Ok I didn't get to finish the video yesterday, just sat down and finished the rest, absolutely stellar! I don't know how you do your research but you always manage to find so much that I've never heard of. I love how you traced the ideas back to show how prevelant they've been to humans, and now I've got some new music that I'm gonna listen as well. Thank you so much for delving deeper into my suggestion!!! Also some thoughts as I was listening: most aesthetics are just labels we apply post-release as it's more of a "how does this make me feel" than a thought during creation. Definitely gets watered down when it gets hyper-specifc, but it can also allow people to find things they normally wouldn't be having an easily searchable label. It's also interesting to see art pieces having such consistency with themes, from older pieces that have spheres and eyes and abstracts, to what some people make now (albeit more horror and retro inspired today). I guess some things just stick in our brains throughout time one way or another.
Is this video even about Dreamcore? Well, not really, but that was the inciting incident to it. This video idea was suggested by @RayRaven, but it turned into something much different. It became about ten ideas pared down into a video about five or six ideas I realized where actually related (at least in my sleeping mind). Fun fact: my furnace appears in this video!
@@Pseudiom I'm not the biggest dreamer, but something I've deeply associated with dreams was the song 'Key' by Yellow Magic Orchestra. It's the "what is happening?" -> "this is happening" loop, which self-assures the dream in a way.
Completely unrelated to the actual video (I'll leave another more relevant to it later). I'm sure you've already heard, but if you haven't, Roger Nichols' daughter Cimcie has finally released two working tapes of The Second Arrangement. I was wondering what you think about them if you've heard them.
Disclaimer: I know there's some drama behind the whole situation, but I've never looked into it. I will say I'm glad people have a cleaner copy to work with! It seems like the Second Arrangement is going to be reverse engineered back into existence through the multiple copies that exist. I heard some rumors about a supposed copy that may appear on a Gaucho anniversary release, but that might all be pure rumor. I'd like for the Second Arrangement to actually be released officially, but that seems unlikely-stranger things have happened!
Yet another fantastic video with more insight into things I only had a very surface level understanding of. I actually saw someone claim that Oingo Boingo was Dreamcore once, but I don't exactly think that fits the criteria. I now need to listen to Eno.
I don’t pay much attention to aesthetics but your videos are always interesting to me and this one was no exception , and i’m definitely going to check some of the music out because minecraft goes dummy hard
I’m half a year late but this might be one of my favorite yt videos, awesome job. I just found this channel and I can’t believe it took me so long to come across it. So much quality content
This video is an absolute tour de force. I was especially happy to be introduced to Timaeus Dreams: I experienced something like this at least twice when I was a kid, at least once, I can recall clearly, when I was sick. It must have been some kind of fevre dream, since I was not asleep, but I was not fully concious either. I "dreamed" of a white space that seemed potentially infinite in one moment, for I got a sense of very long distance, but limited in the next, for I had the sense it must have been, large as it may be, walled and roofed in some way. The overall feeling I got from this was slightly nauseating, vaguely similiar to how a poorly composed picture with no clear focus seems to pierce your eyes and gives you a headache, but gentler and more aetherial. This memory weirded me out ever since; it's interesting to hear this is an old, already existing concept.
Glad to hear someone else found the concept useful. I have to credit Agora Road for introducing it to me though. I think its very useful to classify that unreal space between dreams and nightmares. I do wonder if it really is an observable psychological thing in the brain or simply psychological. I had a dream that was very similar to the "...very thin wire attached to a thick cable" in childhood and the description clicked for me.
@@Pseudiom Yeah, it would be interesting to see some serious empirical investigation into this. I find it odd that, apparently, most people who have had these dreams did so as children. Maybe it's a weird cousin of sleep paralysis?
Pseudiom, I listened to Before and After Science like you recommended, I liked it. It wasn't as weird as I thought it would be, but the songs were ethereal, a bit melancholic, otherworldly, Top of the Pops for shadow people. It's obvious these songs were composed by avant garde people who wanted to make pop, they are a nice mix of cerebral and cold with feeling and enthusiasm. It's the perfect soundtrack to have dreams with, to see beautiful shadows go by in the lonely night.
I see the oscillating sphere to spikes protruding from a central point and other geometrical shapes when I am too drunk and closing my eyes, trying to sleep before the sick. In that sense, I dread seeing them as they are a sign of having gone too far.
Damn, I had those exact same dreams when I was a kid, now I only get them when I'm sick. I didn't know it had a name. Those dreams are more likely to happen during periods of dehydration, or after recovering after prolonged alcholol use, or even when forgetting to take anti depressants or suddenly stopping them. I think it has something to do with both of those things lowering rem sleep, so when a person stops them the rem sleep come back with a vengeance. However with dehydration I'm not sure of mechanism.
Kevin Sorbo looked around at the desert of black sand, the void sky. This was not his world. The distress and fear came creeping over him like the fleet waters of a drowning world. He was...DISAPPOINTED!!
32:01 Getting close to 8 billion people alive, statistics websites report over 5 billion of them have internet access... Last I checked, US had about 350 million people. American culture tends to be seriously American-centric, as in closed off to outside influences and genuinely and generally unaware of them, but no. The US is not most of the internet.
Cultural note for the author. As a porteño, Borges would pronounce pesadilla as pesadisha. The pronunciation of the "ll" or "y" sound in porteño Spanish, particularly in Buenos Aires, Argentina, is often like the English "sh" sound. This phenomenon is known as "yeísmo con sheísmo." So, words like "pollo" would be pronounced like "posho," and "yo" would be pronounced like "sho."
Holy shit, I remember having a dream of a silver/gray sphere moving on a table or stage with red curtains behind it. It moved like a billiard ball bouncing in strange ways, with illogical fluctuations in speed, the shape was rougher and smoother depending on the speed, almost as if it was made of vibrating liquid. It almost felt like the ball was mocking me with how incomprehensible it's properties were and how it kept changing as soon as i had a grasp on its shape, at the same time rough and detailed, and smooth and uninteresting. I didn't have a body or any real thoughts, all i felt was an overwhelming sense of disgust and panic/fear/dread.
After this dream when I got very sick I often could feel the texture of the ball in my head, morphing horribly amd endlessly. I haven't experienced it in years and I'm almost sad that I can no longer feel that feeling in all it's horror.
It's not that synesthesia causes nausea--elevated histamine causes nausea and synesthesia, and a sense of fatalism and endless repetition. This whole thing just screams histamine
Your attempts at scholarly work is impressive yet ultimately meaningless. As with most of philosophy. Nothing is more punishing to humanity than a philosopher with ideas about the world.
Thanks, Pseudiom, now I have a playlist to listen while I go to the circular ruins down the river.
Let me know what your interpretation of "Before and After Science" is.
Ok I didn't get to finish the video yesterday, just sat down and finished the rest, absolutely stellar! I don't know how you do your research but you always manage to find so much that I've never heard of. I love how you traced the ideas back to show how prevelant they've been to humans, and now I've got some new music that I'm gonna listen as well. Thank you so much for delving deeper into my suggestion!!!
Also some thoughts as I was listening: most aesthetics are just labels we apply post-release as it's more of a "how does this make me feel" than a thought during creation. Definitely gets watered down when it gets hyper-specifc, but it can also allow people to find things they normally wouldn't be having an easily searchable label.
It's also interesting to see art pieces having such consistency with themes, from older pieces that have spheres and eyes and abstracts, to what some people make now (albeit more horror and retro inspired today). I guess some things just stick in our brains throughout time one way or another.
Is this video even about Dreamcore? Well, not really, but that was the inciting incident to it. This video idea was suggested by @RayRaven, but it turned into something much different. It became about ten ideas pared down into a video about five or six ideas I realized where actually related (at least in my sleeping mind). Fun fact: my furnace appears in this video!
That's why I love your channel. You can take something like Dreamcore and tie it into the likes of Plato, Jung, and Wordsworth.
Awesome. I've always wondered what your thoughts were on the Aesthetics Wiki and the overall "aesthetics" trend of recent years
"I think we need a Wiki for Wikis."
@@Pseudiom Amen to that!
Dreams are part of our education.
Life is justified by dreams, I hope.
This was unbelievably fascinating, thank you
Gracias.
I dont get why you dont have more views, you cover obscure topics but you always do it very well and in an entretaining fashion
my favorite video by you. Amazing
As long as you felt like your time was not wasted!
One of your best videos yet. Fascinating and inspiring.
Thank you! I'm very happy people like the odd direction I took it in.
@@Pseudiom I'm not the biggest dreamer, but something I've deeply associated with dreams was the song 'Key' by Yellow Magic Orchestra. It's the "what is happening?" -> "this is happening" loop, which self-assures the dream in a way.
Completely unrelated to the actual video (I'll leave another more relevant to it later). I'm sure you've already heard, but if you haven't, Roger Nichols' daughter Cimcie has finally released two working tapes of The Second Arrangement. I was wondering what you think about them if you've heard them.
Disclaimer: I know there's some drama behind the whole situation, but I've never looked into it. I will say I'm glad people have a cleaner copy to work with! It seems like the Second Arrangement is going to be reverse engineered back into existence through the multiple copies that exist. I heard some rumors about a supposed copy that may appear on a Gaucho anniversary release, but that might all be pure rumor. I'd like for the Second Arrangement to actually be released officially, but that seems unlikely-stranger things have happened!
Dream core is essentially vapour wave if the original references are post 2000 give or take a few years.
I am surprised this channel doesn’t have more followers. What a gem
Yet another fantastic video with more insight into things I only had a very surface level understanding of. I actually saw someone claim that Oingo Boingo was Dreamcore once, but I don't exactly think that fits the criteria. I now need to listen to Eno.
I don’t pay much attention to aesthetics but your videos are always interesting to me and this one was no exception , and i’m definitely going to check some of the music out because minecraft goes dummy hard
I’m half a year late but this might be one of my favorite yt videos, awesome job. I just found this channel and I can’t believe it took me so long to come across it. So much quality content
This video is an absolute tour de force.
I was especially happy to be introduced to Timaeus Dreams: I experienced something like this at least twice when I was a kid, at least once, I can recall clearly, when I was sick. It must have been some kind of fevre dream, since I was not asleep, but I was not fully concious either. I "dreamed" of a white space that seemed potentially infinite in one moment, for I got a sense of very long distance, but limited in the next, for I had the sense it must have been, large as it may be, walled and roofed in some way. The overall feeling I got from this was slightly nauseating, vaguely similiar to how a poorly composed picture with no clear focus seems to pierce your eyes and gives you a headache, but gentler and more aetherial.
This memory weirded me out ever since; it's interesting to hear this is an old, already existing concept.
Glad to hear someone else found the concept useful. I have to credit Agora Road for introducing it to me though. I think its very useful to classify that unreal space between dreams and nightmares. I do wonder if it really is an observable psychological thing in the brain or simply psychological.
I had a dream that was very similar to the "...very thin wire attached to a thick cable" in childhood and the description clicked for me.
@@Pseudiom Yeah, it would be interesting to see some serious empirical investigation into this. I find it odd that, apparently, most people who have had these dreams did so as children. Maybe it's a weird cousin of sleep paralysis?
I adore your channel
Holly, never knew the timaus dream had a name, that shit is spooky AF
Pseudiom, I listened to Before and After Science like you recommended, I liked it. It wasn't as weird as I thought it would be, but the songs were ethereal, a bit melancholic, otherworldly, Top of the Pops for shadow people. It's obvious these songs were composed by avant garde people who wanted to make pop, they are a nice mix of cerebral and cold with feeling and enthusiasm. It's the perfect soundtrack to have dreams with, to see beautiful shadows go by in the lonely night.
I see the oscillating sphere to spikes protruding from a central point and other geometrical shapes when I am too drunk and closing my eyes, trying to sleep before the sick. In that sense, I dread seeing them as they are a sign of having gone too far.
Absolutely breathtaking, thanks for this essay.
Interesting topic I never heard of dreamcore till today. Cool video!
Damn, I had those exact same dreams when I was a kid, now I only get them when I'm sick. I didn't know it had a name. Those dreams are more likely to happen during periods of dehydration, or after recovering after prolonged alcholol use, or even when forgetting to take anti depressants or suddenly stopping them. I think it has something to do with both of those things lowering rem sleep, so when a person stops them the rem sleep come back with a vengeance. However with dehydration I'm not sure of mechanism.
Man how r u so obscure, this deserves as much views and subscribers as Clark Elieson or Great Art Explained
Kevin Sorbo looked around at the desert of black sand, the void sky. This was not his world. The distress and fear came creeping over him like the fleet waters of a drowning world. He was...DISAPPOINTED!!
32:01 Getting close to 8 billion people alive, statistics websites report over 5 billion of them have internet access... Last I checked, US had about 350 million people. American culture tends to be seriously American-centric, as in closed off to outside influences and genuinely and generally unaware of them, but no. The US is not most of the internet.
A piece of a master
That being what their dreams are made off explains a lot about their political beliefs.
The experience of nature without objects
Cultural note for the author. As a porteño, Borges would pronounce pesadilla as pesadisha. The pronunciation of the "ll" or "y" sound in porteño Spanish, particularly in Buenos Aires, Argentina, is often like the English "sh" sound. This phenomenon is known as "yeísmo con sheísmo." So, words like "pollo" would be pronounced like "posho," and "yo" would be pronounced like "sho."
Holy shit, I remember having a dream of a silver/gray sphere moving on a table or stage with red curtains behind it.
It moved like a billiard ball bouncing in strange ways, with illogical fluctuations in speed, the shape was rougher and smoother depending on the speed, almost as if it was made of vibrating liquid. It almost felt like the ball was mocking me with how incomprehensible it's properties were and how it kept changing as soon as i had a grasp on its shape, at the same time rough and detailed, and smooth and uninteresting.
I didn't have a body or any real thoughts, all i felt was an overwhelming sense of disgust and panic/fear/dread.
After this dream when I got very sick I often could feel the texture of the ball in my head, morphing horribly amd endlessly. I haven't experienced it in years and I'm almost sad that I can no longer feel that feeling in all it's horror.
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Salivador Dali Jumpscare
Spooky anteaters.
Hey yall these timaeus dreams are allergic reactions. Like. Textbook
It's not that synesthesia causes nausea--elevated histamine causes nausea and synesthesia, and a sense of fatalism and endless repetition. This whole thing just screams histamine
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Your attempts at scholarly work is impressive yet ultimately meaningless. As with most of philosophy. Nothing is more punishing to humanity than a philosopher with ideas about the world.
What kind of philosophy do you value?
It's a labour of love. All art will one day be forgotten. But art is process, and if it is 'now' then it isn't forgotten.
this video provided alot of educational and artistic value. it is not meaningless