Invoxia vs Apple AirTag: The Best GPS Tracker for my Onewheel, Escooter & Ebike
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Looking for a GPS tracker for your Onewheel, escooter, or ebike? We tested the Apple Airtag and the Invoxia tracker and share our findings. We use the Invoxia Cellular GPS tracker to see if this GPS tracker will work for the Onewheel and our other PEVs.
We discuss why the Apple Airtag doesn't work well for stolen Onewheel because the Apple Airtag is not a theft recovery device. The Invoxia GPS tracker is designed for theft recovery.
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Zip ties are a bad idea… I’m sure anyone would cut the ties off
What's your idea?
@@freshlycharged I’d use a ziplock bag “snack bag size and Velcro for re use but have bag rubber band too hold bag rolled up. No one would see it :)
@@jeremyshearer Even the double sided industrial velcro would work great.
Is the bag needed? Is it not waterproof? For all the more wet it might get, maybe use some rubberized tape over any water intrusion points, and heavy velcro.
@@djturnz it can be out of a bag yes :) some people use 3mm tape and stick it inside too hide
I have this GPS tracker install under the battery deck of my my Dualtron Ultra 2 scooter. And it works amazing it also notify me if somone moves the scooter & if it leaves the location that I'm at. I highly recommend it 👌
Thanks for sharing! Any issues that you've had? How did you installed it under your deck?
@@freshlycharged But what do it cost to buy = what do it cost for 1-2 year ? and can you buy them in all country ? Cuz i i know some stuff you can't buy in all country when it comes to that you have to buy it with subscriber.
How does it stay charged
Finally! I requested that you find a GPS tracker for the one wheel in a previous video of yours. I watch all your content and I trust your judgment. I don't know if you read my comment before but thank you!
Thanks for the idea!
How much is the yearly fee??
Man, I hope they come out with a water resistant version. I'm really impressed with how cheap the annual subscriptions is for this model. Last time I looked at one of these it was more expensive for the subscription.
it is water resistant
i'm using the Invoxia "Pet tracker" or "bicycle tracker", which are identical, but way smaller than the one you are using and it's waterproof!
It's easier to hide since it's dimensions.
I have it permanently plugged in via USB (I assured the connection is waterproof), so no need to recharge now and then.
Here in Europe it comes with a 3 year subscription included. After those 3 years I have to pay €9,99/year.
And for the record, it is not a cellular GPS tracker, but a tracker that uses the low energy Sigfox network.
Do you know if they have an equivalent for the USA market? (SigFox sounds like a European network only, never heard of it)
@@flolou8496 SigFox is a global network, present in all continents, yet it's not present in every country.
Canada and almost entire South America is covered but strangely USA is not.
Don't know if an equivalent exists in the USA.
It's unique shape and size being thin and long might be perfect for some Ebike models, but it could also be a dealbreaker for hidden effectiveness for some brands and models. It's unique shape might fit inside a seat post in some models, but it's only loosely being hidden in a case like that. The problem is this: Any good Ebike thief knows, they need to look for such hidden devices. I personally feel it's stupid in the case of an Ebike owner to put GPS warning labels on Ebikes, following the home security tradition, where people put the warning up front on there lawns or front windows, etc, that's fine thinking for a home, it's wrongheaded in my opinion to apply that logic to an item like a car or Ebike. The smarter idea , is to remain stealthy and use a first level of defense with a simple motion alarm but if it does not, stop the theft from occurring, the than the thief thinks they have nothing to worry about by destroying or removing the alarm, when in fact the real security is still in place.
@@flolou8496 The Invoxia tracker I'm using is much smaller compared to the one in the video and thus easier to hide.
I also added an Airtag on my Ebike. In the assumption that if my Ebike was stolen the Airtag can (after a while) be detected by the potential thieves, making them think they have found the "would be tracker device" ... and after dismantling thinking that the job is done and there's no need for further action ... It is hidden in a uncommon hiding place and I removed its speaker to make it even harder for them to find the Airtag ;-)
The Invoxia tracker can not be detected with a device and would still work up to 3 months without even turning on the bike for one instant.
Wow, thank you for the great response, but can you further expand on what you mean by the ''Invoxia tracker can not be detected with a device? '' (you mean like what used to commonly be called in the spy gadget Popular Mechanics genre a ''bug sweeper'' ? )
AirTag is really not meant for anti-theft at all. The built in anti-stalking features make it nearly useless for it. It'll emit a sound when moved if away from your phone for a while, if the thief has an iPhone they'll get an alert that an AirTag has been following them after a few days. Apple just released an Android app to check for rogue AirTags too. I use one myself on my Ninebot MAX, but definitely considering a GPS tracker like this one instead. I just wish there was a compartment I could tuck it in. I have my AirTag in my handlebars but it weakens the signal strength slightly.
Edit: just realized you covered this. I should watch the video before commenting.
What I have seen some people doing to hide their air tags, tiles, or various GPS-based devices is actually dremeling out the bottom of one of the foot pads so they can hide their device in between the foot pad and controller or battery box. With a GPS module you would just need to have a charging cable sticking out the footpad. Even if someone is familiar with the Onewheel, there are so many different kinds of mods out there that Even seeing a power plug sticking out of a weird location is not all together unusual. Like "oh someone did VNR, but with a USB cable. Weird."
I thought the Pint X had a huge amount of wasted space in the front bumper. It seems that would be the best place. Can you check and confirm? May have to grind down a few ribs inside.
Yes. Very good point. You would have to grind down the ribs to fit. Would have to test to see if the signal would be a problem. I'll give it a try when I get the chance.
If you clean the area thoroughly you should be able to pack the device in there with some Sugru and it will cure so it locks itself in, especially if there's a protrusion the rubber can encase and harden around. When you need to change the battery it will just peel out of the chassis cleanly and another couple bucks worth of Sugru seals it back in there.
On the downside, it needs to cure at least overnight (48 hours is best to get full outgassing and hardness) so you'll have to wait before riding.
On the upside the Sugru is basically quick cure rubber so if it is molded around gaps in the device it will also waterproof it.
If it was me, I'd also add wireless charging using a 5 buck USB wireless charging coil (basically a foil sticker like in your library books back when we had libraries and books) so I wouldn't have to remove it until something broke.
i think some sort of paracord handle would be a "hidden in plain sight" way to hide this.
I’d buy it if it was a one time payment, i hate subscriptions
I would definitely line the bag and the inside frame of the onewheel w/ Velcro. I bet that would work nicely.
I took my Invoxia on it's first test ride, where I stopped at a Burger King and ate lunch, and then stopped at a Walmart to buy groceries. When I checked the Invoxia route map when I got home, there was no way telling from the plotted lines and sporadic location points that I had been at either the Burger King or the Walmart. And I had the update frequency set to High.
Wish the invoxia wasn't 4x the price of an AirTag though especially with the yearly cellular Subscription after the first year.
More expensive, but way more functionality for theft recovery.
I would use paracord wrapped around the rail instead of zip ties. It would look and fit better, I think.
you posted this on my B day
cool idea but I don't think that getting your device back once you find it will be easy. Law enforcement likely wont get involved even if you can show them the GPS, so you will have to try to get it back yourself.
Even being able to track it to a pawn shop and being able to prove it’s yours would be huge.
@@freshlycharged true, likely that a thief would try to get rid of it quickly so this would help
I would use the under side of the handle. The back side of things is usually unseen! Love your videos dude!
I just bought one. Thx.
My Zero 10X was stolen in August, would have been supreme to track the thiefs down.
Well I don't have a PintX just yet but, the front bumper could be a perfect place since is thicker enough with nothing in it so with some DIY carve probably fit.
The rail is the best spot. But it also fits in the carry handle. I m working on hard wiring mine.
Why can’t one wheel just put a lock out on their app.? Won’t work without your password.
Won’t stop people from walking away with your one wheel
Also, with the Bluetooth reliability on my XR’s, I find that I never use the FM app. I only use OWCE from the TestFlight beta program, and even then I only use that to check the voltages on individual cells.
@@freshlycharged Product makers should really put in more effort to put in such security features. Yes, in the short term, it doesn't stop thieves from trying. But, just like with smartphones, when thieves have widespread knowledge that they can't sell the stolen product because it's locked, theft will go down drastically.
I needed one of these last month 🤣 When someone walked off with my Wolf King.
Ouch! That sucks!
Sorry to hear that, did insurance cover it?
@@shanew7361 Nope.
It was gone in a NY Minute. 🤣
...but now many will know thanks to you...
Ty for the pinned comment jimmy :)
I’m about to order one thank you, I’m going to vacseal it and figure out the extra length of plastic I need to leave so that I can wrap it around the sealed device and be able Jam it in there extra firmly will update after it ships and lands
They need to sell a waterproof case that can be screwed to your item and is fixed yet easy to get at to recharge it. Looks like a simple 3 print job to me
Great video!!
They down graded you discount code to 5%. Great video
Bro those zip ties are the FIRST thing I'd be suspicious of hahahaha what are you thinking!
I'm curious where would you place it on Yumeway X7 scooter though? I'll have both delivered tomorrow.
Damn… onewheels are expensive enough. They should have a feature like this already installed.. smh
Hi. Air tags..have months fees. Another money grab. Gps trackers rock. Do gps trackers for bikes work with androids,? Great vid.
In watching some European trackers (motorcycle) those units had to have line of sight to the satalites. If the bike was stored under a roof the tracker would not see it until the bike was on the move again. Any issues there, you're doing your video in a building I see.
No issues being indoors with this unit.
My friend has a GPS in his One Wheel and it saved him from theft. We have a bike crew and frequently hit bars up during social rides. Most times he's on his One Wheel for these rides. So we're at this one dive bar that I've always raved about to those not in the know and the door guy is asking tons of questions about his One Wheel. He leaves it with the door guy at the front only to find out upon leaving that it was gone. GPS tracker pinged it close by, so the police were called. The One Wheel was stashed in the alley on the side. Sounds like a total inside job right? All I know is that GPS tracker saved his investment.
Hey hey
Hi Jimmy - any updates on the Invoxia and its overall use-case for you? Curious about putting this on my bike and would love to know what you think after 6+ months
Not available in Canada
Your friend next to you just staring at the camera
Great video, thanks guys! Do you think this would work well in a carbon fiber framed bicycle?
If your going to use an AirTag, make sure you disable the speaker inside it, or make a DIY AirTag (OpenHaystack) as they don't have speakers at begin with. The last thing you want is the thief to make your airtag sound off, altering them exactly where it is!
I am confused. If it is using the cellular network, it is not using GPS, right?
Is this device good for long term use due to cellular connectivity ( 4G LTE, WiFi, and 5G network ), and how long does the battery last while in use, and charging ?
Maybe Router out thick part of wood pad or aftermarket pads?
Better idea to use double side tape.
Brilliant!
Until the adhesive fails
@@shanew7361 Some double sided tape can hold more than a a few pounds. If you clean the are your sticking to thoroughly it will not fail.
@@badimpulses17 I was thinking with water etc the adhesive would degrade and fall off.
I wonder if it could fit in a battery cover of skateboard. Looks big
Can you ask the company if I can use my own data only sim?
Can not.
I notice you guys have a Nanrobot and for me thats what I am trying to protect incase I get robbed, have you guys found a place on that particular scooter?
How does it stay charged
Just bought a second hand version, from Amazon. I am returning it as it will not sync to my phone. The app shuts down midway thro the setup.
Do you think the sender wrist guards are good for EUC riding? Looking for wrist protection and abrasion resistance, and warmth
So you've basically told every thief what and where to look for tracking devices. WTG! LOL.
Does the tracker work while charging? What if you took the battery out? I'm thinking of wiring this into my wheel's BMS so it works as long as the wheel is charged
Do you know if there is a flatter (square) tire for the Pint X? That rounded tire it comes with sure is squirrely and dangerous.
With a zip tie? Wow.
Please do the dualtron compact
Jimmy or Andrew I loved to get me a full face mountain bike helmet but got a big head. What's the best site for my big head thanks. N got my emove cruiser had too for range.
Man those zip ties destroy everything that is good about that hiding spot.
Just put a piece of electric tape over the charging port or any other unsealed spots.
how far can you track these?
what if I put the tracker in a bike, and someone stole it and went 10 miles away. can I track it, or is it limited to like 100 meters lol
The most annoying thing about this tracker is that it doesn't work in Australia.
Hi handsome guys. I really enjoyed this video. I own the same gps tracking device.I use it for my bicycle and will permanently use it on my 2022 Honda adv150. I was looking at your videos and I really like this scooter you have , can this be used in California and will you add a link :where to purchase the scooter you have in this video. Thanks
Too bad it doesn’t work well inside bike frames and that it is not water proof.
I wish I had this. My one wheel got stolen :'(
Where did you leave it?
Will it fit inside a 31.8 seattube?
Using zip ties instead of double sided tape or velcro...
Andrew's looking handsome! I miss that Christ-Like Jawline...
i wonder if you'll be able to do this with the GT
We will find out in a few weeks!
There is not the same groove. So no.
Would have to be a really thick Thief to not notice and soon remove, stick's out like a sore thumb
Someone is going to think that's where you put your weed.
Jimmy on the VSETT 10 where is the best place?
I did this with a lightning bug zero which fits in the front footpad, but the battery life was disappointing
What's a lightning bug?
@@freshlycharged it’s a smaller GPS tracker from the UK. Works just fine for me here in the US though. I think at one point, they even marketed it as a dog tracker.
Anything > apple
Are there hidden monthly costs or is it just buy the device and use it?
It's a yearly subscription of $39.95 per year.
What if it was theirs… they locked them out storage and that’s all they wanted back??
No. Those Onewheels belonged to someone in our local group who had just moved into the area. They were stolen.
@@freshlycharged that sucks :(
@@freshlycharged If you start a “go fund me “ for these guys who got theirs stolen I’m sure we could all pitch in and get them a newer onewheel :)
I never leave my wheel somewhere where it could get taken, if I was going to lock it I'd use my chemically treated brass chain... I also find a tazer to be an effective deterrent for any would be theif, followed by some strategic stomps... they can't steal much with a broken leg 😉 this looks like a decent tracker though if I did
do you secure the chain with a lock? would be interested in how much it would cost me
No one’s gonna know? I think the zip ties are a dead giveaway. I don’t think you tried hard enough to get it inside the onewheel. This location is incredibly obvious.
Jimmy. I’d like to send you one of my Invoxia footpads i’ve designed for XR. Let me know if you’d be interested. Thanks.
Smart tag plus is better
can someone confirm?
Any Australian retailers?
I love your videos, but this one… Toward the end, I was like, “Oh, this is a spoof. He’s kidding…” but then you never came clean. I don’t think a single one of your location ideas are discrete or hidden at all.
bro best idea is to get xt60 to usb connector and then to get xt 60 splitter cable and then connect this directly to controller and the battery and hide it deep inside frame. you never need to get it out to charge because it will get charged all the time from the battery . battery cable needs to be long enough like 60cm so it can all be connected properly. i will make a video about this .
If you put it inside your frame, completely surrounded by metal, it won't get a signal.
@@carriebartkowiak can you hide a tracker inside the Front Forks suspensions? Like them Spacers people use to reduce suspension travel
Invoxia is really bad guys! I bought it a month ago and I only have problems. It does not update the location, and sometimes it is completely dead! The company does not ask for my emails. Really bad choice!
I know you both mean well, but showing where you’re hiding them is a huge mistake
why can't these ebike manufacturers just talk with invoxia and manufacture their bikes with that device already integrated . Quite silly they can't think about this. Like they really want the bikes to be stolen so people keep buying.
That thing is oooo much bigger & so much more expensive than an AirTag … and sooooo much lower battery life. Just deactivate the AirTag speaker. You can hide 2-3 AirTags, and it’ll still be cheaper and you’ll exchange fewer batteries in total.
The zip ties is a dead giveaway.
Boy, this thing swcks. I've taken some test drives of this set into hyper update mode and it's abysmal. This does not use the cellular network, but rather, a homebrew crypto network called Lowrah or Lofi The coverage of the Lowrah is non-existent. At best if your lucky and your motorcycle doesn't end up in a chop shop or someones back yard anywhere in the vastness of the countryside, it will narrow down which big city your motorcycle is in, but that's about it. Forget narrowing it down to actual GPS coordinates on a map. Maybe you pick up one when whoever is driving it passes some random network point, but by then your motorcycle is long gone down the road.
Ive got 3 of these Invoxia GPS. One still works, two are only 6 months old and failing. Ive gone back and forth with "customer service" going on 5 weeks now via email. Clearly the battery is failing/defective and they STILL have me jumping thru hoops with troubleshooting this POS. Dont but this junk. Customer service is a joke.
LOL the thieves will be like what is the zip ties holding
Do you know if this works in mexico?
If im gonna PAY for a device there are FAR better smaller options than this smfh
The tracker costs more than the one wheel 😂😂😂
That didn't look like a random,spur of the moment crime🤔🤔There are lots of GPS trackers or RF trackers that are smaller than what U got given.
I'd love to check them out. What GPS trackers do you speak of?
This is an unbelievably bias video and in no way is a valid comparison between two products. A couple of seconds spent on the negative aspects of the Apple product and the rest of the video spent praising this wonderful tracking system which is actually a load of garbage. You can’t attach it, it’s too big, you can’t hide it, you can’t charge it, and it’s not waterproof. Oh, and by the way you very quickly glossed over the subscription charges. Was a financial incentive behind this blatant advertisement?
Well airtag are way more unique... First of all airtags don't need cellular subscription or simcard.. which is the major advantage. Otherwise gps trackers with cellular existed for ages... No devices are like airtags.. if some one can modify the airtags so they don't alert the tracked bike, and it could have better acuracy.. it is unbeatable
This is a how to for thieves because they will no where to look.
in my experience the invoxia isn't reliable. Battery life grossly overrated and it doesn't track well when hidden. For an ebike a hard wired 4G LTE tracker like TK419 hidden in frame is FAR superior.
did you really say thief's are not smart enough to know what it is? smh
LOL this whole video is laughable... you just make videos to make them, I would classify this as click bait.
smh, why publicly expose the one spot to put this thing? that thirsty for content???
Sorry if I offended you.
@@freshlycharged not surprised you would highlight my reply. content leech, go post a 12 second click bait video of someone face planting framed as some sort of PSA
youtube used to be about genuine content, now its just a bunch of bloated content for the sake of producing and coming up in feeds, and you just sit there while someone goes on and on about the same thing... why couldnt THIS be the 12 second video. took you 20 minutes to say, hey i found a good spot to put this tracker. i mean when you say "not smart enough to know its a tracker"... lol you gotta be kidding me
I sat here for 20 minutes and watched you put a tracker in a lunch bag ZIP TIE IT IN PLACE, like, hrrrrmmmm i wonder where the tracker is, can you guess guys, im totally stumped..... SMFH... this is content?
this is not content lol i want my 20 min of life back jimmy
your not sorry, otherwise you would have made the video a minute long and not put ads, you wasted my life made me dumber and subjected me to advert programing, should be ashamed jimmy