How Paganism Dominated The Ancient World | Gods & Monsters | Absolute History
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Tony Robinson confronts Viking berserkers, recreates the flaming horror of the Wicker Man, re-enacts a ritual human sacrifice, and witnesses self-mutilation demanded - all in his quest to understand how our ancestors worshiped.
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I really dislike how Paganism is basically now contextualized as a single thing. It's just an overall term for hundreds of different religions, only theme being more than one god. Some performed human sacrifices like in the Ancient Mayan and Aztec civilizations, while the Romans abhorred it as a sign of barbarism.
Christians sacrificed "witches" all the damn time but it's normalized so whatever
Yes. It should be called polytheism if referred to a more than one god.
Yeah because witches were evil spirits in human bodies
You're a fool who listens to these colonizers XD
The Romans were one of the most barbaric in history
My great-grandmother once told me the story of how Christians came to Norway. They came with tales of a savior who loved everyone, but brought a Troll called Satan behind them.
I found that story very apt.
Yes, I too find that apt. And Christianity had it's own version of human sacrifice--all the people killed in the various Inquisitiondsd and those who preferred to die rather than become Christians.
@@harrietharlow9929 that wasn’t Christianity. That’s pages Roman Catholicism. Big difference.
@@southernberean8166 Typical Protestant. Your side wasn't above burning heretics at the stake. YTou took all the beauty out of the Mass. I honor the Mother of God and ask her intercession, so your religion is not something in which I am interested.
@@harrietharlow9929 oh! You worship the mother goddess ! wonderful
@@lynnlynn2661 Yes I love the great Mother.
The slave was a top notch actress, truly well done.
Maybe she was a real slave that actually got killed. Sometimes documentaries are also snuff films.
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 That actually crossed my mind.
Someone has a little crush.
10/10 would stone again
The Barbarian football team was also very amusing
"Terrifying Viking berserkers"...cut to rugby players. And I'm laughing my head off. Perfect!
LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣😃😃🤣
1500 years being Christian? Are you sure the people of 1500 years ago would recognize anything christian in contemporary christianity beyond the cross itself?
I think they would, including the cross. I believe that what is now referred to Saint Bridget's cross was originally a Pagan symbol.
@@frankieamsden7918 Yes! And is used as a symbol of the cross roads, especially for necromancers.
Well the teachings of the Catholic church barely changed in last 15 centuries. While a sixths century Christian would not be familiar with gothic and baroques architecture and saints born since then like Francis of Assisi they would still be familiar with basic prayers like Credo, Gloria, Pater Noster and Kyrie Eleison, the eucharist is still done the same, monasticism still exists and there is still a pope in Rome.
As far as I can tell, there's hardly any Christians left on our modern planet...but quite a few who claim to be.
@@michaelfried3123 I would agree to that.
The slave girl will totally be super famous one day. She's amazing! She made me really scared for her and I knew she really wasn't going to die.
Meh
Who played her? The credits in these things are fast and 2 small to read.
I guess the OG Burning Man festival wasn't quite as fun.
I don't know. It'd probably be a laugh if you weren't the poor sod offered up.
I laughed way to hard at this. Lol good job
After having watched the sacrifial religion with it's horrific human sacrifice I'm so happy that the God who replaced them was a God who preached love and who still exists today but alas with many disbelievers who reject Him and his whole ministry. What is wrong with these people? Don't they believe in the God of love and compassion. Would they really prefer to revert to the old God's who were indifferent to the needs of man. Myself I rejoice in the God of love and hope He will always be there welcoming us to Heaven with his eyes full of compassion.
@@susansinsua5583 It's all superstitious crap to me. Other than the differences you stated it's no different than the religions featured in this video that it replaced. Even the holidays are mostly watered down ripoffs, with different names and adapted reasons. There are no gods and there is no single god either (that's just being delusional). Religion has pretty much served it's main purpose (explaining things that happen in nature before science existed and controlling the masses before gov'ts were rather effective) and today humanity would be better off without it. If it wasn't for 1100 years of Christian brainwashing, the resulting Dark Ages, and having to rediscover things the Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians knew 2000 years ago we'd most likely be already colonizing not only the solar system but the nearest stars right now among other things instead of sometime in the 3200's (a realistic estimate, assuming we don't extinct ourselves before then, big assumption). I hope that explains a bit why atheists think the way we do.
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 There were no such thing as dark ages. It was the church that preserved ancient greek philosophy and science although they did first a better job it Byzantine empire. It was even Christians like Byzantines and Nestorians who translated those works to arabic for muslims while later the western christian priests translated it from arabic to latin in 11th and 12th century. I recommned you to read about the 12th century renaissance which debunks the nonsense that middle ages were with no progress or read about Catholic priests who were also scientists like Albertus Magnus, Lemaitre, Roger Bacon, Jean Burridan and Robert Grosseteste.
Why are they painted the “statues” white? When the Romans painted their white marble statues flesh colored?
That's the color of the stone with the ancient pigments gone.
Because they don't understand history.
White is better than brown
I like the concept that once the documentary was over, the Rugby team is still out there acting like animals in a form of hypnosis during games
i was a rugby player-------that's just how they do.
The derogatory term 'pagan' itself was an invention by those of the monotheistic faiths, to assert themselves as more enlightened and superior and to degrade those polytheists. There are/were so many different 'pagan' traditions, some virtuous and some downright horrible ( a trait also present in monotheistic religions ). I think monotheists should be open-minded to check out why polytheism/paganism was the order in the past with an empathetic perspective.
It's also possible to see the same human sacrifices in the middle ages by the catholic. And there are still horrible murders in name of god (remember the black slaves? And no I'm not black) in these days. So pagan beliefs aren't that different and bad after all. There is good and bad in any time period and belief system so don't condemn some and not others.
@@carrytheworld ...... what are you even talking about? Race has nothing to do with this...
@@anthonypareigis6188 if you think i m talking about races then you missed the point of my answer. It s just proof that christianity is as bad as other forms of believe. Slavery is just one point christian leaders gave in to.
@@carrytheworld again what does race have to do with it? Were the dahomy christians? They were responsible for the capture and sale of 1/5 of all slaves from west Africa. Were the moorish slavers christian? What about the workers incthe kafala system in Qatar? Are they enslaved by christians?Slavery isnt a christian invention.
Patriarchal rather than monotheistic I would say. Matriarchs worship God as Mother & they are sane, just & benevolent.
Odin wasn't the god of War. Tyr was the War God and Thor was the God of Warriors and bravery.
In The Norse pantheon. There's many more.
Odin was the god of wisdom, war, and a lot of other things, seeing as he was the 'top dog'.
@@caseymarchal3214 The norse gods aren't really norse.
@@redterrorproductions1373 children of jotnarr
@@rustypotato9064 The germanic tribes and the norse people are the same in origin but culturally different to some extent
One crucial omission to the berserker story is the consumption of a hallucinogenic beverage to further enhance their infamous unbridled savagery and fearlessness in battle
That's a popular hypothesis, as is the postulation that they might have been raging drunk. It's also proposed that they may simply have worked themselves up into a state of adrenaline-fuled frenzy and battle ecstacy.
Historians still don't definitively know for sure if they were high, drunk, psychologically worked up on adrenaline, or some combination thereof, though it may also have varied during different times in history or among different people/places.
Psycodelic doesn't make one violent in fact opposite effect they cause one to love everyone and everything.
@@cupsoflove1245 Sometimes. But some hallucinogenic drugs can cause people to become violent, such as when someone has a bad trip on PCP.
@@cristiaolson7327 did they have pcp ? I'm thinking more like shrooms is what they would have had . shrooms would end war.
@@cupsoflove1245 I'm personally in the camp of believing that berserkers were actually just hyped up on adrenaline and maybe a little alcohol. I was simply pointing out that while shrooms might be a mellow trip, some hallucinogenic compounds, including some natural ones, can cause bad trips. Also the mind-state of a person going into a trip can affect how they behave on the drug, so if they were intentionally hyping themselves up while consuming it, it may have affected them differently than a person who was taking compounds for recreational purposes.
Bog bodies are usually high status, having eating high quality food, their hands and nails did not show signs of work, and mostly males. This seems rather inaccurate with a slave woman. This is based on a book comparing Celtic bog bodies throughout Europe and Britain.
paganism was part off macedonia histroy this is why side off roman empire was eastern empire christian orthodoxy macedonian empire the other half pagans still worshipping macedonian gods and culture western roman
People: sacrifice a person to appease a spirit
The spirit: "wtf do I do with a dead person?"
Barbeque?
I guess the gods would receive the life force or Soul of the sacrifice.
The life of the sacrifice is given out of respect in the hopes that it'll be returned as blessings
they take it's spirit of course
That lady dancing during castration scene was having a little too much fun about it. Lol
She’s living her best life! 😂😂😂
She'd just had a nasty divorce. It was cathartic. ;)
@@MorganMalfoy13 Lorena Bobbitt is in the documentary?
Given all the castration going on I wasn't expecting HER to be the one screaming
If he doesn't castrate himself, is he rly even WORTH forgiving?
Where does this information come from? Christianity! The Catholic Monks wrote this, Celts did not write down their stories. They had Bards and Druids to keep their history by word of mouth. Lets not forget the Romans who also wrote what they wanted.
A lot of history on the Druids is just speculation, there really isn't much that we know about it.
Archaeological evidence matches the Roman accounts
The Druids practiced the most human sacrifice. They ruled with sorcery
You obviously haven’t heard of ancient Celtic writing called runes and ogam
@@busyb1513 runes are not Celtic they are Norse and it is Ogham.....smh
Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought Constantine only made Christianity legal in Rome and one of his successors made it an official state religion.
Correct it was Theodosius I, the statement is also very simplistic because christianity did not boom overnight it took a very long while to become a big religion. It only started gaining traction around 800 with the conquests of Charlemegne and even then it was mainly aristocrats who converted for political gain while the mass population remained pagan. Pagan traditions were even upheld for a very long time, most people even only went to church one time per year when they were ''converted'' and only the clergy could read the bible.
@@Mattdewit Actually two thirds or Europe was already Christian in the year 800 AD. By the time Charlemagne was crowned places like Ireland. Francis, England, Iberia, Italy, Illyria, Switzerland and Greece were fully Christian.
@@herodotus945 To say those regions were ''fully'' Christian is a very large simplification, like I said there were big diffrences between the elite and peasants, city and country side and last but not least practicing vs actual conversion. I also would like to know where you got the 2/3 statistic but I assume you made it up on the spot.
@@Mattdewit in 800 AD Europe had a population of 30 milion people, half of them lived in Frankish empire. Scandinavia had 600.000 inhabitants, Britain almost 2.000.000 while Muslims were 25%of population in Iberia with Jews being nearly 10. These facts were taken from various sources including by historians like Peter Brown, J. Russell and so on.
@@herodotus945 Yes a lot people lived in those regions but that is not what I asked. You said 2/3 were Christian but like I said not everyone in the Frankish empire and England were christians, not by a long shot.
People statues painted white yet we know the real statues had vibrant color including the skin.....so they didn't need to paint these people at all. Also this doc leaves out a lot and uses a lot of speculation presented as fact.
got any proof, or are you just writing out of your ass? Tony here is a lot more trustworthy than YOU are!
@@scottdoesntmatter4409 the documentary on Herculaneum on this channel features a broken statue with the hair still painted red and the eyes and eyelashes also still painted. That broken statue is one of the most recent finds in the last 30 years. So no OP is not taking out of their ass you’re just an ignorant jackass.
@@samiam5196 You assume far too much. It's not the painting but the "uses a lot of speculation presented as fact" that I object to, twit. And btw, reported for harassment.
@@scottdoesntmatter4409 don't dish it out if you can't take it crybaby🤦
@@scottdoesntmatter4409 one Roman historian wrote an honest account of one sacrificial act. There are far more cases of specious propaganda, so much so the woman said herself...this was a case( and I believe she said rare case)where the archeology and the account lined up. If there was even a case of them being mostly correct, she'd never of said it. And we've known about the painting of marble statues long before the proof at Herculaneum was discovered. The modern taste dictated that and the truth was mostly downplayed....
That reenactment was scary man, that woman telling what to do in such a frank way
Yeah...seems she may be experienced.
Paganism is a lot of things and it's for sure a lot more than witches and sacrifice. Greek mythology was Pagan. Pagan really just means you believe in multiple gods and it used to be a word for farmers.
I've mentioned before that in Time Team and other videos, Tony almost always says that something happened "on an industrial scale," and in this one, he does not disappoint!
It’s intriguing that ancient history can be replicated, and there are people out here who spend their lives trying to investigate what’s occurred before our lives even began.
This video was very fulfilling, thank you.
Worst jobs in history: Pagan edition
All I can hear him say is “I have a cunning plan” which puts an interesting perspective on the whole human sacrifice thing
How cunning?
Anyone who thinks that this cruelty is finished hasn’t taken note of the people poisoned by Putin or persecuted in Myanmar, or warred against and starved in Yemen and in other places all over the planet. We don’t even have the justification of satisfying the local gods or not understanding our environment. Those who pursue such violence in all its forms have taken onto themselves the right to act act as a god against others for no reason but pure selfishness.
The richeous feeling of today wasn't the same as those back then. So it would be very improper to take modern values and use them to judge past Cultures. And you're right, to assume that there is more civility and peaceful manner today, is only someone fooling themselves....
Or old people loaded into old folks homes and left to die alone by evil governments, over a faked virus.
@@nunyabizness199 how can it be a “faked” virus if millions of people died?
@@nunyabizness199
> left to die
> faked virus
???????????? Seriously?
Well yes there is a god, it’s called money.
Now pagans roast people on Twitter. Nothing changed.
thats just rampant narcissism Lol
That's odd. I, as a pagan, have been "roasted" by non-pagans more often and more insultingly than by pagans. Not surprisingly, usually by Christians who were unaware of my religious affiliations. Careful where you point that finger.
@@phyllisdicks9830 Merry meet and Bless'ed Be, sister.
@@Kerosene.Dreams Hail, sister. I am Norse pagan, to be specific. You know, the odd thing is that all but one of my RL friends are Christian, and they have no issues with my religious affiliations; they never have. Social media, unfortunately, sometimes brings out the worst in people
@@phyllisdicks9830 I'm very Eclectic and Grey, as well as a Pagan Priestess. Norse is very much a part of my spiritual path. There are great people in this world from every path, the shitty ones are just louder. lol
As a Pagan woman, I find it interesting but insulting? Like, why are you focusing ONLY on "horrific" Pagan traditions? There were loads of more peaceful pagans yet not one was in this? Hmmm. Biased much? Not to mention quite a few of these "facts" are literally speculation. :/
the horrific traditions are the ones that get clicks.
@@CHLOCHLOLP My Lord, how are you on RUclips?
@@rajeevupadhyay4590 Rowling sold us out to the muggles.
@@CHLOCHLOLP Oh. Sorry to hear that. Considering your dislike of muggles.
Because that's the theme of the show, I guess. There isn't much interest in knowing about stuff they did that some of us still do today (like living a normal life).
the Celtic religion was actually very sophisticated, it has a lot in common with the religion of India. This is pretty sensationalized.
The name is literally "Gods and Monsters". What did you expect?
Alike to India? I smell a closet Aryan....
@@LucianCorrvinus - Actually there are no such thing as Aryans, all Indians are of Dravidian descent. Arya is a term meaning "Prince', or "noble". It was a title, never a race of people.
In India it was a habit in some place, that the wife follows her husband into death, so they jumped on funeral pire. I think it was called sati
Your mind is gone if you can call a religion with human sacrifice as a key element anything but barbaric and insane.
They're really acting like Christianity is so moral as if they're was no atrocities committed in the name of the jewish God.
The Jewish God is the Christian God
And the One True God
Get your facts straight, pathetic troll
Very interesting. As far my research has shown, there has only been one recorded case of the blood eagle being done, and it was described in a ballad, so it is unclear if it was done at all in reality.
Well thank God !
Tons of historical inaccuracies in this one, but still a fun episode
What parts
Everything in the video is truth. Acknowledge it
@@overlord5068 it's... not. it's citing primary roman sources that have long been debunked as being propaganda made up by the romans to villianize the people they were conquesting. this is basic history. ruclips.net/video/8JBW-_zq4xM/видео.html
@@AH-pu8iu Things regarding human sacrifice, the "wicker man" thing, etc, where from roman primary sources and have long since been debunked as roman propaganda made up to villianize the pagan peoples they were in the process of conquering ruclips.net/video/8JBW-_zq4xM/видео.html
@@Chanicle Wrong. The video is truth
This is entirely inaccurate. If you’re going to talk history do it right. Don’t put Christian bias all over everything which it clearly was in this video
The whole purpose was to give a bit of a comparison. That's not bias.
@@intedominesperavi6036 but there is no comparison, so....its all one sided=bias.
One would say its probably difficult to not include Christian bias...considering they almost rewrote history
@@intedominesperavi6036 it is when it ostensible judges another group and casts it as backward or inhuman...
@@LucianCorrvinus That appears to be the human way, to paint other humans as backwards and inhuman. Our Pagan ancestors did do those things, and our Christian ancestors were no better. At least they had fairly accurate explanations for why they did what they did. Well, as accurate as the innate bias that comes from Christian-recorded records will allow.
Edit: a typo and this: mystery cults were far older than what this documentary says. They were simply more well-known by that point.
These people were out of their freaking minds with their sacrifices
I want to see that dance rehearsal without the music and camera editing 😂😂😂
Is the tree already not fertilizing the earth via roots? Wouldn’t cutting the tree be castration
What if no one ever sacrificed anyone, thats just how they dealt with criminals xD. That would change the superior view we have now by quite a bit.
Yeah, like those violent pregnant women!
@@jessreinhardt4408 Pregnant women can be violent also.
"What was the local reaction to Viking raids?"
"They were surprised."
Wow, I guess thoughtful questions get deep answers.
I'm noticing a recurring element in these. Massive speculation based on little to no fact.
It's not really speculation when you read the original Roman witness accounts. Other than that, it's a video about mostly dead religions, some amount of speculation is almost a certainty.
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 So, speculation based on ancient war propaganda? Sounds trustworthy. 🤷♂️
@@interstellarsurfer /shrug all of human history is like that. Some say the tsocoloH izaN (backwards, fuck you AI censor) was fake and that was only ~80 years ago. History is written by the victors and all that, there's no avoiding that until backwards-capable time machines are invented (and even then your presence would change the original to some unavoidable degree).
That's what much of ancient history is. Nothing weird about that.
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 The whole Wicker Man concept is from one sentence from Julius Caesar, in a book that he is noted for exaggeration in. To claim it's something that is a part of the religious beliefs is highly speculative, at best.
28:55 - the classic shot of “We’ll do all the actual work, than press record, let him come in and have a whack at it and watch it fall like he did any of that himself” haha 😂
41:44 Me and the boys reunited during the pandemic!
Yeah.. count me in bro
When it comes to the talk of the Vikings, you've got to love a history production that doesn't get the way anyone looks correctly and half asses their appearance, weapons, armor, and more because they don't want to bother.
Thier depiction of The Wicker Man is false. There is no evidence it was used for human sacrifice at all. It was Roman propaganda. This undermined thier credibility.
you are talking only bad things on other pagan gods but you are not talking about christianity, yahweh is himself a desert pagan God of the 🏜, in fact christianity did horrifick crimes against humanity more than the pagan gods
.... Those were the Catholics not the Christians
The Catholics ARE Christians. And if you mean that Reformed Chatolics like Calvinists and all the Christian septs, big and small, past and present, did nothing bad, well...
@@ipercalisse579 ... Incorrect. Catholicism is NOT Christianity.
We are supposed to be imagining the blood eagle, but instead I’m thinking what a waste of pork. The pig died, he may as well be eaten and not go to waste. Most of us have seen special effects recreations of a blood eagle, and if you read about it, it was done more carefully that that cleaver. You don’t want to damage the spine, as you want to prolong the suffering and allow the eagle to take flight.
I agree. The lungs weren't even in it, so that part of the segment seemed pointless. It felt like a waste of life.
So many comments going "I'd rather do this than do that"
How about we learn from it all and don't do either...? How about we just recognise this was all a bunch of ignorant people grasping at straws because they didn't know about microorganisms, complex weather patterns and several other situations we now understand because we chose to study nature rather than just act on fear in face of it?
Don't do that, dont mistake a lack of knowledge as ignorance. The ancients could calculate eclipses, had knowledge of pharmacology, created objects we still are unsure how they did so, megalithic structures that baffle us, so many things that they showed they did know. When you take that tack, you dismiss all our past as something it never was. You have to claim a legacy to benefit from it...
@@LucianCorrvinus ignorance literally means lack of knowledge. Ignorance is not an insult. People can be intelligent and still ignorant. The problem comes when you willfully choose ignorance over scientific curiosity because of fear, especially when fear is obliterated by the knowledge of how something works almost every time.
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@@Palmieres no shit?,oh....I must alert the media, this is revolutionary thinking....not. Do you believe that using mythos as a means to explain something was derived from fear, or that the Anchients were a stupid lot? You are being an elitist without knowing the scope of the knowledge they ever attained. You with a very ignorant belief yourself are making judgements about the superiority of your mind,over there's. Based on what, that you benefit from living in a Aeon of technological advantages, and the accrued understanding the the sciences built upon by so many more participants than in those Times...? All that data you stand on as if it were your own handiwork, doesn't equate to being of greater intelligence, or less likely to maintain ignorance because of irrational beliefs. There have been many studies of the sizemandmphysiplogymof the brain case of humanmskulls of Humanity to see is there is a major or even noteworthy change in the brain over the timemfrom our first emergence to the current day...wanna quess what the studes ended up telling the scientists making them.....? Or do you want to cling to this misapprehention that somehow your brain and the brain of say, an Egyptian in the dawn of the days of Old Kingdom civilization, are so different, that they are of a lessor intelligence and it was ignorance that was at fault? I cannot recall but one group to whom ignorance was a preferable state, and it certainly has not been the Ones you imply....and by the way.....you also maintain that the study of nature wasn't a thing these people did.....um, then how is it that Stonehenge can predict eclipses? That the Greeks calulcate the Earths size and shape? That the Egytians could make ice? And yes, in this case you are using ignorant to imply a very insulting thing. So, you might want to think about the tone you give off. Because bias is not a standard used in the sciemtific method, and you stink of it..elietisism too but I digress..
The only ignorant one is the one who made this comment.
Unsubscribe; there’s so much inherent negative bias towards these various practices, also pagan usually refers to specifically Norse worship, Hellenistic covers the Greek pantheon worshipers and Druids were practicing LONG before Christianity was a twinkle in skydads eye
The word paganism is an umbrella term for earth based religion. A pagan is a person who follows an earth based religion. There are many different types of paganism just as there are many different types of abrahamic religion.
@@caseymarchal3214 some people use it that way, but as I demonstrated in my comment grouping together Kemetic, Roman, Romani, Greek, Norse and African practices together does nothing but further erase their individual histories, yea they have similarities and appreciating that is amazing but this video even starts on the front foot demonizing practice... the further I get into the video the more colonizer lense it seems to have and it always goes back to comparing them to Christianity? Christianity is not the only religion in the world and I as a practitioner would appreciate seeing a documentary that doesn’t interpret craft of any culture as an edgy counter culture to Christianity
@@somethingw1ck3d337 Enjoy insulting God in hell, you disrespectful 🐽
@@catholicracialist776 looks like my catholic boyfriend has some explaining to do
@@catholicracialist776 plus why TF am I gonna take someone with your username seriously you’re thanos and a racialist? Tf?!?
Paganism hasn't died out, for sure. I know because I am one. We may have evolved past sacrificing each other to the gods, but we still exist in mass numbers and still celebrate our holidays and perform our rituals, just in much safer and non-savage ways. Christian holidays are all based on Pagan holidays, idk why, I guess they just looked at the world around them as it was and decided to morph it to fit their own beliefs. Pagans celebrate with the same symbols and dances and stories our ancestors did, sans testicle crushing.
It made it easier for the pagan europeans to convert to christianity to merge old pagan traditions with their new christian holiday
@@akiraasmr3002 Exactly, they just turned our holidays into their own versions
I agree I am a Norse Pagan
@@lucieelizabethannwesson7016 Very cool. I'm half British, I also have Celtic roots. I was born in the US. I have been Wiccan most of my life.
@@Stardust_7273 I am too Wicca Norse Pagan. blessed Be
If it's terrifying, it's working. Paganism still exists and Christianity is falling. Though I doubt either will ever be completely gone. I don't think that everyone knows that Viking was a job type symbol. Celts, Germanic Goths and the Scandinavian people, along with others were Vikings.
And absolutely nothing about Anglo-Saxon/English paganism. Which is the paganism practiced by the ancestors of the English who are the majority population of the British isles and 4 of the days of the week in English are named after English pagan gods.
I always thought they were Norse gods not English
@@busyb1513 Well English and Norse paganism are both a part of Germanic paganism. The English and Norse were both Germanic pagans and are Germanic people they just spoke a slightly different language and were slightly different culturally. So the names of the gods are slightly different. Like Odin is Woden and Thor is Thunor and Tyr is Tiw and Freya is Friya. Tiw is Tuesday, Woden is Wednesday, Thunor is Thursday and Friya is Friday.
I thought the Pics were painted blue. Not the Celts.
Pics were Celts.
>Talks bad about Christianity and says he is the smartest on earth
>Doesn't know that Picts are Celts...
Found the troll
LOVE ANYTHING WITH TONY ROBINSON IN IT!! You can just tell he's so interested in what he's talking about and he's really passionate about it
Yet they called the Aztecs and Mayans savages for their sacrifices🤔💪🏿🙏🏿👆🏿
They also called the Celts brutes and tried to wipe them out
Ikr Kettle calling the skillet black
@@katmcmoo771 That was the Roman Empire and Caesar who were pagans themselves that wiped out the Druids .
You're thinking of the Catholic Spanish. Completely different culture.
Anyone else seen Midsommer?
This is an obnoxious advertisement for Christianity; as though Christianity has no blood on its hands.
This is a documentary that focuses on pagan cultures, sharing facts about their brutality hurts your feelings? They even talked about brutal practices of christians even though it wasn't the theme of the documentary. Anyways, it's a fact that as a religion (actually followed correctly) christianity is far more ethical than these pagan human sacrifice cults.
Cry more
I know. Just rewatch the intro and he's talking about how wonderful it is that they're all Christians now and inferring that nothing bad ever happened. But then goes on to talk about how terrible pagans were. History is supposed to be told from an unbiased pov. I'm disappointed.
As a celtic person, I really feel like Sacrifice wasn't a thing in paganism, Paganism was never about Sacrifice And Winning battles.
I still don't understand how accurate are the sources for human sacrifice performed by celts and other cultures...
I'ma be pissed if they don't show people who actually worship the gods today
These reenactments though 😂😂😂 how did they keep a straight face.
"We should paint a bountiful hunt on the caves. Like the ancient ancestors did."
"No."
"A bountiful harvest?"
"No."
"So what then?"
"We kill one another."
y’all are pushing it w the background music
NOT THE BEES
one of the most anti-pagan, pro-christian documenteries i've ever watched ... amazing ...
It's a shame there's not a link to all the cast, and crew that worked on this and other documentaries on this channel. I'm sure they'd be happy with the credits for all their wonderful work.
I totally agree , at least they can put it in the description.
as if fire and brimstone wasn’t a total fact of christianity
yeah, i mean if we're talking about the most horrific religious practices of ancient britain, aren't we forgetting one?
...or do i smell maybe a bit of bias here...
@@papercranes1321 can't have the Christians face up to thier own past behaviors can we now.....and those failures, have bleed into the modern age..
Not original christianity. It taught universal salvation for the first 500 years of it's existence. The concept of hell being a realm of eternal torture trough fire is actually originally a pagan idea. The "Lake of fire", which correctly translated is actually a "pot" of fire was seen as a metaphor for the purification process of gold, that's why it's The "Lake of fire and sulphur". Sulphur was required to purify gold. The sinful nature of men die in this process, but they themselves are saved. The vast majority of the early church taught universal salvation.
@@yamchathewolf7714 good job thats why they condoned rape
I feel like this documentary is highly biased -the presenter talks as though christianity hadn't performed sacrificial rituals in the name of god for hundreds of years: which is what witch trials were, essentially. Many atrocities have been made in the name of all religions carried out to the extreme. This documentary has a one-sided view in regards to this. Don't get me wrong, it's a great documentary! Just something to keep in mind in order to make it better or, at least, more objective.
The documentary focusses on the time before Christianity. I don’t know what your point is? Certainly this documentary is not ‘biased’. It just shows a different time frame.
Tony s made other documentaries covering the ‘crazy’ rituals in the West, during various moments in christian history. Go watch those, they are also pretty good!
It’s definitely biased. Christianity isn’t focused on, but it’s the contrast point against which “Pagan” traditions and ideas are lumped into one. It has nuggets of correct info, but a lot of speculation and leading presentation represented as fact, and a small part of pagan cultures as the whole story. Especially cultures and religions that were based on oral documentation, like the pagans, the written sources of their adversaries/outsiders need to be taken with a good deal of salt.
@@katieowlpower how the hell could you know if it’s biased?! Like you said… we know nothing bc of oral documentation! Lol
@@laurenedson7625 listen to the dark tone and the certainty of the documentary. Oral traditions make it hard to know anything for certain, but it doesn’t mean you can’t engage at all with the material. But the trick is you have to keep in mind the layers of distortion, and this documentary is both incurious and reductive.
@@katieowlpower ok I have to admit you have a point .. I just pushed play to listen again and immediately hear the haunted house music and death knell bongs lol
Wicker man reminds me of the Spanish Inquisition. So much for the improvement of religion by Christianity.
I'm pagan ny ancestors are happy
Same converted to germanic paganism to honor my ancestors. Hail Odin.
ME TOO
@@Name-tf4qp Hail Odin
Tony Tony...TONY!!! You nailed it right at the end!!! Christians have to understand that their forefathers got into bed with Pagans and at the same time, Pagans got into bed with Christians. This is what I left almost 10 years ago! Christmas, Easter, Lent, Christmas trees, It's ALL connected to Paganism. This I hope, is a wake up call for Christians who don't want Paganism in their worship.
Lastly, I believe this is Tony's shining moment! Great job to all involved in producing this episode!
Lol you sacrifice humans n kids n you should be included with us? No we aren't canninals Or child sacrificers. We are the soldiers the chosen ones of the most high God who's wrath no for can withstand including your parents who ar witches n demons
I hope u get lucky with your semitic desert cult.....
Didn't the roman paint their statues
Obviously, human sacrifice is brutal and horrible and I wouldn't dream of advocating for it. But the implication that Christianity is soo much more sophisticated when there were literal crusades seriously grinds my gears. I doubt there is a single modern religion not guilty of murder and it's not like religious zealots are a thing of the past. Again, obviously, human sacrifice isn't much better, but let's not be so quick to pat ourselves on the back, yeah?
Awfully convenient how y'all talk about the horrors of Pagan religions while glossing over/ ignoring the horrors of Christianity...
Yuuup. I couldn't finish it. I'm very disappointed in how biased and inaccurate this is. It's offensive.
Superstition and stupidity has killed more in the name of god
The depiction of Norse religion is kind of silly. :p
Most of it kind of ends up being that. You can't really understand that kind of thing in the modern era. For ever person taking it seriously there was another who just looked at these things for a chance to get laid.
22:41 "More spiritual than Practical"...hmm have you read the Bible
The Laws of the Old Testament more than the 10 commandments for their offerings for their diet
for dealing with their relationships, neighbors and slaves etc.. the first 5 books called the Torah or their laws. They literally have a system.
And how could Jesus be well known if he wasn't "practical".
Have you read his teachings?
The reason why Christianity is more personal was because Christ Himself is the one who came to earth or to people like in the book of Luke where he purposed to meet the Samaritan Woman, his personal encounters with people shows his genuineness he's not interested with religious rituals he doesn't want "empty worship" or worship for a business transaction he cares about other, the people before, the people now, me and you and that is what the cross is about.
If Christianity isn't practical why the books? why do people write about the biblical God, specifically theological books that expands the horizon of this biblical God?
And literally the people who wrote the books in the bible aren't just fishermen who followed a Charles Manson-Character .Take Paul, he was literally a Lawyer, Luke is a Doctor, Mathew is a tax collector (this concerning the new testament) surely people with this status are practical...
You missed the fact that Christianity has many denominations with their own beliefs/Doctrines
not everyone gives tribute to Mary and the "Saints" (see 1 Corin. 1:1-3)
"not everyone who says unto me "Lord, Lord" shall enter heaven" -Jesus
not everyone who say I love you means it
not everyone who has a diploma is a Historian
You can't quantify Christianity to it's fullest with a few sentences because Christianity is a living organism, which is Christianity itself , the churches and dominations that branch off it(sometimes withering but uses the bible, or some of it as a foundation).
Easter and Christmas some of the examples indeed those dates fall on a pagan holiday but what is the reason, or rather why do we celebrate it?
We don't celebrate Christmas with the Harvest festival in mind. We celebrate Christmas because, regardless of the date it is our way to show our gratitude to God, who mind you, didn't ask for any human sacrifice to appease his Wrath but rather in his fullness find it right to Sacrifice his own because he knows no one can save humanity except His only begotten son- A perfect and unblemished sacrifice like the lamb they used to sacrifice before to transfer their sin to it... though I wonder if human sacrifice is more practical than sacrificing a lamb out of the herd instead of out of humans ... anyways the same goes for Easter for some of us its no bunnies no eggs or the festive decorum but rather his cross his crown his cure...He died He was burrier but he rose again and anyone who believer may it be them, you, or me is reconciled to his/her maker, no death, no pain but an eternity in paradise. Easter and Christmas are nothing without Christ.
No hate, just frustrations
so here I go with a sum of explanation
from the accumulated grace and compassion
preached by the biblical instruction
reconcile the clash from another perception.
clarifying is my goal to this video
Thank you so much for putting these concerns into words! So much about Christianity came directly from Pagan or formerly-Roman religious practices--such as Pan being used as an image of Satan. This documentary shows a heavily-biased view of religious history, thus failing to accurately represent the Pagan beliefs, Christian faith, and the history of Christianity's rise/Paganism's decline.
It is difficult to attempt to seek the lord's path. God is one but how do we find unity with Christ , the Pope, The Priest, the Bible,
Or do we look for a eastern Guru that is thought to be a holy Man and the idea is that Jesus is the son of God the same way as other holy men are also the son of God. Then there is the "mystery religion"
Very entertaining though it might be somewhat more interesting if you actually tried to base it on actual historical facts 😬
Tony seemed to have a little too much fun slicing and dicing... And why are celts blue...
That was my question as well what's with the blue XD
Damn not all paganism was like this lol
They were polytheists
They didn't believe in Christ
I don't care if they were peaceful or not. That's totally irrelevant
@@catholicracialist776 what is with you trolling pagans? You having a choir boy shortages?
@@MsPegasus1001 Trolling... who?
Extremely interesting. It certainly added a new dimension to my view of the Christmas tree!
12:58 I think i remember reading somewhere that the sacrifice was given some sort of drug beforehand that would have made the drawnout murder "easier." Didnt they find the remnants in some of the bog bodies stomachs?
Incredible misinformation. Absolutely baffling coming from a channel I love so much as this.
How is human sacrifice different from modern capital punishment?
Capital punishment is merely a punitive measure for committing a crime deemed worthy of death by a culture/society. A human sacrifice has religious connotations and doesn't inherently necessitate a punitive aspect to it. It is an offering to a god with expectations of something in return from the divine. You aren't killing a prisoner of capital punishment with expectations of something in return from that death, you are just enacting a form of harsh justice.
Take the Ancient Egyptians for example. They did not sacrifice people to their gods but they did execute captured enemies and criminals as a form of capital punishment.
The Egyptians replaced humans with clay figures to symbolically represent people who were traditionally sacrificed to serve their lord in the afterlife, where it connected the ka with the ba so that their spirit could serve in both realms. They also would use clay figurines like voodoo dolls, cursing and damaging the figures in a graveyard so that the spirits of the dead would come back to haunt and attack their enemies represented in the figurines.
There are accounts of Egyptians establishing forts on new frontiers where there are no graveyards, and so they would execute captured enemies and use their recently deceased spirits to haunt their enemies as they prepare for war. This was not some sacrifice to a god with expectations of something in return, but was merely a means of obtaining ghosts to help them fight their war by haunting the military and political leadership so that they err and surrender to the Egyptians in hopes of the curse being broken. This is the closest thing that they had to human sacrifice, but it wasn't to a god and they did not expect to get something in return from a god, merely to direct the anger and wrath of a spirit onto an enemy without divine intervention.
are they trying to propose that somehow monotheism (a single god) was "like nothing the world had ever seen before"?
*coughs in jesus was jewish*
Well for all those people in northern Europe who had no idea what Jews are it seemed new.
As a pagan, I don't know if I want to watch this lol
You're not a pagan. You're an atheist pretending to be a pagan
sadly its not qute accurte, plus its a little bias if you ask me..
@@catholicracialist776 and how would you know what they are ?
@@GreenSage307 Are you trolling
@@catholicracialist776 what.... I can't have an opinion or ask questions?
Why must people who don’t know or understand a subject &/or religion talk about it like they do know the subject/religion?🤔🤦♂️ Most of what they have said about pagans & paganism is completely off & it’s clear that they have really misunderstood this subject especially the Vikings, & it’s clear that they have used the Christianaist version of the religion & society as sources. It’s really offensive & irritating when there is legit sources that haven’t been touched or changed by Christianity 🤦♂️😠😡
Handsome.
💯💯💯💯
What are you talking about
The lady describing the process a human sacrifice experiences was weird. Is it just me or did the way she narrate it make any one else uncomfortable?
Because she was rather clinical? She's a professor of history and wouldn't present this or any other lecture or demonstration in an emotional manner.
Possibly not used to speak while being recorded
I'd say the discomfort was your feeling....
No I was just really stoned and her intensity freaked me out
She was really enjoying it.
wait till he finds out that people practicing witchcraft is still a thing
I am reminded of the line from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer show. We Americans have to put on armor to play rugby.
The Pagans aren't "murderers" they're killers, big difference.
I got secondhand embarrassment from the rugby players I'm sorry but I can't take them seriously in this context
Love this. Very interesting. Although there is no evidence of sacrifice in a Wicker Man, there was still human sacrifice (see:Bog Bodies and the Triple Death).
Yep I think its a Christian boogeyman
@@doggolovescheese1310 I think so as well.
blood eagleing is a very debated topic it happens only twice in any sagas or other sources?? we have no proof of it ever happening in real life??
Horrific is an understatement.
Great to know the realities.
Now study the realities of Christianity- from inception until now…
Yikes. I think I'll go back to historic cooking shows
Tony is the best for these documentaries
The bad thing about this strange human behavior is that most of the people in power (politians, oligarchs etc.) still behave like that...disgusting.!
Man Britian has been through a wringer of faiths lol
SO........Attis [ turned into a pine tree] would be where we get the term " Morning Wood........."
one of the rugby players gf: hey hun why were you so late coming home
him: uh well uhm here's a video
Constantin was a dreadful apostate...and we have been paying for his betrayal ever since.🖤🇨🇦
Tony and the enactors make this interesting
I love Tony omg, he made my childhood!