I think you're underrating the gameplay value of hexwraiths. They're just so fast. If you're not charging, they're stupidly fast. Claim objectives, charge seemingly safe support heroes & deal some mortals, just fly up in front of the opponent & block their advance. Yeah they're a bit weak & chaffy, but chaff this fast is big useful. I'd put them in 'C'.
The only thing that I have noticed wrong with this video is lady olynder can use her “no rest for the wicked” trait once per battle to bring back slain models, where as nagash can use his invocation of nagash every hero phase Other than that loving it
I play 40k and AOS though I struggle to find armies I like other than slaves and nighthaunts. I just started with nighthaunts recently and they’ve been fun. This video has helped a lot with me filling in the rest of what I need.
Thanks! The tier lists take a bit longer to research and produce, but I do plan to make my way through the other factions. Just slowly....much like the next planned faction ;)
Dreadblade harrows are probably the highest game play value for 145 points. Opponent can't leave objectives unguarded and it allows you to give half your army 5 up ward, all out attack rerolls to charge etc. Funny interaction if you make awlrack your general you can teleport 3 heroes along with one unit each all around the battlefield. Very memey but not many armies could produce that kind of surprise/escape
Thank you for such an informative video! I just recently got into the hobby and I found all the info in your vid to be really helpful, especially with some of the vocabulary surrounding the game! Cheers, friend!
Thanks for going through this! I have been slow collecting Nighthaunt if my wife ever decides to play with me and this helps guide a few next step purchases
The Mortal Realms Magazines allowed you to pick up so much of these at a fair discount. I picked up Lady Olynder and Kurdoss for £8 each... Depending on your country EBay is still offering many of these sets at a fair discount. Last editions started sets were so annoying due to the incomplete unit sizes.
Yeah it was great.... I remember picking up the ethereal court for about £12 , 5 Hexwraiths for around £8 and 10 chainrasps for about £10.... Easily have around a 2000pt army for less than £100. It's good for one late rules and narrative campaigns with ghosts ect...
Mournghul yeah is kind of bad. It once was amazing, almost a must field unit, & got nerfed into the ground. I used to use a Necron Nightbringer as one a mournghul counts as, and would still be tempted to run it on occasion since that is a very cool model.
I got 3 of them mournghouls, I realy love the model. They are also a great heavy hiiter in the computer game version. That being said, this model belongs more in a flesheater court army. Swap out the 4+ unmodifiable safe for "when he causes wounds in any phase, heal that many missing wounds. Lower his points to 220ish and he should do fine. With a limit of 1 par 1000 points.
Good job, nice to have your point of view on this Nighthaunt. By any means, do you plan to do it for others armies like Skavens or Idoneths for example ? :)
You didn't cover the Sorrowmourn Choir box with Lady Olynder, 8 Myrmourn banshees and 10 dreadscythe harridans. I recommend anyone interested in starting an army to look at local stores for deals. I found the Sorrowmourn Choir box for 70 euros.
The vanguard box is nice, but it's brought down a bit by the Knight of Shrouds on foot really just being a very lackluster hero, when the competition for hero slots in this army is brutal. Olynder, kurdoss, reikenor, awlrach, cruciator, torment, guardian, executioner, dreadblade... these heroes are all amazing. Fitting a knight of shrouds in is a really tough sell. Even if you do want one, you'll want the mounted version, which is not only faster and tougher but also has a better command ability rule. So basically the vanguard box should be rated as though it didn't include a hero at all. Still a decent way to grab a bunch of battleline, especially if you want chainrasps, but personally I'd only rate it an 'A'.
You kind of lost me when you gave Spirit hosts a B and Hexwraiths a C. Spirit hosts are auto include to bodyguard your hero’s. Hexwraiths can double there move, cap objectives from across the table and can be included in bounty hunters. Both should have been A or S tier.
I'd also rate the value of the ethereal court a bit lower. The problem is the spirit torment - these heroes are good, but there's a chainghast unit meant to go with it that you'd like to have as an option, but the chainghasts are only available in a box that comes with a different, imo better, torment. There are times when you might run a torment without chainghasts, or two torments, so it's not a completely worthless inclusion, but between the torment and the mounted knight of shrouds (better than the non-mounted version, but still hard to fit in the new rules), you're basically paying a huge tax for access to your basic support wizard guardian of souls. Overall I'd call the bundle a 'B', but imo most new nighthaunt players would be better off looking to pick up just the guardian from resellers on ebay.
For a 1k game i plan on running a Warlord regiment, with Knight of Shrouds on Steed, 2 Dreadblade Harrows, a Guardian of Souls, 20-man chainrasps, and 5-man hexwraiths Knight has the Soulfire Ring and Hatred of the Living, Guardian knows Lifestealer What do we think of this list?
Looks solid/fun to me! You'll have a lot of mobility and nighthaunt in general have a lot of staying power. I'm not a super competitive player by any means but best way to get a feel for any list or army is getting games in with it
Interesting, it seems I've accidentally bought some decent models to begin building an army around and only really stumbled with the Tomb Banshee (which I bought for looks more than anything with a view to using it in a D&D game).
@@BudgetWaaagh oddly enough the Glavewraith are over the units if I combine it with Tempest. Weird. I think I'll just find those special Nighthaunt on ebay.
I think you're underrating the gameplay value of hexwraiths. They're just so fast. If you're not charging, they're stupidly fast. Claim objectives, charge seemingly safe support heroes & deal some mortals, just fly up in front of the opponent & block their advance. Yeah they're a bit weak & chaffy, but chaff this fast is big useful. I'd put them in 'C'.
Yes, this video had too much Hexwraith slander!! (I just like the models, undead horses are cool, pretty good video otherwise)
As someone that's kinda poking at Nighthaunt because the banshees look so cool, this was really a good watch.
Oddly enough, in the early days of AoS, the Mourngul was like the best unit in the game.
The only thing that I have noticed wrong with this video is lady olynder can use her “no rest for the wicked” trait once per battle to bring back slain models, where as nagash can use his invocation of nagash every hero phase
Other than that loving it
Nice work man. Helped me make some decisions about going forward with my army. Looking forward to other armies.
Same so did I
I play 40k and AOS though I struggle to find armies I like other than slaves and nighthaunts. I just started with nighthaunts recently and they’ve been fun. This video has helped a lot with me filling in the rest of what I need.
My lgs had a court of the craven king box that I picked up on a whim. Glad to know it was worth it. Thanks for the breakdown video man!
I really enjoyed watching this; before I did, I had no idea "Nighthaunt" was even a Warhammer faction! Keep up the good work.
Thanks for such a thorough run thru the list :) I love the nighthaunt army. . the overall aesthetic is fun to me.
This is an amazing video that really helped me. Now I need you to do it for all the other factions! :)
Thanks! The tier lists take a bit longer to research and produce, but I do plan to make my way through the other factions. Just slowly....much like the next planned faction ;)
Dreadblade harrows are probably the highest game play value for 145 points. Opponent can't leave objectives unguarded and it allows you to give half your army 5 up ward, all out attack rerolls to charge etc. Funny interaction if you make awlrack your general you can teleport 3 heroes along with one unit each all around the battlefield. Very memey but not many armies could produce that kind of surprise/escape
Thank you for such an informative video!
I just recently got into the hobby and I found all the info in your vid to be really helpful, especially with some of the vocabulary surrounding the game!
Cheers, friend!
I love how you also added the box sets. My LGS have a few of the older boxes in stock so I've been deciding whether to grab them
Thanks! I'm currently building the poster boys, Stormcast, but, decided I wanted to work on these guys as well. :)
woww.. This is a GREAT guide to buyers. please, make more like this with other armies
Thanks for going through this! I have been slow collecting Nighthaunt if my wife ever decides to play with me and this helps guide a few next step purchases
This channel just drops banger after banger. Can't wait for the other factions
The Mortal Realms Magazines allowed you to pick up so much of these at a fair discount. I picked up Lady Olynder and Kurdoss for £8 each... Depending on your country EBay is still offering many of these sets at a fair discount.
Last editions started sets were so annoying due to the incomplete unit sizes.
Yeah it was great.... I remember picking up the ethereal court for about £12 , 5 Hexwraiths for around £8 and 10 chainrasps for about £10.... Easily have around a 2000pt army for less than £100.
It's good for one late rules and narrative campaigns with ghosts ect...
Thanks a lot for the video, it was very helpful! Will you be doing this guides for other armys? I'd like to see one for skaven or gloomspite
This helped me so much more than you know.
great idea for a series! I'm looking forward to seeing other armies in the future!
I agree with Nagash. He doesn't looks as good as he could imo. Now thinking of getting a big plinth for the OG Nagash
Very helpful for putting together an army, subscribed!
I enjoyed this one. I’m working on Nighthaunts. I do like the Lord Executioner more than you did.
The Black Coach is essential.
Black coach is an amazing model, it's warscroll is not essential at all in the current iteration and meta. It's just not that impactful.
Mournghul yeah is kind of bad. It once was amazing, almost a must field unit, & got nerfed into the ground. I used to use a Necron Nightbringer as one a mournghul counts as, and would still be tempted to run it on occasion since that is a very cool model.
I got 3 of them mournghouls, I realy love the model. They are also a great heavy hiiter in the computer game version.
That being said, this model belongs more in a flesheater court army.
Swap out the 4+ unmodifiable safe for "when he causes wounds in any phase, heal that many missing wounds.
Lower his points to 220ish and he should do fine. With a limit of 1 par 1000 points.
Yeah since making this I have heard of people having success with them as a pretty heavy hitter,, but I stand by the model being kinda lame hahaha
Good job, nice to have your point of view on this Nighthaunt. By any means, do you plan to do it for others armies like Skavens or Idoneths for example ? :)
You didn't cover the Sorrowmourn Choir box with Lady Olynder, 8 Myrmourn banshees and 10 dreadscythe harridans. I recommend anyone interested in starting an army to look at local stores for deals. I found the Sorrowmourn Choir box for 70 euros.
Good catch!
The vanguard box is nice, but it's brought down a bit by the Knight of Shrouds on foot really just being a very lackluster hero, when the competition for hero slots in this army is brutal. Olynder, kurdoss, reikenor, awlrach, cruciator, torment, guardian, executioner, dreadblade... these heroes are all amazing. Fitting a knight of shrouds in is a really tough sell. Even if you do want one, you'll want the mounted version, which is not only faster and tougher but also has a better command ability rule.
So basically the vanguard box should be rated as though it didn't include a hero at all. Still a decent way to grab a bunch of battleline, especially if you want chainrasps, but personally I'd only rate it an 'A'.
I'm just so happy that my beloved bladeghiest revs are battleline! Off to by an INORDINATE amount of em :D
You kind of lost me when you gave Spirit hosts a B and Hexwraiths a C. Spirit hosts are auto include to bodyguard your hero’s. Hexwraiths can double there move, cap objectives from across the table and can be included in bounty hunters. Both should have been A or S tier.
Can't decide between this army and Flesheater Courts. FC are older, but some models are spectacular.
I'd also rate the value of the ethereal court a bit lower. The problem is the spirit torment - these heroes are good, but there's a chainghast unit meant to go with it that you'd like to have as an option, but the chainghasts are only available in a box that comes with a different, imo better, torment. There are times when you might run a torment without chainghasts, or two torments, so it's not a completely worthless inclusion, but between the torment and the mounted knight of shrouds (better than the non-mounted version, but still hard to fit in the new rules), you're basically paying a huge tax for access to your basic support wizard guardian of souls. Overall I'd call the bundle a 'B', but imo most new nighthaunt players would be better off looking to pick up just the guardian from resellers on ebay.
For a 1k game i plan on running a Warlord regiment, with Knight of Shrouds on Steed, 2 Dreadblade Harrows, a Guardian of Souls, 20-man chainrasps, and 5-man hexwraiths
Knight has the Soulfire Ring and Hatred of the Living, Guardian knows Lifestealer
What do we think of this list?
Looks solid/fun to me! You'll have a lot of mobility and nighthaunt in general have a lot of staying power. I'm not a super competitive player by any means but best way to get a feel for any list or army is getting games in with it
Interesting, it seems I've accidentally bought some decent models to begin building an army around and only really stumbled with the Tomb Banshee (which I bought for looks more than anything with a view to using it in a D&D game).
I managed to find the tempest of souls box at my local hobby town USA on sale for 35 bucks
I found SOul Wars at my FLGS for retail price. Now I'm thinking maybe I should get it.
@@BudgetWaaagh oddly enough the Glavewraith are over the units if I combine it with Tempest. Weird.
I think I'll just find those special Nighthaunt on ebay.
Good video
Nighthaunt are my favorite got 3000 points worth
How lame all gw dice are from a top tabletop company is ridiculous