UPDATE: A jL after j236H will actually safejump a 2H, meaning it hits high if they block it and if they 2H you'll have time to block. The scenario described in the video actually applies to the Medium version of Flying Kick. Are you confused about all the numbers and letters? What the frick is a 236S? THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?! This video explains it all: ruclips.net/video/dOGcSp1uAB8/видео.html cSp1uAB8 Join the Discord: discord.gg/z6zkPE6qer Support me on Patreon to help out with ensuring everyone gets their guide! www.patreon.com/TinyTorgue
@@mr.billy938 Mediums and heavies typically have 15 frames of blockstun, and 2H starts up in 15 frames. So you have to go into 2H as soon as possible (i.e. buffer it while 2M is in hitstop) as any delay will leave a gap.
for anyone who's coming back to this video after the recent gohan buffs, for the combo at 10:15 I don't believe you can fit a 3rd bomb in there anymore, but if you do 2 bombs and finish out the combo normally you'll get the same damage. had to learn the hard way lol
It is possible and its way easier if you start the combo with 5M2M>236L~MLMM. Doing it with the starter shown in the video is trickier and only does about 100 more damage but it still works. Just about getting the right delay between the 2nd and 3rd hit of the 236M rekka as well as getting a proper delay between the Airdash back into j2S.
I started by using the 236H for the bombs but what helped me get more consistent with the 236M was holding down (2) as I was descending so it would be faster to flick through the 236 motion as soon as I landed
I LOVED that ultimate optional combo. No for real, anything TFS related brings a smile to my face. As soon as I heard TFS Goku's voice I was like "wait what". Tfs voicecast is so good. But aside from that, great content! I found my tutorial channel of preference from now on!
So recently I got the urge to finally, once and for all, take the time to properly learn to play Teen Gohan. He was a character I enjoyed a lot when I first got the game, but as I progressed I started playing other characters more and more, and my Gohan skills remained at noob level. I decided it was time to stop neglecting ma boi Gohan and actually bring him up to speed with the rest of my characters, and this is by far the most comprehensive and helpful guide I could find! Thank you so much for making this, my guy. Remember kids, keep on mashing! :D
Gotta say. I really enjoyed this video. I hate learning from combos videos but this was a blast. Great editing, great presentation and format, and the little funny edits here and theres make it enjoyable instead of a chore. First ever combo video that's made me sub and I've played since launch. Cheers
@@tubax926 Same way any saiyan does. Zenkai. Fighting and losing against the strongest people I can find over and over again until "losing" itself becomes harder and harder to achieve.
@@Darkseany yeah but u don't learn combos from playing. U need to go into practice mode. And u need a reference; usually best in video form. But yes definitely playing against better players is the best way to improve your neutral and defensive game.
@tubax926 Or just a teacher. Who can show you exactly what and where you're messing up and how to correct it. This especially helpful because videos aren't the best when it comes to the nuances of inputs that require deliberate delays. And cooperative encouragement is just always a better experience.
Plus at higher level play, you end up just learning combos from seeing them used on you. A large handful of my combos have been learned that way. Some notable examples would be piccolo's 2 grab and heavy corner extensions or solo midscreen double hellzone (not that one is a very practical combo, but fun as hell. Or at least i wasn't practical until now since we have lvl1 into lvl3s at limit break now.)
The 16 monologue was on point. Reminded me of that moment in the manga when Dr. Gero warned 18 and 17 to activate 16 because he was a malfunctioning experiment that was too powerful.
I really appreciate these videos! I am very new to DBFZ so it helps me apply stuff to the game. I played Teen Gohan yesterday and actually beat my first opponent... His L autocombo is just so good LOL
I’ve got thank you you’ve upped my skill level entirely I even watch videos for characters I don’t play often so when I face them i know what to expect and how I can use their moves to my advantage
You can delay each hit of the 5 hit combo to get really good corner carry. Doing this mid screen, combined with mixing lights and mediums, will basically get a wall bounce right at the corner. Can even DR from there.
This character is so wild. He can 2-touch you off almost anything and he can open you up just by blinking, but he doesn't get shit off DR or 2H unless you're really good with assist calls from that height.
also it is possible to get knock down after vanish confirm if in the corner. just delay the assist a tad bit and then jump and cancel immediately to dragon rush and it works!
9:30 sparky limit break and end with lvl 5 is a near TOD, 9850 damage. So basically after that you can do a mixup or vanish to finish if they are at full hp.
WARNING TO ANY OTHER NEW PLAYERS TRYING TO PICK UP THIS OR ANY OTHER CHARACTER AND LAB THEN: do NOT pick a big body character to fight against in the lab. This may be a given for some but I didn't know this and chose Cell to practice combos on with T. Gohan and i was getting them down really well! Then I swapped to a 21 and couldn't hit any combos anymore because the way I was doing them doesnt translate to a character with a smaller hitbox. Absolutely infuriating. Don't make the same mistake I did.
If you are struggling with 08:16-08:45 try this: 2M5M-jMcjMLS-j3S-(delay)-SD-jMS-3S-(land)-236M~LMLM-SD-jLL2HcjLLL-A1-DR. You get more damage and if you practice enough is easy to do, the trick is to maint the input 3 when you do J3s and delay the sd enough is easy to know when you can hit the 236M because you're almos at floor level so the range to do that input is a bit wider.
I just don't understand how he doesn't get so close to the corner that his bombs still work. For the mid-corner, it just drops when I bomb him after the superdash.
Yeah I agree, unfortunately I couldn't do much there without breaking immersion since I was trying to replicate Gohans and Gokus training in the time chamber
Hey I really need some help with the bombs, is there like an specific way to press the button when you do those? Because I always got only one, barely two, I've seen videos and pro players getting even 3 and not much of high ground, but if I mash I don't get even two or if I wait is the same thing, I'm getting desperate lol
@@jaxen91392 years later and I’m still having the same problem. When I do just the bombs I get consistent 2 bombs. Then when I go to combo with it, it’s seemingly random. I’m sure it’s not, but it’s a little frustrating not knowing what I’m doing different
9:30 onward: I have a question regarding multiple bombs links - is the input really j3SS or is it actually j3S3S, cause they always recover when I try to hit more than 1 bomb
j3SS is just a more condensed way to write j3S3S. The combo is strongly tied to distance to corner after Vanish, play around with the Vanish timing and try a little delay after Vanish too
Hey TinyTorgue! thx for the great vid! in the bomb loop i tried adapting it to make the execution more consistent for me, can you tell me if this way would work? [2M5M > jLLS2S > SD > jLLS2S (land) 236H ...]
I wouldn't put Baseku on any team where both other characters can't combo into Spirit Bomb. Tohan and Baseku are great together, but instead of Trunks I'd pick someone else who has Spirit Bomb synergy.
Editing on this is crazyyy. Real solid video man. One issue though, with the bomb loop I can't get the 236M to connect consistently after the second j.3s? Not sure if there's a trick to the timing?
@@TinyTorgue ahh I see, didn't know if there was a visual cue when to input it, like j.3s bomb exploding to get the delay SD. Thanks anyway man you've defo earned a sub.
Do you plan on doing the whole cast? And what will you do if a new patch comes out? Will you remaster? Or create a new video, you already remastered the freiza one, if you do, will you prioritise updating old characters or doing new characters? I'm waiting on Cooler and ssj ku, so i hope you get to them at some point, i hope you keep working on these great guides.
Yeah everyone's gonna get their guide eventually. New patches this late into the game shouldn't break characters but only add new stuff, so I probably wont have to redo the entire video (even if I do, I keep all the files and projects so I dont have to redo them from scratch). I'll prioritize more in demand characters, usually that's the buffed or new characters.
UPDATE:
A jL after j236H will actually safejump a 2H, meaning it hits high if they block it and if they 2H you'll have time to block.
The scenario described in the video actually applies to the Medium version of Flying Kick.
Are you confused about all the numbers and letters? What the frick is a 236S? THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!
This video explains it all: ruclips.net/video/dOGcSp1uAB8/видео.html cSp1uAB8
Join the Discord: discord.gg/z6zkPE6qer
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Please make a z broly one
You can also just keep mashing and trade/counter-hit some of the slowest 2Hes. IIRC 2L trades with Frieza and beats Goku Black's.
Do base vegita next
One question: in the video 2L, 5L, 5M, 2M, 2H, j234L is gapless. But when i tried in training, they can reflect my 2H. Is a misstake?
@@mr.billy938 Mediums and heavies typically have 15 frames of blockstun, and 2H starts up in 15 frames. So you have to go into 2H as soon as possible (i.e. buffer it while 2M is in hitstop) as any delay will leave a gap.
The ultimate gohan tech. 5llll>5llll> level 5> unplug router
Theres no sliding knockdown tho you you can’t hit lvl 5 sorry for being a party pooper:/
@@shakiller149 dragon rush after vanish after 5lll in air get shit on mashers still have a way LOL
@@shakiller149 pressing all lights does give you an SKD tho
Jokes on you they use routers
5lll>5ll2hjclll to get sliding
4:27 I busted out laughing in the library
lmaooooo
for anyone who's coming back to this video after the recent gohan buffs, for the combo at 10:15 I don't believe you can fit a 3rd bomb in there anymore, but if you do 2 bombs and finish out the combo normally you'll get the same damage. had to learn the hard way lol
It is possible and its way easier if you start the combo with 5M2M>236L~MLMM. Doing it with the starter shown in the video is trickier and only does about 100 more damage but it still works. Just about getting the right delay between the 2nd and 3rd hit of the 236M rekka as well as getting a proper delay between the Airdash back into j2S.
I think my favorite running joke for Torgue is 2h sending people into orbit. Classic, great vid
11:53 lol
great video as always, apreciated.
I started by using the 236H for the bombs but what helped me get more consistent with the 236M was holding down (2) as I was descending so it would be faster to flick through the 236 motion as soon as I landed
Omg thank you so much for the tip. I've been struggling with this loop for the past one and a half hour
Thank you i have the same issue
I LOVED that ultimate optional combo. No for real, anything TFS related brings a smile to my face. As soon as I heard TFS Goku's voice I was like "wait what". Tfs voicecast is so good.
But aside from that, great content! I found my tutorial channel of preference from now on!
God I love watching your guides. Lots of knowledge mixed in with some fun ass memes and references. Thanks bro you made my day
Gohan: 5LLL
Cell:
AND NOW... THE END IS NEAR!
DBZA references are so awesome 👏🏻 to see
AND SO I FACE..... THE FINAL CURTAINS.......
IVE LIVED... A LIFE THATS FULL
Don't let this distract you from the fact the bungee gum possesses the characteristics of both rubber and gum
Hisoka: *Initiate clown-like laugh*
I came here for gohan but got so much more
Bruh, nobody cares.
@@ultrainstinctsongoku9614 ...About me. You forgot to finish your sentence.💀
@@obsidianwolf9995 jesus dude thats brutal. I woulda just ignored him
Wow, amazing guide! Glad I came across this - surprised it never showed up in my previous searches for "season 3 teen gohan combo" this week...
I only uploaded this a few days ago to be fair
@@TinyTorgue Think you'll do base vegita or videl soon? (trying to learn them too)
@@yuukotombo6578 Videl is pretty likely one of the next few candidates
Claim your "Here before thumbnail changes" Ticket here
What did it say?
@@lilfoot4837 This video has it ruclips.net/video/xvFZjo5PgG0/видео.html
Zuhayr Ahmed I don’t trust it lol
@ too
That's the most complete combo guide I've seen.
Plus good jokes and TFS references.
1 sub
So recently I got the urge to finally, once and for all, take the time to properly learn to play Teen Gohan. He was a character I enjoyed a lot when I first got the game, but as I progressed I started playing other characters more and more, and my Gohan skills remained at noob level. I decided it was time to stop neglecting ma boi Gohan and actually bring him up to speed with the rest of my characters, and this is by far the most comprehensive and helpful guide I could find! Thank you so much for making this, my guy.
Remember kids, keep on mashing! :D
the editing on these videos is soo tight
on the real real your guides are super helpful and have really helped me learn these characters to their fullest, thank you
As a Teen Gohan main, this is much appreciated 👌🏾
Gotta say. I really enjoyed this video.
I hate learning from combos videos but this was a blast.
Great editing, great presentation and format, and the little funny edits here and theres make it enjoyable instead of a chore.
First ever combo video that's made me sub and I've played since launch.
Cheers
Wait, what do you usually learn from then???? I'm very curious, please reply.
@@tubax926 Same way any saiyan does. Zenkai.
Fighting and losing against the strongest people I can find over and over again until "losing" itself becomes harder and harder to achieve.
@@Darkseany yeah but u don't learn combos from playing. U need to go into practice mode. And u need a reference; usually best in video form.
But yes definitely playing against better players is the best way to improve your neutral and defensive game.
@tubax926 Or just a teacher. Who can show you exactly what and where you're messing up and how to correct it. This especially helpful because videos aren't the best when it comes to the nuances of inputs that require deliberate delays. And cooperative encouragement is just always a better experience.
Plus at higher level play, you end up just learning combos from seeing them used on you. A large handful of my combos have been learned that way. Some notable examples would be piccolo's 2 grab and heavy corner extensions or solo midscreen double hellzone (not that one is a very practical combo, but fun as hell. Or at least i wasn't practical until now since we have lvl1 into lvl3s at limit break now.)
The 16 monologue was on point. Reminded me of that moment in the manga when Dr. Gero warned 18 and 17 to activate 16 because he was a malfunctioning experiment that was too powerful.
I really appreciate these videos! I am very new to DBFZ so it helps me apply stuff to the game. I played Teen Gohan yesterday and actually beat my first opponent... His L autocombo is just so good LOL
i love this character so much he builds all the bar and is just badass in general
the loops are definitly some of my favorite loops in this game, with blueku and base vegita
Does this guide still stand true as of todays DBFZ update and things
@@dezziemoris7691 can’t guarantee it but I’m pretty sure it is
@@dezziemoris7691 everything’s valid
Best guide I've seen so far. Plus its very entertaining as well. I also love that you used the dramatic finish for an insider. Sub + Thumb! keep it up
Corner bnb with one assist feels so inconsistent when you get to the double bomb loop
Bruh, I found this channel. You deserve more subs. Love the content
I’ve got thank you you’ve upped my skill level entirely I even watch videos for characters I don’t play often so when I face them i know what to expect and how I can use their moves to my advantage
THANK YOU I REALLY WANTED A TEEN GOHAN GUIDE FROM YOU YOURE AMAZING
This character’s autocombo makes me wanna cry
it never works on good players, im a tohan main
oosagaツ lol it does more than just hitting people in neutral
Phasmania duhh
Phasmania i literally said im a gohan main theres so many ways to deal with it, barely use it unless someone is above me jumping too much
@@oosaga7155 such as?
The work that you're doing is OUSTANDING! Thank you!
These guides are so well done! You earned yourself a sub
Bro that thumbnail is hilarious 😂
And anyone not in the Premiere won't get to see it cause I'm changing it to the true thumbnail afterwards. Tragic, I must say
Damnit I couldn’t see the dialogue in the thumbnail what did it say?
@@TinyTorgue ohhhh
Damnit missed the thumbnail
The best FighterZ guides on the internet by far.
No ones channel should be this elite
Thank you so much for this! Teen Gohan is one of my favorite characters!
Bro it took me 2 sittings and 3-4 hours but I learned the universal bomb loops 😭😭 longest combo I’ve ever done thx
Bro now u got the drip combos it paid off
sameee but it's so satisfying to use online
You can delay each hit of the 5 hit combo to get really good corner carry. Doing this mid screen, combined with mixing lights and mediums, will basically get a wall bounce right at the corner. Can even DR from there.
Just woke up today and for some reason thought like playing teen gohan
Approaching gohan is never safe
This does bring a smile in my face…
Pls dont stop with the channel you are the best!
holy shit dude! your intros have gotten really nice LMAOO!
This guide was so awesome im definetly subbing
Gohan serves L's. Just....preferably in groups of 3
LLL, LLL, LLL 😂
that was a real fun one, nicely done!
The dbza bit was great. Also great info and vid super helpful
Love your videos man! Waiting for that 18 video one day.
So much to learn so mind boggling
This character is so wild. He can 2-touch you off almost anything and he can open you up just by blinking, but he doesn't get shit off DR or 2H unless you're really good with assist calls from that height.
been a tean gohan player for a long time, thanks for more mashing tools
Just found out your channel and it's so helpful. Thanks!!
Needed this! Thank you!!
4:31 eventually Gohan stopped thinking but then he died *space vacuum
Dude these videos are very good
Felicitaciones bro por 5000 mil subs mas vos podes segui asi
Merci, брат
Maaaaan your videos are the best wtffff
Great video. Helped a lot
That was the most OD ultimate optimal combo🤯
This was pretty good
Do Roshi next
That teen gohan mod with the cape wtf ?!?! So sick
also it is possible to get knock down after vanish confirm if in the corner. just delay the assist a tad bit and then jump and cancel immediately to dragon rush and it works!
TOD With Blueku and Baseku:
Spark, 2M5M, jMLL, jMS, 3S> SD delay > jMS, 3S, land, 236H (w/ Baseku Assist) > SD > jLLL, Kamehameha > Kaioken (S, 2S, Finisher) > Kaioken x 10 Kamehameha (extension)
I love that you're kicking cell's ass.
some of these are so tight my god man lol
At 2:54 ...you gotta be freaking Neo from the Matrix to see all of this stuff comin in the first place
9:30 sparky limit break and end with lvl 5 is a near TOD, 9850 damage. So basically after that you can do a mixup or vanish to finish if they are at full hp.
At that point you're better off ending with a Lvl3 to get better Oki, since the next hit will be in killrange anyways.
11:53 GG EZ TECH BEST FOR ONLINE
I originally picked him up back in the fighterz beta cuz teen Gohan is one of my favourite characters, little did I know the monster that I had chosen
WARNING TO ANY OTHER NEW PLAYERS TRYING TO PICK UP THIS OR ANY OTHER CHARACTER AND LAB THEN: do NOT pick a big body character to fight against in the lab. This may be a given for some but I didn't know this and chose Cell to practice combos on with T. Gohan and i was getting them down really well! Then I swapped to a 21 and couldn't hit any combos anymore because the way I was doing them doesnt translate to a character with a smaller hitbox. Absolutely infuriating. Don't make the same mistake I did.
If you are struggling with 08:16-08:45 try this: 2M5M-jMcjMLS-j3S-(delay)-SD-jMS-3S-(land)-236M~LMLM-SD-jLL2HcjLLL-A1-DR. You get more damage and if you practice enough is easy to do, the trick is to maint the input 3 when you do J3s and delay the sd enough is easy to know when you can hit the 236M because you're almos at floor level so the range to do that input is a bit wider.
I just don't understand how he doesn't get so close to the corner that his bombs still work. For the mid-corner, it just drops when I bomb him after the superdash.
Always wanted a tohan guide very cool.
I just came from Smash and...I think I'm gonna faint
Clean Gohan skin at the end
Stage mod makes it a little hard to see corner carry unless it's all the way to the actual corner
Yeah I agree, unfortunately I couldn't do much there without breaking immersion since I was trying to replicate Gohans and Gokus training in the time chamber
Does the midscreen 214L TOD only work on big bodies? I'm refering specifically to the jLMH > j236[L] part
It doesnt seem to be universal at the end yeah, had someone else comment about the same issue a while ago
lowkey new respect i have for tohan players. didnt know this guy was this execution heavy.
Issue is most players dont do these things lol
When is the tien guide coming
Tien players exist?
Yes and its me 😭
@@TinyTorgue There are like, 5 of us
TinyTorgue indeed i just added Tien to the team his great
Hey I really need some help with the bombs, is there like an specific way to press the button when you do those? Because I always got only one, barely two, I've seen videos and pro players getting even 3 and not much of high ground, but if I mash I don't get even two or if I wait is the same thing, I'm getting desperate lol
same, doesnt make sense
@@jaxen91392 years later and I’m still having the same problem. When I do just the bombs I get consistent 2 bombs. Then when I go to combo with it, it’s seemingly random. I’m sure it’s not, but it’s a little frustrating not knowing what I’m doing different
9:30 onward: I have a question regarding multiple bombs links - is the input really j3SS or is it actually j3S3S, cause they always recover when I try to hit more than 1 bomb
j3SS is just a more condensed way to write j3S3S. The combo is strongly tied to distance to corner after Vanish, play around with the Vanish timing and try a little delay after Vanish too
@@TinyTorgue Thanks!
caped gohan mod DOPE
Still bas the best looking and most powerful level 5 in the game...for that reason alone I must main.
I beat all my friends because of you
I certainly hope you are beating them in the game, not irl
Hey TinyTorgue! thx for the great vid! in the bomb loop i tried adapting it to make the execution more consistent for me, can you tell me if this way would work? [2M5M > jLLS2S > SD > jLLS2S (land) 236H ...]
Hey torgue, I was wondering if tohan/trunks/baseku would be a good team? Im just not sure on the arrangement.
I wouldn't put Baseku on any team where both other characters can't combo into Spirit Bomb. Tohan and Baseku are great together, but instead of Trunks I'd pick someone else who has Spirit Bomb synergy.
@@TinyTorgue You mean trunks without tohan cant?
@@TinyTorgue oh shit nvm i might use beerus as mid, hes another character i like and it seems he can dhc into it himself🤙
4:31, eventually, they all stopped thinking
FINALLY YES
I needed this video so badly thank you so much for helping me learn more on how to woop ass buahahahh
LOL I LOVE THIS!! Today’s My Birthday! I’m Turning 19!
Happy birthday dude!
TinyTorgue Thanks!
Editing on this is crazyyy. Real solid video man. One issue though, with the bomb loop I can't get the 236M to connect consistently after the second j.3s? Not sure if there's a trick to the timing?
No trick, just tight timing
@@TinyTorgue ahh I see, didn't know if there was a visual cue when to input it, like j.3s bomb exploding to get the delay SD. Thanks anyway man you've defo earned a sub.
Torgue uploaded a new video? Time to main that character
Best guides.
Can you Majin buy next ?
Excuse me if my English is soso
Do you plan on doing the whole cast? And what will you do if a new patch comes out? Will you remaster? Or create a new video, you already remastered the freiza one, if you do, will you prioritise updating old characters or doing new characters? I'm waiting on Cooler and ssj ku, so i hope you get to them at some point, i hope you keep working on these great guides.
Yeah everyone's gonna get their guide eventually. New patches this late into the game shouldn't break characters but only add new stuff, so I probably wont have to redo the entire video (even if I do, I keep all the files and projects so I dont have to redo them from scratch). I'll prioritize more in demand characters, usually that's the buffed or new characters.
I was legit just thinking about this character
How do you get the second j.s to hit in the mid to corner combo? Sometimes it seems to hit and other times not
It's mostly dependent on the distance to the corner
horse eaten was the best part
Auto like just for the intro !
Ssj1 teen gohan looks great