Your english is fine - tomato (to-may-to) or tomato (to-mah-to) is okay either way, everybody all over the globe says either way just depends on where they live. Thanks for postings all of these videos and keep up the good work!
Excellent vid Stefan although I lost what you were doing towards the end after you applied the micro bevel and had a problem with the cut then moved on to resolve it. ATB.
For lack of time, I came across a stilt mark stick in the house, (for removing stilt marks from ceramic pieces after firing), these sticks are very course aluminum oxide, and work for me just fine, very affordable, and much more durable than paper
Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience. May I just ask, what effect would a stropping session after the sharpening part may have had on the sharpness of blade?
Stefan passed away sometime after his last upload. From my personal experience, what he was doing (micro bevelling) looks easy but I haven't been able to fully replicate his results. A very hard stone is needed for micro-bevelling (fine India, diamond plates, spyderco medium, super fine natural stones) I always end up stropping for best results but in my quest for a laser edge I often get carried away and over-strop which destrys the bite of the edge.
@@Resolute900 Anyway, back to your question. For stropping, I get the best results on the nap (flesh side) of good quality leather, using stropping compounds like Dialux (or similar). Even coarse componds do a great job if you don't get carried away and over-strop. You don't need 1-2 micron paste. I've tried that together with diamond pastes (4 bought and 1 made by myself) and while they do a great job they're not worth the cost. Yesterday, I experimented with micro-bevelling followed by stropping gently and stopping to check the edge (on newspaper) after just 1 pass per side and again after 1 more pass and so on. After about 3 passes per side, the edge didn't improve anymore and after about 7 passes, it strarted to degrade.
@@alexalexxis170 Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. I'm quite new to this. Is there a way to strop without compound and do you recommend a specific brand of strop?
@@alexalexxis170 Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. I'm quite new to this. Is there a way to strop without compound and do you recommend a specific brand of strop?
Recently I bought Norton India fine/coarse combination stone. I am also interested in getting Norton Crystolon combination stone as I prefer SiC abrasive for coarse work due to its aggressivnes ie speed of removal of steel...Could you tell me where I can purchase (online) Norton Crystolon combination coarse/fine stone? ps. I meant where in the EU area
Hi Stefan, is the Norton crystolon coarse a good Stone to use before The coarse and fine India combination Stone then going on to the Arkansas stones? Would that be a good order to use the stones in sequence?
The crystolon stones are useful for high carbide steels on high Rockwell hardness because they have softer bond and release abrasive so they cuts faster whit less applied force but wears quickly than India stones. India stones are perfect for narrow tools like chisels where bevels are smaller ergo the pressures are higher and you do not need to apply a lot of force to remove metal quick + they stay flat longer due to a stronger bond. India stones - for generic steel knives up to 60 HRc and tools like chisels. Crystolon stones - for steels above 60 HRc or for any cutting tools but more frequent flattening. It's great to have them booth or combo crystolon + combo medium India and soft Arkansas - that covers everything under the sun. Have a great day.
@@dimmacommunication Yes, although the india side won't cut as quickly because it's finer, it will give a sharper edge, but it depends on your needs. If you enjoy a toothier edge, then stop at the course side, if you want a finer edge then flip it over,,,, neither will put an edge on to shave with,,,,for that, I go to and even harder and finer stone, like a Hindostan, or black Ark, then I strop. But again, it depends on your needs
No. The restaurants near me hire outside sharpeners in large part because somebody always ruins their stones with a vegetable oil. After they've done it repeatedly the stone has a rubbery layer on/in it, and it makes it very hard to use.
This style of sharpening is just only for tomatoes,onions, fruits in kitcen,,,and may be for wood sculpture,,, For everybody thats want a heavy duty edge for ,,,everything,,,use a 400 grit,,600 at the most ,, cheap stone,,and strop BUCKSIDE. All the videos about polishing hair shave sharpening in youtube are just for impression ,,, this style out of tomatoes and kichen have limited practical use,,,,
the norton fine india is far from a super fine stone. If the claim of 30 micron is correct thats about 500 grit JIS or 360 ANSI.Which is equal to or LOWER than what your saying to use. Plus Its entirely possible to get a hair shaving edge paper slicing edge of of a course stone. Cliff Stamp has a video of a hair shaving edge off of a 24 grit stone. As for limited practical use. I would say that kitchen use is what vast majority of knife use is.
Man I wish I could micro bevel. You make it look so easy :) Awesome video. Thanks for sharing
Removing fatigue metal, that's a great tip, thanks.
Your english is fine - tomato (to-may-to) or tomato (to-mah-to) is okay either way, everybody all over the globe says either way just depends on where they live. Thanks for postings all of these videos and keep up the good work!
Nice work! I will now proceed to my sharpening bench and practice until I can create an edge so good.
Norton makes the IC-6, IC-8, and IC-11, 6", 8" and 11" combination Coarse Crystolon and Fine India. I have the IC-6.
RIP Stefan Wolf
Very practical video. Simple effective affordable
India stones are my favorite stones! Great video 👌
I wish norton would make that combination setup Stephen.
I may make that combination myself.ill check into what I need to buy.
Excellent vid Stefan although I lost what you were doing towards the end after you applied the micro bevel and had a problem with the cut then moved on to resolve it. ATB.
For lack of time, I came across a stilt mark stick in the house, (for removing stilt marks from ceramic pieces after firing), these sticks are very course aluminum oxide, and work for me just fine, very affordable, and much more durable than paper
Thank you very kindly for this tutorial sir. I tried with my Norton compass unfortunately ny knife got duller
Stefan. As wet dry paper is silicon carbide, could it be used for lapping the JB8 coarse fine stone? if so, what grit?
Never tried oil stones myself im a wet stone fan hehe like my naniwa professional stones. Would be fun to try theese stones how they compare
Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience.
May I just ask, what effect would a stropping session after the sharpening part may have had on the sharpness of blade?
Stefan passed away sometime after his last upload.
From my personal experience, what he was doing (micro bevelling) looks easy but I haven't been able to fully replicate his results. A very hard stone is needed for micro-bevelling (fine India, diamond plates, spyderco medium, super fine natural stones)
I always end up stropping for best results but in my quest for a laser edge I often get carried away and over-strop which destrys the bite of the edge.
@@alexalexxis170 I am devastated to hear that. My condolences to his family and subscribers. Truly a legend that left a legacy behind.
@@Resolute900 Anyway, back to your question.
For stropping, I get the best results on the nap (flesh side) of good quality leather, using stropping compounds like Dialux (or similar). Even coarse componds do a great job if you don't get carried away and over-strop. You don't need 1-2 micron paste. I've tried that together with diamond pastes (4 bought and 1 made by myself) and while they do a great job they're not worth the cost.
Yesterday, I experimented with micro-bevelling followed by stropping gently and stopping to check the edge (on newspaper) after just 1 pass per side and again after 1 more pass and so on. After about 3 passes per side, the edge didn't improve anymore and after about 7 passes, it strarted to degrade.
@@alexalexxis170 Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. I'm quite new to this. Is there a way to strop without compound and do you recommend a specific brand of strop?
@@alexalexxis170 Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. I'm quite new to this. Is there a way to strop without compound and do you recommend a specific brand of strop?
Recently I bought Norton India fine/coarse combination stone. I am also interested in getting Norton Crystolon combination stone as I prefer SiC abrasive for coarse work due to its aggressivnes ie speed of removal of steel...Could you tell me where I can purchase (online) Norton Crystolon combination coarse/fine stone?
ps. I meant where in the EU area
Nice sharpening. But i 🤢 when i see people dull their edge on purpose.
He mentioned that he does it to remove stressed metal at the edge, but I agree with you.
Good stuff as always!!!
Hi Stefan, is the Norton crystolon coarse a good Stone to use before The coarse and fine India combination Stone then going on to the Arkansas stones? Would that be a good order to use the stones in sequence?
The crystolon stones are useful for high carbide steels on high Rockwell hardness because they have softer bond and release abrasive so they cuts faster whit less applied force but wears quickly than India stones. India stones are perfect for narrow tools like chisels where bevels are smaller ergo the pressures are higher and you do not need to apply a lot of force to remove metal quick + they stay flat longer due to a stronger bond. India stones - for generic steel knives up to 60 HRc and tools like chisels. Crystolon stones - for steels above 60 HRc or for any cutting tools but more frequent flattening. It's great to have them booth or combo crystolon + combo medium India and soft Arkansas - that covers everything under the sun. Have a great day.
@@stefanwolf88 thank you!! Great info
Your English is pretty good from what I've seen. Don't be too hard on yourself lol
Eh could be better :P
Great Video Man.
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But what's the point of the india ? I would deal with the messy crystolon cause it's an amazing coarse stone , but why the india ?
The india stone has a finer grit than the crystolon so it gives a sharper edge
@@thomasgronek6469 Yes but I've bought the crystolone cause it's hard silicone carbide , don't think the india would be comparable
@@dimmacommunication Yes, although the india side won't cut as quickly because it's finer, it will give a sharper edge, but it depends on your needs. If you enjoy a toothier edge, then stop at the course side, if you want a finer edge then flip it over,,,, neither will put an edge on to shave with,,,,for that, I go to and even harder and finer stone, like a Hindostan, or black Ark, then I strop.
But again, it depends on your needs
@@thomasgronek6469 Actually I don't have needs since I already have good stones for everything , but thank's for the suggestion 😃
@@dimmacommunication and thanks too, I enjoyed the chat
You DIDN'T mention what the grits are!
norton doesnt really have a listed grit rating on their crystalon and india stones.
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 Norton Crystolon Coarse 120, Medium 180 and Fine 320.
is oliveoil any good for those kinda stones?
Παναγιωτης Γκιωνης No! It will oxidize.
No. The restaurants near me hire outside sharpeners in large part because somebody always ruins their stones with a vegetable oil. After they've done it repeatedly the stone has a rubbery layer on/in it, and it makes it very hard to use.
I used mineral oil on my oil stones
This style of sharpening is just only for tomatoes,onions, fruits in kitcen,,,and may be for wood sculpture,,,
For everybody thats want a heavy duty edge for ,,,everything,,,use a 400 grit,,600 at the most ,, cheap stone,,and strop BUCKSIDE.
All the videos about polishing hair shave sharpening in youtube are just for impression ,,, this style out of tomatoes and kichen
have limited practical use,,,,
the norton fine india is far from a super fine stone. If the claim of 30 micron is correct thats about 500 grit JIS or 360 ANSI.Which is equal to or LOWER than what your saying to use. Plus Its entirely possible to get a hair shaving edge paper slicing edge of of a course stone. Cliff Stamp has a video of a hair shaving edge off of a 24 grit stone.
As for limited practical use. I would say that kitchen use is what vast majority of knife use is.