the shabby fraud who got more points in a single season than any manager has ever got for Everton in the Premier League era, 9 more than Moyes did the season before, 6 more than he ever got with Everton. It was also the highest points total any Everton manager has ever got, bar only the great Howard Kendall. The shabby fraud also took us to the quarter finals of the Europa League, a feat surpassed by only Howard Kendall in our history. The shabby fraud got us to two cup semi-finals in one season, again a feat surpassed by only the great Howard Kendall. Whilst the aforementioned things are all facts, I'll also add some opinion and state that the Shabby fraud played the best football I have ever seen us play, a million times better than David Moyes ever managed. Furhermore, he was a post or two away from a few good wins in a second season blighted by injury to James McCarthy and others. But yeah, don't let that get in the way of crap people like to level at Martinez.
harry catterick, cliff britton, gordan lee and tosh macintosh managed more under old two points system converted to three. . in 1970 CATTERICK equalled chelsea''s record when converted to three points. harry also took us to a European quarter final in 70/71 i agree RM wasn't a fraud i just think he was a manager who the glass was half full, did many right and wrong things. his own stubborness stopped him and us from progressing.
Look at us now, Moyes has completed trasnformed us. The most impressive thing about Moyoes is how he has been saying that he doesn't just want a good team that does well. He wants to completely transform the club, change their identity and the way they do things and become a real serious force in football, and I fully believe he could achieve that.
I actually think he will do really well. Excellent at Everton ( Martinez and koeman both proved how hard the job is). He was climbing a mountain at United, no one could have replaced Ferguson yet alone with an ageing side with leaders like vidic, Evra and Ferdinand all leaving. Van Gaal spent well over 100 million more than moyes at united and apart from the FA cup he didn't really pull up any trees either. In terms of sociedad and Sunderland, very few British managers achieve success abroad and Sunderland is a club in turmoil as the championship table now shows. Moyes is an excellent manager who has took the wrong jobs in recent years. He has now got a very good squad at West Ham, if he can get them organised and keep a settled formation and style of play im sure he will do very well.
Paddy B Good point sir, but personally I think the league is a lot tougher than the days when Moyes was at Everton. Back then you have two or three top teams and now you have 6. And all the “smaller premier league clubs” now have the ability and money to buy players. It will be a big challenge but I hope he does well in his new job.
Commenting from the future moynes kept west ham in the premier league but was not renewed after 6 month contract was up They called him back again and not only kept them up but led them to 6th and seventh place with a europa league semifinal finish Last season they had a drop to 14th place Look bad except they won the europa conference league trophy ending a 43 year trophy drought and now they are in the top four and competing in europa league again
I know Manuel Pellegrini is a great manager but I would have loved to have seen what David Moyes could have done with a few seasons and a decent budget
It's interesting watching this now - in Moyes' second spell at West Ham (where he's had much more success). Tifo was absolutely right about him being a 'dead man walking' after the fan-favourite Bilic (Big Sam in a similar position now at West Brom). But now he's over-achieved and is succeeding it looks to be working and he now has been given some faith and the club and fans are daring to dream of long-term stability - and it's still in a very similar vein to how he is described in this video (for example - his 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-3-1 formations. Great work as always Tifo - this video has still aged beautifully even though things have changed so much
Moyes used a 451 with Everton. Initially a 4141 type with two banks of 4 and Carsley inbetween. Later, he had two wingers Pienaar on the left and Mirallas on the right, but for the most part we had a player like Arteta there. The wingers played narrow with width provided by the fullbacks Baines and Coleman. In the middle he liked hard working midfielders, with a three in an inverted diamond with a Carsley type sitting deep. Sometimes, he would play a 4411 with Fellaini off the striker. But the midfield would sit deep and have to work hard.
It's difficult to judge him outside of his time at Everton. He wasn't given the time at United, Sociedad was a really odd appointment, and Sunderland had been utter garbage for a while and I don't think anyone could have kept them up. I'm inclined to think we'll see more of what he did at Everton, but the players are going to have to buy into his system quickly.
You mention Cresswell as a well suited left back for Moyes, but personally I think Masuaku would suit pushing forward more from what of I've seen of him
Can Carroll play as a 10? He is better with the ball than people give him credit for, and long shots are one of his strengths. he won't have fellaini's distribution or vision, but he will have a better eye for goal and Hernandez can sweep any loose balls from deflections and GK saves. Also Ayew can play in the advanced poacher position as he is fast, strong, and can drag defenders with him. Excited for WHU vs Watford
he need to gain the trust from the players first, then to give the players self-confidence... that they can win with Moyes behind them. Mentality is important after all.
Would be awesome to see an episode on Peru and its coach Ricardo Gareca as they have just earned the last spot in the world cup by being undefeated this whole year.
Ideal Manager for West Ham. The perfect fit given their circumstances ( though they will beat Southampton today 2/0 ) He has plenty of experience taking teams down and he will just the Man for the relegation battle ahead in 2018/19 in The Championship in front of rows of empty seats at that Athletics Track they rent in the middle of nowhere, in particular. I reckon with luck he will, just, keep them in The Championship next year after Lanzini and Co are long gone...
moyes' success or failure will be determined by the first three matches. if he can't get a decent result within those three matches the media will eat him alive and see ya later hammers enjoy the 18-19 championship
^^ the fixtures get to become an uphill struggle after december 4th (city then chelsea then arsenal), and given everton's recent form a result at Gooidson Park isn't the most far fetched thing in the world. leicester at home is probably gonna be the hardest of those 3 fixtures
Great video... I was not excited about Moyes taking over (I'm not a hammers fan mind you)... but this makes me want to pay a bit more attention to how they play. I wonder if Andy Carrol and might instead be the target man Antonio/Ayew/Arnautovic/Lanzini playing the tucked in winger roles.
the number of seasons, he was at Everton, he never got them relegated, and looking at the stats, that he had over 50% with Man Utd, the club which he was only given one season, after Alex Ferguson was nearly sacked at the beginning of his Man Utd, also the number of seasons Ferguson had as well, is going to be hard to copy that; Mourinho didn't get into the top 4, last season. His first game is against Watford, who after the Arsenal game have not been having great luck, and who don't have a good home record, so a result for Moyes, I think.
Moyes has done a good job after a rough start, but I didn't expect miracles with some of the first few games being Watford, Everton and Man City away. Since then he has lost only once and captured 15 of 24 points with a 50% win rate.
Usually in a 4-4-1-1 the first "1" is a "Hidden striker" or secondary striker, as in a 4-2-3-1 the player in the middle of the 3 is a number 10, and has usually more defensive responsibility. You do still have a point, and considering the role doesn't change all that much, it maybe is irrelevant to differentiate them.
Robert Bay which makes absolutely no difference. It all depends on the individual characteristic the number 10 has. It is still a 4-4-1-1 when you are defending...
Oh get over yourself. Stop pretending you're some sort of footballing sage because you know something about formations. I bet you play plenty FIFA yourself
genuinely hoping for Moyes to do well at West Ham. As long as the players are willing to hear him out. IMO his United tenure did not work mostly because the senior players did not believe in him hence the poor performance and Moyes losing the dress room
Sociedad and Sunderland was the aftermath of United's 10-month disaster tenure, he was not himself after that. When was the last time a manager from UK has been succesfull outside of UK? Also Sunderland were going down regardless who was in charge IMO
Adhitya Prianda disagree with that I genuinely think we would have avoided a relegation battle under allardyce but under moyes his negativity filtered through to the players and we never stood a chance
David moyes is a good manager the reasons he did not do well at other clubs Man u gory hunters Sociedad did not speak Spanish very well Sunderland bad ownership But westham are like eveoton he will be given time and they are Premier league club that won't get relegated
He was shocking for us last season, and the revisionism he's come out with since is really galling. Can't see it working, the man's a fraud. The defensive stability line is nonsense.
Sizwe A. Mabaso because they control the players and if the players don't do what the manager says (effectively losing the dressing room) they need to be sacked
Total bollox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will he keep them up?
uMAXit Football Will he fuck.
uMAXit Football nope
Yes
Just
uMAXit Let’s hope⚒
They're top four right now.
Granted this is his second go-round with the club
I'm an Everton man and I'll always be grateful to David Moyes. I hope he does well (and I believe he will) at West Ham.
Not at all. I was, however, crying at our misery by being cursed with that shabby fraud Roberto Martinez in 2013/14
Shane Wright you finished 5th that season though, so I can't imagine you were crying too much in 2014
Glad to see Football fans backing their previous manager for their new club and am grateful for the good work that they have done in the past :)
the shabby fraud who got more points in a single season than any manager has ever got for Everton in the Premier League era, 9 more than Moyes did the season before, 6 more than he ever got with Everton. It was also the highest points total any Everton manager has ever got, bar only the great Howard Kendall. The shabby fraud also took us to the quarter finals of the Europa League, a feat surpassed by only Howard Kendall in our history. The shabby fraud got us to two cup semi-finals in one season, again a feat surpassed by only the great Howard Kendall. Whilst the aforementioned things are all facts, I'll also add some opinion and state that the Shabby fraud played the best football I have ever seen us play, a million times better than David Moyes ever managed. Furhermore, he was a post or two away from a few good wins in a second season blighted by injury to James McCarthy and others. But yeah, don't let that get in the way of crap people like to level at Martinez.
harry catterick, cliff britton, gordan lee and tosh macintosh managed more under old two points system converted to three. . in 1970 CATTERICK equalled chelsea''s record when converted to three points. harry also took us to a European quarter final in 70/71
i agree RM wasn't a fraud i just think he was a manager who the glass was half full, did many right and wrong things. his own stubborness stopped him and us from progressing.
Look at us now, Moyes has completed trasnformed us. The most impressive thing about Moyoes is how he has been saying that he doesn't just want a good team that does well. He wants to completely transform the club, change their identity and the way they do things and become a real serious force in football, and I fully believe he could achieve that.
I actually think he will do really well. Excellent at Everton ( Martinez and koeman both proved how hard the job is). He was climbing a mountain at United, no one could have replaced Ferguson yet alone with an ageing side with leaders like vidic, Evra and Ferdinand all leaving. Van Gaal spent well over 100 million more than moyes at united and apart from the FA cup he didn't really pull up any trees either. In terms of sociedad and Sunderland, very few British managers achieve success abroad and Sunderland is a club in turmoil as the championship table now shows.
Moyes is an excellent manager who has took the wrong jobs in recent years. He has now got a very good squad at West Ham, if he can get them organised and keep a settled formation and style of play im sure he will do very well.
Paddy B
Good point sir, but personally I think the league is a lot tougher than the days when Moyes was at Everton.
Back then you have two or three top teams and now you have 6.
And all the “smaller premier league clubs” now have the ability and money to buy players.
It will be a big challenge but I hope he does well in his new job.
Fair play mate, absolutely spot on!
Welcome back David Moyes 😂
He's inevitable
1 year later west ham are 4th in the league
This aged well
Are you still laughing???
30/38 gameweeks completed, his west ham team are fourth in the league
the moysiah is currently a manager of the year contender
Commenting from the future moynes kept west ham in the premier league but was not renewed after 6 month contract was up They called him back again and not only kept them up but led them to 6th and seventh place with a europa league semifinal finish Last season they had a drop to 14th place Look bad except they won the europa conference league trophy ending a 43 year trophy drought and now they are in the top four and competing in europa league again
I know Manuel Pellegrini is a great manager but I would have loved to have seen what David Moyes could have done with a few seasons and a decent budget
Well, we may see that now....maybe.
I reckon we‘ve now seen what David Moyes could have done with a few seasons and a decent budget
00:07 Quite possibly the scariest adaptation of man to cartoon....ever.
SJames10 he look like a zombie jeese
Do a video on the Dunk and Duffy partnership
james thorner Stop going on about the tosser
I think you'll find a partnership consists of two people
Good idea
It's interesting watching this now - in Moyes' second spell at West Ham (where he's had much more success). Tifo was absolutely right about him being a 'dead man walking' after the fan-favourite Bilic (Big Sam in a similar position now at West Brom). But now he's over-achieved and is succeeding it looks to be working and he now has been given some faith and the club and fans are daring to dream of long-term stability - and it's still in a very similar vein to how he is described in this video (for example - his 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-3-1 formations. Great work as always Tifo - this video has still aged beautifully even though things have changed so much
Moyes used a 451 with Everton. Initially a 4141 type with two banks of 4 and Carsley inbetween. Later, he had two wingers Pienaar on the left and Mirallas on the right, but for the most part we had a player like Arteta there. The wingers played narrow with width provided by the fullbacks Baines and Coleman. In the middle he liked hard working midfielders, with a three in an inverted diamond with a Carsley type sitting deep. Sometimes, he would play a 4411 with Fellaini off the striker. But the midfield would sit deep and have to work hard.
It's difficult to judge him outside of his time at Everton. He wasn't given the time at United, Sociedad was a really odd appointment, and Sunderland had been utter garbage for a while and I don't think anyone could have kept them up. I'm inclined to think we'll see more of what he did at Everton, but the players are going to have to buy into his system quickly.
can you do an updated version please
You mention Cresswell as a well suited left back for Moyes, but personally I think Masuaku would suit pushing forward more from what of I've seen of him
Can Carroll play as a 10? He is better with the ball than people give him credit for, and long shots are one of his strengths. he won't have fellaini's distribution or vision, but he will have a better eye for goal and Hernandez can sweep any loose balls from deflections and GK saves. Also Ayew can play in the advanced poacher position as he is fast, strong, and can drag defenders with him. Excited for WHU vs Watford
I could see it happening! Just needs to stay fit
These recommendations I'm telling you...
Yeah I thought this was from today until I looked at the date.
I hope for Moyes to do well...
Julius Lee his career is over otherwise
he need to gain the trust from the players first,
then to give the players self-confidence... that they can win with Moyes behind them.
Mentality is important after all.
why?! he sucks butt
Would be awesome to see an episode on Peru and its coach Ricardo Gareca as they have just earned the last spot in the world cup by being undefeated this whole year.
Any analysis on his current West Ham side? 😊 They are doing great.
He has a very pronounced style and the which is described well in the video. The question is can it still work? and if not how can he adapt?
There is no failure in football management just feedback and learning the lessons
I told you he will do well and West ham are the new Everton of 2002-2013
Ideal Manager for West Ham. The perfect fit given their circumstances ( though they will beat Southampton today 2/0 ) He has plenty of experience taking teams down and he will just the Man for the relegation battle ahead in 2018/19 in The Championship in front of rows of empty seats at that Athletics Track they rent in the middle of nowhere, in particular.
I reckon with luck he will, just, keep them in The Championship next year after Lanzini and Co are long gone...
i never get disapointed with this channel.
thank god i subscribed the first time i saw ur videos.
i somehow got it right.
Yes you did
I definitely lots of guys are delighted they subscribed too
moyes' success or failure will be determined by the first three matches. if he can't get a decent result within those three matches the media will eat him alive and see ya later hammers enjoy the 18-19 championship
ariean rachmat what? Watford away, Leicester home, Everton away? What's so wrong with them? He should be at least competitive in them.
^^ the fixtures get to become an uphill struggle after december 4th (city then chelsea then arsenal), and given everton's recent form a result at Gooidson Park isn't the most far fetched thing in the world. leicester at home is probably gonna be the hardest of those 3 fixtures
well, maybe they can pull off the last spurt - winning strokes like Leicester did when they almost got relegated.
Eat me
well done. you were completely wrong.
Great video... I was not excited about Moyes taking over (I'm not a hammers fan mind you)... but this makes me want to pay a bit more attention to how they play.
I wonder if Andy Carrol and might instead be the target man Antonio/Ayew/Arnautovic/Lanzini playing the tucked in winger roles.
+Rudi Delport thanks Rudi We're glad you can take something away from This!
Could you please do an analysis of Diego maradona's Napoli side
Looking forward to playing west ham again (Birmingham City fan) our clubs have a lot in common proper fans and always have a soft spot for west ham
Can you analyze Bilic's post Payet tactics and see what exactly went wrong for WHU ?
Can you talk about the success of Red Star Belgrade in 1990-1991? Maybe a tactical profile on Dragan Stojkovic?
well ZAF used Pienaar in the middle between the mobile Tshabalala and Modise back in 2010 World Cup...
Can you do a video on Deportivo’s La Liga win in 1999-00?
the number of seasons, he was at Everton, he never got them relegated, and looking at the stats, that he had over 50% with Man Utd, the club which he was only given one season, after Alex Ferguson was nearly sacked at the beginning of his Man Utd, also the number of seasons Ferguson had as well, is going to be hard to copy that; Mourinho didn't get into the top 4, last season. His first game is against Watford, who after the Arsenal game have not been having great luck, and who don't have a good home record, so a result for Moyes, I think.
Moyes has done a good job after a rough start, but I didn't expect miracles with some of the first few games being Watford, Everton and Man City away. Since then he has lost only once and captured 15 of 24 points with a 50% win rate.
Yes he will keep them up IMO
+RickyPro do you think he will turn it around right away or it will take time?
I'll miss the days when West Ham played with a 5-2-3 formation.
West ham fans who think David Moyes will relegate them are deluded
nvscyyy Your opinion is worthless mate as it's based on bias and ignorance
@@tonyjlorns1727 looks like your opinion turned out to be worthless since 2 years on and Moyes has kept them up
Ross Barkley barely played a game under Moyes
Excellent analysis :)
Thanks Ian!
eddie howe playing style and tactics, next please
Best manager 🙌
Also What is Tifo Football? Its kinda scaring me. Never change guys please!
+Oscar nothing is changing. Just our name
uMAXit Football alright cool Ty for explaining.
does the voice come from text-to-speech software?
moyes did his best with sunderland and they are last in the champoinship so moyes is not to blame but the players are
Can you do an analysis on he dumpster fire that is Italy's failed qualification ?
do Chris Hughtons Brighton
4-4-1-1 is the same as 4-2-3-1 when you defend. Only Fifa players would think otherwise...
Correct, it is difficult to ever differentiate between them.
Usually in a 4-4-1-1 the first "1" is a "Hidden striker" or secondary striker, as in a 4-2-3-1 the player in the middle of the 3 is a number 10, and has usually more defensive responsibility. You do still have a point, and considering the role doesn't change all that much, it maybe is irrelevant to differentiate them.
Robert Bay which makes absolutely no difference. It all depends on the individual characteristic the number 10 has. It is still a 4-4-1-1 when you are defending...
King Calucha meh
Oh get over yourself. Stop pretending you're some sort of footballing sage because you know something about formations. I bet you play plenty FIFA yourself
hes played a 3-5-2 all seaon
Ben shawyer needs a new video now
Ben shawyer moyes football genius
No, just get that one right :O)
yeah i should do a video called ... Tactics Explained | David Moyes
With andy carroll up front that would be good
Which teams will get relegated this premier league cup season?
Great question. Discuss!
Aditya Dubey Newcastle will go down
Harry Walker not brighton, they've had a solid start
Harry Walker Brighton, Newcastle and Swansea will go down
Bournemouth, Palace(their start has been awful even if they are improving and Swansea because they cannot score
I really do not see Chicharito getting Minutes. Moyes seems to really dislike him. Its a shame bc i really want him to get in form for the WC!
If the Everton Moyes turns up, he will play Hernandez and use Carroll as a supersub like he did with Duncan Ferguson in 2004.
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What you saying now tifo??
genuinely hoping for Moyes to do well at West Ham. As long as the players are willing to hear him out. IMO his United tenure did not work mostly because the senior players did not believe in him hence the poor performance and Moyes losing the dress room
Sociedad and Sunderland was the aftermath of United's 10-month disaster tenure, he was not himself after that. When was the last time a manager from UK has been succesfull outside of UK? Also Sunderland were going down regardless who was in charge IMO
Adhitya Prianda disagree with that I genuinely think we would have avoided a relegation battle under allardyce but under moyes his negativity filtered through to the players and we never stood a chance
that's one possibility. As i said before, Sociedad and Sunderland were United's aftermath, Moyes at his lowest and clearly he was broken.
Wish this video was just a black screen
Ummm.... They are 4th now 😂😂
David moyes is a good manager the reasons he did not do well at other clubs
Man u gory hunters
Sociedad did not speak Spanish very well
Sunderland bad ownership
But westham are like eveoton he will be given time and they are Premier league club that won't get relegated
HAHAHA that graphic of David Moyes...
They changed the logo oh
Name change coming!
This man has tactics?
He was shocking for us last season, and the revisionism he's come out with since is really galling. Can't see it working, the man's a fraud.
The defensive stability line is nonsense.
I don't get why we blame managers for losing teams when they don't even get into the pitch
Sizwe A. Mabaso because they control the players and if the players don't do what the manager says (effectively losing the dressing room) they need to be sacked
Henry The Hover are you telling me that a group of men in their 20's need an old man to tell them how to do their jobs?
Sizwe A. Mabaso you must be trolling... if you are a football fan, then you have just written the dumbest thing ever. Did you have a lobotomy?
How about a updated video? Kept us up twice now😀
Oh
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So basically he could keep them up, but good luck for the rest of the to Manuel Lanzini
I hope he does well, man united destroyed his confidence
you are obsessed with him
Tim Cahill tall? Lol wot
So he's a bus Parker and uses 90s Hoff put in the crosses football
So where did Mikel Arteta, Thomas Gravsen, Leon Osman, Steven Pienaar, and Tim Cahill fit into the tactic you think he used?
west ham are going down!
moyes lmfao
Doing well aint he.
@@88balloonsonthewall70 aye lethal man
Moyes is an average premier league manager, not bad but nothing special
730th like
Tifo?? What tf gives 😓😓😓
Total bollox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!