I got Odin a few days ago. The way I use him is in guild siege and guild battles with a rage and will with atk/cd/atk with 67 cr because I use his lead and then I maximize cd. I use him with Chloe and Kahli. first Chloe buffs, then Kahli and then Odin have 5 stacks and one-shots something (now has 3 stacks again) --> then Kahli one shots something else and now Odin have 5 stacks to one shot another enemy potentially on his turn again. Really nice combo in my opinion!
Oh nice, I'm building a hella safe comp with Odin ( Shield Will Blade ), Katarina ( Rage Will with high cd n atk plus 40cr%) Qebehsenuef (Swift Will). It's been working pretty well in Conqueror tiered guild war xD as I'm lacking good ragewill runeset for him
Preach Bagel! I recently got Geldnir and Bethony. You can guess who is getting that 6 star and rune focus first. If he had more on his only active skill, like more hp based damage and something like a silence or attack bar decrease. All he really has going for him is his leader skill since his stacks get consumed so damn fast for the type of passive he has. I'd even throw out the idea of having him increase attack bar at full stacks by a small amount of the monster that was damaged, or put a slow on the monster doing the damage. His passive really needs more, or his first skill needs something interesting. His passive does essentially the same thing as dias or darion, but since he heals after the damage is done the units can be killed without his effect taking place. He has the complete opposite of a bloated kit, he needs a major buff. I know I may not have the best ideas, but I know he needs SOMETHING. Also, 21:26
Btw right in time, I just got Odin, I started building him with Rage Blade Spd Cd Atk, but then I tried him on Vio Will Atk CD Atk with an atb manipulation team (like Wedjet, Light harg and so on) and I like him much more, cause when he procs, whether he has 5 stacks or not, he will deal a huge amount of dmg, with more occasions to kill, which means more stacks Edit: I decided to finally build Elsharion to use with Odin, with a lot of buffs not only odin gets stacks but Elsharion gets dmg, a lot of dmg and he has Def break which can be used by all the team, odin too when he doesn't have 5 stacks, but the stacks just stack so fast that I think is not even needed
I just got my Herteit yesterday! I shouldn't have, but summoned while driving. I said, there won't be lightning anyways (but there was), then i said it'll be a hoh or dupe, no way it's a nat5 (but it was) I always figured if i got another ld nat 5 it would be another Nigong (it wasn't) Anyway, thanks for the vid, now to find/steal the runes
21:36 has +126 speed "a little on the slower side" good god man thats faster then pretty much everything i have... only my bernard beats that by like 5.
hmmm trying to theorycraft geldnir, I think he's pretty good with units that can self buff like maybe rakan, theo (via endure but that's unreliable), there's also Feng Yan and Mi Ying (Dark Panda) and to a lesser extent, the fire neostone agents. I'd imagine these units would love to have him with that juicy spd lead
I use Odin alot in rta and AO. Best combos with him are with water horus and Amelia for Amelias passive with imm and then 3 stacks on water horus and he does 33k ign def with fatal/will speed, CD%, attk%
I'd imagine you'd probably want more defense on herteit maybe sacrificing a bit of hp or atk but since your stealing the defense will help a lot in him surviving and making enemies easier to kill. Maybe that's just me though
He steals att and deff based on his base stats. So max att he'll steal (2x5 knowledge= 125%x2=250%) is somewhere around 2100 and he'll steal about 1600 def. Notes: Max stack for him is 10 times! so he can weaken the whole team of enemies, but his stack wont excede 10 att and def buffs.
2 questions: 1 would you happen to know the benefits of ruining bolverk atk/spd crit damage attack, 2: does wind snipers passive cast glancing on someone when they attack him, how does that work with his passive
I think people miss the point of Geldnir; lemme explain: he could be used alongside a neutral element monster that is capable of a reasonable amount of dmg without being squishy, for instance the Dark and Light Chimeras, in particular a bulky Zeratu on Vampire, Zeratu could just kill everyone by himself if he has enough hp to take the hits, if you throw in a def break and Geldnir keeps the dps input low, youre team is nearly immortal in the first turns But you could use any bulky dps, not only Zeratu, Rakkan is another good example, Odin too and so on (your Perna example is perfect tho) The problem is that there is no space for compromises, you need a goddamn op team with op runes, his utility curve increases exponentially although at the beginning is just plain useless
i got him and he is pretty useless. you can only use him if u got a huge buffer team and are fighting against a buffer team. For example Feng, Geldnir and Amelia against woosa or something. In my opinions is even colleen better than him. ^^
@@p4dd1665 saying that colleen is better than him is like saying that Odin does more damage than Teshar just because you test them on Feng Yen without atk up and def break I believe you if you say that he's not useful, but I also believe that in the current state of the game ,Geldnir , can go full stacks on turn 1 and in any other turn in no time, using that 70% heal back It is true that if they oneshot you is not useful, but the current meta is based mainly on tanky monsters, something like ritesh (or any other beast monk, pioneer, valkyries, etc..) would be almost unkillable With some superficial heal your team is gonna be so damn tankier This is all hypothetical since I don't have him, but it is very realistic
@@p4dd1665 although I think that a buff would be damn fair But personally I would pair him with my wedjet (atb + def up + anti-crit) and that's just a bomb
Shizo, i have one question, if we runed Odin like a fast lushen, didnt better set up some lushen to use with megan/bastet ?? or depend from situation, i mean is Odin good for rta only ? Cuz other situation i think lushen will be better cuz of aoe ignore def?
I am not good at strategy or proper runing and need help so of course I usually get new monsters only early after release and have no fricking clue what to do with them. I have the wind water and fire lightening dudes and couldnt build them until recently lol
Why do u want Baleygr faster than Kat if he's dmg output increases as the enemy hp decreases? Ideally Kat would go first, lower boss hp just to Baleygr finish off
jewbagel important question!!! my splendid blessing popped today and the choice is bastet or rakan, neither of which are dupes? who the frick do i choose?
I'm glad bolverk can't kill with his galder skill. It means mo long HAS to go second in that combo, and he cannot be healed if he reckless' after bolverk moves
Bolverks AI is dumpsterfire so I do not recommend using him on defenses like ever. Unless you wanna use him as a stripper kind of cause he does strip on glance with his auto. I rock bolverk Amelia +1 for GWO and I’ve never lost with it. Too good
He scales with his base stats. He can steal the most around 2100 att and 1600 def. He can weaken multiple mobs, but he himself cant buff past his max stacks.
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I got Odin a few days ago. The way I use him is in guild siege and guild battles with a rage and will with atk/cd/atk with 67 cr because I use his lead and then I maximize cd. I use him with Chloe and Kahli. first Chloe buffs, then Kahli and then Odin have 5 stacks and one-shots something (now has 3 stacks again) --> then Kahli one shots something else and now Odin have 5 stacks to one shot another enemy potentially on his turn again. Really nice combo in my opinion!
Oh nice, I'm building a hella safe comp with Odin ( Shield Will Blade ), Katarina ( Rage Will with high cd n atk plus 40cr%)
Qebehsenuef (Swift Will). It's been working pretty well in Conqueror tiered guild war xD as I'm lacking good ragewill runeset for him
I use mine with Fran. My team is Odin chloe fran
i do the same and he hit for 53k , i dont understand why jewbagel is not talking about a slow odin build for guild wars
@@cedlvl4481 Yes that's what I was thinking! He can work pretty well while being slow with the right team
@@ReaperGR1M That's also pretty good team! but if you replace fran with kahli you will have more stack rotation this way
12:00 thats me right there lol he's my first l&d nat 5 and I've been playing since 2015 (BUFF MY GELDNIR COM2US PLEASE)
He was also my first ld nat 5 and I got him from wish
Preach Bagel! I recently got Geldnir and Bethony. You can guess who is getting that 6 star and rune focus first. If he had more on his only active skill, like more hp based damage and something like a silence or attack bar decrease. All he really has going for him is his leader skill since his stacks get consumed so damn fast for the type of passive he has. I'd even throw out the idea of having him increase attack bar at full stacks by a small amount of the monster that was damaged, or put a slow on the monster doing the damage. His passive really needs more, or his first skill needs something interesting. His passive does essentially the same thing as dias or darion, but since he heals after the damage is done the units can be killed without his effect taking place. He has the complete opposite of a bloated kit, he needs a major buff. I know I may not have the best ideas, but I know he needs SOMETHING. Also, 21:26
Btw right in time, I just got Odin, I started building him with Rage Blade Spd Cd Atk, but then I tried him on Vio Will Atk CD Atk with an atb manipulation team (like Wedjet, Light harg and so on) and I like him much more, cause when he procs, whether he has 5 stacks or not, he will deal a huge amount of dmg, with more occasions to kill, which means more stacks
Edit: I decided to finally build Elsharion to use with Odin, with a lot of buffs not only odin gets stacks but Elsharion gets dmg, a lot of dmg and he has Def break which can be used by all the team, odin too when he doesn't have 5 stacks, but the stacks just stack so fast that I think is not even needed
Finally!!!!!! After you did my Hostile take over i pulled double Odin! Mine is already similar :D Awesome vid as always JB!
Thank you Jewbs Herteit is my second LD nat 5 and I couldn't figure out the best build for him. This vid helps a ton.
yay now i know how to rune odin on my alt acc with 0 runes :D
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2:27 ( raise ✋ ) I have it 😁 Thanks for the video
really struggling with putting runes on my herteit. i don’t exactly have runes like that lying around :p
I just got my Herteit yesterday! I shouldn't have, but summoned while driving. I said, there won't be lightning anyways (but there was), then i said it'll be a hoh or dupe, no way it's a nat5 (but it was) I always figured if i got another ld nat 5 it would be another Nigong (it wasn't) Anyway, thanks for the vid, now to find/steal the runes
21:36 has +126 speed "a little on the slower side" good god man thats faster then pretty much everything i have... only my bernard beats that by like 5.
hmmm trying to theorycraft geldnir, I think he's pretty good with units that can self buff like maybe rakan, theo (via endure but that's unreliable), there's also Feng Yan and Mi Ying (Dark Panda) and to a lesser extent, the fire neostone agents. I'd imagine these units would love to have him with that juicy spd lead
Talk about my Odin! Was about to search it with How To Series of Jewbagel, perfect timing.
Bolverk sitting in storage (have other nat 5s to rune first)... This came at the right time haha
got one today thank you for the tips to build him
I use Odin alot in rta and AO. Best combos with him are with water horus and Amelia for Amelias passive with imm and then 3 stacks on water horus and he does 33k ign def with fatal/will speed, CD%, attk%
I'd imagine you'd probably want more defense on herteit maybe sacrificing a bit of hp or atk but since your stealing the defense will help a lot in him surviving and making enemies easier to kill. Maybe that's just me though
He steals att and deff based on his base stats. So max att he'll steal (2x5 knowledge= 125%x2=250%) is somewhere around 2100 and he'll steal about 1600 def. Notes: Max stack for him is 10 times! so he can weaken the whole team of enemies, but his stack wont excede 10 att and def buffs.
my 6day old acct got odin so sad with no runes to work with.. at least now i know which runes to give him thanks bagel!
I still watch this even though i dont have any lighting emperors .
Same
Not a good idea for me as a early game player to fuss the fire one, if I struggle to do fast GB10
2 questions: 1 would you happen to know the benefits of ruining bolverk atk/spd crit damage attack, 2: does wind snipers passive cast glancing on someone when they attack him, how does that work with his passive
But why focus on CRI damage when Herteit absorbs attack and defense? His skill don't tell me that its base stats only.
I think people miss the point of Geldnir; lemme explain: he could be used alongside a neutral element monster that is capable of a reasonable amount of dmg without being squishy, for instance the Dark and Light Chimeras, in particular a bulky Zeratu on Vampire, Zeratu could just kill everyone by himself if he has enough hp to take the hits, if you throw in a def break and Geldnir keeps the dps input low, youre team is nearly immortal in the first turns
But you could use any bulky dps, not only Zeratu, Rakkan is another good example, Odin too and so on (your Perna example is perfect tho)
The problem is that there is no space for compromises, you need a goddamn op team with op runes, his utility curve increases exponentially although at the beginning is just plain useless
i got him and he is pretty useless. you can only use him if u got a huge buffer team and are fighting against a buffer team. For example Feng, Geldnir and Amelia against woosa or something. In my opinions is even colleen better than him. ^^
@@p4dd1665 saying that colleen is better than him is like saying that Odin does more damage than Teshar just because you test them on Feng Yen without atk up and def break
I believe you if you say that he's not useful, but I also believe that in the current state of the game ,Geldnir , can go full stacks on turn 1 and in any other turn in no time, using that 70% heal back
It is true that if they oneshot you is not useful, but the current meta is based mainly on tanky monsters, something like ritesh (or any other beast monk, pioneer, valkyries, etc..) would be almost unkillable
With some superficial heal your team is gonna be so damn tankier
This is all hypothetical since I don't have him, but it is very realistic
@@p4dd1665 although I think that a buff would be damn fair
But personally I would pair him with my wedjet (atb + def up + anti-crit) and that's just a bomb
Hey bagel, I've had a taranys for awhile, could you do a taranys showcase in the future where we can use him best, who he works well with, etc.?
Hey Bagel! Will you do druid soon? would be nice since i like the fact that they morph and go full front :)
Quick question. Water Lightning Emperor or Water Archangel? Got a pick from my blessing.
Shizo, i have one question, if we runed Odin like a fast lushen, didnt better set up some lushen to use with megan/bastet ?? or depend from situation, i mean is Odin good for rta only ? Cuz other situation i think lushen will be better cuz of aoe ignore def?
My bolverk is on will shield revenge and work really fine with woosa
No woosa but mine is the same, I had energy over revenge at first but have learned my lesson
1900 attack, 70 crit with 230 CD...good Lord, ho whom do i have to sell my soul for that? 😂😂
Do you guys think Geldnir Ophilia Theo is a viable siege def if Geldnir is hybrid shield will, fat swift ophilia and solid Theo?
Love these vids. But sad that sometimes when do the Nat 5*. how to rune them so far I have not even one lol.
Does bolverk goes well with Feng Yan? I got them 2 days ago (also with zaiross)
My first ld scroll was hertiet and it was my first nat5 but I don’t think I’m far enough to build him yet I’m only level 16
Hey! I don't understand why we should use will runes in Raid... Can someone explain me?
I'm building my BJ5 team
is it because Baleygr's knowledge ?
As I am watching this, I got 3 nat 5's in 18 scrolls. One of which is Odin.
should i awaken water cannon girl or water lightning emperor
always thought his name was balegyr and not baleygr did they mess it up?
Yeah wtf
wow now im confused which is the correct one
I never understood what's so difficult about the name. Baley-gr like the title says.
@@paulgoogol2652 ah if you check bagel's older video he created a mandela effect by putting "balegyr" in the title
@@awakentheblades now i had to search whats mandela effect is.
I snagged the light lightning warrior a month after light dragon knight. I've used all my Nat five light and dark luck.
Shield will cleave with baly galleon and christina is actually nice. with his lead and attack build christina hits 40k aoe
I build my Odin vamp will for gw with Amelia and chasun it’s a op team
Odin, Bastet, Kahli is a great GWO team
Your stats? Didn't get cut in tho?
I am not good at strategy or proper runing and need help so of course I usually get new monsters only early after release and have no fricking clue what to do with them. I have the wind water and fire lightening dudes and couldnt build them until recently lol
I wonder did you ever get fami or make a video of her she’s the only CRIT DMG leader skill
They are in stone rotation soon (just fyi if anyone want to get bolverk)
can bolverk be used in R5?
Can you do Chimeras
21:29 ah yeah the classic, who doesnt know him
feel like odin is best used on vamp/nem/rev on a bruiser build. built like a chow with a little more att and little less hp.
Why do u want Baleygr faster than Kat if he's dmg output increases as the enemy hp decreases? Ideally Kat would go first, lower boss hp just to Baleygr finish off
@Andrew Underwood got it
I’m lvl 24 now. When do I get the fountain background for profile?
Lucaswolf151 _ you can choose your own background
Violet Untrained Ferret no I can’t I don’t have fountain yet
Nigong needs a buff like crazy.
Did you know that the black lightning emperor is an unfinished sentence? "Her tight..."
jewbagel important question!!! my splendid blessing popped today and the choice is bastet or rakan, neither of which are dupes? who the frick do i choose?
bastet
I would go bastet. I hope you did. She was my first nat five but her s3 is just perfect max skilled with spd hp def I think? Swift will
Does bae need acc for his frist skill
I got herteit from my first ld scroll so happy❤️
Herteit owner lol 👋 you weren't wrong I'm one of those people
druids next? :3
time limit, he rocks even at 5* with some skill ups
I'm glad bolverk can't kill with his galder skill. It means mo long HAS to go second in that combo, and he cannot be healed if he reckless' after bolverk moves
Logan Durham he can. He just needs 5 stacks first.
Guess who has Odin and Heirteit on two different accounts?
Me xD
i runed my odin 2x shield/will atk cd atk its fun for arena chloe,megan,lushen,odin
First poggggg
thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank you!!!!
now it is 4 people watching the herteit runebuild xD have him on asia server and he is great
My Odin is second in monster debate
I would like to say i have Hertit... Just missing the e and its not dark, moreso lighter.... :P
Bolverks AI is dumpsterfire so I do not recommend using him on defenses like ever. Unless you wanna use him as a stripper kind of cause he does strip on glance with his auto. I rock bolverk Amelia +1 for GWO and I’ve never lost with it. Too good
i'm one of this ppl who has light emperor and watch this with hope it useful.... but it useless, sad D:
you should have uploaded this earlier cos I just got water lightning emperor few days ago
well the world just revolves around you doesnt it
woot
bolverg molong woosa is way too op
Thanos op!!
21:27 yes i am
wow so when thanos dies they nerf herteit
My first Nat 5 Geldnir is sooooo gaaaarrrrrrbbbbbbaaaaaaagggggeeee
What are you talking about?🤯
21:30 no
Herteit third skill scales with his atk and def, so spd/cdmg/def is a must with some hp subs
T'was base Atk/Def in the Reddit discussion a month or two ago.
Well it's not really a discusion, that's just how the monster work, also jewbagel didn't mention anything about def
He scales with his base stats. He can steal the most around 2100 att and 1600 def. He can weaken multiple mobs, but he himself cant buff past his max stacks.
Wet chicken sandwich
Not a single herteit joke.... I'm disappointed:p
how to rune thanos and his weaker brothers.... lolz
I'll tell you why you don't see bolverk in defenses.. because he suck. AI is terrible he uses his 3rd skill when he have 2 knowledge which does 0 dmg
I have Thanos 😁
3 years playing the game and spending money and no ld nat 5 lol not even good 3 stars tbh no basault no mantora no lyn lol
2nd!
Thirdddd
I want to do some sort of a check
anyone that got hertiet comment below
*ME
Meee :3
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