I mean that's actually not necessarily wrong because Pavel's loyalty lies with Perland and only Perland. It's been hinted at multiple times that CPavel and Cilias will fight if either one betrays Perland.
Ya know everyone talking about his s3 not hitting as hard as they thought, and yeah it’s not that big, but they also ignoring that he’s doing an extra 7-9k from his s2
People have been brain damaged by playing hwayoung for so long that they dont see his strength. He got insane damage if you can gear him correctly. And not to be that guy but most of the salty players are proberly not end game players🤷♂️
1:48 Lol you got Ras, Ras Alter, and Ras Alter Alter(all same va) Don’t care what anyone says, these balanced units are what’s best for the game. I’ve seen pvp games get ruined because they continued to release Hwayoung after Hwayoung.
I swear everyone says the same “oh he’s underwhelming” but the split second he gets a buff those same people will be calling him broken. What SG needs to do is nerf units until they are about this level, ig that’s the problem with ml pavel; he’s a reasonable unit that can’t just be used alone to great effect. He needs a team around him, that’s what makes him balanced.
@@HerberToad Don't blame the players, blame the game. Every new dps will be measured by hw performance, every new bruiser by Aravi. Every new character will be faced with the problem "can it take hw/aravi spot in my team?" If answer is no thus underwhelming unit.
@@HerberToad both would be fixed if sg would stop being greedy pussies and just nerf hwayoung and aravi, nobody would need to compare new units to the absurd old ones and rta wouldnt be aravi first pick hwayoung preban every single game
I mean... He's kind of a "support buster"... His S2 is probably one of the best things they've released as S2 in a while. His S3 needs to target enemies with low attack, so supports... And while it's true most tanks or supports don't scale on attack, their hp pool can be more than he can manage... Without S2. The S2-S3 combo kind of does the trick, but yeah... He's balanced and in E7 balance seems to be a no go o. O
His s2 cant be countered unless rimuru, he can push himself up by 50%, s2 does automatic damage when requiremets are met, his elemenet is light so hes able to hit all units, s3 multipliers are meh but that given because he would be way too op in a certain comps of being able to nuke the enemey without them having to do anything (Green pavel + mlpavel, landy +ml pavel) Just because hes not broken doesnt mean hes not good😑
@@Tylervp its an extra attack so it cant be countered by normal counterattacks like counter set, rem s2, or elbris but it can be countered by certain extra attacks like MFF and rimuru s2.
The reason why his s3 does mostly little damage is because how they handled the penetration ratio according to the difference in attack. Putting into perspective Straze´s s3, his has 30% innate pen and needs 2333 atk difference to fully penetrate (along better atk mods). But for some reason SG decided to not give any innate pen on ML Pavel´s s3, and needing up to 5893 atk difference for full penetration (wtf????). So he almost never will penetrate 100% with the s3 against tanks, and no chance of happening against dps in case it´s needed. The buff here would honestly be making his s3 recieve some of Straze´s s3 treatment and minor atk mod buffs because as a speed cleave unit he´s fairly ease to use, just lacks some damage potential and consistency
That was fast. His damage is pretty shite and wouldn't 1 shot any aravi's without softening. He's pretty much a cleave cleaner which you can pretty much put anyone else. Straze still number one tank killer. Edit: I don't want him to be broken. His s2 damage is good AoE and that is his best part that really got me interested in him. What turns me off is the disappointing numbers the s3 does considering Grass gave him good gear. Was expecting like 25-30k but he is barely touching 20k and that is with pen set already.
But still always managed to kill a.ravi in the video U cannot forget that he has Always his s2 addionally to his s3 and two attacks prior so he activates his s2
@@theskullmen1324 yeah because by that time she's pretty much banged up by initiating attacks. What i'm disappointed about is he can't 1 shot a healthy Aravi which his s3 sounds to do that job but just barely doing it.
@@haisibanaag1563 yeah for sure but there is Always an initating unit for him and his s2 does also fairly nice cleave dmg. I think u dont understand his correct role. I will say that he does look a tiny bit weaker than expected but he is still good in the role as follow up unit. Also his kit alows him zo cycle much faster than straze and he will kerp up with your other units dispite having low speed.
Nice green pavel carry. Also lermia s3 best ani That said, 21k on a char that gets 50% push is fkn strong== even more cuz it can be done on ANY unit cuz def pen I do wish his last shot did more damage tho, like 60% damage from start, 40% from shot. It feels kinda meh xd
Damn I thought his damage was bad (according to the reviews) but I can see that’s not the case, I guess people used him and didn’t read his skills? He does more damage against heroes with no attack
Also: Which EE do you use for Green Pavel here? I'd assume s2 but doesn't the increased atk buff get overlapped and kind of goes to waste? so is s3 EE best then?
Is it just me or is the sound quality on ML Pavel here and ML Elena in the trailer sound real off. For that matter, a lot of the reveal heroes in the trailer sounded similar in quality. Again, could just be my hearing.
It’s unfortunate that he’s on the weaker side but they already got burnt releasing Aravi buffs, Belian and Cilias, maybe it’s better this way, let people pull for husbando or save for something they like more like ML Elena, then eventually tweak him to be better but not a gamebreaker.
I am going to wait for ML Elena (decided to the second i saw her on anniversary, not because Pavel isnt good enough) She looks really cool and I am hoping that she has something good to bring to the table (she is 100% using an aoe with a lot of damage)
tell me one thing, this unit is going to give me the satisfaction of killing a.ravi multiple times? because in that case I will not hesitate to pull him
Soooo cause he doesnt 1 shot pov aravi he has bad damage? Even whilst dealing 18-20k+ big damage to the entire team with s2 right before that ? Its obv aravi is the actual problem and not cpavels damage.
@@lastalive4809 plus attack buff and 50 percent cr boost too..thats 18 to 21k plus 7 to 9k extra with atk and cr push and somehow people think that's bad🤣
The people are just ignoring the details pretty obvious in this unit roleplay. Pretty shame, but happens. I dont regret having mine, to me he's a great unit who make very well his service.
I agree, I'll keep saving Also Ml Elena is looking fine but I wonder if they'll enhance her anti cleave capabilities or make her fully offensive. Ml Vivian is downright akward to use at times hopefully they don't do her dirty...
4-5-6k S2 into 18-20k+ S3, "Low damage"? brain damage detected. "But it's a separate skill..." You actually believe there will be a situation where you S3 without S2? Are we playing resistance FMaya or something? This is not to you Grass, is to the people that think they can even go injury Hwayoung and carry the game (maybe they can...wow...)
man i just spent 8000 mystic an not pavel i was furious and paid for the new teather moonlight to get more mystics but now i will save them , maybe what i thought it was bad luck was actually good luck hehe gonna wait to see if he is good or not
People like you are ruinning this game Perma complaining about the meta but when a character like this is realease and is absolutly fine you cry that its underwhelming when its really not Stop
When his s3 animation isn't done and his damage is 19k I thought he will be strong af when the animation finish, but it only 21k LOL 😂😂😂 not gonna kill any aravi Edit: Keep that in mind that he have atk buff😂😂 what would happen if it's not😂😂😂 Edit: And it keep getting worse😂😂 5k atk and 300cdmg is not enough😅😅😅
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When your best support is yourself
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@@zevinsun3997 killing yourself is "support"???
Pavel: Everything i do is for the good of Perland
Also him: *kills Cilias
I mean that's actually not necessarily wrong because Pavel's loyalty lies with Perland and only Perland. It's been hinted at multiple times that CPavel and Cilias will fight if either one betrays Perland.
They literally say in his intro vid he'd kill either cilias or riolet if it was for the good of perland
Pavel: By my will and for my honor!
ML Pavel: I dont care about things like honor
Ya know everyone talking about his s3 not hitting as hard as they thought, and yeah it’s not that big, but they also ignoring that he’s doing an extra 7-9k from his s2
exactly man.
Extra s2 AOE with 50% cr push & self atk buff
I can't figure out how they think 15 - 18k is bad damage
@@Mustar1989 they used to use hwayoung, thats why
People have been brain damaged by playing hwayoung for so long that they dont see his strength.
He got insane damage if you can gear him correctly.
And not to be that guy but most of the salty players are proberly not end game players🤷♂️
1:48 Lol you got Ras, Ras Alter, and Ras Alter Alter(all same va)
Don’t care what anyone says, these balanced units are what’s best for the game. I’ve seen pvp games get ruined because they continued to release Hwayoung after Hwayoung.
His damage look ok to me , is not straze level but is good enough to clean up the rest of their team
Much better usage than straze that's for sure.
At least you can choose who to nuke, unlike with Straze
@@basicallytroll2705 straze wipes whole team with 1 attack buff wdym lmao
I swear everytime he uses his s3, I can hear him so much louder than anything else
Reminds me of A.Ras before they fixed it. FS Tieria also has this problem
@@hondsdollekat ah yes I remember going deaf the moment I first tried her xD
I swear everyone says the same “oh he’s underwhelming” but the split second he gets a buff those same people will be calling him broken. What SG needs to do is nerf units until they are about this level, ig that’s the problem with ml pavel; he’s a reasonable unit that can’t just be used alone to great effect. He needs a team around him, that’s what makes him balanced.
People complain about hwayoung and aravi but when a character isnt aravi/hwayoung level they complain
@@HerberToad the devs really can’t win 😭
Sg can't nerf units due to its refund regulations
@@HerberToad Don't blame the players, blame the game. Every new dps will be measured by hw performance, every new bruiser by Aravi. Every new character will be faced with the problem "can it take hw/aravi spot in my team?" If answer is no thus underwhelming unit.
@@HerberToad both would be fixed if sg would stop being greedy pussies and just nerf hwayoung and aravi, nobody would need to compare new units to the absurd old ones and rta wouldnt be aravi first pick hwayoung preban every single game
Pavel is my first 5 star hero. As a player who mains gunners, this is a brilliant addition. I'm getting him as soon as possible
Also this the version of Pavel that actually uses his pistol
What about destruction set and slower?
Since he pushes 50% anything over 150 speed and no enemy politis should do the trick, right?
people are forgetting the fact that he can take on counter defense teams. he’s really good.
You can increase more of his damage if your using deus nocsis (pavel artifact i dont remember the spelling sorry)
I think he needs a base damage in his ulti then the extra scale damage, i mean to do a little bit against dps units
I mean... He's kind of a "support buster"... His S2 is probably one of the best things they've released as S2 in a while. His S3 needs to target enemies with low attack, so supports... And while it's true most tanks or supports don't scale on attack, their hp pool can be more than he can manage... Without S2. The S2-S3 combo kind of does the trick, but yeah... He's balanced and in E7 balance seems to be a no go o. O
yall act like his damage is okay meanwhile he has almost 5k atk and 300% crit damage + symbol of unity
Yeah 😅. Hahah mediocre damage
His s2 cant be countered unless rimuru, he can push himself up by 50%, s2 does automatic damage when requiremets are met, his elemenet is light so hes able to hit all units, s3 multipliers are meh but that given because he would be way too op in a certain comps of being able to nuke the enemey without them having to do anything (Green pavel + mlpavel, landy +ml pavel)
Just because hes not broken doesnt mean hes not good😑
@@joshualacumbo9382 Nothing in his S2 description says that it cannot be countered, though.
@@Tylervp its an extra attack so it cant be countered by normal counterattacks like counter set, rem s2, or elbris but it can be countered by certain extra attacks like MFF and rimuru s2.
@@joshualacumbo9382 yeah it cant be countered but did u forget he need 2 crit to get 50 cr boost?
The reason why his s3 does mostly little damage is because how they handled the penetration ratio according to the difference in attack. Putting into perspective Straze´s s3, his has 30% innate pen and needs 2333 atk difference to fully penetrate (along better atk mods). But for some reason SG decided to not give any innate pen on ML Pavel´s s3, and needing up to 5893 atk difference for full penetration (wtf????). So he almost never will penetrate 100% with the s3 against tanks, and no chance of happening against dps in case it´s needed. The buff here would honestly be making his s3 recieve some of Straze´s s3 treatment and minor atk mod buffs because as a speed cleave unit he´s fairly ease to use, just lacks some damage potential and consistency
0:11 "I will not miss" 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗲𝘀
That was fast. His damage is pretty shite and wouldn't 1 shot any aravi's without softening. He's pretty much a cleave cleaner which you can pretty much put anyone else. Straze still number one tank killer.
Edit: I don't want him to be broken. His s2 damage is good AoE and that is his best part that really got me interested in him. What turns me off is the disappointing numbers the s3 does considering Grass gave him good gear. Was expecting like 25-30k but he is barely touching 20k and that is with pen set already.
But still always managed to kill a.ravi in the video
U cannot forget that he has Always his s2 addionally to his s3 and two attacks prior so he activates his s2
@@theskullmen1324 yeah because by that time she's pretty much banged up by initiating attacks. What i'm disappointed about is he can't 1 shot a healthy Aravi which his s3 sounds to do that job but just barely doing it.
his role pretty much follow up like loser charles and seaseria
@@haisibanaag1563 its called balance, aravi's teammate probably die already with just s2
@@haisibanaag1563 yeah for sure but there is Always an initating unit for him and his s2 does also fairly nice cleave dmg. I think u dont understand his correct role.
I will say that he does look a tiny bit weaker than expected but he is still good in the role as follow up unit.
Also his kit alows him zo cycle much faster than straze and he will kerp up with your other units dispite having low speed.
Nice green pavel carry. Also lermia s3 best ani
That said, 21k on a char that gets 50% push is fkn strong== even more cuz it can be done on ANY unit cuz def pen
I do wish his last shot did more damage tho, like 60% damage from start, 40% from shot. It feels kinda meh xd
Yea it feels underwhelming af xD
I'd say Pavel has a better ani
4:26 Kawerik just hit 19.5k with S2, this is insane
The thing with Cpavel is that he needs too much setup to work
Be grateful you helped create the foundation-
Damn I thought his damage was bad (according to the reviews) but I can see that’s not the case, I guess people used him and didn’t read his skills? He does more damage against heroes with no attack
Also: Which EE do you use for Green Pavel here? I'd assume s2 but doesn't the increased atk buff get overlapped and kind of goes to waste? so is s3 EE best then?
What are your Stene's stats? And he seems to do his job just fine to me.
How do you feel about CDom instead of Politis in the first team you showed? Any positives or negatives in this? Can still wear book.
Politis was there to halt aravi Cr. Cdom would work (if you have cracked Pavel to kill cilias)
7k dmg on Pavel S3 + 9k dmg on S2 + 21k dmg on S3 against Aravi on SPEED Set. Seems Decent
And it was aravi without pov
How come you don't make "my thoughts" videos anymore?( I found them really helpful )
He already replied before to similar question like yours. tldr, less theorycrafting, more practicality.
@@tirawish oh I see ok
I wish they change his SB to extra damage instead. I doubt Pavel will survive 2 more if the fight isn’t over after his initial s3
I agree, on top of that his s3 dmg are not that high for 4800 atk and 300 crit dmg
When you look that good, who needs damage?
Look at all the guns
I use him whith ssbelona artefact, and that do the job nice!!
they did my man dirty :(
Is it just me or is the sound quality on ML Pavel here and ML Elena in the trailer sound real off. For that matter, a lot of the reveal heroes in the trailer sounded similar in quality. Again, could just be my hearing.
the gun bois
Trc mắt thì thấy SG nên buff tí dmg vào multiply chứ thấy xuyên 70% def mà dmg còn ko đủ để nuke chết dc nửa cây máu của A.Ravi Proof of Valor nữa là
How about Dux Noctis for him?
COMMANDER PAVEL DAMAGE TESTING (HIS ANIMATION IS SO COOL, but...)
BUT I CAN'T GET HIM
Is it me or does ML Pavel sound static-y? I don't know how to explain it. As if he's too close to the mic.
I wonder if that was intentional since the animation shows him coming closer to the camera
I bet bruiser ml pavel with lifesteal would be disgusting, I don’t like relying on defense break or being Uber fast to win.
He's too squishy to lifesteal my friend
It’s unfortunate that he’s on the weaker side but they already got burnt releasing Aravi buffs, Belian and Cilias, maybe it’s better this way, let people pull for husbando or save for something they like more like ML Elena, then eventually tweak him to be better but not a gamebreaker.
I agree with you but man I’m pretty sure nobody cares for the lonely unused waifu’s and husbando’s and rather just use these busted as units:(
I am going to wait for ML Elena (decided to the second i saw her on anniversary, not because Pavel isnt good enough)
She looks really cool and I am hoping that she has something good to bring to the table (she is 100% using an aoe with a lot of damage)
maybe putting atk boots instead as he buff 50% cr anyways
I think he's really good at what he does ngl
tell me one thing, this unit is going to give me the satisfaction of killing a.ravi multiple times? because in that case I will not hesitate to pull him
Yeah if you can gear him well
He cant do it alone without dmg from other units
Ye but isn't green Pavel pretty much him but with speed
There's someone in my guild that says he and Roy are not good 🙄
Your pavel is so crack grass XD
over 20k on a POV A.Ravi.................
Pretty sure it's just the build you're using on him on this showcase. Try making him slow with atk set as he already has a big self cr boost.
Looks extremly juicy, pulling for sure.
10/10 animation, 🤡 in dmg. I got her and... is depressing 5.4atk+atkbuff, 350CD and 5 charge of dux noctis and only do 18-20kdmg to aravis with pov
Soooo cause he doesnt 1 shot pov aravi he has bad damage? Even whilst dealing 18-20k+ big damage to the entire team with s2 right before that ? Its obv aravi is the actual problem and not cpavels damage.
@@lastalive4809 plus attack buff and 50 percent cr boost too..thats 18 to 21k plus 7 to 9k extra with atk and cr push and somehow people think that's bad🤣
@@testdummy6348 ofc it bad. You don't know how much a Ravi S3 dmge when entire team dead?
light straze showcase
No Lmao.
If it was the case he'd actually be good.
wanna be straze showcase
well played 👍👍
Any idea what unit can do a crit twice except the one on the video?
He showed eda and pavel right? They are the common openers
The people are just ignoring the details pretty obvious in this unit roleplay. Pretty shame, but happens. I dont regret having mine, to me he's a great unit who make very well his service.
Im just glade he uses his pistol now lol
Nice gears but sadly he has low skill dmg multipliers.
Okay I have 1k n I'll be saving
I agree, I'll keep saving
Also Ml Elena is looking fine but I wonder if they'll enhance her anti cleave capabilities or make her fully offensive.
Ml Vivian is downright akward to use at times hopefully they don't do her dirty...
Sup Grass Angel congrats on commander pavel
How his damages can be so low with such gear wow... So sad.
21k to aravi? 🤔
His modifiers are horrible, sadly
People just so quick to judge 🤣
They do that to every hero
He double dips which makes him just okay. Want a cleave support then closer charles is better. Want a tank killer straze is better
Look at his gear with that kind of damage?
@@roycewolf1268 Isn't that normal for that kind of gear? Is it very hard to get 100% critr and 300 critd with 4.5k+ attack>?
@@arstgera tf
4-5-6k S2 into 18-20k+ S3, "Low damage"? brain damage detected.
"But it's a separate skill..." You actually believe there will be a situation where you S3 without S2? Are we playing resistance FMaya or something?
This is not to you Grass, is to the people that think they can even go injury Hwayoung and carry the game (maybe they can...wow...)
even *4 ml watcher schuri have 100% penet without requiring any condition lol
damm...
he is so weak
man i just spent 8000 mystic an not pavel i was furious and paid for the new teather moonlight to get more mystics but now i will save them , maybe what i thought it was bad luck was actually good luck hehe gonna wait to see if he is good or not
Always wait for people to test the hero you got lucky lol
I'm trying mine and kinda sucks too xdxdxd
hehe skip
Really one of the few only good things about him is the animation lol
Yoo
Ngl, CPavel is so underwhelming, seeing the stats in the end and dealing that little damage on max mola, its a good thing the s3 looks cool at least
People like you are ruinning this game
Perma complaining about the meta but when a character like this is realease and is absolutly fine you cry that its underwhelming when its really not
Stop
Second
5 time crit to proc his passive? Ran with luci maybe can do that 😂 not so great dam but can comp with straze wschuri team
When his s3 animation isn't done and his damage is 19k I thought he will be strong af when the animation finish, but it only 21k LOL 😂😂😂 not gonna kill any aravi
Edit: Keep that in mind that he have atk buff😂😂 what would happen if it's not😂😂😂
Edit: And it keep getting worse😂😂 5k atk and 300cdmg is not enough😅😅😅
i think you overlooked the penset
@@nidheeshpatel5847 that's even worse 🤣
Are you so focused on one shotting aravi that you overlooked the part he damaged the whole team before he didbhis s3?
@@arstgera yes I am, doesn't matter his s2 or he needs support before he can do shit, his s3 is underwhelming
@@zicolorenzo6875 So basically you want a hero who doesnt need a support that can one shot anything? can you name one hero that can do that.
Hwayoung is better😊😊