 2021 PCX 160, I have put 9,880 miles on it since I bought it new in early 2022.
I have watched your videos on the X MAX is very impressive. I couldn’t think of going to a regular motorcycle. I can’t afford to not have the on board-storage.
Keep the excellent videos coming. 👍
Thanks for watching and keep rolling on that PCX!!
When I bought the PCX, there wasn’t an X MAX within 400 miles of where I live.
Maybe in a couple years. I will retire in three years, that can be my retirement scoot!
I promise you that you won't finda better Maxi scooter that I paid $6299 out the door!!!! It can go 87 mph easily ....it has more storage than any Maxi scooter in its class ....it gets 75 mpg easy....it is as fast as any scooter in its class ....I can leave my friends Burgman 400....he can't catch me unless I let off the gas.....it has plenty of legroom and I'm 6'3" 210 lbs. XMAX was my choice I bought after I retired ....and I'm so glad I bought it AND YOU WILL ALSO !!!! YOU WILL BE GLAD YOU DID !!!!
The plan is to get an X MAX before I retire. That way I can just enjoy it. I’m gonna be 61 later this year, would like to retire in a couple years, I plan on this being my retirement gift to myself.
I just turned 70 and another thing it's lighter and more maneuverable than my friends Burgman 400 .....you will like the 2023 & 24 digital dash ...blue tooth and Garmin maps on the dash ....it's got so many features ....ABS front and back as well as traction control .....disc brakes front and rear !!!!
Just got a new sub I'm on the fence and I am waiting for the 2025 models to come out on both xmax and burgman but probably going to buy both I really want to see which one lasts longer.
You're lucky with those temps, we still haven't hit consistent 60's yet here. So when we do get a couple of days here and there that are sunny and in the 60's we're outside taking the time to clean up the yard before all kinds of plants and weeds start growing. I've been waiting for more nice sunny days so I can put the new battery in the scooter and start working on my vintage dirt bike to get that going for the summer. :)
Hope warms up for you soon
@@slowridersmotovlog201 It will. It's just typical NY weather for us. We're just so tired of winter we want the warm sunny days back. We're just ahead of ourselves and have been starting on the yard work early. :)
The biggest question I have is how available are parts and for how many years ?
There’s no problem to get
@@slowridersmotovlog201 I looked into getting a 2006 Honda helix and Honda discontinued the parts . I am wondering when Suzuki will do the same being a Japanese Company.
You definitely can find the BMW 450gt in u.s. but it's over 10k$ probably like 12k$ out the door is really high, but the BMW does have lot options like heated seats and grips and bunch other stuff you likely wouldn't miss with the Bergman or xmax
I'll definitely be looking forward to your 24 Xmax review!!
In case you don't know this ALL BMW 400 ARE TOTALLY MADE IN CHINA
Parts all made in China and shipped to Chinese Loncin factory 🏭 to assemble
They try to keep it quiet !!!! Cause they are made cheaper thus shareholders make more profit !!!! I think this is going to kill sales because they still ask the outrageous price even though they cost less to make in China 🇨🇳
They are screwing customers !!!!
@@josephgeorgeejr7039 BMW totally made 100% in Loncin factory in China
Even my neighbors motor says China made !!!!! 100% truth ....no parts are made in Taiwan anymore 100%
@josephgeorgeejr7039 BMW TOTALLY MADE ....EVERY PART IS MADE IN LONCIN FACTORY IN CHINA
NO MORE TAIWAN MADE PARTS
N O N E
I'm in Canada and received my '24 XMAX one week ago that I had ordered in late March. Canadian model only comes in Raven Black with blue wheels and is otherwise identical to the US model with the double instrumentation. I'm 5'-6 and the seat is too high for me and hard. In fact, it is higher than other bikes I had that had a similar stated seat height, including a Burgman 650. Fortunately, it is light and has the typical low center of gravity of a scooter. I put the windshield in the highest of 2 positions to reduce turbulence at helmet level and put the rear shocks at the softest setting (I'm 160 pounds ready to ride). The proximity key is too much of a good thing and asks you to fiddle with the controller button for everything. Putting a key in the ignition is far simpler. The engine works well and is smooth and silent. In less than half a tank, I'm averaging 3.0L/100 km or 78 MPG US.
You're correct about the Burgman 400 now way too expensive. $11K here in Canada, $2700. more than I paid for the 75 pounds lighter Yamaha. Must be in part because it is Hecho in Indonesia.
Thanks for the comment very helpful information
Are you able to put both feet down on the floor at all? Did you try the aftermarket seat that lowers the seat height?
@@timzusa Tiptoe only and I'm not aware of a lower aftermarket seat. Anyhow, I wouldn't buy one.
@@timzusa yes I can put both feet down
I think the Italians and Taiwanese scooters are pretty reliable and reasonable priced also. More test ride videos please!!
Working on a couple this week!!
Very green wherever you are.
Maryland.👍👍
Yes I’m in Maryland
My kymco xtown 300 was $5200 out the door. I'm very happy with it. Kymco makes the BMW scoots.
Something I might have to look into thanks!!
According to what I've heard the new and previous years the BMW 400 is totally made in the Loncin Chinese factory 🏭.....and the motors and parts are NOW MADE IN CHINA ....and shipped to the Loncin factory 🏭 to be assembled !!!!!! Reason is they cost less to build in China with Chinese parts SO the share holders are making larger profits !!!!!! BMW has gone the same route alot of the places have gone !!!
My Yamaha used to be made in Japan ....but for many years my Yamaha Xmax 300 is made in Indonesia !!!!
However it's made with better quality control and parts than many !!!! Im thrilled with my 2023 Xmax ....it's as solid as a rock and very reliable !!!!
I’m looking at the SYM citycom 300 how’s that Kymco?
@@chgofirefighter I love the kymco. I'm not sure about the sym but I've heard good things about them also.
@user-gi7wi9kv9m Attention as of 2 years ago all BMWs and every single part including motor is TOTOLLY made in China at the Loncin factory 🏭
My friend got his last year and every part in made in China ......HE LEARNED THIS AFTER HE HAD ORDERED IT !!!!! GOOGLE LONCIN FACTORY 🏭
Good info scooterman. Agreed the x max has no real u.s. competition. Best bang for the bucks. Best to buy it new and customize it yourself. I feel the scooterman hates the rear trunk they sell.
lol I’m not hating on rear carrier
@@slowridersmotovlog201 it's never mentioned in your vids Danny boy...hahahaha
I really need one now to commute to work about 500mi a week instead of using my Mercedes which is having maintenance issues at the moment. Gonna save enough cash and hopefully be able to find one in 2 months 🙏🙏🙏
I’m sure you will
The Piaggio BV400 is about the same price as the XMax....
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