Evander was a true warrior who broke my heart by keeping at it long after his days were gone. One of the best light-heavies ever, and no sloucher as a heavyweight.
Douglas wasn't here prepared as he should've been and basically gave the title away. But what many fail to notice is that most new champions make their first defences often against unworthy challengers. Douglas took the number one challenger instead.
+Aristotelezz Sugar Ray Leonard talked about how Douglas' extra weight (8 lbs. heavier than expected) would make him a stationary target and would limit Douglas' combos. No wonder Holyfield knocked him out!
true, once he abandoned the defensive first posture, he resorted to throwing head hunting sloppy lunging right hands and holy and douglas both learned to "step in" on tysons lunges. Gil Clancy said that about Juan Roldan when he was throwing the lunging shots at hearns, he said hearns needs to step in as roldan was reaching with right hands. Same with tyson, he's an idiot for not bringing back rooney who had an excellent understanding of the damato ideology of fighting.His stamina suffered also
No, I know exactly what he was talking about and atlas and rooney as well. Tyson had the greatest elusive style since ali but tyson was laso a swarmer. This was unprecedented in boxing history to be a swarmer style with ali speed and defense. Thats why on his best night tyson beats any human that ever walked this earth.Once that defense of side to side head movement stopped, he started getting hit and the opponents stopped being afraid cause they were able to land shots.Its was a science
Douglas when motivated, was truly an elite heavyweight. When he wasn't, he was a fat sloth. I mean prior to this, his only big loss was to Tony Tucker, who was darn near unbeatable for a stretch in the mid-80s. He's really a lot like a worse version of Riddick Bowe. If he could have stayed motivated, he'd have been awesome.
@MrWondermann Good call on Sugar, but I even picked Holyfield that night. Tyson was fairly shot by the time he finally got Holyfield. As for Lennox, I thought he had a very good chance, but I couldn't completely commit to him that night because of his suspect chin (I know other people that DID pick him though).
@valiantbros thats saying a lot considering the talent in the division at the time. I'm not sure that an in shape motivated Douglas beats Holy, let alone a prime Bowe or Lewis.
Everyone knows that at the top of his form, Tyson would destroy but I have immense respect for Douglas (in this fight). (excuse me for my English I speak French)
@danning1 and that was exactly the problem. Tyson took it for granted before he stepped into the ring, even when he put Douglas down. But Douglas had his best day ever and deserved to win in the end
George Foreman beat Frazier, Frazier beat Ali, Ali beat Foreman. You just cant apply that logic to boxing. Plus Douglas was in no shape for this fight.
Buster didnt give a damn about this fight ,his attitude and training efforts in preparation of this fight showed that Unfortunately. I believe if Buster had wanted to hold on to the title and had kept the same hunger he had with the KO of Tyson, that Buster could have been CHAMP for quite a while.
The way holyfield fought douglas was exactly how tyson would have beaten douglas in 1988 if they fought. Tysons head movement,like holy, would have slipped douglas jabs and counters and tysons better offensive combinations and quickness before 1989,when he trained normally,would have gotten in as holy did. I see the same type of fight that tyson shoudl have beaten douglas with. Holy did exactly what tyson should have done in tokyo but didnt have the mental or physical preparation.
@Nominay That was his way of acknowledging and saying hello to his wife and two sons on television before reffing the fight. Notice that he taps his nose three times and points three times while being introduced. He explained that once during an interview after he retired having suffered a stroke!
@MrWondermann Let's put it like this, who did Holyfield ever fight that was even CLOSE to as skilled a technical Boxer as Larry Holmes? Those weren't the kind of opponents he faced, he fought big men that hit hard.
Douglas knew he would make 24 to 25 million win lose or draw so I don't blame him. He never intended on being the best just wanted to make a living and support his family. He was smart with his money and is still very rich today from this fight.
If ANYONE KNOWS what underestimating an opponent can do, it Douglass. He should have trained just as hard for holy as he did for tyson. However, I feel like he fell into a depression after the fight when he had to deal with the death of his mother.
He may have been athletically fine but without that style of fighting... he'll just get picked apart in the heavyweight division, as he did. Tyson's style of ducking and weaving and slipping jabs, and getting inside and working the body with combinations is what made him what he was, without that... he's just 'decent'.
Man I wish Tyson and Holyfield fought with Tyson in his prime... and I wish Tyson didn't ruin his fkn shit so early on... I'm not making excuses for him but seriously - any boxing fan should know that the Tyson fighting Douglas is a JOKE compared to prime Tyson. That just was not him. He was slowly walking in looking for a lucky head shot from round 1, getting clobbered with jabs. Prime Tyson is energetic, slipping and bouncing and throwing combos.
I hate to say it, but if Buster Douglas was able to defeat Tyson in a one-sided fight, imagine how bad a young Holyfield would have destroyed the same Mike Tyson.
holyfield would have never beaten Tyson without PEDs and headbutts Tyson did Justice to this cheater in the rematch holyfield is a shame to Boxing He doesn't count
Sorry you Ali-Holmes fanatics--Sonny Liston's jab was better than either in his prime. He could knock men out with it. (If only he wasn't so easily psyched out.) Also, Bruce Seldon didn't have much endurance, but his jab was world-class.
I forgot to ask you how Holyfield was going to out box Larry Holmes if he could barely outbox Bert Cooper? Holyfied's era actually didn't have very may skilled technical Boxers in it, just big hard hitting tough guys that were o.k. as Boxers.. Now if it makes any sense to decide who will win a fight solely by the toughness of the era they fought in, then Jimmy Young should beat Evander Holyfield lol. Ofcourse Holyfield was a great fighter, but so were Foreman and Holmes.
@AugerMartel LMAO you're right...he reminds me of the character that Bubba Smith played in that Police Academy movie where he played the voodoo doctor "Yama yama yama yama yaaaama!"
@capablemachine - Tyson won the belt from Bruno, and Lewis sued Tyson to make a mandatory defence since Lewis was no 1 contender. Tyson gave up his belt + $4m It would have been far far bigger money had Tyson defended his WBC belt against Lewis. Then that would have set up a unification fight with Holyfield. But Tyson knew he couldn't beat Lewis, and thought he could beat Holyfield. He beat neither. Fighters dodge fighters ALL THE TIME. Everyone tried to dodge Lewis.
Holyfield was ready. Look at the sweat on his body before the fight. You can tell alot about how warm a fighter is about looking at the sweat on their body. Look at the Mosely vs Pacman fight. Mosely was bone dry. He didn't even practice warm up in the corner. He was not ready. He wasted everybody's time.
TYson was shot mentally and hadn't trained the same way for 2 yrs when he fought douglas.Tysons decline in his conditioning and technique was already apparent vs bruno in 89.DOuglas was a farce because totally in fit and fighting for his FATHER vs tucker,he got KO"d.He never showed any good performance before and after tyson.
@fadethetrade some sportscaster said back in the day that the only boxer who could beat Mike Tyson was Mike Tyson. I clearly believe that. Sometimes I wonder if Tyson was set up to fail by his meteoric rise .. it was a waste of time for him to fight all those old guys, his real peers were Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis. Too bad he wasn't around in the early 90's battling it out with them.
@MrWondermann And how can you seriously believe that Holyfield was a better technical Boxer than Larry Holmes? As I said, Evander, was a pretty good technical Boxer for his time, but it was his toughness that really set him apart. Ofcourse Holmes fought him smart, that is the point, and on top of that he would now have the killer speed of his prime. Holyfield however WAS in his prime, so if his "chin, counterpunching" etc. would have DESTROYED prime Holmes it would have done it then. .
Oh but Tyson did decline at that age though, because Tyson was a short and stumpy heavyweight - he had a lot of physical disadvantages... his dominance depended on his style; the style robotically hammered in to him by Cus D'Amto and co. Without that, he's just a decent boxer with a lot of holes, which he why he continuously got picked apart as soon as he fired Rooney. As soon as he fired Kevin, he stopped that style, and that's when he started losing. Without the style, there's no Tyson.
@valiantbros yeah douglas could have been a good champ if he kept in shape both physically and mentally but so would a lot of guys so it doesn't matter what could happen it's what did happen that counts bro..holyfield was an awesome fighter and would probably beat douglas no matter what shape he was in..
Ridiculous ... You do not lose his athletic qualities to 24 years. Tyson was not in decline. His real downfall started when he was released from prison (stay three years to return to the top this is impossible). Only the luck was not with Tyson. It was found in a night club on the eve of battle. divorce being accused of domestic violence. Accusing rape of a 18 year old girl. Douglas was 110% motivated as ever. 14 seconds of the referee.
Buster disgraced himself with his condition and heart for this fight, but you are going way too far calling him a POS. The fact is, he beat Tyson all around the win, but obviously was no longer interested in fighting after that...
@CydeandSkopez Bowe and Lewis weren't contenders until Tyson was in the slammer. Mercer was not highly regarded at the time and vacated the WBO title to look for bigger fights in 1992. Tommy Morrison had lost to Mercer and would have had no chance against Tyson. Tyson was signed to fight Holyfield in 1991 but withdrew with an injury and was then arrested and jailed. Holyfield would probably have beaten him in 1991 but he didn't avoid the others at the time.
James let himself go a bit after winning the belt from Tyson; I think after the Tyson fight, with this mother gone he lost that "spark" he got int he weeks after his mother's death and just ate a lot and really didn't train hard. Though he has a lot of heart in this fight his lack of a proper diet and training regiment really cost him big in this fight; very disappointing. It would only get worse after the fight as he'd balloon to nearly 400 pounds within 4 years.
@AugerMartel OH SHIT .... I think that guy was spotted walking around in the woods in a dense forest near Racoon city... I think we need to go investigate... I'll contact other stars members and we should fly in immediately....
The endless stream of excuses for Tyson's loses fill me with mirth. Mike Tyson - the ONLY fighter in history ever that promoters, managers, trainers made money from lol!
man I wish buster would have came into this at similar weight and condition of the Tyson fight. Buster douglas was on point in his bout against Mike. He just looks fat and slow here compared to evander.
@MrWondermann Hey I'm not talking about ranking, I'm talking about who would win a fight, two completely different things. I don't think it's stupid to rank Holyfield over Holmes on an all time greatest list., but ONE ON ONE Holyfield just isn't taking that fight. Just like I rank Joe Louis higher than Mike Tyson, even though Tyson would wreck Louis in a fight. We know Holy isn't going to Ko Holmes, and that only leaves beating him in a technical Boxing match which is absurd.
omer968.. Not sure what Language that is??? Just joking. I think you meant to say That Buster was the same as Mike On Top when he fought Hollyfield, much like When Tyson was on top when he fought Buster in Tokyo. Am I right?? Its all good. But Buster had the EYE OF THE TIGER for that Night in Tokyo and No One will ever be able to take that away from him. That one night in Tokyo Solidified Buster in the books of Boxing History.
True, but that's a very broad statement lmao which you could pretty much apply to anybody and it fits... D'Mato was sometimes awesomely wise but he also said a lot of very generic things which don't mean all that much but which get quoted as genius. I liked Cus though, from what I knew of him... it's so frustrating that he passed, people say (even Mike has) it wouldn't have made any difference but I totally disagree. He would have kept Mike out of shit and away from pimps and crack hoes.
@danning1 Oh yeah he was definately depressed for quite some time after this fight and turned to comfort food. But I don't think he knew how humiliated he would be until the fight happened. My first instinct on earning that much money no matter what the result of the fight is yeah its worth being humiliated one night to become that rich. But I think he regretted not training hard for this fight instead of ordering out for pizza after training. But he is still very wealthy from hat 1 night.
That is a little different heavyweight than the heavyweight championship of the world though! And this was on PPV by the way. It is weird by any standard at any time.
@MrWondermann I think you are overrating Holyfield as a technical Boxer. Admittedly he was a pretty good technical Boxer, but not on the level of Ali, and it was his toughness that really set him apart. Now even Ali didn't dare face Foreman by conventional Boxing but instead covered up on the ropes and plotted to make him punch himself out. It's hard to see Holyfield wanting to do that, much less inventing the strategy in the first place which is far more important ofcourse.
Evander was a true warrior who broke my heart by keeping at it long after his days were gone. One of the best light-heavies ever, and no sloucher as a heavyweight.
Is it just me or did the crowd slightly gasp when they announced Buster's weight ?
I like buster's boxing style
love the sound of holys punches when they land, they sound so crisp and clean with a lot of snap
Yes I like it too
Douglas wasn't here prepared as he should've been and basically gave the title away. But what many fail to notice is that most new champions make their first defences often against unworthy challengers. Douglas took the number one challenger instead.
+Aristotelezz Sugar Ray Leonard talked about how Douglas' extra weight (8 lbs. heavier than expected) would make him a stationary target and would limit Douglas' combos. No wonder Holyfield knocked him out!
A peak Holyfield gives any fighter a rough night.....
PEDs abusing cheater
Screw those headbutts, Holy was a beast :)
Evander Holyfield: A shining example of what kind of condition heavyweights should be in :)
blackoil911
Holyfield was in his late 30's when Lewis got to him, this Holyfield would be a different proposition...
Tyson was very hungry and ready for either guy by this time.
Holyfield was a great champ, he was rugged as they come.
true, once he abandoned the defensive first posture, he resorted to throwing head hunting sloppy lunging right hands and holy and douglas both learned to "step in" on tysons lunges. Gil Clancy said that about Juan Roldan when he was throwing the lunging shots at hearns, he said hearns needs to step in as roldan was reaching with right hands. Same with tyson, he's an idiot for not bringing back rooney who had an excellent understanding of the damato ideology of fighting.His stamina suffered also
damn this ring announcer has a natural talent for putting the audience to sleep
James is a big bad man, solid and powerful.....but Holyfield is smart, accurate and fast........more importanly he isn't afraid of big bad men.
@rdsnuke
I know that but that was after he had been in prison, not before.
Lewis wasn't on the title radar until 1992.
Oh but you are right about Cooper, I hadn't seen that fight in a long time, I thought he did better than he had before and after the knockdown.
No, I know exactly what he was talking about and atlas and rooney as well. Tyson had the greatest elusive style since ali but tyson was laso a swarmer. This was unprecedented in boxing history to be a swarmer style with ali speed and defense. Thats why on his best night tyson beats any human that ever walked this earth.Once that defense of side to side head movement stopped, he started getting hit and the opponents stopped being afraid cause they were able to land shots.Its was a science
Michael Buffer/Jimmy Lennon Jr. or bust! Thanks for the upload
I knew Evander was gonna crush him.... Douglas beat a guy that was NOT Mike Tyson anymore.... He was a mere shadow of his former self...
Douglas never had a chance, totally outclassed.
Douglas when motivated, was truly an elite heavyweight. When he wasn't, he was a fat sloth. I mean prior to this, his only big loss was to Tony Tucker, who was darn near unbeatable for a stretch in the mid-80s. He's really a lot like a worse version of Riddick Bowe. If he could have stayed motivated, he'd have been awesome.
@rtfuhj Wasn't Tyson's count also a bit slow?
@MrWondermann
Good call on Sugar, but I even picked Holyfield that night. Tyson was fairly shot by the time he finally got Holyfield. As for Lennox, I thought he had a very good chance, but I couldn't completely commit to him that night because of his suspect chin (I know other people that DID pick him though).
@valiantbros thats saying a lot considering the talent in the division at the time. I'm not sure that an in shape motivated Douglas beats Holy, let alone a prime Bowe or Lewis.
Everyone knows that at the top of his form, Tyson would destroy but I have immense respect for Douglas (in this fight). (excuse me for my English I speak French)
@danning1 and that was exactly the problem. Tyson took it for granted before he stepped into the ring, even when he put Douglas down. But Douglas had his best day ever and deserved to win in the end
Douglas had one of the best jab ever,shame he was out of shape could have been a great fight douglas cheeted the fans
George Foreman beat Frazier, Frazier beat Ali, Ali beat Foreman. You just cant apply that logic to boxing. Plus Douglas was in no shape for this fight.
I wonder if any champion in history would have been able to stop Evander taking the title on this night...
@valiantbros thats saying considering the talent in the division. I'm not sure that an in shape motivated Douglas beats Holy, Bowe or Lewis.
Buster didnt give a damn about this fight ,his attitude and training efforts in preparation of this fight showed that Unfortunately. I believe if Buster had wanted to hold on to the title and had kept the same hunger he had with the KO of Tyson, that Buster could have been CHAMP for quite a while.
talks quietly into the microphone, the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world (Until the end of this match)
Buster was an average fighter who caught lightning in a bottle one night in Tokyo and fought the perfect fight.
The way holyfield fought douglas was exactly how tyson would have beaten douglas in 1988 if they fought. Tysons head movement,like holy, would have slipped douglas jabs and counters and tysons better offensive combinations and quickness before 1989,when he trained normally,would have gotten in as holy did. I see the same type of fight that tyson shoudl have beaten douglas with. Holy did exactly what tyson should have done in tokyo but didnt have the mental or physical preparation.
Damato quote before he died. "TYsons best asset could be his biggest downfall"
he was so right.
And what did that mean ?
I'll bet no one knew that Duva sent pizzas to douglas hotel room for a week before the fight and douglas finished the pies by himself!!!!!
@bobber0623 didn't Bowe only lose 1 fight in his 40 plus fight career?
@Nominay That was his way of acknowledging and saying hello to his wife and two sons on television before reffing the fight. Notice that he taps his nose three times and points three times while being introduced. He explained that once during an interview after he retired having suffered a stroke!
@MrWondermann
Let's put it like this, who did Holyfield ever fight that was even CLOSE to as skilled a technical Boxer as Larry Holmes?
Those weren't the kind of opponents he faced, he fought big men that hit hard.
Douglas knew he would make 24 to 25 million win lose or draw so I don't blame him. He never intended on being the best just wanted to make a living and support his family. He was smart with his money and is still very rich today from this fight.
He broke now
If ANYONE KNOWS what underestimating an opponent can do, it Douglass. He should have trained just as hard for holy as he did for tyson. However, I feel like he fell into a depression after the fight when he had to deal with the death of his mother.
He may have been athletically fine but without that style of fighting... he'll just get picked apart in the heavyweight division, as he did. Tyson's style of ducking and weaving and slipping jabs, and getting inside and working the body with combinations is what made him what he was, without that... he's just 'decent'.
@rtfuhj that's an old debate they tried to use shortly after the fight that resulted in the decision to stay
I have a new respect for Jimmy Lennon Jr and Michael Buffer after that introduction. That was painful to watch.
Hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahhaa yeah
@TheBardyCharver no i'm not talking about leonard it's the announcer in the begin
Man I wish Tyson and Holyfield fought with Tyson in his prime... and I wish Tyson didn't ruin his fkn shit so early on...
I'm not making excuses for him but seriously - any boxing fan should know that the Tyson fighting Douglas is a JOKE compared to prime Tyson. That just was not him.
He was slowly walking in looking for a lucky head shot from round 1, getting clobbered with jabs. Prime Tyson is energetic, slipping and bouncing and throwing combos.
I hate to say it, but if Buster Douglas was able to defeat Tyson in a one-sided fight, imagine how bad a young Holyfield would have destroyed the same Mike Tyson.
holyfield would have never beaten Tyson without PEDs and headbutts
Tyson did Justice to this cheater in the rematch
holyfield is a shame to Boxing
He doesn't count
@RobertsDigital Agreed. Tyson got his ass kicked by both of these guys.
Fight starts at 5:10
Sorry you Ali-Holmes fanatics--Sonny Liston's jab was better than either in his prime. He could knock men out with it. (If only he wasn't so easily psyched out.) Also, Bruce Seldon didn't have much endurance, but his jab was world-class.
@cbaldwinjr Yeah, I agree on all points and I really agree that he fell into a major depression right after the Tyson fight.
I forgot to ask you how Holyfield was going to out box Larry Holmes if he could barely outbox Bert Cooper?
Holyfied's era actually didn't have very may skilled technical Boxers in it, just big hard hitting tough guys that were o.k. as Boxers..
Now if it makes any sense to decide who will win a fight solely by the toughness of the era they fought in, then Jimmy Young should beat Evander Holyfield lol.
Ofcourse Holyfield was a great fighter, but so were Foreman and Holmes.
@TheBardyCharver yees ur right but no he does strikeforce not ufc :p
this was the buster douglas tyson expected
@AugerMartel LMAO you're right...he reminds me of the character that Bubba Smith played in that Police Academy movie where he played the voodoo doctor "Yama yama yama yama yaaaama!"
@capablemachine -
Tyson won the belt from Bruno, and Lewis sued Tyson to make a mandatory defence since Lewis was no 1 contender. Tyson gave up his belt + $4m
It would have been far far bigger money had Tyson defended his WBC belt against Lewis. Then that would have set up a unification fight with Holyfield.
But Tyson knew he couldn't beat Lewis, and thought he could beat Holyfield. He beat neither.
Fighters dodge fighters ALL THE TIME. Everyone tried to dodge Lewis.
Holyfield was ready. Look at the sweat on his body before the fight. You can tell alot about how warm a fighter is about looking at the sweat on their body. Look at the Mosely vs Pacman fight. Mosely was bone dry. He didn't even practice warm up in the corner. He was not ready. He wasted everybody's time.
I think you are right.
А вообще я уважаю Холифилда!
this was the douglas tyson expected
TYson was shot mentally and hadn't trained the same way for 2 yrs when he fought douglas.Tysons decline in his conditioning and technique was already apparent vs bruno in 89.DOuglas was a farce because totally in fit and fighting for his FATHER vs tucker,he got KO"d.He never showed any good performance before and after tyson.
Buster just not busy enough... poor training leads to poor performance. Fighters, do your roadwork!
@fadethetrade some sportscaster said back in the day that the only boxer who could beat Mike Tyson was Mike Tyson. I clearly believe that.
Sometimes I wonder if Tyson was set up to fail by his meteoric rise .. it was a waste of time for him to fight all those old guys, his real peers were Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis. Too bad he wasn't around in the early 90's battling it out with them.
Sugar Ray did the introductions?!! LOL
@MrWondermann
And how can you seriously believe that Holyfield was a better technical Boxer than Larry Holmes? As I said, Evander, was a pretty good technical Boxer for his time, but it was his toughness that really set him apart. Ofcourse Holmes fought him smart, that is the point, and on top of that he would now have the killer speed of his prime. Holyfield however WAS in his prime, so if his "chin, counterpunching" etc. would have DESTROYED prime Holmes it would have done it then. .
Announcer: The president is Jose Solla Man" LMAO!
holyfield is a vegetarian like tyson thats why i support them.
Douglas thought he was invinceable after he beat Tyson. You can see that he is out of shape in this fight.
Oh but Tyson did decline at that age though, because Tyson was a short and stumpy heavyweight - he had a lot of physical disadvantages... his dominance depended on his style; the style robotically hammered in to him by Cus D'Amto and co.
Without that, he's just a decent boxer with a lot of holes, which he why he continuously got picked apart as soon as he fired Rooney. As soon as he fired Kevin, he stopped that style, and that's when he started losing. Without the style, there's no Tyson.
@shevegen says somewhere on here that tyson barely trained for the fight thinking it would be easy
@valiantbros yeah douglas could have been a good champ if he kept in shape both physically and mentally but so would a lot of guys so it doesn't matter what could happen it's what did happen that counts bro..holyfield was an awesome fighter and would probably beat douglas no matter what shape he was in..
Ridiculous ... You do not lose his athletic qualities to 24 years. Tyson was not in decline. His real downfall started when he was released from prison (stay three years to return to the top this is impossible). Only the luck was not with Tyson. It was found in a night club on the eve of battle. divorce being accused of domestic violence. Accusing rape of a 18 year old girl. Douglas was 110% motivated as ever. 14 seconds of the referee.
Buster disgraced himself with his condition and heart for this fight, but you are going way too far calling him a POS. The fact is, he beat Tyson all around the win, but obviously was no longer interested in fighting after that...
@valiantbros I don't know, Holyfield is a great fighter. Not sure if the same Douglas that beat Tyson would've beaten holyfield.
@MagicTorch86 Chris Arreola should look at Holyfield's condition in this title fight if he dares to take on Klitschko again.
Tyson lost it once he hit the 90s an 86 87 tyson was light on feet, lightening fast and crazy power, the quote below I'd right!!
Buster had potential. He should have stayed in some sort of shape.
@CydeandSkopez
Bowe and Lewis weren't contenders until Tyson was in the slammer. Mercer was not highly regarded at the time and vacated the WBO title to look for bigger fights in 1992. Tommy Morrison had lost to Mercer and would have had no chance against Tyson.
Tyson was signed to fight Holyfield in 1991 but withdrew with an injury and was then arrested and jailed.
Holyfield would probably have beaten him in 1991 but he didn't avoid the others at the time.
James let himself go a bit after winning the belt from Tyson; I think after the Tyson fight, with this mother gone he lost that "spark" he got int he weeks after his mother's death and just ate a lot and really didn't train hard. Though he has a lot of heart in this fight his lack of a proper diet and training regiment really cost him big in this fight; very disappointing. It would only get worse after the fight as he'd balloon to nearly 400 pounds within 4 years.
Douglas obviously didn't train much for this fight
@AugerMartel
OH SHIT .... I think that guy was spotted walking around in the woods in a dense forest near Racoon city... I think we need to go investigate... I'll contact other stars members and we should fly in immediately....
@valiantbros He was the same as Mike was on the run up to his fight with buster in tokyo
Lou Duva sent pizza pies every night to douglas hotel room!! It's a true story.
@TheBardyCharver yeah better that blonde guy hmm i forgot his name but he has awesome voice he has announced many fights of mike tyson etc..
...Holmes was knocked out just once in career coming out of retirement. Unlikely but that's your opinion.
LMAO @ " When he moves, his body jellies! You can see the jelly in his body; particularly his breasts! LOL
The endless stream of excuses for Tyson's loses fill me with mirth. Mike Tyson - the ONLY fighter in history ever that promoters, managers, trainers made money from lol!
STFU dumbass
man I wish buster would have came into this at similar weight and condition of the Tyson fight. Buster douglas was on point in his bout against Mike. He just looks fat and slow here compared to evander.
@MrWondermann
Hey I'm not talking about ranking, I'm talking about who would win a fight, two completely different things.
I don't think it's stupid to rank Holyfield over Holmes on an all time greatest list., but ONE ON ONE Holyfield just isn't taking that fight. Just like I rank Joe Louis higher than Mike Tyson, even though Tyson would wreck Louis in a fight. We know Holy isn't going to Ko Holmes, and that only leaves beating him in a technical Boxing match which is absurd.
Douglas looks alot heavier that he was against Tyson... almost tubby
@stell29 Average? I thought of him as 2nd tier for his generation, like Frank Bruno, Oliver McCall, Razor Ruddock.
omer968.. Not sure what Language that is??? Just joking. I think you meant to say That Buster was the same as Mike On Top when he fought Hollyfield, much like When Tyson was on top when he fought Buster in Tokyo. Am I right?? Its all good. But Buster had the EYE OF THE TIGER for that Night in Tokyo and No One will ever be able to take that away from him. That one night in Tokyo Solidified Buster in the books of Boxing History.
Somebody tell me why Mills Lane taps his nose at every fight upon being introduced. It annoys me.
True, but that's a very broad statement lmao which you could pretty much apply to anybody and it fits... D'Mato was sometimes awesomely wise but he also said a lot of very generic things which don't mean all that much but which get quoted as genius.
I liked Cus though, from what I knew of him... it's so frustrating that he passed, people say (even Mike has) it wouldn't have made any difference but I totally disagree. He would have kept Mike out of shit and away from pimps and crack hoes.
@danning1 Oh yeah he was definately depressed for quite some time after this fight and turned to comfort food. But I don't think he knew how humiliated he would be until the fight happened. My first instinct on earning that much money no matter what the result of the fight is yeah its worth being humiliated one night to become that rich. But I think he regretted not training hard for this fight instead of ordering out for pizza after training. But he is still very wealthy from hat 1 night.
This is the main event of the evening. Really? I thought it was the main event for the afternoon of April 2, 1993.
@AugerMartel - He is a cyborg!
This fight took place on September 25th. 1990 a Tuesday Night!! That's weird.
That is a little different heavyweight than the heavyweight championship of the world though! And this was on PPV by the way. It is weird by any standard at any time.
Whatever happened to Douglas' body? It's like a different man there.
@MrWondermann
I think you are overrating Holyfield as a technical Boxer. Admittedly he was a pretty good technical Boxer, but not on the level of Ali, and it was his toughness that really set him apart. Now even Ali didn't dare face Foreman by conventional Boxing but instead covered up on the ropes and plotted to make him punch himself out. It's hard to see Holyfield wanting to do that, much less inventing the strategy in the first place which is far more important ofcourse.