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I did ride the New Jersey from the East Coast to the West Coast in the '60's when she was sent to Nam, no real rough water. Rode the Mitchell in '64 to South Korea and hit a storm between Japan and the Philippines and as the bow went down you felt like you were floating and when rose you felt like you weigh about 3 times your weight. In '65 I discovered that Destroyers were half ship and half submarine. Rode through a storm during the night while in the Galley and a Chief was there drinking coffee and his wrist was like a gimbal and never spilled the the first drop and sayin that this storm was nothing, he said he was with Halsey when he went through a Typhoon during WWII.
@Wyatt Earp We actually flew out and landed on the Yorktown, did a bosun seat transfer underway to the Destroyer that rendezvoused with a Sub the next day and UDT's and myself attacked Paris Island, back to the Sub then to a different Destroyer then to Charleston, SC. My son made a career in the Navy and I was in the Army. He rode 3 ships and I was in the Army 13 days shy of 7 years and rode more ships than he did.
My late father served a the USS Lloyd apd 63 in WWII and he said that in high seas, the ship would be at the top of the world and then so far down all you could see was water. During the typhoons, one of these APDs was lost, never to be seen again, they were designed somewhat top heavy, making room for troops to carry in the first waves of amphibious assaults.
I had a buddy who once claimed that the only difference between a destroyer and a submarine was that a destroyer could submerge to forty feet and come back up while a sub could make it back from over four hundred! I reminded him that all ships are designed to submerge....all you have to do is punch a hole in them! That's why we refer to all surface ships as targets!
Everyone makes fun of the Coast Guard but they are in the smaller ships out in the worst weather all the time. Talk about taking a beating... I can attest.
@@ScottKenny1978 I remember my first cruise on an island class 110’ foot cutter and we had 20ft+ seas for 2 days. I couldn’t believe they let people out in that. The ship was launching off the waves and dropping into the through and slamming us around inside the super structure. The ship would just drop out from under you so you always had to be holding on to something. A few times the ship came completely out of the water including the props. It would over speed the props when it would do that and failsafes kicked in and shut off the engines. We all went to general quarters because we were floating into Cuban waters as we skirted Cuban territorial waters on our way to Gitmo. This happened what seemed like several times. We didn’t know what was wrong and did all the things we could to get it back up like changing fuel filters. Nothing like being covered in diesel fuel in rough weather below deck. 🤮 We had a couple Haitian interdictions and a drug bust during that 6-7 week cruise.
I was in the U. S. Navy and served onboard the U.S. S. Ajax AR-6 which was commissioned in early 1942 and was designed and built as a Repair ship. It was a large ship with about 75 different repair shops that could repair, restore or manufacture parts and whole components like large valves as she had a fully equipped foundry for casting items, a Carpenter shop for making patterns for making the molds for the foundry and large fleet machine shop the could machine virtually anything. Inside the fleet machine shop was a storage rack that each could hold one barrel for either a large cruiser or destroyer barrel. This ship had a top speed of only 20 knots which I saw the ship attain as we sailed from Diego Garcia to Sydney Australia in late September to early October 1980. I would have to refer to the ship's cruise book for the exact dates. During that leg of our deployment we encountered a storm where we had quite heavy seas and severe rolls of over 33 degrees. I remember the mess decks having the tables and chairs stacked up and secured with ropes. All sailors eating on the mess decks were given paper plates and plastic ware. We sat on the floor to eat. Paper cups we used for our drinks. Many people were sick from the motion of the ship, down, up, left , right, some at the same time for a few days in a row. I was able to jump up a ladder 10 rungs as the bow of the ship fell away into a deep trough between massive waves buy lightly holding onto the stainless steel handrails and jumping just as the bow fell away. Our bunks had straps used to keep you from falling out of your bunk. Some berthing compartments had bunks stacked 4 high. It was a quite an experience for a 21 year old on his first Western pacific & Indian Ocean cruise.
80's Wow! You might just be the most senior person I have ever seen on here, assuming you're not lying lol. That's awesome it's good to see the older generations getting on and interacting with younger generations.
@@Luke14616 LOL...My body say's l am in my 80's but my brain thinks it's in it's 20's.....l can no longer walk much among other things....Have a good life my young friend....An God Bless you....!
I was in a Sub in about 1979 and we were on our way from Guam to the Philippines. There was a typhoon and all the other ships were directed away except us. We would not have any problems in most cases. We receive radio messages in the blind and the messages repeated from the top of the hour for ten hours. We were approaching the 10 hour point and we were could not keep an antenna out of the water long enough to keep a radio signal. The swell was about 200 feet and at times there were 50 foot plus breakers on top of the swell. Subs are round for the most part and we were taking 30 plus degree roles and angles. We had to surfish in order to get a SATCOM broadcast long enough to get our messages. It was the only time I ever felt a sub role when we were below 400 feet.
I’m so claustrophobic, no way I could have done that duty. Even in the lower decks I’m not comfortable and always have a little bit of panic in me. I’m glad we have brave men and women who can do these jobs to keep us and our allies safe and free. Thank you for your service!
I disagree. I moved from NJ to Texas because of the politics and the way the State operates. They take from the poor and give to the poorer. But the geography of the State is beautiful. As a private pilot since the 1970s, I've flown small Cessna's, Mooney's, and other types along the NJ coast down to Cape May. I've flown up to Montauk and out to Block Island and even to Provincetown, MV, and Nantucket. The Northeastern part of the U.S. has some of the most beautiful geographical locations in our great country. N.J. is a beautiful state, but it has been run by a bunch of buffoons for decades.
@@daffidavit You are certainly right about NJ politics. I guess I need to see more of NJ to accurately judge it. I do love the mighty BB New Jersey though.
My father was on a British troop ship heading for India in early 1941. Their escort was HMS Hood. The troop ship was tossed around in the swells of an Atlantic storm but my father said HMS Hood rode right through them. Shortly thereafter the Hood left to join in the hunt for Bismarck and met its end.
British ships are generally designed for rougher waters than American ships The Waters surrounded the UK are some of the most dangerous We have to build our ships in those waters, Train our sailors in those waters. You had generations of going through that and you end up with ships with that in mind The amount of stories from WW2 where American ships were being tossed around in our waters. I remember one British ship responded " What storm" to an American ship It didn`t even hinder them
At the time of WWII, there were few, if any, commercial ships with the length, beam and mass of Hood, so it is not surprising it rode out the storm better. US ships had a requirement to pass the Panama Canal, so that limited beam until very late in WWII. The Midways, Montanas, and some of the upgraded carriers could no longer go through the canal.
Vince that`s really interesting ,as I`ve seen many a report that the Hood was half battlecruiser half sub in heavy seas ,I`ve seen the drawings of the proposed refit to Hood and the aft section was to be totally rebuilt as the Navy had complained for years about the amount of water Hood would take in during heavy seas
@@darrinslack1269 can't speak to that. My interpretation of what my father said is that HMS Hood was stable in rough seas certainly compared to the troop ship.
British carriers were designed quite differently as well, with the majority of planes inside the hangers as well as the obvious armoured deck, I wonder if that helped with keeping top weight balanced?
The USS Tang was dispatched to attack a Japanese weathership while it was heading to its patrol area. The position given turned out to be in the middle of typhoon cobra. A submarine can dive deep to avoid a storm of this magnitude. However if you're on the surface searching for your Target and then realize that you are in a typhoon you can't dive. You see when a submarine transitions from a ship to a submersible it goes through a moment of instability. Under these conditions that moment of instability could have rolled the ship like a log resulting in permanent loss of stability and loss of the ship. USS tank was forced to button up on the surface, running on the batteries and tried to maneuver to minimize the impact of waves. USS Tang was on the surface running high periscope and the periscope was submerging under the waves, meaning the waves were taller than the top of the periscope with tang on the surface. They estimated wave heights at 120 ft Plus. Tang was fortunate to get into the eye of the storm and in the relative calm there dive. They had to go blow 150 ft to minimize the role of the submarine submerged. My source for this is the bark clear the bridge by admiral retired Richard O'Kane. The ship's captain.
Admiral Richard O'Kane actually believed it was a setup because the radio intercept was sent in an old Japanese code that the Japanese figured had been broken.
As I commented in one of my other posts, my first ship was the USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65). Although I did not witness this myself, several of the sailors who had been onboard the ship for an extended period of time talked about going through storms with waves so high they were breaking on the flight deck. The Enterprise's flight deck is 90 feet above her waterline. So I would not doubt that the Tang had problems with waves higher than that. It would simply depend on how powerful the storm was and how close they were to it. By the time my Enterprise was around their ability to do weather forecasts and storm tacking was much better than it was circa WW II, and they would have been trying to either avoid the storm entirely or just make sure they only caught the edges of it.
@@minarchist1776 I was on beach det at Cubi Point so I missed it when the Coral Sea was in a storm up near Korea. We had some guys working on a radar gripe up on the forward end of the flight deck when a wave unexpectedly came over the deck. The open radome and the whole radar package got soaked with sea water. They had to remove all the components and the racks and wiring to clean them off, many hours of work. They got both an "atta-boy" for having the guts to work in those conditions and a "awe-shit" for getting the radar wet. I'm not quite sorry I missed it while I was on the beach sipping a cold San-Magoo.
If you haven't read it and know enough about sail to make sense of the language you should read "Two Years Before the Mast" a book written by a Boston man who signs on to a sailing ship to go to the Mexican California to get furs prior to the US Civil War. The first hand accounts of going through the storms around Cape Horn on a wooden sailing ship are absolutely brutal. Thanks for the read recommendation, I never think about the WW2 submarine force other than knowing they had awful torpedo problems for a long time.
Sometime around late eighties onboard USS Saratoga (CV-60) we were alerted to a 1mc announcement to come out and see what Mr and Mrs Borda’s son Mike can do today. Adm Borda was battle group commaner. When we got on deck the USS New Jersey was coming by us on the port side she fired a full broadside across our bow. One of the most impressive sights I saw in 22 years!
During Viet Nam the USS New Jersey BB-62 hit a storm. We hit it at night doing 22 knots and were in it 3 days. We took solid green water up to the 05 level. We lost both motor whale boats. It took off all starboard hand rails and replenishing lights. It pushed in the most forward starboard door going into offices country.
I came close to shipping over in the Gulf of Tonkin for orders to the New Jersey, just to see it shoot once.. Would've gotten $10k tax free bonus to boot. Was an RM2 on the USS Topeka, with an admiral aboard. Copies of every msg in the damn fleet. Figured the New Jersey was a floating gun platform, no admiral, watches wouldn't be so hectic. Anyone who's had to change a 3-ply paper roll on a 60 wpm teletype machine without stopping it knows what I'm talking about. We had 6" guns, and I thought, wow, add 10" to that, has to be something. In the Gulf, I'd go to the signal bridge to watch our 6" & 5" fire missions, sometimes from the fantail. John, could you watch the forward turrets fire on the New Jersey from the fantail, or did they clear the deck entirely.
I was on the 05 level during that storm, my director was there. Starboard lifelines gone. Some ladders gone. Vent covers gone. Starboard motor whaleboat broken in half and yes water broke over the 05 level.
I thought so also, it is not the only first hand account I've come across that references much greater losses. The historian who settles that for good is getting a good book deal no doubt
We went through a storm rounding the horn of southern Australia on a westpac in 01. The waves were coming up over the flight deck on CV-64 USS Constellation. The ocean was basically all white caps. Totally epic.
I have seen the New Jersey at sea from the ship I was on many times. She certainly seemed to be a very good sea boat and looked to behave in a far more stable manner than the little frigates and the lithe, lean destroyers that accompanied us. She cut through the waves very gracefully. I got to observe her at all different distances and in all but the worst of seas and I have to say I would much rather be aboard the New Jersey than any of those small boys during a storm.
My father was on the Monterey (CVL 26, Carrier) when it went through this storm. The planes in the hanger deck broke loose and caused a fire which seriously threatened the ship.
FWIW, about how the different ships handle various sea states: the first ship I was on was the USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65) and was assigned to V-1 (Flight Deck) division. It wasn't unusual for me to watch some of the Underway Replenishment operations the Enterprise conducted. On Enterprise's flight deck one could feel the ship pitching and rolling so gently that if one wasn't on the flight deck with a reference to the horizon one might think that the Enterprise wasn't pitching and rolling at all. Then I would observe a destroyer alongside the Enterprise doing an UNREP. And then observe that at various times the sea was either washing over the destroyer's deck almost to where her forward 5 inch gun mount was located, or conversely that her bow was pretty much completely out of the water and you could just about see her bottom. The guys on the destroyer manning the various lines and performing other duties were hanging on for dear life to anything they could grab a hold of. Meanwhile the Enterprise continued on with her gentle pitch and roll that was scarcely noticeable. Thus your argument that Halsey might not have realized how bad the storm was because the New Jersey was able to ride it so well has merit.
I was on a DDG in the mid-80’s and on a North Atlantic cruise (Ocean Safari) in ‘85 we were taking 48’ plus waves. All non-watch standers were ordered to their racks. I was on a top rack and was thrown out onto a secured scuttle. Messed me up something terrible and it was on a night that I got a full night off of the stack. At chow, the portals would be gray outside the port side and deep ocean blue on the starboard and vice versa. Once in Bremerhaven we needed serious repair work on the outside skin of the ship. All the ladders were missing, the lumber of damage control, etc. received a message that a guy had been washed off the flight deck of the Kennedy (if I remember the right carrier). Was an awesome experience and surprising thing was never getting seasick, especially being from Idaho and never seeing the ocean until the Navy. Did UNREP in the North Atlantic, during the shit show of a storm, every three days. Almost had my hand pulled through a deck pulley as my thumb caught in a ring where the lines increase in size and the ship took a massive roll and we lost the line. Chief Boats cut the line with an axe and saved my shit! Loved it all 😉😁😎
During sea trials in the Bush (CVN 77) I swear the skip looked for every storm he could find and sailed right through em. Lots of us got sick. Didn’t bother me too much till the end. I heard the destroyer that was with us a guy on the bridge broke his arm and several of the bridge crew had minor injuries. There was a photo floating around of the entire ship nearly completely submerged. I definitely wouldn’t have wanted to be on board that ship
Having served on two small boys in my career, I can truthfully say that I have walked down a passageway and literally took one step on the deck and then my next step was on the bulkhead. The most fun in foul seas was timing the pitch of the ship and going up a ladder. When you timed it just right, you kind of felt weightless going up. If you didn't time it right, you felt like you were struggling against gravity.
Hi, Ryan. I'm an Army guy (Vietnam) but did have a seasick experience when my wife and I took a cruise from NYC to Bermuda. On the return trip the engines suddenly stopped and nobody said anything for about 45 minutes. People were getting concerned. Finally the captain announced that we had stopped to allow a tropical storm to travel up the east coast and we'd swing in behind. After a couple of hours we resumed, but by now it was dusk and the forward horizon was steady lightning. Our stateroom was forward-facing and high enough up that the only thing above us was the Captain's stateroom. Even so, during the early morning hours waves were breaking over our windows. Later the crew said we'd gone through 30-foot seas. Luckily, the ship was older and built in Greece for service across the North Atlantic, unlike modern shallow-draft cruise ships. Everything on the nightstands ended up on the deck, and all the water sloshed out of the toilet bowl. I'd had a sinus infection so, yes, I was very sick. Later, when I went to the dispensary, the ship's doctor told me they had treated bone fractures during the night. I never went on another cruise! When I researched the ship's name recently, she lies at the bottom of the sea after a horrific fire in the Philippines.
When I joined the Navy I spent 3 days hugging the toilet and couldn't do anything else!!! It was one of the most miserable times of my life! Finally the pharmacy mate gave me a shot that knocked me out for 24 hours and after that I never got Sea sick again even in hurricanes!!!
I was on the USS California (CLGN36). It took me 24 hrs to adjust to sea motion each time we went out. I have lots of fun memories. I enjoy your New Jersey stories. Thanks 😊
My father went through a typhoon in 1949 on his way to Japan on a dead ship that was being towed. Everybody was praying they would survive but my dad was so seasick, he was praying for it to sink. When he came home in 52, they put him on a B29.
In the late ‘60’s while serving on the USS Hornet, we went through a typhoon in the South China Sea. Waves were 55-60 ft high. The wave period was such that the ship rode over two consecutive waves and through the third. We had the hurricane bow, but is was still dangerous in the forecastle. Not just from the violent motion throwing personnel about, but from the pounding of sea on the hawse covers. Each of the covers was 2’ x 2’ x 2”, with 8 - 1” dogs bolting the cover down. After over 15-20 hours of the pounding, the bolts sheared off and the hawse cover flew 75-80 feet and ricocheted of the after bulkhead like a b-b shot! It was being in a bell with the house cover being the ringer. It scared the hell out of me. The chief bos’n immediately cleared the forecastle.
Nimitz: "This ship that was involved in the incident in the Phillipine Sea, the USS Pittsburg?" Halsey: "The one the front fell off?" Nimitz: "Yes." Halsey: "That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point." Nimitz: "Well how is it untypical?" Halsey: "Well there are a lot of these ships going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don't want people thinking heavy cruisers aren't safe." Nimitz: "Was this heavy cruiser safe?" Halsey: "Well, I was thinking more about the other ones." Nimitz: "The ones that are safe." Halsey: "Yeah, the ones the front doesn't fall off."
That is the very first thought that came into my head when he mentioned the front of the ship "falling off". I laughed then, then laughed harder when I saw this.
I have to geek back to my video graphics days for a second and tell you just how killer that intro bumper is with the block letters masked over footage of the New Jersey in rough seas. Really captures the essence of the ship IMHO. Nice work.
I've found your channel only recently, so I have a huge backlog of videos to watch, but the story Owen Garrison told here really moves my heart. Can't imagine how terrible it was to fight enemy that you can't win against - the nature herself. Greetings from Poland, you're doing amazing job!
Imagine abandoning ship in the middle of a hurricane- massive waves breaking over you, the wind stifling any cry for help you might make, the cold water sapping your strength, all in darkness. What a nightmare those men who’s ships went down in those storms had to endure, I hope some of them managed to survive.
@@sc1338 Complete nonsense, water that is warm enough to fuel a hurricane is still cold enough to kill a person within a few hours if you are in it. Hurricanes often reach as far north as New York or farther, just because a hurricane exists doesn’t mean the water below it isn’t cold.
@@antondavis33 water temperature must be 82 degrees or higher for a cyclone to form and sustain. I call that relatively warm lol however you are correct temps can drop, but the hurricane dies quickly the colder you get. the reason hurricanes can go so far north is the Gulf Stream. No reason to get aggressive 🙃 correct me if I’m wrong
@@sc1338 Hurricanes cross entire oceans, how warm do you think the middle of the Pacific or Atlantic is? 82 degrees or warmer?Bro you are trying to make a joke about human suffering while barely understanding what you are talking about
I’ve been boating since I was 5 years old, I’m now 64 and have never been seasick.Two years ago I took my 42 foot Bristol Trawler from Syracuse NY to Jacksonville Florida single handed and spent the winter. One time on Lake Ontario it was very rough and my dog threw up and went in his crate,as soon as I pulled into the Sodus Bay inlet and the water calmed down he came out happy as a clam!
I served from 1996 to 2000 and was aboard the USS John C. Stennis CVN-74. I was on her for her first 2 deployments in 98 and 00. Both times we went to Australia after being in the Persian Gulf. Both times we went was during their winter so the seas were very rough. As we sailed down to Australia, some of the waves we were hitting were so huge they would come up over our bow and flow down the flight deck. Of course we were pitching heavily, but even so from the waterline to the flight deck was around 75 to 80ft or so, so seeing those waves come up over the bow was amazing. Walking up the ladders was a challenge too. You had to time the waves. If you tried walking up while the ship was pitching up, it felt like God had his hand on your head and was pushing down on you. If you tried when it was pitching down, it felt like you were floating up the ladder. I personally never got seasick, but know a few guys who did. Going through those seas were also the best sleep I ever got. The seas just rocked you to sleep. I miss those days. I could really feel it in my berthing space too. It was at frame 21, so very close to the bow and was on the 01 level, so just above the hanger deck or main deck. I was also right under the forward catapults, so sleeping during flight ops was a challenge til I got used to it.
During WW 2 the Queen Mary was used as a troop ship. As many as 15,000 men and their equipment would sail to Europe on each crossing. I've learned this during a tour of her. On this tour I saw a picture taken from a bomber heading to Europe of the Queen Mary almost completely submerged in a storm. Only the very top deck and the funnels were visible through the waves and spray.One of the most amazing pictures I've ever seen and, needless to say, she made it through.
To show you the amazing sealing power of Flex Seal, we replaced the bottom of this Iowa Class Battleship with 2000 screen doors! Love your channel and passion for keeping such an incredible part of our history alive!
I was in a typhoon in 1983 (IIRC) in the South China Sea while deployed to USS David R Ray, a Spruance destroyer. The DESRON commander was on board and we were scheduled to participate in Exercise Cobra Gold in the Gulf of Thailand. We were in Hong Kong on a port visit and there were reports of a typhoon in the SCS. Of course, the DESRON commander was NOT going to miss the exercise, so off we went. As we departed Hong Kong, we were already taking heavy rolls and we weren't even close to the storm. When we were in the storm, one night I headed to chow. To get there I walked the long passageway on the first deck that led directly to the mess decks. That was my first exposure to the storm. I literally walked most of that passageway on the bulkhead. We would roll many degrees and the ship would just hang there. Best thing about chow in a typhoon? Not much of a line. Ha! After chow, I had to go up to the Main Deck. I took my first step to go up a ladder and all of a sudden I found myself at the top of the ladder! Just as I was stepping up onto the first step, the ship dropped into a trough and boom! top of the ladder. What if the ladder had been oriented in the opposite direction? The weight of the ship would have come down on my head I would think and I wouldn't be writing this right now. I did get a chance to see what the seas were like outside the skin of the ship. It still makes me shudder to think of what it would have been like to fall overboard in such seas. The most incredible story I ever read about a ship in a typhoon was that of USS Dewey in Typhoon Cobra. They took an almost 90 degree roll! My Lord! Now THAT'S a sea story!
I was in the Vietnam War Zone three times. Twice it was on the U.S.S. Cogswell, DD-651, which was one of the last WWII Fletcher class destroyers still in commission. She was never Frammed, and still had an open bridge. We went through several bad storms in the Pacific, and during one storm we were taking 53 degree rolls. She was designed in 1943 to take a maximum 56 degree roll befor capsizing. But that was well before a lot of top heavy electronics were added. The metacenter was never recalculated, so we didn't know for sure at what point she would capsize, but we knew for sure it was going to be less than the original maximum of 56 degrees. That storm lasted three days, and for three days we watched as the inclinometer on the bridge continually hit 53 degrees. We had our hearts in our throats for three straight days. I was the Main Propulsion Officer at the time, and I knew how close we were to rolling over. To this day, I have no interest in even going out on a rowboat on a small lake.
Learned so much from this channel. I’ve thought about the effects of storms on the Navy. Seeing the footage of the storms slamming into these ships is unbelievable.
I was on a destroyer in 1968(USS Fechteler DD870). On my first weekend cruise out of Long Beach, we were off Catalina Island. I was an ET. The chief asked me to read some numbers on the multimeter. I said as well as I could that if I opened my mouth any further I would throw up. He said to go out and throw up over the side and get someone else to help him. After that I never became seasick but I did get angry when you were being thrown around and could not control your body movements. At 6'6" I found that steel doesn't give when you hit your head on it. Once we were taking almost 40 degree rolls on the edge of a typhoon. Some guys never got used to it but crackers that were always available on the mess deck helped them a bit.
I grew up on the east end of Long Island, New York, where for several years I commercial lobstered during the summers prior to joining the Navy. The first time out each summer the running joke was about getting sick when you opened up that first bait barrel of the season. Lobsters eat decaying fish, so imagine the smell as you cracked open a 30 gallon barrel of rotting fish on a hot summer's day. Then having to reach your arm fully into the barrel, your face just inches away from the opening, to grab some bait while the boat is being gently tossed about by the waves. If you didn't get sick at that point you were good to go for the season. Personally I never had a problem. Fast forward a few years later, I reported aboard the USS Badger, after completing boot camp and "A" school, where she was in drydock at Pearl Harbor. For several months the guys in my division would taunt and tease me about getting sea sick and how they were "old salts". Two in particular, one Third Class and one Second Class Petty Officer, would rib me constantly as we got closer to the day that the ship was to get underway for the first time since I had reported aboard. That day finally arrived and right after breakfast the sea and anchor detail was set. As a young Operations Specialist, I was in Combat, learning the ropes from the the Third Class mentioned above. We were still in the harbor and hadn't reached the breakwater when he started to turn green. He made a beeline to the weather deck, two water tight hatches away, in the hopes to reach the railing and get sick over the side. As he open the outer hatch, accessing the weather deck, he lost his breakfast. Hilariously, at least for me, he vomited all over the Second Class Petty Officer mentioned above, who promptly lost his own breakfast. Needless to say, I never gave them any slack about how salty they were.
Funny you should mention smells. I've worked in a couple of jobs that have involved smelly things. The two that stick out to me are preserved beef-bile and the insides of a rutting kangaroo (the boys get pretty ripe in mating season). That never bothered me. However, going at a fair clip out to Heron Island into the wind and with a 10-12 foot swell? Yup, did me in. I puked like a sick dog for most of the trip out.
Yes, seasick the first day or two after shore leave but then it stops. Then, going into a storm, sick again. Once we were moored out in Athens, Greece when the sea was rolling into shore during calm weather. Seasick then, too. A type of vertigo was also happening when we went on shore after a cruse. The land seemed to rock back and forth.
My father's heavy cruiser was in Halsey's Typhoon. She took a 46 degree roll which took the starboard airplane overboard. The bow gun tub was ripped off. Other than that, she did fine. Very few reports of sea sickness. I understand some of the carriers took 70 degree rolls. My father said they looked like billboards. As you mentioned, some DDs took 90 degree rolls which allowed seawater to enter the stack. In May 1945 she was drydocked and had her bow strengthened.
I got sick on the Coral Sea once but I don't think it was seasick as I woke up suddenly and had to barf. The berthing space was on the 03 level and as I recall, it was pretty calm. After one bout of sick in the head I was fine. Big carriers roll very slowly, it's 30 seconds or more for one cycle and while under way, and they don't roll that much. One time though, we went dead in the water out in the Molucca straight for some maintenance reason. Then she rolled! You could stand on the hanger deck and look out one of the big elevator openings which are something like 25 feet high with the deck level about 20 feet above the water and see all water, all sky, all water, all sky. A lot of shops had weight sets to do a little work out off shift. If you were doing bench presses or dumbbell presses and the bench was set up out toward the edges of the deck (mostly in the hangar bay) you had to deal with variable weight weights. If you had 50 lbs on the bar it would way 70 on the up-roll and 30 on the down-roll.
Was the ship doing a Dutch roll? If your not used to that, it will make you sick pretty quick. It affects you more in the aft or forward areas. I never did throw up, but got queasy during a couple storms we got caught in crossing the Atlantic on the GW.
Damn I can’t imagine a dude doing his max on the bench press and next thing you know the ship rolls and it makes it too heavy and then you know what happens next
Same thing on CV67, ship's store was in the bow. Going up the wave your feet were so heavy you had trouble lifting them, going down the wave you felt like you would fly off the ladder.
While serving on board USS Coral Sea 1978-1982, Went through several periods of "rough sea's and storms. Watching from Hangar Bat one looking aft, it was amusing to watch the ship "bow"a little bit,watching the sea rise through the aircraft elevator doors as the ship rolled AND climbing down trunks to the weapons magazines as the ship pitched-feeling being pulled down when pitching down and feeling being pushed up when pitching up .........the good okd days
I was on the USS Sides, FFG-14 during some rough seas when more than a third of the ship's complement was down with motion sickness. My station was in CIC, but I made my way up to the bridge, in the doorway, not actually on it, and was able to see our sister ship having her bow to the forecastle submerged in water, come roaring back up, and plunge again, over and over. While I could feel movement on our ship, it didn't feel that profound, but seeing what the seas were doing to another Perry-class frigate made me understand what was happening to ours, and I back to feel nauseous. To combat this, I left the bridge and set myself to whatever tasks I could to keep my mind busy and the nausea quickly passed. In fact, I made my way to the mess hall only to discover the seas were too rough to cook in and accepted an apple. Crunching into that led to many of the "old salts" feeling a little queasy themselves. In the above, we had recently has stabilizers installed and they worked well enough.
I was on a small sized patrol vessel, we were also going up and down, not under the waves but a wild ride. One of the crew got on the deck in front of the bridge. When the deck dropped ol Steve jumped up he went up as high as the windows on the bridge then he waved at the Captain. They say the look on his face was priceless. Oh when you're young and crazy.
Lee M. Thank you for serving on FFGs. My time was on a cruise from Everett WA. To Seattle for Seafair. My short 5 hour cruise was on ( FFG-60 USS Rodney M. Davis) I thought it so neat that they had the stern Medical Station, besides the main sickbay. The crew were super guys. They set up a Steel Beach picnic on Helicopter landing area outside Hanger. From what crew said, the FFGs. Could handle heavy weather quite well. I wish the Coast Guard had taken these FFGs. Hulls for ocean Patrols, instead of completely New built CG vessels. That just my Humble opinion on using a X Navy vessel, instead of putting them in mothballs, or giving them to other Friendly Country's. My dream super yacht would be take a FFG and make lots of heavy duty windows on her. Just think you already have a Hanger for your personal Helicopter. "O" it is fun to dream. My favorite Navy hat is the one I got from that ships stores. I just Loved the look of FFGs, So sleek Thanks again for serving on those great looking Navy ships.
There is a picture on the Queen Mary we saw during a tour of her, taken from a bomber ferrying to Europe during WW2. It shows her in a storm in the North Atlantic. She was used as a troop ship during the war and could carry 15,000 troops and equipment each crossing. This particular picture shows the waves covering the entire ship, one of the largest liners ever built at over 1,000 feet and 80,000 tons. All you could see of her is the very top and the three funnels. Amazing that the ocean can get that rough and this beautiful ship still got through.
I was aboard USS Coral Sea (CVA43) when we actually had the antennas on the angle deck dragging in the water, and the starboard catwalk on the angle deck was submerged. That was 1963 and she came back up!
As her Weapons Officer, I was in Iowa in 1985 in the vicinity of Iceland in 30-foot seas. The ship rode well with heeling about 12 degrees either side when on the best course. The main problem was the boarding seas which came aboard where the hull widened out from the narrow bow and broke the lashings on the lowest boat in the midships davits slamming them into the boat above.
My Dad was on the USS Randolph (CV-15) while it weathered Hurricane Edna in 1954. He was on watch duty on the upper superstructure when she rolled 35 degrees to port. At the moment of maximum roll, he lost the contents of his stomach. He said he observed the "bolus" fall to the flight deck below and off the far side of the ship.
You may want to brush up on the relationship between righting moment arm and center of buoyancy. I was on a Forrest Sherman class destroyer.. The maximum righting moment was at 45 degrees and while the righting arm became smaller at angles greater than 45 degrees it was still present up to 90 degrees. This means that at 45 degrees of roll you have the greatest force trying to right the vessel. In rough seas this provides a very snappy roll. I did experience both green water over the bridge (height of eye 35 ft) and rolls of 60 degrees in the North Atlantic.
I just found this channel and this is my first video. I really appreciate the casual nature and well informed take of this video. This is great! Quality content!
I spent a large part of the winter of 71-72 running back and forth across the North Atlantic on a 420’, shallow draft Electronics Survey ship. 15-20* rolling was pretty normal, and we got as bad as 45* occasionally. You got your sea legs quick or suffered. No bull, never missed a meal, but had to strap into my bunk wedged in with a life jacket to get much sleep. Ah, the good old days?
Weather is just super complex to predict especially with few observations to base forecasts on back then. It's like trying to predict the twists and turns of a river without being able to see underwater. Meteoroligists have always received a bad wrap by people who expect the future to be foretold when all they can do is give you a probably path to a storm and how fast it will move .
This is why we called them 'weather guessers'. And are jealous of their ability to be wrong 80 percent of the time and still be in a job. (JK you weather guys- its a complex task)
In 1966 while serving aboard the Alfred A Cunningham DD-752 as a Radioman one of our crew needed to be hospitalized to have his appendix removed. I was selected to operate the PRC 10 aboard the motor launch to bring him into Keelung, Taiwan ….we had to anchor out from the harbor for some reason…the following seas towards shore made the trip easy, but on the way back to the ship it was rough but I was ok…ok until we came alongside and because of the up and down movements of the launch and the steadiness of the destroyer I lost it over the side! Thank God my dentures stayed in! We were all wet and very glad to get back aboard..We all got a rum ration that I didn’t even drink.
This is the best Iowa class battleship because you can see a metal concert on the Camden Waterfront with this ship as a background! It's crazy watching a band with this warship as a background, I highly recommend it.
Gotta LOVE weather at sea - I've done serious storms and winter seas aboard Frigates to Aircraft Carriers, and the difference in the ride/safety is NOTED. One time up off Siberia - we not only took green-water over the bow on a frigate, but buried the flight deck as well - along with 20+ degrees of roll. Then again, in the Southern Ocean tween India and Australia aboard USS Kitty Hawk, we were doing transit in sea-state of 8 - barely noticed the motion on that big pig - and LAUGHED at the others who were seasick with less than 10 degrees of pitch and almost 0 roll.
As a six year old we sailed from Bayonne, NJ on the Troop Transport USNS Darby. We ran into a hurricane and we rocked and rolled. My dad kept us busy and mostly topside so we were one of the few that actually went to chow and kept it down. I learned to love the motion even when we were in our cabin as we had a porthole. The glass was closed but the deadlight was not and we watch the horizon as we rolled. There were times the sea got very close to our level as we rolled and it was a wild view.
@Derek I was a military dependent accompanying my father to his duty assignment in Headquarters Land Forces Southeastern Europe in Izmir, Turkey. Because airplanes were slow and prop driven most dependents traveled by USNS Troop Transports to postings in Europe and beyond. Because it was an accompanied tour we traveled with my father. The Darby was full of families o our journey. Our Ports of call were Casa Blanca, Tripoli, Leghorn, Naples, Athens, Istanbul and finally Izmir. At each port families disembarked for their tours of duty.
@Derek The early days were interesting. When we got to Izmir there was no commissary and the PX was a postage stamp. Every evening we had to go to the O'Club for dinner as we had no food for dinner and no refrigerator. We drank powdered milk and dowsed our cereal in it. We rode in a horse drawn carriage to the O'Club every night. Those were the days.
@@1roanstephen A good old fashioned Griswold "Turkey" for Christmas.... Sorry couldn't resist. However, Great story, just curious did you follow your dad into the military or were you done with all that and wanted something else entirely.
@@mwnciboo Both of my Grandfathers served. My dad's father was a horse cavalry officer in the 4th CAV. My Maternal Grandfather served as a volunteer ambulance driver for the French in WW I for the entire Battle of Verdun. My Father served in WW II in India, then returned to school to school and graduated in time to lead a platoon ashore at Inchon. He also got to go to Vietnam. I served 20 years in the USAF and my eldest son served a hitch in the Marines and my youngest son is an Army Ranger. It is in the blood. My Great Great Grandfather was a Navy Captain that commanded the heavy artillery in DC during the civil war.My great great great great grandfather served in the Connecticut Militia and fought at Bloody Bond, Fort Ticonderoga and Bunker Hill.
No one, but NO ONE has an office like you do. Genuine respect for what you do, and PLEASE keep making your wonderful videos. Fortune 500 CEO: I have a 1500 square foot office with windows on all four sides. Ryan Szimanski: My office has three turrets with three 16" guns, 20 5" guns, and...we'll just leave it there. Fortune 500 CEO: ...
According to some of the men that I've heard speak on storms as sea during WWII they said that usually the big ships, battleships and fleet carriers "faired pretty good, but the little tin cans (destroyers) were tossed around something fierce" to the point they burned so much fuel trying to keep up the big ships had to slow down to refuel them.
I went out fishing on a converted trawler, which was somewhat prone to roll. Went out and the swell was large, and I then went to the little galley there, and made some toasted sandwiches for myself, and put on them what was in the fridge, fish paste. Walk out eating one, and my sister looked at this, then promptly bolted to the rail to feed the fish. When she came back up i had finished, so brought her a glass of fresh water and a cloth. Lucky for me I do not get seasick or airsick easy, though I do admit to having make a few passengers on flight puke, by holding the glass of something I am drinking ( coke on one, wine on another) and keeping the liquid inside level with the rim, though the glass itself appears to be doing crazy gyrations. Had the bags handy for them, and suggested they take it with them and not leave for the flight crew to clean up. Twice in one day, the first time on a C47 flying through a storm at 8000ft, and the second on a 737 at 15000 ft above that storm. Boeing I got the last seat, at the rear, but still took the on board meal, even if I had to chase the food around on the plate, and the glass of wine had to be in hand only.
I was on the USS Iwo Jima HLP in 1969 going from Viet Nam to Philippines when we got hit by a Typhoon, hearing the props over rav due to them coming out of the water is very scary but not as scary as the sounds the hull was making - loud bangs and groans that were completely unnerving No one got any sleep that night.
We almost had The Wisconsin in Corpus Christi TX. A little later we did get the USS Lexington as our museum. I took aerial photos of the Lexington coming through the Port Aransas jetties for the last time under her own power. Love your videos.
My Dad did two North Atlantic cruises in the early 70's on a destroyer. He would strap himself into his bunk at night and wake up in the morning with bruises on his arms. All day and all night up one wave and down the other with the ship rolling from side to side. When his ship came back into port I asked him why the ladder rails connecting upper and lower decks on the exterior of the ship had all kinds of dents and bends in them. He nonchalantly said "waves"
Yup, we never really got much sleep. I was on DE 1085 at the time. A Knox class designed to have wet decks. One storm off Cape Hatteras dented and cracked the superstructure starting at 01. No door above that worked properly after that.
@@christophergallagher531 Wow. The Virginia Capes were really bad in the winter. I remember in the early 70's my Dad's ship (DDG 17) was on maneuvers with a sister ship the John King in the Virginia Capes. The weather was really bad and for some unknown reason, a junior officer opened an outer vertical hatch door. When he tried to step out the hatchway a huge wave hit the side of the ship causing the hatch to hit him with such force it killed him instantly. The USN never figured out what he thought he was doing in the first place because that's a no no in really bad weather.
On the way to Viet Nam on the USNS Geiger I got a little queasy the first couple of days out, but I was an "ossifer" so I was damned if I'd let the enlisted men see me get sick. 3 weeks later approaching Okinawa we hit the tail end of a typhoon, and I actually loved the "ride" & watching waves break over the bow.
During WW2 German submarines sent regular weather information to base by coded radio broadcasts. This regularity of sending specific standard information was of use in breaking their codes.
Yes, this combined with laziness of some enigma users gave station x the first break in the enigma code, then they were able to use the bombe machines to go through all the combinations and combined with fluent German speakers and other intelligence gathered they had access to the enigma messages and it made a big contribution, particularly in the run up to d day where they were able to determine movements and help sell the misdirection of the landing taking place at calais rather than Normandy. Of course the German navy used an extra rotor and it was harder to crack that until a submarine with enigma and code books was captured. They also broke the code used by the German High command and created the collosus computers for that, which was kept top secret after the war as the Russians were using a variation of it, so no one knew about the first computers until decades later.
I remember the troop ship heading for Vietnam, starting in Oakland, then heading up the coast to Tacoma to pick up more troops. We definitely had water going over the bow. I was sick as hell. Got some orders from somebody, but couldn't do anything. Once we got out into the Pacific it was a lovely trip, very nice seas. A very pleasant, relaxing time. Really didn't want to see land on that trip, but it did happen. Actually "hit the beach" from landing craft. We didn't know what was going on. Anyway, since then, I've "sailed" boats, 17 footers, in races in fairly stormy weather on Lake Erie and late Ontario. I just don't get sick doing that.
The most dangerous waters are in Lake Superior. Fresh water is much lighter than salt water seas and its waves can rise far more quickly while being much steeper. The Western part of Lake Superior is also more shallow. A beautiful day can quickly change into a bad one.
I Captained the Lockport and the Pittsford during the 80's on Lake Ontario, Lake Erie, the St. Lawrence Seaway, and the Erie Canal. The canal was like a bathtub, but if you had a job out on the lakes, a wind could blow up 25' waves in minutes. Plenty crewmen got seasick, but if you were lucky like me you were OK. I never succumbed to motion sickness on the water, or later, in the air. I used to be ground crew at the Geneseo 1941 Airshow at those same years, and never got airsick flying in those old warbirds. My "inner ear" treated me very kindly. Even now, in my old age, I never experience motion sickness, don' t know how it feels, and can eat the greasiest breakfasts without fear. But I sure pitied those men I commanded on the tow boats on the Lakes. You really could see them turn green around their jaws and throats, then you knew what was going to happen next and got out of the way!
A friend of mine wore a t-shirt at work, USS New Jersey, "we lob shells as big as your Chevy 26? miles." This was around 1972 or so, and he had returned from Vietnam service.
That Cruiser didn't sink it fell into a trough and the waves closed over it my dad thought it was gone but it was lifted up and was able to make way. My Dad convinced his skipper to not pump ballast and his Can didn't roll. His best friend also a chief his skipper refused to disobey the order. He and his fireroom crew went topside between the Stacks when the ship rolled he just stepped into the the ocean within a couple of minutes another TinCan came up and he was washed over its bow and was washed clear to the superstructure. A lot of the damaged ships went to Ulithi for repairs
I was twice in typhoons and they hit about 2 to 3 days out from land. We had to heave to in one of them and when we arrived at Amagasaki we were 3 feet down by the bow. The storm had stove in the anchor which raptured the anchor housing and we took 1500 tons of water which filled the entire foreward parts, right up to the fo'c'sle deckhead. We were at anchor when the chief mate and the bosun took a couple of sailors went up ot open the fo'c'sle doors and check the damage. One of the sailors took a lump hammer(10 pound hammer) and started opening the cleats on the stbd. door and the water was seeping out, which went to gushing and on the last cleat he whacked it with the hammer and the door flew open and he was washed down the deck while the others ran away! The other time was a very hairy experience, I was officer of the watch from 8 to 12 one night and the storm was raging, there was an electrical storm too and I looked ahead and saw the biggest wave I ever saw coming towards us, I called the Captain to come and have a look, he arrived fast. He took a look and whistled and said, "there's f**k all we can do about it now" it seemed to take forever to arrive and all hell broke loose, sea everywhere but we came out of it, now I know what submarines feel like. The damage was quite extensive but really only cosmetic. I went through a lot of storms at sea but those things are cruel. I was in a Hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico one time, that wqas entertaining. Those ships were 25000 ton bulk carriers from a Scottish shipping company. One more thing about those big storms is when the is coming at you and you are climbing these enormous waves, the ship sort of glides over the waves and glides towards the oncoming sea and now picking up speed. We hit the oncoming sea at about 10 knots and then all hell breaks loose and the sea has come over the fo'c'sle and as far back as number 3 crane, we had 5. The ship would be now struggling to get going but she did, the accommodation was all on the aft end of the ship and when we hit those seas the whole aft end would shake, as if in an earh quake, seriously. This went on for quite a considerable time. It was fun back then, I am an old man now and prefer watching it on youtube instead. I went to school on a square rigger. Good times when you are a young man.
Extremely informative! Thank you for posting this! My father was in the Navy from 1933-36. He was on the destroyer USS Salt Lake City where he came 2nd to the Champion of the Pacific Fleet in the feather weight class. His opponent was left handed. Dad said he went one round and woke up in the locker room! 🤭 After the Navy, he joined the army when WWII broke out. Were any of our battleships destroyed furing WWII? I almost got sick on a whale watching boat out of San Pedro, California. Swells were about 6' and a classroom full of kids and their monitors were puking everywhere. I started to feel ill, but found a perch on a wooden structure in front of the wheel house where the cool breeze hit me in the face, and I could see the horizon over the bow. Sea sickness disappeared almost immediately. Other than that, I have no memory of ever suffering motion sickness on any other craft.
Best Video in a while! I really enjoy Ryan speaking from outside instead in front of a green screen, of course weather permitting. Keep up the great work.
My Dad served in the Army in Europe in WWII. He was wounded in action on December 4th, 1944. After surgery to repair his right arm in England, he was sent back to the states on a hospital ship. He told me that was one miserable trip. TO him it seemed like one continuous bad storm for the entire trip. He was forced to stay in his bed with his right arm and part of his chest in a cast. The ship was pitching so bad the prop would come out of the water and shake the entire ship. I think this bothered him more than getting shot! I am both Air Force and MI Army National Guard. I have flown in many aircraft both military and civilian. I never got airsick even in some pretty bumpy rides. I did get vertigo once flying. A Sgt I knew that worked in the Wing Command Post asked me if I would go up with him. He had just gotten enough hours to take passengers. We took off from Grissom AFB. At my request he practiced a couple of stalls and recoveries. When we got back in the pattern at Grissom, he flew the downwind leg and made the turn onto base leg. Then he surprised me by saying the airplane is mine! I took the control yoke and both pulled back and twisted it to make the turn onto final. I may have banked a bit more than needed, but the plane held altitude. I was watching the runway come around and twisting my head to look up and left to see the compass. I knew the compass heading for the runway. This turning my head to see both gave me a strong case of vertigo. I knew that when flying an airplane, trust your instruments and not anything your body is telling you. So I ignored the vertigo and continued the turn. As we got close to the heading I focused on the compass and eased the plane back to straight and level flight. We were both shocked that when I was done, we were perfectly aligned with the center line of 2 miles of Grissom AFB runway! The first and last time I have flown an airplane!
My dad was at Pensacola during the Korean war working on night flight development. They could not understand, why planes kept disappearing in to the gulf. Finally a pilot survived. It turned out guys where seeing shrimp boat rigging lights. They thought those lights where stars. Hence they assumed they had become inverted and did not trust their instruments. Into the drink. Heros Every One.
She rolled so slow it never bothered me at all. After decommissioned I went to Tin Cans first GQ in the 5/38 MT. the Gun Gyrostablized rocked up and down (actually level stabilized) Lost my lunch after eating some crackers to have something to throw up. Better than dry heaves. LOL
These videos are great. I love this channel. Great work guys! I would love to see a video about the 16” guns. How they operate, inside the gun pits, the operating stations and how they operate from inside the gun house. Something similar to the Electric Deck video. That was really interesting. If we ever manage to be able to leave Australia again after everything settles down, I’d love to come and see you guys and have a look around your awesome ship.
10:44 That backs up how my father-in-law described destroyers rolling in the summer typhoon 1945. The funnels would touch the water and the ship would roll the other direction and funnels would touch again. Then some started to roll over and disappear. He did not know the water going down the funnels was knocking out boilers. He highly respected the guys on "the fightingest ships in the Navy" and felt terrible watching the beating the destroyers & smaller cruisers were taking. They were the perfect length/design to wallow/roll badly during a bad typhoon. My F-I-L was on a Yard Minesweeper which bobbed like a cork or fishing bobber up/down more like a roller coaster ride. Later came the kamikazes.....
I got better tolerating it on my second ship. Could be that my second ship was twice the size. Also twice as fast so we could try and out maneuver most bad weather 🤣
I was aboard Iowa in the North Atlantic in 1985 in roughly 30-foot swells. Our escort completely disappeared in the troughs at times. Iowa was taking seas over the bow, and the sailors in turret one looked down through the ventilation holes in the aft end of the turret booth to see water a foot deep sweeping across the deck. The port side whaleboat was lifted out of its cradle by the seas and smashed into the bottom of the captain's gig, and a couple of weather doors in the stbd side superstructure 01-level were damaged.
I first sailed on aircraft carriers most of my career. My first time at sea on the ENTERPRISE I got slightly ill but adjusted in a matter of hours. After that I never had a problem again, even when I sailed on the cruiser ARKANSAS (CGN 41). We sailed under Africa from the Atlantic on to Perth Australia. Despite the heavy seas, I felt fine, fairing better than some of the small ship Sailors.
I did ride the New Jersey from the East Coast to the West Coast in the '60's when she was sent to Nam, no real rough water. Rode the Mitchell in '64 to South Korea and hit a storm between Japan and the Philippines and as the bow went down you felt like you were floating and when rose you felt like you weigh about 3 times your weight.
In '65 I discovered that Destroyers were half ship and half submarine. Rode through a storm during the night while in the Galley and a Chief was there drinking coffee and his wrist was like a gimbal and never spilled the the first drop and sayin that this storm was nothing, he said he was with Halsey when he went through a Typhoon during WWII.
@Wyatt Earp We actually flew out and landed on the Yorktown, did a bosun seat transfer underway to the Destroyer that rendezvoused with a Sub the next day and UDT's and myself attacked Paris Island, back to the Sub then to a different Destroyer then to Charleston, SC.
My son made a career in the Navy and I was in the Army. He rode 3 ships and I was in the Army 13 days shy of 7 years and rode more ships than he did.
My late father served a the USS Lloyd apd 63 in WWII and he said that in high seas, the ship would be at the top of the world and then so far down all you could see was water.
During the typhoons, one of these APDs was lost, never to be seen again, they were designed somewhat top heavy, making room for troops to carry in the first waves of amphibious assaults.
I had a buddy who once claimed that the only difference between a destroyer and a submarine was that a destroyer could submerge to forty feet and come back up while a sub could make it back from over four hundred!
I reminded him that all ships are designed to submerge....all you have to do is punch a hole in them!
That's why we refer to all surface ships as targets!
@@jimsteele9975 Did you know you could used the torpedo tubes as air locks.
@@albertshumate7688 Yep....but you better be smaller than my 225 lbs......or very well oiled!
Everyone makes fun of the Coast Guard but they are in the smaller ships out in the worst weather all the time. Talk about taking a beating... I can attest.
been there, done that! ex coastie.
We talk lots of shit, but you guys are crazy!
@@ScottKenny1978 I remember my first cruise on an island class 110’ foot cutter and we had 20ft+ seas for 2 days. I couldn’t believe they let people out in that. The ship was launching off the waves and dropping into the through and slamming us around inside the super structure. The ship would just drop out from under you so you always had to be holding on to something. A few times the ship came completely out of the water including the props. It would over speed the props when it would do that and failsafes kicked in and shut off the engines. We all went to general quarters because we were floating into Cuban waters as we skirted Cuban territorial waters on our way to Gitmo. This happened what seemed like several times. We didn’t know what was wrong and did all the things we could to get it back up like changing fuel filters. Nothing like being covered in diesel fuel in rough weather below deck. 🤮
We had a couple Haitian interdictions and a drug bust during that 6-7 week cruise.
Semper Paratus ! GM 3.
Cost guard is one step above stolen valour.. it's like calling a lifeguard brave
"Storm tracking was not as good as it is today." You sir, have a talent for understatement that I have rarely heard matched.
I was in the U. S. Navy and served onboard the U.S. S. Ajax AR-6 which was commissioned in early 1942 and was designed and built as a Repair ship. It was a large ship with about 75 different repair shops that could repair, restore or manufacture parts and whole components like large valves as she had a fully equipped foundry for casting items, a Carpenter shop for making patterns for making the molds for the foundry and large fleet machine shop the could machine virtually anything. Inside the fleet machine shop was a storage rack that each could hold one barrel for either a large cruiser or destroyer barrel. This ship had a top speed of only 20 knots which I saw the ship attain as we sailed from Diego Garcia to Sydney Australia in late September to early October 1980. I would have to refer to the ship's cruise book for the exact dates. During that leg of our deployment we encountered a storm where we had quite heavy seas and severe rolls of over 33 degrees. I remember the mess decks having the tables and chairs stacked up and secured with ropes. All sailors eating on the mess decks were given paper plates and plastic ware. We sat on the floor to eat. Paper cups we used for our drinks. Many people were sick from the motion of the ship, down, up, left , right, some at the same time for a few days in a row. I was able to jump up a ladder 10 rungs as the bow of the ship fell away into a deep trough between massive waves buy lightly holding onto the stainless steel handrails and jumping just as the bow fell away. Our bunks had straps used to keep you from falling out of your bunk. Some berthing compartments had bunks stacked 4 high. It was a quite an experience for a 21 year old on his first Western pacific & Indian Ocean cruise.
Incredible story from the veteran who served with Gerald Ford
l am in my late 80's now.....This is a fine video.....l just SUB'ED To this channel....Thanks very much...!
I'm in my mid forties and I'd like to steal the battleship north carolina drive it up there and blow NJ to smithereens
@@boburwell9921 is there a fued between NJ and NC?
80's Wow! You might just be the most senior person I have ever seen on here, assuming you're not lying lol. That's awesome it's good to see the older generations getting on and interacting with younger generations.
A large silent black triangle about 300' agl with a giant white light in each corner. Something not made by man
@@Luke14616 LOL...My body say's l am in my 80's but my brain thinks it's in it's 20's.....l can no longer walk much among other things....Have a good life my young friend....An God Bless you....!
I was in a Sub in about 1979 and we were on our way from Guam to the Philippines. There was a typhoon and all the other ships were directed away except us. We would not have any problems in most cases. We receive radio messages in the blind and the messages repeated from the top of the hour for ten hours. We were approaching the 10 hour point and we were could not keep an antenna out of the water long enough to keep a radio signal. The swell was about 200 feet and at times there were 50 foot plus breakers on top of the swell. Subs are round for the most part and we were taking 30 plus degree roles and angles. We had to surfish in order to get a SATCOM broadcast long enough to get our messages. It was the only time I ever felt a sub role when we were below 400 feet.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, I found your story quite interesting.
I’m also an ex-submariner. I’ve been in storms but a cyclone. The storm scenes from The Boat are so accurate.
I’m so claustrophobic, no way I could have done that duty. Even in the lower decks I’m not comfortable and always have a little bit of panic in me. I’m glad we have brave men and women who can do these jobs to keep us and our allies safe and free. Thank you for your service!
@@karlgustov9648it's a seafaring term
That ship is by far the best thing about New Jersey.
I disagree. I moved from NJ to Texas because of the politics and the way the State operates. They take from the poor and give to the poorer. But the geography of the State is beautiful. As a private pilot since the 1970s, I've flown small Cessna's, Mooney's, and other types along the NJ coast down to Cape May. I've flown up to Montauk and out to Block Island and even to Provincetown, MV, and Nantucket. The Northeastern part of the U.S. has some of the most beautiful geographical locations in our great country. N.J. is a beautiful state, but it has been run by a bunch of buffoons for decades.
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You are certainly right about NJ politics.
I guess I need to see more of NJ to accurately judge it.
I do love the mighty BB New Jersey though.
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What about Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen??
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If anything, that makes me stand by my comment more.
My father was on a British troop ship heading for India in early 1941. Their escort was HMS Hood. The troop ship was tossed around in the swells of an Atlantic storm but my father said HMS Hood rode right through them. Shortly thereafter the Hood left to join in the hunt for Bismarck and met its end.
British ships are generally designed for rougher waters than American ships
The Waters surrounded the UK are some of the most dangerous
We have to build our ships in those waters, Train our sailors in those waters.
You had generations of going through that and you end up with ships with that in mind
The amount of stories from WW2 where American ships were being tossed around in our waters.
I remember one British ship responded " What storm" to an American ship
It didn`t even hinder them
At the time of WWII, there were few, if any, commercial ships with the length, beam and mass of Hood, so it is not surprising it rode out the storm better. US ships had a requirement to pass the Panama Canal, so that limited beam until very late in WWII. The Midways, Montanas, and some of the upgraded carriers could no longer go through the canal.
Vince that`s really interesting ,as I`ve seen many a report that the Hood was half battlecruiser half sub in heavy seas ,I`ve seen the drawings of the proposed refit to Hood and the aft section was to be totally rebuilt as the Navy had complained for years about the amount of water Hood would take in during heavy seas
@@darrinslack1269 can't speak to that. My interpretation of what my father said is that HMS Hood was stable in rough seas certainly compared to the troop ship.
British carriers were designed quite differently as well, with the majority of planes inside the hangers as well as the obvious armoured deck, I wonder if that helped with keeping top weight balanced?
The USS Tang was dispatched to attack a Japanese weathership while it was heading to its patrol area. The position given turned out to be in the middle of typhoon cobra. A submarine can dive deep to avoid a storm of this magnitude. However if you're on the surface searching for your Target and then realize that you are in a typhoon you can't dive. You see when a submarine transitions from a ship to a submersible it goes through a moment of instability. Under these conditions that moment of instability could have rolled the ship like a log resulting in permanent loss of stability and loss of the ship. USS tank was forced to button up on the surface, running on the batteries and tried to maneuver to minimize the impact of waves. USS Tang was on the surface running high periscope and the periscope was submerging under the waves, meaning the waves were taller than the top of the periscope with tang on the surface. They estimated wave heights at 120 ft Plus. Tang was fortunate to get into the eye of the storm and in the relative calm there dive. They had to go blow 150 ft to minimize the role of the submarine submerged. My source for this is the bark clear the bridge by admiral retired Richard O'Kane. The ship's captain.
And the submarine survived that beating. That's amazing.
Admiral Richard O'Kane actually believed it was a setup because the radio intercept was sent in an old Japanese code that the Japanese figured had been broken.
As I commented in one of my other posts, my first ship was the USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65). Although I did not witness this myself, several of the sailors who had been onboard the ship for an extended period of time talked about going through storms with waves so high they were breaking on the flight deck. The Enterprise's flight deck is 90 feet above her waterline. So I would not doubt that the Tang had problems with waves higher than that. It would simply depend on how powerful the storm was and how close they were to it. By the time my Enterprise was around their ability to do weather forecasts and storm tacking was much better than it was circa WW II, and they would have been trying to either avoid the storm entirely or just make sure they only caught the edges of it.
@@minarchist1776 I was on beach det at Cubi Point so I missed it when the Coral Sea was in a storm up near Korea. We had some guys working on a radar gripe up on the forward end of the flight deck when a wave unexpectedly came over the deck. The open radome and the whole radar package got soaked with sea water. They had to remove all the components and the racks and wiring to clean them off, many hours of work. They got both an "atta-boy" for having the guts to work in those conditions and a "awe-shit" for getting the radar wet. I'm not quite sorry I missed it while I was on the beach sipping a cold San-Magoo.
If you haven't read it and know enough about sail to make sense of the language you should read "Two Years Before the Mast" a book written by a Boston man who signs on to a sailing ship to go to the Mexican California to get furs prior to the US Civil War.
The first hand accounts of going through the storms around Cape Horn on a wooden sailing ship are absolutely brutal.
Thanks for the read recommendation, I never think about the WW2 submarine force other than knowing they had awful torpedo problems for a long time.
Sometime around late eighties onboard USS Saratoga (CV-60) we were alerted to a 1mc announcement to come out and see what Mr and Mrs Borda’s son Mike can do today. Adm Borda was battle group commaner. When we got on deck the USS New Jersey was coming by us on the port side she fired a full broadside across our bow. One of the most impressive sights I saw in 22 years!
During Viet Nam the USS New Jersey BB-62 hit a storm. We hit it at night doing 22 knots and were in it 3 days. We took solid green water up to the 05 level. We lost both motor whale boats. It took off all starboard hand rails and replenishing lights. It pushed in the most forward starboard door going into offices country.
Wow. What a experience. Thanks for serving
I came close to shipping over in the Gulf of Tonkin for orders to the New Jersey, just to see it shoot once.. Would've gotten $10k tax free bonus to boot. Was an RM2 on the USS Topeka, with an admiral aboard. Copies of every msg in the damn fleet. Figured the New Jersey was a floating gun platform, no admiral, watches wouldn't be so hectic. Anyone who's had to change a 3-ply paper roll on a 60 wpm teletype machine without stopping it knows what I'm talking about. We had 6" guns, and I thought, wow, add 10" to that, has to be something. In the Gulf, I'd go to the signal bridge to watch our 6" & 5" fire missions, sometimes from the fantail. John, could you watch the forward turrets fire on the New Jersey from the fantail, or did they clear the deck entirely.
I was on the 05 level during that storm, my director was there. Starboard lifelines gone. Some ladders gone. Vent covers gone. Starboard motor whaleboat broken in half and yes water broke over the 05 level.
I was there, thanks for your service!
Thank you guys for your service
Amazing to hear Mr Owen Garrison‘s recount of the storm. Thank you for keeping memory of our veterans alive.
I thought so also, it is not the only first hand account I've come across that references much greater losses.
The historian who settles that for good is getting a good book deal no doubt
We went through a storm rounding the horn of southern Australia on a westpac in 01. The waves were coming up over the flight deck on CV-64 USS Constellation. The ocean was basically all white caps. Totally epic.
I did the same twice on the USS Forrestal, on Artic circle manuvers,black water keep on rollin,rolling, over a 70ft flight deck is awesome
I have seen the New Jersey at sea from the ship I was on many times. She certainly seemed to be a very good sea boat and looked to behave in a far more stable manner than the little frigates and the lithe, lean destroyers that accompanied us. She cut through the waves very gracefully. I got to observe her at all different distances and in all but the worst of seas and I have to say I would much rather be aboard the New Jersey than any of those small boys during a storm.
My father was on the Monterey (CVL 26, Carrier) when it went through this storm. The planes in the hanger deck broke loose and caused a fire which seriously threatened the ship.
Ryan, I must say- the production quality from you and the team has improved immensely! Looking very professional! Thank you for the uploads
Agreed. Top notch content.
FWIW, about how the different ships handle various sea states: the first ship I was on was the USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65) and was assigned to V-1 (Flight Deck) division. It wasn't unusual for me to watch some of the Underway Replenishment operations the Enterprise conducted. On Enterprise's flight deck one could feel the ship pitching and rolling so gently that if one wasn't on the flight deck with a reference to the horizon one might think that the Enterprise wasn't pitching and rolling at all. Then I would observe a destroyer alongside the Enterprise doing an UNREP. And then observe that at various times the sea was either washing over the destroyer's deck almost to where her forward 5 inch gun mount was located, or conversely that her bow was pretty much completely out of the water and you could just about see her bottom. The guys on the destroyer manning the various lines and performing other duties were hanging on for dear life to anything they could grab a hold of. Meanwhile the Enterprise continued on with her gentle pitch and roll that was scarcely noticeable. Thus your argument that Halsey might not have realized how bad the storm was because the New Jersey was able to ride it so well has merit.
Wow, you were on your first ship, the enterprise, that’s a good ship
I was thinking the same thing watching the clip at 2:30. Good to be on the big ship when there's big waves.
I was on a DDG in the mid-80’s and on a North Atlantic cruise (Ocean Safari) in ‘85 we were taking 48’ plus waves. All non-watch standers were ordered to their racks. I was on a top rack and was thrown out onto a secured scuttle. Messed me up something terrible and it was on a night that I got a full night off of the stack. At chow, the portals would be gray outside the port side and deep ocean blue on the starboard and vice versa. Once in Bremerhaven we needed serious repair work on the outside skin of the ship. All the ladders were missing, the lumber of damage control, etc. received a message that a guy had been washed off the flight deck of the Kennedy (if I remember the right carrier). Was an awesome experience and surprising thing was never getting seasick, especially being from Idaho and never seeing the ocean until the Navy. Did UNREP in the North Atlantic, during the shit show of a storm, every three days. Almost had my hand pulled through a deck pulley as my thumb caught in a ring where the lines increase in size and the ship took a massive roll and we lost the line. Chief Boats cut the line with an axe and saved my shit! Loved it all 😉😁😎
During sea trials in the Bush (CVN 77) I swear the skip looked for every storm he could find and sailed right through em. Lots of us got sick. Didn’t bother me too much till the end.
I heard the destroyer that was with us a guy on the bridge broke his arm and several of the bridge crew had minor injuries.
There was a photo floating around of the entire ship nearly completely submerged. I definitely wouldn’t have wanted to be on board that ship
Having served on two small boys in my career, I can truthfully say that I have walked down a passageway and literally took one step on the deck and then my next step was on the bulkhead.
The most fun in foul seas was timing the pitch of the ship and going up a ladder. When you timed it just right, you kind of felt weightless going up. If you didn't time it right, you felt like you were struggling against gravity.
Hi, Ryan. I'm an Army guy (Vietnam) but did have a seasick experience when my wife and I took a cruise from NYC to Bermuda. On the return trip the engines suddenly stopped and nobody said anything for about 45 minutes. People were getting concerned. Finally the captain announced that we had stopped to allow a tropical storm to travel up the east coast and we'd swing in behind. After a couple of hours we resumed, but by now it was dusk and the forward horizon was steady lightning. Our stateroom was forward-facing and high enough up that the only thing above us was the Captain's stateroom. Even so, during the early morning hours waves were breaking over our windows. Later the crew said we'd gone through 30-foot seas. Luckily, the ship was older and built in Greece for service across the North Atlantic, unlike modern shallow-draft cruise ships.
Everything on the nightstands ended up on the deck, and all the water sloshed out of the toilet bowl. I'd had a sinus infection so, yes, I was very sick. Later, when I went to the dispensary, the ship's doctor told me they had treated bone fractures during the night.
I never went on another cruise!
When I researched the ship's name recently, she lies at the bottom of the sea after a horrific fire in the Philippines.
you mean the galileo galilei, or the sun vista?
@@therealtony2009 I believe those two ship went down near Singapore.
@@ut000bs one ship actually lol
When I joined the Navy I spent 3 days hugging the toilet and couldn't do anything else!!! It was one of the most miserable times of my life!
Finally the pharmacy mate gave me a shot that knocked me out for 24 hours and after that I never got Sea sick again even in hurricanes!!!
1963-1984: Galileo Galilei
1984-1990 Galileo
1990-1997 Meridian
1997-1999: Sun Vista, Caught fire and sank in the Straits of Malacca on 21 May 1999.
I was on the USS California (CLGN36). It took me 24 hrs to adjust to sea motion each time we went out. I have lots of fun memories. I enjoy your New Jersey stories. Thanks 😊
My father went through a typhoon in 1949 on his way to Japan on a dead ship that was being towed. Everybody was praying they would survive but my dad was so seasick, he was praying for it to sink. When he came home in 52, they put him on a B29.
In the late ‘60’s while serving on the USS Hornet, we went through a typhoon in the South China Sea. Waves were 55-60 ft high. The wave period was such that the ship rode over two consecutive waves and through the third. We had the hurricane bow, but is was still dangerous in the forecastle. Not just from the violent motion throwing personnel about, but from the pounding of sea on the hawse covers. Each of the covers was 2’ x 2’ x 2”, with 8 - 1” dogs bolting the cover down. After over 15-20 hours of the pounding, the bolts sheared off and the hawse cover flew 75-80 feet and ricocheted of the after bulkhead like a b-b shot! It was being in a bell with the house cover being the ringer. It scared the hell out of me. The chief bos’n immediately cleared the forecastle.
Nimitz: "This ship that was involved in the incident in the Phillipine Sea, the USS Pittsburg?"
Halsey: "The one the front fell off?"
Nimitz: "Yes."
Halsey: "That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point."
Nimitz: "Well how is it untypical?"
Halsey: "Well there are a lot of these ships going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don't want people thinking heavy cruisers aren't safe."
Nimitz: "Was this heavy cruiser safe?"
Halsey: "Well, I was thinking more about the other ones."
Nimitz: "The ones that are safe."
Halsey: "Yeah, the ones the front doesn't fall off."
That is the very first thought that came into my head when he mentioned the front of the ship "falling off". I laughed then, then laughed harder when I saw this.
No sailor, certainly no Admiral, would refer to the bow as "the front...".
I have to geek back to my video graphics days for a second and tell you just how killer that intro bumper is with the block letters masked over footage of the New Jersey in rough seas. Really captures the essence of the ship IMHO. Nice work.
I've found your channel only recently, so I have a huge backlog of videos to watch, but the story Owen Garrison told here really moves my heart. Can't imagine how terrible it was to fight enemy that you can't win against - the nature herself. Greetings from Poland, you're doing amazing job!
Imagine abandoning ship in the middle of a hurricane- massive waves breaking over you, the wind stifling any cry for help you might make, the cold water sapping your strength, all in darkness. What a nightmare those men who’s ships went down in those storms had to endure, I hope some of them managed to survive.
Trying to get in a lifeboat, in those conditions, if one was near, I can't imagine what they went through\
Well the water would be relatively warm. That’s how hurricanes maintain their strength. So that’s a plus
@@sc1338 Complete nonsense, water that is warm enough to fuel a hurricane is still cold enough to kill a person within a few hours if you are in it. Hurricanes often reach as far north as New York or farther, just because a hurricane exists doesn’t mean the water below it isn’t cold.
@@antondavis33 water temperature must be 82 degrees or higher for a cyclone to form and sustain. I call that relatively warm lol however you are correct temps can drop, but the hurricane dies quickly the colder you get. the reason hurricanes can go so far north is the Gulf Stream. No reason to get aggressive 🙃 correct me if I’m wrong
@@sc1338 Hurricanes cross entire oceans, how warm do you think the middle of the Pacific or Atlantic is? 82 degrees or warmer?Bro you are trying to make a joke about human suffering while barely understanding what you are talking about
I’ve been boating since I was 5 years old, I’m now 64 and have never been seasick.Two years ago I took my 42 foot Bristol Trawler from Syracuse NY to Jacksonville Florida single handed and spent the winter. One time on Lake Ontario it was very rough and my dog threw up and went in his crate,as soon as I pulled into the Sodus Bay inlet and the water calmed down he came out happy as a clam!
I served from 1996 to 2000 and was aboard the USS John C. Stennis CVN-74. I was on her for her first 2 deployments in 98 and 00. Both times we went to Australia after being in the Persian Gulf. Both times we went was during their winter so the seas were very rough. As we sailed down to Australia, some of the waves we were hitting were so huge they would come up over our bow and flow down the flight deck. Of course we were pitching heavily, but even so from the waterline to the flight deck was around 75 to 80ft or so, so seeing those waves come up over the bow was amazing. Walking up the ladders was a challenge too. You had to time the waves. If you tried walking up while the ship was pitching up, it felt like God had his hand on your head and was pushing down on you. If you tried when it was pitching down, it felt like you were floating up the ladder. I personally never got seasick, but know a few guys who did. Going through those seas were also the best sleep I ever got. The seas just rocked you to sleep. I miss those days. I could really feel it in my berthing space too. It was at frame 21, so very close to the bow and was on the 01 level, so just above the hanger deck or main deck. I was also right under the forward catapults, so sleeping during flight ops was a challenge til I got used to it.
During WW 2 the Queen Mary was used as a troop ship. As many as 15,000 men and their equipment would sail to Europe on each crossing. I've learned this during a tour of her. On this tour I saw a picture taken from a bomber heading to Europe of the Queen Mary almost completely submerged in a storm. Only the very top deck and the funnels were visible through the waves and spray.One of the most amazing pictures I've ever seen and, needless to say, she made it through.
Wonder if that pic is available online?
To show you the amazing sealing power of Flex Seal, we replaced the bottom of this Iowa Class Battleship with 2000 screen doors!
Love your channel and passion for keeping such an incredible part of our history alive!
I was in a typhoon in 1983 (IIRC) in the South China Sea while deployed to USS David R Ray, a Spruance destroyer. The DESRON commander was on board and we were scheduled to participate in Exercise Cobra Gold in the Gulf of Thailand. We were in Hong Kong on a port visit and there were reports of a typhoon in the SCS. Of course, the DESRON commander was NOT going to miss the exercise, so off we went.
As we departed Hong Kong, we were already taking heavy rolls and we weren't even close to the storm. When we were in the storm, one night I headed to chow. To get there I walked the long passageway on the first deck that led directly to the mess decks. That was my first exposure to the storm. I literally walked most of that passageway on the bulkhead. We would roll many degrees and the ship would just hang there. Best thing about chow in a typhoon? Not much of a line. Ha!
After chow, I had to go up to the Main Deck. I took my first step to go up a ladder and all of a sudden I found myself at the top of the ladder! Just as I was stepping up onto the first step, the ship dropped into a trough and boom! top of the ladder. What if the ladder had been oriented in the opposite direction? The weight of the ship would have come down on my head I would think and I wouldn't be writing this right now.
I did get a chance to see what the seas were like outside the skin of the ship. It still makes me shudder to think of what it would have been like to fall overboard in such seas.
The most incredible story I ever read about a ship in a typhoon was that of USS Dewey in Typhoon Cobra. They took an almost 90 degree roll! My Lord! Now THAT'S a sea story!
I was in the Vietnam War Zone three times. Twice it was on the U.S.S. Cogswell, DD-651, which was one of the last WWII Fletcher class destroyers still in commission. She was never Frammed, and still had an open bridge. We went through several bad storms in the Pacific, and during one storm we were taking 53 degree rolls. She was designed in 1943 to take a maximum 56 degree roll befor capsizing. But that was well before a lot of top heavy electronics were added. The metacenter was never recalculated, so we didn't know for sure at what point she would capsize, but we knew for sure it was going to be less than the original maximum of 56 degrees. That storm lasted three days, and for three days we watched as the inclinometer on the bridge continually hit 53 degrees. We had our hearts in our throats for three straight days. I was the Main Propulsion Officer at the time, and I knew how close we were to rolling over. To this day, I have no interest in even going out on a rowboat on a small lake.
Learned so much from this channel. I’ve thought about the effects of storms on the Navy. Seeing the footage of the storms slamming into these ships is unbelievable.
Yes I learned they charge 50 dollars to make a video. More if you want it this year.
Love those great sailors sharing what it was really like in the Pacific theater. Thank you. You are the best.
I was on a destroyer in 1968(USS Fechteler DD870). On my first weekend cruise out of Long Beach, we were off Catalina Island. I was an ET. The chief asked me to read some numbers on the multimeter. I said as well as I could that if I opened my mouth any further I would throw up. He said to go out and throw up over the side and get someone else to help him. After that I never became seasick but I did get angry when you were being thrown around and could not control your body movements. At 6'6" I found that steel doesn't give when you hit your head on it. Once we were taking almost 40 degree rolls on the edge of a typhoon. Some guys never got used to it but crackers that were always available on the mess deck helped them a bit.
I grew up on the east end of Long Island, New York, where for several years I commercial lobstered during the summers prior to joining the Navy. The first time out each summer the running joke was about getting sick when you opened up that first bait barrel of the season. Lobsters eat decaying fish, so imagine the smell as you cracked open a 30 gallon barrel of rotting fish on a hot summer's day. Then having to reach your arm fully into the barrel, your face just inches away from the opening, to grab some bait while the boat is being gently tossed about by the waves. If you didn't get sick at that point you were good to go for the season. Personally I never had a problem.
Fast forward a few years later, I reported aboard the USS Badger, after completing boot camp and "A" school, where she was in drydock at Pearl Harbor. For several months the guys in my division would taunt and tease me about getting sea sick and how they were "old salts". Two in particular, one Third Class and one Second Class Petty Officer, would rib me constantly as we got closer to the day that the ship was to get underway for the first time since I had reported aboard.
That day finally arrived and right after breakfast the sea and anchor detail was set. As a young Operations Specialist, I was in Combat, learning the ropes from the the Third Class mentioned above. We were still in the harbor and hadn't reached the breakwater when he started to turn green. He made a beeline to the weather deck, two water tight hatches away, in the hopes to reach the railing and get sick over the side. As he open the outer hatch, accessing the weather deck, he lost his breakfast. Hilariously, at least for me, he vomited all over the Second Class Petty Officer mentioned above, who promptly lost his own breakfast. Needless to say, I never gave them any slack about how salty they were.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣.
Funny you should mention smells.
I've worked in a couple of jobs that have involved smelly things. The two that stick out to me are preserved beef-bile and the insides of a rutting kangaroo (the boys get pretty ripe in mating season).
That never bothered me.
However, going at a fair clip out to Heron Island into the wind and with a 10-12 foot swell? Yup, did me in. I puked like a sick dog for most of the trip out.
Watch how Worscheter sauce is made.
@@denniss5512 What's in a bait barrel for a lobster trap basically *is* one of the ingredients of Worcestershire sauce.
I always get sick on boats, my biggest being 26 feet. Thankful I joined the army.
Yes, seasick the first day or two after shore leave but then it stops. Then, going into a storm, sick again. Once we were moored out in Athens, Greece when the sea was rolling into shore during calm weather. Seasick then, too. A type of vertigo was also happening when we went on shore after a cruse. The land seemed to rock back and forth.
That vertigo was called sea legs.
@@nickvandergragt653 I know. I should have named it. And I misspelled cruise, too.
Love reading these real stories about how guys felt with motion sicknesses.
yooo that veteran, in the beginning, gave me chills with that story o.o
My father's heavy cruiser was in Halsey's Typhoon. She took a 46 degree roll which took the starboard airplane overboard. The bow gun tub was ripped off. Other than that, she did fine. Very few reports of sea sickness.
I understand some of the carriers took 70 degree rolls. My father said they looked like billboards. As you mentioned, some DDs took 90 degree rolls which allowed seawater to enter the stack.
In May 1945 she was drydocked and had her bow strengthened.
I was a helmsman on the heavy cruiser Saint Paul in 67 & 68 when we departed Hong kong to head into a typhoon. Thank you for this program.
I got sick on the Coral Sea once but I don't think it was seasick as I woke up suddenly and had to barf. The berthing space was on the 03 level and as I recall, it was pretty calm. After one bout of sick in the head I was fine. Big carriers roll very slowly, it's 30 seconds or more for one cycle and while under way, and they don't roll that much. One time though, we went dead in the water out in the Molucca straight for some maintenance reason. Then she rolled! You could stand on the hanger deck and look out one of the big elevator openings which are something like 25 feet high with the deck level about 20 feet above the water and see all water, all sky, all water, all sky.
A lot of shops had weight sets to do a little work out off shift. If you were doing bench presses or dumbbell presses and the bench was set up out toward the edges of the deck (mostly in the hangar bay) you had to deal with variable weight weights. If you had 50 lbs on the bar it would way 70 on the up-roll and 30 on the down-roll.
Was the ship doing a Dutch roll? If your not used to that, it will make you sick pretty quick. It affects you more in the aft or forward areas. I never did throw up, but got queasy during a couple storms we got caught in crossing the Atlantic on the GW.
Damn I can’t imagine a dude doing his max on the bench press and next thing you know the ship rolls and it makes it too heavy and then you know what happens next
Same thing on CV67, ship's store was in the bow. Going up the wave your feet were so heavy you had trouble lifting them, going down the wave you felt like you would fly off the ladder.
While serving on board USS Coral Sea 1978-1982, Went through several periods of "rough sea's and storms. Watching from Hangar Bat one looking aft, it was amusing to watch the ship "bow"a little bit,watching the sea rise through the aircraft elevator doors as the ship rolled AND climbing down trunks to the weapons magazines as the ship pitched-feeling being pulled down when pitching down and feeling being pushed up when pitching up .........the good okd days
I was on the USS Sides, FFG-14 during some rough seas when more than a third of the ship's complement was down with motion sickness. My station was in CIC, but I made my way up to the bridge, in the doorway, not actually on it, and was able to see our sister ship having her bow to the forecastle submerged in water, come roaring back up, and plunge again, over and over. While I could feel movement on our ship, it didn't feel that profound, but seeing what the seas were doing to another Perry-class frigate made me understand what was happening to ours, and I back to feel nauseous. To combat this, I left the bridge and set myself to whatever tasks I could to keep my mind busy and the nausea quickly passed. In fact, I made my way to the mess hall only to discover the seas were too rough to cook in and accepted an apple. Crunching into that led to many of the "old salts" feeling a little queasy themselves. In the above, we had recently has stabilizers installed and they worked well enough.
I was on a small sized patrol vessel, we were also going up and down, not under the waves but a wild ride. One of the crew got on the deck in front of the bridge. When the deck dropped ol Steve jumped up he went up as high as the windows on the bridge then he waved at the Captain. They say the look on his face was priceless. Oh when you're young and crazy.
Lee M.
Thank you for serving on FFGs.
My time was on a cruise from Everett WA. To Seattle for Seafair. My short 5 hour cruise was on ( FFG-60 USS Rodney M. Davis) I thought it so neat that they had the stern Medical Station, besides the main sickbay.
The crew were super guys. They set up a Steel Beach picnic on Helicopter landing area outside Hanger. From what crew said, the FFGs. Could handle heavy weather quite well. I wish the Coast Guard had taken these FFGs. Hulls for ocean Patrols, instead of completely New built CG vessels. That just my Humble opinion on using a X Navy vessel, instead of putting them in mothballs, or giving them to other Friendly Country's. My dream super yacht would be take a FFG and make lots of heavy duty windows on her. Just think you already have a Hanger for your personal Helicopter. "O" it is fun to dream. My favorite Navy hat is the one I got from that ships stores. I just Loved the look of FFGs, So sleek Thanks again for serving on those great looking Navy ships.
I like the git-r-done style of these videos. No slick editing or a bunch of added entertainment stuff, just pure substance.
There is a picture on the Queen Mary we saw during a tour of her, taken from a bomber ferrying to Europe during WW2. It shows her in a storm in the North Atlantic. She was used as a troop ship during the war and could carry 15,000 troops and equipment each crossing.
This particular picture shows the waves covering the entire ship, one of the largest liners ever built at over 1,000 feet and 80,000 tons. All you could see of her is the very top and the three funnels. Amazing that the ocean can get that rough and this beautiful ship still got through.
I was aboard USS Coral Sea (CVA43) when we actually had the antennas on the angle deck dragging in the water, and the starboard catwalk on the angle deck was submerged. That was 1963 and she came back up!
As her Weapons Officer, I was in Iowa in 1985 in the vicinity of Iceland in 30-foot seas. The ship rode well with heeling about 12 degrees either side when on the best course. The main problem was the boarding seas which came aboard where the hull widened out from the narrow bow and broke the lashings on the lowest boat in the midships davits slamming them into the boat above.
We appreciate the information you provide and the all the work you guys do. Thank you.
My Dad was on the USS Randolph (CV-15) while it weathered Hurricane Edna in 1954. He was on watch duty on the upper superstructure when she rolled 35 degrees to port. At the moment of maximum roll, he lost the contents of his stomach. He said he observed the "bolus" fall to the flight deck below and off the far side of the ship.
You may want to brush up on the relationship between righting moment arm and center of buoyancy. I was on a Forrest Sherman class destroyer.. The maximum righting moment was at 45 degrees and while the righting arm became smaller at angles greater than 45 degrees it was still present up to 90 degrees. This means that at 45 degrees of roll you have the greatest force trying to right the vessel. In rough seas this provides a very snappy roll. I did experience both green water over the bridge (height of eye 35 ft) and rolls of 60 degrees in the North Atlantic.
Years ago in high school I wrote a paper on the book Halsey's Typhoon. Fantastic book, worth the read.
I have visited all eight floating battleships, and appreciate your presentation.
More later. Thanks.
I just found this channel and this is my first video. I really appreciate the casual nature and well informed take of this video. This is great! Quality content!
I spent a large part of the winter of 71-72 running back and forth across the North Atlantic on a 420’, shallow draft Electronics Survey ship. 15-20* rolling was pretty normal, and we got as bad as 45* occasionally. You got your sea legs quick or suffered. No bull, never missed a meal, but had to strap into my bunk wedged in with a life jacket to get much sleep. Ah, the good old days?
I was on the Newport News at the time. We felt bad for you guys. Chris
So the weatherman led them astray... nice to see some things never change!!
Weather is just super complex to predict especially with few observations to base forecasts on back then. It's like trying to predict the twists and turns of a river without being able to see underwater. Meteoroligists have always received a bad wrap by people who expect the future to be foretold when all they can do is give you a probably path to a storm and how fast it will move .
This is why we called them 'weather guessers'. And are jealous of their ability to be wrong 80 percent of the time and still be in a job. (JK you weather guys- its a complex task)
Good job. You did a great job of covering the subject in an interesting and informative manner. Truly, I enjoyed it. Thank you, George.
In 1966 while serving aboard the Alfred A Cunningham DD-752 as a Radioman one of our crew needed to be hospitalized to have his appendix removed. I was selected to operate the PRC 10 aboard the motor launch to
bring him into Keelung, Taiwan ….we had to anchor out from the harbor for some reason…the following seas towards shore made the trip easy, but on the way back to the ship it was rough but I was ok…ok until we came
alongside and because of the up and down movements of the launch and the steadiness of the destroyer I lost it over the side! Thank God my dentures stayed in! We were all wet and very glad to get back aboard..We all got a rum ration that I didn’t even drink.
I could watch WW2 vets talk about their experiences ALL DAY
This is the best Iowa class battleship because you can see a metal concert on the Camden Waterfront with this ship as a background! It's crazy watching a band with this warship as a background, I highly recommend it.
Gotta LOVE weather at sea - I've done serious storms and winter seas aboard Frigates to Aircraft Carriers, and the difference in the ride/safety is NOTED. One time up off Siberia - we not only took green-water over the bow on a frigate, but buried the flight deck as well - along with 20+ degrees of roll.
Then again, in the Southern Ocean tween India and Australia aboard USS Kitty Hawk, we were doing transit in sea-state of 8 - barely noticed the motion on that big pig - and LAUGHED at the others who were seasick with less than 10 degrees of pitch and almost 0 roll.
Been watching this and a few other channels on the Iowa's for a bit now and learned alot just from this video alone.
Thank you.
As a six year old we sailed from Bayonne, NJ on the Troop Transport USNS Darby. We ran into a hurricane and we rocked and rolled. My dad kept us busy and mostly topside so we were one of the few that actually went to chow and kept it down. I learned to love the motion even when we were in our cabin as we had a porthole. The glass was closed but the deadlight was not and we watch the horizon as we rolled. There were times the sea got very close to our level as we rolled and it was a wild view.
@Derek I was a military dependent accompanying my father to his duty assignment in Headquarters Land Forces Southeastern Europe in Izmir, Turkey. Because airplanes were slow and prop driven most dependents traveled by USNS Troop Transports to postings in Europe and beyond. Because it was an accompanied tour we traveled with my father. The Darby was full of families o our journey. Our Ports of call were Casa Blanca, Tripoli, Leghorn, Naples, Athens, Istanbul and finally Izmir. At each port families disembarked for their tours of duty.
@Derek The early days were interesting. When we got to Izmir there was no commissary and the PX was a postage stamp. Every evening we had to go to the O'Club for dinner as we had no food for dinner and no refrigerator. We drank powdered milk and dowsed our cereal in it. We rode in a horse drawn carriage to the O'Club every night. Those were the days.
@@1roanstephen A good old fashioned Griswold "Turkey" for Christmas.... Sorry couldn't resist. However, Great story, just curious did you follow your dad into the military or were you done with all that and wanted something else entirely.
@@mwnciboo Both of my Grandfathers served. My dad's father was a horse cavalry officer in the 4th CAV. My Maternal Grandfather served as a volunteer ambulance driver for the French in WW I for the entire Battle of Verdun. My Father served in WW II in India, then returned to school to school and graduated in time to lead a platoon ashore at Inchon. He also got to go to Vietnam. I served 20 years in the USAF and my eldest son served a hitch in the Marines and my youngest son is an Army Ranger. It is in the blood. My Great Great Grandfather was a Navy Captain that commanded the heavy artillery in DC during the civil war.My great great great great grandfather served in the Connecticut Militia and fought at Bloody Bond, Fort Ticonderoga and Bunker Hill.
I had an Uncle H Misskelley who was stationed aboard the USS Pittsburgh & experienced this Typhoon. He spoke several times about that experience.
They mention this in another video by Ryan. I think it's either in the discuss about vanguard or what the navy didn't like about the iowas
Thanks for doing these videos Ryan. So much info shared, and we get to see parts of the New Jersey and other ships.
No one, but NO ONE has an office like you do. Genuine respect for what you do, and PLEASE keep making your wonderful videos.
Fortune 500 CEO: I have a 1500 square foot office with windows on all four sides.
Ryan Szimanski: My office has three turrets with three 16" guns, 20 5" guns, and...we'll just leave it there.
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I know about that rock and rolling. Went through a couple typhoons in South China Sea in a WWII DE.
My dad, still with us, was on the Tennessee and rode out the typhoon.
Tip of the hat to him! I hope you have spent many a hour discussing this with him as the memories he must have.
Thank You for the microhpone, it really lifts the quality of these clips!
According to some of the men that I've heard speak on storms as sea during WWII they said that usually the big ships, battleships and fleet carriers "faired pretty good, but the little tin cans (destroyers) were tossed around something fierce" to the point they burned so much fuel trying to keep up the big ships had to slow down to refuel them.
I went out fishing on a converted trawler, which was somewhat prone to roll. Went out and the swell was large, and I then went to the little galley there, and made some toasted sandwiches for myself, and put on them what was in the fridge, fish paste. Walk out eating one, and my sister looked at this, then promptly bolted to the rail to feed the fish. When she came back up i had finished, so brought her a glass of fresh water and a cloth. Lucky for me I do not get seasick or airsick easy, though I do admit to having make a few passengers on flight puke, by holding the glass of something I am drinking ( coke on one, wine on another) and keeping the liquid inside level with the rim, though the glass itself appears to be doing crazy gyrations. Had the bags handy for them, and suggested they take it with them and not leave for the flight crew to clean up. Twice in one day, the first time on a C47 flying through a storm at 8000ft, and the second on a 737 at 15000 ft above that storm. Boeing I got the last seat, at the rear, but still took the on board meal, even if I had to chase the food around on the plate, and the glass of wine had to be in hand only.
I was on the USS Iwo Jima HLP in 1969 going from Viet Nam to Philippines when we got hit by a Typhoon, hearing the props over rav due to them coming out of the water is very scary but not as scary as the sounds the hull was making - loud bangs and groans that were completely unnerving No one got any sleep that night.
Well done Sir!
We almost had The Wisconsin in Corpus Christi TX. A little later we did get the USS Lexington as our museum. I took aerial photos of the Lexington coming through the Port Aransas jetties for the last time under her own power. Love your videos.
From a presentation and speech standpoint I think this was your smoothest video yet. Nicely done, entertaining, and informative.
My Dad did two North Atlantic cruises in the early 70's on a destroyer. He would strap himself into his bunk at night and wake up in the morning with bruises on his arms. All day and all night up one wave and down the other with the ship rolling from side to side. When his ship came back into port I asked him why the ladder rails connecting upper and lower decks on the exterior of the ship had all kinds of dents and bends in them. He nonchalantly said "waves"
Yup, we never really got much sleep.
I was on DE 1085 at the time.
A Knox class designed to have wet decks.
One storm off Cape Hatteras dented and cracked the superstructure starting at 01.
No door above that worked properly after that.
@@christophergallagher531 Wow. The Virginia Capes were really bad in the winter. I remember in the early 70's my Dad's ship (DDG 17) was on maneuvers with a sister ship the John King in the Virginia Capes. The weather was really bad and for some unknown reason, a junior officer opened an outer vertical hatch door. When he tried to step out the hatchway a huge wave hit the side of the ship causing the hatch to hit him with such force it killed him instantly. The USN never figured out what he thought he was doing in the first place because that's a no no in really bad weather.
On the way to Viet Nam on the USNS Geiger I got a little queasy the first couple of days out, but I was an "ossifer" so I was damned if I'd let the enlisted men see me get sick. 3 weeks later approaching Okinawa we hit the tail end of a typhoon, and I actually loved the "ride" & watching waves break over the bow.
Thank you for sharing, i was on lpd denver coming back from rimpac 90 when we broke down in mid of pacific during a storm. Semper fi
During WW2 German submarines sent regular weather information to base by coded radio broadcasts. This regularity of sending specific standard information was of use in breaking their codes.
Yes, this combined with laziness of some enigma users gave station x the first break in the enigma code, then they were able to use the bombe machines to go through all the combinations and combined with fluent German speakers and other intelligence gathered they had access to the enigma messages and it made a big contribution, particularly in the run up to d day where they were able to determine movements and help sell the misdirection of the landing taking place at calais rather than Normandy. Of course the German navy used an extra rotor and it was harder to crack that until a submarine with enigma and code books was captured. They also broke the code used by the German High command and created the collosus computers for that, which was kept top secret after the war as the Russians were using a variation of it, so no one knew about the first computers until decades later.
I remember the troop ship heading for Vietnam, starting in Oakland, then heading up the coast to Tacoma to pick up more troops. We definitely had water going over the bow. I was sick as hell. Got some orders from somebody, but couldn't do anything. Once we got out into the Pacific it was a lovely trip, very nice seas. A very pleasant, relaxing time. Really didn't want to see land on that trip, but it did happen. Actually "hit the beach" from landing craft. We didn't know what was going on. Anyway, since then, I've "sailed" boats, 17 footers, in races in fairly stormy weather on Lake Erie and late Ontario. I just don't get sick doing that.
The most dangerous waters are in Lake Superior.
Fresh water is much lighter than salt water seas and its waves can rise far more quickly while being much steeper.
The Western part of Lake Superior is also more shallow. A beautiful day can quickly change into a bad one.
I Captained the Lockport and the Pittsford during the 80's on Lake Ontario, Lake Erie, the St. Lawrence Seaway, and the Erie Canal. The canal was like a bathtub, but if you had a job out on the lakes, a wind could blow up 25' waves in minutes. Plenty crewmen got seasick, but if you were lucky like me you were OK. I never succumbed to motion sickness on the water, or later, in the air. I used to be ground crew at the Geneseo 1941 Airshow at those same years, and never got airsick flying in those old warbirds. My "inner ear" treated me very kindly. Even now, in my old age, I never experience motion sickness, don' t know how it feels, and can eat the greasiest breakfasts without fear. But I sure pitied those men I commanded on the tow boats on the Lakes. You really could see them turn green around their jaws and throats, then you knew what was going to happen next and got out of the way!
Excellent video. I learned a lot. Thank you, all veterans!
A friend of mine wore a t-shirt at work, USS New Jersey, "we lob shells as big as your Chevy 26? miles." This was around 1972 or so, and he had returned from Vietnam service.
That Cruiser didn't sink it fell into a trough and the waves closed over it my dad thought it was gone but it was lifted up and was able to make way. My Dad convinced his skipper to not pump ballast and his Can didn't roll. His best friend also a chief his skipper refused to disobey the order. He and his fireroom crew went topside between the Stacks when the ship rolled he just stepped into the the ocean within a couple of minutes another TinCan came up and he was washed over its bow and was washed clear to the superstructure. A lot of the damaged ships went to Ulithi for repairs
I was twice in typhoons and they hit about 2 to 3 days out from land. We had to heave to in one of them and when we arrived at Amagasaki we were 3 feet down by the bow. The storm had stove in the anchor which raptured the anchor housing and we took 1500 tons of water which filled the entire foreward parts, right up to the fo'c'sle deckhead. We were at anchor when the chief mate and the bosun took a couple of sailors went up ot open the fo'c'sle doors and check the damage. One of the sailors took a lump hammer(10 pound hammer) and started opening the cleats on the stbd. door and the water was seeping out, which went to gushing and on the last cleat he whacked it with the hammer and the door flew open and he was washed down the deck while the others ran away! The other time was a very hairy experience, I was officer of the watch from 8 to 12 one night and the storm was raging, there was an electrical storm too and I looked ahead and saw the biggest wave I ever saw coming towards us, I called the Captain to come and have a look, he arrived fast. He took a look and whistled and said, "there's f**k all we can do about it now" it seemed to take forever to arrive and all hell broke loose, sea everywhere but we came out of it, now I know what submarines feel like. The damage was quite extensive but really only cosmetic. I went through a lot of storms at sea but those things are cruel. I was in a Hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico one time, that wqas entertaining. Those ships were 25000 ton bulk carriers from a Scottish shipping company. One more thing about those big storms is when the is coming at you and you are climbing these enormous waves, the ship sort of glides over the waves and glides towards the oncoming sea and now picking up speed. We hit the oncoming sea at about 10 knots and then all hell breaks loose and the sea has come over the fo'c'sle and as far back as number 3 crane, we had 5. The ship would be now struggling to get going but she did, the accommodation was all on the aft end of the ship and when we hit those seas the whole aft end would shake, as if in an earh quake, seriously. This went on for quite a considerable time. It was fun back then, I am an old man now and prefer watching it on youtube instead. I went to school on a square rigger.
Good times when you are a young man.
Extremely informative! Thank you for posting this! My father was in the Navy from 1933-36. He was on the destroyer USS Salt Lake City where he came 2nd to the Champion of the Pacific Fleet in the feather weight class. His opponent was left handed. Dad said he went one round and woke up in the locker room! 🤭 After the Navy, he joined the army when WWII broke out.
Were any of our battleships destroyed furing WWII?
I almost got sick on a whale watching boat out of San Pedro, California. Swells were about 6' and a classroom full of kids and their monitors were puking everywhere. I started to feel ill, but found a perch on a wooden structure in front of the wheel house where the cool breeze hit me in the face, and I could see the horizon over the bow. Sea sickness disappeared almost immediately. Other than that, I have no memory of ever suffering motion sickness on any other craft.
Best Video in a while! I really enjoy Ryan speaking from outside instead in front of a green screen, of course weather permitting. Keep up the great work.
My Dad served in the Army in Europe in WWII. He was wounded in action on December 4th, 1944. After surgery to repair his right arm in England, he was sent back to the states on a hospital ship. He told me that was one miserable trip. TO him it seemed like one continuous bad storm for the entire trip. He was forced to stay in his bed with his right arm and part of his chest in a cast. The ship was pitching so bad the prop would come out of the water and shake the entire ship. I think this bothered him more than getting shot!
I am both Air Force and MI Army National Guard. I have flown in many aircraft both military and civilian. I never got airsick even in some pretty bumpy rides. I did get vertigo once flying.
A Sgt I knew that worked in the Wing Command Post asked me if I would go up with him. He had just gotten enough hours to take passengers. We took off from Grissom AFB. At my request he practiced a couple of stalls and recoveries. When we got back in the pattern at Grissom, he flew the downwind leg and made the turn onto base leg. Then he surprised me by saying the airplane is mine!
I took the control yoke and both pulled back and twisted it to make the turn onto final. I may have banked a bit more than needed, but the plane held altitude. I was watching the runway come around and twisting my head to look up and left to see the compass. I knew the compass heading for the runway. This turning my head to see both gave me a strong case of vertigo. I knew that when flying an airplane, trust your instruments and not anything your body is telling you. So I ignored the vertigo and continued the turn. As we got close to the heading I focused on the compass and eased the plane back to straight and level flight. We were both shocked that when I was done, we were perfectly aligned with the center line of 2 miles of Grissom AFB runway! The first and last time I have flown an airplane!
My dad was at Pensacola during the Korean war working on night flight development.
They could not understand, why planes kept disappearing in to the gulf.
Finally a pilot survived.
It turned out guys where seeing shrimp boat rigging lights.
They thought those lights where stars. Hence they assumed they had become inverted and did not trust their instruments.
Into the drink.
Heros Every One.
She rolled so slow it never bothered me at all. After decommissioned I went to Tin Cans first GQ in the 5/38 MT. the Gun Gyrostablized rocked up and down (actually level stabilized) Lost my lunch after eating some crackers to have something to throw up. Better than dry heaves. LOL
This was a GREAT video about a relatively unknown aspect of WWII. Thanks!
I love learning from this channel
I had a relative who was a Battleship Sailor (Combat) and career Navy. He said that a Battleship was the smoothest ride in the Navy.
Love the video and love the Iowa’s. Some of the USA’s best warships every built!.
These videos are great. I love this channel. Great work guys! I would love to see a video about the 16” guns. How they operate, inside the gun pits, the operating stations and how they operate from inside the gun house. Something similar to the Electric Deck video. That was really interesting. If we ever manage to be able to leave Australia again after everything settles down, I’d love to come and see you guys and have a look around your awesome ship.
I have forgotten what intelligent thought and conversation sounds like. Thank you very much.
It's official then, Flex Seal is made of Military grade materials.
"Military grade" so the crappyist lowest bidder lol?
@@crash6674 lowest bidder that meets requirements
I cracked up when Randy said Flex Seal 😀.
Now I'm wondering where the duct tape gets used 😃.
Didn’t you know?
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So Halseys meteorologist was as sharp as Beatty’s signal officer
They were both the children of the Russian spotter that saw a bunch of Japanese torpedo boats in the Baltic.
@@RD1R KAMCHATKA!! *[Throws 80th pair of binoculars into the sea]*
He might of been the best but it's hard to make forecasts without observations.
10:44 That backs up how my father-in-law described destroyers rolling in the summer typhoon 1945. The funnels would touch the water and the ship would roll the other direction and funnels would touch again. Then some started to roll over and disappear. He did not know the water going down the funnels was knocking out boilers.
He highly respected the guys on "the fightingest ships in the Navy" and felt terrible watching the beating the destroyers & smaller cruisers were taking.
They were the perfect length/design to wallow/roll badly during a bad typhoon. My F-I-L was on a Yard Minesweeper which bobbed like a cork or fishing bobber up/down more like a roller coaster ride. Later came the kamikazes.....
Far out ! I absolutely love stories like this . Thank you .
Sea-sickness has been common throughout history in sailors of all level of experience. Very few people are ever rid of it completely.
Motion sickness occurs because the body is fooled into thinking it is poisoned.
I got better tolerating it on my second ship.
Could be that my second ship was twice the size. Also twice as fast so we could try and out maneuver most bad weather 🤣
Lord Nelson was seasick every time he got underway.
Stands to reason. We're land animals--evolution never equipped us for this "ships" nonsense. :)
These videos are awesome, great work!
I was aboard Iowa in the North Atlantic in 1985 in roughly 30-foot swells. Our escort completely disappeared in the troughs at times. Iowa was taking seas over the bow, and the sailors in turret one looked down through the ventilation holes in the aft end of the turret booth to see water a foot deep sweeping across the deck. The port side whaleboat was lifted out of its cradle by the seas and smashed into the bottom of the captain's gig, and a couple of weather doors in the stbd side superstructure 01-level were damaged.
I first sailed on aircraft carriers most of my career. My first time at sea on the ENTERPRISE I got slightly ill but adjusted in a matter of hours. After that I never had a problem again, even when I sailed on the cruiser ARKANSAS (CGN 41). We sailed under Africa from the Atlantic on to Perth Australia. Despite the heavy seas, I felt fine, fairing better than some of the small ship Sailors.
I was in Perth in 1983.