Many of the WASPS were trained at the airport in Sweetwater, Texas. Those ladies provided a great service to our country as they risked their lives to ferry aircraft to the places the men took them over for combat. They maximized the efficiency of the USAAF's pilot staff. Now, the current Miss America is a USAF combat pilot. Go figure.
Marguerite Gambo still ran her flight school in Honolulu in the 70s. I got my instrument rating there. She claimed the scene in the movie was based on her experience. As a coincidence, the stunt pilot who flew the scene in the movie was a flight instructor at the school in San Jose where I got my private license! Odd but true!
I worked at the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum last year and the pic at 11:06 really takes me back. Great place to work though some of the upper management is a disaster. IMO If you do donate to that museum, have it go to the maintenance department, their bottom line needs better financial support. Great video btw, if you ever go there, some of the docents have amazing stories.
Piper Cubs regularly out manoeuvred WW2 fighters. The key was getting low and literally in the weeds using trees for cover. The Fieseler Storch and Russian Po-2 used the same technique. Being bounced was however bad news which was why military Piper Cubs had more extensive glazing than the civilian versions.
"Piper Cubs regularly out manoeuvred WW2 fighers" "I asked a spotter plane pilot what happened when a German fighter planes attacked. He said they would put their planes into an L-shaped turn; the faster fighter would just shoot on by. As long as they we weren't boxed in by 6 planes we were safe, if that happened though we were done for." -my father, a WW2 veteran, reminiscing about a conversation he had with an American spotter plane pilot during the war.
@@sonofadyingnation7186 And if the fighter pilot just peppers the Piper Cub from "afar", the Piper Cub pilot won't be able to evade bullets. That would still be many bullets for one spotter plane, though.
Her depiction in _Tora! Tora! Tora!_ didn't register with me so this is really the first I've heard on Fort's story especially her death in the line of duty. Thanks!
This event with Cornelia Clark Fort is portrayed in the 1970 movie Tora! Tora! Tora! The movie was a collaboration between Japanese and American directors, and the movie intended to represent as historically accurate as possible. The cast did not include star actors. The movie contains two distortions. The Japanese made it seem like there was a delay in presenting a declaration of war to the American Secretary of State in Washington. The document was another ultimatum designed to turn suspicion away from the possibility of a surprise attack. This distortion appears again at the end of the movie. The second inaccuracy is the depiction of Emperor Hirohito, where it is Prime Minister Tojo, not the Emperor who has the power to make military decisions. I sometimes get up at 7 am on December 7th to watch this movie. The Japanese attack started at 7:55 AM local time. When I was visiting Hawaii, one of my priorities was to go to Pearl Harbour and visit the Arizona Memorial. Regrettably, we did not have time for the tour of the USS Missouri or USS Bowfin, and we did not have time for a second visit. ruclips.net/video/LpqhRTKKZCw/видео.html&ab_channel=ChrisMartinus
When I was a docent at a Fighter Aircraft Museum, one of my fellow docents was one of those women WASPs she had more flying time and with so many different aircraft- then, anyone! Margaret I think was her name.
Thanks for the great video,,The scene in Tora Tora Tora movie shows her taking over the plane and getting away.. Thanks for her whole story fascinating... Thanks!!!
The smallest story, has so much depth to it !!!!!!!!!! Another great story as part of PEARL HARBOR HISTORY I might look up more from this story… The Story of the WaSP could make a good movie… A lot of female actors available if someone would write a good Script… I think it could FLY ( pardon the pun ) CHRIS 🇺🇸
I think it would make a great story. Even this Pearl Harbor story would be great. They are too busy making fictional rubbish like Fury and Inglorious Bastards.
@@War_And_Truth Yep, nothing like it was, now it's pride day and every other nonsensical group celebrated instead of people who sacrificed their lives to make the world better.
In the UK, during the Battle of Britain, the Air Transport Auxiliary was formed - for men and women of the UK and Commonwealth and including Americans and European refugees. The first eight women were accepted into service on New Years Day 1940, and 168 women served in the 1245 strong force, that delivered all type, Spitfires to Lancaster bombers. Since they kept bumping into enemy aircraft, they eventually all flew with loaded guns. 174 pilots, 14 of them women were killed during the war.
I had always assumed her depiction in Tora! Tora! Tora! was just something the film maker through in. I really appreciate your work to make her story known.
Thats "Vi-two-Sick"...as its pronounced. Kimo Vitousek was My 4th Grade Buddy At Kahala Elementary in Honolulu 1972. His Dad was Martin. Martin Later Flew for Hawaiian Airlines for Many years...those Bi Plane lessons paid off as it were. Have no idea what Kimo Ended up doing later on in his life.
@@codycoyote6912 yeah, its the AI thing. I've been reading more and more on MANY other Websites about how people are complaining more and more about A.I. and how sick of it people are. I cant blame them
My Luscombe 8A was one of 5 Luscomes and 2 WACOs at the Ft Collins school where Cornelia was briefly an instructor. Can't prove it (yet) but I expect she flew my plane a few times while instructing there.
Every bit as much, that happened on that day. I remember thinking as a kid the civ planes, especially the two ladies in the bipe, were made up. Tora Tora Tora came out when I was in elementary school and it was the most amazing movie of it's time. Pretty corny today, but that was Hollywood Magic of it's time. My grandmother, who's 103 helped build a bunch of them planes up in Willow Run along with my Granddad. At the time, women were the stateside pilots to the coasts to head across the ponds. They were just as important as anyone in the cockpit and just as capable. I'll never forget a Dash ride to Cleveland with 2 lady pilots, back when the doors were open. They sat down in a x-wind that had me shittin my pants. I had just gotten my private license so was chatting with them. I said, nope, that wasn't for me! they laughed "Weren't scared were ya?" laughing and I laughed nope, cause you wouldn't have tried it if you didn't know you could do it ;) ~ I trust ya! ~ I was good for a go-around but nope, they landed her crab and brought it around for a firm "gotcha" on the ground....Women are just mentally tougher man, when shit matters, if they cool, they cool. But being a girl dad does that to ya :)
Actually, what this story shows is that a Piper Club and similar aircraft does have a chance of surviving an attack by a Zero. Many of them did at Pearl Harbor. As was common in real air combat, most loses occur when a plane is caught from behind unaware, flying in a straight line, giving a straight forward firing solution to an airplane attacking from behind. If the pilot sees the Zeros ahead of time, or survives the initial attack, they could evade well enough, particularly with Zero pilots intent on their main mission. However, even determined attacks are not a sure thing since slower planes generally can turn sharper and one needs a somewhat lucky deflection shot to get a critical hit.Christopher Wray One key is not to make a beeline to the nearest airport. Beelines provide easy firing solutions. Instead, concentrate on where the enemies are and turn toward them so they have to shoot from behind, not from directly behind or ahead.
First time I've ever heard about this. I'd always figured there had to have been some civilian aircraft during the attack, given the segment with the lady instructor and the PT-17, but that was all I'd ever seen. It's not mentioned in any of the books I've read on the attack.
Important account. So much for the so called honour of Japanese military. Massively outnumbered and unarmed civilian training aircraft. How brave of the enemy. So sad Miss Fort survived to then lose her life later. Although later in the video you seem to say she was shot down in a cadet? She was a vibrant,brave lady. She will not be forgotten.
I wish they would show more about civilians who stepped up and pulled the weight in every field to replace boys and men drafted or volunteered for military service...I think every school needs to show WW2 history not just battles but also individuals in all services even the ones who served as nurses,medics ext...maybe we can get the people to wake up to all the attacks on our Consituition and what our rights under it.....instead of the sunshine patriots who only are Americans when things are going their way.
There was a small plane airport named after Cornelia Fort in Nashville, but it is closed now. I appreciate your details about Ms. Fort.
Closed after the flood in Nashville 2010 I think.
There was no such thing as "Ms" back then.
Many of the WASPS were trained at the airport in Sweetwater, Texas. Those ladies provided a great service to our country as they risked their lives to ferry aircraft to the places the men took them over for combat. They maximized the efficiency of the USAAF's pilot staff. Now, the current Miss America is a USAF combat pilot. Go figure.
That's very interesting. What goes around comes back around at some stage.
If she won Miss America, she's probably got a GREAT figure. 😏
Marguerite Gambo still ran her flight school in Honolulu in the 70s. I got my instrument rating there. She claimed the scene in the movie was based on her experience. As a coincidence, the stunt pilot who flew the scene in the movie was a flight instructor at the school in San Jose where I got my private license! Odd but true!
Thanks for your comment, its great history.
I worked at the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum last year and the pic at 11:06 really takes me back. Great place to work though some of the upper management is a disaster. IMO If you do donate to that museum, have it go to the maintenance department, their bottom line needs better financial support. Great video btw, if you ever go there, some of the docents have amazing stories.
Piper Cubs regularly out manoeuvred WW2 fighters.
The key was getting low and literally in the weeds using trees for cover.
The Fieseler Storch and Russian Po-2 used the same technique.
Being bounced was however bad news which was why military Piper Cubs had more extensive glazing than the civilian versions.
That's interesting, thanks for sharing.
"Piper Cubs regularly out manoeuvred WW2 fighers"
"I asked a spotter plane pilot what happened when a German fighter planes attacked. He said they would put their planes into an L-shaped turn; the faster fighter would just shoot on by. As long as they we weren't boxed in by 6 planes we were safe, if that happened though we were done for." -my father, a WW2 veteran, reminiscing about a conversation he had with an American spotter plane pilot during the war.
@@sonofadyingnation7186
And if the fighter pilot just peppers the Piper Cub from "afar", the Piper Cub pilot won't be able to evade bullets.
That would still be many bullets for one spotter plane, though.
@@sonofadyingnation7186
By the way, thank you for your bit of family history.
Her depiction in _Tora! Tora! Tora!_ didn't register with me so this is really the first I've heard on Fort's story especially her death in the line of duty. Thanks!
No problem, I thought it was a great (and tragic) story.
The first plane my Dad trained me in was a 48 Cub. That plane couldn't run from a balloon. Must have been terrifying up there with those fighters.
Thank you for not playing music during narration and a very interesting presentation.
I cannot stand music being played in any type of video, especially the educational type. Thanks for your support.
One never hears about this history- fascinating!
This event with Cornelia Clark Fort is portrayed in the 1970 movie Tora! Tora! Tora! The movie was a collaboration between Japanese and American directors, and the movie intended to represent as historically accurate as possible. The cast did not include star actors.
The movie contains two distortions. The Japanese made it seem like there was a delay in presenting a declaration of war to the American Secretary of State in Washington. The document was another ultimatum designed to turn suspicion away from the possibility of a surprise attack. This distortion appears again at the end of the movie.
The second inaccuracy is the depiction of Emperor Hirohito, where it is Prime Minister Tojo, not the Emperor who has the power to make military decisions.
I sometimes get up at 7 am on December 7th to watch this movie. The Japanese attack started at 7:55 AM local time. When I was visiting Hawaii, one of my priorities was to go to Pearl Harbour and visit the Arizona Memorial. Regrettably, we did not have time for the tour of the USS Missouri or USS Bowfin, and we did not have time for a second visit.
ruclips.net/video/LpqhRTKKZCw/видео.html&ab_channel=ChrisMartinus
I just went through a whole rollercoaster of emotions throughout this! Never knew this story. Great work!
Cheers. Yes it was a very sad story,
When I was a docent at a Fighter Aircraft Museum, one of my fellow docents was one of those women WASPs she had more flying time and with so many different aircraft- then, anyone!
Margaret I think was her name.
Didn't know anything about the civil aviation events that you described. Thanks for doing this........well done!
Another fascinating and in depth video. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your research is fantastic. Thanks, W&T, take care.
Thanks mate
Excellent content as always - thank you!
My pleasure!
Interesting. I've driven through Merkel, TX hundreds of times, and never knew about Fort.
One thing that is never talked about, several of the WASPs was kill when their Aircraft was sabotaged.
Sabotaged? By whom??
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Yeah, that’s the big question.
Male chauvinist, spies… no one really knows for sure.
The first possibility is kinda shocking.
Thanks for the great video,,The scene in Tora Tora Tora movie shows her taking over the plane and getting away.. Thanks for her whole story fascinating... Thanks!!!
Cheers
The smallest story, has so much depth to it !!!!!!!!!!
Another great story as part of
PEARL HARBOR HISTORY
I might look up more from this story…
The Story of the WaSP could make a good movie…
A lot of female actors available if someone would write a good Script…
I think it could FLY
( pardon the pun )
CHRIS 🇺🇸
NOW DO A DIORAMA CHRIS,WATCH LADIES COURAGEOUS 1944.TAKE CARE BROTHER
@
CHRIS 😃
I think it would make a great story. Even this Pearl Harbor story would be great. They are too busy making fictional rubbish like Fury and Inglorious Bastards.
Thank you for commemorating this sad day in our History. It seems all but forgotten by Americans these days. Never forget Pearl Harbor.
The 80th anniversary of D-Day was pretty low key this year. In Australia, Anzac day is nothing like it used to be.
@@War_And_Truth Yep, nothing like it was, now it's pride day and every other nonsensical group celebrated instead of people who sacrificed their lives to make the world better.
Margaret phelan Taylor was the WASP that I knew. She was so petite unassuming- she had more flying time than any of those swaggering fighter jocks🤣❤️
Totally different flying dude.
@@fluffy1931
Just letting her have a day in the sun.
In the UK, during the Battle of Britain, the Air Transport Auxiliary was formed - for men and women of the UK and Commonwealth and including Americans and European refugees. The first eight women were accepted into service on New Years Day 1940, and 168 women served in the 1245 strong force, that delivered all type, Spitfires to Lancaster bombers. Since they kept bumping into enemy aircraft, they eventually all flew with loaded guns. 174 pilots, 14 of them women were killed during the war.
Sounds like a great story, I'll have to look it up. Thanks.
See Maxsmodels podcast from 8 years ago titled "First to fall: Civilian aircraft at Pearl Harbor." Thank you, Mr. Max.
I'll take a listen, thanks.
You made a mistake. The Army air corp did NOT become the US Air Force until after WW2.
Yes I know. These errors are generally pointed out within 10 minutes of the video going up.
Actually, the US Army Air Corps became the US Army Air FORCE during WWII, and THEN became the separate US Air Force right after WWII.
@@CarlGerhardt1
*US Army Air Forces. Became USAF on the 1st of February (or was it March?) 1947.
@@Briselance USAF Sept. 18, 1947.
I had always assumed her depiction in Tora! Tora! Tora! was just something the film maker through in. I really appreciate your work to make her story known.
A new facet that I had not considered or been exposed to before. Should have been obvious. Well done.
Thank you.
In the movie Tora, Tora, Tora, there is a scene with as civilian biplane, a Stearman with a student pilot and instructor,, being attacked by Zeros.
In the Movie the Bi-plane was not attacked .
@@Crashed131963I think the Japanese knew not to attack American civilians.
Thats "Vi-two-Sick"...as its pronounced. Kimo Vitousek was My 4th Grade Buddy At Kahala Elementary in Honolulu 1972. His Dad was Martin. Martin Later Flew for Hawaiian Airlines for Many years...those Bi Plane lessons paid off as it were. Have no idea what Kimo Ended up doing later on in his life.
Thanks for the story and clarification of the name.
One of several mispronounced names. Either AI or poor research.
@@codycoyote6912 yeah, its the AI thing. I've been reading more and more on MANY other Websites about how people are complaining more and more about A.I. and how sick of it people are. I cant blame them
@@codycoyote6912 I only use AI text to speech as I am deaf. Some names can be a little difficult for it.
Wow, what a story. Thanks.
Never knew any of this. Thank you.
My Luscombe 8A was one of 5 Luscomes and 2 WACOs at the Ft Collins school where Cornelia was briefly an instructor. Can't prove it (yet) but I expect she flew my plane a few times while instructing there.
Nice history.
Excellent, Excellent video!
Thank you so much for this one.
REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR.
Thanks Kevin.
I used to read about WWI and WWII last 45 years and never heard nothing about that....
Every bit as much, that happened on that day.
I remember thinking as a kid the civ planes, especially the two ladies in the bipe, were made up. Tora Tora Tora came out when I was in elementary school and it was the most amazing movie of it's time. Pretty corny today, but that was Hollywood Magic of it's time.
My grandmother, who's 103 helped build a bunch of them planes up in Willow Run along with my Granddad. At the time, women were the stateside pilots to the coasts to head across the ponds. They were just as important as anyone in the cockpit and just as capable.
I'll never forget a Dash ride to Cleveland with 2 lady pilots, back when the doors were open. They sat down in a x-wind that had me shittin my pants. I had just gotten my private license so was chatting with them. I said, nope, that wasn't for me! they laughed "Weren't scared were ya?" laughing and I laughed nope, cause you wouldn't have tried it if you didn't know you could do it ;) ~ I trust ya! ~ I was good for a go-around but nope, they landed her crab and brought it around for a firm "gotcha" on the ground....Women are just mentally tougher man, when shit matters, if they cool, they cool. But being a girl dad does that to ya :)
Thanks for your great comment.
The US Air Force was established in 1947.
Roswell, New Mexico, USA 🇺🇸
Actually, what this story shows is that a Piper Club and similar aircraft does have a chance of surviving an attack by a Zero. Many of them did at Pearl Harbor. As was common in real air combat, most loses occur when a plane is caught from behind unaware, flying in a straight line, giving a straight forward firing solution to an airplane attacking from behind. If the pilot sees the Zeros ahead of time, or survives the initial attack, they could evade well enough, particularly with Zero pilots intent on their main mission. However, even determined attacks are not a sure thing since slower planes generally can turn sharper and one needs a somewhat lucky deflection shot to get a critical hit.Christopher Wray
One key is not to make a beeline to the nearest airport. Beelines provide easy firing solutions. Instead, concentrate on where the enemies are and turn toward them so they have to shoot from behind, not from directly behind or ahead.
Fort's Cadet is in a museum in Washington State now, I see it a few times a year. Heritage Flight museum at Skagit Regional airport.
What type of plane was Cornelia flying when she crashed?
Apparently it was a BT-13 Valiant. Single engine prop.
Thanks for the rest of the story on the short life of a brave American woman flierI, Cornelia
Fort. I subscribed. Thanks for the history lesson.
Thanks for the sub!
Great video
Thanks
First time I've ever heard about this. I'd always figured there had to have been some civilian aircraft during the attack, given the segment with the lady instructor and the PT-17, but that was all I'd ever seen. It's not mentioned in any of the books I've read on the attack.
A striking woman in all ways
Female Luftwaffe ferry pilots were given armed aircraft for delivery. So we're Soviet women. The WAAF were not.
The picture with C in a flight jacket has the Northrop logo on it
Important account. So much for the so called honour of Japanese military. Massively outnumbered and unarmed civilian training aircraft. How brave of the enemy. So sad Miss Fort survived to then lose her life later. Although later in the video you seem to say she was shot down in a cadet? She was a vibrant,brave lady. She will not be forgotten.
I wish they would show more about civilians who stepped up and pulled the weight in every field to replace boys and men drafted or volunteered for military service...I think every school needs to show WW2 history not just battles but also individuals in all services even the ones who served as nurses,medics ext...maybe we can get the people to wake up to all the attacks on our Consituition and what our rights under it.....instead of the sunshine patriots who only are Americans when things are going their way.
was she not killed in the wasps later on.
Cornelia Fort? You will have to be a little more specific.
Bi planes were still in use in New Guinea early in the war.
11:16 M. F. Poston - is he at all related to Trevor Jacobs?
You should have said, "because of his aversion to risk," instead of "despite."
Apologies
How about a story om the USS Ward?
Amazing!It seems that in War, there are no noncomatants
I always wondered how things would have turned out if US women were allowed to be in Aviation combat roles. Considering how badly pilots were needed.
And the Russians had their Night witches.
Well, you can bet a lot of people here today wouldn't be had that happened.
GREAT VIDEO,WATCH THE MOVIE"LADIES COURAGEOUS' 1944,IT COVER THE BIRTH OF WAC IN WW2
Thanks for the suggestion.
YOU MIGHT LOOK INTO THE NURSES AT BATAAN AND CORREGIDOR.@@War_And_Truth
Very interesting.
Cheers
Thanks for the interesting history of this fascinating lady- but the generic WWII background narration is really not necessary..
You need context for those who don't know anything about WW2.
Uhm tough one - was her father right in the end?
He obviously had a premonition. Just for the wrong child.
Pretty lady , with guts
BRAVE AMERICAN LADY..
What a lady!!!!
No way that bullets would make "fist-sized holes" in an Airknocker, they just go right through the fabric.
Zeros had 20mm cannon.
This has been AI narrated ,, he can’t pronounce half the words correctly.. like “ Waikiki” “wasp” etc
Did AI write this script? It sure is boring like an AI script
No I write all of my scripts but use AI narration because I am deaf.
Your A.I. pronunciation is garbage.