I will FOREVER believe by this point, Robin wanted all 5 of them to debut, and was using this as a last chance to prove themselves and also work together. I will die on this hill!!!!
Exactly. She kept Charyle this week Secretly hoping she would let it all go and decide the drama isn’t for her etc but no, so they kept the 4 instead of 5 for the group. or I feel (Christina’s my fave)but they would have eliminated Christina instead of charlye and kept the other 3 along with her for the group.
I agree. But I think she knew she couldn’t cut Charlye or Tiffanie based of talent and wanted to keep Natalie for her looks so the only option was to keep all 5 of them and cut them later which she did with Tiffanie. Another theory.
Robin cared about getting them famous - therefore this show produced by someone with the same last name as Robin.. Thay want to make money on the backs of young women.. There is a reason why even Nicole & every other PCD is not getting along with Robin. Nicole & Robin will meet in court.. Robin made mad money by using young talanted, attractive women & taking any cred, money & publicity from PCD & this bcs she owns them. She wanted another group with even worse contracts. Were young girls gladly sign something similar to a slavery contract, to try to reach their dreams.. She's a predator in a sence. On the look out for new young victims to make money on..
@@kaylandlagrand461 maybe if they had the budget. It would have worked visually and Charlye’s vocal and swag would have made them more rnb and not so pop.
I really appreciate Tiffanie putting her differences aside Chrystina & Natalie and trying to get along with them...It goes to show how humble she is 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And for what ? She was very poorly treated on Girlicious and said later she needed a therapy during YEARS to be able to handle this. Charlie was smart enough to understand this group was not a good thing for her even if it was meaning the crush of her dream career.
@@choloyolo8522 yeah but still a bully with Charley I get she's good performer but she's so over the top. I prefer Christina and Natalie felt sorry for them when Tiffany and Charlie bullied with Nicole adding to the drama.
@@katharinebisset8348 In this kinds of situations one has to look at who started it. Which imo it's Natalie and Chrystina by being a catty duo from day 1. Tiffanie and Charlye are aggressive but they aren't truth twisters. Natalie even walked out on Ken and then tried to twist that! That was only the tip of the iceberg the judges saw and decided to forgive, not realizing there was all the rest of the iceberg with the other girls.
The How Many Lies song was beautiful. That is the perfect register for Natalie’s voice. Even Tiffanie finally nailed her parts and didn’t over sing for once.
@@afiqazri2723She is more tasty about which and how many tricks she uses than Tiffanie is, and she has better control, pitch, AND feel than Tiffanie. Tiffanie over sings like a schmalzy Broadway singer.
Lol at Natalie and Chrystina trying to play victim like they’re the ones being bullied when them two have been absolutely disgustingly nasty and mean girls the entire season TO EVERYONE.
@@LeeoGoneWild Her vocals were edited on this show. With that said, her recorded vocals honestly sound nice which is what the group is gonna be doing anyway.
@@LeeoGoneWild Oh you wanna get cute for no reason? I didn’t even say anything wrong, I was informing you about her voice. Chrystina and Natalie had their vocals re-recorded and edited for the episodes that aired on TV. Maybe you’re the one under a rock if you didn’t know that.
@@unimpressedcat2140 I don't think she's missing out on anything, I looked her up and found her RUclips channel. She has a beautiful house, owns a company and seems to live a pretty luxurious lifestyle Sad to see a waste of talent but she's probably more successful than most people in this episode turned out to be
I'm here starting to rewatch this episode after a while and already cringing because I remember how badly Chrystina messed up, and not only once... and they still kept her!
It's really interesting rewatching this so many years later and knowing everything that went down. At the time I used to LOVE Chrystina but even I couldn't understand why she was given so many chances, like this week she really BOMBED both interviews. But boy were they right about the fact that she just needed a little time to blossom, because in the actual group, after the show, she was the bomb and we can say that she was actually the lead singer of the group. In the performances she just stood out so much, the best live vocals and really good dance moves, she was trully the whole package.
I was thinking this too! After Tiffanie, Chrystina was easily the best singer. I still get chills listening to her bridge in Wake Up on the second album. Her voice is so powerful. I still don't understand why they picked on her so much because she was pretty good already. Her vocals weren't even bad in any shape or form, but I guess they knew she could do better which we saw when she was in the group.
Natalie and Christina like bashing other girls, then acting like the victims when they get called out 🙄 With that said, their performance at the end was one of my favourites of the season. They should have kept all 5 girls as the final group. The judges really liked Charlie, and Christina actually sounded really good 🤷🏻♀️
I have a feeling they were really thinking about doing that, especially because Charlye was really talented, but she just couldn't let it go and work with the other girls.
Lol, 3:30 with Natalie caressing Chrystina's hair and wiping away her tears, the fact that she was basically the one pursuing the friendship and was also the one to suggest taking a bath together. I'm starting to think that she had a crush on Chrystina. How adorable 🥰
It’s really interesting watching this back and hearing the audio difference for Charlye’s critiques and deliberations - seems like they edited those in after the fact. I would love to see unedited clips from this show or an interview with Charlye spilling the details because something more went on there for sure
Her conversation with Nichole . She Said : This is a bount of random girls ...that were told to get along . Nick agrees. I think That they edited tô make like, Nichole was mad at Charlie for not wanting tô get along with Chrys and NAT. I think That Nichole got upset with other thing
I always said in an alternative universe, Nichole, Tiffanie and Charlye would've made a good group. However, after hearing this performance, I can see why they didn't pick Charlye. Like Carrie, Charlye's voice doesn't blend well. Tiffanie has a powerful voice but since episode 3 when she was told to tone it down, she has and it made her blend in better. I think it's a case of Charlye never really receiving any bad feedback and so, she never made efforts to change her vocals. She's an amazing singer regardless and I wonder what it would've been like with her in the group.
Well the worst part is that she wasn’t even trying…I totally get that maybe she was hesitant to try due to past issues with them but it looked like she didn’t even wanna bother and already knew what was gonna happen
After that happened in the group on 2009, glad Charlie followed her heart. They kicked Tiff..Charlye would be Kicked too. The other label saw the group just with...Chrys..Nic and Nat. It was a pitty.
I know this is like 2008 and I know who gets through because I've seen their videos back in 2009/10 but how can they expect to be in a band with one another if they don't get along?
I think Charlye assumed that eventually Natalie or Chrystina would've been eliminated at some point and when she saw they likely weren't (because of their looks) she started to back out
@@janeryan2709 I do think they were talented but they were nowhere near as consistent as the other three girls in the finale Chrystina had a few bad weeks and Natalie had attitude problems and wasn't as vocally skilled as the other girls. I'm not saying they aren't talented, I just don't think they would've been given as many chances as they had if they weren't as pretty and I don't think Robyn would've made the group bigger to include them. They're marketable because of that and Robyn knew that, especially Natalie.
This whole thing was cringe. Like from the beginning you knew you were trying to be in a group with 2 other girls AND you dunno who those others would be. So you need to STOP and grow tf up! Like this group was doomed from jump. This is like the end of Danity Kane but at the very beginning. Yikes
Knowing that Chrystina was pregnant and the other girls knew that makes me wonder if that's the major reason Charlye was saying that there's a lot of things about her that she doesn't care for, having a child born out of wedlock
Actually, Chrystina said in her YT video that none of the girls knew that she was pregnant at the time. Not even Natalie. I believe only Robin and the producers knew about it. That's why they kept giving her chances - probably felt sorry for her and didn't want a lawsuit.
Charlye was laughing at her during the previous episode while they were in rehearsal (and while they were filming the music video), so she kind of deserved it.
After the insults charlye tossed out at crystina (and Jenna for that matter) after they did their challenge with the boys?! I’d say it was justified. 😒🤷🏼♀️
Natalie weirded me out when she asked Chrystina if she wanted to take a bath 😂😂 and then when Nichole goes looking for Natalie and tells Carrie they're in the bath still makes me laugh all these yrs later
Chrystina was the full package even though she was also presented as the most “flawed” on the show. Anyone who watched them during their brief success as a group recognizes why she was chosen. Natalie and Chrystina were marketable. And good live performers. Interestingly, Nichole was the weakest live performer when the group launched.
I wasn’t familiar but I just looked up some lives and you see to be right- Nichole really lacked energy live and Chrystina had leader vibes. Too bad she’s a homophobe now
@@ryanm7654 I don't find she was the weakest live or the best in the studio. One of the first weeks she was told she didn't have enough energy, but then she improved. Chrystina sometimes messed up the live shows (among the other things). And in the studio Nichole did not win, although I think she was great because her voice always is.
The problem is that this show actively undermines its own goal of having a cohesive group by *being* a reality show, which thrives on tension. Any resultant group that didn’t include people who were already close-knit was doomed to failure from its inception. You can’t have it both ways… ETA: heaven bless Kenny for trying to hold it together with both hands; “it’s about the *ART*.” Sure, bud…
Chrystina Chrystina Chrystina! 💜 its definitely something about Chrystina that i completely LOVE + shes super talented and beautiful! heck with it! lets just add on Chrystina into #thepussycatdolls with season one winner the Beautiful Asia!! ❤️
Honestly watching Chystina in music videos apart of girlicious and knowing she was apart of the lineup of the new pussycat dolls showed me why she was picked
bc they saw how truly Talented Chrystina is! 🔥⭐💜 Robyn KNEW that Chrystina is a STAR! ⭐❤️ and im sure it was editing and the other girls mess ups just arent aired to us bc thats not the storyline of the show - Chrystina was clearly the underdog this season -
They were testing Chrystina. Even when she was in the bottom two I saw a few people who could of been there over her. Charlye even said it the first time she went for respect "Chrystina shouldn't of been in bottom two" and someone else said "they made her sweat." And they did Chrystina ended up being the stand out of the group she shined the most. But they probably was putting pressure on her to see if she was strong enough to deal with a thickle industry. They made the right call with her.
Jenna should have stayed over her but Jenna’s a little big at the time of the competition so maybe it’s a look thing. She lacks the dancing ability too
I think a couple of times they did use poles, even just briefly? Also, once they made them sing on roller blades... pole dancing was just another thing that could come in handy at some point. I don't like how Alexis was judgemental of it, pole dancing isn't lap dancing, it's not necessarily sensual... and many things in Girlicious were sensual anyway, regardless of the involvement of a pole... not sure why she had something against pole dancing but nothing against all the other things.
Ok can we be very honest here for a minute? The better looking girls would’ve made the group regardless of talent. Mediocre voice or dance moves or not, they would’ve made it. (Talking about from the beginning). After Ilisa’s elimination I realized it was never about talent but about making a teeny bop version of the Pussycat Dolls. They were always going to put either Tiffanie or Charlie in the group to have that urban feel that they were initially going for. Chrystina’s sound and look could be considered ambiguous. Natalie was gonna make it. Mediocre voice or not. She has the look and Nicole was the only blonde who was well-rounded.
I have a hard time with this whole thing. Someone older wirh connections trying to make money on the backs of young women who sells sex. Abuse will be a sure thing in cases like this..
Lol no wonder why this group didnt last longer than 3 years. Half of the eventual group didn't like the other half. In retrospect, obviously not a great way to put a group together.
The group didn’t last because they kicked Tiffanie out for having a look and sound that was too urban and were (racist, basically) They never promoted the group well either. It wasn’t because of them getting along or not, it was management
not gonna lie ... the way some of u hype up certain ppl in the show when in reality i think they are all kinda rude bitchy weird ppl bc some of the stuff theyve said made me side eye them . the only ones in my opinion who were actually cool and nice were carrie and ilysa , casandra ,
Agree. Soo many "second chances". And imo she was the one with the worst looks, btw. She has a "resting ***** face". Not that she was ugly... but I really don't see what she added to the group, even looks-wise.
they look great as a 5 piece but chrystina should’ve got the boot too charlye just made it clear she wasn’t gonna work with nat and chrys she was checked out at this point
Chrystina had a voice that blended, stage presence, she was also the strongest dancer alongside Natalie. On top of that, lie you said, her looks were marketable. Robin Antin worked with Chrystina exclusively once the group broke up. So it’s kind of obvious why she made it
shes definitely good! lol but ik what you mean! she made it into #Girlicious though so im pretty sure that Chrystina is just fine! ⭐💜🔥 i want to hear her SOLO DOLO these days!
charyle probably regrets not putting her ego aside and actually giving natalie and chrystina a chance and make amends with them. she lost out on a great opportunity because she didn’t want to get along with them.
I will FOREVER believe by this point, Robin wanted all 5 of them to debut, and was using this as a last chance to prove themselves and also work together. I will die on this hill!!!!
Yeah I believe that too cuz all throughout the show, it was always those 5 which had drama with each other
Exactly. She kept Charyle this week Secretly hoping she would let it all go and decide the drama isn’t for her etc but no, so they kept the 4 instead of 5 for the group. or I feel (Christina’s my fave)but they would have eliminated Christina instead of charlye and kept the other 3 along with her for the group.
I agree. But I think she knew she couldn’t cut Charlye or Tiffanie based of talent and wanted to keep Natalie for her looks so the only option was to keep all 5 of them and cut them later which she did with Tiffanie. Another theory.
Robin cared about getting them famous - therefore this show produced by someone with the same last name as Robin..
Thay want to make money on the backs of young women..
There is a reason why even Nicole & every other PCD is not getting along with Robin. Nicole & Robin will meet in court..
Robin made mad money by using young talanted, attractive women & taking any cred, money & publicity from PCD & this bcs she owns them.
She wanted another group with even worse contracts. Were young girls gladly sign something similar to a slavery contract, to try to reach their dreams..
She's a predator in a sence. On the look out for new young victims to make money on..
I feel like this is true cuz at 33:00 robin said to Charlie that she felt she wasn’t “jelling well with the rest of the GROUP” LOL so for sure
I think the judges lowkey wanted Charlie to wake up and realize she had to show will to make THE GROUP work. Ego can become a boundarie sometimes...
You always said Charlie had an ego but she was just honest and smart. She knew Nathalie was a cancer. This girl ruin the groupe inside.
If Charlie had a better personality, GIRLICIOUS would’ve been 5 girls I think
The top 5 Buttons performance is one of my favourites. All 5 together sounded soooo good!
Drama aside they look really good as a five piece band.
I think that if the judges felt like Charlye got alone with Chrystina & Natalie it would’ve been 5 of them
@@kaylandlagrand461 maybe if they had the budget. It would have worked visually and Charlye’s vocal and swag would have made them more rnb and not so pop.
I really appreciate Tiffanie putting her differences aside Chrystina & Natalie and trying to get along with them...It goes to show how humble she is 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And for what ? She was very poorly treated on Girlicious and said later she needed a therapy during YEARS to be able to handle this. Charlie was smart enough to understand this group was not a good thing for her even if it was meaning the crush of her dream career.
@@joffreyg7994 Uhm I wasn’t talking about that, I was talking about how humble Tiffanie is.
@@choloyolo8522 yeah but still a bully with Charley I get she's good performer but she's so over the top. I prefer Christina and Natalie felt sorry for them when Tiffany and Charlie bullied with Nicole adding to the drama.
For what the two trouble makers are the reason why the group didn’t go anywhere and Tiffanie was kicked out for being too Black
@@katharinebisset8348 In this kinds of situations one has to look at who started it. Which imo it's Natalie and Chrystina by being a catty duo from day 1. Tiffanie and Charlye are aggressive but they aren't truth twisters. Natalie even walked out on Ken and then tried to twist that! That was only the tip of the iceberg the judges saw and decided to forgive, not realizing there was all the rest of the iceberg with the other girls.
Just imagine how good Carrie would have done these songs 😮💨
@@jj_rbno and Jenna
I’m dying how they were trying to resolve their differences but they were too focused on their nails to even look at each other 🤣🤣🤣
How Many Times, How Many Lies was my favorite one
When I was younger, I really wanted those girlicious hoodies. I am not even a girl.
i still do! 🥳😭🤩
I still want one
Charley sabotaged herself. The judges loved her but couldn’t put her differences aside to make it work
The How Many Lies song was beautiful. That is the perfect register for Natalie’s voice. Even Tiffanie finally nailed her parts and didn’t over sing for once.
Loved the girls rendotion of How Many Lies?
These girls need to be perfection.
Micky is a awesome choreographer
Nicole in the beginning of Buttons sounded like an angel from heaven above if I've ever heard one
The funny thing is, making Charlye think she was going home and then keeping her was a test, and then she failed it the next episode 😂
It's funny how everyone who agreed to put the bs aside for the group are the ones who all made Girlicious.
yesss; ⭐💜
@William Howe yeah that was the vision she had but then Charlie didn't want to be in a group with christina and natalie so she went home
Chrystina got entirely too many chances.
I agree
Because of her vocals I think, she’s amongst the girls with stronger vocals
@@afiqazri2723She is more tasty about which and how many tricks she uses than Tiffanie is, and she has better control, pitch, AND feel than Tiffanie. Tiffanie over sings like a schmalzy Broadway singer.
Honestly speaking, these 5 ladies are GIRLICIOUS! They let Charlye go.
Lol at Natalie and Chrystina trying to play victim like they’re the ones being bullied when them two have been absolutely disgustingly nasty and mean girls the entire season TO EVERYONE.
Right like everyone forget the first few eps when the moved into together and we’re making fun of the other girls
Favorite part of performance is nathalie’s part in how many lies she has so much swag!
She killed it !
I never understood the criticism of her voice, she is literally perfection. Better than Britney Spears in the category of performing.
@@LeeoGoneWild Her vocals were edited on this show.
With that said, her recorded vocals honestly sound nice which is what the group is gonna be doing anyway.
@@ryanm7654 All of their vocals were “edited.” Do you live under a rock?
@@LeeoGoneWild Oh you wanna get cute for no reason? I didn’t even say anything wrong, I was informing you about her voice.
Chrystina and Natalie had their vocals re-recorded and edited for the episodes that aired on TV. Maybe you’re the one under a rock if you didn’t know that.
Idc Natalie was not as bad of a singer as they made her out to be. She sounds really decent
I agree. She might not have been a "strong" vocalist but I really liked her sound. Very sultry and it does blend into a group nicely
Agreed. I always thought her voice was pretty.
Charlie’s immaturity cost her her career
If she wasn’t that bad why when she got into a group with her sisters that didn’t go anywhere either just stop the nonsense she couldn’t sing
@@unimpressedcat2140 I don't think she's missing out on anything, I looked her up and found her RUclips channel. She has a beautiful house, owns a company and seems to live a pretty luxurious lifestyle
Sad to see a waste of talent but she's probably more successful than most people in this episode turned out to be
Christyna is me talking to a random group in public lmao 🤣
I'm here starting to rewatch this episode after a while and already cringing because I remember how badly Chrystina messed up, and not only once... and they still kept her!
2024 and I still listen to this cover. Same goes for ‘ how many times’! Also still listen to Chrystina’s cover for ‘ what above love’
Not Christina saying she can only take so much criticism but her and Natalie being a bully the entire season 🙄
It's really interesting rewatching this so many years later and knowing everything that went down. At the time I used to LOVE Chrystina but even I couldn't understand why she was given so many chances, like this week she really BOMBED both interviews. But boy were they right about the fact that she just needed a little time to blossom, because in the actual group, after the show, she was the bomb and we can say that she was actually the lead singer of the group. In the performances she just stood out so much, the best live vocals and really good dance moves, she was trully the whole package.
I was thinking this too! After Tiffanie, Chrystina was easily the best singer. I still get chills listening to her bridge in Wake Up on the second album. Her voice is so powerful. I still don't understand why they picked on her so much because she was pretty good already. Her vocals weren't even bad in any shape or form, but I guess they knew she could do better which we saw when she was in the group.
Natalie and Christina like bashing other girls, then acting like the victims when they get called out 🙄 With that said, their performance at the end was one of my favourites of the season. They should have kept all 5 girls as the final group. The judges really liked Charlie, and Christina actually sounded really good 🤷🏻♀️
I have a feeling they were really thinking about doing that, especially because Charlye was really talented, but she just couldn't let it go and work with the other girls.
Yes Natalie was the first mean girl of the house than when she was outnumbered played victim. Chrystina was just a follower.
Lol, 3:30 with Natalie caressing Chrystina's hair and wiping away her tears, the fact that she was basically the one pursuing the friendship and was also the one to suggest taking a bath together. I'm starting to think that she had a crush on Chrystina.
How adorable 🥰
I feel like she manipulated her a lot
I’m thinking they were lowkey bisexual.. 🤔
It’s really interesting watching this back and hearing the audio difference for Charlye’s critiques and deliberations - seems like they edited those in after the fact. I would love to see unedited clips from this show or an interview with Charlye spilling the details because something more went on there for sure
Her conversation with Nichole . She Said : This is a bount of random girls ...that were told to get along . Nick agrees. I think That they edited tô make like, Nichole was mad at Charlie for not wanting tô get along with Chrys and NAT. I think That Nichole got upset with other thing
This episode was critic. Here we can see that Charlie doesn't click with the other girls as a Group, and we all know how it ended.
I always said in an alternative universe, Nichole, Tiffanie and Charlye would've made a good group. However, after hearing this performance, I can see why they didn't pick Charlye. Like Carrie, Charlye's voice doesn't blend well. Tiffanie has a powerful voice but since episode 3 when she was told to tone it down, she has and it made her blend in better. I think it's a case of Charlye never really receiving any bad feedback and so, she never made efforts to change her vocals. She's an amazing singer regardless and I wonder what it would've been like with her in the group.
Well the worst part is that she wasn’t even trying…I totally get that maybe she was hesitant to try due to past issues with them but it looked like she didn’t even wanna bother and already knew what was gonna happen
It makes sense why Charlie didn't get picked to be apart of the group. She wasn't a team player.
Tiffany was very mature for doing that
The most mature ones of all girls
After that happened in the group on 2009, glad Charlie followed her heart. They kicked Tiff..Charlye would be Kicked too. The other label saw the group just with...Chrys..Nic and Nat. It was a pitty.
I know this is like 2008 and I know who gets through because I've seen their videos back in 2009/10 but how can they expect to be in a band with one another if they don't get along?
Most realist part they in the back drinking capri sun 💜
Once again Charlye and her stank additude. Lol. Im so happy that Nichole is finally seeing it.
Chrystina is my Fav!!!!
Charlie has bad attitude & tiffany is tooo dramatic shes a total drama queen!
I always felt like Nicole had a cute voice and tone but she has this lag in her voice that drives me insane
I’ve never watched Extra in my whole life.
Nicole is so attentive
i think charlye's biggest fear was getting stuck in a group with chrystina and natalie thats why she didn't try as hard
Natalie was the only one to win two challenges
they did that with these performances!
Wish we got studio versions of these songs from them
I think Charlye assumed that eventually Natalie or Chrystina would've been eliminated at some point and when she saw they likely weren't (because of their looks) she started to back out
Natalie and Chrystina were very talented WTF are you talking about?
@@janeryan2709 I do think they were talented but they were nowhere near as consistent as the other three girls in the finale
Chrystina had a few bad weeks and Natalie had attitude problems and wasn't as vocally skilled as the other girls.
I'm not saying they aren't talented, I just don't think they would've been given as many chances as they had if they weren't as pretty and I don't think Robyn would've made the group bigger to include them. They're marketable because of that and Robyn knew that, especially Natalie.
This whole thing was cringe. Like from the beginning you knew you were trying to be in a group with 2 other girls AND you dunno who those others would be. So you need to STOP and grow tf up! Like this group was doomed from jump. This is like the end of Danity Kane but at the very beginning. Yikes
It’s really impressive now in hindsight with Chrystina being pregnant during the competition
WHAT? How'd you know about this?
Whoa
@@ItsNotAboutThePastaashe talks about it on her RUclips channel
@@ItsNotAboutThePastaa She has a youtube channel and made videos talking about this.
Watching these episodes just keeps reminding me how annoying Tiffanie’s voice actually was imo… sheesh😵💫
Honestly after these 2 crazy excellent performances they all deserved to be in the group
I kept cringing through chrystina speaking on tv appearance
how she made the group is beyond lol
@@coreynbca she suited the group though, she was the whole package
She could have stopped herself so many times, but she had to keep going and stumping herself again and again 😬
@@crsh2007 I was thinking stop already 😂 very pretty but 🤐
She never got better either. All her interviews are cringy
Knowing that Chrystina was pregnant and the other girls knew that makes me wonder if that's the major reason Charlye was saying that there's a lot of things about her that she doesn't care for, having a child born out of wedlock
Actually, Chrystina said in her YT video that none of the girls knew that she was pregnant at the time. Not even Natalie. I believe only Robin and the producers knew about it. That's why they kept giving her chances - probably felt sorry for her and didn't want a lawsuit.
I 💯 agree. It also goes back to the boys dancing with them too and the comments Tiff and Charyle made!!
The audacity of Chrystina laughing at Charlye after she absolutely butchered her interviews 💀💀
Charlye was laughing at her during the previous episode while they were in rehearsal (and while they were filming the music video), so she kind of deserved it.
After the insults charlye tossed out at crystina (and Jenna for that matter) after they did their challenge with the boys?!
I’d say it was justified.
😒🤷🏼♀️
Natalie and Chrystina were a lesbian fantasy fr lol
And nowadays they are two raging homophobes😍😍😍
Natalie weirded me out when she asked Chrystina if she wanted to take a bath 😂😂 and then when Nichole goes looking for Natalie and tells Carrie they're in the bath still makes me laugh all these yrs later
Chrystina was the full package even though she was also presented as the most “flawed” on the show. Anyone who watched them during their brief success as a group recognizes why she was chosen.
Natalie and Chrystina were marketable. And good live performers. Interestingly, Nichole was the weakest live performer when the group launched.
I wasn’t familiar but I just looked up some lives and you see to be right- Nichole really lacked energy live and Chrystina had leader vibes. Too bad she’s a homophobe now
Nichole has the best voice though. And she's more consistent than Chrystina.
@@alicedamiano7718 Like I said. Nichole was the weakest live performer, including vocally. She was the best voice in the studio.
@@ryanm7654 I don't find she was the weakest live or the best in the studio.
One of the first weeks she was told she didn't have enough energy, but then she improved. Chrystina sometimes messed up the live shows (among the other things).
And in the studio Nichole did not win, although I think she was great because her voice always is.
@@alicedamiano7718 I'm talking about their career after the tv show. In the real world.
Chrystina was the best live. Nichole was the worst.
They were mad that Chrystina and Natalie were isolating themselves even though they were just talking mess about them????
At this point it wasn't about talent but getting along as a group and you can tell why Charlye was out and Robin put the 4 girls as the group
The problem is that this show actively undermines its own goal of having a cohesive group by *being* a reality show, which thrives on tension. Any resultant group that didn’t include people who were already close-knit was doomed to failure from its inception. You can’t have it both ways…
ETA: heaven bless Kenny for trying to hold it together with both hands; “it’s about the *ART*.” Sure, bud…
Chrystina Chrystina Chrystina! 💜 its definitely something about Chrystina that i completely LOVE + shes super talented and beautiful! heck with it! lets just add on Chrystina into #thepussycatdolls with season one winner the Beautiful Asia!! ❤️
“Seriously everyone watches Extra!”
Was extra actually a big thing?
Honestly watching Chystina in music videos apart of girlicious and knowing she was apart of the lineup of the new pussycat dolls showed me why she was picked
Why did they make Chrystina seem so insecure like none of the others cared about working together.. I guess that was the plot by the producers?
After the radio incident and constantly not knowing the lyrics in the past, how did Chrystina win?
bc they saw how truly Talented Chrystina is! 🔥⭐💜 Robyn KNEW that Chrystina is a STAR! ⭐❤️ and im sure it was editing and the other girls mess ups just arent aired to us bc thats not the storyline of the show - Chrystina was clearly the underdog this season -
She won because she was best friends with Natalie.
They were testing Chrystina. Even when she was in the bottom two I saw a few people who could of been there over her. Charlye even said it the first time she went for respect "Chrystina shouldn't of been in bottom two" and someone else said "they made her sweat." And they did Chrystina ended up being the stand out of the group she shined the most. But they probably was putting pressure on her to see if she was strong enough to deal with a thickle industry. They made the right call with her.
It’s crazy that’s chrystina was pregnant this whole time
CHRISHTINYA SHOLD HAVE BEEN SENT HOME LONG AGO
Jenna should have stayed over her but Jenna’s a little big at the time of the competition so maybe it’s a look thing. She lacks the dancing ability too
Anyone else thought the pole was kinda pointless since no one in this show ever did any tricks or spins on it? 😂
I think a couple of times they did use poles, even just briefly?
Also, once they made them sing on roller blades... pole dancing was just another thing that could come in handy at some point. I don't like how Alexis was judgemental of it, pole dancing isn't lap dancing, it's not necessarily sensual... and many things in Girlicious were sensual anyway, regardless of the involvement of a pole... not sure why she had something against pole dancing but nothing against all the other things.
Ok can we be very honest here for a minute? The better looking girls would’ve made the group regardless of talent. Mediocre voice or dance moves or not, they would’ve made it. (Talking about from the beginning). After Ilisa’s elimination I realized it was never about talent but about making a teeny bop version of the Pussycat Dolls. They were always going to put either Tiffanie or Charlie in the group to have that urban feel that they were initially going for. Chrystina’s sound and look could be considered ambiguous. Natalie was gonna make it. Mediocre voice or not. She has the look and Nicole was the only blonde who was well-rounded.
charlie really ruined it for herself which is a shame..
I have a hard time with this whole thing. Someone older wirh connections trying to make money on the backs of young women who sells sex.
Abuse will be a sure thing in cases like this..
Charlye should’ve been in the group
Well Charlye that’s exactly why you didn’t make it! 🤷🏻♀️
Lol no wonder why this group didnt last longer than 3 years. Half of the eventual group didn't like the other half.
In retrospect, obviously not a great way to put a group together.
The group didn’t last because they kicked Tiffanie out for having a look and sound that was too urban and were (racist, basically)
They never promoted the group well either. It wasn’t because of them getting along or not, it was management
not gonna lie ... the way some of u hype up certain ppl in the show when in reality i think they are all kinda rude bitchy weird ppl bc some of the stuff theyve said made me side eye them . the only ones in my opinion who were actually cool and nice were carrie and ilysa , casandra ,
Jaime and Alexis were alright too, the others were all bitchy at one point
The crazy thing is I do THINK Tiffany changed her face a lil bit recently
Chrystina is horrible. She should have went home longgggg ago. She only got into the group bc of her looks
Agree. Soo many "second chances". And imo she was the one with the worst looks, btw. She has a "resting ***** face". Not that she was ugly... but I really don't see what she added to the group, even looks-wise.
In this episode you can see how 2 faced Nicole is
How so?
And when Natalie lost her grandma Nicole didn’t gaf
they look great as a 5 piece but chrystina should’ve got the boot too charlye just made it clear she wasn’t gonna work with nat and chrys she was checked out at this point
I still think if she wouldve put differences aside it wouldve been a five person group
Idk how Christina made it into the group, she was consistently bad. the judges must have REALLY liked how she looked 🥴
Chrystina had a voice that blended, stage presence, she was also the strongest dancer alongside Natalie. On top of that, lie you said, her looks were marketable. Robin Antin worked with Chrystina exclusively once the group broke up. So it’s kind of obvious why she made it
Was that Jojo Wright??? 😱😱😱 I didn’t even recognize him lol I love him so much 🥰🥰🥰
Why does everyone say Natalie can't sing ?
I think it's because the others are jealous :T
@@caviarandchampagne no its cause she cant
She cant 😭
Because she can’t 😂
Yes, I think her voice is my favourite
I feel bad for Christina
shes definitely good! lol but ik what you mean! she made it into #Girlicious though so im pretty sure that Chrystina is just fine! ⭐💜🔥 i want to hear her SOLO DOLO these days!
The dance teacher is annoying
クリスティーナとナタリーは魅力的だけど途中で離れた方がお互いの為になった気がする。。
Charlie went home cause she has a BAD attitude
I remember seeing Mickey in an episode of the hills.
I think they would had been more successful as a 5 girl group they would had been like danity kane.
I wanted to like Charlie but she was negative from day 1. Def deserved to be cut
charyle probably regrets not putting her ego aside and actually giving natalie and chrystina a chance and make amends with them. she lost out on a great opportunity because she didn’t want to get along with them.
I wished they had tried something better.
Timham feito um grupo novo seria melhor
I don’t like Mikey 😂 rude af
Charlye and Tiffanie are talented but they don't stand out and they're actually bullies. Natalie and Chrystina are actually interesting and talented
completely disagree
I 100% agree. Nat and Chyrs were more charismatic.
Think it’s the other way around lol
That’s why they had to attack natalie and Christina cuz they feel threatened
Actually you can change your looks.... it’s called plastic surgery
Natalie had the weakest vocals