67 year old retired GM dealer tech as of 2019. ASE Master tech with diesel and L1 additional. worked at 6 different dealerships through my career. Reasons for having a bad opinion of auto mechanical field is low pay, constant stress, no appreciation, hazard filled work environment, extreme noise damaging hearing, chemicals everywhere, rigged payment system, high insurance cost. It was fun back in the 1970's but you are doing engineer work these days for fast food wages. I programmed computer modules, electrical, drivability, brakes, alignments, tuneups, diagnostics for everything. It wasn't worth it. Some of my friends have had an early death because of it. The smart ones switched careers 20 years ago. I still fix imaginary vehicles in my sleep. That truly sucks. I survived and have never been happier in my retirement. My advice, don't do it! Pick a different field.
Ditto... 55 yr old, ASE master tech, GM (Chevy) tech since 1989, just quit in March 2023. Couldn't take it anymore. Watched the dealer hike the door rate over the years, recently to $160, but I went years between raises and had to beg for them. Cars are 3x as hard to work on as they were 20 years ago, and I'm not making 3x the money. My W2 income from 2006 was the same as 2021. Yes, in 15 years I had raises, but with how hard it is to fix the cars now and the labor times constantly shrinking, you have to work harder every year just to stay even. It's like treading water your whole life. Dealership doesn't care, just keep the labor rate high and screw the techs, boss needs his bonus! At some point, who is the bigger idiot? My boss that screwed me over bad enough to make me quit, or me for taking in the ass for the 20 years that I should have known better....
Wow. How much can a master tech take after all the years of stress, abuse and low pay. When it gets that bad its time to rethink for the sake of your health and family.@@Chevtec
I left this stupid "profession" many years ago. I paid for school, I paid for my tools, I provided the labor and the knowledge and the stealership takes 90%. They hire tons and tons of people to get cars in and out who gives a crap if they see 3 cars a day? Flat tire monitor cause someone didn't calibrate the sensors at PDI? No pay. My wipers are worn out! No pay. There are tons of stupid things that waste my time but the tech doesn't get any pay. Finally gets a good ticket, and then something else breaks completly not related to what was done. Oh hey lets "good will" the repair for free, we will charge the parts to the parts departments and the tech gets to "donate" the time. I spent forever chasing rattles and squeaks just to not get paid cause there was a pen or coin in a door dropped by a kid. The list goes on. Add to that crapshow, when it's slow even when we have 100 techs standing around doing NOTHING while not getting paid. We have to stay at work from open to close 6 days a week, 50-70 hours a week while only get paid to flag half that amount of work. So I MADE $40/hr but only flagged 35hr a week. Works out to about the same as working at Taco Bell. And then if THAT wasn't bad enough....when something does happen to a customer's car and the dealership decides the tech didn't fix whatever it was cause half the time you have to guess what's the actual problem, they backflag you and charge the tech for the parts. Yeah no thanks! I talk to every person I have ever talked to, to NOT getting into working on cars. There are TONS of jobs in many different industries that pay hourly making more than working on cars. So there is no super surprise there's a shortage of technicians. People spend 10-15mins with a doctor and assume because they have a doctorate they MUST know what's wrong when 90% of guess/intuition and throwing pills at the problem. Techs spend hours and hours fixing anything that people complain of anything and everything is wrong on their "baby" of a car and blame the tech for anything that happens. Find a different field to get into and stay as FAR away from fixing anything from people, they customer is NEVER right!!
@@jymrojas575 so true ! In fact I know techs who work completely from home . Most professional techs have there own equipment in which I think the garage owners are fools for not realizing that without the technician and his high end scan tools, multimeters and scopes they have absolutely nothing and with the technology now days it’s not very difficult to advertise and maybe flash some ase photos of your schooling and background to prove you are a pro . Now that all these techs are making more money from home then working in a shop they are crying why don’t you work for me ?. 😂
I was dating a female service manager that attended these dealer association meetings where they discussed and agreed to these wage fixing and no-poach rules.HARDCORE CARTEL CONDUCT! "Workers are entitled to the benefits of a competitive market for their services. They are harmed if companies that would ordinarily compete against each other to recruit and retain employees agree to fix wages or other terms of employment or enter into so-called “no-poaching” agreements by agreeing not to recruit each other’s employees. Going forward, the Justice Department intends to criminally investigate naked no-poaching or wage-fixing agreements that are unrelated or unnecessary to a larger legitimate collaboration between the employers. These types of agreements eliminate competition in the same irredeemable way as agreements to fix the prices of goods or allocate customers, which have traditionally been criminally investigated and prosecuted as hardcore cartel conduct."
That shit is fucking dumb!KGW just did an article on catching squawfish for money.Guys are making over 100k in less than 5 months just sitting on the river and drinking beer all day in the sun.
@@davidturczak7253 Not all problems are a 5 alarm fire either you don't need the top dog high $ rate mechanic for. I do all my own work at home for my own vehicles and others and i am not traditionally educated i dropped out of high school(none in my family know cars either and i got my license at 25) . Unless i need to take out a transmission or engine i will be able to handle it at least on cars that are not overly complex on the programming side. I like my 2010 subaru for that very reason lots of pros a few cons with those. I have about 1k worth of tools and with no lift i only have my good floor jack. I don't do this for a living and for a reason i have a feeling i would take a beating for my disadvantages though i still strive to get better(most jobs that are cost ing people 600 or so the intermediate repairs i can handle now headgaskets or transmission swap count me out i dont have equipment of proper experience yet)
Yea people don't understand how much of a grind things are not only mechanical skills but software and diagnostic skills. Idiot service management telling you just swap the injectors out etc without giving coding time
Yeah I laughed when she said that. Poor woman doesn't have a freaking clue!!!! And as I've stated above we who have been in the trade for decades have $100,000+ in our tool boxes
@@ronkitchen3231 it’s laughable that these trade schools and headhunters think they can still sucker people into this field with false promises. It doesn’t take 5+10yrs in to realize this is a dead end job anymore. A quick 5min search on the internet will show how bad the compensation/benefits are. Who do they think they’re fooling?
Forget it. Chances are, once you've finished your vocational training, you're going to end up at a dealership at 16-20 bucks an hour, under a no-compete clause... or some oil-change racket.
Your lying. No mechanic i ever met works hourly they work by the job some do get a flar rate like the lube techs but industry standard never puts techs or even service advisors on hourly they'd loose money if they did that all of them are per job percentage depending on the job.
@@robertwest4157 No one is coming out of vocational training and then starting a garage; they're going to WORK for a mechanic at an hourly rate, or for a dealership, at an hourly rate... maybe some side-hustle doing light-work on the weekends... at price. The amount of overhead required to run a garage is massive compared to other self-employable trades. Connect the dots.
So join macdonalds and after 2 years be a manager. Then switch to a garage and manager of shop mechanics... sounds like no college and no debt is the way.
Employers can't pay mechanics enough because customers don't appreciate the complexity of auto repair and refuse to pay anything more than the 1990 prices. Too many Auto Shops should have shut their doors but apparently they're content being non-profit organizations. This field is a dead end that will leave you broke.
The employers can but choose not to.The National Automobile Dealers Association has been criminally colluding to force the margins up on service labor so their sales are pure profits.The average gross profit margins on any skilled trade or professional service are ranging from 30-40%,a 36% average across all industries and healthcare and finance are at a very high 45% which indicates some criminal monkey business.These car crook dealers are over 75% now and they refuse to pay any techs over 25%.I started out at age 19 in 1985 at my first dealer for 50% of the $27 an hour shop rate.These creep car dealers are charging $179 an hour trying to pay techs $16-20 an hour NINETY FUCKING PERCENT GROSS MARGINS!
A 90% margin is actually about 12 times more.Cost markups go exponential over 50% margins.A competitive 36% margin is 72% over cost and 87% margin is 751%.WORSE THAN PHARMACEUTICALS! "Total Market*36.22%5.05%
I can print out and show it to you.NADA has given them directives to push over 75% margins.That's a fucking cartel.Their margins on parts average about 37% and have never deviated much but they decided to stick it to the labor.THEY ARE FULLY BLOWN FUCKING FIENDS!
Retired auto tech here, The pay is sucks, its no better than 20 to 25 years ago. And lets talk about massive tool investment. I predicted this mess 20 years ago
I tried to join the industry when I was 20. Went to school, am a fantastic mechanic. I saw very quickly the job sucks ass until you get seniority. I was looking at the master tech at 60+ years old still working around chemicals and shit. Until they fix the seniority issue it's kinda a losing deal when you can literally work at subway for $25/hr these days. I now own a shop and this should be definitely pushed more in automotive programs. Working for yourself is the way.
Worst career choice you can make you can literally go to work at a fast food restaurant and make more money I literally make the same wage I was back in 2000 I watch shop prices per hour go through the roof but mechanics wage has stayed the same
@@grumpyoldbugger you can write your tools off on your taxes as long as you're spending like over $5,000 the problem is the the pays not there last automotive shop I worked at was $120 an hour and I got paid $21 an hour I have a friend down towards la their shoprite's almost 200 bucks an hour he makes he makes 40 bucks an hour which town in California is not enough money to survive on not decently
@@U.s-epa Maximum deduction for eligible toolsFootnote1 = (A − B) + C where A = the total cost of eligible tools that you bought in 2022Footnote2 B = the lesser of: 1. the total cost of eligible tools that you bought in 2022 as calculated in A 2. the greater of: $500 + the Canada employment amount claimed on line 31260 of your income tax and benefit return (maximum $1,287) 5% of: your employment income as an eligible apprentice mechanic plus the amount you received in 2022 under the Apprenticeship Incentive Grant and the Apprenticeship Completion Grant programs minus any claim you made for the tradesperson's deduction for tools, and the amount of any Apprenticeship Incentive Grant and Apprenticeship Completion Grant overpayments that you had to repay in 2022 C = the amount, if any, of the maximum deduction for eligible tools that you calculated for 2021 that you did not claim in 2021 (your carry forward amount from 2021, if any)
@@grumpyoldbugger writing off tool’s doesn’t make a dent . The problem is pay . Now we have ev coming into the play and a gm, ford or Chrysler ev is not a Tesla it’s a joke . 😂
22 year Diesel Mechanic here. Seniority means nothing anymore. With the shortage. Everyone does the same work. I get to pick and choose. But still. Shops cheat and got rid of shop Foreman. My dream was to get off the floor by my 40s. Nope. Still in the floor. You will never get promoted if you are awesome at your job. You have to be at the right place at the right time. When I started out. Old timers did not do dirty work or work weekends or holidays. Most were in charge. Them days are long gone..
I'm sure there's a demand now, but perhaps people don't want to go into an industry in states like Oregon, California and Washington which are banning the sales of these types of gas cars in 12 years. The only skills that really transfer are body work. Personally I wouldn't suggest it as a long term career and it's not worth learning everything for short term.
@@karlabritfeld7104 Oh, is that what you got from that? I thought I was saying it would be better to go into a different profession that doesn't have an expiration date rapidly approaching, not sit on a corner begging. Oregon doesn't want fossil burning cars, so fix your own when it breaks down.
They can ban the sale of new cars. Next time you are driving pay attention to the amount of cars obviously from the 80's and 90's. it will be 30 years or more after the ban, before there was no gas cars on the road.
Times are about to change, and cars will probably be phased out. However, I think some other transferable skills would be HVAC, Electrical, and the new EV servicing.
Consultants and customer service don't need to be paid more than the techs. You don't see a receptionist making more than the doctor doing the surgery.
This always boggled my mind. The mechanics are the ones generating the income for the shop. The service writer is not a skilled sales profession, it's a glorified receptionist.
People who have never turned a wrench commenting about shop jobs 😂😂😂😂 get yourself a $60k snap on Debt at $350 a month then add all your travel expenses plus your scan tool subscriptions. Then get greeted with $13 an hour for 2 years before any promotions
I feel these newer cars that are complex with all these electronics, computers and sensors will be a thing of the past. The techs that work on them will be a small group. My advice would be to tell others keep the old cars that are less modernized with tech and electronics. The costs will be much lower if properly maintained.
60,000 to 100,000 dollar-a-year blog. Not happening.😂 I just quit as a Ford senior master journeyman Union technician at San Francisco Ford and was making $36.45 an hour and it was nowhere near $60,000 a year much less 100.000! And that's about the highest-paying wage in the country for auto/ diesel
@@joelopez40oz23 Where I California and what dealership?? My current goal is to be a 6 figure mechanic Last year I made 85k in los Angeles flagging as well.
Being an auto tech is a horrible job. You have to purchase your own tools, mediocre benefits, cut and dirty hands. If you're an auto tech in Portland, go work at Intel for a tool vendor. Best decision I made. Ended up making over 100k in my third year.
Grandad had a wrecking yard, we had so much fun. I busted open a trunk one day, of an old car we were scrapping. In that trunk, was “a set of moldy nail bags/a 28oz. framing hammer/tri square/goof spoon”. I took them up to a friend who was framing houses in a subdivision, thinking he could use them. He pointed at two human looking apes across the street, and told me, “they would pay me five bucks an hour to help them”. Retired @ $37.50hr, journeyman carpenter/general contractor. Anything can happen. Older brother (rip) stayed in the junkyard. Very hard, in every way, on everybody. He suffered a lot. Cheers, good luck!
@@dfirth224 licenced plumbers and electricians can easily make over 100k in a year. That would be a great entry from being an auto tech. An entry level auto tech will make less than 22/hr and are expected to purchase thousand of dollars in tools. I work on my own Mercedes. Take a look at my channels videos and you'll see multiple tutorials on repairs I've made. EV don't require regular maintenance. In the 5 year ownership of my Nissan leaf EV, it's only required a 12volt battery and windshield washer fluid.
How about the fact that cars are becoming less repairable. 2 auto parts yards just shut down within 2months in my area. The local garages are looking for work. The car parts department of our local store now orders almost every part, not stocking them. It's all part of the throw away society.
Dealer in Eureka charging $179 an hour trying to pay $16-20 an hour and the $20 is for someone with an AS in auto.Tacobell across the street pays $15.50 with tuition assistance,health,same day pay and free tacos.The auto biz is pure scum!
The problem is that newer cars suck to work on. They are overcomplicated, and filled with too much electronic junk. Cars from the 70s, 80s, and even 90s are fun to work on, easy to fix, and easy to keep going. Newer cars are not that way. People who enjoy working on cars enough to make a career out of it don't want to work on the cars that go in for service today.
@@karlabritfeld7104 Cuba did that because they had no choice while the US prevented them from trading with other countries. There are, however, lots of people in the US who maintain order vehicles because they're cheaper, easier and more fun to keep on the road.
Do not listen to this paid garbage. I tell everybody I can stay away from this industry. The only thing you will have to show for it is a bad back, banged up hands and 5-6 figures in tools that you’ll never get your money back for. For all the young guys stay away from this field and ESPECIALLY STAY AWAY FROM THE DEALERS AND BIG CHAINS IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH INTACT! YOU WILL NEVER GET PAID WHAT YOUR WORTH! If you absolutely do decide to take this route, find local government fleet maintenance work on police cruisers, trucks, trains, etc. Get in and get your feet wet to move up the ranks! These are the only positions that have decent and consistent pay with good benefits and retirement! Good luck to you ALL!
Try having 100k in tools and equipment to only make $30 an hr flat rate time also be taxed on your labor 🤷🏻♂️Also dont forget about the time and currency for the education to know how to do all of these things🤷🏻♂️. Right there is somebody in there I have a package for Taylor.
Another issue is EVs. Some will be attracted to that, but many who like ICE cars will be further discouraged from being a tech. EVs have less parts and are presumably easier to repair. Plus, everything proprietary and expensive making it less fun. Barrier to being a tech likely lowered further leading to lower starting pay. Still there's a lot of ICE cars out there and someone needs to keep them maintained. So, there's opportunity, but the perception is it's dirty work that pays little more than big stores and warehouse work. Many look down on the trades which further discourages interest.
There still a lot of professional auto techs still in the industry but most of them are working out of there home garages . They are doing much better than a lot who actually work full time at a shop someplace. It’s pretty easy to do now that a lot of the equipment has become portable and affordable.
@@davidturczak7253 There are 21.1 million people in the U.S. with a BA or higher in science and engineering that don't want to fix plastic junk under warranty for no money either.THERE IS NOT A TECHNICIAN SHORTAGE they only have a shortage of young,dumb and cheap.This whole thing is a criminal wage suppression scheme and they are trying to control the supply and demand of labor.
Uninterruptible power supply techs are getting paid twice as much with only 6 months of school.They are just DC battery packs same as an EV but they don't have ADAS,ABS,TCS,HVAC,infotainment or navigation systems.Even Tesla is paying their Powerwall techs better than their EV techs and Powerwalls can't even drive themselves.American is a fucking penal colony!
I wrenched on 70's shit boxes when I was in highschool in early 2000's. thought I would get into working on cars as a career. did a few repairs on modern cars, forget that. Now I make bank sitting on my ass in IT and work on 70's shitboxes for fun. The career isn't fun and not rewarding enough financially.
I dont think Pay itself is the main problem. i think its couple things I speak only why i left . I live in EU. 1. cars these are complex and require more time to fix and often person experinced in such field of repair 2.work environment its noise,dirty,oily, you work with heat,heavy lifting often, some repair are just tough to figure out in small time ,you need to spend years in the field to get experinced cause its so much electrical problems 3.Salaries vs the work for the work experince,work environment,stress mainwhile you can similar job and arrive clean from home with less stress,higher salary 4. these days its harder to get information from dealership about complex repairs especially in heavy equitment .(but oppsite with car its easier to find information on youtube or google. 5. Cars these days are so poorly made and designed&engineered(mostly). I dont plan on return to that field in near future.
I advise anybody who will listen NOT to be a mechanic You do so much free work under warranty The average pay is 40k a year! HVAC pays close to 100k Only one week vacation even if there 10 years, no holidays paid, and Dealerships treat techs like shit. Then all is great until something goes wrong, then you are called a liar and a thief Chrysler owes me 250k for 20 years of free warranty work. Sure work for years doing free work and work yourself up to do MORE free work. PAY up suckers!
Stop the CAP 60 to 100k is not even livable nor close to what youll actualy be making with less than 5 years hands on experience. This industry needs to stop lying to its consumers.
You people are talking to the wrong people, Need to interview Master (20 plus years) techs and Apprentice techs. The bottom line for the technicians leaving the industry is FLAT RATE system does not work in todays industry with cars that talk to you and park for you etc.
Demonize trade work for decades and act shocked when people don’t want to go into the trades. Treat tradesmen like we’re sub-human and act confounded when we say we don’t appreciate it. Pay us like you think every technician is exactly the same and replaceable and act befuddled when we leave the industry and leave you to figure it out yourselves. YOU need US, not the other way around. We will be fine without you, we’re handy like that.
Honestly there's a massive demand for technicians. There's a huge push to unionize crappy service jobs, learn some skills and make yourself indispensable.
Huge push to unionize jobs like Starbucks for safer working condition and higher pay with the only qualifications needed is able to see the "Push here" button to make a cup of latte. Why would anyone want to torture themselves to learn to be an auto mechanic?
@@maestrovso Why? Because making yourself independent through education with a skilled profession you can take anywhere is liberating... Dealing with an endless lines of Karens, with highly specific orders- is torture.
As a former mechanic, I tell EVERYONE that will listen to AVOID becoming a mechanic. There are so many negative aspects of working as a mechanic, including flat rate pay system, warranty pay, buying tools, etc. I could go on for hours. There is no shortage of mechanics, just a shortage of decent pay and working conditions. So many smart guys have left the industry. It's so bad, it's to the point where even dealerships can't fix cars because all their best techs have left.
My mobile mechanic is constantly growing…but I sell services in 3 different cities with 4 mobile techs and work on the cars too … plus I split job orders 50% with techs if they sell the job so corporate greed is the only thing that keeps techs away….Why don’t they ever interview the mechanics forget the manager or service advisor they work on sales commission not labor
It’s really getting worse. The cars are so complicated and difficult to work on. Techs buy their own tools and 50,000 in tools is about average. It’s tough and harder as mechanics get older. Not many guys can keep up the pace in their 50’s!
The stealer ship gets you on the lot, but the tech even harder in the shop. I’ve had several kids come in and work on heavy equipment. They have terrible horror stories. In heavy equipment we have a flat rate but we are paid by the hour and it stays the same whether it is warranty work or standard work. If they paid us by the job let’s say a rebuild that averages 350k at 5% that’s roughly 17k and it has a time frame of 6 to 8 weeks. You do the math. It’s way cheaper to pay us by the hour! Automotive isn’t where it’s at if you want to have a steady paycheck. In automotive they get paid by the job not the hour and shop rates vary. If the tech screws up they have to go back and fix it again free of charge on the labor. That’s not the case in the heavy equipment world.
60-100k if you work at an always busy shop and have seniority and work open to close without days off in a high stress, dog-eat-dog environment... dude, its not worth it. 10+ year mechanic here, worked at corporate shops all during that time. Go in, learn your skill sets, and get out as fast as you can. The same skills are easily transfered to other significantly higher paid industries.
Why don't you go into business for yourself? We consumers look for "shade tree" mechanics all day! We're tired of going into shops with squeeking rear breaks and coming out with a bill for thousands worth of scams repairs we don't need. I had to drive to five, yes FIVE shops with all different estimates ranging from $600-$2,800. Finally went to Yelp and found a guy that used to work for Toyota that fixed my brakes for half the cost of the lowest estimate and checked the belts one shop lied about, told me none of those jobs were not due for at least 50k more miles. Went to Acura to have them take a look at the breaks and belts and they said "everything looks great!". I refered him to my parents and two co- workers. Dude had jobs for the next few weekends and is our go to mechanic. Get in the game, please! We need you!
I was an auto tech for 25 years and I can say from my heart DO NOT GET INTO THIS TRADE! there are so much better options out there that pay more and have better benefits for you.
Can our government subsidize a program for experienced technicians who want to open up their own shop? A huge problem with the auto tech shortage is born from ill will from dealerships. Even the guys making over $100,000 have huge grievances from dealerships. The money might be good but dealerships can't help but abuse their employees. And rather than find ourselves with broken cars and no one to fix them - create the shops with low low interest government loans?
60 to 100k a year is a joke for the amount of tools and knowledge that the tech has to have,I've been a tech for 30 plus years and regret choosing this as a career, the other thing is working for the lying dealerships that will out right screw there technicians and baby the management people,l know for a fact there's fleet managers at ford dealerships making 500k per year and other management people making 150k a year with nothing invested!! anyone that reads this needs to talk to technicians before going down this slippery slope
I agree with every point there, especially bad management and my big hate ,Customers !, I actually loathe every Customer that comes through the door !,everyone wants everything for nothing and thinks it's acceptable to abuse everyone within the industry.
The problem is manufacture pay flate rate time that they control if their technician get good a some thing they cut the time and make hard make hard to make a living, every month in dealer ship you got keep upgrading training that they don’t pay for, tools you need to do the job are fucking expenses, and you look down on compare to suit and tie sales guy
It also takes many years to good at this job, then for your full commitment of tools you need to purchase and daily training up dates and yearly training courses, lost sleep try to forget about the shit job you have, because of the lack of respect you receive from your employer and sh#t pay and sh#t conditions you work in, and the tea lady gets better pay then you do wake up !!!
Its becuase yall make it a fucking game to work on anything spend money here got to know this so spend more money and after 4 years you will finally get paid a quarter of what you spent just to get a licence
with the same skills you can do other work that pays better and you dont have all the bad stuff like breaking your back all the toxic gasses and other stuff no dont into car repair use your skills for a other tech job
Good luck portland, even Walmart has moved away. because you made crime legal. Plus your tax is High and your retirement pay is out of control. you made your bed now lay in it.
Ummm.. This "SHORTAGE" been going on Ever since the 1990s.. Its a skilled trade that is NOT viewed or treated as a skill trade, untill some dumb asses vehicle breaks down... Just a 30-plus year observation..
I have yet to see a news clip asking technicians who left _WHY_ they left.
67 year old retired GM dealer tech as of 2019. ASE Master tech with diesel and L1 additional. worked at 6 different dealerships through my career. Reasons for having a bad opinion of auto mechanical field is low pay, constant stress, no appreciation, hazard filled work environment, extreme noise damaging hearing, chemicals everywhere, rigged payment system, high insurance cost. It was fun back in the 1970's but you are doing engineer work these days for fast food wages. I programmed computer modules, electrical, drivability, brakes, alignments, tuneups, diagnostics for everything. It wasn't worth it. Some of my friends have had an early death because of it. The smart ones switched careers 20 years ago. I still fix imaginary vehicles in my sleep. That truly sucks. I survived and have never been happier in my retirement. My advice, don't do it! Pick a different field.
Ditto...
55 yr old, ASE master tech, GM (Chevy) tech since 1989, just quit in March 2023. Couldn't take it anymore. Watched the dealer hike the door rate over the years, recently to $160, but I went years between raises and had to beg for them. Cars are 3x as hard to work on as they were 20 years ago, and I'm not making 3x the money. My W2 income from 2006 was the same as 2021. Yes, in 15 years I had raises, but with how hard it is to fix the cars now and the labor times constantly shrinking, you have to work harder every year just to stay even. It's like treading water your whole life. Dealership doesn't care, just keep the labor rate high and screw the techs, boss needs his bonus! At some point, who is the bigger idiot? My boss that screwed me over bad enough to make me quit, or me for taking in the ass for the 20 years that I should have known better....
@@Chevtec You speak the truth. Knowledge is power. Don't be afraid to change careers if things aren't working out.
Ditto
Same as being an Aircraft machanic
Wow. How much can a master tech take after all the years of stress, abuse and low pay. When it gets that bad its time to rethink for the sake of your health and family.@@Chevtec
I left this stupid "profession" many years ago. I paid for school, I paid for my tools, I provided the labor and the knowledge and the stealership takes 90%. They hire tons and tons of people to get cars in and out who gives a crap if they see 3 cars a day? Flat tire monitor cause someone didn't calibrate the sensors at PDI? No pay. My wipers are worn out! No pay. There are tons of stupid things that waste my time but the tech doesn't get any pay. Finally gets a good ticket, and then something else breaks completly not related to what was done. Oh hey lets "good will" the repair for free, we will charge the parts to the parts departments and the tech gets to "donate" the time. I spent forever chasing rattles and squeaks just to not get paid cause there was a pen or coin in a door dropped by a kid. The list goes on.
Add to that crapshow, when it's slow even when we have 100 techs standing around doing NOTHING while not getting paid. We have to stay at work from open to close 6 days a week, 50-70 hours a week while only get paid to flag half that amount of work. So I MADE $40/hr but only flagged 35hr a week. Works out to about the same as working at Taco Bell. And then if THAT wasn't bad enough....when something does happen to a customer's car and the dealership decides the tech didn't fix whatever it was cause half the time you have to guess what's the actual problem, they backflag you and charge the tech for the parts. Yeah no thanks! I talk to every person I have ever talked to, to NOT getting into working on cars. There are TONS of jobs in many different industries that pay hourly making more than working on cars. So there is no super surprise there's a shortage of technicians.
People spend 10-15mins with a doctor and assume because they have a doctorate they MUST know what's wrong when 90% of guess/intuition and throwing pills at the problem. Techs spend hours and hours fixing anything that people complain of anything and everything is wrong on their "baby" of a car and blame the tech for anything that happens. Find a different field to get into and stay as FAR away from fixing anything from people, they customer is NEVER right!!
You must work in the bay next to me, cuz it's the same shit here!
@@scrappy7571😂. So true. Don't forget when they underbid the job and bitch about your efficiency.
The problem is that big company dealerships don’t pay enough when everything becomes warranty and small independent shops want to pay the bare minimum
You make more money doing side jobs
@@jymrojas575 so true ! In fact I know techs who work completely from home . Most professional techs have there own equipment in which I think the garage owners are fools for not realizing that without the technician and his high end scan tools, multimeters and scopes they have absolutely nothing and with the technology now days it’s not very difficult to advertise and maybe flash some ase photos of your schooling and background to prove you are a pro . Now that all these techs are making more money from home then working in a shop they are crying why don’t you work for me ?. 😂
I was dating a female service manager that attended these dealer association meetings where they discussed and agreed to these wage fixing and no-poach rules.HARDCORE CARTEL CONDUCT! "Workers are entitled to the benefits of a competitive market for their services. They are harmed if companies that would ordinarily compete against each other to recruit and retain employees agree to fix wages or other terms of employment or enter into so-called “no-poaching” agreements by agreeing not to recruit each other’s employees.
Going forward, the Justice Department intends to criminally investigate naked no-poaching or wage-fixing agreements that are unrelated or unnecessary to a larger legitimate collaboration between the employers. These types of agreements eliminate competition in the same irredeemable way as agreements to fix the prices of goods or allocate customers, which have traditionally been criminally investigated and prosecuted as hardcore cartel conduct."
That shit is fucking dumb!KGW just did an article on catching squawfish for money.Guys are making over 100k in less than 5 months just sitting on the river and drinking beer all day in the sun.
@@davidturczak7253 Not all problems are a 5 alarm fire either you don't need the top dog high $ rate mechanic for. I do all my own work at home for my own vehicles and others and i am not traditionally educated i dropped out of high school(none in my family know cars either and i got my license at 25) . Unless i need to take out a transmission or engine i will be able to handle it at least on cars that are not overly complex on the programming side. I like my 2010 subaru for that very reason lots of pros a few cons with those. I have about 1k worth of tools and with no lift i only have my good floor jack. I don't do this for a living and for a reason i have a feeling i would take a beating for my disadvantages though i still strive to get better(most jobs that are cost ing people 600 or so the intermediate repairs i can handle now headgaskets or transmission swap count me out i dont have equipment of proper experience yet)
There isn't a tech shortage. There is a pay shortage.
$60k-$100k a year😂😂😂😂 you can google the national average and it’s $35k-$65k and that’s not accounting for tool cost.
76k last year I predict 85k this year depending on how the slow holiday season goes, here in los Angeles CA
@@reddbull3876 are you bragging that you make that kind of money in Los Angeles? That sounds pretty low for that area.
Yea people don't understand how much of a grind things are not only mechanical skills but software and diagnostic skills. Idiot service management telling you just swap the injectors out etc without giving coding time
Yeah I laughed when she said that. Poor woman doesn't have a freaking clue!!!! And as I've stated above we who have been in the trade for decades have $100,000+ in our tool boxes
@@ronkitchen3231 it’s laughable that these trade schools and headhunters think they can still sucker people into this field with false promises. It doesn’t take 5+10yrs in to realize this is a dead end job anymore. A quick 5min search on the internet will show how bad the compensation/benefits are. Who do they think they’re fooling?
Forget it. Chances are, once you've finished your vocational training, you're going to end up at a dealership at 16-20 bucks an hour, under a no-compete clause... or some oil-change racket.
Your lying. No mechanic i ever met works hourly they work by the job some do get a flar rate like the lube techs but industry standard never puts techs or even service advisors on hourly they'd loose money if they did that all of them are per job percentage depending on the job.
DON'T SIGN ANY OF THEIR BULLSHIT!
@@robertwest4157 No one is coming out of vocational training and then starting a garage; they're going to WORK for a mechanic at an hourly rate, or for a dealership, at an hourly rate... maybe some side-hustle doing light-work on the weekends... at price. The amount of overhead required to run a garage is massive compared to other self-employable trades. Connect the dots.
So join macdonalds and after 2 years be a manager. Then switch to a garage and manager of shop mechanics... sounds like no college and no debt is the way.
Employers can't pay mechanics enough because customers don't appreciate the complexity of auto repair and refuse to pay anything more than the 1990 prices. Too many Auto Shops should have shut their doors but apparently they're content being non-profit organizations. This field is a dead end that will leave you broke.
The employers can but choose not to.The National Automobile Dealers Association has been criminally colluding to force the margins up on service labor so their sales are pure profits.The average gross profit margins on any skilled trade or professional service are ranging from 30-40%,a 36% average across all industries and healthcare and finance are at a very high 45% which indicates some criminal monkey business.These car crook dealers are over 75% now and they refuse to pay any techs over 25%.I started out at age 19 in 1985 at my first dealer for 50% of the $27 an hour shop rate.These creep car dealers are charging $179 an hour trying to pay techs $16-20 an hour NINETY FUCKING PERCENT GROSS MARGINS!
A 90% margin is actually about 12 times more.Cost markups go exponential over 50% margins.A competitive 36% margin is 72% over cost and 87% margin is 751%.WORSE THAN PHARMACEUTICALS!
"Total Market*36.22%5.05%
Everybody is retarded now!
Show me any skilled trade that pays less than 50%.
I can print out and show it to you.NADA has given them directives to push over 75% margins.That's a fucking cartel.Their margins on parts average about 37% and have never deviated much but they decided to stick it to the labor.THEY ARE FULLY BLOWN FUCKING FIENDS!
Retired auto tech here, The pay is sucks, its no better than 20 to 25 years ago. And lets talk about massive tool investment. I predicted this mess 20 years ago
I tried to join the industry when I was 20. Went to school, am a fantastic mechanic. I saw very quickly the job sucks ass until you get seniority. I was looking at the master tech at 60+ years old still working around chemicals and shit. Until they fix the seniority issue it's kinda a losing deal when you can literally work at subway for $25/hr these days. I now own a shop and this should be definitely pushed more in automotive programs. Working for yourself is the way.
No mechanics because they ran them all off with low wages and contracts..
Exactly. People joining automotive and diesel are in for a sad awakening.
This job is under paid. you need expensive tools and lots of knowledge and experience for such a low paying wage not worth it.
Right, we spend 100,000+ for tools, get ripped off constantly, it's no damned wonder techs are leaving this trade.
Worst career choice you can make you can literally go to work at a fast food restaurant and make more money I literally make the same wage I was back in 2000 I watch shop prices per hour go through the roof but mechanics wage has stayed the same
Mechanics need to be able to write tools off on their taxes.
@@grumpyoldbugger you can write your tools off on your taxes as long as you're spending like over $5,000 the problem is the the pays not there last automotive shop I worked at was $120 an hour and I got paid $21 an hour I have a friend down towards la their shoprite's almost 200 bucks an hour he makes he makes 40 bucks an hour which town in California is not enough money to survive on not decently
@@grumpyoldbugger you can........
@@U.s-epa Maximum deduction for eligible toolsFootnote1 = (A − B) + C
where
A = the total cost of eligible tools that you bought in 2022Footnote2
B = the lesser of:
1. the total cost of eligible tools that you bought in 2022 as calculated in A
2. the greater of:
$500 + the Canada employment amount claimed on line 31260 of your income tax and benefit return (maximum $1,287)
5% of:
your employment income as an eligible apprentice mechanic
plus the amount you received in 2022 under the Apprenticeship Incentive Grant and the Apprenticeship Completion Grant programs
minus any claim you made for the tradesperson's deduction for tools, and the amount of any Apprenticeship Incentive Grant and Apprenticeship Completion Grant overpayments that you had to repay in 2022
C = the amount, if any, of the maximum deduction for eligible tools that you calculated for 2021 that you did not claim in 2021 (your carry forward amount from 2021, if any)
@@grumpyoldbugger writing off tool’s doesn’t make a dent . The problem is pay . Now we have ev coming into the play and a gm, ford or Chrysler ev is not a Tesla it’s a joke . 😂
22 year Diesel Mechanic here. Seniority means nothing anymore. With the shortage. Everyone does the same work. I get to pick and choose. But still. Shops cheat and got rid of shop Foreman. My dream was to get off the floor by my 40s. Nope. Still in the floor. You will never get promoted if you are awesome at your job. You have to be at the right place at the right time. When I started out. Old timers did not do dirty work or work weekends or holidays. Most were in charge. Them days are long gone..
YOU NEED TO PAY 100,000.00 A YR TO START FOR SO LONG THEY BEEN CHEATING THE MECHANIC
I'm sure there's a demand now, but perhaps people don't want to go into an industry in states like Oregon, California and Washington which are banning the sales of these types of gas cars in 12 years. The only skills that really transfer are body work. Personally I wouldn't suggest it as a long term career and it's not worth learning everything for short term.
Might as well just sit on a street corner and beg for spare change instead, huh?
@@karlabritfeld7104 Oh, is that what you got from that? I thought I was saying it would be better to go into a different profession that doesn't have an expiration date rapidly approaching, not sit on a corner begging. Oregon doesn't want fossil burning cars, so fix your own when it breaks down.
@@karlabritfeld7104 yeah pretty much . 😂 😂 😂
They can ban the sale of new cars. Next time you are driving pay attention to the amount of cars obviously from the 80's and 90's. it will be 30 years or more after the ban, before there was no gas cars on the road.
Times are about to change, and cars will probably be phased out. However, I think some other transferable skills would be HVAC, Electrical, and the new EV servicing.
Consultants and customer service don't need to be paid more than the techs. You don't see a receptionist making more than the doctor doing the surgery.
This always boggled my mind. The mechanics are the ones generating the income for the shop. The service writer is not a skilled sales profession, it's a glorified receptionist.
People who have never turned a wrench commenting about shop jobs 😂😂😂😂 get yourself a $60k snap on Debt at $350 a month then add all your travel expenses plus your scan tool subscriptions. Then get greeted with $13 an hour for 2 years before any promotions
I feel these newer cars that are complex with all these electronics, computers and sensors will be a thing of the past. The techs that work on them will be a small group. My advice would be to tell others keep the old cars that are less modernized with tech and electronics. The costs will be much lower if properly maintained.
60,000 to 100,000 dollar-a-year blog. Not happening.😂 I just quit as a Ford senior master journeyman Union technician at San Francisco Ford and was making $36.45 an hour and it was nowhere near $60,000 a year much less 100.000! And that's about the highest-paying wage in the country for auto/ diesel
I make 100k in California at a dealership working flat rate
@@joelopez40oz23 I made 80K 20 years ago and i wasn t that fast
@@joelopez40oz23
Where I California and what dealership??
My current goal is to be a 6 figure mechanic
Last year I made 85k in los Angeles flagging as well.
Being an auto tech is a horrible job. You have to purchase your own tools, mediocre benefits, cut and dirty hands.
If you're an auto tech in Portland, go work at Intel for a tool vendor. Best decision I made. Ended up making over 100k in my third year.
Plumbers and electricians also have to buy their own tools. BTW, WHO fixes YOUR car?? Electric cars also need repairs and regular maintenance.
Grandad had a wrecking yard, we had so much fun. I busted open a trunk one day, of an old car we were scrapping. In that trunk, was “a set of moldy nail bags/a 28oz. framing hammer/tri square/goof spoon”. I took them up to a friend who was framing houses in a subdivision, thinking he could use them. He pointed at two human looking apes across the street, and told me, “they would pay me five bucks an hour to help them”. Retired @ $37.50hr, journeyman carpenter/general contractor. Anything can happen. Older brother (rip) stayed in the junkyard. Very hard, in every way, on everybody. He suffered a lot.
Cheers, good luck!
Some people love working on machines. My friend was a diesel mechanic his entire life and loved it.
@@dfirth224 licenced plumbers and electricians can easily make over 100k in a year. That would be a great entry from being an auto tech. An entry level auto tech will make less than 22/hr and are expected to purchase thousand of dollars in tools.
I work on my own Mercedes. Take a look at my channels videos and you'll see multiple tutorials on repairs I've made.
EV don't require regular maintenance. In the 5 year ownership of my Nissan leaf EV, it's only required a 12volt battery and windshield washer fluid.
it's a great job, they can't outsource the job. You buy your tools, but you keep them for life.
How about the fact that cars are becoming less repairable. 2 auto parts yards just shut down within 2months in my area. The local garages are looking for work. The car parts department of our local store now orders almost every part, not stocking them. It's all part of the throw away society.
Warranty work and flat rate are the killers.
In California one of the biggest problems is wage theft, if mechanics use own tools they are entitled to double minimum wage this is not enforced.
Dealer in Eureka charging $179 an hour trying to pay $16-20 an hour and the $20 is for someone with an AS in auto.Tacobell across the street pays $15.50 with tuition assistance,health,same day pay and free tacos.The auto biz is pure scum!
$8 for a pack of slimy hotdogs.
@@joebrenner4428 Pure scum, you are being polite
The problem is that newer cars suck to work on. They are overcomplicated, and filled with too much electronic junk. Cars from the 70s, 80s, and even 90s are fun to work on, easy to fix, and easy to keep going. Newer cars are not that way. People who enjoy working on cars enough to make a career out of it don't want to work on the cars that go in for service today.
Yes look at how Cuba is keeping the 60+ year old cars running and in good shape. Admirable. This country throws them out.
@@karlabritfeld7104 Cuba did that because they had no choice while the US prevented them from trading with other countries.
There are, however, lots of people in the US who maintain order vehicles because they're cheaper, easier and more fun to keep on the road.
Do not listen to this paid garbage. I tell everybody I can stay away from this industry. The only thing you will have to show for it is a bad back, banged up hands and 5-6 figures in tools that you’ll never get your money back for. For all the young guys stay away from this field and ESPECIALLY STAY AWAY FROM THE DEALERS AND BIG CHAINS IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH INTACT! YOU WILL NEVER GET PAID WHAT YOUR WORTH! If you absolutely do decide to take this route, find local government fleet maintenance work on police cruisers, trucks, trains, etc. Get in and get your feet wet to move up the ranks! These are the only positions that have decent and consistent pay with good benefits and retirement! Good luck to you ALL!
Try having 100k in tools and equipment to only make $30 an hr flat rate time also be taxed on your labor 🤷🏻♂️Also dont forget about the time and currency for the education to know how to do all of these things🤷🏻♂️. Right there is somebody in there I have a package for Taylor.
Another issue is EVs. Some will be attracted to that, but many who like ICE cars will be further discouraged from being a tech. EVs have less parts and are presumably easier to repair. Plus, everything proprietary and expensive making it less fun. Barrier to being a tech likely lowered further leading to lower starting pay. Still there's a lot of ICE cars out there and someone needs to keep them maintained. So, there's opportunity, but the perception is it's dirty work that pays little more than big stores and warehouse work. Many look down on the trades which further discourages interest.
Best to do nothing, huh? Sit on a street corner and beg.
@@karlabritfeld7104 Like there aren't shortages in all the other skilled trades that are paying much better.
There still a lot of professional auto techs still in the industry but most of them are working out of there home garages . They are doing much better than a lot who actually work full time at a shop someplace. It’s pretty easy to do now that a lot of the equipment has become portable and affordable.
@@davidturczak7253 There are 21.1 million people in the U.S. with a BA or higher in science and engineering that don't want to fix plastic junk under warranty for no money either.THERE IS NOT A TECHNICIAN SHORTAGE they only have a shortage of young,dumb and cheap.This whole thing is a criminal wage suppression scheme and they are trying to control the supply and demand of labor.
Uninterruptible power supply techs are getting paid twice as much with only 6 months of school.They are just DC battery packs same as an EV but they don't have ADAS,ABS,TCS,HVAC,infotainment or navigation systems.Even Tesla is paying their Powerwall techs better than their EV techs and Powerwalls can't even drive themselves.American is a fucking penal colony!
I wrenched on 70's shit boxes when I was in highschool in early 2000's. thought I would get into working on cars as a career. did a few repairs on modern cars, forget that. Now I make bank sitting on my ass in IT and work on 70's shitboxes for fun. The career isn't fun and not rewarding enough financially.
Let’s see as a former tech lets see 🤔 PLAY MORE !! No more flat rate!!!! And no more toxic work place
I dont think Pay itself is the main problem. i think its couple things I speak only why i left . I live in EU.
1. cars these are complex and require more time to fix and often person experinced in such field of repair
2.work environment its noise,dirty,oily, you work with heat,heavy lifting often, some repair are just tough to figure out in small time ,you need to spend years in the field to get experinced cause its so much electrical problems
3.Salaries vs the work for the work experince,work environment,stress mainwhile you can similar job and arrive clean from home with less stress,higher salary
4. these days its harder to get information from dealership about complex repairs especially in heavy equitment .(but oppsite with car its easier to find information on youtube or google.
5. Cars these days are so poorly made and designed&engineered(mostly).
I dont plan on return to that field in near future.
From a 10 year vet! Don’t become a mechanic!!!!!! Literally do any other blue color trade! Trust
THERE’S GONNA BE A SHORTAGE OF CITIZENS VERY SOON,, PORTLAND IS DYING
Good
Little money and no respect turning wrenches ! Education and Tools can easily set you back 30 to 50 thousand dollars before you earn a pay check.
everyone hates this job - cars are built so poorly, they make crap hr wage, pay mechanics 140,000$ a year n ill be there.
I advise anybody who will listen NOT to be a mechanic You do so much free work under warranty The average pay is 40k a year! HVAC pays close to 100k Only one week vacation even if there 10 years, no holidays paid, and Dealerships treat techs like shit. Then all is great until something goes wrong, then you are called a liar and a thief Chrysler owes me 250k for 20 years of free warranty work. Sure work for years doing free work and work yourself up to do MORE free work. PAY up suckers!
GM owes me a shit ton too!!
Stop the CAP 60 to 100k is not even livable nor close to what youll actualy be making with less than 5 years hands on experience. This industry needs to stop lying to its consumers.
if you're smart enough to be a master tech, you can make more with less hassles doing other things.
Pay us more we cant have 10 years experience with all ases and still get paid 40$ flag
Huge overhead, poor work environment, and RUclips armed customers?
Glad I retire in 3 years.
You people are talking to the wrong people, Need to interview Master (20 plus years) techs and Apprentice techs. The bottom line for the technicians leaving the industry is FLAT RATE system does not work in todays industry with cars that talk to you and park for you etc.
Demonize trade work for decades and act shocked when people don’t want to go into the trades. Treat tradesmen like we’re sub-human and act confounded when we say we don’t appreciate it. Pay us like you think every technician is exactly the same and replaceable and act befuddled when we leave the industry and leave you to figure it out yourselves. YOU need US, not the other way around. We will be fine without you, we’re handy like that.
Fix your own car! The mechanics today SUCK!!
Do you?
There is no incentive to be a "good" mechanic.
@@karlabritfeld7104 Bloody right I do! mechanics today don't know SHIT!
The good ones left for better paying careers
Honestly there's a massive demand for technicians. There's a huge push to unionize crappy service jobs, learn some skills and make yourself indispensable.
Huge push to unionize jobs like Starbucks for safer working condition and higher pay with the only qualifications needed is able to see the "Push here" button to make a cup of latte. Why would anyone want to torture themselves to learn to be an auto mechanic?
@@maestrovso Why? Because making yourself independent through education with a skilled profession you can take anywhere is liberating... Dealing with an endless lines of Karens, with highly specific orders- is torture.
Excellent.
@@maestrovsoit's people like you who don't want to work.
@@karlabritfeld7104 Some people just don't get sarcasm.
I can make more money stealing the car than fixing it in PDX.
As a former mechanic, I tell EVERYONE that will listen to AVOID becoming a mechanic. There are so many negative aspects of working as a mechanic, including flat rate pay system, warranty pay, buying tools, etc. I could go on for hours. There is no shortage of mechanics, just a shortage of decent pay and working conditions.
So many smart guys have left the industry. It's so bad, it's to the point where even dealerships can't fix cars because all their best techs have left.
Its not a living wage, when 90% of shops are using flat rate to f you over. What a joke
My mobile mechanic is constantly growing…but I sell services in 3 different cities with 4 mobile techs and work on the cars too … plus I split job orders 50% with techs if they sell the job so corporate greed is the only thing that keeps techs away….Why don’t they ever interview the mechanics forget the manager or service advisor they work on sales commission not labor
And college teaches you almost nothing
It’s really getting worse. The cars are so complicated and difficult to work on. Techs buy their own tools and 50,000 in tools is about average. It’s tough and harder as mechanics get older. Not many guys can keep up the pace in their 50’s!
auto mechanic are underpay and will always continue to be unfairly treated. KIDS stay away from the auto tech life. do it only as a hobby
That lady is lying about how much we make lol
The stealer ship gets you on the lot, but the tech even harder in the shop. I’ve had several kids come in and work on heavy equipment. They have terrible horror stories. In heavy equipment we have a flat rate but we are paid by the hour and it stays the same whether it is warranty work or standard work. If they paid us by the job let’s say a rebuild that averages 350k at 5% that’s roughly 17k and it has a time frame of 6 to 8 weeks. You do the math. It’s way cheaper to pay us by the hour! Automotive isn’t where it’s at if you want to have a steady paycheck. In automotive they get paid by the job not the hour and shop rates vary. If the tech screws up they have to go back and fix it again free of charge on the labor. That’s not the case in the heavy equipment world.
60-100k if you work at an always busy shop and have seniority and work open to close without days off in a high stress, dog-eat-dog environment... dude, its not worth it. 10+ year mechanic here, worked at corporate shops all during that time. Go in, learn your skill sets, and get out as fast as you can. The same skills are easily transfered to other significantly higher paid industries.
Why don't you go into business for yourself? We consumers look for "shade tree" mechanics all day! We're tired of going into shops with squeeking rear breaks and coming out with a bill for thousands worth of scams repairs we don't need. I had to drive to five, yes FIVE shops with all different estimates ranging from $600-$2,800. Finally went to Yelp and found a guy that used to work for Toyota that fixed my brakes for half the cost of the lowest estimate and checked the belts one shop lied about, told me none of those jobs were not due for at least 50k more miles. Went to Acura to have them take a look at the breaks and belts and they said "everything looks great!". I refered him to my parents and two co- workers. Dude had jobs for the next few weekends and is our go to mechanic. Get in the game, please! We need you!
Stop paying them peanuts
The real shortage is lack of employers paying a fair wage for the work involved. Burger flippers make a better income.
The industry needs to be revamped
I was an auto tech for 25 years and I can say from my heart DO NOT GET INTO THIS TRADE! there are so much better options out there that pay more and have better benefits for you.
Career opportunity 😂. All being a tech did for me was break my mind, body, and bank.
Can our government subsidize a program for experienced technicians who want to open up their own shop? A huge problem with the auto tech shortage is born from ill will from dealerships. Even the guys making over $100,000 have huge grievances from dealerships. The money might be good but dealerships can't help but abuse their employees. And rather than find ourselves with broken cars and no one to fix them - create the shops with low low interest government loans?
Cost of tools is ridiculous
Raise the flat rate
Yeah pay mechanics and you won’t have a shortage
60 to 100k a year is a joke for the amount of tools and knowledge that the tech has to have,I've been a tech for 30 plus years and regret choosing this as a career, the other thing is working for the lying dealerships that will out right screw there technicians and baby the management people,l know for a fact there's fleet managers at ford dealerships making 500k per year and other management people making 150k a year with nothing invested!! anyone that reads this needs to talk to technicians before going down this slippery slope
Could you imagine doing General motors Warranty work all week 😂
Yeah, because being a Auto Mechanic sucks!
Yes electrician is the future. not saying EV or hybrid junk is great currently. it might be after some time
@@Niklez7 after the autobots share the secrets of energon
Low pay, terrible management, bad customers. It wears on you as you get older too.
I agree with every point there, especially bad management and my big hate ,Customers !, I actually loathe every Customer that comes through the door !,everyone wants everything for nothing and thinks it's acceptable to abuse everyone within the industry.
I wonder if she’d work for 60,000 a year band do our job . Lady that’s charity pay that’s not a wage get real !!! 😮
Since when technicians are called mechanics? 🤔 It kinda makes sense though
The problem is manufacture pay flate rate time that they control if their technician get good a some thing they cut the time and make hard make hard to make a living, every month in dealer ship you got keep upgrading training that they don’t pay for, tools you need to do the job are fucking expenses, and you look down on compare to suit and tie sales guy
It also takes many years to good at this job, then for your full commitment of tools you need to purchase and daily training up dates and yearly training courses, lost sleep try to forget about the shit job you have, because of the lack of respect you receive from your employer and sh#t pay and sh#t conditions you work in, and the tea lady gets better pay then you do wake up !!!
Two years??? You can’t teach them on the job??? Hmmm????
It's required and they do still learn on the job
If you pay really good wages , they will come.
Its becuase yall make it a fucking game to work on anything spend money here got to know this so spend more money and after 4 years you will finally get paid a quarter of what you spent just to get a licence
with the same skills you can do other work that pays better and you dont have all the bad stuff like breaking your back all the toxic gasses and other stuff no dont into car repair use your skills for a other tech job
Retired transmission rebuilder here, stay away from fixing cars
Better start paying correct
Good luck portland, even Walmart has moved away. because you made crime legal. Plus your tax is High and your retirement pay is out of control. you made your bed now lay in it.
I Kenya we are many,,,
So much WRONG info in this video that it’s honestly pretty funny. Thank God im not in this industry anymore ✌️
Bad pay.
There's no shortage... Just pay better and offer up better benefits and you will find your techs.
Weird how a warranty claims person can make a good living just by robbing me.
Ummm.. This "SHORTAGE" been going on Ever since the 1990s.. Its a skilled trade that is NOT viewed or treated as a skill trade, untill some dumb asses vehicle breaks down... Just a 30-plus year observation..
Youngies dont want hand dirty, want to be Highly Paid glamorous Look At ! MÉÉ like reporters und News Readers