There's nothing better than pulling your quilt over your head and falling asleep..i love my 20 degree 900 fill EE REVALATION..winter backpacking is the best..keep us posted on the goods..great video dude..
You should change the title to "My bad decisions on a top quilt". It kind of sounds like you are disparaging Hammock Gear, when you really under estimated the warmth and the quilt width that you needed. They state that the 50 inch is for hammocks and the 55 inch for ground sleeping. You are correct on the snaps having issues and they have since gone to a zipper.
William Kerber not disparaging Hammock Gear, in fact one of the first things i say is that it was a fantastic product. Likely i will consider buying another quilt from them in the future.
It's a little disappointing that you are ditching cottage gear for made in China by big companies. Why not go with a UGQ bandit, loco libre ghost pepper, or an EE revelation? The bandit can be had in 800fp for $200ish dollars. Plus you can customize everything!
Looking to buy a quilt. Your title sucks. Change it to "learn from mistakes when ordering a quilt.". The title does not explain the content of the video whatsoever. Thanks for making this, it's excellent content.
I love my Paria Outdoor Products Thermodown Quilt 15. I've owned it for over a year now and it's been great and you can't beat the price. The coldest I've used it in so far is 27 degrees.
The Sierra Design has down on the bottom side ....which you dont need with a good sleeping pad. Which is why the quilt system was utilized .Less weight , more down for loft on the top side for colder temps.
Oh man same with my nemo tango solo quilt. My nemo bags are great but the quilt definitely comes up short and cold. Or should I say narrow. The nemo quilt is 52 inches which is just not wide enough for ground sleeping.
I had the same issue with my Outdoor Vitals 15 degree quilt when it arrived. It took a look bit to unclump the down and spread it evenly through the quilt. It looks like it will be a great product though.
Great overview of the quilts. It's nice that it wasn't a major quality issue that let to selling the quilt. The burrow is on my radar for a winter quilt nice to know I will need to go with the wide for dual use with both my hammock and tent setups if I choose that one.
Dragon Roams yeah go wide for sure! I was impressed with that quilt, but when i order another, cause i will for sure get another HG quilt at some point, I’ll do the sewn footbox.
Great job! Finally a good look at the OV 15 degree top quilt! So many reviewers just pull a down product out of its stuff sack and shoot a review without allowing the down to loft up! Yours looks really nice and lofty! I’ve had nothing but cozy warm nights in my OV Aerie quilt , I’m strongly considering the 15 degree top quilt by OV or the Paria 15 degree quilt to use ground camping in colder weather. Can’t wait to see your review on it and how warm it is compared to the Paria 15 degree quilt. I’ll make my decision then! Again, great job on proper prep wk before showing a product!
Nice new quilts! I found out 2 years ago hammock camping in the winter next to Lake Superior is when I needed a good quilt. It was cold and windy is when I realized that I needed more coverage to keep warmer. I like how they make the first one more like a sleeping bag and it also can be vented if needed.
I've got the Paria quilt and the Outdoor Vitals synthetic quilt. I love the OV Loftek quilt. Its warm and being in the Pacific Northwest dealing with moisture the synthetic fill works great even when damp (or wet as happened when my gear went into the Puget Sound) . And now after watching this video last night my wife wants me to get her one of the Sierra Designs cloud bags... so thanks for that :)
I'm enlightened by your unlimited choices in routine backpacking gear. I have a questions for you. Are you a preparer for emergencies? Do you keep a backpack in your car at all times for emergencies? If so, what do you have in it? I'm guessing it's a bit different.
Solid choices. Sierra Designs is always a good pick and really like that design, keep us posted on how it works out for you. Outdoor Vitals is a great value for what you get. I used one of OV’s Summit 30 down bags for a couple years and loved it... great video as always Devin!
I have a 0 degree HG Burrow and love it. But it is the wide since I knew I'd be using on the ground more than in a hammock during the winter. That Sierra Designs bag looks nice. I'm going to need something like a 20 degree for the JMT next year so let us know how that bag works out.
I'll be anxious to see how the new one compares to your Paria overquilt. I love my Paria ... it will take alot to make me give that up! I think that's the best product you ever recommended!! 😎😎
I had the snap econ burrow and never had an issue with the snaps. I ended up selling it because I wanted to try the new baffle and zipper design. When I finally got the quilt, the duck down reeks so bad compared to the econ I sold. And the zipper actually unzips during the night. I wish I had kept my older econ burrow.
Christoph Dollis I have not yet... that said, for me the Paria quilts have been warmer, but I prefer the baffling of the OV quilts. I do enjoy the OV quilt though. For the price point it’s a great product. I’d just add 10-15° to the temp rating and not take it lower than that.
Bummer on the Borrow but looking forward to how these two pieces perform. Been interested in Outdoor Vitals for a while now and recalling looking forward to future reviews.
@@BackcountryExposure Good deal.....while primarily a hammock camper, I have been looking at Pyramid style tipi tents off and on, for those occasions when unable to use a hammock. This Luxe tent looks interesting and I will def check out any videos on it. Thks much for the info about it. Just subscribed to your channel and looking fwd to your videos. I own some of the OV gear and have been pleased with it and their customer service, including both the top and underquilts. Good products at a reasonable price with excellent customer service after the sale.
oh, seriously? you thought a 40 degree quilt would be good for you if you need a down coat? i sleep under a 40 degree HG quilt AT HOME, INDOORS. it's lovely btw. outside in cold weather is sleep under a HG zero degree wide version. because i don't make clickbait titles about my bad gear choices.
There's a reason they suggest a wider width for ground sleeping. Also, 40-degree for high alpine is not a good choice, as you discovered. It regularly drops down to 30 after an 80-degree day. SD bag: if you sleep on top of all the stuff under you, it's defeating the purpose of a quilt, which is lighteter because it doesn't include fabric that doens't insulate because you're crushing it under you. It's also lame that you don't demonstrate or lie in the new version with it attached to the pad Lame vid.
There's nothing better than pulling your quilt over your head and falling asleep..i love my 20 degree 900 fill EE REVALATION..winter backpacking is the best..keep us posted on the goods..great video dude..
pro trick : you can watch movies on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies lately.
@Randall Billy Yea, I have been using flixzone for since november myself =)
You should change the title to "My bad decisions on a top quilt". It kind of sounds like you are disparaging Hammock Gear, when you really under estimated the warmth and the quilt width that you needed. They state that the 50 inch is for hammocks and the 55 inch for ground sleeping. You are correct on the snaps having issues and they have since gone to a zipper.
William Kerber not disparaging Hammock Gear, in fact one of the first things i say is that it was a fantastic product. Likely i will consider buying another quilt from them in the future.
I was just about to say the same basic thing until I noticed your comment.
Totally... super bad name for this vid. Is bad for HG that people see this title in search results, when you just bought the wrong item
Totally agree, poor title. Why not just change the title to a review of the other two or my new quilts. Not cash in on hg shopper clicks, poor show.
He keeps the title this way because it’s clickbait. “Oh, somebody said something bad about HG!? I must see!” It’s classless.
he got the hammock version 50" instead of the GROUND 55"
It's a little disappointing that you are ditching cottage gear for made in China by big companies. Why not go with a UGQ bandit, loco libre ghost pepper, or an EE revelation? The bandit can be had in 800fp for $200ish dollars. Plus you can customize everything!
Looking to buy a quilt. Your title sucks. Change it to "learn from mistakes when ordering a quilt.". The title does not explain the content of the video whatsoever. Thanks for making this, it's excellent content.
I love my Paria Outdoor Products Thermodown Quilt 15. I've owned it for over a year now and it's been great and you can't beat the price. The coldest I've used it in so far is 27 degrees.
The Sierra Design has down on the bottom side ....which you dont need with a good sleeping pad.
Which is why the quilt system was utilized .Less weight , more down for loft on the top side for colder temps.
Oh man same with my nemo tango solo quilt. My nemo bags are great but the quilt definitely comes up short and cold. Or should I say narrow. The nemo quilt is 52 inches which is just not wide enough for ground sleeping.
I had the same issue with my Outdoor Vitals 15 degree quilt when it arrived. It took a look bit to unclump the down and spread it evenly through the quilt. It looks like it will be a great product though.
Yeah after having it out of the stuff sack and using it a little now, it's been pretty good.
Great overview of the quilts. It's nice that it wasn't a major quality issue that let to selling the quilt. The burrow is on my radar for a winter quilt nice to know I will need to go with the wide for dual use with both my hammock and tent setups if I choose that one.
Dragon Roams yeah go wide for sure! I was impressed with that quilt, but when i order another, cause i will for sure get another HG quilt at some point, I’ll do the sewn footbox.
Great job! Finally a good look at the OV 15 degree top quilt! So many reviewers just pull a down product out of its stuff sack and shoot a review without allowing the down to loft up! Yours looks really nice and lofty! I’ve had nothing but cozy warm nights in my OV Aerie quilt , I’m strongly considering the 15 degree top quilt by OV or the Paria 15 degree quilt to use ground camping in colder weather. Can’t wait to see your review on it and how warm it is compared to the Paria 15 degree quilt. I’ll make my decision then! Again, great job on proper prep wk before showing a product!
Just curious, sorry if you mentioned it and I didn’t catch it, but what was the lowest temperature you slept comfortably at in the HG quilt?
Nice new quilts! I found out 2 years ago hammock camping in the winter next to Lake Superior is when I needed a good quilt. It was cold and windy is when I realized that I needed more coverage to keep warmer. I like how they make the first one more like a sleeping bag and it also can be vented if needed.
I've got the Paria quilt and the Outdoor Vitals synthetic quilt. I love the OV Loftek quilt. Its warm and being in the Pacific Northwest dealing with moisture the synthetic fill works great even when damp (or wet as happened when my gear went into the Puget Sound) .
And now after watching this video last night my wife wants me to get her one of the Sierra Designs cloud bags... so thanks for that :)
I've been really impressed with the SD so far just laying in it at home. I say do it!
I'm enlightened by your unlimited choices in routine backpacking gear. I have a questions for you. Are you a preparer for emergencies? Do you keep a backpack in your car at all times for emergencies? If so, what do you have in it? I'm guessing it's a bit different.
Solid choices. Sierra Designs is always a good pick and really like that design, keep us posted on how it works out for you. Outdoor Vitals is a great value for what you get. I used one of OV’s Summit 30 down bags for a couple years and loved it... great video as always Devin!
I love the creativity of Sierra Designs!
I agree, I’ve decided on the Cloud 20 over a quilt after much research
I have a 0 degree HG Burrow and love it. But it is the wide since I knew I'd be using on the ground more than in a hammock during the winter. That Sierra Designs bag looks nice. I'm going to need something like a 20 degree for the JMT next year so let us know how that bag works out.
Pack Mule thanks! Will do!
I'll be anxious to see how the new one compares to your Paria overquilt. I love my Paria ... it will take alot to make me give that up! I think that's the best product you ever recommended!! 😎😎
mrdonelsonglhs yeah i love love love the Paria Quilts!
I had the snap econ burrow and never had an issue with the snaps. I ended up selling it because I wanted to try the new baffle and zipper design. When I finally got the quilt, the duck down reeks so bad compared to the econ I sold. And the zipper actually unzips during the night. I wish I had kept my older econ burrow.
Great looking lawn
Did you ever test the OV 15 deg down quilt? Any thoughts on it?
Interesting. The sleeping bag that is not a sleeping bag. The vent and zipperless is cool.
Tim Watson I am excited about it! I’ve already been back on HG’s website looking at a 20* quilt. Ha ha.
So you never did a review on the Outdoor Vitals quilt. How does it compare to the equivalent temperature rating Paria Products quilt?
Christoph Dollis I have not yet... that said, for me the Paria quilts have been warmer, but I prefer the baffling of the OV quilts. I do enjoy the OV quilt though. For the price point it’s a great product. I’d just add 10-15° to the temp rating and not take it lower than that.
Bummer on the Borrow but looking forward to how these two pieces perform. Been interested in Outdoor Vitals for a while now and recalling looking forward to future reviews.
Hiker85 yeah I’ll have it out next weekend!
@@BackcountryExposure And?
I've had my eye on the OV top quilt for a little while now. I'm excited to hear what your experience is with it once you get it out on the trail.
Chris Young review pending adventure
@@BackcountryExposure And?
I want that Sierra bag! Nice review Dev!
Dude, it is really stinking cool. I've always loved SD's innovation.
Is the Sierra Design good for a side sleeper? I find the mummy style bags get all twisted up as I toss and turn in the night.
Mark R yes it’s great. I just posted a review of it yesterday.
What's the weight to warmth benefit of overfill
Love that tent in the background of your quilt review. Can you tell us who makes it?? Good video.
Mike Kovitch it’s the Luxe Hiking Gear Minipeak tent. It’s awesome!
@@BackcountryExposure Thks for quick response. Will have to check it out. Looks very roomy with good head clearance. Do you have a review on it??
Mike Kovitch I have not posted a review on it yet. Probably will in the near future.
@@BackcountryExposure Good deal.....while primarily a hammock camper, I have been looking at Pyramid style tipi tents off and on, for those occasions when unable to use a hammock. This Luxe tent looks interesting and I will def check out any videos on it. Thks much for the info about it. Just subscribed to your channel and looking fwd to your videos. I own some of the OV gear and have been pleased with it and their customer service, including both the top and underquilts. Good products at a reasonable price with excellent customer service after the sale.
thank you Pal! .. I so Relate. ... Mike.
would you mind standing on the down quilt so i can see how lofty it is
DerChampion that’s an odd request. Pretty easy to see the loft in the video.
Is this a joke that I'm not aware of? I've seen that request in another video. Please explain it. I like to laugh 😁
oh, seriously? you thought a 40 degree quilt would be good for you if you need a down coat? i sleep under a 40 degree HG quilt AT HOME, INDOORS.
it's lovely btw. outside in cold weather is sleep under a HG zero degree wide version.
because i don't make clickbait titles about my bad gear choices.
What's the tent you have there?
Did you do a review of these products?
Serafin Hikes nope, sold the quilt before I could.
Did you not like the Outdoor Vitals quilt?
Try a Kifaru minus 20 degree bag.
I’d love to try some of the hunting brands bags.
Great info!
You bought the economy version. What do you expect?
There's a reason they suggest a wider width for ground sleeping. Also, 40-degree for high alpine is not a good choice, as you discovered. It regularly drops down to 30 after an 80-degree day. SD bag: if you sleep on top of all the stuff under you, it's defeating the purpose of a quilt, which is lighteter because it doesn't include fabric that doens't insulate because you're crushing it under you. It's also lame that you don't demonstrate or lie in the new version with it attached to the pad Lame vid.
He's a poser.
The older you get, the colder you sleep.
Has something to do with the musclemass getting less.👴🏻👵🏻😉
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