DEFCON 17: That Awesome Time I Was Sued For Two Billion Dollars

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @dflosounds
    @dflosounds 5 лет назад +231

    "That's the second person to tell me I have 10 minutes left.....that means I have 20 minutes!" I hope one day I can be that quick-witted while standing in front of a large audience.

  • @jtal3292
    @jtal3292 9 лет назад +148

    14:25 The statement he makes is very true. Happened to me when I was 16. Was in a car accident that was clearly not my fault. Police report said it was not my fault. All fault placed on the other party. They hired a lawyer who harassed my family and I for a year saying they were going to sue us, that we had done wrong, that there was legal precedent we should give them money. Don't fall for this or take it to heart.

    • @edlingja1
      @edlingja1 7 лет назад +13

      JT Al Oh yeah, you just go to court when summoned and tell the truth. People will hold lawyers above your head like it's a special perk, but if you didn't do anything wrong, you don't have to worry. They may try to perjure themselves hoping you won't call their bluff; but any amount of critical thinking will show their fault. Thus the case will fall through and you don't even need a lawyer to allege perjury.

    • @WOGBOY
      @WOGBOY 7 лет назад

      lol just go no contact :^)

  • @ryani4472
    @ryani4472 8 лет назад +1453

    What's funny is the "The Federal Zone" guy is quoting federal law which according to his book does not apply to areas outside of "federal" territories.

    • @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
      @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 6 лет назад +19

      What if he lived in DC?

    • @jamescarmody4713
      @jamescarmody4713 6 лет назад +93

      He explains this in the first letter with an absolute logic bomb. He says that he acts "under the laws of the United States of America without the 'United States' (federal government)"
      He is acting under federal law...but the federal government doesn't exist...but federal law still applies...all I can do is laugh.

    • @tacokoneko
      @tacokoneko 6 лет назад +25

      I just skip the whole sovereign citizen nonsense and get straight to the part where I believe the federal government should be mostly abolished

    • @mikesgoodmann9349
      @mikesgoodmann9349 6 лет назад +4

      @@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai Then he has to pay income tax there.

    • @SavageGreywolf
      @SavageGreywolf 6 лет назад +10

      he's a sovereign citizen, he's not quoting federal law, he's MOLESTING federal law.

  • @OddlyIncredible
    @OddlyIncredible 6 лет назад +267

    "Vexatious litigant" = you've abused the legal system, and thus are barred from filing any further civil actions without a prior okay from a judge.

    • @TRG29338
      @TRG29338 5 лет назад +7

      @Paul _ Are you THE Paul??

    • @andrewmoore8039
      @andrewmoore8039 5 лет назад +7

      @Paul _ thanks for answering the question for us lol

    • @andrewmoore8039
      @andrewmoore8039 5 лет назад +6

      @Paul _ thats about verbatim the response i was expecting. you dont disappoint.

    • @andrewmoore8039
      @andrewmoore8039 5 лет назад +12

      @Paul _ i gotta be honest paul... you seem a little off... talking about communists and shit. where did you get that from? no. wait. i don't want to know. just go ahead and send me the paperwork on the gazillion dollar defamation suit you're filling on me lol.

    • @ReroutedYearAD
      @ReroutedYearAD 4 года назад +1

      A rocket scientist that thinks shared property is bad but is arguing in favour of a nation that uses the same concept. Wow. Must be really smart. Gotta have an IQ of 9 to work for NASA?

  • @mikearthut781
    @mikearthut781 9 лет назад +1649

    You owe me 2 trillion dollars. Or, pay me $25, right now, and we even.

    • @SmokeyEdits
      @SmokeyEdits 7 лет назад +22

      I can't tell if this guy is the Slenderman or if he's a delusional heroin addict who ran out of people to steal from.

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 6 лет назад +6

      so I owe you $25 with millions % interest

    • @stickinthemud23
      @stickinthemud23 5 лет назад +1

      @@shabbyken2578 What other recourse does he have?

    • @lemax6865
      @lemax6865 5 лет назад +5

      @@stickinthemud23 None, but that course of action still makes him a hypocrite. Not to mention that there's now documented proof that he is either criminally insane of profoundly stupid. Perhaps both.

    • @stickinthemud23
      @stickinthemud23 5 лет назад +3

      @@lemax6865 I mis-wrote my comment. I was not intending to comment about that nut who sued, and you are absolutely right about him. He needs help. Administered in a room with padded walls.

  • @pamps_alone
    @pamps_alone 5 лет назад +129

    This whole setup is reminiscent of the current abuse of RUclips's copyright claim system

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier 5 лет назад +2

      How do you know the cuckoo isnt working for RUclips...

    • @revenevan11
      @revenevan11 11 дней назад

      5year old comment on an even older video, and it's more true than ever even beyond RUclips 😩

  • @dokatz
    @dokatz 8 лет назад +802

    I don't know how I landed on this video, but I really like this guy.

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 8 лет назад +1

      Peter Brill dat algorithm

    • @dokatz
      @dokatz 8 лет назад +4

      SgtKOnyx oh God am I so boring someone thinks I'm a bot? Is it finally happening?

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 8 лет назад +10

      Peter Brill no, RUclips just makes more money off of this video than others. It's why you see it

    • @pingpingthetinychainsmoker7863
      @pingpingthetinychainsmoker7863 8 лет назад +1

      Oh no busy youtube algorithm just crazy these days so nobody knows why anything is popular now lol bai

    • @pingpingthetinychainsmoker7863
      @pingpingthetinychainsmoker7863 8 лет назад +2

      You liked the yeh meme so I can see you have atleast somewhat explored youtube and thus are 1 of us. Cool

  • @foramerica21
    @foramerica21 5 лет назад +515

    RUclips why NOW. I NEED TO KNOW. WHY NOW MUST I WATCH THIS

    • @MisterDarkfall
      @MisterDarkfall 5 лет назад +26

      LOL. True story. Happened to me. Watched the whole thing. No regrets.

    • @leonstrand329
      @leonstrand329 5 лет назад +3

      He has a few videos online and they are all great

    • @nemergix1707
      @nemergix1707 5 лет назад +2

      bc its good

    • @Shooshaq
      @Shooshaq 5 лет назад +1

      same here, we really need to crack this one, gang

    • @mrfeser1
      @mrfeser1 5 лет назад +9

      watched 30 cars videos in a row, makes perfect sense that this is in my recommended

  • @Flamo353
    @Flamo353 9 лет назад +768

    The website is still up!

    • @billnine2642
      @billnine2642 9 лет назад +9

      Flamo353 208.86.224.90 Nulled it rn LOL !!!!!!

    • @grame141
      @grame141 9 лет назад

      Not anymore :(

    • @LozJockey
      @LozJockey 9 лет назад +2

      +MechV I was just on it xD

    • @grame141
      @grame141 9 лет назад +13

      Loz Jockey It's some gardener, not the guy described in the video. Am I looking at the wrong paulandrewmitchell.com?

    • @grame141
      @grame141 9 лет назад

      Flamo353 That's confusing.. why is it about a gardener now?

  • @Admiral__
    @Admiral__ 5 лет назад +78

    "Now its huge, I provide close to a Terabyte of data" ....man we have come a long way

    • @steve88luv
      @steve88luv 5 лет назад +2

      Thats exactly what I was thinking, I have more storage than that in this PC.

    • @matzeh1985
      @matzeh1985 5 лет назад +8

      @@steve88luv But not in textfiles and pdfs, i guess.

    • @jay71512
      @jay71512 5 лет назад +21

      1Tb of text files is more than a lifetime of reading! It is huge lol

    • @Rikard_Nilsson
      @Rikard_Nilsson 5 лет назад +6

      a single A4 paper full of text (size 10) is about 5 kiloBytes of data, so that's about 200 million pages.

    • @liquidbrainstorm
      @liquidbrainstorm 5 лет назад +1

      @@steve88luv I have more storage than this on a micro sd card

  • @nicolek4076
    @nicolek4076 9 лет назад +118

    He has a good point. Even in the UK this type of thing happens. I got a claim from a debt collection agency about a lot of money that they reckoned I owed. I found out that this was normal for these people and asked them to justify their request. They never contacted me again.

    • @ketchup143
      @ketchup143 9 лет назад +16

      +Nicole K goddamn, collection agencies are the worst! just the worst! imagine having to work for one, or the kind of people that openly CHOOSE to work for one!

    • @nicolek4076
      @nicolek4076 9 лет назад +12

      +ketchup143 That's true. However, in this economic climate there are many who will put aside their moral repugnance and do the job. People have to eat, even if the means to this end are to the detriment of the naive.

    • @geroffmilan3328
      @geroffmilan3328 6 лет назад +2

      Had similar issues.
      Demanding further valudation - without proferring any additional info - usually works though, as you say.
      You might appreciate the story of LastWeekTonight buying a deal of "bad debt" in the US, mainly healthcare-related, then writing all of it off.
      Radio 4's In Business had a near-identical story some years back, where a crowd-sourced group did the same thing. Listening to the three-way chat between Peter Day, the crowd group rep & the guy from the debt collector's PR machine was priceless; the latter man was spitting nails at their business being undermined :)
      Debts need paying, but economic vampirism is deplorable.

    • @Studio23Media
      @Studio23Media 5 лет назад +1

      In America, if a debt collector contacts you, you have 30 days to ask them to validate the debt. They cannot contact you again until they can prove the legitimacy of what you owe. Often if it's a debt collector, they've bought unpaid bills in bulk and don't receive much of the information. There's always a chance it will disappear and there's no reason not to try.

    • @Biatic124
      @Biatic124 5 лет назад

      @@ketchup143 I worked in a collection agency in Canada for over 3+ years I actually enjoyed it. It helps to do the job using your brain and being helpful / understandable for the debtor.

  • @MrGeorgeFlorcus
    @MrGeorgeFlorcus 6 лет назад +10

    This might be one of the best titles to a video on RUclips I have ever seen. And this guy presents it really well. This could have been a TED Talk. Hell, this could be a book.
    I love the idea that the guy looked at "The entire internet". Yeah, I'm pretty sure even in the later 90's-early 00's that would be a tall order.

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 6 лет назад +44

    If you google the guy's name, the stories are insane, he's like the legal world's equivalent of Chris-chan

  • @TheDisabledGamersChannel
    @TheDisabledGamersChannel 6 лет назад +95

    26:46 Över a period of serveral months, time permitting, Plaintiff surveyed THE ENTIRE INTERNET" that shit made me bust out laughing, this guys that sued you is a complete nut case.

    • @Gartral
      @Gartral 6 лет назад +2

      A "Vexatious Litigant"

    • @RainbowManification
      @RainbowManification 6 лет назад +4

      He was diagnosed as having a delusional disorder during a federal tax fraud case in 2013 and declared criminally incompetent. He was sent to a prison hospital in Missouri for court-ordered treatment and spent 4 months there before being declared incurably incompetent and released.

    • @revenevan11
      @revenevan11 11 дней назад

      Damn, imagine being crazy enough that you kinda sorta get let off the hook for not paying taxes 😅
      Maybe those sovereign citizen nutjobs are really accidentally playing 4d chess 🤦‍♂️😆

  • @J0hnnieP
    @J0hnnieP 8 лет назад +13

    Probably one of the funniest yet most informative things I've listened too for months now. Kudos to you sir for being entertaining and educational.

  • @BillMBowlingIII
    @BillMBowlingIII 9 лет назад +239

    I do believe the the "Legal Mail" stamp referenced means that it is from a prison. When my brother send out legal mail from prison it has the same stamp on it so the mail room doesn't open it and read it. Just my thoughts being that the guy also had his bank account seized for failure to pay taxes.

    • @seditt5146
      @seditt5146 6 лет назад +9

      Exactly what I was thinking esp when he spoke about the forwarding agency and stuff and no returns.

    • @circu111
      @circu111 6 лет назад +6

      ​@@seditt5146 He also showed up in court to sue him, which is not a privilege inmates generally receive.

    • @seditt5146
      @seditt5146 6 лет назад +30

      @@circu111 True I thought about that but then again people are in and out of County jails regularly. He could have done a few months here and there and just been out of jail by the time the trial. I have seen people like him in there who have nothing else to do but attempt to sue or file various legal citations. They spend 10 minutes in the law library and suddenly everyones saul goodman.

    • @Ulkomaalainen
      @Ulkomaalainen 6 лет назад +12

      Actually, don't inmates get the ability to defend (or sue) stuff in court unrelated to the reason they're in? Because that's something they should be able to. Of course not in a "just go there and come back" way, and of course somebody would need to check the application for being valid, so couldn't apply in this case, but "generally" I'd say this privilege exists.

    • @seditt5146
      @seditt5146 6 лет назад +10

      @@Ulkomaalainen There is no validity check as no one would have the rights to view their legal mail other then their lawyer which in this case the guy was representing himself. Yes they have all the legal rights any normal person has in jail to sue.... defend etc.... Its to the point legal mail is regularly used to smuggle stuff into jail as no one really has the right to inspect packages completely so small amounts of contraband are smuggled in that way.

  • @valentinlance8072
    @valentinlance8072 10 лет назад +541

    What get's put on the internet stays on the internet.

  • @Anita95_original
    @Anita95_original 6 лет назад +2

    The advice to talk to people, to get others views, are so utterly critical! You need to consult friends and other people! You really do!
    I got sued by a scumbag on fabricated charges, I did not have supporting people around my, and that was tough. You have trouble defending yourself, alone.
    Wisdom: stand against bullies by having people with and around you, seek help and others will help.
    The collection of old stuff is history, and that is important and should never be allowed to be stopped due to "copyright" or other claims. Keep up the good work!

  • @datasilouk1995
    @datasilouk1995 9 лет назад +112

    I found Jason Scott really interesting to listen to and I love stories like this. I am off to find any other videos by him.

  • @YAUUN
    @YAUUN 6 лет назад +117

    Wait, he's a sovereign citizen who believes that federal law only applies in DC & on military bases & tried to use federal laws to sue you?

    • @jamescarmody4713
      @jamescarmody4713 6 лет назад +23

      Yep, and his logic is he uses the "laws of the United States without the 'United States' (federal government)". Wrap your head around that one.

    • @MattZelda
      @MattZelda 5 лет назад +5

      @@jamescarmody4713 My head has wrapped around itself and now it is condensed into a black hole.

    • @dushk0
      @dushk0 5 лет назад

      What are his other options?

    • @TheDrewker
      @TheDrewker 5 лет назад +6

      @@dushk0 Uh.... I guess his only option is to stop being a nutjob...
      If you have to use the laws of the thing which you claim has no authority, then you are acknowledging said authority. That's the problem with living in a place while pretending the laws don't apply to you. It doesn't actually work.

    • @RainbowManification
      @RainbowManification 5 лет назад +1

      That's how most SovCit's are. Laws don't apply to them but they apply to people I don't like and want to use it against them.

  • @andyphil666
    @andyphil666 10 лет назад +265

    this guy is fucking entertaining, i love him

    • @MistahJuicyBoy
      @MistahJuicyBoy 9 лет назад +12

      +andyphil666 The audience seemed so dull! He made a lot of jokes in silence

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 8 лет назад +1

      MistahJuicyBoy or they yelled out things

    • @vinzo0913
      @vinzo0913 7 лет назад +1

      Elia Meyer doesn't that sum up existence?

  • @cjeam9199
    @cjeam9199 5 лет назад +38

    Autoplay in 2019 did me a confuse when the guy said “it’s 2009 and I have to ask”.

  • @trrevv4648
    @trrevv4648 5 лет назад +3

    HOLY SHIT!
    This Guy Was Behind TextFiles?
    That Was Literally My Staple Of Websites As A Kid! Back On Dialup Sonnnn!
    Love It. Checked It Out About A Month Ago And Relived It.
    Can’t Believe It.
    Love It.
    Thank You For Making That Much Information Readily Available To Those Seeking Knowledge, Thank You My Friend!

  • @xkguy
    @xkguy 8 лет назад +14

    I'm not a DEFCON person but this guy is a good speaker and entertaining.

  • @user-10.10.
    @user-10.10. 2 года назад +5

    >I have 10 million 4chan threads
    The easiest possession of child pornography conviction the Feds will ever get

  • @MooShaka89
    @MooShaka89 6 лет назад +5

    I have no idea why this popped up on my feed but I'm very happy I spent all 32 minutes watching it

  • @joelayoub2774
    @joelayoub2774 8 лет назад +265

    That guy was arrested and thrown in jail for like 11 months and he wrote letters like the ones shown in the video daily and mailed them countless judges. They eventually released him just to shut him up. Lol

    • @JC-11111
      @JC-11111 6 лет назад +35

      That's normally how they get the "Legal Mail" stamp, also. Sent from jail or prison.

    • @professorhaystacks6606
      @professorhaystacks6606 6 лет назад +33

      So what I'm hearing is I can get out of jail early if I send crazy letters?

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 6 лет назад +17

      @@professorhaystacks6606 You might end up in the looney bin, so technically yes, you'd be out of prison.

    • @HyperSaneDemon
      @HyperSaneDemon 6 лет назад +6

      Source?

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 6 лет назад +5

      @@professorhaystacks6606 If you act crazy in jail they put you in a tiny room and blast the heat til you calm down lol. And they have psych specialized blocks in jail, its just full of schizophrenic homeless people.

  • @MartyWoodcock
    @MartyWoodcock 9 лет назад +279

    I keep getting spam email from some company saying I have unpaid toll fines. I've never been across a toll bridge or road in my life! I've even received several online summons' to appear in federal court to answer said "charges". I've never showed up and no one has officially contacted me regarding this, so I'll keep ignoring. So far, they claim I owe over $100 grand! I owe over $100 grand for crossing toll-roads I never crossed. Sounds a little bat-shit crazy to me.

    • @NetRolller3D
      @NetRolller3D 9 лет назад +114

      "Unpaid toll fines" is a well-known TeslaCrypt ransomware dropper email, so be careful. The "invoice" you get is actually a JS file for Windows Script Host, which will download and run TeslaCrypt.

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 8 лет назад +4

      Marty.R Woodcock just spam it

    • @edlingja1
      @edlingja1 7 лет назад +38

      Marty.R Woodcock
      No legal documents of any kind are sent through email unless you are requesting a copy (just a simple copy).

    • @legendaryoutcast4440
      @legendaryoutcast4440 7 лет назад +1

      Marty.R Woodcock sound like gone and fucked up, this is 2017. they can and will charge toll fees over the internet. welcome to america

    • @agustasister5624
      @agustasister5624 7 лет назад +5

      Marty.R Woodcock no ...it's a racket that has been exposed. they claim they are not being paid with files like yours and are bankrupt. they the. sell to a friend of OBAMA. ironically they are anything but....it is a constant no st maker and the land and salvage alone are more than worth what they PAY. in 90 percent of the cases not even local authorities are notified it was sold to some foreigners

  • @anonanon8995
    @anonanon8995 4 года назад +17

    Hope everyone realizes that this is still relevant today and that this can happen to them for various legal reasons.

  • @markpenrice6253
    @markpenrice6253 6 лет назад +1

    Those shovelware guys might have been profiteers, but I have to admit their shonky, leeching work was much appreciated amongst the large population of us in the early-mid 90s who had computers with CDROM drives and nearby stores with budget/shareware software racks, but no modem or other BBS/network access. Got a lot of useful or at least interesting software and somewhat diverting games out of them.
    However, you're welcome to your opinion, and I'm about as thankful for your own service with Textfiles as that's a site I've also got many hours of use out of. It's an exceptional piece of work and the time you put into it is appreciated.

  • @TheChapelx
    @TheChapelx 6 лет назад +6

    This was better than some standup specials I've seen. What a journey

  • @invntiv
    @invntiv 6 лет назад +1

    I will be watching every single minute of Jason Scott content I can find after finding his incredible DefCon talks.

  • @arasb3258
    @arasb3258 7 лет назад +15

    This was a farked up scam attempt. Everyone, please don't give a penny to these scammers who use fear to steal from innocent people, their hard-earned money that we spent our precious time earning. It just encourages them. Maybe a little extreme, but it would be better to burn your money, then give it to these thieves. I'm glad Jason got the support and help needed to stand up to this insanity. Wish I could help.

    • @peter_smyth
      @peter_smyth 6 лет назад

      Why give the thieves the money after it's been burned?

    • @poppers7317
      @poppers7317 6 лет назад

      So when someone's asking me for several billion dollar for some made up nonsense I shouldn't give him the money?
      Good to know!

  • @ensigncook432
    @ensigncook432 7 лет назад +10

    Such a good talk. I love it when smart people have something interesting to say and are good at saying it

  • @sock_dgram8594
    @sock_dgram8594 5 лет назад +5

    This is such a great story that I rewatch this video every few months.

  • @DanWuensch
    @DanWuensch 2 года назад +1

    Was happy to see that the site he mentions at the end is still online in all its HTTP glory

  • @V3RTiGo7
    @V3RTiGo7 8 лет назад +15

    Jesus Christ....so this is Jason. OMG I was always wondering how he's like back in the 90's!!! Amazing guy and thanks for your great "warez" back in the ol'skool days!!! :D

  • @fabiboiii
    @fabiboiii 7 лет назад +2

    I purposely chose not to watch this DefCon talk because it sounded like clickbait, watched a playlist and happened to listen for a while until I noticed what video it was. I'm so damn glad I watched it, holy cow, so interesting and hilarious!

  • @DaveJacoby
    @DaveJacoby 10 лет назад +55

    That's some world-class crazy right there.

  • @Dafoodmaster
    @Dafoodmaster 7 лет назад +15

    you archived years worth of 4chan?
    intense. i need that.

  • @khmergodhobbies
    @khmergodhobbies 8 лет назад +326

    So....you can get sued for fan fiction? Wasn't 50 shades a fanfic of twilight?

    • @ze_rubenator
      @ze_rubenator 8 лет назад +15

      Names were changed.

    • @mrpumperknuckles1631
      @mrpumperknuckles1631 7 лет назад +11

      Vandoeun Long lol 50 shades of shit was

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 6 лет назад +7

      "Official film/series/canon" is really just "expensive fan film" when you get down to it.

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 6 лет назад +19

      @@pwnmeisterage No, "official" films/series and so on pay licensing fees and royalties to the original creators, even if those creators for example just created a figure for a franchise like Star Trek. In the Next Generation series there was a character called Nicholas Lorcano (a star pilot whose father was a famous admiral and who got thrown out of Starfleet Academy), he was used in one episode and played by Robert Duncan McNeill. Originally, this character was supposed to return in Star Trek Voyager, but the creators of VOY would have had to pay royalties to the creator of Nicholas Locarno every time they used the character, so they decided against using him. Instead they created Tom Paris, a star pilot whose father was a famous admiral and who got thrown out of Starfleet Academy. And he was played by Robert Duncan McNeill.

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 6 лет назад +2

      @@MyRegardsToTheDodo Licensing fees and royalties cost money. Part of what makes it an "expensive fan film".

  • @stupidhat1779
    @stupidhat1779 5 лет назад +4

    "It was 1997, a slightly different feel to the Internet" that made me laugh it was more like another world in a galaxy far, far away.
    Great video, marvelous story.

  • @wesmatron
    @wesmatron 9 лет назад +22

    Should have played him at his own game. Wrote "Accepted for Value" on it and sent it back to him.

  • @lukefernandez3492
    @lukefernandez3492 5 лет назад +131

    Anyone else get this in their recommended in 2019?
    Edit: over 100 likes!!! My life has been fulfilled thank you so much everybody!

    • @Blind_Smithy
      @Blind_Smithy 5 лет назад +5

      Algorithms working their wonders

    • @Gormador
      @Gormador 5 лет назад +3

      This is glorious, I'm not mad it does xD

    • @brianreaver
      @brianreaver 5 лет назад +3

      yup had a good laugh though.

    • @spodula
      @spodula 5 лет назад +1

      Yup, and enjoyed it immensely..

    • @daltonwatson2058
      @daltonwatson2058 5 лет назад +2

      Yup. Idk why I clicked. It's 3:30 in the morning and I have work at 7:30. Wtf am I doing?

  • @FirstLast-fr4hb
    @FirstLast-fr4hb 6 лет назад +9

    We're citing a federal law for copyright violation of a book that says federal laws are illegitimate!
    "Dear Mister Moonbat, the law you are attempting to enforce is not actually valid, you can read all about it in this book "The Federal Zone", written by "Paul Andrew Mitchel"

  • @KC16A6
    @KC16A6 5 лет назад +2

    Really, REALLY good talk.
    It is TRUE. Bullies (legal ones abusing the law itself) WILL do all they can to scare you, to break until you give up and pay.
    Awesome presentation.

  • @mikehawk2630
    @mikehawk2630 8 лет назад +129

    Well this is just a reminder that I'm gonna hate my 15 year old fucked up self when I'm 40

    • @tsobf242
      @tsobf242 8 лет назад +1

      Mike Hawk You know, I haven't majorly regretted saying or doing anything so far. It will be interesting to see if that changes in a couple decades.

    • @SmolHatLogan
      @SmolHatLogan 8 лет назад +6

      Mike Hawk you probably won't even remember what anon is you lol

    • @bbb-si8mb
      @bbb-si8mb 7 лет назад +4

      Look on the bright side, you might not live that long.

    • @spootot
      @spootot 7 лет назад +3

      I've caught up. I hated the old me. Then I hated the a-little-while-ago me. Then I hated current me.
      Now I only hate future me. Everything else seems to be okay now. It's weird.

    • @OleTimHerr
      @OleTimHerr 7 лет назад +2

      Mike Hawk I hate the dead me. btw I was never alive

  • @bobomob111
    @bobomob111 7 лет назад

    Textfiles.com taught me about early hack/phreak culture and seriously steered the course of my life. For that I am ever thankful.

  • @redtails
    @redtails 6 лет назад +6

    In many countries, the Freedom of Information act is misused by these sorts of people to extract money when documents are not delivered on time (which is tough when thousands of documents are requested)

  • @paulnixon752
    @paulnixon752 6 лет назад +4

    Why this was recommended to me I'll never know, but I have to watch more of this guy

  • @InjectorGadget
    @InjectorGadget 9 лет назад +192

    So he basically was the first cloud service provider :)

    • @pepsiqwerty501
      @pepsiqwerty501 7 лет назад +8

      He made more of a public archive, a cloud service is private, anyone can view an archive

    • @InjectorGadget
      @InjectorGadget 7 лет назад +18

      A cloud is just a remote server you're uploading data onto... Whether said data is privately available or not doesn't change what it essentially is. :)

    • @qazwsxedcrfv4183
      @qazwsxedcrfv4183 7 лет назад +1

      Ray Guzman Cloud is just a graphical ftp: service. Its like www. means nothing either.

    • @InjectorGadget
      @InjectorGadget 7 лет назад +9

      qazwsx edcrfv No, FTP is an FTP service. To keep things simple, cloud computing is storing and accessing data and/or programs over LAN or a WAN. How you access them depends on specific needs. FTP would be ONE way to access the data, another way would be SSH, or using HTTP (via your browser) to use a program stored on the cloud, etc.

    • @XFusIOnmecha
      @XFusIOnmecha 7 лет назад +2

      Ray Guzman You know Melvin? lol

  • @dreamingforward
    @dreamingforward 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for showing me where all those awesome old BBS text files went. Your'e awesome!

  • @TheBouregard
    @TheBouregard 9 лет назад +18

    at first it felt like some advertising for his site, but after about 5 minutes of watching I couldn't stop laughing. Great talk and great site. I found a few goodies I thought lost to the void.

    • @SNCRLYTYLER
      @SNCRLYTYLER 6 лет назад +1

      Well what would he really be advertising? He doesn't even have ad's on the website so what does he have to gain/profit?

    • @geroffmilan3328
      @geroffmilan3328 6 лет назад +1

      @@SNCRLYTYLER very true dude, but Jason didn't mention that until about 5mins in I think (or am I wrong?) which kinda matches the OP's timeline.

  • @mogemulation
    @mogemulation 4 года назад

    Honestly, despite his bombastic attitude when presenting, well - anything... Jason is actually a really down-to-earth, kind-hearted guy. I had the incredible opportunity to go have dinner with him at this one bar in Stockholm some years back when he was in town to give a talk, and it was honestly one of the most moving evenings of my life. For the record, and I give him no end of credit for this, dude doesn't drink; I had my fair share of beers, while he was happily pulling on a Coca-Cola, just expounding on story after story. Amazing dude.

  • @DixyRae
    @DixyRae 10 лет назад +11

    Apparently, according to his website/resume, Mitchell is planning on upping his patent trolling game in the near future:
    Present Inventor and Provisional U.S. Patent Holder: high-speed solid-state data storage technologies

  • @paulcervenka
    @paulcervenka 6 лет назад

    Objectively one of the most fascinating, informative, and hilarious talks I have seen. Ever. EVER!!!

  • @jeremygrbj4745
    @jeremygrbj4745 8 лет назад +168

    The paul andrew mitchell website is now a landscaping website which is very random! lol

    • @kodguerrero
      @kodguerrero 8 лет назад +3

      Damn, was not expecting that xD

    • @Farmores
      @Farmores 8 лет назад +12

      I beleive this is the guy lol www.supremelaw.org/authors/mitchell/resume.htm

    • @krisoko
      @krisoko 8 лет назад +11

      www.supremelaw.org/cc/aol/index.htm
      There are later docs from Mitchell in relation to the case. He even wrote a letter to the Secretary General of the United Nations!! :D

    • @korenn9381
      @korenn9381 8 лет назад +6

      holy shit. That list of documents just goes from batshit crazy to entirely new levels. At the very bottom, there's a criminal accusation of himself towards some people for the supreme court... at least that's what I thought until I noticed that the people accused are the supreme court judges themselves!

    • @kevinbooth-
      @kevinbooth- 7 лет назад +3

      ...? "7292 CHECKMATE!, (January 14, 2004 A.D.) (.doc)"

  • @estradiolvalerate8925
    @estradiolvalerate8925 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you RUclips for recommending this absolute fucking legendary tale a merely 8 fucking years too late, granted that i only got internet in 2017 but that still means 2 whole years of everyday RUclips usage where you could have recommended it to me, i wonder what other amazing stuff i still havent been recommended

  • @JacobDalgaard
    @JacobDalgaard 10 лет назад +5

    Great speech!
    Great advice to share that with your friends, because that sure is scary, many people might settle because of the scare!

  • @inter_707
    @inter_707 4 года назад +1

    This is the best video on the internet. Period.

  • @genessab
    @genessab 8 лет назад +50

    26:32 banach tarski lawsuit

    • @sentralorigin
      @sentralorigin 8 лет назад +1

      what is banach tarski lawsuit

    • @LetztezBatallion
      @LetztezBatallion 7 лет назад +3

      It comes from the Banach-tarski gemoetric paradox, which basically tells you that you can, from a single object, create 2 other objects identical to the first one. THis is a REALLY simplified explaination of it,. so just google the thing. Like taking a rubik cube, dissasemble it, and then create 2 cubes identical to the first one.

    • @sentralorigin
      @sentralorigin 7 лет назад

      I don't understand what this concept has to do with a lawsuit or the video

    • @LetztezBatallion
      @LetztezBatallion 7 лет назад +6

      From a single instance of the possibility of triple damage payment, he instead created 2 instances of triple damage payment, thus sixfold instead of the normal triple (The smashed 3 eggs, but somehow ended with 6 eggs jason says in the video)

    • @sentralorigin
      @sentralorigin 7 лет назад

      Ah, thank you for the explanation

  • @optionsbbq
    @optionsbbq 5 лет назад +1

    Love it, stumbled on it today and couldn't stop watching...no I'm not paying you 25$

  • @nates9536
    @nates9536 7 лет назад +6

    Nothing is forgotten. The Internet is eternal

  • @markpenrice6253
    @markpenrice6253 6 лет назад +2

    Funnily enough I've run up against the milder, more subtle form of this kind of crazy before in my career and, whilst it wasn't anything quite as mad as demanding $2bn, I can certainly vouch for the advice being genuine - talk it over with other people and seek qualified help if it starts getting bad (they can only tell you to go away after all). In my case having a union to help out on the professional side, and grounded friends and family to act as a sounding board and check that I wasn't actually the one going mad was a great help.

  • @Uatemydoodle
    @Uatemydoodle 8 лет назад +109

    10 + 10 = 20.
    I love this guy XD

    • @mawillix2018
      @mawillix2018 6 лет назад +2

      Uatemydoodle 10 + 10 + 20 = 40

    • @dushk0
      @dushk0 5 лет назад

      I guess that's correct. You can't shorthand things to a point where meaning is lost/changed.

    • @storrho
      @storrho 5 лет назад

      MawilliX Wow dude epic math freestyle

  • @crimson-rk6di
    @crimson-rk6di 7 лет назад

    I stumbled across this not knowing what it is at all but for some reason kept listening to all of it....and was entertained.

  • @renakunisaki
    @renakunisaki 8 лет назад +61

    This loon later went on to become the head of the RIAA.
    (not really.)

    • @Veevslav1
      @Veevslav1 6 лет назад +1

      Was he not the founder and got fired for being crazy?

    • @klobiforpresident2254
      @klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад +1

      Record Industry Association of America?

  • @hyretech
    @hyretech 6 лет назад +1

    So happy to see the USENIX "computing systems" get scanned.

  • @nicholas_scott
    @nicholas_scott 8 лет назад +13

    he went to prison a couple years ago for this crap

  • @MrFowlancer
    @MrFowlancer 7 лет назад +12

    "I have 10 milion threads of 4chan" - I'm so wet right now

  • @BothViewPoints
    @BothViewPoints 7 лет назад +5

    LOL, very smart man and very entertaining to watch. Glad he did something with his life and it was successful.

  • @stein1885
    @stein1885 4 года назад

    I feel like nobody thanks christiaan for the amount of defcon content he uploads, kudos to you!

  • @lion123
    @lion123 7 лет назад +14

    The video has been viewed over 833 thousand times. He should really sue you for another couple billion dollars. Including 7% interest of course :D

  • @THECHAOSEMPEROR
    @THECHAOSEMPEROR 7 лет назад

    This is the first recommended video by youtube that I actually love.

  • @benjaminhessler9869
    @benjaminhessler9869 10 лет назад +25

    I fucking love how this guy explains things XD

  • @sublockdown
    @sublockdown 11 лет назад

    This guy runs textfiles, instantly has my respect, besides that he is speaking at DEFCON.

  • @torqued666
    @torqued666 8 лет назад +31

    Paul Andrew Mitchell is a Sovereign Citizen.

    • @finnelhumano6096
      @finnelhumano6096 8 лет назад +23

      AKA Crazy person

    • @therugburnz
      @therugburnz 8 лет назад +1

      Google Plus Blows Chunks we all are but only as a collective collectively

  • @koLourBlynd89
    @koLourBlynd89 12 лет назад

    Wow, this was quite informative! Not to say I've been served or had any worries of being so, but this really paints the picture of what I had already known; this country has seriously degenerated into mushy, puddy-like figures who cry at the first sign of danger or mistreatment, who become petrified at the slightest confrontation, and cause other more strongly willed people to lose their cool!

  • @ContentWithMyself
    @ContentWithMyself 7 лет назад +3

    that was awesome and so helpful and encouraging. for the little guy doing cool things this can be a very real situation in my experience.

  • @Griimnak
    @Griimnak 5 лет назад +2

    1:00 "It's 2009, just a show of hands who knows what a computer bulletin board is?"
    Wow. haha

  • @hax4dayz1
    @hax4dayz1 8 лет назад +35

    plz repost in 720p

    • @nixietubes
      @nixietubes 8 лет назад

      You can't

    • @hax4dayz1
      @hax4dayz1 8 лет назад

      lets see

    • @IMGhost589
      @IMGhost589 8 лет назад

      game'z 4 dayz No, you cant

    • @nikolaswithak
      @nikolaswithak 8 лет назад +14

      "Plz re-upload video recorded in 480p and magically make it 720p, thanks"

    • @hax4dayz1
      @hax4dayz1 8 лет назад

      Cubit lol I tried it but it dont work

  • @moth.monster
    @moth.monster 6 лет назад +2

    A terabyte was massive in 2009. Now a terabyte is barely anything. How times change, so fast...

  • @alexandriariley5209
    @alexandriariley5209 6 лет назад +4

    I just have to wonder if this video will eventually end up on his site.

  • @DanielLopez-up6os
    @DanielLopez-up6os 5 лет назад

    A classic i keep coming back to each and every-time love it.

  • @davidmcconchie3594
    @davidmcconchie3594 8 лет назад +12

    I wonder if he sued RUclips.

  • @ben-brady
    @ben-brady 2 года назад

    7:10 - Shout out to the level of enthusiasm on the guy who shouted out "incredibles 2"

  • @TheUnusualSuspect101
    @TheUnusualSuspect101 9 лет назад +3

    This has to be the most funny talk of DEFCON ever! (Y)

  • @d74g0n
    @d74g0n 9 лет назад +6

    LOOOL back dialing up BBS systems I read ONE PIECE OF EROTICA, just to see what & why the hell people had this stuff "Text Porn?" so I read it, and I was like wtf? but I was gripped cause it was ridiculous & I can't stop laughing cause I swear it was the same one, and I haven't thought about it since omg lol.

  • @theendofit
    @theendofit 9 лет назад +7

    wait.... he thinks pepole should not have to fallow any laws and the goverment should hold no power? then how can he sue for copyright? does he not understatend that by his own "laws/rules" you are 100% fair to use his matrile.

    • @DavidLeeKersey
      @DavidLeeKersey 9 лет назад +7

      +theendofit Your expecting logic for a nut job moonbat?

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 8 лет назад

      theendofit Sovereigns don't follow laws they do like, do the ones the like

  • @My2CentsWorth1
    @My2CentsWorth1 6 лет назад

    I am so happy that the presenter uploaded all of moonbat's rantings and ravings to it's own site.... that is amazing!

  • @Yamagatabr
    @Yamagatabr 9 лет назад +3

    Thank you!
    It was very informative, entertaining, and a good eye-open, especially for osmeone in my age and personality :P
    I wonder HOW MANY hours you spent reading and studying things from this lunatic, you clearly did your research, where other people may had slipped over. I wonder how you got your help on a case like this one

  • @KeithCooper-Albuquerque
    @KeithCooper-Albuquerque 6 лет назад

    Jason this is a great story on so many levels! I'm glad the case was thrown out. BTW, as you probably know by now, "With Prejudice" means that the case is final and no refiling can be made. "Without Prejudice" means that the case can be refiled. Just sayin' ...

  • @Tim-is-short
    @Tim-is-short 5 лет назад +3

    The funny thing is that, in 2019, this level of crazy is our new normal. It's now perfectly acceptable to redefine things as "your truth", and ignore (or cancel) realities that make you uncomfortable.

  • @yoymate6316
    @yoymate6316 6 лет назад

    Jason Scott is fucking awesome. His blogpost “Freedom, Justice and a Disturbingly Gaping Ass” should be a mandatory read for anyone on the Internet.

  • @steveejohnson7932
    @steveejohnson7932 6 лет назад +11

    And I thought Digital Homicide was bad

  • @Penningtontj
    @Penningtontj 6 лет назад +1

    Best description of a vexatious litigant ever.

  • @FarrakhanWolcott
    @FarrakhanWolcott 6 лет назад +6

    Oddly enough I want to check out the crazy guy's book

    • @anarchyantz1564
      @anarchyantz1564 6 лет назад +2

      Just remember to give Paul his $25 in unmarked and used bills and avoid telling the Feds as they are "all in on it" :)

  • @wtfiswiththosehandles
    @wtfiswiththosehandles 5 лет назад

    Amazingly enjoyable to watch. Gotta go to textfiles for some nostalgia...

  • @TheWarriorSongProject
    @TheWarriorSongProject 5 лет назад +2

    LOL, the BArdex Superhero looks like a slam-dunk win for infringement of Pixar's Mr. Incredible image.

    • @ViktorMartin113
      @ViktorMartin113 5 лет назад

      It looks like Mr. Incredible merged with The Flash

  • @user-mp3eq6ir5b
    @user-mp3eq6ir5b 5 лет назад +1

    Love This!
    You Owe $97 million... but... I will settle for $25 until "Next Tuesday"
    "Sovereign Citizen"