Andrew Tangles w/ TikToker Trumpeting Secularism

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Andrew Wilson from The Crucible takes on a TikTok secularist/anti-Christian who eventually flips out and rants after muting Andrew.
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Комментарии • 276

  • @AlexTamayo.
    @AlexTamayo. 4 месяца назад +214

    Gay guy with unsurprising opinion...

    • @AndrewOlsteenCultible
      @AndrewOlsteenCultible 4 месяца назад +1

      Addict guy with unsurprising rules for thee

    • @sweetjames283
      @sweetjames283 4 месяца назад +14

      Looks like your on your own there bud. Your comment got zero likes. Just pointing that out in case you count count good💪💪💪

    • @a-atheist
      @a-atheist 4 месяца назад +11

      @@sweetjames283 Your comment aged well.

    • @sweetjames283
      @sweetjames283 4 месяца назад +2

      @@a-atheist thank you kind sir. Cheers💪💪💪

    • @Larry_Hegs
      @Larry_Hegs 4 месяца назад +2

      @@sweetjames283 wah wah! Doof.

  • @jasonspray6976
    @jasonspray6976 4 месяца назад +138

    Government closed churches during covid, and arrested some, while on the same hand kept liquor stores and strip clubs opened.

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc 4 месяца назад +2

      Mhh, is like someone actually help the economy

    • @Sentinel82
      @Sentinel82 4 месяца назад

      Basically can't have the "right-wingers" congregating in one spot. So obvious.

    • @UniqueBreakfastTaco
      @UniqueBreakfastTaco 4 месяца назад

      @@SubZero-hs9xc degen, i see.

    • @eggnog52
      @eggnog52 4 месяца назад +7

      Gotta keep the masses sedated otherwise the slaves might revolt.

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc 4 месяца назад

      @@eggnog52 i dont think i will revolt with less christianity

  • @BrokTheLoneWolf
    @BrokTheLoneWolf 4 месяца назад +154

    This guy sounds insanely homosexual

    • @TheManOfReason.
      @TheManOfReason. 4 месяца назад +10

      Haha, unexpected comment. Hurt my sides laughing.

    • @ShiniGuraiJoker
      @ShiniGuraiJoker 4 месяца назад +1

      Who cares?

    • @crownwire7468
      @crownwire7468 4 месяца назад +13

      A bit “light in the loafers” as they say.

    • @UniqueBreakfastTaco
      @UniqueBreakfastTaco 4 месяца назад +13

      something about getting ones vocal chords blasted regularly

    • @xamunchkin
      @xamunchkin 4 месяца назад +11

      @@ShiniGuraiJoker You’re fine with effeminate men becoming the meta? Throwing out their sexual preference on this one for the sake of the question

  • @Gods-bad-boy
    @Gods-bad-boy 4 месяца назад +92

    This guy isnt keeping up. He doenst even understand Andrews arguments. He may not agree with andrew but hes not smart enough to grasp the concepts.

    • @TeleologicalConsistency
      @TeleologicalConsistency 4 месяца назад +12

      It's not that he doesn't understand. He's mad that he can't refute Andrew's arguments.

    • @danielbeckman6742
      @danielbeckman6742 4 месяца назад +9

      He doesn't even know some of the words. Andrew had to define terms for him.

    • @PoetofHateSpeech
      @PoetofHateSpeech 4 месяца назад

      Tbh, Andrew runs away from mine, and the far right questions.

    • @PoetofHateSpeech
      @PoetofHateSpeech 4 месяца назад

      @TeleologicalConsistency Andrew also runs away from questions. Let's be honest

    • @charlessynowiec3876
      @charlessynowiec3876 4 месяца назад +7

      @@PoetofHateSpeechu said nothing twice

  • @matchesmalone8279
    @matchesmalone8279 4 месяца назад +43

    This guy was so bad it’s embarrassing. Andrew destroyed him.

  • @carloscruz1285
    @carloscruz1285 4 месяца назад +47

    I cant stand people like this. They dont know what arguing in bad faith is. They arent arguing to prove a point because they dont even know their point. They get mad, strawman, and then because theyre strawmaning they then tell YOU that youre strawmaning. If this is YOU, then you dont know how to debate.
    Andrew, take this W.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas 4 месяца назад +3

      Def W

    • @Fedetk
      @Fedetk 3 месяца назад +2

      It's stressful to watch. Most people use the terms "strawman" and "ad hominem" in situations they don't even apply. They just use them because they heard the words. And when you use something as simple as reductio ad absurdum, like Andrew did in this video, they're like "That makes no sense" (just like the other guy said). And I'm like "YES! It makes no sense, and that's YOUR argument."
      You can't argue with people like that.

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 2 месяца назад

      @@Fedetk yeah

    • @stevendouglas3781
      @stevendouglas3781 10 дней назад

      Of course they know what it is, that’s why they’re doing it.

  • @agreen31
    @agreen31 4 месяца назад +59

    "Please get new material"
    Someone doesn't understand Christianity it seems 😂😂

    • @franzosisch5965
      @franzosisch5965 4 месяца назад +5

      Apparently we need to get more material even though he doesn't know even the basic arguments 🤣

  • @familycollected3774
    @familycollected3774 2 месяца назад +6

    The crucible’s biggest mistake is assuming this guy has the IQ for this conversation

  • @johnjames5842
    @johnjames5842 4 месяца назад +34

    We ARE a Christian nation, who the do you think found, conquered , built , and maintained this country? Who do you think wrote the laws , shaped the customs and traditions & morallity? Christians did all that

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc 4 месяца назад +1

      Mhh, then who started the slave trade?

    • @thomasdwyer7790
      @thomasdwyer7790 4 месяца назад +11

      ​@@SubZero-hs9xc muslims in the 8th century

    • @DoctorTaco20
      @DoctorTaco20 4 месяца назад +3

      @@SubZero-hs9xcwho ended slavery in the US?

    • @intello8953
      @intello8953 4 месяца назад +3

      @@thomasdwyer7790are you saying Muslims started the slave trade? Did you just forget what the Romans did 🤦🏾‍♂️😂. I swear conservative right wing Christians have amnesia of history

    • @skaarfaze689
      @skaarfaze689 4 месяца назад

      The founders, specifically, didn't want to establish a specific religion. They wanted freedom to do whatever.

  • @Zone47.
    @Zone47. 4 месяца назад +25

    I really like “I’m almost done” as a way to get the other person to shut up

  • @kylelarson7840
    @kylelarson7840 4 месяца назад +27

    So which deviancy is this guy trying to avoid feeling guilty over?

    • @StrangersIteDomum
      @StrangersIteDomum 4 месяца назад +1

      Being the computer guy from grandmas boy. Or Napoleon dynamite. Gosh! You won't let me finish!

    • @lilblock3564
      @lilblock3564 4 месяца назад +6

      Homosexuality

  • @Persona-Non-Grata555
    @Persona-Non-Grata555 3 месяца назад +8

    Secularists respect religious rights? lol

  • @eggnog52
    @eggnog52 4 месяца назад +9

    You know Andrew's won when they start muting him.

  • @MyNegaJay
    @MyNegaJay 4 месяца назад +7

    Just recently found out about Andrew. It's so nice to see someone that gives the impression of being common sense incarnate. People like this are good for everyone in society. The guy he's debating on the other hand..... Credit to Andrew too for debating this pigeon.

  • @boogaloobaloo
    @boogaloobaloo 2 месяца назад +3

    What an interesting inflection in that man's voice... I can't imagine why he'd be so staunchly against Christ...

  • @Petey17564
    @Petey17564 4 месяца назад +9

    Why do they all sound the same with there lisp

    • @themastter8
      @themastter8 4 месяца назад

      That’s what happens when you swallow too many hot dogs.

  • @TeleologicalConsistency
    @TeleologicalConsistency 4 месяца назад +19

    Andrew is the prime Mike Tyson of blood sport debaters.

    • @Bren49762
      @Bren49762 4 месяца назад

      Too bad Andrew doesn't stand by what he preaches

    • @MrHorsesongs05
      @MrHorsesongs05 4 месяца назад

      ​@Bren49762 cope

    • @MrHorsesongs05
      @MrHorsesongs05 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Bren49762cope

    • @Mr-Host
      @Mr-Host 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Bren49762 in what way?

  • @DemetrioSahaquiel
    @DemetrioSahaquiel 4 месяца назад +3

    Andrew, where did you learn how to debate like that? I think everyone should be able to engage in debates to be part of a functioning democracy. Teach us please.

  • @chrisbartolini1508
    @chrisbartolini1508 3 месяца назад +3

    Is there anything but worthless narcissists on TikTok?

  • @SoloBroBro
    @SoloBroBro 4 месяца назад +6

    Why would anyone want to spend their life a secularist and argue over settled truth?

    • @awsambdaman
      @awsambdaman 2 месяца назад

      Taking the easy way out. Easy to engage in degeneracy if you ignore your moral intuitions

  • @BurntOutFiend
    @BurntOutFiend 4 месяца назад +9

    Hello local atheist here, my dad sent me to a Christian School growing up from elementary to Middle School after 8th grade I told my dad that I was an atheist and he was completely fine with it after i told him he sent me to a normal school after that. So going off of my experience alone I would say Christians are far more tolerable when it comes to other people's religions or beliefs (or lack of).

    • @RepentTherefore
      @RepentTherefore 3 месяца назад

      You should realize the stupidity of atheism and come back to God.

    • @dustinmark6808
      @dustinmark6808 3 месяца назад

      Ya he was wrong .... kids aren't allowed to vote for a reason to be aparent you must do things for your child for there best interest not to be the bud

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 2 месяца назад

      true. Generally i will do both. I want them to have choice but i also know i should raise htem well by the bible.
      Also i live in a country that is almost half muslim and half christian. The number of times ive heard a muslim k*illing someone over religion and christian doing the same is 10 to 0 respectively. and the government is mainly muslim right now.

    • @christopherkucia1071
      @christopherkucia1071 2 месяца назад +1

      Christians LITERALLY wrote freedom of religion into law…. I’m agnostic, and I will defend orthodox Christianity WITH MY OWN LIFE. I can’t have faith in god, something I can’t totally prove just yet, but I’ve read all the major religious scripture front to back…. Torah, Quaran, the MANY sects bibles, Bhudism, Hinduism…. Literally most all religions and many of their sects and heresies….
      I find universal truth ACROSS the scripture CONSTANTLY….
      There are just things about religion, and orthodox Christianity specifically that I CANNOT REFUTE.
      So what they are metaphorical stories. Maybe they’re not? But so what…. It speaks the truth plain and simple. The ways of life most religions (Christianity at the top) prescribe to and enforce is just RIGHT. It’s BEST even.
      But I’m not religious either. I can still accept total and universal truth though….

    • @dustinmark6808
      @dustinmark6808 2 месяца назад

      @christopherkucia1071 here's something for you time isn't the hero atheists claim it to be with bio genesis ... the pre biotic chemicals required some only last for minutes .... before they need to be used ... life through random chance is statistically impossible

  • @bloodluster2015
    @bloodluster2015 2 месяца назад +2

    How come every single time you say the words, "calm down" in any sense, you get kicked from the steam? Seems like they have a temper, realize they've lost the debate and SERIOUSLY need to "calm down." 😅😂😂

  • @messaroundhandleit
    @messaroundhandleit 3 месяца назад +2

    This guy just wanted someone to listen and accept anything they said as truth. Andrew wasted this clown, lol.

  • @joshp2542
    @joshp2542 4 месяца назад +4

    Please clip the one from last night when after the debate on lgbt the guy was like, "bro I'm not crying, I'm just upset!" It was so funny.

  • @seznibrien8525
    @seznibrien8525 4 месяца назад +1

    The moment Andrew gives a great throwback to his logic, the dude shuts him down😂😂😂😂

  • @atomenorse
    @atomenorse 4 месяца назад +1

    Once they start huffing and puffing, Andrew has their emotions and always destroys them. 😂

  • @MrHorsesongs05
    @MrHorsesongs05 4 месяца назад +4

    Weak wristed lispy

  • @ASSASSIN_MW3_420
    @ASSASSIN_MW3_420 4 месяца назад +5

    This guy sounds like Dane cook 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @DeniseWilcox-kp1dl
    @DeniseWilcox-kp1dl Месяц назад +1

    I love it so much when Andrew laughs!!! 😎

  • @StatusVolt-hi3ft
    @StatusVolt-hi3ft 4 месяца назад +2

    A debate turned into a class 😂😂😂

  • @austinthompson9663
    @austinthompson9663 2 месяца назад +1

    Of like MONEYY?!? LMAOO

  • @LukeSchmidt89
    @LukeSchmidt89 4 месяца назад +1

    Ticktock gives these people a platform at which point they do not deserve it 😂

  • @Kylesmith-d7v
    @Kylesmith-d7v 4 месяца назад +5

    It's hard to argue with an intelligent person. It's impossible to argue with a stupid person

  • @TerrySilverhand
    @TerrySilverhand 4 месяца назад +2

    Everything Andrew has to explain a premise or idea over 4 times I just think of the Kevin Hart clip "she wasn't ready!"

  • @rustinpeace9303
    @rustinpeace9303 4 месяца назад +3

    Ad populum blew his mind

  • @jaredcarpenter9973
    @jaredcarpenter9973 2 месяца назад

    "can you repeat that question?"......."I'm muting you because you're repeating your question."

  • @Harpazo2030
    @Harpazo2030 4 месяца назад +2

    When u get caught out, ur so called world view is shown to be a fraud , u start getting angry swearing , accusing the other of what u are doing , u start name calling like a child. The dude is just angry with God, who’s does not exist, in his world view. Embarrassing

  • @cromBumny
    @cromBumny Месяц назад

    Secularists seek to remove religion from the public and legal squares. They so respevtvit, they qant ti remove it.

  • @metaljacket8128
    @metaljacket8128 2 месяца назад +1

    Good on Andrew!

  • @NoMoCH0M0
    @NoMoCH0M0 3 месяца назад +1

    Logic is the BEST way

  • @isaactelesco2141
    @isaactelesco2141 3 месяца назад +1

    This dude Does not understand anything he's arguing for.
    Ethics, seperate from an objective standard of morals, is the study of when and How to cross moral lines in the Best way according to the harm principle.
    And even then. It isnt constrained by the harm principle anymore unlike its origin.

  • @stevendouglas3781
    @stevendouglas3781 10 дней назад

    Imagine how pathological you have to bet to see “In God We Trust” on the dollar and feel negative emotion.

  • @PatI-zg9gm
    @PatI-zg9gm 22 дня назад

    The government “loves” secularism. It is far easier to control, and manipulate, those that have no grounded ethics. This “floating” morality, this “my own will be done” mentality just promotes materialism and hedonism.

  • @RealCoachMustafa
    @RealCoachMustafa 3 месяца назад

    I'm Muslim and I would rather have Christian ethics than secular ethics. This guy bringing up Muslims doesn't back his point because secular ethics opposes Abrahamic ethics.

  • @getdowndemon1097
    @getdowndemon1097 4 месяца назад +1

    The feminism dripping off this tik tok invasion guy is unreal.

  • @CoolguyinAngola
    @CoolguyinAngola 3 месяца назад +2

    He sounds gay I don't know why...

  • @mikhailmcrae5924
    @mikhailmcrae5924 4 месяца назад

    Dude sounds like he about to kill 300 Spartans.

  • @marcfilms999
    @marcfilms999 Месяц назад

    Happiness is subjective and it depends of the country and culture of what they define as happy. For me, as long as a economy is good, plenty of jobs, affordable housing, families everywhere and people with shared values, that is what I'd measure happiness with. Not all feel good things should be measured in happiness though because people may find terrible things and crimes to make them happy so there should be a strict moral compass of what defines happiness as Andrew has stated. If we go purely off the subjective basis of happiness not enforced by moral ethics, then the world would be a more evil place.

  • @uniquelymystical9705
    @uniquelymystical9705 4 месяца назад

    It’s really easy to determine who actually understands their convictions and who doesn’t, just by the way they disclose it - Its hardly a debate of beliefs, if only one person knows what they are talking about

  • @joshflowers1834
    @joshflowers1834 11 дней назад

    The challenger was the one who bought up money. The fuck.

  • @rafeeqbey2690
    @rafeeqbey2690 4 месяца назад

    This is the personification of "baiting" 🤣

  • @WilliamEllison
    @WilliamEllison 4 месяца назад

    This individual argues with the logic and reasoning of a 12-year-old. As a coach for 12U sports, I see similarities between his arguments and those of some of my more outspoken players. I say this sincerely, without intending any disrespect. Many secular individuals seem to experience little growth or maturity. Without the influence of Christian ethics and worldview prevalent in the USA, it’s possible they might have faced even greater difficulties, such as extinction.

  • @Krim_Z
    @Krim_Z 3 месяца назад

    This guys issue is he cant articulate his morals because he doesnt have a central moral framework of the bible. His epistemology is "because it feels right". As it is subjective, it doesnt exist outside his mind.

  • @Xyz98900
    @Xyz98900 4 месяца назад +4

    Tik Tok is not ready for you, Andrew. Tik Tok is for those who cannot debate.

  • @astheworldburns
    @astheworldburns 2 дня назад

    Limp wrist energy

  • @_GandalfTheGrey_
    @_GandalfTheGrey_ 4 месяца назад

    “Go for ittttt 🙄”
    - Tiktoker

  • @chadbrambers8346
    @chadbrambers8346 4 месяца назад

    Don’t you love how much they believe they are smart and he is dumb? 😂

  • @tkim72003
    @tkim72003 2 месяца назад

    i want to see Andrew debate Kyle Kulinski

  • @HereIGooooo
    @HereIGooooo 4 месяца назад +1

    You can always tell who was raised by a single mom….Andrew is doing god’s work with this beta male.

    • @chrissedaka8141
      @chrissedaka8141 Месяц назад

      It's not a 'raised by a single mom' thing; it's a 'never leaving the secular echo-chamber'' thing.

  • @justanotherlikeyou
    @justanotherlikeyou 2 месяца назад

    That guy had some serious feminine energy

  • @noneofyourbusiness792
    @noneofyourbusiness792 4 месяца назад

    This guy doesn’t understand that when you contradict your own position the foundation of the argument falls apart… once the contradiction has been exposed smart people in the audience understand that the worldview of where the contradicting factor resides in is flawed… like a house of cards falling down it falls falls falls

  • @ElMeroPrincipeX
    @ElMeroPrincipeX 3 месяца назад +1

    First demonstrate that your God exists. No one in the history of mankind has ever demonstrated that any God exists. Christianity alone has thousands of denominations that don’t even agree and that’s just one religion and imagine all of the theists that are not part of a religion that also have their own beliefs. They also contradict every other single one. so someone has to demonstrate that exist in the first place and good luck with that😂

  • @DoctorLazertron
    @DoctorLazertron Месяц назад

    How dare you legislate anything from scriptire! It's all supposed to be completely arbitrary!

  • @intotheunknown8774
    @intotheunknown8774 4 месяца назад

    lol dude sure has a lot to say once he can’t be argued with.

  • @brianchristopher8843
    @brianchristopher8843 4 месяца назад +1

    So emotional

  • @thedarkside314
    @thedarkside314 3 месяца назад

    Why does the thumbnail have Andrew Wilson posed like a fuckin Chad on it?

  • @blovsi
    @blovsi 4 месяца назад +1

    Andrew it's had to talk to a woman.

  • @colehansen188
    @colehansen188 4 дня назад

    Real bundle of sticks this one

  • @christressler3857
    @christressler3857 4 месяца назад

    Where are these full debates?!?!

  • @spykatt
    @spykatt 4 месяца назад

    What a wispy voice that guy has.

  • @TheTruthinAction
    @TheTruthinAction 4 месяца назад

    Go get a real job. This guy would be of no value in tribal times.

  • @skaarfaze689
    @skaarfaze689 4 месяца назад

    Damn Andrew is terrible at debate

  • @russellbalko2006
    @russellbalko2006 3 месяца назад

    I get that you love the debate I think you're great at it but why do you keep going on these liberals pages bro? I get it that's where the controversy is a bunch of idiots with opinions that don't know how to back them up but when you go on there you're almost like giving them power and it kind of pisses me off. Because they keep muting you! It's like giving a kid the power to silence you and then soon as they start to lose or don't want to hear it they unplug the game while they're losing That's what they're doing with the mute button. I don't know if there's like chat rooms where you can start them and invite them to come on your page or at least so you can have a fair debate since they won't let you speak freely.

  • @rafeeqturner1458
    @rafeeqturner1458 4 месяца назад

    Why does Andrew go after light weights

    • @duncanmugambi6213
      @duncanmugambi6213 4 месяца назад +4

      People ask to debate him and he engages everyone. Good for growth imo

    • @6thandHarrison
      @6thandHarrison 4 месяца назад +1

      He hasn’t been able to hang with the heavy weights. Too many contradictions in his philosophy

    • @rafeeqturner1458
      @rafeeqturner1458 4 месяца назад

      the one's that seek him out, are at beginner level lol

  • @SubZero-hs9xc
    @SubZero-hs9xc 4 месяца назад +2

    Religion and state are different

    • @DrooledOn
      @DrooledOn 4 месяца назад +6

      Nothing in the constitution says that laws cannot be influenced by religion. It just says Congress cannot establish a national religion. And you cannot stop anyone from exercising a religion

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc 4 месяца назад

      @@DrooledOn yeah but shoudnt

    • @a-atheist
      @a-atheist 4 месяца назад

      @@SubZero-hs9xc Thats awesome, since the supreme court ruled atheism a religion. So according to U.S. standard, what you're asking for is IMPOSSIBLE. LOL. You must be an atheist. You comment like one. Asking for impossible things. Lol.

    • @mattstiglic
      @mattstiglic 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@SubZero-hs9xcwhy not?

    • @mattstiglic
      @mattstiglic 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@SubZero-hs9xcyou're making an ought claim, back it up

  • @pmaitrasm
    @pmaitrasm 4 месяца назад +4

    Andrew Wilson is wrong. Ethics and morality has nothing to do with religion. Americans have the ethics of respecting others religions not because they Christians, but because they are ROMANS, and these ethics are derived from Roman Polytheism. Andrew Wilson should study the causes behind the Crusades. Monotheism is a political ambition, polytheism is a cold hard reality.

    • @AlexTamayo.
      @AlexTamayo. 4 месяца назад +38

      Absolute nonsense.

    • @pmaitrasm
      @pmaitrasm 4 месяца назад +2

      @@AlexTamayo., So you disagree. Cool. That's the spirit of the First Amendment. 👍

    • @seznibrien8525
      @seznibrien8525 4 месяца назад +17

      You have a right to be wrong

    • @pmaitrasm
      @pmaitrasm 4 месяца назад +1

      @@seznibrien8525, So do you, and you exercised that right just now.

    • @angelbrother1238
      @angelbrother1238 4 месяца назад

      Dude do you believe in the many worlds theory of quantum physics . I think you have just proven it as a fact because what you said is utter nonsense in this reality 😂😂😂😂.
      Have you studied the writings of the early Christian’s like the disciples of the apostles ???? There is absolutely nothing polytheistic about them .
      In fact nothing that resembled polytheism had come up until Arianism which taught henotheism which means that Jesus was a created lesser God ( which is what the jehovas witnesses teach today ), but there was nothing in early Christian history that taught polytheism .
      As I said which universe do you come from because it sure ain’t ours 😂😂 😂😂😂😂

  • @iangutoskie2315
    @iangutoskie2315 3 месяца назад +1

    I feel bad for this fruit loop. No way he’s smart enough to wake up…

  • @The_Cyber_Police
    @The_Cyber_Police 4 месяца назад

    Should be titled Andrew debates gay Dane Cook.