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I really don't understand why everyone struggled with banding as a mechanic. Like there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for it in the 4th ed rulebook that came with a starter deck.
I think a large part of it was the prevalence of banding in white, which then got mixed up with flickering effects so your banded creatures were constantly shifting and stuff? I seem to remember a lot of flickering shenanigans, or else my brain invented an entire fugue state to retreat to when banding is mentioned.
@@devinkerr5474 Banding has more to do with attacking since it takes the power of assigning how damage is dealt way from the other player and gives it to the player with the banded units. That is literally all it is.
Fun banding interaction: it gives you the right to assign combat damage instead of your opponent, even on defense - and even with only 1 creature in the band. So, Veggie could tap to give one of his derpy 0/1's banding, assign all the trample damage to the creature and live to flee another day! The turn he dies, he's totally tapped out - but definitely could have been using it defensively earlier on against the overbearing 9/9 trampler. (C'mon guys, it's a simple mechanic!)
Funny enough, this is a very similar edge case to the new Alexios card in Assassin's Creed. If your opponents go around the table choosing to assign all combat damage to each other's blockers and assigning 0 damage to trample through, you can really hose the Alexios player and starve them of combat damage.
If you guys ever wanted to do a special patreon drinking episode, take a drink whenever the following happens: -Someone turns on their co host for little to no reason -Someone says "Notably" -Refers to themselves as "We" (ex. "We're going to go to combat"
40:11 the cursed mirror shouldn't have been able to tap for a red, since Veggie had it become a copy of the overlord, overwriting cursed mirror's other abilities (notably, tapping for mana) until end of turn
veggie not standing by his word is a real dealbreaker for me here. i would be shamed if i did a thing like that in my playgroup and rightfully so. to close on a high note, the dressups are marvelous and thank you all for your work and the good time. best regards from germany.
Honestly kinda confused as to why “say it’s name” isn’t a card like dragon’s approach, did they think the effect was too good to have any number? But that doesn’t make sense either cause all the other ones get better the more there are… Idk
this video literally shows why not, she had a 9/9 on turn 2 my gamer, have a deck thats just Say Its Name forests and the 9/9, turn 2 you aren't to unlikely to mill 2 in addition to the one you played, allowing you to get the /9 and every turn after that you get increasing possibilities to have 3 of them in the yard meaning any removal doesn't matter as they just zoop it back out of the yard. maybe dilute it a tiny bit with some buff spells and its still a consistently better agro deck than even RDW
i believe at 40:14 you cant tap the curse mirror form mana the turn it comes out because it becomes a copy of the creature and doesn't have the mana ability yet ... just something to look out for in the future thanks !
We didn't really get to see it, but the use of banding is really clever. I intend to eventually make a full-on banding deck, but the problem is just that there's not enough effects like helm of Chatzuk to make it consistent. When banding is a mechanic that synergizes with your gameplay, instead of the whole gameplay, you can play with it so much more easily. Good show.
I forget her name, but she's an mtg artist. Seen her booth at magiccon chicago this year and she was selling these playmats. She sells them online too but i think the foil ones are con exclusive ones
My wife and I went to see Beetlejuice and we found it was good not as good as the first one, but it still made us laugh. I love that you guys dress up for the occasion.
35:03 Very small correction: Zimone has an intervening if, so she doesn’t trigger at all. This didn't matter here, but it is relevant if you controlled something like Manabond to put lands into play during the end step
mfw Veggie doesn't know how banding works. You get to decide how damage is divided so you just have had Altanak deal 9 damage to the creature instead of trampling.
40:11 Cursed mirror couldn't make the red. 2021-04-16 While it is copying a creature, Cursed Mirror does not have "Tap: Add Red" (unless the creature it's copying also has that ability).
I like the idea of rule zeroing in multiple copies of Say Its Name but I think for maximum thematic appropriate and challenge, it should be limited to 3 copies.
@@alexhamilton8777 Well there's no special rule on the card itself so it depends on the format. In commander you can only have one copy, so it kinda just sucks without special house rules, and in other formats you can have four copies in your deck.
40:16 It's worth noting here that technically, Veggie DIDN'T attack you once you showed him the spell, he merely expressed intent. In other words, his word was never actually broken. You showed him the spell, and he did not attack. Both of those things remained true in the end. ;)
i think that parting gust could have targeted yorion instead and yorion would have saved nico, the virtue, and bounce many other stuff along with it right?
19:25 Wait, would have it mattered if the thought vessel had been cast before Winter? I assumed no max hand size effect would just ignore winters ability.
If the same static ability influence the same thing only the newest one counts Thought vessel overrides winter but if thought vessel was there first winter would override it
I think it's so funny that regular hosts of commander shows are like always archenemies in their pod. Jimmy and Josh are always after each other on Command Zone and I don't think I've ever seen a Decked Out game where from turn one Nerd Girl and Veggie weren't IMMEDIATELY affixing their crosshairs over one another. I wonder if this is because if they teamed up even sometimes it would feel to regular audience members like they were always teaming up against guests given they are nearly always in the pod of every ep...or maybe it's just that the people you play the most commander with are the people you have the most grudges against, lol.
man, that Beetlejuice card really should have had "You can have up to 3 of these in your deck". Sure it's just a commander line... but it's such a flavor fail in commander.
While this would be a very flavorful use of the text, WotC has never restricted the amount of cards allowed in a deck to less than 4 in formats other than Vintage and Commander. And you only need 3 for the effect, so there's no need for an "any number of copies" clause either
After a quick google it seems simple: basically the band is considered one creature. Unless I misunderstand and you have to block each individual creature normally.
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i love how everyone went for hot goth vibes and then veggie just comes in at the end being an unhinged horror clown
I really feel like it was a going to be a fight for top smoke-show and Veggie went "OOOOR I could channel my inner Miracle Max" 😅
@@cathanbreen5294 With just a little bit of Doc Brown mixed in for good measure
ABSOLUTELY LOVE Nerdgirls makeup this episode!
It is nourishing
Nerd girl is always looking nice to me. I really like her nails as well.
MaldHound's Beetlejuice costume hits different when you notice it still has the tags
I feel like Beetlejuice would wear clothes with tags attached, for the aesthetic.
So you just had to make maldhound hotter?
My desire to play monogreen leaving my body when I see sexy Maldhound.
Maybe it’s just that I was a 2000s emo kid but Maldhound in eyeliner does things to me
But can he get it? 👀👀 *Looking Respectfully*
@@phantasiandreamsexy maldhound can absolutely get it
was literally about to comment the exact same thing 🤣
I really don't understand why everyone struggled with banding as a mechanic. Like there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for it in the 4th ed rulebook that came with a starter deck.
LOL
I think a large part of it was the prevalence of banding in white, which then got mixed up with flickering effects so your banded creatures were constantly shifting and stuff? I seem to remember a lot of flickering shenanigans, or else my brain invented an entire fugue state to retreat to when banding is mentioned.
@@devinkerr5474 Banding has more to do with attacking since it takes the power of assigning how damage is dealt way from the other player and gives it to the player with the banded units. That is literally all it is.
Fun banding interaction: it gives you the right to assign combat damage instead of your opponent, even on defense - and even with only 1 creature in the band. So, Veggie could tap to give one of his derpy 0/1's banding, assign all the trample damage to the creature and live to flee another day! The turn he dies, he's totally tapped out - but definitely could have been using it defensively earlier on against the overbearing 9/9 trampler. (C'mon guys, it's a simple mechanic!)
THANK YOU!! I tend to shoehorn Banding where I can becuase its basically the one way to turn off trample.
Came here to say this. Banding is actually easy to understand though this particular edge case is often missed.
@@gingermcmurray3472 PREACH!
Funny enough, this is a very similar edge case to the new Alexios card in Assassin's Creed. If your opponents go around the table choosing to assign all combat damage to each other's blockers and assigning 0 damage to trample through, you can really hose the Alexios player and starve them of combat damage.
"I can't explain banding to you, it's not possible" Benjamin Wheeler did it in three sentences in Shandalar! With a box of Chaff!
Those Playmats!! Zmain is gothic elegant as ever, but MTGNerdgirl's darkside is badassery! Everyone looks great, great episode.
If you guys ever wanted to do a special patreon drinking episode, take a drink whenever the following happens:
-Someone turns on their co host for little to no reason
-Someone says "Notably"
-Refers to themselves as "We" (ex. "We're going to go to combat"
This does sound like fun... lol
Take a drink when someone says “good time boys” if you feel like partying
Unable to read the board state as I am on the floor
A drink when someone "cracks" something (i.e. uses it)
Maldhound with guyliner… good Lord. Z you are one lucky person.
I thought Veggie was just being Veggie spinning around in the chair until a few seconds later when they talked about their sponsor 😅
Were they related events? Or just serendipity?
I think we all had a moment of wondering what Veggie's bit was this week.
40:11 the cursed mirror shouldn't have been able to tap for a red, since Veggie had it become a copy of the overlord, overwriting cursed mirror's other abilities (notably, tapping for mana) until end of turn
Despite consuming a bunch of Duskmourn content, it wasn't until ZMainCharacter blinked her overlord that I realized they're not legendary lol
maldhound looking FABULOUS. i mean, everyone looks fab. but after seeing mald's bro-ey face in yt shorts i did not expect this vampy look.
"The retaliation"
*collective understanding noises*
I laughed so hard at this 😂
wasn’t expecting to see Maldhound draw a Bidoof
Ikr it looks like a bidoof
veggie not standing by his word is a real dealbreaker for me here. i would be shamed if i did a thing like that in my playgroup and rightfully so. to close on a high note, the dressups are marvelous and thank you all for your work and the good time. best regards from germany.
A fun episode with four great entertainers and appreciable productive effort. Thanks for making these!
Can we all appreciate Z’s fit? Like that hat and contact combo is fucking fire af like yes steal my soul at least you look good doing it 😂😂😂
maldhound looks so hot in this episode i cannot
Oh its just a platypus. PRIMO THE PLATYPUS!
Ah perfect. I can enjoy a fun game and get ideas for my winter deck.
Honestly kinda confused as to why “say it’s name” isn’t a card like dragon’s approach, did they think the effect was too good to have any number? But that doesn’t make sense either cause all the other ones get better the more there are… Idk
Why would it allow any number of copies? You're allowed 4 copies of a card in a constructed deck, and you only need 3 to summon Altanak.
I think the effect would be too strong if you could have any number in commander
She had 9/9 out on turn 2.
Because it'd be too strong, specifically in standard.
this video literally shows why not, she had a 9/9 on turn 2 my gamer, have a deck thats just Say Its Name forests and the 9/9, turn 2 you aren't to unlikely to mill 2 in addition to the one you played, allowing you to get the /9 and every turn after that you get increasing possibilities to have 3 of them in the yard meaning any removal doesn't matter as they just zoop it back out of the yard. maybe dilute it a tiny bit with some buff spells and its still a consistently better agro deck than even RDW
Norin + Call for aid is NASTY as a combo, and I like it
Those playmates are freaking epic
My man MaldHound looking nice today
My favorite part was when NerdGirl said "It's Beetlejuicin' time" and then Beetlejuiced.
It’s Morbin time!
i believe at 40:14 you cant tap the curse mirror form mana the turn it comes out because it becomes a copy of the creature and doesn't have the mana ability yet ... just something to look out for in the future thanks !
We didn't really get to see it, but the use of banding is really clever. I intend to eventually make a full-on banding deck, but the problem is just that there's not enough effects like helm of Chatzuk to make it consistent. When banding is a mechanic that synergizes with your gameplay, instead of the whole gameplay, you can play with it so much more easily. Good show.
Whenever Veggie talks about what his deck does in the beginning I just picture him going down a long Slip 'N Slide towards a fiery pit.
Happy to see someone use Norin! He's a commander ive been having fun playing with
"The most fearsome thing I know": immediately draws Bidoof
Everyone looking good! Veggie takes the cake obviously. Fun decks too.
I wasn't expecting the hand shake! 🤣
Z's eyes are absolutely mesmerizing with those contacts and that veil.
“Why would you wanna do that? It’s cute” then giggles. Omg I adore Z lol
Where did you find those awesome playmats?
I forget her name, but she's an mtg artist. Seen her booth at magiccon chicago this year and she was selling these playmats. She sells them online too but i think the foil ones are con exclusive ones
Miranda Meeks! That's her name lol
@@zachvalentine7423 Thanks!
Outfits on point. Good job friends!
long live primo the platypus (kill it on sight)
The veil + the contacts make it look like Z has googley eyes lol
So many cards were touched this episode
My wife and I went to see Beetlejuice and we found it was good not as good as the first one, but it still made us laugh. I love that you guys dress up for the occasion.
Niko , deadeye, Abuelo, Abdel, and yorion is s teaming up to build a “which way did he go, George “ deck … calculator required 😅!
35:03 Very small correction: Zimone has an intervening if, so she doesn’t trigger at all.
This didn't matter here, but it is relevant if you controlled something like Manabond to put lands into play during the end step
Yes! Thank you, I’ve been waiting for some gameplay with the new norin, best coward in the game of all the time!
He really is a coward. lo
"A fair Simic deck"
Breaks the legend rule.
Haha. Fair.
Lighting and camera upgrades??? Looks great!
This game was so fun- say what you will about duskmourn set mechanics but the flavor is SPECTACULAR and yall look amazing
I need a deck involving Prime Numbers 😁 glad to see Maldhound’s deck pop off well!
Costumes are flipping great. I need my eyes to look as cool as y’all’s during Halloween bar crawl Play mats are fire.
Goth MTGNerdGirl is best MTGNerdGirl... Lawdy giving me the vapors.
just 5 minutes in and I just gotta say, everyone looks fantastic!
mfw Veggie doesn't know how banding works.
You get to decide how damage is divided so you just have had Altanak deal 9 damage to the creature instead of trampling.
40:11 Cursed mirror couldn't make the red.
2021-04-16 While it is copying a creature, Cursed Mirror does not have "Tap: Add Red" (unless the creature it's copying also has that ability).
we all have seen the carnage of the perfect bidoof before.
Those playmats!!!!! Please drop the link for them!!! Also, What a fantastic episode, always such fun!
Damn ! Nerdgirl turning it up to 11
LOVE these playmats! Where can i pick one up? Also what life counter is being used? I can't find it in any app store.
Lifetap
@@waynetriba3281 thank you!
Holy shit those getups (yall are HAWT!) and those playmats! I need one! 😮
I love spooky season! 🦇🦇
Yall look amazing. Fun game
Anyone else waiting for Joe Hendry to appear *clap clap*?
I believe
I like the idea of rule zeroing in multiple copies of Say Its Name but I think for maximum thematic appropriate and challenge, it should be limited to 3 copies.
Whats the max one can have in their deck?
@@alexhamilton8777 Well there's no special rule on the card itself so it depends on the format. In commander you can only have one copy, so it kinda just sucks without special house rules, and in other formats you can have four copies in your deck.
I’m really digging Nerd Girl’s look y’all
Those playmats are the best!!
23:25 I was going to be upset at Nerdgirl getting away scot free again since she does it so often, but the handshake justified the entire exchange.
40:16 It's worth noting here that technically, Veggie DIDN'T attack you once you showed him the spell, he merely expressed intent. In other words, his word was never actually broken. You showed him the spell, and he did not attack. Both of those things remained true in the end. ;)
Primo is in fact a Bidoof
Do you guys have a link for your play mats?
Great episode. Thanks.
i think that parting gust could have targeted yorion instead and yorion would have saved nico, the virtue, and bounce many other stuff along with it right?
Did Maldhound never cash in the favor from Nerdgirl? I was so sure he was going to when Nerdgirl Assassin's Trophyed his commander.
Sharding all over the place made me laugh
Beeblejuice
Beeblejuice
Beeblejuice
Too bad Veggie was mono red because I'd like to remember him casting a Time Warp.
Where can you get those play mats?
Zmaincharacters costume was great
19:25 Wait, would have it mattered if the thought vessel had been cast before Winter? I assumed no max hand size effect would just ignore winters ability.
@@christopherfu2169 it would have mattered! If it was before winter would have taken over.
If the same static ability influence the same thing only the newest one counts
Thought vessel overrides winter but if thought vessel was there first winter would override it
Sorry, Is it allowed to put 1 or more Say its Name on commander or did I miss the part that theyre allowing it just for the theme?
@@johnrodriguez9648 yup. It was in the deck introduction.
This episode was made for me
19:38 “why would you wanna do that, it’s cute” that smile, I felt that
I think it's so funny that regular hosts of commander shows are like always archenemies in their pod. Jimmy and Josh are always after each other on Command Zone and I don't think I've ever seen a Decked Out game where from turn one Nerd Girl and Veggie weren't IMMEDIATELY affixing their crosshairs over one another. I wonder if this is because if they teamed up even sometimes it would feel to regular audience members like they were always teaming up against guests given they are nearly always in the pod of every ep...or maybe it's just that the people you play the most commander with are the people you have the most grudges against, lol.
Where can I find those playmats?
@deckedoutedh where do I get that oni playmat?!?
Are zimones tokens she makes legendary? Can Mald have multiples?
One of his other cards is breaking the legend rule on his board.
@@DeckedOutEDH oh I thought it said the copy isn’t a legendary. Didn’t realize the whole board
I love Primo the Bidoof.
awesome playmats!!!
As someone else who enjoys wearing unbuttoned button ups, I never know what part of the gay triad wins when I think about Maldhound
man, that Beetlejuice card really should have had "You can have up to 3 of these in your deck". Sure it's just a commander line... but it's such a flavor fail in commander.
No idea why it didnt have that bonus clause like so many of the other critical mass cards.
While this would be a very flavorful use of the text, WotC has never restricted the amount of cards allowed in a deck to less than 4 in formats other than Vintage and Commander. And you only need 3 for the effect, so there's no need for an "any number of copies" clause either
@@alicetheaxolotl I literally said it would just be a commander line.
MTGnerdgirl is absolutely stunning!
💙💜
Where do the playmats come from?
I don’t understand why Say Its Name isn’t able to be played in multiples, I thought Commander was the only format WOTC cared about 😂
Well he said it was a rule zero kind of deck. Which means all players agreed to break the rules a little bit just to have some fun
@@ARattyBestFriend I know, in commander you can’t use the second effect
Nerdgirl just killed me here 🥵🫦
Where can I get those playmats?
43:35 It's unfortunate that Mald's insect token didn't have a little hat and some curly hair. Would have been fitting to see a few Bettle-Jews.
At least it's Ugin, the In-effable... not Un-effable lol
That Primo token looks like a Bidoof
These decks look so fun, but also everyone looks so hot
love your guys content!
Banding is, in fact, super easy. It's way less complicated than protection and I only have to explain that maybe 7 times per year.
After a quick google it seems simple: basically the band is considered one creature. Unless I misunderstand and you have to block each individual creature normally.