This scene is so real for people who suffer from sensory overload due to mental illness, I actually cried in the movie theater. Such an amazing, underrated movie and actor.
While it does have relations to a mental illness, it's not limited to that. I have AD/HD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder), and one of the symptoms of that is Sensory Overload, like you mentioned. Hearing the simplest things like breathing, chewing gum, and even tapping annoys the shit out of me. But still, this scene captures it perfectly, and your comment points it out perfectly, so thank you!
I don't think it was just sensory overload. Notice that he started to hear it as a complex rhythm, showing that everything he hears is translatable to music.
I thought the looping was deliberate, to reflect the panic circling in Brian's head and to create apprehension/anxiety in the viewer too. Nonetheless, it works!
Rebecca the sound is created by Atticus Ross, also a member of Nine Inch Nails, it creates the intense suffering of his mental illness. nothing to do with a miscalculation of the sound guy, art stuff.
@@sharonjheeta222 plus the looping has a slight rhythm to it, a way of reflecting Brian's thought process and how his brain could make musical sounds out of anything
My daughter and I watched this movie together, and she said this scene she could relate to. Shes schizophrenic and experienced episodes like this. I remember one time she was in her bedroom and could hear the clock ticking in the other side of the house so loud she screamed "make it stop"! and yanked it from the wall and threw it across the room. Let me just say this, we cant hear the clock ticking in the living room.
This scene as a person with autism along with other mental conditions like Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, PTSD, OCD and Adjustment Disorder, this scene is extremely accurate whenever I have a sensory overload. I literally cried and said "they got it right what we go through!" First time seeing this. Brian Wilson, thank you for inspiring me to continue being a musician despite my demons I have from the cruel abused life I suffered. Music saved me the same way it did to you and I'm glad you're safe and well Brian right now!
Have sensory processing processing disorder & bipolar, so this scene blew my mind (get it?) and sent shivers down my mind. Saw it in theaters during a horrible period in life full of emotional emptiness auditory hallucinations. Holy crap this film nailed what it feels like to lose your mind.
that, that’s it. that is misophonia. glad to have it depicted. like the sounds becoming increasingly loud and all you can hear and focus on, and just getting so upset and angry to the point of just yelling 👏👏👏
@@cloroxbleach5159 same with me. I get so upset and overwhelmed even if I know others can hear my chewing. When I have lunch at work I literally die inside
God, Marilyn was such a supportive wife! Eugene Landy fucked up Brian's mind so bad that he ended up offering drugs to his own daughter which led to Marilyn divorcing him! I really wish they could've stayed happy together!
In fairness Van Dyke is just kinda like that but Brian did definitely surround himself with a bunch of hippies who blew smoke up his ass and fed him drugs 24/7
Words can’t describe how choked up I was through what was basically the entire movie. my heart breaks for Brian, and the turbulent times he’s experienced
Sometimes when sat in the pub I've felt like this - not with utensils but when its packed full of people and all their conversations are going on at the same time, it just blurs into one big noise of incessant chattering. It doesn't make me want to leave the way Brian does here, but I've often stopped friends mid-sentence and asked them if we can talk outside instead because of it
I thought at first the utensil sounds were messing with the dialogue, and when they all quieted down and the sounds were getting louder that's when I thought it was really made to be...I hate silverware sounds during dinner...ugh...
I knew Wilson had hearing loss in one ear from childhood , but only learned recently that it was almost a complete loss. In a case like that the brain must compensate for that loss, and certain sounds become intolerable. I was hit on the side of my head a few years ago, one ear doesn't work. The scene depicted in the movie is accutate, but you learn to avoid situations. But in his case I think he used it to his advantage creating brilliant songs & recordings. I heard it said he could hear a fly speck on a sheet of music.
This was one of my favorite scenes in the film. It really does portray misophonia perfectly. Before it was even obvious that the silverware sounds were going to become overwhelming, it was starting to become unbearable for me while watching this scene. They did a really good job making each "tink" distracting--the sounds all seemed to "interrupt" whoever was speaking, which is a part of how I feel when certain sounds set me off.
Eating with my parents growing up was torture. As an adult I refuse to have dinners with them at the table. I eat in the living room where the sound of their slurping and chomping is muffled. They both eat so LOUD and seem totally oblivious to it. The crazy thing is that they made it known that table manners were important when I was at a very early age, so I chew with my mouth closed and hate noisy eating
I always wonder at this scene how realistic it is... For most of the movie Brian was shown mainly experiencing aural hallucinations, but this scene depicts sensory overload that's not shown in any of the other scenes. I'm curious to know if these symptoms often occur together. (And wondering a little if this scene ever happened, or if it's an artistic liberty.)
Probably not triggered by the other symptoms nor an actual symptom of his mental illness, but probably triggers the actual symptoms. For me, it causes me to have panic attacks/to freak out.
I mean it's very realistic in the sense that sounds such as that can be highly difficult to deal with for people with sensory processing issues. It's not necessarily realistic in how loud it sounded, but the point is to try and convey how uncomfortable the sounds make him feel to an audience that may not have this particular problem. If you watch that scene and your blood pressure/heart rate goes up, you feel anxiety, and you want nothing more than to make it stop, then the scene did its job. One caveat is that if you have hyperacusis they will sound quite a bit louder to you than the average person and the two things tend to go hand in hand quite often. I don't know anything about the person this movie is about though. I do however have sensory processing issues so severe that it makes it difficult for me to cope with daily life.
This movie was sooooo much better than Bohemian Rhapsody. Well, the younger timeline. The John Cusack part was, uhhh, not nearly as good. But we probably all know these things to be true.
I think the younger timeline was more interesting as it was the time most are more interested in and when the music that spoke so much to us was being made and during or before shit hit the fan, but the older Cusack parts were still very necessary because things were even worse for Brian that it was portrayed by the film, can't overlook that and I think that kind of strife speaks to people in different ways as well. Not as interesting, just as important
I don't know why they didn't just have Paul Dano play the older Brian. The two very different looking actors really took me out of the movie, and Dano was perfect as young Brian.
I'm autistic. This is very familiar to me. Sometimes worse than others, but it's a real problem most of the time. Another way to say it, for me, is that background sounds like foreground. Even youtube videos, some of them, where you have someone showing and telling, and there's music in the background, but for an autistic person, it's VERY foreground, and almost impossible to follow the words spoken.
Do I get the feeling that Brian may be autistic? He does show a ton of traits of that even before the breakdown he had in 64. I know because I'm autistic myself.
So I have ADHD. You'd usually think ADHD is about being hyperactive or not being able to complete tasks or sit still. There is an emotional and sensory part of it that has affected me harder. I go back and forth in emotions and I find anyone who talks a little too much to stress me out. I know it's not the persons fault inherently, but it's how I feel when overloaded with too much sound. My Sensory overload does come down to sound since I've always loved Music and it calms me down, but if someone interrupts or talks to much or something loud comes up, I can't emotionally handle it without coming off as an Asshole or way too irritable. This scene in a nutshell describes how I feel when overloaded with too much sound. I do break down that way and I do try to refrain from having those kind of reactions. I really have to admire this biopic so much for getting down why sound is so effective to me.
I am the same way. And the same about music. I'd rather just play my guitar. Or listen to a good album. Than listen to people drone on and on about what's on the news or what celebs are doing. And feel the same the same way when in this situation. Doubly so if I can't relate. I also do not like really public places with lots of people. Or really loud sounds. It drives me on edge. Along with certain sounds. It was way worse when I was a kid and had no control over ADHD. Which I learned to internalize as I grew up. So now instead of buzzing visibly. It's all going on in my head with endless thoughts and reams of contemplation.
Hey Bill Pohlad, where's Michael Vosse? Or David Anderle? Or Van Dyke Parks? Or Marilyn Wilson? Or Brian? This is nothing like what actually happened, way to go.
Yeah, maybe, but how did any of these events happen word for word within two hours? Kind of have a lot to shove in a film between two time periods of Brian's life's let alone one time period.
+Justin Plank Brian's whole point on this planet was SMiLE and if you don't understand SMiLE then you don't understand Brian. They skipped over California Girls, Brian's studio mastery, Phil Spector, Be My Baby, Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys doing animal noises for Barnyard, microphones on their heads, totally didn't get the mysticism of 1966, didn't address "Over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield", a lot of specific points in Brian's life were misrepresented.
I understand, I'd much rather see a whole film on the 60's era Brian than what was made, but alas, it was all up to Brian what he wanted...or Melinda...😉
+Justin Plank Well I plan to make a movie about Dennis Wilson around 1977 when he made Pacific Ocean Blue into the 80's that hints that there were demons from the 60's / things not addressed, then an epic documentary on the Wilson family and show with animation and the actual recordings of Brian in the studio in real time with Hal Blaine and Carol Kaye and everyone else from the Wrecking Crew.
This scene is so real for people who suffer from sensory overload due to mental illness, I actually cried in the movie theater. Such an amazing, underrated movie and actor.
While it does have relations to a mental illness, it's not limited to that. I have AD/HD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder), and one of the symptoms of that is Sensory Overload, like you mentioned. Hearing the simplest things like breathing, chewing gum, and even tapping annoys the shit out of me. But still, this scene captures it perfectly, and your comment points it out perfectly, so thank you!
Cyberpunkqueen or it could be of Brian’s drug use
Cyberpunkqueen ur right. This scene does an amazing job of capturing exactly how those ppl feel.
I don't think it was just sensory overload. Notice that he started to hear it as a complex rhythm, showing that everything he hears is translatable to music.
I agree this is a fantastic portrayal of what sensory overload feels like. I cried in the theater too.
When I first saw this I was thinking "Okay the sound mixing guy really fucked up" before I realized it was intentional haha
He did fuck up from looping the overlapping utensil sounds. You can tell.
I thought the looping was deliberate, to reflect the panic circling in Brian's head and to create apprehension/anxiety in the viewer too. Nonetheless, it works!
Rebecca the sound is created by Atticus Ross, also a member of Nine Inch Nails, it creates the intense suffering of his mental illness. nothing to do with a miscalculation of the sound guy, art stuff.
Not really a miscalculation, it shows the way I feel sometimes when I'm going through a sensory overload.
@@sharonjheeta222 plus the looping has a slight rhythm to it, a way of reflecting Brian's thought process and how his brain could make musical sounds out of anything
All the freedom in the world...a musical genius...and all he wants is his fathers approval.
That was also a theme of Amadeus.
My daughter and I watched this movie together, and she said this scene she could relate to. Shes schizophrenic and experienced episodes like this. I remember one time she was in her bedroom and could hear the clock ticking in the other side of the house so loud she screamed "make it stop"! and yanked it from the wall and threw it across the room.
Let me just say this, we cant hear the clock ticking in the living room.
Damn
This scene as a person with autism along with other mental conditions like Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, PTSD, OCD and Adjustment Disorder, this scene is extremely accurate whenever I have a sensory overload. I literally cried and said "they got it right what we go through!" First time seeing this. Brian Wilson, thank you for inspiring me to continue being a musician despite my demons I have from the cruel abused life I suffered. Music saved me the same way it did to you and I'm glad you're safe and well Brian right now!
Best sensory overload ive ever seen on screen.
Yep, portrays what sometimes happens to me so well!
Have sensory processing processing disorder & bipolar, so this scene blew my mind (get it?) and sent shivers down my mind. Saw it in theaters during a horrible period in life full of emotional emptiness auditory hallucinations. Holy crap this film nailed what it feels like to lose your mind.
Honestly, I had watched this movie around the time of my first episodes. Just to realistic for me, the whole sensory overload thing.
that, that’s it. that is misophonia. glad to have it depicted. like the sounds becoming increasingly loud and all you can hear and focus on, and just getting so upset and angry to the point of just yelling 👏👏👏
This is why I eat in a room separate from my family. I don’t want to ruin their meals and I can not listen to them chew.
Yes. It is so helpful to know we are not alone.
@@cloroxbleach5159 same with me. I get so upset and overwhelmed even if I know others can hear my chewing. When I have lunch at work I literally die inside
God, Marilyn was such a supportive wife! Eugene Landy fucked up Brian's mind so bad that he ended up offering drugs to his own daughter which led to Marilyn divorcing him! I really wish they could've stayed happy together!
normal reaction when surrounded by hipsters
Lolllll
Underrated comment
For real. For me it wouldn't be the utensils but the actual content of the conversation.
In fairness Van Dyke is just kinda like that but Brian did definitely surround himself with a bunch of hippies who blew smoke up his ass and fed him drugs 24/7
This film is truly art.
and other films aren't?
@@drfunk1986 some aren’t
@@drfunk1986 They never said other films weren’t also art
Words can’t describe how choked up I was through what was basically the entire movie. my heart breaks for Brian, and the turbulent times he’s experienced
great scene great under-rated actor though..
Sometimes when sat in the pub I've felt like this - not with utensils but when its packed full of people and all their conversations are going on at the same time, it just blurs into one big noise of incessant chattering. It doesn't make me want to leave the way Brian does here, but I've often stopped friends mid-sentence and asked them if we can talk outside instead because of it
I thought at first the utensil sounds were messing with the dialogue, and when they all quieted down and the sounds were getting louder that's when I thought it was really made to be...I hate silverware sounds during dinner...ugh...
me too
Paul dano killed it in this movie
This part was crazy, it literally felt like I was watching myself. My mom started crying.
I knew Wilson had hearing loss in one ear from childhood ,
but only learned recently that it was almost a complete loss.
In a case like that the brain must compensate for that loss, and certain sounds
become intolerable. I was hit on the side of my head a few years ago, one ear doesn't work.
The scene depicted in the movie is accutate, but you learn to avoid situations.
But in his case I think he used it to his advantage creating brilliant songs & recordings.
I heard it said he could hear a fly speck on a sheet of music.
Damn. Very rare to feel a scene rather than just seeing it.
Actually I read in a book Brian asked the guests to keep banging the utensils so he could record it and put it on Smile.
Same here! There's a version of Vega-tables with clinking utensil sounds in the background.
This is what everything sounds like to me when I close my eyes.
Brian looking at the plates and forks and glasses is the way that I feel when I view close up things…
i love that we all thought for a second "man the audio guy fucked up the scene with those cutlery sounds"
This actor needs an award and Grammy 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Paul dano is a very good actor
This was one of my favorite scenes in the film. It really does portray misophonia perfectly. Before it was even obvious that the silverware sounds were going to become overwhelming, it was starting to become unbearable for me while watching this scene. They did a really good job making each "tink" distracting--the sounds all seemed to "interrupt" whoever was speaking, which is a part of how I feel when certain sounds set me off.
misophonia is not a real thing.
Ummm yeah it is.
***** Ummm no it's not.
prove it
Sounds like hypochondria to me
this scene was so real
No wonder Brian went insane with all those people speaking in only exposition at every dinner.
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This is what having misophonia feels like. I CANT NOT FOCUS ON ANYTHING EXCEPT THE DISGUSTING CHEWING SOUNDS AROUND ME.
This is how I feel at every meal ever
Eating with my parents growing up was torture. As an adult I refuse to have dinners with them at the table. I eat in the living room where the sound of their slurping and chomping is muffled. They both eat so LOUD and seem totally oblivious to it. The crazy thing is that they made it known that table manners were important when I was at a very early age, so I chew with my mouth closed and hate noisy eating
sick ass beat tho
That hallucination was creating a cool rhythm though
Never any noise-cancelling headphones around when you need them.
I always wonder at this scene how realistic it is... For most of the movie Brian was shown mainly experiencing aural hallucinations, but this scene depicts sensory overload that's not shown in any of the other scenes. I'm curious to know if these symptoms often occur together. (And wondering a little if this scene ever happened, or if it's an artistic liberty.)
Sensory overload is probably more of a trigger for other symptoms of his mental illness, not a symptom in and of itself.
@@ufotofu9 probably because I know that sensory overload can trigger panic attacks for me. So probably.
Probably not triggered by the other symptoms nor an actual symptom of his mental illness, but probably triggers the actual symptoms. For me, it causes me to have panic attacks/to freak out.
I mean it's very realistic in the sense that sounds such as that can be highly difficult to deal with for people with sensory processing issues. It's not necessarily realistic in how loud it sounded, but the point is to try and convey how uncomfortable the sounds make him feel to an audience that may not have this particular problem. If you watch that scene and your blood pressure/heart rate goes up, you feel anxiety, and you want nothing more than to make it stop, then the scene did its job. One caveat is that if you have hyperacusis they will sound quite a bit louder to you than the average person and the two things tend to go hand in hand quite often. I don't know anything about the person this movie is about though. I do however have sensory processing issues so severe that it makes it difficult for me to cope with daily life.
@@philj9594 I think that's how loud it sounded to him.
This movie was sooooo much better than Bohemian Rhapsody. Well, the younger timeline. The John Cusack part was, uhhh, not nearly as good. But we probably all know these things to be true.
I think the younger timeline was more interesting as it was the time most are more interested in and when the music that spoke so much to us was being made and during or before shit hit the fan, but the older Cusack parts were still very necessary because things were even worse for Brian that it was portrayed by the film, can't overlook that and I think that kind of strife speaks to people in different ways as well. Not as interesting, just as important
I don't know why they didn't just have Paul Dano play the older Brian. The two very different looking actors really took me out of the movie, and Dano was perfect as young Brian.
@@crixxxxxxxxx To be fair, Brian did look and sound ENTIRELY different in the late 80's/early 90's compared to himself in the 60's
Ehh i think it worked
@@JoshMarshain Not that the 80s part was unnecessary, just that Cusack wasn’t the right choice
The Foley recording artists must've had a lot of fun with this scene
Why does this sound like a longer version of the cooking sound effects from breath of the wild?
I'm autistic. This is very familiar to me. Sometimes worse than others, but it's a real problem most of the time. Another way to say it, for me, is that background sounds like foreground. Even youtube videos, some of them, where you have someone showing and telling, and there's music in the background, but for an autistic person, it's VERY foreground, and almost impossible to follow the words spoken.
Word! Maybe I'm autistic.
Do I get the feeling that Brian may be autistic? He does show a ton of traits of that even before the breakdown he had in 64.
I know because I'm autistic myself.
So I have ADHD. You'd usually think ADHD is about being hyperactive or not being able to complete tasks or sit still. There is an emotional and sensory part of it that has affected me harder. I go back and forth in emotions and I find anyone who talks a little too much to stress me out. I know it's not the persons fault inherently, but it's how I feel when overloaded with too much sound. My Sensory overload does come down to sound since I've always loved Music and it calms me down, but if someone interrupts or talks to much or something loud comes up, I can't emotionally handle it without coming off as an Asshole or way too irritable. This scene in a nutshell describes how I feel when overloaded with too much sound. I do break down that way and I do try to refrain from having those kind of reactions.
I really have to admire this biopic so much for getting down why sound is so effective to me.
I am the same way. And the same about music. I'd rather just play my guitar. Or listen to a good album. Than listen to people drone on and on about what's on the news or what celebs are doing. And feel the same the same way when in this situation. Doubly so if I can't relate.
I also do not like really public places with lots of people. Or really loud sounds. It drives me on edge. Along with certain sounds.
It was way worse when I was a kid and had no control over ADHD. Which I learned to internalize as I grew up. So now instead of buzzing visibly. It's all going on in my head with endless thoughts and reams of contemplation.
Conveys hyperacusis perfectly.
Great portrayal of what happens to me sometimes!
My brother has autism, he goes through that too.
@@oliviarichardson744 yea, I don't know if I have autism and I don't think Brian Wilson has autism either.
@@trinitylivingston1286 brian has "schizoaffective disorder", very different from autism, and a very sad disease to have
@FLLMALL I know and it sucks. I have some other health issues probably besides just autism too.
There's no such thing as freedom in the music industry!😏😏
I think this is why Paul dano was cast as the riddler
It’s the green shirt, isn’t it? LOL
I just realized Tyson Ritter from the all american rejects is in this lol.
dude. I get this.
The utensils are even making me annoyed
When you’re trying to have a nice dinner and someone freaks out in the middle of it.
Only thing that bothers me is that the sounds are looped.
Questhero101 true, scene is trying to say that the utensils in the film are “lagging” but I get the complaint
man actually it's a composition for the film
in the songtrack album there's a track that beggins with those sounds, for this scene
If you listen closely, you can hear some distorted bits of “God Only Knows...” it says so in the credits.
Max Schneider the singer of the new song lights down low is in this scene!
He plays Van Dyke Parks, who was Brian Wilson's songwriting partner when this scene happened.
i wonder if this really took place..
Imagine Brian in a school cafeteria
MAX!!!!!
True credtit goes to the sound foleys
Exactly, everyone complementing Dano, and yes his acting rules... but the editing and sound people deserve a beer
That sounded awesome.
It’s a beat I can vine to
Esta Glen Campbell en la cena?
1:33
Who does he say after Irving Berlin? I keep hearing "Kurt Vile" haha
You heard correctly ... Kurt Weill
@@andrewfoster6303 THANK YOU
They deleted the part where she says, "Anyone for white cake?" at the end.
shit this is me at family holidays.. 0_0
That have sensory overload mental health issues and I can tell you it's extremely terrifying..
Misophonia be like
Theres a Pink Floyd song somehere in all that chiming....
This scene is really uncomfortable
If you are justice please do not make so much noise
No one gonna mention how they make Van Dyke such a douche? 😭
oh baby i want my sensory overloaded
I also can’t stand the sound of clattering silverware and plates!!!
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Hey Bill Pohlad, where's Michael Vosse? Or David Anderle? Or Van Dyke Parks? Or Marilyn Wilson? Or Brian? This is nothing like what actually happened, way to go.
Yeah, maybe, but how did any of these events happen word for word within two hours? Kind of have a lot to shove in a film between two time periods of Brian's life's let alone one time period.
+Justin Plank Brian's whole point on this planet was SMiLE and if you don't understand SMiLE then you don't understand Brian. They skipped over California Girls, Brian's studio mastery, Phil Spector, Be My Baby, Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys doing animal noises for Barnyard, microphones on their heads, totally didn't get the mysticism of 1966, didn't address "Over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield", a lot of specific points in Brian's life were misrepresented.
I understand, I'd much rather see a whole film on the 60's era Brian than what was made, but alas, it was all up to Brian what he wanted...or Melinda...😉
+Justin Plank Well I plan to make a movie about Dennis Wilson around 1977 when he made Pacific Ocean Blue into the 80's that hints that there were demons from the 60's / things not addressed, then an epic documentary on the Wilson family and show with animation and the actual recordings of Brian in the studio in real time with Hal Blaine and Carol Kaye and everyone else from the Wrecking Crew.
+Mark Anthony best of luck!