A few things to consider when escorting someone out of the church; 1. sometimes you may want have authorization from your pastor (if needed) to physically remove a disruptive individual out. Ask your pastor to assign certain members (preferably from the security team), who they depend on to make sound judgement-calls as to soft-hands or additional force and removal. Once he has assigned such team members, the "considered assault" goes out the door with the disruptive individual. 2. when escorting a disruptive individual out, one of your team members needs to be vigilant of a possible attack from the rear. The individual you may be escorting could possibly be a distraction, occupying the security team, while someone else attacks the pastor or parishioners. Just a few things learned in FLETC. This video was awesome. Thank you so much!
Great idea but you may indict your pastor. I would suggest the opposite. Do not put your pastor in that position. You want to protect the pastor. I would have a legally sound neutral source choose these individuals. Let qualified people vet these “choices.” Absolve your pastor of this liability.
@+/-21:15: For those on a Security/Safety Team regarding dealing with asking a person to leave and the person refuses or resists, check your State and/or local ordinances on Disturbing the Peace, Trespassing, Trespass - Refusing to Leave and Disturbing Religious /Rightful Meetings /Assembly. Use those, if needed, to press charges when contacting law enforcement.
Robertz, I just ran across your comment and saw that I never replied. Very true that you have to be very careful and better have a great need....to put hands on someone. Thanks for commenting!
5:18 - 5:30 In this day and age "unarmed security": is an oxymoron. Statically guns are rarely the best answer, but when they are, they are the only answer. Southerland Springs Texas First Baptist Church anyone?
Well Flaco, I am glad you are watching. Thank you for taking care of your people and your church! I just found this post that I did not reply to previously. How are things going for you and your team now?
Sir - I commented earlier today on another video where you had a fellow who said that he was some sort of Drug evaluation expert,. I found HIS comments to be somewhat boastful and not particularly helpful and mentioned that i decided not to subscribe to your channel. You've changed my mind with THIS video. I like what you're saying and that you admit your not a lawyer, and that you seem to be offering sound advice. May i ask if you have a listing of the sources of the statistics you present in this video? I'd like to use them in any presentation i do for my group - IF that is -they ever decide to move forward with the concept. I'm interested also in the statistics of what type (religion- denomination - congregation size - location - etc.) of churches might be the most "At risk" among church security incidents. (e.g. it seems to me that large, well-attended Christian churches in urban locations, which are known to handle large sums of money each week , as well unfortunately, large Synagogues, would probably be more likely to be the target of an attack than would say, small out of the way parishes in rural areas. In any event- well-done, thank you.
I cover both. For us the are multiple entry and exit points but we lock all but two doors. There is a lock box that people put their offering in in the lobby. We only have two people during each service. Since no hands have to be put on the offerings (until after the church is 15 minutes past the end prayer) we can focus on what we need to do. One member stays in the lobby watching the box while the other walks around counts the attendance and checks that all the doors are locked except the designated two doors.
NVR, I just ran across your comment and saw that I never replied. That is some great planning on your part, it sounds like you folks are covering everything very well, with the people that you have! Thanks for sharing what your church does!
marriedshades, I just ran across your comment and saw that I never replied. Unfortunately most churches in the US have to have volunteers cover multiple duties! Thanks for sharing.
Montana Annie, that would be nice, but many churches do not have enough volunteers to allow them the convenience of only one volunteer position! Thank you for sharing!
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A few things to consider when escorting someone out of the church; 1. sometimes you may want have authorization from your pastor (if needed) to physically remove a disruptive individual out. Ask your pastor to assign certain members (preferably from the security team), who they depend on to make sound judgement-calls as to soft-hands or additional force and removal. Once he has assigned such team members, the "considered assault" goes out the door with the disruptive individual. 2. when escorting a disruptive individual out, one of your team members needs to be vigilant of a possible attack from the rear. The individual you may be escorting could possibly be a distraction, occupying the security team, while someone else attacks the pastor or parishioners. Just a few things learned in FLETC. This video was awesome. Thank you so much!
Thanks for sharing some great thoughts Lou! Sorry I did not see your comments sooner!
Great idea but you may indict your pastor. I would suggest the opposite. Do not put your pastor in that position. You want to protect the pastor. I would have a legally sound neutral source choose these individuals. Let qualified people vet these “choices.” Absolve your pastor of this liability.
Very good video 1&2. The level diagram is helpful. Thank you.
Edit: videos 1,2,&3 👍
@+/-21:15: For those on a Security/Safety Team regarding dealing with asking a person to leave and the person refuses or resists, check your State and/or local ordinances on Disturbing the Peace, Trespassing, Trespass - Refusing to Leave and Disturbing Religious /Rightful Meetings /Assembly. Use those, if needed, to press charges when contacting law enforcement.
Very great stuff here. Thank you so much for sharing
Thank you Victor for watching our videos, and commenting!
I wound replace the "soft hands" step with a firmer verbal demand.
Thanks for sharing Nick!
Even "soft hands" could be considered as assault in some areas.
Robertz, I just ran across your comment and saw that I never replied. Very true that you have to be very careful and better have a great need....to put hands on someone. Thanks for commenting!
5:18 - 5:30 In this day and age "unarmed security": is an oxymoron. Statically guns are rarely the best answer, but when they are, they are the only answer. Southerland Springs Texas First Baptist Church anyone?
Thank you for sharing your opinion here.
A pistol ar would make a good church security weapon
I am the youngest guy on my "team and I am 62 years old.
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Well Flaco, I am glad you are watching. Thank you for taking care of your people and your church! I just found this post that I did not reply to previously. How are things going for you and your team now?
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Sir - I commented earlier today on another video where you had a fellow who said that he was some sort of Drug evaluation expert,. I found HIS comments to be somewhat boastful and not particularly helpful and mentioned that i decided not to subscribe to your channel. You've changed my mind with THIS video. I like what you're saying and that you admit your not a lawyer, and that you seem to be offering sound advice. May i ask if you have a listing of the sources of the statistics you present in this video? I'd like to use them in any presentation i do for my group - IF that is -they ever decide to move forward with the concept. I'm interested also in the statistics of what type (religion- denomination - congregation size - location - etc.) of churches might be the most "At risk" among church security incidents. (e.g. it seems to me that large, well-attended Christian churches in urban locations, which are known to handle large sums of money each week , as well unfortunately, large Synagogues, would probably be more likely to be the target of an attack than would say, small out of the way parishes in rural areas. In any event- well-done, thank you.
Sprays can be bad for the whole congregation. Especially infants and the elderly.
Hopefully, it never gets to that
Victor Thanks for commenting, I just found several of your comments I did not reply to.
Flaco, that is very true! Anyone indoors would have an issues. Thanks for commenting, I just found your comments I did not reply to.
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Pepper Gel, Sabre?
Security should not be an usher....his/her attention should not be divided
Montana Annie well in my church we are so small it's a requirement don't have the people to cover both
I cover both. For us the are multiple entry and exit points but we lock all but two doors. There is a lock box that people put their offering in in the lobby. We only have two people during each service. Since no hands have to be put on the offerings (until after the church is 15 minutes past the end prayer) we can focus on what we need to do. One member stays in the lobby watching the box while the other walks around counts the attendance and checks that all the doors are locked except the designated two doors.
NVR, I just ran across your comment and saw that I never replied. That is some great planning on your part, it sounds like you folks are covering everything very well, with the people that you have! Thanks for sharing what your church does!
marriedshades, I just ran across your comment and saw that I never replied. Unfortunately most churches in the US have to have volunteers cover multiple duties! Thanks for sharing.
Montana Annie, that would be nice, but many churches do not have enough volunteers to allow them the convenience of only one volunteer position! Thank you for sharing!
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