Andrew Tangles w/ TikToker Trumpeting Secularism
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Andrew Wilson from The Crucible takes on a TikTok secularist/anti-Christian who eventually flips out and rants after muting Andrew.
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Gay guy with unsurprising opinion...
Addict guy with unsurprising rules for thee
Looks like your on your own there bud. Your comment got zero likes. Just pointing that out in case you count count good💪💪💪
@@sweetjames283 Your comment aged well.
@@a-atheist thank you kind sir. Cheers💪💪💪
@@sweetjames283 wah wah! Doof.
Government closed churches during covid, and arrested some, while on the same hand kept liquor stores and strip clubs opened.
Mhh, is like someone actually help the economy
Basically can't have the "right-wingers" congregating in one spot. So obvious.
@@SubZero-hs9xc degen, i see.
Gotta keep the masses sedated otherwise the slaves might revolt.
@@eggnog52 i dont think i will revolt with less christianity
This guy sounds insanely homosexual
Haha, unexpected comment. Hurt my sides laughing.
Who cares?
A bit “light in the loafers” as they say.
something about getting ones vocal chords blasted regularly
@@ShiniGuraiJoker You’re fine with effeminate men becoming the meta? Throwing out their sexual preference on this one for the sake of the question
The crucible’s biggest mistake is assuming this guy has the IQ for this conversation
This guy isnt keeping up. He doenst even understand Andrews arguments. He may not agree with andrew but hes not smart enough to grasp the concepts.
It's not that he doesn't understand. He's mad that he can't refute Andrew's arguments.
He doesn't even know some of the words. Andrew had to define terms for him.
Tbh, Andrew runs away from mine, and the far right questions.
@TeleologicalConsistency Andrew also runs away from questions. Let's be honest
@@GLOW_IN_THE_DARK_CIA_NIBBASu said nothing twice
"Please get new material"
Someone doesn't understand Christianity it seems 😂😂
Apparently we need to get more material even though he doesn't know even the basic arguments 🤣
Even Christians that go to church don't understand, and talk out their butt's. That's the problem. Most humans know squat, yet talk like anyone should listen to their oughts.
I really like “I’m almost done” as a way to get the other person to shut up
I cant stand people like this. They dont know what arguing in bad faith is. They arent arguing to prove a point because they dont even know their point. They get mad, strawman, and then because theyre strawmaning they then tell YOU that youre strawmaning. If this is YOU, then you dont know how to debate.
Andrew, take this W.
Def W
It's stressful to watch. Most people use the terms "strawman" and "ad hominem" in situations they don't even apply. They just use them because they heard the words. And when you use something as simple as reductio ad absurdum, like Andrew did in this video, they're like "That makes no sense" (just like the other guy said). And I'm like "YES! It makes no sense, and that's YOUR argument."
You can't argue with people like that.
@@Fedetk yeah
Of course they know what it is, that’s why they’re doing it.
What an interesting inflection in that man's voice... I can't imagine why he'd be so staunchly against Christ...
We ARE a Christian nation, who the do you think found, conquered , built , and maintained this country? Who do you think wrote the laws , shaped the customs and traditions & morallity? Christians did all that
Mhh, then who started the slave trade?
@@SubZero-hs9xc muslims in the 8th century
@@SubZero-hs9xcwho ended slavery in the US?
@@thomasdwyer7790are you saying Muslims started the slave trade? Did you just forget what the Romans did 🤦🏾♂️😂. I swear conservative right wing Christians have amnesia of history
The founders, specifically, didn't want to establish a specific religion. They wanted freedom to do whatever.
This guy was so bad it’s embarrassing. Andrew destroyed him.
Secularists respect religious rights? lol
So which deviancy is this guy trying to avoid feeling guilty over?
Being the computer guy from grandmas boy. Or Napoleon dynamite. Gosh! You won't let me finish!
Homosexuality
Just recently found out about Andrew. It's so nice to see someone that gives the impression of being common sense incarnate. People like this are good for everyone in society. The guy he's debating on the other hand..... Credit to Andrew too for debating this pigeon.
Limp wrist energy
Is there anything but worthless narcissists on TikTok?
You know Andrew's won when they start muting him.
Please clip the one from last night when after the debate on lgbt the guy was like, "bro I'm not crying, I'm just upset!" It was so funny.
Andrew, where did you learn how to debate like that? I think everyone should be able to engage in debates to be part of a functioning democracy. Teach us please.
When you interrupt their feeling while debating it morph into kick-out mode. So funny
Once they start huffing and puffing, Andrew has their emotions and always destroys them. 😂
Why do they all sound the same with there lisp
That’s what happens when you swallow too many hot dogs.
Andrew is the prime Mike Tyson of blood sport debaters.
Too bad Andrew doesn't stand by what he preaches
@Bren49762 cope
@@Bren49762cope
@@Bren49762 in what way?
The moment Andrew gives a great throwback to his logic, the dude shuts him down😂😂😂😂
I love it so much when Andrew laughs!!! 😎
Why would anyone want to spend their life a secularist and argue over settled truth?
Taking the easy way out. Easy to engage in degeneracy if you ignore your moral intuitions
Good on Andrew!
This guy just wanted someone to listen and accept anything they said as truth. Andrew wasted this clown, lol.
How come every single time you say the words, "calm down" in any sense, you get kicked from the steam? Seems like they have a temper, realize they've lost the debate and SERIOUSLY need to "calm down." 😅😂😂
A debate turned into a class 😂😂😂
Andrew recognized that this guy was not intellectually on his level and tried his best to have a meaningful and respectful conversation.
Everything Andrew has to explain a premise or idea over 4 times I just think of the Kevin Hart clip "she wasn't ready!"
These Tiktok homosexuals always mute people or scream when they lose an argument😂
Of like MONEYY?!? LMAOO
"can you repeat that question?"......."I'm muting you because you're repeating your question."
First demonstrate that your God exists. No one in the history of mankind has ever demonstrated that any God exists. Christianity alone has thousands of denominations that don’t even agree and that’s just one religion and imagine all of the theists that are not part of a religion that also have their own beliefs. They also contradict every other single one. so someone has to demonstrate that exist in the first place and good luck with that😂
It’s ALWAYS bad when the only one in a debate is Andrew; the muppet is just arguing and pontificating!! This is NO different than listening to the feminist women he normally talks with as they yell, scream and cry - this guy is behaving like a petulant toddler! 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Ticktock gives these people a platform at which point they do not deserve it 😂
Hello local atheist here, my dad sent me to a Christian School growing up from elementary to Middle School after 8th grade I told my dad that I was an atheist and he was completely fine with it after i told him he sent me to a normal school after that. So going off of my experience alone I would say Christians are far more tolerable when it comes to other people's religions or beliefs (or lack of).
You should realize the stupidity of atheism and come back to God.
Ya he was wrong .... kids aren't allowed to vote for a reason to be aparent you must do things for your child for there best interest not to be the bud
true. Generally i will do both. I want them to have choice but i also know i should raise htem well by the bible.
Also i live in a country that is almost half muslim and half christian. The number of times ive heard a muslim k*illing someone over religion and christian doing the same is 10 to 0 respectively. and the government is mainly muslim right now.
Christians LITERALLY wrote freedom of religion into law…. I’m agnostic, and I will defend orthodox Christianity WITH MY OWN LIFE. I can’t have faith in god, something I can’t totally prove just yet, but I’ve read all the major religious scripture front to back…. Torah, Quaran, the MANY sects bibles, Bhudism, Hinduism…. Literally most all religions and many of their sects and heresies….
I find universal truth ACROSS the scripture CONSTANTLY….
There are just things about religion, and orthodox Christianity specifically that I CANNOT REFUTE.
So what they are metaphorical stories. Maybe they’re not? But so what…. It speaks the truth plain and simple. The ways of life most religions (Christianity at the top) prescribe to and enforce is just RIGHT. It’s BEST even.
But I’m not religious either. I can still accept total and universal truth though….
@christopherkucia1071 here's something for you time isn't the hero atheists claim it to be with bio genesis ... the pre biotic chemicals required some only last for minutes .... before they need to be used ... life through random chance is statistically impossible
This dude Does not understand anything he's arguing for.
Ethics, seperate from an objective standard of morals, is the study of when and How to cross moral lines in the Best way according to the harm principle.
And even then. It isnt constrained by the harm principle anymore unlike its origin.
This guy sounds like Dane cook 😂😂😂😂😂
Ad populum blew his mind
Secularists seek to remove religion from the public and legal squares. They so respevtvit, they qant ti remove it.
I'm Muslim and I would rather have Christian ethics than secular ethics. This guy bringing up Muslims doesn't back his point because secular ethics opposes Abrahamic ethics.
It’s really easy to determine who actually understands their convictions and who doesn’t, just by the way they disclose it - Its hardly a debate of beliefs, if only one person knows what they are talking about
When u get caught out, ur so called world view is shown to be a fraud , u start getting angry swearing , accusing the other of what u are doing , u start name calling like a child. The dude is just angry with God, who’s does not exist, in his world view. Embarrassing
Guy is really so offended by "In God we trust" on the dollar? Oh boy.
There is no such thing as a nonreligious perspective on government and laws. Laws themselves are tutors to what is moral and what is moral is a religious question.
Happiness is subjective and it depends of the country and culture of what they define as happy. For me, as long as a economy is good, plenty of jobs, affordable housing, families everywhere and people with shared values, that is what I'd measure happiness with. Not all feel good things should be measured in happiness though because people may find terrible things and crimes to make them happy so there should be a strict moral compass of what defines happiness as Andrew has stated. If we go purely off the subjective basis of happiness not enforced by moral ethics, then the world would be a more evil place.
Weak wristed lispy
This is the personification of "baiting" 🤣
Dude sounds like he about to kill 300 Spartans.
He sounds gay I don't know why...
“Go for ittttt 🙄”
- Tiktoker
youtube banned me from commenting for 24 hrs on another account for supposedly just POTENTIALLY violating their community guidelines. no evidence to back up their claim-not even a screenshot or quote to show what was being reference to make the claim. just the claim itself alongside preventing me from posting comments. can someone debate someone from youtube about why that sort of stuff happens? should it be allowed? should youtube be legally or morally allowed to take actions such as that?
The challenger was the one who bought up money. The fuck.
This individual argues with the logic and reasoning of a 12-year-old. As a coach for 12U sports, I see similarities between his arguments and those of some of my more outspoken players. I say this sincerely, without intending any disrespect. Many secular individuals seem to experience little growth or maturity. Without the influence of Christian ethics and worldview prevalent in the USA, it’s possible they might have faced even greater difficulties, such as extinction.
Don’t you love how much they believe they are smart and he is dumb? 😂
The feminism dripping off this tik tok invasion guy is unreal.
I feel bad for this fruit loop. No way he’s smart enough to wake up…
Where are these full debates?!?!
This guys issue is he cant articulate his morals because he doesnt have a central moral framework of the bible. His epistemology is "because it feels right". As it is subjective, it doesnt exist outside his mind.
This guy doesn’t understand that when you contradict your own position the foundation of the argument falls apart… once the contradiction has been exposed smart people in the audience understand that the worldview of where the contradicting factor resides in is flawed… like a house of cards falling down it falls falls falls
lol dude sure has a lot to say once he can’t be argued with.
i want to see Andrew debate Kyle Kulinski
You can always tell who was raised by a single mom….Andrew is doing god’s work with this beta male.
It's not a 'raised by a single mom' thing; it's a 'never leaving the secular echo-chamber'' thing.
I love how this guy wants to talk about very mundane settled nonsense like when people should be able to vote or be issued a drivers license. That’s just political busy work. Nobody cares about those things because the arbitrary point has been agreed upon already. This is just the focus of people who have no intellect or stomach to be doing the real work of governance
Bro got rainbow voice phenotype
Imagine how pathological you have to bet to see “In God We Trust” on the dollar and feel negative emotion.
Why would those who do not believe in "God" feel positive emotion?
@@grantco2 they shouldn’t feel any emotion. They should stoically and lucidly understand the worldview of the people who founded the country and expect that to reflect on things like currency.
@@stevendouglas3781 "In God we Trust" was added in the 1950's and has nothing to do with the people who founded the country. Do any documents from the founding of the country mention we should have a trust in a particular god?
@@grantco2 I’m not talking about politicians, I’m talking about the people. Whose culture was absolutely Christian. We should trust in the God that “endowed us with inalienable rights”.
@@stevendouglas3781 Where did I mention "politicians?" How does NOT endorsing a specific religion in any way damage Christianity?
And again, those who do not believe in a god or more specifically a Christian god have no reason to "trust" in such a god.
The government “loves” secularism. It is far easier to control, and manipulate, those that have no grounded ethics. This “floating” morality, this “my own will be done” mentality just promotes materialism and hedonism.
Using a 2000 year old book as a "grounding" for ethics has no place in the government of the United States.
@@grantco2 What template for ethics should we follow? Something more modern and hip?
@@PatI-zg9gm The template should be for what has a logical benefit to human existence and society. So unless one's "moral or ethics" are a detriment all should be allowed.
@@grantco2 What is the moral “imperative” of degeneracy? This “as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone” is such a weak justification. Abhorrent behavior does not exist in a vacuum.
@@PatI-zg9gm Your religion based opinions on what is "degenerate" are irrelevant unless some type of harm is being caused.
It's hard to argue with an intelligent person. It's impossible to argue with a stupid person
Secularism is a religion.
Tik toker sounds a lot like Dave smith
What a wispy voice that guy has.
So emotional
Based
Real bundle of sticks this one
Why does the thumbnail have Andrew Wilson posed like a fuckin Chad on it?
How dare you legislate anything from scriptire! It's all supposed to be completely arbitrary!
Andrew it's had to talk to a woman.
😂
Go get a real job. This guy would be of no value in tribal times.
Damn Andrew is terrible at debate
I get that you love the debate I think you're great at it but why do you keep going on these liberals pages bro? I get it that's where the controversy is a bunch of idiots with opinions that don't know how to back them up but when you go on there you're almost like giving them power and it kind of pisses me off. Because they keep muting you! It's like giving a kid the power to silence you and then soon as they start to lose or don't want to hear it they unplug the game while they're losing That's what they're doing with the mute button. I don't know if there's like chat rooms where you can start them and invite them to come on your page or at least so you can have a fair debate since they won't let you speak freely.
Why does Andrew go after light weights
People ask to debate him and he engages everyone. Good for growth imo
He hasn’t been able to hang with the heavy weights. Too many contradictions in his philosophy
the one's that seek him out, are at beginner level lol
That guy had some serious feminine energy
Religion and state are different
Nothing in the constitution says that laws cannot be influenced by religion. It just says Congress cannot establish a national religion. And you cannot stop anyone from exercising a religion
@@DrooledOn yeah but shoudnt
@@SubZero-hs9xc Thats awesome, since the supreme court ruled atheism a religion. So according to U.S. standard, what you're asking for is IMPOSSIBLE. LOL. You must be an atheist. You comment like one. Asking for impossible things. Lol.
@@SubZero-hs9xcwhy not?
@@SubZero-hs9xcyou're making an ought claim, back it up
Andrew Wilson is wrong. Ethics and morality has nothing to do with religion. Americans have the ethics of respecting others religions not because they Christians, but because they are ROMANS, and these ethics are derived from Roman Polytheism. Andrew Wilson should study the causes behind the Crusades. Monotheism is a political ambition, polytheism is a cold hard reality.
Absolute nonsense.
@@AlexTamayo., So you disagree. Cool. That's the spirit of the First Amendment. 👍
You have a right to be wrong
@@TheOtherGuy-2002, So do you, and you exercised that right just now.
Dude do you believe in the many worlds theory of quantum physics . I think you have just proven it as a fact because what you said is utter nonsense in this reality 😂😂😂😂.
Have you studied the writings of the early Christian’s like the disciples of the apostles ???? There is absolutely nothing polytheistic about them .
In fact nothing that resembled polytheism had come up until Arianism which taught henotheism which means that Jesus was a created lesser God ( which is what the jehovas witnesses teach today ), but there was nothing in early Christian history that taught polytheism .
As I said which universe do you come from because it sure ain’t ours 😂😂 😂😂😂😂
0:12 No, you dont. Just go to canada where they'll make the locals have to put up with immigrants that don't care. Just come up here where the gov will give you more benefits than those thats families built the country...
Tik Tok is not ready for you, Andrew. Tik Tok is for those who cannot debate.
Should be titled Andrew debates gay Dane Cook.