i do think from her response she sound dumb like really silly make me question what role would have played if he had a better mom. HOWEVER. that such silly thing, u don't understand their dynamic, u don't know if she was scared for her own life even or if she was scared that her refusal might trigger into acting why she doesn't want him to have a gun. specially since she did a lot to get people that know better and the state to intervene, i think most parent barely does a decent job at being a parent never mind being a police/therapist for ur mentally ill kid. she clearly not equipped to deal with him and at least understood that and tried for years to get experts involved and those people failed to do their part.
@@wrx1th873 She watched him go psycho and only cared as soon as she was scared about her selfbeing. Prime example of why NA's social system is fcked and why prosecution is way too late in NA. Seriously, if you don't think there was a MASSIVE problem in the upbringing of this child with all this trauma, get help and check therapy for yourself. It's not a bad thing, it should be normalized.
@@wrx1th873 people forget that the guy was an adult and can purchase the guns without the involvement of the mother. The reason she went with him to purchase the gun was so she could make authorities aware of it because she couldn't stop him from getting it eitherway.
@@antdigiulio4285No good mother would let their mentally disturbed son purchase a gun, regardless of their age. She should have beat his ass to kingdom come or atleast scolded him. She's just enabling his behavior by telling him "it's his sign". She's a failure of a mother and a failure of a wife.
They said an ER doctor checked him. Are ER doctors even trained for this? They are trained to get patients in stable condition so they don't die. Was the doctors informed why they were sent in? If so, maybe he should have been sent to see a mental health professional, if the hospital has a team for this. I'm not even sure if most hospital are trained to deal with this adequately, especially if only an ER doctor saw him. Unsure if anyone would know but I've heard mostly bad things about mental health supports and emergencies
@@sp4rklsz The systems and laws in place stop things like this from happening all the time. Intervention is done to help individuals going through this kind of problem. We just don't hear about it because nothing of note occurred. When every single layer of defense fails, this happens. This isn't a problem with America or it's systems in place, the issue is with every last individual that did absolutely nothing about it when they had the means to do so.
No, we need a better mental healthcare system. Gun laws are already super strict, especially in Indiana, but when it comes to mental health issues, it only gets flagged on NICS if you've been institutionalized for it. Usually when kids have issues, only 2 things happen: 1) it gets ignored, or In Brandon's case, ignored and reinforced. 2) they get put on mind altering drugs that end up making it worse. @TimeToGetAGoodLife
@TimeToGetAGoodLife you also can't blame gun laws, when his mom took him to buy the gun. And I guess my other comment got deleted by YT, but mental health doesn't show on NICS. Only if you've been institutionalized for it. We need a better mental healthcare system, not even more right infringing gun laws, not that those ever work anyways (see California and chicago.) Kids with issues are always either ignored/reinforced or thrown on drugs that make their issues far worse.
Tbf his mom got it for him, and his mom was a fucken idiot. She was attacked by her son with a knife and she goes and buys him a gun? She should be on trial just as much as him for negligence
Legit I've never seen, heard, or met a single teen/adult who is obsessed with MLP and seriously not mentally fucked in some way. It's an immediate red flag in my books. Not even the first MLP obsessed mass shooter, genuinely crazy.
Anyone who allowed this nutjob to get his guns back needs to be fired and or sued into the poor house. How many more warning signs did they need? When the lunatic himself is saying those things and tells them to destroy the guns and he doesn't want them back, at that point the blame has to be spread around. On top of that, the mom clearly tried but she also heavily enabled this, why would you ever let someone who's violent, scary and deranged live in your house? This is so sad.
It didn't really tell us where he got them from, and obviously, if as the detective said that from that point forward he would be red flagged, and unable to purchase or own a gun, another shitty gun law or agent wouldn't have stopped him from getting it, since the one enacted upon him prior clearly did nothing.
My friend Tyler was in the Fed ex facility when this shooting happened. He said he was out in his car on break when the shoots started and the shooter couldn’t get through the door on the building so he started shooting at cars driving away in the parking lot. He said in a shooting situation ALWAYS RUN, don’t get in your car. He said he watched a girl get shot in the head and drop right at the front. Crazy that this happened to one of my best friends.
When I was a child I also had anger issues and a history of violence. The thing is though, my parents were smart enough to not drive me to a gun store to buy a gun. Absolute insanity. I remember my step dad always taking my brother out shooting and leaving me home. One day, I got mad and called him out on it. That's when he told me, "I'm afraid you'll kill me in my sleep." I replied, "If I wanted to do that, I'd just use a knife." I think you all get the point I'm making. If your kids have a history of violence, don't give them access to weapons. That blows my mind that this mother was ok with him getting a gun. 8:05
@@vivious_ Mental illness isn't a joke, it exists. The difference is, I learned how to deal with it all in healthy ways. I do occasionally self harm but that is rare now days even though I'm homeless. It's a reality that we all must come to terms with. Either, you learn to deal with your emotions or you become something like this guy. I made a choice and so did he. He just made the wrong ones.
bro you've not dealt with anything if you're still harming yourself. Get help. Go on some SSRIs or something bud. Slashing your wrists is no indication of a healthy mental state. @@Symbioticjuggalo
@@cyberturkey77 I don't even really do it anymore as I said. Once I'm no longer homeless, it'll stop completely. Also, getting help costs money. It's not a simple a get help like everyone thinks. Compared to how I used to be, trust me, it's an improvement. I used to cut on my stomach to the point were it would seep through my shirt. Now I have scars all over my body. I did get help. I helped myself when I realized our mental health systems are absolute dog shit. You see, the first step is accountability. Acknowledging that something is wrong is the first step to fixing it. Also, I'd rather save money to get back into an apartment then waste it on some narcissist who thinks they know everything.
"911 is anyone experiencing covid ninetee-" "THERE IS SHOOTING THERE IS SHOOTING" "maam i need you to calm down, is anyone experiencing covid 19 symptoms?"
I had something kind of like this happen. My mom was having a seizure and I called 999 for an ambulance. First thing I said after being put through is "Help my mom just had a seizure and she's not moving" and I fuck you not, the guy replies with "Are you calling about covid?"
@@yurilowell5182 ahhh we are toootally fine everyone. We have nooothing to worry about. Humanity is sure to continue progressing towards an ever brighter future.
Lots of people lose a parent to suicide, the vast majority don't obsess with applejack from MLP and go on violent rampages over it. The kid had issues, it wouldn't have mattered what happened, he is fcked in the head mentally. Some people are born insane. The mom tried endlessly for years to get help for this idiot.
@@FoxExcessi mean even if he had issues from the start it would have mattered if his family wasnt in such a bad state, its a bit ignorant to say it wouldnt have mattered. People can be corrected you know
@@Omid.12-5 Yeah I can see both sides here honestly. There's no telling what would have happened if the family situation wasn't fucked. The kid was fucked in the head from the getgo, but a fucked family likely didn't help. You either care about human life or you don't. Most people that don't care about human life are kept in check by their care for their OWN life.
@@znn4125Fascinating thing is good and evil cant be recognized by kids untill they develope sense perspective of others. Humans are narcisits by birth and we are all selfconsumed for survival sake. Concept of good has to be learned otherwise people stay corrupted and prone to evil.
I like when in the end chat spam "gigachad MOM" when she literally fail at basic empathy, discipline and teaching - she did nothing to stop him, she said incredibly stupid things, she ignore every signs and being careless toward her Husband&Son = What a fkn disaster of a Mother, not gigachad, just an L bish.
You're right and those ritards probably gonna be fathers and gonna do the same. Vicious circle at its finest. True empathy gonna be at the edge of extinction, because when you're empathetic enough you're not gonna bring children into this shitty world. Of course upbringing and environment matters, but yeah...
I mean the part where his dad is threatening to kill himself is textbook manipulation. She could've handled it better, but it's definitely not a surprise that the kid turned out batshit crazy with those parents.
"I grieve those people more than I ever will you" I think those words perfectly tell us how much she loved her son, and how she treated him. She is not to blame, but I'm sure that couldn't have made things any better.
@@CB-xp9ewYeah. I think when people see the word “blame” they think punishment. She holds some blame but isn’t legally responsible and shouldn’t face any legal repercussions. We can acknowledge nuance without needing to but ALL blame on one person and ZERO blame on anyone else.
most parent are shit anyway, my hot take is more people need to stop deluded themselves on being a good or okay parent or them caring is enough, good parent are actually rare, decent one are common and shitty one are somewhat common those last to can't deal with most kids@@brandonwilliams6221
Terrible mother, from the death of her husband to the massacre her son commited. Crazy how she pushed brandon to see Dr's so much and never checked in herself.
I genuinely believe she never meant for any of this to happen. It all started with the husband but I dont think she intended for im to actually s* This is why people should be careful on what they say to others
while she did not raise him right she used allot of paint to highlight her kid as a red flag but the government allowed him to actually buy weapons, when he had all the Flags for a killer in the making.
There are simply too many people in the US. This country is full to burst with a high population of immigrants. The reality is they don't care about you because they can't. There's just not enough resources to match our growth.
So what was the therapist/counselor thinking? What was the point of them even existing? How completely useless can one person be to not raise a concern about a guy implying he no longer gives a shit if he or other people die, when that is literally their only job. Top kek
she went to tell them, he was an adult and was buying them anyway, she told the police, told counselors, hell the police released him and gave his guns back even after he said to destroy them and he had been looking up mass shootings.
that actually was a good thing not a bad thing. he is an adult best she can do is go with him and get the police to get involve sadly they didn't do anything.
People in the chat freaking out about her saying 2:41 "go ahead", those people don't realize that threatening to "off yourself" if your partner leaves you is basically the biggest sign of a mentally ab*sive relationship. So many people stay in toxic relationship because their other partner guilts them into staying with them or else they'll "off themselves". After a while, those people stop caring and leave. It's better for them to leave than to force themselves to stay in a toxic relationship fueled by your partner threatening to end their own existence if you make them unhappy.
let me explain it to you from the flipside.. imagine you have kids, and you work your hardest to provide, you sacrifice everything in your life to raise these little fuckers, then outta seemingly nowhere your partner says ''I'm inhappy with YOU, and YOUR actions, so I'm gonna take OUR kids, fuck you, they will never see you again'' To the father, at this point, the kids might just very well be the only thing he is living for, in his mind, if he doesn't have his kids, he has nothing to live for. While I do agree, that statement is USUALLY a go-to manipulation tactic, sometimes people just say exactly what is going to happen, they speak facts and others don't care to listen out of pure spite or malice, which I believe is what happened here, and the mother likely gave up caring LONG before their relationship actually split. Is what it is. Women are wack - but hopeless & depressed man men can be deeply irrational. such is life in the modern age, welcome to the free world
The ponies are a bit weird but this doesn't have anything to do with them, it's just circumstances, if it wasn't an obsession with one thing it'd be something else.
This is why therapy doesn't work,a person is literally asking for help,saying what they will do and no one helps,no one warns the police. When a person with this kinda of issues goes to therapy and openly says he's a threat to society,HE IS ASKING FOR HELP,for someone to stop him. A lot of people who committed suicide also show the same sign. It's literally the last cry for help.
@@soleilrae therapy is a scam, it may help when someone is depressed or have anxiety (even then its still mostly useless) but someone who is violent with a bunch of other mental health issues, therapy is 100% pointless useless. the idea that therapy is this powerful cure to mental illness is so stupid. ur literally paying someone to listen to u talk, they only care because of the money, its a service first. u ever bought something at a store and the clerk ask how’s ur day been? thats literally therapy pretty much.
I'm autistic and I knew within less than a minute of watching that video that he was autistic(being literally obsessed with 'My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic', rocking back-&-forth, wearing multiple layers of clothes due to his skin being sensitive to certain types of fabric), in addition to having OCD(which I also have and which very commonly co-occurs with autism) and being mentally ill. It's so obvious! How in the actual f@@@ did he not get an autism diagnosis and why in the actual f@@@ did so many people ignore the tell-tale signs that he was dangerously mentally ill?! I'm sorry for Brandon and I'm sorry for the people that he killed. This tragedy could have been avoided if people had just done their goddamn jobs!
my heart goes out to the victims. if you ever need help guys, please tell someone, anyone, doesn't really matter who, just tell someone. Get help if you even have a inch of doubt with yourself. There are countless communities that are more the willing to help, go to group therapy, AA, NA, church, individual therapy, anything. People care about you even if they never say it or show it. Love yourself most of all
This mom and child are completely crazy. Imagine letting your teenage son decorate his room with my little pony 😂. Also why in the hell did she allow and take him to the gun store. This mom and kid are cooked beyond belief
'Less than an hour before the shooting, Hole posted to his Facebook account: 'I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her. If there's no afterlife and she isn't real then my life never mattered anyway.'
...His mom for years was trying to get him help. The system literally would release him after an hour of questioning etc. The gun store allowed him to purchase weapons despite his mother having a full record done on his for years about his mental health. After he turned into an adult she no longer has any rights over him to stop him from buying a gun. So again, that would be on the system at that point. It sounds like you didn't even bother watching the video at all buddy.
@@FoxExcessis the mother the system? No... well, this proves the system failed. At the end he literally stated his intentions, but there were still no repercussions.
@@RescueOfAnimalsShe didn't make the dad do shit you dingus. The dad was a grown man who wanted to use the threat of his life to force her to obey him.😂
You think loading the shotguns or mp5 they have and opening the trunk and waste 1min is good? They were the first cops at the scene , they simply rushed to save the people and stop the shooter. a whole minute when someone has an AR-15 shooting at people is long man.
@@redmoonrise6507 I really like the narrator - both voice and delivery. It's not like some laggy google translate-voice that some other true crime channels has.. :D
I feel bad for the kid, I mean getting childhood trauma fucks you up for real. It's not like he didn't do anything bad but still, his life was kind of ruined and his mind broken. I mean, sure he did something bad but at the same time you feel bad for him, it seems his entire life he never felt true happiness or anything pleasant.
Ultra rare reasonable commenter, people in twitch chat and this comment section really acting like they would turn out to be completely normal and healthy people if they had comparable parents, luck and environments of this guy. Its okay to feel bad for someone and understand what really made them the way they are, while still acknowledging they are terrible and commited unforgivable atrocities, those are not mutually exclusive or contradictions, people commenting in "terrible man does terrible things because life bad" crimes, especially juicers, are all allergic to nuance.
alot of people threaten with suicide when you try to leave a relationship so i understand the mom. its used as manipulation to make u feel guilty and lock you in the relationship. someone ending their life is their own choice and not a consequence of someone leaving.
1:14 - based take, mr. X. We surely do know that sometimes there is a certain low amount of the population that is resposible for more than a half of all crime.
Everyone blaming the mother but they really shouldn't be. It sounds like she tried extremely hard to get him the help he needed. She continuously brought him to the hospital and multiple psychiatric facilities. She reported her own son when he obtained a firearm. She constantly tried to things the right way, but she, the murderer, and all of the victims were failed by the system. He was constantly released and not taken seriously and was even allowed to obtain more firearms. For those of you saying she drove him to the gun store, yeah she did. I imagine she was trying her best to keep him happy and if she said no she feared that he would get worse. Some of you may say that she told her husband to kill himself but fail to realize that threatening to kill yourself over a relationship ending is extremely abusive. It was not her responsibility to put up with his bullshit. The fact he killed himself was all him not her.
What else is new. It's borderline impossible to talk about male violence on here without incels commenting on some way that it's a woman's fault. "It's always over a B" "oh he grew up with a single mother", the same old crap over and over. Most of these children blaming her for a grown man threatening suicide doesn't surprise me in the least. Wait til they grow up and one of their friends pull this kind of manipulation on them. Happened to me. After a while you really do just have to give up and say "I don't care, do what you want". That isn't killing anyone. You're one of the few sane people on here who seems to understand this is something common from abusers/manipulators.
My sister is like this.. she is 18 now and im scared she will do something like this, im trying to move but im scared to leave my mom alone with her as she is also terrified. Ive reached out to my family to ask for help but nothing happens. Idk what to do.
This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone associated with mlp fim do something like this, or be involved in something like this. And honestly, as a Pegasister myself, it saddens me that they out the MLP FIM obsession at the forefront, when his actions obviously stem from something else.
The narrator did a great job of telling us exactly what happened but who ever edits the thumbnails and title had other ideas I suppose. I get the idea though, hate gets people to click. Best not to take it to heart.
21:55 it’s not some exaggerated footnote yo it was a huge part of the story, his last post was all about it. MLP is not the mental illness but the way he cares for it clearly is a symptom of it
@@narwhalguy3829 I agree! He had OCD so seeing MLP as his only real comfort lead to really unhealthy thought patterns on top of the other disorders he was dealing with. Kinda sad tbh because all the signs were there that he needed help.
While both of you are right, it goes without saying that MLP doesn't cause this to happen. This is just one person out of millions who were POSITIVELY affected by it. It's similar to how having a mental illness doesn't automatically make you a killer. Most people who have mental illnesses are actually really nice people. I know because I've been around people with mental illnesses all my life. None of them have even come close to doing what this kid had done. That's all I meant. Just because one person of a fandom or with a mental disability does something like that doesn't mean they all are capable of such things.
3:40 i agree 100% because my ex was bat shit crazy and would threaten to kill herself if i left her or if i did something she didn't like all the time.
Its just sad the amount of people will joke about the MLP thing but not care or advocate for better mental health care and faculties in the US where it is sorely needed. I appreciate XQC's somewhat modest take on the niche communities that form over certain things, certain communities take a large focus on acceptance and not assuming bad things of others, but that unfortunately means that a lot of real psycho's like this guy come through and find attachment through that acceptance, but use it for their own twisted goals to make themselves feel better. As someone who got through a heavy period of depression myself through the acceptance and community that MLP brought about 11-12 years ago at this point, I just hope others can realize that generalizations are unhealthy and dont help anyone, its just a lazy way of thinking.
Ignore the retards in the replies, the show’s honestly awesome. A majority of the fans of it, while cringe or socially awkward, are some of the nicest dudes you’ll ever meet. It’s just got a bad rap for being girly upon first impression. But you know, everyone sees the Barbie movie and there’s nothing wrong with that…..
3:10 my did threatened to kill himself so many times that when he actually did it my mom felt soooooo bad since he would constantly use that as an excuse for shit she didn’t realize it would actually happen. Ppl don’t always know the full story of threats like that
Back in the day they were torturing people at those places. Then some years ago they just closed the ones we had and let the loonies out onto the streets. Why can't people in power understand common sense, instead of going from one extreme to the other. "oh what's that? You think mental patients shouldn't be tortured? Ok then, BE FREE mental patients! There we did good now right?"
One of the handful of things that Reagan really fucked up on. Shutting down mental institutions in 1981, and instituting more gun control and no-fault divorces. He kinda fucked society up with those, ngl.
This is the fault of the mother, and every single person who failed to do their job or hell do anything i'm glad we have it in place that the fbi and countless medical centers can say yeah you are a danger then just walk away and do nothing. How tf can he admit to it and STILL NOTHING.
Not from US, but I remember watching something a while back where gun stores were still giving weapons, but the background check list was so far behind, they'd sell the weapon, then if they find out weeks later you're mental, then they'll send the ATF or something
@@CoconutJewce The FBI probably personally sold him the gun. "I'm feeling desperate, alone, and violent! Oh boy!!! a 4,000 dollar check from....Definitely not fbi!"
the mom should shut up. killed her husband and raised his kid to be empty, depressed and with no empathy for others, and says i don't grieve my son. yeah, shows she never really cared for his well being in the first place.
You don't know why his father committed suicide. also, not grieving mass shooter doesn't mean you didn't care for them before they displayed these terrible behaviors. I agree that the mother was very ignorant though in terms of seeing the signs
He killed himself. Someone not wanting to be around you anymore and telling you to do whatever you want with your life is not killing you. What a pathetic mindset you have. And why would she grieve over someone who killed innocent people and made her life hell for over a decade? You obviously don't have a lot a life experience kiddo. There's nothing unnatural about not mourning someone like that at all, doesn't matter who it is. If you found out your dad r*ped 20 kids would you be upset he's going to prison? I know I wouldn't give a shlt about him after that.
@@jawyor-k3t the people who commit suicides like this are ones that have nothing to live for, no reason to live and endure this life , for no one and nothing, not even themselves. so when your wife tells you "yeah you should kill yourself" and you do it, that's when others realize you had nothing to live for, other than your family. and maybe the guy was severely mentally ill, but then you should never tell someone like that to kill themselves. and maybe the dad was a dick and a psychopath but the video didn't mention it or even her words, because if he was it would be very integral to the video and the story, so they would've definitely included it.
People weaponize "suicidal tendencies" all the time. All he was saying is you can't make a judgement on their entire relationship on a single thing she told investigators she said. Also the words, "go ahead" don't incite suicide, so get your facts straight there first💀You'd have a very difficult time proving that she was the sole cause, since he was the one who'd brought it up and you have no way of knowing how many times he brought it up in the past.
It's amazing how literally EVERYONE can buy guns in America. Depressed guy? - Sure, there you go! Person with anger issues? - Of course, but don't point it at others! Suicidal man? - Have fun! Absolutely ridiculous. But of course, guns aren't the problem! I mean, ask all the innocent and dead people!
The level of hatred for the Mom regardless of her faults is extremely revealing about X’s chat. High levels of hatred even for the most objectively despicable people is pathological.
She was the final push over the edge for her (ex) husband to commit suicide, so yeah fuck her. She encouraged him quite literally to do it, killing him and also destroying her sons future with that.
My mom would threaten suicide on a monthly to weekly basis from the age of 12 to 18. By the time I was 18, I had wrenched pill bottles from her hand, stopped her from grabbing knives. On some occasions, when I was younger and I first grabbed pills from her after threatening suicide, my mom and dad tried to play it off as a joke. I was 15 and from that day forward I never really saw them as parents. My mom was a drunk and a horrible person, so someone saying do it after them threatening suicide is much more plausible than you think when you've been desensitized to the thought of it.
Whenever you think your family life is dysfunctional or rough (and some of you reading this might have it pretty bad), there exist families like this; I don't even think a family is an appropriate term for whatever this kids life was.
most of the time yes , but those officers pretty much just arrived and took their pistol and rushed there. Can't really waste time when there is a crazy moron shooting ar15 at anyone he sees. They responded fast and rushed in quickly to save more people and secure the area. They did good.@@WhatEver-tx7px
@@narwhalguy3829 bro is fighting with himself at this point. You just said I was wrong and didn't watch the video now you're in violent agreement with me. The title says he murdered over MLP but my point is that it wasn't over MLP it was over the fact that his life was already fucked.
@pukei this guy, hitler and the rest of these scumbags since the start of humanity won. its crazy when karma exists in this world and thats just one of the small signs. use ur brilliant brain for once
@WhatEver-tx7px in Quran, Allah said we can kill animal for survival(hunger or dangerous) but in non cruel way of slaughter. Our prophet muhammad said treat animal like u treat a human being, so if u kill animal for fun its the same as u kill a human being
20 years ago this would've been a national disaster that would've been talked about for years, like Columbine. I've never even heard of this dude. That's some perspective.
He didn't shoot up a school, and he mostly killed adults. There are a ton of differences in these cases other than the fact one happened 20+ years ago. There were 2 columbine shooters, they had a manifesto, there was video of the actual shooting, it happened to children, they killers were both children unlike this dude who was a grown man etc. The list goes on. Correlation is not causation. There is also the fact that people like to blame violent games or music, that couldn't be done here because it was MLP. Whereas Christians used the Columbine incident to attempt to try to cancel Sabbath and Manson, again, drawing more attention to it. And not sure how you haven't heard of this dude.. but you not hearing about something doesn't change anything. Personally I heard about this awhile ago and I don't even live in the US, so not sure where you've been.
Everyone is blaming the mom, however I don think that's the main or only reason. The entire system surrounding mental health and guns in the USA is fucked, She took him to counselors and psych doctors multiple times, had the police involved as well, the enforcers of the red flag laws took him and then released him 2 hours later, the kid himself told the doctors he was a danger to society, yet the doctors did not notify authorities to take his guns, they did nothing and by the sounds of it the mother had to really fight with the system to just get her son seen by psychologists.. The police who enforced red flag laws released him 2 hours later and gave the guns back as well, despite knowing was disturbed and was looking up mass shootings. This goes to show that laws don't work if not enforced properly, which is hard to do here since we're so pro 2nd amendment, despite the devastating loss of life carried out by these maniacs.
IDK if everyone made the right conclusion... so many people calling him a bitch ass and so on. I mean, don't get me wrong, there is almost nothing worse than killing a bunch of innocent people, and that's a horrible tragedy. But there were multiple mistakes made along the way. I won't go into whether mental illness is congenital or acquired through trauma, that's an interesting topic for another discussion, I just mean if we're stuck with what he had, people still fucked up multiple times. His mother was kinda neglectful, so that might have added to his depression, plus she fucking bought him a gun when she clearly knew he had issues and tried to stab her with a knife. The "psychiatrist" who didn't even evaluate a guy with such a backstory and more red flags than the entire USSR and just let him go, that dude should get fired and possibly sued. I guess, the point of the case is that mental illness is the scariest thing in the world. Calling the killer a bitch does not necessarily make harmless people with depression or whatever feel better. Obviously, murder is horrible, and any killer like that is/was a bad person, but I'd rather ask the question like "what made him so bad?" I don't wanna get overly cringy and say "society" or whatever, but let's be fair: people kinda helped. Not the innocent ones he murdered, but just in general. When we're talking about mental health issues, we can never know for sure what's going on inside someone's head. Like, a lot of people have issues, maybe even all of us in some capacity, but the actual psychos who went and murdered people or something like that usually got pushed by someone or something. Who knows, maybe something his mom said to him was the last straw... maybe something else. If a person has mental illness, anything could be the defining factor. Just a random "you're worthless" from a stranger might do it, let alone a friend or a relative. IDK if this essay makes sense, I'm just saying it's not a joke matter at all
" I hope that I can be with applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her. If there's no afterlife and she isn't real then my life never mattered anyway." Hooollllyyy shit!!!
i worked there 3 days. I even talked to someone about it and the location does not care. To this day you still can not bring phones in. I quit and never looked backed. That location needs policy changes or just shut down
@@thanasis-_- so is threatening suicide for personal gain somehow better than someone responding go ahead to it? anyone who threatens suicide is disgusting
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Imagine taking your son to a gun store when he held you hostage and tried to stab you to death when he was 11. Truly a smart mother
i do think from her response she sound dumb like really silly make me question what role would have played if he had a better mom. HOWEVER.
that such silly thing, u don't understand their dynamic, u don't know if she was scared for her own life even or if she was scared that her refusal might trigger into acting why she doesn't want him to have a gun.
specially since she did a lot to get people that know better and the state to intervene, i think most parent barely does a decent job at being a parent never mind being a police/therapist for ur mentally ill kid. she clearly not equipped to deal with him and at least understood that and tried for years to get experts involved and those people failed to do their part.
@@rushyscoper1651one of the dumbest justifications yet 🤡
@@rushyscoper1651 DEFEND IT LUL
The mom pushed dad to suicide then raised a son to do this. That is crazy she isn't being looked into.
and the government recorded the entire thing in files and did jack shit lol
Must be that Patriarchy or something..
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@@TurtleChad1gay 😬
Ur Projecting bud
A terrible person was born from terrible parents? Who could’ve seen this coming!
Said Eren jeager calmly 😂
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree
Typical single mother kid
@@SerkongTypical generalizing juicer
@@ntz752 It's called pattern recognition buddy
His mom bought him a gun knowing who he was. she needs to go to prison.
True but even if she didn't, he still went ahead and bought 2 more guns. it was inevitable at that point.
@@wrx1th873 She watched him go psycho and only cared as soon as she was scared about her selfbeing. Prime example of why NA's social system is fcked and why prosecution is way too late in NA.
Seriously, if you don't think there was a MASSIVE problem in the upbringing of this child with all this trauma, get help and check therapy for yourself. It's not a bad thing, it should be normalized.
@@wrx1th873 people forget that the guy was an adult and can purchase the guns without the involvement of the mother. The reason she went with him to purchase the gun was so she could make authorities aware of it because she couldn't stop him from getting it eitherway.
@@antdigiulio4285No good mother would let their mentally disturbed son purchase a gun, regardless of their age. She should have beat his ass to kingdom come or atleast scolded him. She's just enabling his behavior by telling him "it's his sign". She's a failure of a mother and a failure of a wife.
The doctor actually.
Everything went so wrong in every aspect, mother, the dad, doctors who didn't see the problem, the aftermath. .
It's how disaster goes, everyone gets it wrong. I am very thankful that i am not in America and not grown up in those situations.
They said an ER doctor checked him. Are ER doctors even trained for this? They are trained to get patients in stable condition so they don't die. Was the doctors informed why they were sent in? If so, maybe he should have been sent to see a mental health professional, if the hospital has a team for this. I'm not even sure if most hospital are trained to deal with this adequately, especially if only an ER doctor saw him.
Unsure if anyone would know but I've heard mostly bad things about mental health supports and emergencies
@@sp4rklsz The systems and laws in place stop things like this from happening all the time. Intervention is done to help individuals going through this kind of problem. We just don't hear about it because nothing of note occurred. When every single layer of defense fails, this happens. This isn't a problem with America or it's systems in place, the issue is with every last individual that did absolutely nothing about it when they had the means to do so.
It's like if xqc and adept were to have a baby
Gun problems, selling the gun, gun shops like its candy shops, everything yes and some smart guy said what if everyone carried a gun xd.
I love how he has a dark history and he still got a gun NA is built different fr fr
No cap on stack tharts a wap frrfr
Yeah I mean it's different between states but no excuses that shit is absurd. We need WAY more strict gun laws.
No, we need a better mental healthcare system. Gun laws are already super strict, especially in Indiana, but when it comes to mental health issues, it only gets flagged on NICS if you've been institutionalized for it. Usually when kids have issues, only 2 things happen: 1) it gets ignored, or In Brandon's case, ignored and reinforced. 2) they get put on mind altering drugs that end up making it worse. @TimeToGetAGoodLife
@TimeToGetAGoodLife you also can't blame gun laws, when his mom took him to buy the gun. And I guess my other comment got deleted by YT, but mental health doesn't show on NICS. Only if you've been institutionalized for it. We need a better mental healthcare system, not even more right infringing gun laws, not that those ever work anyways (see California and chicago.) Kids with issues are always either ignored/reinforced or thrown on drugs that make their issues far worse.
Tbf his mom got it for him, and his mom was a fucken idiot. She was attacked by her son with a knife and she goes and buys him a gun? She should be on trial just as much as him for negligence
His whole household seemed so neglectful towards bro. But damn, I wish this whole thing never happened. Rip to the victims
@AQvc44 facts. Bro had a straight obsession with mlp and they let it happen? Im not letting no 11 yr old bitch me fr 💀
stop saying bro before i lose my mind
@@24kNickit really is not that serious…
Bro
@@sleep5329😂 fr
Legit I've never seen, heard, or met a single teen/adult who is obsessed with MLP and seriously not mentally fucked in some way. It's an immediate red flag in my books. Not even the first MLP obsessed mass shooter, genuinely crazy.
1:46 imagine what he did to that stuffed animal Aware
15:41 gives you a rear view
Anyone who allowed this nutjob to get his guns back needs to be fired and or sued into the poor house. How many more warning signs did they need? When the lunatic himself is saying those things and tells them to destroy the guns and he doesn't want them back, at that point the blame has to be spread around. On top of that, the mom clearly tried but she also heavily enabled this, why would you ever let someone who's violent, scary and deranged live in your house?
This is so sad.
its okay the gigachad cops saved the day
@@BajGer12331 but not the 8 dead people
It didn't really tell us where he got them from, and obviously, if as the detective said that from that point forward he would be red flagged, and unable to purchase or own a gun, another shitty gun law or agent wouldn't have stopped him from getting it, since the one enacted upon him prior clearly did nothing.
@@sinanapenka9748 Yep, 2A, you are your own police, don't be a bitch, exercise your rights now.
@@spectralops8146 ok so ban all guns and heavily prohibit the distribution gg
My friend Tyler was in the Fed ex facility when this shooting happened. He said he was out in his car on break when the shoots started and the shooter couldn’t get through the door on the building so he started shooting at cars driving away in the parking lot. He said in a shooting situation ALWAYS RUN, don’t get in your car. He said he watched a girl get shot in the head and drop right at the front. Crazy that this happened to one of my best friends.
jeez sorry that happened to him
@@crome2021he’s fine now, when it happened he was posting on his snap story that he was safe so I didn’t freak out for too long.
@@ItsReplayBro dont think any sane person would ever be "fine" after witnessing that
@@förtñitę0666true
DUDE! I know Tyler too! I saw his story when it happened it was crazy it happened so close by.
When I was a child I also had anger issues and a history of violence. The thing is though, my parents were smart enough to not drive me to a gun store to buy a gun. Absolute insanity. I remember my step dad always taking my brother out shooting and leaving me home. One day, I got mad and called him out on it. That's when he told me, "I'm afraid you'll kill me in my sleep." I replied, "If I wanted to do that, I'd just use a knife." I think you all get the point I'm making. If your kids have a history of violence, don't give them access to weapons. That blows my mind that this mother was ok with him getting a gun. 8:05
brother what the hell
@@vivious_ Mental illness isn't a joke, it exists. The difference is, I learned how to deal with it all in healthy ways. I do occasionally self harm but that is rare now days even though I'm homeless. It's a reality that we all must come to terms with. Either, you learn to deal with your emotions or you become something like this guy. I made a choice and so did he. He just made the wrong ones.
bro you've not dealt with anything if you're still harming yourself. Get help. Go on some SSRIs or something bud. Slashing your wrists is no indication of a healthy mental state. @@Symbioticjuggalo
@@cyberturkey77 ignorant comment ngl
@@cyberturkey77 I don't even really do it anymore as I said. Once I'm no longer homeless, it'll stop completely. Also, getting help costs money. It's not a simple a get help like everyone thinks. Compared to how I used to be, trust me, it's an improvement. I used to cut on my stomach to the point were it would seep through my shirt. Now I have scars all over my body. I did get help. I helped myself when I realized our mental health systems are absolute dog shit. You see, the first step is accountability. Acknowledging that something is wrong is the first step to fixing it. Also, I'd rather save money to get back into an apartment then waste it on some narcissist who thinks they know everything.
"911 is anyone experiencing covid ninetee-"
"THERE IS SHOOTING THERE IS SHOOTING"
"maam i need you to calm down, is anyone experiencing covid 19 symptoms?"
Imagine calling 911 for having a cold
what
I had something kind of like this happen. My mom was having a seizure and I called 999 for an ambulance. First thing I said after being put through is "Help my mom just had a seizure and she's not moving" and I fuck you not, the guy replies with "Are you calling about covid?"
@@yurilowell5182 ahhh we are toootally fine everyone. We have nooothing to worry about. Humanity is sure to continue progressing towards an ever brighter future.
Between how cooked both parents were, this kid didn’t stand a chance…
Lots of people lose a parent to suicide, the vast majority don't obsess with applejack from MLP and go on violent rampages over it. The kid had issues, it wouldn't have mattered what happened, he is fcked in the head mentally. Some people are born insane. The mom tried endlessly for years to get help for this idiot.
@@FoxExcessi mean even if he had issues from the start it would have mattered if his family wasnt in such a bad state, its a bit ignorant to say it wouldnt have mattered. People can be corrected you know
@@Omid.12-5 Yeah I can see both sides here honestly. There's no telling what would have happened if the family situation wasn't fucked. The kid was fucked in the head from the getgo, but a fucked family likely didn't help. You either care about human life or you don't. Most people that don't care about human life are kept in check by their care for their OWN life.
The parents are 100% at fault, but i also 100% believe some people are evil from birth, it’s just how it is
@@znn4125Fascinating thing is good and evil cant be recognized by kids untill they develope sense perspective of others. Humans are narcisits by birth and we are all selfconsumed for survival sake. Concept of good has to be learned otherwise people stay corrupted and prone to evil.
Imagine buying the mf that held you hostage a gun smh.
I like when in the end chat spam "gigachad MOM" when she literally fail at basic empathy, discipline and teaching - she did nothing to stop him, she said incredibly stupid things, she ignore every signs and being careless toward her Husband&Son = What a fkn disaster of a Mother, not gigachad, just an L bish.
You're right and those ritards probably gonna be fathers and gonna do the same. Vicious circle at its finest. True empathy gonna be at the edge of extinction, because when you're empathetic enough you're not gonna bring children into this shitty world. Of course upbringing and environment matters, but yeah...
listen up incel women can't do anything wrong. the fact you think she did is very problematic.... yikes sweaty, a lot to unpack here.
triggered at chat LULW
Didn't they spam that only in the beginning or
Woman mid tier
Almost feels like he was some kind of psychoanalysis experiment since they tried so hard to keep him out of custody and make sure he had his gun.
True wtf
FBI rejected him so he becomes ape
It is not just the fact that he killed people over a damn fictional character is shocking, but the fact on how terrible and careless his mom is.
I mean the part where his dad is threatening to kill himself is textbook manipulation. She could've handled it better, but it's definitely not a surprise that the kid turned out batshit crazy with those parents.
@@bakedpuffins2303 fr his parents and whole family and basically every person he interacted with was batshit crazy lol
that awkward moment when you don't find applejack in the afterlife
💀💀
It’s actually insane how brain dead the chat is 100% of the time
Especially when it’s EU chat
@@bart1950 speak of the devil
@@bart1950Most ironic thing I think has ever happened. Holy shit 😂
Brother, 70% of chat are 12 years old who still have to rest and add with their fingers
@@JayPeeh455Adults don't rest? Omg I can't wait to not be 12 anymore
Depression, anxiety and My little pony. Mlp was clearly the biggest red flag.
true this guy is like a mild version of you (neo-nazi ped0 and chronically online)
The hidden comment is an angry MLP fan.
@@TurtleChad1 They also have a political compass pfp and they scored libleft. A true modern classic
@@justinian1226 libertarians 🤮
he shouldve tried using the magic of friendship 😔
"I grieve those people more than I ever will you" I think those words perfectly tell us how much she loved her son, and how she treated him. She is not to blame, but I'm sure that couldn't have made things any better.
she is def partly to blame, it was her kid
She should have had her son taken away from her since she clearly couldn’t manage him
@@CB-xp9ewYeah. I think when people see the word “blame” they think punishment. She holds some blame but isn’t legally responsible and shouldn’t face any legal repercussions.
We can acknowledge nuance without needing to but ALL blame on one person and ZERO blame on anyone else.
most parent are shit anyway, my hot take is more people need to stop deluded themselves on being a good or okay parent or them caring is enough, good parent are actually rare, decent one are common and shitty one are somewhat common those last to can't deal with most kids@@brandonwilliams6221
Terrible mother, from the death of her husband to the massacre her son commited. Crazy how she pushed brandon to see Dr's so much and never checked in herself.
I genuinely believe she never meant for any of this to happen. It all started with the husband but I dont think she intended for im to actually s*
This is why people should be careful on what they say to others
while she did not raise him right
she used allot of paint to highlight her kid as a red flag
but the government allowed him to actually buy weapons, when he had all the Flags for a killer in the making.
welcome to amreica @@sownheard
You're a bozo if you blame the fathers death on the mother.
you have no idea about the full picture of anything that happened. calling the mother "terrible" is just unfair
It’s almost like the signs were there all along? Who would’ve thought😵💫America Moment
There are simply too many people in the US. This country is full to burst with a high population of immigrants. The reality is they don't care about you because they can't. There's just not enough resources to match our growth.
It’s like France with terrorist attacks
@@bopthem6941so your telling me he was born that way? lmao america moment again.
Almost like the FBI knew and didn't do anything. Weird.
@@wolfigans8376you guys are in love with the word america bro 😂 just call it culture atp.
Applejack would never be friends with someone like him. This kid will die alone with nobody around
So what was the therapist/counselor thinking? What was the point of them even existing? How completely useless can one person be to not raise a concern about a guy implying he no longer gives a shit if he or other people die, when that is literally their only job. Top kek
I’d prosecute the mother, she knew he had issues yet still took him to the gun store….
she went to tell them, he was an adult and was buying them anyway, she told the police, told counselors, hell the police released him and gave his guns back even after he said to destroy them and he had been looking up mass shootings.
that actually was a good thing not a bad thing. he is an adult best she can do is go with him and get the police to get involve sadly they didn't do anything.
US IQ
19:21 homie in chat really said "rdm'd and then alt f4's???" lmao
ive watched a good amount of these videos but i must say this one has to be the most upsetting.
People in the chat freaking out about her saying 2:41 "go ahead", those people don't realize that threatening to "off yourself" if your partner leaves you is basically the biggest sign of a mentally ab*sive relationship. So many people stay in toxic relationship because their other partner guilts them into staying with them or else they'll "off themselves". After a while, those people stop caring and leave. It's better for them to leave than to force themselves to stay in a toxic relationship fueled by your partner threatening to end their own existence if you make them unhappy.
let me explain it to you from the flipside.. imagine you have kids, and you work your hardest to provide, you sacrifice everything in your life to raise these little fuckers, then outta seemingly nowhere your partner says ''I'm inhappy with YOU, and YOUR actions, so I'm gonna take OUR kids, fuck you, they will never see you again''
To the father, at this point, the kids might just very well be the only thing he is living for, in his mind, if he doesn't have his kids, he has nothing to live for.
While I do agree, that statement is USUALLY a go-to manipulation tactic, sometimes people just say exactly what is going to happen, they speak facts and others don't care to listen out of pure spite or malice, which I believe is what happened here, and the mother likely gave up caring LONG before their relationship actually split.
Is what it is. Women are wack - but hopeless & depressed man men can be deeply irrational. such is life in the modern age, welcome to the free world
The ponies are a bit weird but this doesn't have anything to do with them, it's just circumstances, if it wasn't an obsession with one thing it'd be something else.
Obsessions aren’t good
21:57
@@jaygin6518 what about my obsession over your drip?
Weeb btw
any boy 8 and above who likes my little pony should be locked up
22:05 I have never seen chat move so quick, so suddenly lmao.
This is why therapy doesn't work,a person is literally asking for help,saying what they will do and no one helps,no one warns the police.
When a person with this kinda of issues goes to therapy and openly says he's a threat to society,HE IS ASKING FOR HELP,for someone to stop him.
A lot of people who committed suicide also show the same sign. It's literally the last cry for help.
therapy does work but only if that person is accepting help, if they dont want the help then it wont work
@@soleilraemost of the time its not about accepting the HELP its about providing the exact help they need
and what would be the course of action if therapy doesn’t work, just curious
@@znn4125 put him in the army
@@soleilrae
therapy is a scam, it may help when someone is depressed or have anxiety (even then its still mostly useless) but someone who is violent with a bunch of other mental health issues, therapy is 100% pointless useless.
the idea that therapy is this powerful cure to mental illness is so stupid. ur literally paying someone to listen to u talk, they only care because of the money, its a service first.
u ever bought something at a store and the clerk ask how’s ur day been? thats literally therapy pretty much.
I'm autistic and I knew within less than a minute of watching that video that he was autistic(being literally obsessed with 'My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic', rocking back-&-forth, wearing multiple layers of clothes due to his skin being sensitive to certain types of fabric), in addition to having OCD(which I also have and which very commonly co-occurs with autism) and being mentally ill. It's so obvious! How in the actual f@@@ did he not get an autism diagnosis and why in the actual f@@@ did so many people ignore the tell-tale signs that he was dangerously mentally ill?!
I'm sorry for Brandon and I'm sorry for the people that he killed. This tragedy could have been avoided if people had just done their goddamn jobs!
Yea
Right?
I'm also autistic btw
@@SunIsLost i didnt expect u to be here
@@SunIsLostyou like brainrot. 😂😂
my heart goes out to the victims. if you ever need help guys, please tell someone, anyone, doesn't really matter who, just tell someone. Get help if you even have a inch of doubt with yourself. There are countless communities that are more the willing to help, go to group therapy, AA, NA, church, individual therapy, anything. People care about you even if they never say it or show it. Love yourself most of all
"Hes 11yo just kick his ass" when bro charged his mom with a knife. That comment deserves VIP
This mom and child are completely crazy. Imagine letting your teenage son decorate his room with my little pony 😂. Also why in the hell did she allow and take him to the gun store. This mom and kid are cooked beyond belief
'Less than an hour before the shooting, Hole posted to his Facebook account: 'I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her. If there's no afterlife and she isn't real then my life never mattered anyway.'
-simping
-fictional
-animal
those are already red flags enough and somehow they didn't lock him in a psych ward
Lmao
and once again the system failed. He warned everybody he wanted help, but he was ignored.
"warned everyone" on the call with the detective he continually denied having mental health issues. tf you talking about?
...His mom for years was trying to get him help. The system literally would release him after an hour of questioning etc. The gun store allowed him to purchase weapons despite his mother having a full record done on his for years about his mental health. After he turned into an adult she no longer has any rights over him to stop him from buying a gun. So again, that would be on the system at that point. It sounds like you didn't even bother watching the video at all buddy.
@@FoxExcessis the mother the system? No... well, this proves the system failed. At the end he literally stated his intentions, but there were still no repercussions.
@@yungwaifu he tried, at least at the end....
All the chatters spamming "Gigachad" for the mom at the end. 💀 DIDN'T BAD PARENTING START ALL OF THIS?
@AppleSauce7417 You are partially correct, but he probably wouldn't have gone this Schizo if his upbringing wasn't absolutely cooked.
@AppleSauce7417it’s both nature and nurture
There’s nuance kiddos
@AppleSauce7417 13% moment
@AppleSauce7417 Ur missing the vital point, she made his dad kill himself and after that he went on a downward spiral.
@@RescueOfAnimalsShe didn't make the dad do shit you dingus. The dad was a grown man who wanted to use the threat of his life to force her to obey him.😂
15:45 is so messed up. imagine you're finally bettering yourself and feeling a lot happier and people start to grow more concerned about you.
18:13 they said he has an ar15 and the cops go in with PISTOLS? wtf
Jake moment
You think loading the shotguns or mp5 they have and opening the trunk and waste 1min is good? They were the first cops at the scene , they simply rushed to save the people and stop the shooter. a whole minute when someone has an AR-15 shooting at people is long man.
When JCS isn't uploading, EWU is golden. Their 2 other channels "Crime Storytime" and "Bodycam" are amazing too!
ma man
@@Marko6060 hell yea düd
Ewu been clear of jcs for a while now
nah EWU has that goofy narrator. Dire Trip is much better. Law&Crime Network has good bodycam vids but they started using a goofy narrator too.
@@redmoonrise6507 I really like the narrator - both voice and delivery. It's not like some laggy google translate-voice that some other true crime channels has.. :D
I feel bad for the kid, I mean getting childhood trauma fucks you up for real. It's not like he didn't do anything bad but still, his life was kind of ruined and his mind broken. I mean, sure he did something bad but at the same time you feel bad for him, it seems his entire life he never felt true happiness or anything pleasant.
Ultra rare reasonable commenter, people in twitch chat and this comment section really acting like they would turn out to be completely normal and healthy people if they had comparable parents, luck and environments of this guy.
Its okay to feel bad for someone and understand what really made them the way they are, while still acknowledging they are terrible and commited unforgivable atrocities, those are not mutually exclusive or contradictions, people commenting in "terrible man does terrible things because life bad" crimes, especially juicers, are all allergic to nuance.
Imagine being a brony
yea LMAO
There are much worse things than being a brony and that’s nothing close to
Sanest my little pony fan:
the brony with the most social life:
@@greyfoxthesoldier what a job does to a anti social Brony:
alot of people threaten with suicide when you try to leave a relationship so i understand the mom. its used as manipulation to make u feel guilty and lock you in the relationship. someone ending their life is their own choice and not a consequence of someone leaving.
You dont just decide to kill yourself in one day, the dad obviously was suicidal for a good while.I dont know how the mom didnt notice.
Why do you idiots always act like this is the reason every single time it happens?
1:14 - based take, mr. X.
We surely do know that sometimes there is a certain low amount of the population that is resposible for more than a half of all crime.
Friendship ain’t so magical
Goddammit you just made me laugh at a tragedy
He got friendzoned by Applejack
Actually made me chuckle
the first red flag is actual my little pony, that mental illness for sure
Everyone blaming the mother but they really shouldn't be. It sounds like she tried extremely hard to get him the help he needed. She continuously brought him to the hospital and multiple psychiatric facilities. She reported her own son when he obtained a firearm. She constantly tried to things the right way, but she, the murderer, and all of the victims were failed by the system. He was constantly released and not taken seriously and was even allowed to obtain more firearms. For those of you saying she drove him to the gun store, yeah she did. I imagine she was trying her best to keep him happy and if she said no she feared that he would get worse. Some of you may say that she told her husband to kill himself but fail to realize that threatening to kill yourself over a relationship ending is extremely abusive. It was not her responsibility to put up with his bullshit. The fact he killed himself was all him not her.
What else is new. It's borderline impossible to talk about male violence on here without incels commenting on some way that it's a woman's fault. "It's always over a B" "oh he grew up with a single mother", the same old crap over and over. Most of these children blaming her for a grown man threatening suicide doesn't surprise me in the least. Wait til they grow up and one of their friends pull this kind of manipulation on them. Happened to me. After a while you really do just have to give up and say "I don't care, do what you want". That isn't killing anyone.
You're one of the few sane people on here who seems to understand this is something common from abusers/manipulators.
brain dead take the mother enabled this and even said to her husband to end their life theres no excuse for it
@@FoxExcess Wasn't a threat, he stated exactly what would happen, if she stripped away his only reason to live.
My sister is like this.. she is 18 now and im scared she will do something like this, im trying to move but im scared to leave my mom alone with her as she is also terrified. Ive reached out to my family to ask for help but nothing happens. Idk what to do.
I saw the original video before this and wow, it’s terrifying
If everyone had a gun this wouldnt happend
This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone associated with mlp fim do something like this, or be involved in something like this.
And honestly, as a Pegasister myself, it saddens me that they out the MLP FIM obsession at the forefront, when his actions obviously stem from something else.
The narrator did a great job of telling us exactly what happened but who ever edits the thumbnails and title had other ideas I suppose. I get the idea though, hate gets people to click. Best not to take it to heart.
@joelthecannonmain7121 true that!
21:55 it’s not some exaggerated footnote yo it was a huge part of the story, his last post was all about it. MLP is not the mental illness but the way he cares for it clearly is a symptom of it
@@narwhalguy3829 I agree! He had OCD so seeing MLP as his only real comfort lead to really unhealthy thought patterns on top of the other disorders he was dealing with. Kinda sad tbh because all the signs were there that he needed help.
While both of you are right, it goes without saying that MLP doesn't cause this to happen. This is just one person out of millions who were POSITIVELY affected by it. It's similar to how having a mental illness doesn't automatically make you a killer. Most people who have mental illnesses are actually really nice people. I know because I've been around people with mental illnesses all my life. None of them have even come close to doing what this kid had done.
That's all I meant. Just because one person of a fandom or with a mental disability does something like that doesn't mean they all are capable of such things.
Just let this sink in that it’s literally over about my little pony character
It isn’t, he’s just insane
no because of his trash parents
3:12 Brother you are not a physiatrist you no nothing about any of this just press the space bar lil bro
13:13 lmao the branhole is on the roll
3:40 i agree 100% because my ex was bat shit crazy and would threaten to kill herself if i left her or if i did something she didn't like all the time.
Aint no way some sperg said ''BASED MOM'' 💀
In terms of telling someone trying to use suicide as a bargaining chip, yes it is based to tell that person you don't care.
um no that shit isn't based either are you special needs or something
@@futureusername3468special case of ritardation
Its not about his interests its about his family and uprising thats the thing that f him up
His mum was more hardcore than he ever was just in those last words alone goddam
just by her saying that i can tell she was a trash parent anyway
15:37 I have those same pants I use to do PE in highschool in those pants very nice fit and feel for how cheap and off brand they were
I like when he watches type of videos, should get him to watch more
Its just sad the amount of people will joke about the MLP thing but not care or advocate for better mental health care and faculties in the US where it is sorely needed. I appreciate XQC's somewhat modest take on the niche communities that form over certain things, certain communities take a large focus on acceptance and not assuming bad things of others, but that unfortunately means that a lot of real psycho's like this guy come through and find attachment through that acceptance, but use it for their own twisted goals to make themselves feel better. As someone who got through a heavy period of depression myself through the acceptance and community that MLP brought about 11-12 years ago at this point, I just hope others can realize that generalizations are unhealthy and dont help anyone, its just a lazy way of thinking.
Lol the irony
Why do u like my little pony??
Is MLP furry?🧐
Ignore the retards in the replies, the show’s honestly awesome. A majority of the fans of it, while cringe or socially awkward, are some of the nicest dudes you’ll ever meet. It’s just got a bad rap for being girly upon first impression.
But you know, everyone sees the Barbie movie and there’s nothing wrong with that…..
So basically your story is the same as this guys?
3:10 my did threatened to kill himself so many times that when he actually did it my mom felt soooooo bad since he would constantly use that as an excuse for shit she didn’t realize it would actually happen. Ppl don’t always know the full story of threats like that
Back in the day we had asylums. If we still did, this might have been avoided.
Bring back asylums
We can thank Reagan for that
Back in the day they were torturing people at those places. Then some years ago they just closed the ones we had and let the loonies out onto the streets. Why can't people in power understand common sense, instead of going from one extreme to the other.
"oh what's that? You think mental patients shouldn't be tortured? Ok then, BE FREE mental patients! There we did good now right?"
Back in the best days we.. took problematic youngsters out back. Cost effective and fool proof.
One of the handful of things that Reagan really fucked up on. Shutting down mental institutions in 1981, and instituting more gun control and no-fault divorces. He kinda fucked society up with those, ngl.
This mom was ignoring a bonfire in front of her while simultaneously pouring gas on it and acting like it was water all at the same time
how tf did he have all this mental things for years and years the fbi came said he was a danger and he still got a weapon wtf.
This is the fault of the mother, and every single person who failed to do their job or hell do anything i'm glad we have it in place that the fbi and countless medical centers can say yeah you are a danger then just walk away and do nothing. How tf can he admit to it and STILL NOTHING.
Not from US, but I remember watching something a while back where gun stores were still giving weapons, but the background check list was so far behind, they'd sell the weapon, then if they find out weeks later you're mental, then they'll send the ATF or something
Imagine thinking the FBI give a fuck or are competent in doing their job. lmao Wait, I hear a knock at th-
@@CoconutJewce The FBI probably personally sold him the gun. "I'm feeling desperate, alone, and violent! Oh boy!!! a 4,000 dollar check from....Definitely not fbi!"
Because they want this to happen.
What sick and twisted parents
American gun policies hard carrying the kill streak once again 🦅🦅🦅
It's so weird as a non American watching things like this happen. There are a million ways this could've been avoided
You're blaming the gun and ignoring the root problem once again (mental health).
@@GoredrinkerRSat least schizos without guns are less destructive
@@TurtleChad1 until they build a bomb
@@GoredrinkerRS what about the fact that a person with mental health issues got a hold of a gun? I don't think he's talking about the gun itself
Cancer chat never ceases to amaze me
the mom should shut up. killed her husband and raised his kid to be empty, depressed and with no empathy for others, and says i don't grieve my son. yeah, shows she never really cared for his well being in the first place.
You don't know why his father committed suicide. also, not grieving mass shooter doesn't mean you didn't care for them before they displayed these terrible behaviors. I agree that the mother was very ignorant though in terms of seeing the signs
He killed himself. Someone not wanting to be around you anymore and telling you to do whatever you want with your life is not killing you. What a pathetic mindset you have.
And why would she grieve over someone who killed innocent people and made her life hell for over a decade? You obviously don't have a lot a life experience kiddo. There's nothing unnatural about not mourning someone like that at all, doesn't matter who it is.
If you found out your dad r*ped 20 kids would you be upset he's going to prison?
I know I wouldn't give a shlt about him after that.
@@jawyor-k3t the people who commit suicides like this are ones that have nothing to live for, no reason to live and endure this life , for no one and nothing, not even themselves. so when your wife tells you "yeah you should kill yourself" and you do it, that's when others realize you had nothing to live for, other than your family. and maybe the guy was severely mentally ill, but then you should never tell someone like that to kill themselves. and maybe the dad was a dick and a psychopath but the video didn't mention it or even her words, because if he was it would be very integral to the video and the story, so they would've definitely included it.
3:12 wtf is that take? inciting suicide is a crime
🤓☝ aksually its a crime therefore its bad
Is it good to incite suicide? Or you are just retarded with access to internet?
@@SwitchbIade
People weaponize "suicidal tendencies" all the time. All he was saying is you can't make a judgement on their entire relationship on a single thing she told investigators she said.
Also the words, "go ahead" don't incite suicide, so get your facts straight there first💀You'd have a very difficult time proving that she was the sole cause, since he was the one who'd brought it up and you have no way of knowing how many times he brought it up in the past.
"I'm gonna kill myself" -> "Go Ahead".
Is not inciting it?
@@bradlasalle2888
Damn. What an unnecessary disaster. His mother failed miserably. People like that shouldn’t have children. Rest in peace to the victims.
have you listen ??? really ??? rewatch again...............
It's amazing how literally EVERYONE can buy guns in America.
Depressed guy?
- Sure, there you go!
Person with anger issues?
- Of course, but don't point it at others!
Suicidal man?
- Have fun!
Absolutely ridiculous.
But of course, guns aren't the problem!
I mean, ask all the innocent and dead people!
The level of hatred for the Mom regardless of her faults is extremely revealing about X’s chat. High levels of hatred even for the most objectively despicable people is pathological.
Drove the dad to suicide and said all that shit infront of their son plus couldn't even raise the son properly. The mom takes a Big L
She was the final push over the edge for her (ex) husband to commit suicide, so yeah fuck her. She encouraged him quite literally to do it, killing him and also destroying her sons future with that.
she basically made the dad kill himself then enabled the son to commit a mass shooting. she is an awful person and even worse parent
My mom would threaten suicide on a monthly to weekly basis from the age of 12 to 18. By the time I was 18, I had wrenched pill bottles from her hand, stopped her from grabbing knives. On some occasions, when I was younger and I first grabbed pills from her after threatening suicide, my mom and dad tried to play it off as a joke. I was 15 and from that day forward I never really saw them as parents. My mom was a drunk and a horrible person, so someone saying do it after them threatening suicide is much more plausible than you think when you've been desensitized to the thought of it.
This dude really got paid $100M to crunch cereal obnoxiously loud into his mic and "react" to other people's videos
yup 😎now go grind that 9 to 5 to make 60k per year baby 💀feels good man
@@Febard TrollDespair
@@FebardLil bro is flexing another man's money 💀
telling someone to "go ahead and unalive yourself" SO HECKIN BAYZED AND GIGAAA CHAAD 😂🤙
Whenever you think your family life is dysfunctional or rough (and some of you reading this might have it pretty bad), there exist families like this; I don't even think a family is an appropriate term for whatever this kids life was.
the lucas extreme duty gun oil is the shit ngl
None of this woulda happened if the employees had guns
Should have mounted a heavy machine gun on the fedex roof
Actually based
Non of of this would've happend if none had guns
And people wonder why he was nuts, mother seems like a sack of crap and so was his father, it's not a coincidence he turned out that way.
18:20 bro thinks there is a SWAT team on every other block LULW
there is still a rifle in a police car most of the time if i remember correctly
most of the time yes , but those officers pretty much just arrived and took their pistol and rushed there. Can't really waste time when there is a crazy moron shooting ar15 at anyone he sees. They responded fast and rushed in quickly to save more people and secure the area. They did good.@@WhatEver-tx7px
How can a country experience so much trauma from gun violence and still do nothing about it?
How is this over MLP??? that seems like the last thing that mattered in this situation
22:00 bro did not watch the video
@@narwhalguy3829 keep it a buck tho, lil bro was crazy before the MLP, the fact he liked MLP had little/nothing to do with the fact he was crazy
@@bagwithmilk no shit dude, watching a kids show is not a mental illness
@@narwhalguy3829 bro is fighting with himself at this point. You just said I was wrong and didn't watch the video now you're in violent agreement with me.
The title says he murdered over MLP but my point is that it wasn't over MLP it was over the fact that his life was already fucked.
That AR didn't even have a single accessory on that list on it......
imagine thinking theres no god and these murderers can get away this easy better than lifetime prison lol
arent you also the cause of death for thousands of god created creatures
@pukei this guy, hitler and the rest of these scumbags since the start of humanity won. its crazy when karma exists in this world and thats just one of the small signs. use ur brilliant brain for once
@WhatEver-tx7px in Quran, Allah said we can kill animal for survival(hunger or dangerous) but in non cruel way of slaughter. Our prophet muhammad said treat animal like u treat a human being, so if u kill animal for fun its the same as u kill a human being
@@DashingMusthofa1 muhammad also did the deed with little kids so there is that
@WhatEver-tx7px also in islam if u kill an animal kill it asap dont make it suffer even just a little
those calls where so brutal to listen to... faaark man.
20 years ago this would've been a national disaster that would've been talked about for years, like Columbine. I've never even heard of this dude. That's some perspective.
He didn't shoot up a school, and he mostly killed adults. There are a ton of differences in these cases other than the fact one happened 20+ years ago. There were 2 columbine shooters, they had a manifesto, there was video of the actual shooting, it happened to children, they killers were both children unlike this dude who was a grown man etc.
The list goes on. Correlation is not causation.
There is also the fact that people like to blame violent games or music, that couldn't be done here because it was MLP. Whereas Christians used the Columbine incident to attempt to try to cancel Sabbath and Manson, again, drawing more attention to it.
And not sure how you haven't heard of this dude.. but you not hearing about something doesn't change anything. Personally I heard about this awhile ago and I don't even live in the US, so not sure where you've been.
@@FoxExcess I've been too busy hearing about all the other mass shootings. I don't know about him because I've literally lost track of them.
Everyone is blaming the mom, however I don think that's the main or only reason. The entire system surrounding mental health and guns in the USA is fucked, She took him to counselors and psych doctors multiple times, had the police involved as well, the enforcers of the red flag laws took him and then released him 2 hours later, the kid himself told the doctors he was a danger to society, yet the doctors did not notify authorities to take his guns, they did nothing and by the sounds of it the mother had to really fight with the system to just get her son seen by psychologists.. The police who enforced red flag laws released him 2 hours later and gave the guns back as well, despite knowing was disturbed and was looking up mass shootings. This goes to show that laws don't work if not enforced properly, which is hard to do here since we're so pro 2nd amendment, despite the devastating loss of life carried out by these maniacs.
That mom raised a killer 100%
Some people just shouldn't have kids
IDK if everyone made the right conclusion... so many people calling him a bitch ass and so on. I mean, don't get me wrong, there is almost nothing worse than killing a bunch of innocent people, and that's a horrible tragedy. But there were multiple mistakes made along the way. I won't go into whether mental illness is congenital or acquired through trauma, that's an interesting topic for another discussion, I just mean if we're stuck with what he had, people still fucked up multiple times. His mother was kinda neglectful, so that might have added to his depression, plus she fucking bought him a gun when she clearly knew he had issues and tried to stab her with a knife. The "psychiatrist" who didn't even evaluate a guy with such a backstory and more red flags than the entire USSR and just let him go, that dude should get fired and possibly sued. I guess, the point of the case is that mental illness is the scariest thing in the world. Calling the killer a bitch does not necessarily make harmless people with depression or whatever feel better. Obviously, murder is horrible, and any killer like that is/was a bad person, but I'd rather ask the question like "what made him so bad?" I don't wanna get overly cringy and say "society" or whatever, but let's be fair: people kinda helped. Not the innocent ones he murdered, but just in general. When we're talking about mental health issues, we can never know for sure what's going on inside someone's head. Like, a lot of people have issues, maybe even all of us in some capacity, but the actual psychos who went and murdered people or something like that usually got pushed by someone or something. Who knows, maybe something his mom said to him was the last straw... maybe something else. If a person has mental illness, anything could be the defining factor. Just a random "you're worthless" from a stranger might do it, let alone a friend or a relative. IDK if this essay makes sense, I'm just saying it's not a joke matter at all
"Certain groups have a higher percent of deviancy." That could apply to many groups these days, but I prefer not to speak; if I do, I get in trouble.
you understand that you are way more likely to hear about deviancy from smaller groups, like LGBTQ+, than you are from larger groups?
@@skitl8098 is the lgbt a small group? it seems huge nowadays
@@fishfingers9205it’s not
@@fishfingers9205 in comparison to the straight majority yeah
pepeLaugh trains pepeLaugh 🪥🐶
" I hope that I can be with applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her. If there's no afterlife and she isn't real then my life never mattered anyway." Hooollllyyy shit!!!
I like have a mother didn’t take any responsibility
i worked there 3 days. I even talked to someone about it and the location does not care. To this day you still can not bring phones in. I quit and never looked backed. That location needs policy changes or just shut down
The mother should be charged with assisted suicide.
even if she didn't buy him a gun, he still went ahead and bought 2 more guns. it was inevitable at that point.
@@wrx1th873 I'm talking about the father
@@thanasis-_- she should be charged because someone threatened her with suicide if she didn't do what he wanted? makes sense tbh bro
@@brave1 saying "go ahead" to someone who is about to commit suicide is enabling the action.
@@thanasis-_- so is threatening suicide for personal gain somehow better than someone responding go ahead to it? anyone who threatens suicide is disgusting
Imagine losing crucial seconds in a 911 dispatch because they’re forced to ask if anyone is experiencing Covid-19 or flu-like symptoms 😷 unbelievable
It’s crazy that someone can say they feel bad for victims and if they did then do something horrific like that