what kills me is that everybody is trying to protect liz. when sam is right why she keeps going to jason for her problems. i glad carly has sam back on this one
the thing that i HATE the most about lizahoe is that she's 2 faced. she just had a convo with carly and told her that basically she wants him and now she's JUST friends with him to sam...liar!! and when did he ever say that he wanted 2 be a father even if it wasn't his and have a family with her 2??? she's soo delusional and creates things in her head. HE LOVES SAM!!! all she ever did was trap him and try 2 change him..if she really loved him she wouldn't try..LIKE SAM DOES!!
I didn't like how Epiphany defended Liz. Liz is in the wrong and she always has been. When Carly seeks Jason, it's different and you see that. But Liz has other motives. Sonny and the other men in Carly's life know what Jase is to her. Liz on the other hand takes it to a newer level. She is very obsessed with Jason doing everything and being there for her, it's kind of sick. It might sound like a two faced move because Carly had Sonny and Jax who are very capable but Liz had a more intimate relationship with Jason. Which makes Lucky uncomfortable. But Liz never cared about how she made Lucky feel. To be honest Liz never cared who was involved and who got hurt as long as she had Jason. And Carly always knew that. Carly accepted Sam faster than she ever could Liz. Till this day Carly made peace with Robin but not with Liz. That should tell Jason something.
PiazzaGurl I don’t think Epiphany was defending Liz so much as she was standing up to the bean counter who was trying to exceed her authority. And what she said to Sam was right. Saying all that, everything Sam said to Elizabeth was also true. It was just the wrong place to say it.
@jmsg411 That is definitely not the way to approach Jason, but you right I would have went to him first! I would have reminded him how uncomfortable he was even hearing Ric's name, then tell him it is even worse for her when Liz just shows up ALL THE TIME!!!!
Who the heck is Epiphany to tell Sam off, really now her character annoys me so much. She's loud and always a sidebar to the main story yet she is never shy about expressing her often wrong and one sided opinions. Elizabeth risked her job to save Sam? She did it to please Jason, she did it FOR JASON, NOT SAM because she never stopped loving Jason, not because she was just his "good friend". Once Elizabeth has a history with a guy, they are never "just friends" she doesn't know how to be friends with her ex's , Just look at Lucky, when he came back from Ireland with Siobhan she was GREEN!, Look at Nicholas, how many times has she ran back to him over the years, and often when he was with someone else or when she was with someone else. And Jason she always finds a way to get back to him. So no. Elizabeth didn't do Sam a favor, she did herself a favor. By saving Sam and doing what Jason asked, she got to play St. Elizabeth. And then when she slept with Jason and got pregnant with Jake while still married to Lucky, she convinced Jason to keep her secret, supposedly because it was too dangerous, but really because she didn't want Lucky to find out that little miss perfect wasn't so perfect after all.
Liz don't know what she wants. She needs to back up and back off. Even now with the new Jason, Liz keeps calling Jason for everything and he goes running and yet Sam is backing off, Jason goes looking for her, without Sam calling him. That should tell Liz a lot. She never let Jason be Jason nor make his own decisions. If Liz wants a door mat, go look for Nikolas.
Hell No! I'm not a jealous person, but I'm just gonna say, if I lived in a SO world and my husband slept w/ a friend, chic ain't coming to my house and she ain't talkin to my man, like ever. Get a life Lizzie and quit sniffin around men that are taken!
Sam was correct in her judgment at this point and time. Doesn’t matter how they were close friends before she came to PC. Elizabeth should have known better yet she continued to wedge. She knew what she was doing. Now I can see if she would see him every so often to try and get the courage to tell him about the baby but she never did sooo...
When I watched this scene - I wish Sam would have confronted Jason first. Told him how she felt about Elizabeth alway showing up at their home. This was messy. But that’s why we watch Soaps - they are ment to be messy... If Jason was not considerate of Sam feeling and made excuses for why Elizabeth was always in their home - that is when Sam should have been preparing to leave the penthouse. But Sam was still young and dumb and Jason was taking care of her. If Jason heart was filled with love for Sam Elizabeth won’t have a chance to manipulate him. Sam should have told Jason up front “ I don’t compete with other women- its not in my nature”. If Jason was going to leave Sam for Elizabeth that when she would have known. When you look back on these scenes It was time for Sam to leave Jason. - She had a lot of growing to do on her own. I like that once Sam matured, got her self-respect back, and had a place that she could call her own; then Sam was able to handle that type of situation before it got messy. like when Brenda move in to the penthouse. Even though Jason was not into Brenda; Sam knew how to protect her heart. She told Jason “ I don’t compete with other women- its not in my nature”. Just like when they broke up in 2012 and Elizabeth was sniffing behind Jason once again. Sam guard her heart and walked away from Jason. If you go back at look at the 2006-2008 scenes- which I hated. Jason willingly allowed Elizabeth to manipulate him and his heart even after Jake was born, and Luck knew about everything. He didn’t try to see Jake secretly and spend time with him. Jason had a itch to scratch and her name was Elizabeth. Once all was satisfied he realized his mistake and went back to where he called home Sam.
i wish it was sam and robin fight over jason I bet Robin would win cause they have more chemistry then Jasam she was with him when he woke up from coma and she changed his life.
Sam is the love of Jason's life Robin never accepted Jason and his way of life she caused him to lose Michael by telling aj the truth she might have taught Jason how to love but sam is the only one for jason who has never tried to change him
Epiphany was right she didn't yell she didn't talk down or disrespect sam she told her straight up liz Epiphany Patrick...alot of people risked their jobs and lives to help her just because jason asked bruh just be grateful and stop finding ways to fight everyone
I don't like how people are treating Sam, this is crazy!
what kills me is that everybody is trying to protect liz. when sam is right why she keeps going to jason for her problems. i glad carly has sam back on this one
Sam have every right to be pissed off
Sam should pull a Lizzie trick...take the scarf to Lucky and tell him to keep his wife away from Jase...let the chips fall.
Good for you Sam! Yes Lizbitch leave Jason alone!!!!!!
Sam and Jason want Elizabeth out of there home remember in 2002 Jason does not love Elizabeth
Tear Lizzard a new one Sam!!!!
the thing that i HATE the most about lizahoe is that she's 2 faced. she just had a convo with carly and told her that basically she wants him and now she's JUST friends with him to sam...liar!! and when did he ever say that he wanted 2 be a father even if it wasn't his and have a family with her 2??? she's soo delusional and creates things in her head. HE LOVES SAM!!! all she ever did was trap him and try 2 change him..if she really loved him she wouldn't try..LIKE SAM DOES!!
I didn't like how Epiphany defended Liz. Liz is in the wrong and she always has been. When Carly seeks Jason, it's different and you see that. But Liz has other motives. Sonny and the other men in Carly's life know what Jase is to her. Liz on the other hand takes it to a newer level. She is very obsessed with Jason doing everything and being there for her, it's kind of sick. It might sound like a two faced move because Carly had Sonny and Jax who are very capable but Liz had a more intimate relationship with Jason. Which makes Lucky uncomfortable. But Liz never cared about how she made Lucky feel. To be honest Liz never cared who was involved and who got hurt as long as she had Jason. And Carly always knew that. Carly accepted Sam faster than she ever could Liz. Till this day Carly made peace with Robin but not with Liz. That should tell Jason something.
PiazzaGurl I don’t think Epiphany was defending Liz so much as she was standing up to the bean counter who was trying to exceed her authority. And what she said to Sam was right. Saying all that, everything Sam said to Elizabeth was also true. It was just the wrong place to say it.
I like Epiphany!! And shocking. Finally a very strong independent woman who is not enthralled in the daily drama
@jmsg411 That is definitely not the way to approach Jason, but you right I would have went to him first! I would have reminded him how uncomfortable he was even hearing Ric's name, then tell him it is even worse for her when Liz just shows up ALL THE TIME!!!!
Who the heck is Epiphany to tell Sam off, really now her character annoys me so much. She's loud and always a sidebar to the main story yet she is never shy about expressing her often wrong and one sided opinions. Elizabeth risked her job to save Sam? She did it to please Jason, she did it FOR JASON, NOT SAM because she never stopped loving Jason, not because she was just his "good friend". Once Elizabeth has a history with a guy, they are never "just friends" she doesn't know how to be friends with her ex's , Just look at Lucky, when he came back from Ireland with Siobhan she was GREEN!, Look at Nicholas, how many times has she ran back to him over the years, and often when he was with someone else or when she was with someone else. And Jason she always finds a way to get back to him. So no. Elizabeth didn't do Sam a favor, she did herself a favor. By saving Sam and doing what Jason asked, she got to play St. Elizabeth. And then when she slept with Jason and got pregnant with Jake while still married to Lucky, she convinced Jason to keep her secret, supposedly because it was too dangerous, but really because she didn't want Lucky to find out that little miss perfect wasn't so perfect after all.
Liz don't know what she wants. She needs to back up and back off. Even now with the new Jason, Liz keeps calling Jason for everything and he goes running and yet Sam is backing off, Jason goes looking for her, without Sam calling him. That should tell Liz a lot. She never let Jason be Jason nor make his own decisions. If Liz wants a door mat, go look for Nikolas.
PiazzaGurl now Liz has no one on gh anymore no friends at all gh has taken important people off gh starting with Emily and so on and years later to
Go Sam!!!! tell her how it is. Why is Eppifany in their business?
agree but i love eppifany.
Hell No! I'm not a jealous person, but I'm just gonna say, if I lived in a SO world and my husband slept w/ a friend, chic ain't coming to my house and she ain't talkin to my man, like ever. Get a life Lizzie and quit sniffin around men that are taken!
Peyton Taylor I absolutely agree with you 💯
Sam should have thought about it before she slept with her mother's husband lol her and carly deserve each other since she did the same thing'
Sam is ungrateful in this moment and then tried to act like she was a victim. I'm glad she quit! Epiphany should have fired her sorry ass!
Sam was correct in her judgment at this point and time. Doesn’t matter how they were close friends before she came to PC. Elizabeth should have known better yet she continued to wedge. She knew what she was doing. Now I can see if she would see him every so often to try and get the courage to tell him about the baby but she never did sooo...
Amen Epiphany.
those fireplaces,take a beating..
This all pisses me off. Normally I like Epiphany but come on. If you heard both sides of that argument how could you call Sam the bad guy? Grr...
does she know Liz slept with Jason?
Amy Bolick yes Epiphany knew that Liz the Repohoe slept with Jason
why don't you tell elizabeth to back off and quit skanky after a man that is not available!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I watched this scene - I wish Sam would have confronted Jason first. Told him how she felt about Elizabeth alway showing up at their home. This was messy. But that’s why we watch Soaps - they are ment to be messy...
If Jason was not considerate of Sam feeling and made excuses for why Elizabeth was always in their home - that is when Sam should have been preparing to leave the penthouse. But Sam was still young and dumb and Jason was taking care of her.
If Jason heart was filled with love for Sam Elizabeth won’t have a chance to manipulate him. Sam should have told Jason up front “ I don’t compete with other women- its not in my nature”. If Jason was going to leave Sam for Elizabeth that when she would have known.
When you look back on these scenes It was time for Sam to leave Jason. - She had a lot of growing to do on her own.
I like that once Sam matured, got her self-respect back, and had a place that she could call her own; then Sam was able to handle that type of situation before it got messy. like when Brenda move in to the penthouse. Even though Jason was not into Brenda; Sam knew how to protect her heart. She told Jason “ I don’t compete with other women- its not in my nature”.
Just like when they broke up in 2012 and Elizabeth was sniffing behind Jason once again. Sam guard her heart and walked away from Jason.
If you go back at look at the 2006-2008 scenes- which I hated. Jason willingly allowed Elizabeth to manipulate him and his heart even after Jake was born, and Luck knew about everything. He didn’t try to see Jake secretly and spend time with him. Jason had a itch to scratch and her name was Elizabeth. Once all was satisfied he realized his mistake and went back to where he called home Sam.
The only thing that I agree with Epiphany about is Sam can yell at anyone she wants to. That includes LizBitch.
i wish it was sam and robin fight over jason I bet Robin would win cause they have more chemistry then Jasam she was with him when he woke up from coma and she changed his life.
Sam is the love of Jason's life Robin never accepted Jason and his way of life she caused him to lose Michael by telling aj the truth she might have taught Jason how to love but sam is the only one for jason who has never tried to change him
When father Ruiz hugged that guy looked like manny trying to plan something
Epiphany was right she didn't yell she didn't talk down or disrespect sam she told her straight up liz Epiphany Patrick...alot of people risked their jobs and lives to help her just because jason asked bruh just be grateful and stop finding ways to fight everyone
Love how Epiphany set Sam straight! Kudos to her!
I dont get it. Its Okay for Carly to come see Jason but when Elizabeth does its red alert...lol
She literally said it in the video. Carly is way passed being interested in Jason that way. Elizabeth on the other hand obviously was.
Sam slept with her stepfather who does that and Liz husband was cheating on her so who’s wrong. Sam is so jealous of liz