Well, I finally got around to making a new video. Very sorry for the extended delay, work and life have a funny habit of getting in the way. Regardless I'd like to thank all of the new subscribers, I'm delighted and grateful to see so many of you showing support to the channel. I'm still as busy as always but it won't be anywhere near as long till part two is done, and I have lots more videos in the pipeline too, so watch this space for more arty content in the near future!
Superb in both commentary and choice of paintings and other images. Thank you for this. The background music was a little loud and I found it distracting.
Since there was a need for a change in traditional art, there has been questions on modern art. In Picasso, it is possible to see that he has skill, however he looked to another culture to gain expression in his art. African masks enabled him to proceed, with cubism . Western Art is based on a single viewpoint and this has now changed. Picasso has influenced many artists and yet we are often wondering about the direction... is it skill or creative inventiveness that is the direction?
As with most things in life I'd say the answer is somewhere in the middle. Technical skill will never become unnecessary, but the creative side is needed as well if we are to avoid artwork which is simply technically proficient without any greater goals. Might sound like a cop out but I don't think it's one or the other, it's one guided by the other
I can remember as a kid being bewildered by other kids who had obvious 'artistic talent' but who had no apparent impulse to creativity - everything they did was copied. I, on the other hand, had creative impulse, I think, but lacked natural talent. I had slightly more ability than the average kid, but was always outshone (and rightly so) by kids with real talent. Now, one of those kids who I regarded as skilled but not creative went on to have a successful career producing art that I admire, so ... I don't know ... !
Sad to say, famous and wealthier artist now a days doing shits on the canvas to earn money. No talents, no feelings, just business. Poor people believing that those shits were an art😢
Re: Les Demoiselles d'Avignon. It seemed kind of an unexplained jump to fear of VD (i.e., STD). You didn't provide any basis for that interpretation - yes, there was a medical student in the sketch, but he didn't make the final cut, so .... Thanks for the fine work, though, once again!
Bit of a jump perhaps but I found that aspect interesting even if it's less present in the final works. The scene Picasso was part of in Paris is pretty interesting, want to get into it more in the future
Thanks, and yes you're quite right, music was a mistake! I stopped using it in hte more recent videos, as you say its just distracting. Cheers for the feedback !
@@eg7748 no not really, other artist started painting garbage after they saw what he got away with, now it's no longer contemporary and it looks primitive.
I regret coming to this party late. And I'm disappointed that you so neatly skipped over the suicide of his best friend, Casagemas. The tragedy that started Picasso's blue period and what I think informed his art for the rest of his life.
Funny you should say that, I thought so too but when I showed the video to some people without music they all said I should add it. I'll reconsider in future, definitely don't want it to be distracting!
I read a very intetesting essay on Les Demoiselles d'Avignon from the perspective of gender, sexuality and race. www.mutualart.com/Article/New-encounters-with-Les-Demoiselles-d-Av/118A54476A6970D0 I found this article interesting and posting it because, blieve you me, as a female, albiet novice, viewer my genuine emotional response did not really match up to everything that is said or written about it - it wasn't feeling distirbed due to horror or shock or fear or appreciating innovation, it somehow made me a feel a bit pissed coz it seemed stale and cliche in a fancy style, overall irritating - I chalked it up to me being a novice & not understanding art properly - yet, while reading the article I realised my response wasn't really because of my limited understanding of art, but my subjective position as a female viewer. It is the male gaze that was so stale, coz I have experienced that gaze on myself all my life and identified it in the painting, though unconsciously.
Thanks for sharing that essay, some very interesting points in there. In terms of viewing art and feeling a disjoint between what is said and what you're reaction to it is I definitely would not discount you're reaction as being that of a "novice" or not getting it. What you feel when looking at an artwork is just as valid as anyone else's reactions to it, otherwise artworks become cultural monoliths that are for all intents and purposes dead to us, rather than living works we can engage with. With Picasso's works in particular I can definitely see how people could find them stale or irritating today. Picasso comes from a different era and hes deeply involved with the traditions of masculinity that are crucial to Spanish culture. Seeing them today when we're in the process of reappraising a lot of this stuff it's not surprising they would piss people off, but I think that's more valuable overall than treating them as sacred cows we cannot criticize.
@@theartshole311 We can't put ourselves back in the time when any piece of art was produced so cannot feel what a contemporary of the artist would have felt on a first or second viewing. It's like reading Hemingway now - a first reaction might be, "What's the big deal? I've read hundreds of authors who write like that!"; we can't grasp what it would have felt like to someone raised on Victorian literature, even readers of the early experimental Modernist stuff, to read Hemingway when it was new. In fact, on this page on my screen right now, there is an ad with an ultimately-Picasso-inspired little sketch of a bear on it - we're so familiar with his 'vision(s)' now that we just can't feel what it meant when it was new. Btw, I would think that if anything, Desmoiselles subverts 'the male gaze'.
A nice introduction to some of Picasso's early work and the sources of his inspiration -but the presenter's pronunciation of non-English words [e.g., Ambrose Vollard and Musée de l'Homme] is at times unintelligible, unnecessarily limiting the value of his informed talk.
@@theartshole311 Came back to this channel a few months later while working on a paper for that same university (I got in!) and stumbled upon my own comment, so just felt like showing some appreciation again. Your stuff has helped a very stressed student get into academia hahaa
If you have to tell, explain, or otherwise "persuade" the audience or individual about Understanding Modern Art then that body of ART work is not ART to that degree. If it does not communicate on its own to the audience or individual through its body of work as intended on its own then the artists have failed to communicate effectively enough through their chosen medium what those artists wanted to communicate, express, exude Etc... By all means study, research, Etc... to gain the full benefits of a body of work or a work of art. There is a fundamental flaw in the ART world that you need or have to tell, explain, or otherwise "persuade" the audience or individual.
I'd agree that good art tends to be somewhat intuitive but there often is so much more that's not evident to us now when we look at artworks from even a century ago.Things that were happening at the time that influenced artists, social or political trends, cultural developments, etc that all play a part in the creation of art that when understood can help us enjoy the art all the more. Just my two cents as it were, not trying to influence per say, just add a wider context, thanks for the comment!
@@theartshole311 the galleries told the people that if they liked picasso, it was because their more sophisticated and had finer taste and more contemporary. Off course that's what they wanted to hear. Picasso is dated now and it's not holding up.
@@47fortyseven47 my toilet is holding up too. It's unique because I used it, it's a one of a kind. I call it art too. Sell it to you for the bargain price of $1,600.
Yes...but what if a "mind" is just not ready to grasp the reality that the artist is presenting? Does that invalidate it. There are plenty of people who have taken ayahuasca and talk about journeys into geometric realities. Now of course if you haven't experienced that--you might think they're insane. But that doesn't invalidate their experience. Just as a lack of sight or insight on the viewers part does not invalidate Picasso's work.
If you eventually manage to find them, please let me know I'd really like to find such types of artists too, but it seems is almost impossible nowadays!
They may be hard to find - if they're real artists, as opposed to the myriad of poseurs - because they are in their studios or garrets or mother's basements working on their art. But they, along with the poseurs, may appear at gallery openings, book launches, and readings ....
Love the vids but this one has the background [lift music] overpowering...spoiling the whole work...In my 67 years opinion...I've heard much worse but, the sentiment is too obvious to ignore....Love always
Apologies, I used to use music since it seemed to be the done thing, I stopped using it as its hard to find anything suitable and hard enough to understand me at times anyway
AVYNO, es una calle de Barcelona, donde hay una Escuela de Arte, donde estudió Arte Picasso, antes de irse a París. Su padre trabajaba en esa escuela. En esa calle, que está enclavada en la zona antigua de Barcelona, con calles de piedra y edificios de pierdra, y muy estrechas. En la calle AVYNO, había burdeles, puesta ducha calle está muy cerca del puerto, donde iban los marineros, y Picasso utilizó a prostitutas de un burdel de la calle AVYNO, para pintar el cuadro. Nada que ver con AVIGNON, ( Francia ). Sería interesante, que se leyesen la biografía de Picasso, donde viene todo explicado. Todo el mundo dice " Las señoritas de Avignon " , cuando es totalmente incorrecto. He pasado muchas veces por la calle Avyno y hasta me he examinado en la misma escuela, donde estudió Picasso. 👍👍👍👍👍
Sorry, think I messed up with this one. I'm trying to figure out how to swap the audio track so I can boost the volume and get rid of the music. Thanks for letting me know, I'll try to sort it out
Well, I finally got around to making a new video. Very sorry for the extended delay, work and life have a funny habit of getting in the way. Regardless I'd like to thank all of the new subscribers, I'm delighted and grateful to see so many of you showing support to the channel. I'm still as busy as always but it won't be anywhere near as long till part two is done, and I have lots more videos in the pipeline too, so watch this space for more arty content in the near future!
Picasso visited England once, in 1938. 'To see what my work looks like when it goes wrong.'
Lol, what a savage Picasso could be
Totally enjoyed the lecture, enlightening. Thx sherren
I am absolutely loving your videos! I'm learning such alot they are in depth and informative. I hope there is many more to come. Thank you
Thanks! glad to hear you enjoy them, and yes there are more on the way
Superb in both commentary and choice of paintings and other images. Thank you for this.
The background music was a little loud and I found it distracting.
Wow Amazing video
Thanks!
Just found your vids I really admire and appreciate the work you put in and your amazing script!!
Thanks! Glad you like them
Salamat po
Thank you for your explanation on cubism...
Since there was a need for a change in traditional art, there has been questions on modern art. In Picasso, it is possible to see that he has skill, however he looked to another culture to gain expression in his art. African masks enabled him to proceed, with cubism . Western Art is based on a single viewpoint and this has now changed. Picasso has influenced many artists and yet we are often wondering about the direction... is it skill or creative inventiveness that is the direction?
As with most things in life I'd say the answer is somewhere in the middle. Technical skill will never become unnecessary, but the creative side is needed as well if we are to avoid artwork which is simply technically proficient without any greater goals. Might sound like a cop out but I don't think it's one or the other, it's one guided by the other
@@theartshole311 wonder if your an artist yourself. picasso wasn't exceptionally talented as a oil painter.
I can remember as a kid being bewildered by other kids who had obvious 'artistic talent' but who had no apparent impulse to creativity - everything they did was copied. I, on the other hand, had creative impulse, I think, but lacked natural talent. I had slightly more ability than the average kid, but was always outshone (and rightly so) by kids with real talent. Now, one of those kids who I regarded as skilled but not creative went on to have a successful career producing art that I admire, so ... I don't know ... !
Sad to say, famous and wealthier artist now a days doing shits on the canvas to earn money. No talents, no feelings, just business. Poor people believing that those shits were an art😢
Excellent video, thanks so much for the great content
Glad you enjoyed it!
Re: Les Demoiselles d'Avignon. It seemed kind of an unexplained jump to fear of VD (i.e., STD). You didn't provide any basis for that interpretation - yes, there was a medical student in the sketch, but he didn't make the final cut, so .... Thanks for the fine work, though, once again!
Bit of a jump perhaps but I found that aspect interesting even if it's less present in the final works. The scene Picasso was part of in Paris is pretty interesting, want to get into it more in the future
Love what you are doing with these videos but please could you kill, or at least tone down, the background music it detracts from your commentary!
Thanks, and yes you're quite right, music was a mistake! I stopped using it in hte more recent videos, as you say its just distracting. Cheers for the feedback !
True artists see letters and numbers interact like no other
5:41 - 6:05
I know what great means...but what does the greatest mean in the art world? Greater than all the rest? who says?
His influence in other artists and movements maybe helps
@@eg7748 no not really, other artist started painting garbage after they saw what he got away with, now it's no longer contemporary and it looks primitive.
I regret coming to this party late. And I'm disappointed that you so neatly skipped over the suicide of his best friend, Casagemas. The tragedy that started Picasso's blue period and what I think informed his art for the rest of his life.
Drop the music please
i enjoy your lectures, but feel you should lose the distracting background music, your voice is music enough...
Funny you should say that, I thought so too but when I showed the video to some people without music they all said I should add it. I'll reconsider in future, definitely don't want it to be distracting!
" LAS SEÑORITAS DE AVYNO ". AVIYNO is one street de Barcelona. Not is Avignon, is AVYNO , SPAIN , no France. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the correction!
I read a very intetesting essay on Les Demoiselles d'Avignon from the perspective of gender, sexuality and race.
www.mutualart.com/Article/New-encounters-with-Les-Demoiselles-d-Av/118A54476A6970D0
I found this article interesting and posting it because, blieve you me, as a female, albiet novice, viewer my genuine emotional response did not really match up to everything that is said or written about it - it wasn't feeling distirbed due to horror or shock or fear or appreciating innovation, it somehow made me a feel a bit pissed coz it seemed stale and cliche in a fancy style, overall irritating - I chalked it up to me being a novice & not understanding art properly - yet, while reading the article I realised my response wasn't really because of my limited understanding of art, but my subjective position as a female viewer. It is the male gaze that was so stale, coz I have experienced that gaze on myself all my life and identified it in the painting, though unconsciously.
Thanks for sharing that essay, some very interesting points in there. In terms of viewing art and feeling a disjoint between what is said and what you're reaction to it is I definitely would not discount you're reaction as being that of a "novice" or not getting it. What you feel when looking at an artwork is just as valid as anyone else's reactions to it, otherwise artworks become cultural monoliths that are for all intents and purposes dead to us, rather than living works we can engage with. With Picasso's works in particular I can definitely see how people could find them stale or irritating today. Picasso comes from a different era and hes deeply involved with the traditions of masculinity that are crucial to Spanish culture. Seeing them today when we're in the process of reappraising a lot of this stuff it's not surprising they would piss people off, but I think that's more valuable overall than treating them as sacred cows we cannot criticize.
@@theartshole311 We can't put ourselves back in the time when any piece of art was produced so cannot feel what a contemporary of the artist would have felt on a first or second viewing. It's like reading Hemingway now - a first reaction might be, "What's the big deal? I've read hundreds of authors who write like that!"; we can't grasp what it would have felt like to someone raised on Victorian literature, even readers of the early experimental Modernist stuff, to read Hemingway when it was new. In fact, on this page on my screen right now, there is an ad with an ultimately-Picasso-inspired little sketch of a bear on it - we're so familiar with his 'vision(s)' now that we just can't feel what it meant when it was new. Btw, I would think that if anything, Desmoiselles subverts 'the male gaze'.
A nice introduction to some of Picasso's early work and the sources of his inspiration -but the presenter's pronunciation of non-English words [e.g., Ambrose Vollard and Musée de l'Homme] is at times unintelligible, unnecessarily limiting the value of his informed talk.
I Todd Mcfarlane art better, also Jack Kirby, Rob Leifeld are more awesome than picasso.
Lol, Rob Leifeld has a certain charm I must admit
Hmm... African Mask. Wrong inspiration buddy. but you got benefit of doubt and place.
Whoops, what did i get wrong? If its something egregious let me know and ill try to make some sort of amendment
@@theartshole311 I guess it wasn't egregious ... !
Got a Art History uni entrance exam and you might be saving my life. These are gems, thank you!
You welcome, glad it's a help. Best of luck with your exam!
@@theartshole311 Came back to this channel a few months later while working on a paper for that same university (I got in!) and stumbled upon my own comment, so just felt like showing some appreciation again. Your stuff has helped a very stressed student get into academia hahaa
That's great, glad to hear you got in! Always nice to hear the videos were useful
If you have to tell, explain, or otherwise "persuade" the audience or individual about Understanding Modern Art then that body of ART work is not ART to that degree. If it does not communicate on its own to the audience or individual through its body of work as intended on its own then the artists have failed to communicate effectively enough through their chosen medium what those artists wanted to communicate, express, exude Etc... By all means study, research, Etc... to gain the full benefits of a body of work or a work of art. There is a fundamental flaw in the ART world that you need or have to tell, explain, or otherwise "persuade" the audience or individual.
I'd agree that good art tends to be somewhat intuitive but there often is so much more that's not evident to us now when we look at artworks from even a century ago.Things that were happening at the time that influenced artists, social or political trends, cultural developments, etc that all play a part in the creation of art that when understood can help us enjoy the art all the more. Just my two cents as it were, not trying to influence per say, just add a wider context, thanks for the comment!
@@theartshole311 the galleries told the people that if they liked picasso, it was because their more sophisticated and had finer taste and more contemporary. Off course that's what they wanted to hear.
Picasso is dated now and it's not holding up.
@@luismangiaterra1031 I'd say the cubism looks dated but everything else holds up really well
@@47fortyseven47 my toilet is holding up too. It's unique because I used it, it's a one of a kind.
I call it art too.
Sell it to you for the bargain price of $1,600.
Yes...but what if a "mind" is just not ready to grasp the reality that the artist is presenting? Does that invalidate it. There are plenty of people who have taken ayahuasca and talk about journeys into geometric realities. Now of course if you haven't experienced that--you might think they're insane. But that doesn't invalidate their experience. Just as a lack of sight or insight on the viewers part does not invalidate Picasso's work.
Please someone tell me how to find bohemian artist type people
If you eventually manage to find them, please let me know
I'd really like to find such types of artists too, but it seems is almost impossible nowadays!
They may be hard to find - if they're real artists, as opposed to the myriad of poseurs - because they are in their studios or garrets or mother's basements working on their art. But they, along with the poseurs, may appear at gallery openings, book launches, and readings ....
@@nozecone so I guess you must know some?
@@harrymears1623 ... uh ... yeah ..........
@@nozecone wow how is it to be cool?
Cezanne, van Gogh, Picasso Leger, de Kooning earth SHAKING.
It's Gertrude Stein, not pronounced like Steen.
Too much time with only one paint 😔
Love the vids but this one has the background [lift music] overpowering...spoiling the whole work...In my 67 years opinion...I've heard much worse but, the sentiment is too obvious to ignore....Love always
Apologies, I used to use music since it seemed to be the done thing, I stopped using it as its hard to find anything suitable and hard enough to understand me at times anyway
Great Art lesson!
AVYNO, es una calle de Barcelona, donde hay una Escuela de Arte, donde estudió Arte Picasso, antes de irse a París. Su padre trabajaba en esa escuela. En esa calle, que está enclavada en la zona antigua de Barcelona, con calles de piedra y edificios de pierdra, y muy estrechas. En la calle AVYNO, había burdeles, puesta ducha calle está muy cerca del puerto, donde iban los marineros, y Picasso utilizó a prostitutas de un burdel de la calle AVYNO, para pintar el cuadro. Nada que ver con AVIGNON, ( Francia ). Sería interesante, que se leyesen la biografía de Picasso, donde viene todo explicado. Todo el mundo dice " Las señoritas de Avignon " , cuando es totalmente incorrecto. He pasado muchas veces por la calle Avyno y hasta me he examinado en la misma escuela, donde estudió Picasso. 👍👍👍👍👍
Volume is very low. Can’t really hear anything.
Sorry, think I messed up with this one. I'm trying to figure out how to swap the audio track so I can boost the volume and get rid of the music. Thanks for letting me know, I'll try to sort it out
More! Informative, much appreciated since I'm seeing a Picasso exhibit in two days. So excited! Can't wait for part two.
Glad you liked it, hope you enjoyed the exhibit!
What information or disinformation, and what's so exiting about it?
Is there a text version of this video? Share the link please
That is something I need to sort out, Leave it with me and i'll post a link when I can
Good video but please get rid of the music or talk louder.
Thanks, will do. Think this was the last one to use music anyway, I'm hard enough to understand as it is
Its all in the "Sagrada Biblia"