Thanks Devin, I watched this video & I quit Twitch and now I multistream to LinkedIn, MySpace & Ebay. My numbers have been going up ever since, I owe you one bro 🙏
I used to re-stream/simulcast for years on twitch and RUclips, nothing ever happened but I did get viewers commenting "you can't do this" My reply would be, "if twitch wants me to stop they should make me partner" I have now moved to youtube for the simple fact there is more eyeballs and streaming quality is better than twitch.
I've said this for years. Unless your a streamer with 1000s of views every day twitch isnt going to waist there time to stop someone with "low numbers" to stop streaming on multiple platforms. And like Devin has said multiple times on other videos. If you want to grow your community you should multi stream and just not become an affiliate or partner to do it "legally". But like I said I never see a world where twitch will go after an affiliate for multi streaming.
Fun thing is: people are even doing so, when you weren't that stupid to go for Affiliate or Partner. I don't know how many people told me during streams, when they noticed I simulcast to other platforms: "You are not allowed to do this!" - "Guess why you can't sub me? I'm nor a Twitch Partner neither Affiliate, so: yes..." - "But you have more than 100+ viewers!", leading to the "Why U no Affiliate/Partner??" discussion.
Enforcing vs. streamers with 300 viewers ( shortly after the 50/50 change ) will drive small timers into RUclips. A LOT more than what's happening. As Devin says, enforcing equates to paying the streamer, paying enough for the streamer to shut up and/or not care anymore. This is about "show me the money" and not much else. Any dictator inclinations will implode the platform in zero time
We still can’t multistream! You have to end the stream and then go live on another platform it explains it on the blog! Really nothing changed overall just a minor difference. Not the change we wanted! haha
THIS is so annoying when it comes to Twitch. And I have to counter you, that most people on Twitch don't know about that: I don't know how many people told me during streams, when they noticed I simulcast to other platforms: "You are not allowed to do this!" - "Guess why you can't sub me? I'm nor a Twitch Partner neither Affiliate, so: yes..." - "But you have more than 100+ viewers!", leading to the "Why U no Affiliate/Partner??" discussion, where me or my mate always come up with the "Devin arguments": being a sellout for some jiggling money. Also, somehow being connected to the "Twitch and Gambling" video: Forcing ads on viewers, this annoys so many people so much, when they enter your stream and having absolutely no control about those ads shown, e. g. not wanting to advertise some companies or products in any kind. The "ads on entry" thing e. g. prevents me often from raiding/supporting other small streamers, because it's just hilarious if you e. g. raid someone, they are happy for you doing so - and you miss it all, because they express that while I/my community have to watch those ads... Also, from a small streamer perspective: I doubted several times that simulcasting is a serious alternative to Twitch, because of e. g. Facebook and RUclips growth being stuck at a very low (0 - 1) level, when I usually have between 20 - 130 viewers on Twitch, peaking sometimes up to 400 viewers. Facebook, well... it's just horrible to work with that (backend...) as a creator and also way less enjoyable for viewers because how the stream is embedd into Facebook. But both seem to... grow (slowly) now. Maybe that's why I'm so much happier about every new (recurring) viewer on both of those (or other) platforms. Because it reminds me when I started streaming on Twitch and how I build my community there in the beginning with just a few people that were always there to talk to while streaming.
Multistreaming has been one of the best decisions I've ever made, especially after getting a stream key for TikTok. The amount of engagement I've received on all platforms, especially Twitch, has been MINDBLOWING. It really isn't that hard reading multiple chats either.
Hey Devin, I just wanted to thank you for all of the free, useful content you provide on this channel. A year ago when I started making content I knew nothing about new media marketing, nor did I have any interest in it. Now, I super pumped whenever you drop an new video and I'm actively seeking out other information regarding it. It doesn't have a huge benefit to me, since the content I make is niche, but I love getting to help, inform, and educate others on the subject (a lot of referring to your content here since I don't think I could say it succinctly like you do). I appreciate what you're doing here on RUclips, on Discord, and through Novo. Thank you!
I talked with Twitch when applying for Partner about a year ago, and they specifically said I could not stream on RUclips at all. I tried asking them for an exception because I wanted to do what Harris Heller did before he made the switch - stream on RUclips for a bit then bring everyone over to Twitch. I did that once before I was Partner and I basically doubled my viewership on the Twitch stream. They said no. I was not paid anything, I just was applying for the basic Twitch Partner program where you get the extra emote slots and the badge etc. So even if exclusivity was unenforceable, or apparently never enforced, it was definitely specifically told to me and probably a lot of partners within the last 2 years that they are not allowed to stream on RUclips, and hearing this news definitely changes that for Partners like me, and it feels like a massive load off (I was pretty close to leaving Twitch for RUclips) Haven't fully finished the video yet but I read your Twitter thread too and wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone else had thoughts
If you didn't finish the video, Exclusivity enforcement was removed for all platforms but Facebook and RUclips, they do not want you to simul-stream there, they will enforce it for those two, especially for Partners; those two are the exception and they don't allow you to simultaneously stream to those, because they want to hold monopoly over you, sadly~
Yeah, been streaming 3 years on Twitch and always heard from everyone I talked to that streaming on RUclips as a Partner could get you in trouble. Not even multistreaming, just streaming at all. Never heard or saw evidence for the opposite. So, while it's too bad they didn't kill exclusivity, this announcement was still good news for me. (deep diver)
Mate, thank Gwad someone said it. Twitch released the statement and I was so confused that everyone was rejoicing. 26 mins very easily with your informative and well structured videos. Keep it up.
I started streaming on RUclips thanks to Devin Nash. It's most certainly true when he says RUclips has a discovery but Twitch doesn't. I don't have that many subscribers but I do get found my random people sometimes. I always make sure to ask them how they found my channel and their answer is usually "I typed warzone on the search bar and your stream came up". I started streaming on Twitch then changed to RUclips & that NEVER happened to me on twitch.
I don't stream, and I don't even really watch many streams anymore, but I absolutely love listening to intellectual discussions and talks. You're solidly in that bucket. Very interesting stuff, keep it up and yes i'm here 26 minutes in.
I'm just amazed streamers don't watch these videos religiously. I don't even stream but this content is absolutely essential for any one who has a platform on social media.
Thank you. My friend came to my tiktok live yesterday to tell me exclusivity is dead and we can multi stream on YT now and I really didn't believe it and thought it was way too good to be true. So glad you cleared it up - I do think the co streaming on tiktok is a great idea though as I agree, TT live is really popping. I'll probably continue to multistream on YT and Twitch unless I become partner. Thank you as always for the amazing content.
Hey Devin! 26 min call out! Thanks to you I didn't sign the Twitch affiliate contract and do Live multistream everyday to all 3 platforms, RUclips, FB and Twitch...and to be honest, Twitch is doing the worse in terms of growth...I was a FB only broadcaster, but now it feels like YT is doing better and better...Thanks! P.S. Regarding chat - I use restream platform and it has a chat plugin and viewers can read chat from all platforms...and people actually do that and interact across all platforms in the chat
26 mins gang! Thank you for vids, Devin! I’m a creator trying to grow and I find your insight and knowledge INVALUABLE. I’ve been “throwing caution” to the wind and streaming both on twitch, RUclips, AND Tiktok recently 😂
Thanks for making this vid! 26 minute commenter here haha! I'm a Partner on Twitch and I stream music, but am finding discoverability super hard recently, this new exclusivity clause is interesting and this vid has made more sense of it so thankyou! I'm not on Tik Tok....interesting...
Deep-diver signing in at 26:00 and wanted to point some things out as a 2-year Facebook Gaming Partner (came over on the Mixer -> FBG deal) on why they're struggling to build out Facebook Gaming. After 2 years, the platform is still struggling with many features & requests from when I first came onboard: *Stream delay is still 8-11 seconds on average and ruins interactivity *Chat breaks multiple times per week (I'll think my chat is dead when in fact chat just doesn't display people's messages) *Reach started out great and then died out after Sept/Oct 2020 (most people dropped tons of CCV and never recovered) *Most viewers that come from Twitch/YT hate having to deal with their real ids and don't want to have to create alt accounts *Aspects of monetization break occasionally and many with monetization have not been paid to what they've expected (I didn't have this problem, though) *The workflow for going live from Facebook Gaming Studio is far more cumbersome compared to Twitch *Benefits as a Partner were great at first, but now those have dried up and they have incentives for Stars and Reels which don't pan out unless you get a lot of community volume Most of the things that hold Facebook Gaming back in terms of being great is the fact that the engineers need to work with all the existing infrastructure of Facebook, which just creates a litany of bugs across all aspects of Facebook Gaming.
Huh. I'm not Affiliate, let alone Partner, yet, so i'm just gonna do it anyways. But I was excited for a bit thinking "Great! I can build communities across these platforms and don't have to plan for abandoning any of them in the future!" Disappointing. Twitch needs to realize that simulcasting doesn't hurt them.
Simulcasting yes. But from this article we can ascertain that you CAN stream to RUclips just without the multi stream to twitch, which is a huge change for a lot of us that aren't in he upp echelons of twitch. I less I'm reading that wrong? That's the reason why streamers are happy. Honestly, until we see the actual contract for ourselves I'm not changing anything.
TikTok is opening up OBS streaming to gamers, mostly Twitch Affiliates, and many are starting to stream there, it will be interesting to see what the impact of this is going to be as it grows.
Seeing people praise Twitch for a change that isn't even close to the standard it should provide was extremely disappointing to see. Thank you for spreading the correct information Devin.
Heya from the 26min. crew! From the first "Exclusivity is gone!?" post I saw I had to look up Twitch's announcement and was sorely disappointed by it. From that moment I was wondering what your thoughts were and knew this video was coming! Thanks, as always, for the insights!
This from 26:53 to 27:27 though.. Was this setup beforehand and/or volume edited? I don't think I've ever been hit with so many CTA's in such a short time. 26:53 Pitch 27:05 Simple 27:15 Opportunities 27:19 FREE 27:22 BRANDS 27:25 MORE 27:27 TWITTER!
I watch some content on Twitch because its not available elsewhere. As a destiny viewer, I 100% prefer watching youtube videos than trying to remember the name of a streamer I want to watch then hope they are live and if not to dig through their VOD to find the content that I want to watch. RUclips has found me so much great content I would otherwise not have found whereas on Twitch I'm not digging through VODs to hopefully find someone doing the content I'm looking for.
Hi, the reason they are allowing tiktok is because all streamers funnel their people to twitch during the simultaneous live. I've gained hundreds of concurrent viewers on twitch because I send the tiktok chat there
Good stuff Devin. Not gonna lie they had me in the first half, but after hearing your thoughts maybe I should just go ahead and multistream to YT/Twitch. I'm an affiliate, but you raise a good point that Twitch can't go through EVERY affiliate.
Thanks for the content , 26 min callout. You have been such an insightful help to a lot of things. Appreciate the work you put in for others to help explain things out.
Devin IIRC in their old contracts they had exclusive rights to "licensed content", however the licensed content was not defined as having had to be produced on twitch, meaning that technically speaking if you were a partnered streamer and you streamed somewhere else not on twitch, you were making that licensed content not exclusive to twitch. It was most likely an illegal contract but no one big really tested it
26 minutes in. Loving the content. I your content, as it gets to the barebones. There is a lot of false marketing and ideologies on the internet and you break that mountain down. I liked and subscribed, as your notepad format is hilarious to watch. I don't know how you keep this 'research-based' content entertaining. I now know why your company must be so successful. I might experiment around on RUclips, to see what it is like. Thanks Devin.
ATM I only use Twitch for one Elder Scrolls Lorecast and the occasional big event like the OTK game show. Twitch has some great creators, but the best parts of the site are 3rd part addons. The mobile app is extremely annoying to use, although u can bypass adds if u use audio only(podcast, panels, etc).
I always find your content engaging, intriguing, and thoughtful. While I dabble in the e-world (live, long form, short form, commerce, etc for fun) I really do enjoy your vids, basically look at your stuff from a deep-dive perspective as a business podcast. On one hand, I'm still working my goals in my job, career, and catching up from my setbacks I caused myself, so I don't have the inclination to devote all the effort required nor money to offload to create that kind of growth but on the other at some point I would like to get more involved in a full time content creation career and love your content regarding it. Been following you for about 2 years now and I've loved every time you pull out the notepad :)
Lil late but shout-out at 26 and yeah I've always been interested in the business side of things and i find it absolutely mind blowing that the vast majority of big streamers have absolutely zero knowledge of how their business works. I know they should be focused on content and have a guy like you run the business side but so many of them try n talk business themselves and omg its hilariously bad the majority of the time.
i gave up on streaming, but i still watch your videos sometimes on how the scene is. i deep dive into most of these while im gaming on my other screen. you make good content and its still interesting to hear about how twitch continues to have no discovery. personally i feel like facebook live struggles because its not blatantly obvious where it is when youre on your wall. im scrolling posts mindlessly and will never see or notice anything about FB gaming/live. sometimes youtube pops up a live in my recommended just because i watch gaming content
Where you said about how you could always end your stream and start up elsewhere, I think that only applied to affiliates didn't it? I believe the partnership agreement is different and does state that you have to exclusively stream on twitch and not elsewhere. The partners I know have all said that what they were told at least.
Deep Diver, survived beyond the 26 minute mark ;) I'm learning so much from you and I'm considering getting onto your Patreon. Trying to decide if this is something I want to get into seriously so I'm soaking up every word. Thank you!
Deep diver here, for I did the full video and I always enjoy watching your content to see your point of view etc. so keep up on the content and hope the best for yea. 😊
@11:41 - Man I've been a twitch affiliate this WHOLE time and thought I was unable to mulistream to youtube and other platforms!?! I thought their exclusivity agreement also applied to affiliates??
What is the odd blue graphic that pops up at ~31.36 and what is its purpose? Just curious as to why its showing, or is it just a graphic mistake? Watermark of some sort?
I read the announcement all the way through and immediately saw they had not actually removed "exclusivity" and them specifically stated no RUclips/Facebook and thought... 'no change, same business as usual' Oh and 26 minute call out =)
Thanks Devin for the awesome videos. I have been taking a lot of note from you and other creators for building a channel/livestream, and it has been helping immensely. The growth has been crazy this year for me. Also Deep Diver here.
Diving deep till I hit the ground as always. Thanks for speaking about it, I was already wondering why some people were cheering about the announcement.
Ngl, I thought this announcement just meant that twitch partners (the ones that get paid from Amazon subs) can now also stream on RUclips (not simultaneously). I almost never see anyone stream on both and have subs on twitch. Didn’t expect that it only affects short form streams like TikTok.
i simulcast right now and have grown pretty significantly since starting. I have barely made ANY actual long form videos and have amassed 25k+ views and around 265 subs.
Thanks Devin, I watched this video & I quit Twitch and now I multistream to LinkedIn, MySpace & Ebay. My numbers have been going up ever since, I owe you one bro 🙏
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I used to re-stream/simulcast for years on twitch and RUclips, nothing ever happened but I did get viewers commenting "you can't do this"
My reply would be, "if twitch wants me to stop they should make me partner"
I have now moved to youtube for the simple fact there is more eyeballs and streaming quality is better than twitch.
I've said this for years. Unless your a streamer with 1000s of views every day twitch isnt going to waist there time to stop someone with "low numbers" to stop streaming on multiple platforms. And like Devin has said multiple times on other videos. If you want to grow your community you should multi stream and just not become an affiliate or partner to do it "legally". But like I said I never see a world where twitch will go after an affiliate for multi streaming.
Fun thing is: people are even doing so, when you weren't that stupid to go for Affiliate or Partner. I don't know how many people told me during streams, when they noticed I simulcast to other platforms: "You are not allowed to do this!" - "Guess why you can't sub me? I'm nor a Twitch Partner neither Affiliate, so: yes..." - "But you have more than 100+ viewers!", leading to the "Why U no Affiliate/Partner??" discussion.
What is great is there will be a bunch of people who THINK there is no exclusivity. Twitch is going to have to enforce and possibly get challenged
Wouldn't that be great!
Enforcing vs. streamers with 300 viewers ( shortly after the 50/50 change ) will drive small timers into RUclips. A LOT more than what's happening.
As Devin says, enforcing equates to paying the streamer, paying enough for the streamer to shut up and/or not care anymore. This is about "show me the money" and not much else. Any dictator inclinations will implode the platform in zero time
9:25 FLASHBANG
We still can’t multistream! You have to end the stream and then go live on another platform it explains it on the blog! Really nothing changed overall just a minor difference. Not the change we wanted! haha
@@honestlySEGAsucks tbf devin says that at the 2:00 mark...
@@cami5173 No, at the 2:00 mark, Devin is talking about BEFORE the announcement.
@@cami5173 Thats not how that works lol
@@AwesomeNukexactly. He starts to talk about the change ca around at 03:50
THIS is so annoying when it comes to Twitch. And I have to counter you, that most people on Twitch don't know about that: I don't know how many people told me during streams, when they noticed I simulcast to other platforms: "You are not allowed to do this!" - "Guess why you can't sub me? I'm nor a Twitch Partner neither Affiliate, so: yes..." - "But you have more than 100+ viewers!", leading to the "Why U no Affiliate/Partner??" discussion, where me or my mate always come up with the "Devin arguments": being a sellout for some jiggling money.
Also, somehow being connected to the "Twitch and Gambling" video: Forcing ads on viewers, this annoys so many people so much, when they enter your stream and having absolutely no control about those ads shown, e. g. not wanting to advertise some companies or products in any kind. The "ads on entry" thing e. g. prevents me often from raiding/supporting other small streamers, because it's just hilarious if you e. g. raid someone, they are happy for you doing so - and you miss it all, because they express that while I/my community have to watch those ads...
Also, from a small streamer perspective: I doubted several times that simulcasting is a serious alternative to Twitch, because of e. g. Facebook and RUclips growth being stuck at a very low (0 - 1) level, when I usually have between 20 - 130 viewers on Twitch, peaking sometimes up to 400 viewers.
Facebook, well... it's just horrible to work with that (backend...) as a creator and also way less enjoyable for viewers because how the stream is embedd into Facebook. But both seem to... grow (slowly) now.
Maybe that's why I'm so much happier about every new (recurring) viewer on both of those (or other) platforms. Because it reminds me when I started streaming on Twitch and how I build my community there in the beginning with just a few people that were always there to talk to while streaming.
Deep diver here, bloody love the content and the exposure that you create!
Multistreaming has been one of the best decisions I've ever made, especially after getting a stream key for TikTok. The amount of engagement I've received on all platforms, especially Twitch, has been MINDBLOWING. It really isn't that hard reading multiple chats either.
You carry my stream and I feel like I owe it all to you. Thanks for all that you do! Keep on pumpin and GL!!
Hey Devin, I just wanted to thank you for all of the free, useful content you provide on this channel. A year ago when I started making content I knew nothing about new media marketing, nor did I have any interest in it. Now, I super pumped whenever you drop an new video and I'm actively seeking out other information regarding it. It doesn't have a huge benefit to me, since the content I make is niche, but I love getting to help, inform, and educate others on the subject (a lot of referring to your content here since I don't think I could say it succinctly like you do). I appreciate what you're doing here on RUclips, on Discord, and through Novo. Thank you!
As always, accurate, well explained, and backed up info even if folks don't get to the most important part at 26:18.
the deep divers 🤝
Really appreciate the insight. Been going back and forth on this for awhile.
I talked with Twitch when applying for Partner about a year ago, and they specifically said I could not stream on RUclips at all. I tried asking them for an exception because I wanted to do what Harris Heller did before he made the switch - stream on RUclips for a bit then bring everyone over to Twitch. I did that once before I was Partner and I basically doubled my viewership on the Twitch stream. They said no. I was not paid anything, I just was applying for the basic Twitch Partner program where you get the extra emote slots and the badge etc.
So even if exclusivity was unenforceable, or apparently never enforced, it was definitely specifically told to me and probably a lot of partners within the last 2 years that they are not allowed to stream on RUclips, and hearing this news definitely changes that for Partners like me, and it feels like a massive load off (I was pretty close to leaving Twitch for RUclips)
Haven't fully finished the video yet but I read your Twitter thread too and wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone else had thoughts
If you didn't finish the video, Exclusivity enforcement was removed for all platforms but Facebook and RUclips, they do not want you to simul-stream there, they will enforce it for those two, especially for Partners; those two are the exception and they don't allow you to simultaneously stream to those, because they want to hold monopoly over you, sadly~
Yeah, been streaming 3 years on Twitch and always heard from everyone I talked to that streaming on RUclips as a Partner could get you in trouble. Not even multistreaming, just streaming at all. Never heard or saw evidence for the opposite. So, while it's too bad they didn't kill exclusivity, this announcement was still good news for me.
(deep diver)
Mate, thank Gwad someone said it. Twitch released the statement and I was so confused that everyone was rejoicing. 26 mins very easily with your informative and well structured videos. Keep it up.
I started streaming on RUclips thanks to Devin Nash. It's most certainly true when he says RUclips has a discovery but Twitch doesn't. I don't have that many subscribers but I do get found my random people sometimes. I always make sure to ask them how they found my channel and their answer is usually "I typed warzone on the search bar and your stream came up". I started streaming on Twitch then changed to RUclips & that NEVER happened to me on twitch.
I don't stream, and I don't even really watch many streams anymore, but I absolutely love listening to intellectual discussions and talks. You're solidly in that bucket. Very interesting stuff, keep it up
and yes i'm here 26 minutes in.
I'm just amazed streamers don't watch these videos religiously. I don't even stream but this content is absolutely essential for any one who has a platform on social media.
appreciate the call out Devin. Don't create content but appreciate the insight you provide into this industry.
Thank you. My friend came to my tiktok live yesterday to tell me exclusivity is dead and we can multi stream on YT now and I really didn't believe it and thought it was way too good to be true. So glad you cleared it up - I do think the co streaming on tiktok is a great idea though as I agree, TT live is really popping. I'll probably continue to multistream on YT and Twitch unless I become partner. Thank you as always for the amazing content.
Hey Devin! 26 min call out! Thanks to you I didn't sign the Twitch affiliate contract and do Live multistream everyday to all 3 platforms, RUclips, FB and Twitch...and to be honest, Twitch is doing the worse in terms of growth...I was a FB only broadcaster, but now it feels like YT is doing better and better...Thanks!
P.S. Regarding chat - I use restream platform and it has a chat plugin and viewers can read chat from all platforms...and people actually do that and interact across all platforms in the chat
26 mins gang! Thank you for vids, Devin! I’m a creator trying to grow and I find your insight and knowledge INVALUABLE. I’ve been “throwing caution” to the wind and streaming both on twitch, RUclips, AND Tiktok recently 😂
Thanks for making this vid! 26 minute commenter here haha! I'm a Partner on Twitch and I stream music, but am finding discoverability super hard recently, this new exclusivity clause is interesting and this vid has made more sense of it so thankyou! I'm not on Tik Tok....interesting...
Truer words were never spoken, I have NEVER watched Devin Nash on Twitch nor am I following on Twitter but I have watched tons of videos on RUclips..
Deep-diver signing in at 26:00 and wanted to point some things out as a 2-year Facebook Gaming Partner (came over on the Mixer -> FBG deal) on why they're struggling to build out Facebook Gaming.
After 2 years, the platform is still struggling with many features & requests from when I first came onboard:
*Stream delay is still 8-11 seconds on average and ruins interactivity
*Chat breaks multiple times per week (I'll think my chat is dead when in fact chat just doesn't display people's messages)
*Reach started out great and then died out after Sept/Oct 2020 (most people dropped tons of CCV and never recovered)
*Most viewers that come from Twitch/YT hate having to deal with their real ids and don't want to have to create alt accounts
*Aspects of monetization break occasionally and many with monetization have not been paid to what they've expected (I didn't have this problem, though)
*The workflow for going live from Facebook Gaming Studio is far more cumbersome compared to Twitch
*Benefits as a Partner were great at first, but now those have dried up and they have incentives for Stars and Reels which don't pan out unless you get a lot of community volume
Most of the things that hold Facebook Gaming back in terms of being great is the fact that the engineers need to work with all the existing infrastructure of Facebook, which just creates a litany of bugs across all aspects of Facebook Gaming.
Guys the secret callout is just him farming engagement and the only way I can warn you is by engaging ahhhhhhh
Deep diving into that Blue Ocean Strategy. Always learning something new here! Thanks for your time and energy.
Very true about the viewership. I never been to a Devin Nash Twitch stream, but watch videos quite regularly.
Huh. I'm not Affiliate, let alone Partner, yet, so i'm just gonna do it anyways.
But I was excited for a bit thinking "Great! I can build communities across these platforms and don't have to plan for abandoning any of them in the future!"
Disappointing. Twitch needs to realize that simulcasting doesn't hurt them.
26 minutes babyyyy!
Deep Diver here. I Just found your channel and am really enjoying it
Simulcasting yes. But from this article we can ascertain that you CAN stream to RUclips just without the multi stream to twitch, which is a huge change for a lot of us that aren't in he upp echelons of twitch. I less I'm reading that wrong?
That's the reason why streamers are happy. Honestly, until we see the actual contract for ourselves I'm not changing anything.
Loved the video! Destiny really is a good example DGGL
Deep diver crew. Gotta love people who actually read the changes and not just the first few lines. Haha 😄 your content always opens my eyes. Thanks
TikTok is opening up OBS streaming to gamers, mostly Twitch Affiliates, and many are starting to stream there, it will be interesting to see what the impact of this is going to be as it grows.
Seeing people praise Twitch for a change that isn't even close to the standard it should provide was extremely disappointing to see. Thank you for spreading the correct information Devin.
Heya from the 26min. crew! From the first "Exclusivity is gone!?" post I saw I had to look up Twitch's announcement and was sorely disappointed by it. From that moment I was wondering what your thoughts were and knew this video was coming! Thanks, as always, for the insights!
Deep Diver here. Super interesting stuff. You're really sharp. Much Respect.
26! Love your videos. I stream on FB and have used your information to find more success! Thank you.
This from 26:53 to 27:27 though.. Was this setup beforehand and/or volume edited? I don't think I've ever been hit with so many CTA's in such a short time.
26:53 Pitch
27:05 Simple
27:15 Opportunities
27:19 FREE
27:22 BRANDS
27:25 MORE
27:27 TWITTER!
I watch some content on Twitch because its not available elsewhere. As a destiny viewer, I 100% prefer watching youtube videos than trying to remember the name of a streamer I want to watch then hope they are live and if not to dig through their VOD to find the content that I want to watch. RUclips has found me so much great content I would otherwise not have found whereas on Twitch I'm not digging through VODs to hopefully find someone doing the content I'm looking for.
Here on that 26 min deep dive, love your work bro, TY 🙏
26 minutes in, just subbed. Watched after the Nadeshot 100T controversy video.
Hi, the reason they are allowing tiktok is because all streamers funnel their people to twitch during the simultaneous live. I've gained hundreds of concurrent viewers on twitch because I send the tiktok chat there
Deep diver here. Always love this content, best education for something that's not easily google-able!
100% agree. After I read the details I was like wow this is actually dumb.
Good stuff Devin. Not gonna lie they had me in the first half, but after hearing your thoughts maybe I should just go ahead and multistream to YT/Twitch. I'm an affiliate, but you raise a good point that Twitch can't go through EVERY affiliate.
Thanks for the content , 26 min callout. You have been such an insightful help to a lot of things. Appreciate the work you put in for others to help explain things out.
26 in! Great stuff, and loving the Novo Nexus options.
26 minutes! I always watch your entire videos! I share your info because of the mass amounts of misinformation that circles. Much love keep being you!
Public park in a town attempting to prevent you from selling hot dogs anywhere besides their own park.
Deep diver here! Do you see my fancy re-breather scuba gear? 😜 Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and perspective!
Devin IIRC in their old contracts they had exclusive rights to "licensed content", however the licensed content was not defined as having had to be produced on twitch, meaning that technically speaking if you were a partnered streamer and you streamed somewhere else not on twitch, you were making that licensed content not exclusive to twitch.
It was most likely an illegal contract but no one big really tested it
Let's goo! 26min deep dive. I love listening to you at work. You always bring new perspectives, keep it up
Look at this Devin Nash guy. Boosting engagement with the 26-minute call out. He's right.
As someone who is just starting his streaming and content creations - I find your videos super informative. Thank you very much.
26 minutes in. Loving the content. I your content, as it gets to the barebones. There is a lot of false marketing and ideologies on the internet and you break that mountain down. I liked and subscribed, as your notepad format is hilarious to watch. I don't know how you keep this 'research-based' content entertaining. I now know why your company must be so successful. I might experiment around on RUclips, to see what it is like. Thanks Devin.
ATM I only use Twitch for one Elder Scrolls Lorecast and the occasional big event like the OTK game show.
Twitch has some great creators, but the best parts of the site are 3rd part addons. The mobile app is extremely annoying to use, although u can bypass adds if u use audio only(podcast, panels, etc).
*Has darkmode google*'
* *Pulls out shining white notepad* *
- Devin Nash
26 min where you at?!
26 mins deep diving is eye opening, keep it up.
I always find your content engaging, intriguing, and thoughtful. While I dabble in the e-world (live, long form, short form, commerce, etc for fun) I really do enjoy your vids, basically look at your stuff from a deep-dive perspective as a business podcast.
On one hand, I'm still working my goals in my job, career, and catching up from my setbacks I caused myself, so I don't have the inclination to devote all the effort required nor money to offload to create that kind of growth but on the other at some point I would like to get more involved in a full time content creation career and love your content regarding it. Been following you for about 2 years now and I've loved every time you pull out the notepad :)
Lil late but shout-out at 26 and yeah I've always been interested in the business side of things and i find it absolutely mind blowing that the vast majority of big streamers have absolutely zero knowledge of how their business works. I know they should be focused on content and have a guy like you run the business side but so many of them try n talk business themselves and omg its hilariously bad the majority of the time.
Always enjoy your videos and watch them from start to finish. Keep up the great work brother!
i gave up on streaming, but i still watch your videos sometimes on how the scene is. i deep dive into most of these while im gaming on my other screen. you make good content and its still interesting to hear about how twitch continues to have no discovery. personally i feel like facebook live struggles because its not blatantly obvious where it is when youre on your wall. im scrolling posts mindlessly and will never see or notice anything about FB gaming/live. sometimes youtube pops up a live in my recommended just because i watch gaming content
"Survived this long" yeah, no. 26 minutes of actual good content and oped on the livestream environment is not much. More please :D
Where you said about how you could always end your stream and start up elsewhere, I think that only applied to affiliates didn't it? I believe the partnership agreement is different and does state that you have to exclusively stream on twitch and not elsewhere. The partners I know have all said that what they were told at least.
Got the diving helmet on for the Devin deep dive
26 callout mark, i got a new place to live in the city with a good internet connection and im ready to start my journey as a creator.
Deep Diver, survived beyond the 26 minute mark ;) I'm learning so much from you and I'm considering getting onto your Patreon. Trying to decide if this is something I want to get into seriously so I'm soaking up every word. Thank you!
Deep diver here, for I did the full video and I always enjoy watching your content to see your point of view etc. so keep up on the content and hope the best for yea. 😊
Am I supposed to say "OMG LET ME KNOW" or a different call out?
Deep diver here. Thanks!
love the new camera
Always a good listen
Just to confirm as i dont use twitch.
If im NOT under their partnership/agreement, i CAN multistream right?
@11:41 - Man I've been a twitch affiliate this WHOLE time and thought I was unable to mulistream to youtube and other platforms!?! I thought their exclusivity agreement also applied to affiliates??
26 m in! Always watch til the end, thanks, Devin!
26 min secret callout 😎 Love the data you collect and share, thank you!
What is the odd blue graphic that pops up at ~31.36 and what is its purpose? Just curious as to why its showing, or is it just a graphic mistake? Watermark of some sort?
I read the announcement all the way through and immediately saw they had not actually removed "exclusivity" and them specifically stated no RUclips/Facebook and thought... 'no change, same business as usual'
Oh and 26 minute call out =)
Thank you for bringing this to light! I kept seeing posts that cut off the entire memo! Now I understand the entire situation.
Thanks Devin for the awesome videos. I have been taking a lot of note from you and other creators for building a channel/livestream, and it has been helping immensely. The growth has been crazy this year for me. Also Deep Diver here.
26:00 I'm here.
Hi, I’m looking into starting a gaming channel and my cousin told me twitch had dropped their exclusivity clause. I’m glad I found this video.
Does this only apply to partners or are affiliates also not allowed to dual stream?
Diving deep till I hit the ground as always. Thanks for speaking about it, I was already wondering why some people were cheering about the announcement.
thanks for making it clear for what twitch are claiming vs what they are doing yet again
Ngl, I thought this announcement just meant that twitch partners (the ones that get paid from Amazon subs) can now also stream on RUclips (not simultaneously). I almost never see anyone stream on both and have subs on twitch. Didn’t expect that it only affects short form streams like TikTok.
Always appreciate the deep dives, even if it takes more than 26 minutes
26:00 here’s your engagement
Thanks for the content, made it all the way through.
Deep diver and I just fiddle with the idea of stream/vod content creation, Still really interesting videos
26mins. Dived so deep and forgot my 02 tank
Thank you Devin, I always watch all of your videos till the end.
26 mins for sure very detailed content
i simulcast right now and have grown pretty significantly since starting. I have barely made ANY actual long form videos and have amassed 25k+ views and around 265 subs.
26:00 here
Secret Club yo!
26 minute secret call out!! 🙌🙌🙌
Here's to deep diving!