It's kinda limited in terms of design because the CPU can get up there in temperature, which in turn can cause damage to the battery. If Microsoft did want to lob a bigger battery in this, they might have to completely redesign the entire thermal architecture of this machine. This is the case with the Surface Book line too. I wouldn't recommend any Surface product without dedicated cooling for any extended workloads for this reason.
@@mmoarchives2542 At under 200$ per kWh, I think the 2$ that it would cost to go from 27Wh to 37Wh would be worth it. I mean i'd pay 2$ more for that 🤷🏻♂️
@@IsiahHD If they would stop using glue to stick the battery to the chassis.. it wouldn't matter about heat.. the CPU is far enough from the battery + it's being passively cooled. Gluing in batteries is phones/these devices was always a bad idea. Edit: Pull Tabs are the cheapest and easiest way to keep the battery in position.. but remove in case of the need to change.. Ironic seeing Apple doing this for all their products(Not sure about the Macbooks) but no one is learning the good Apple actually does.
it's nice to see Microsoft heading in a repairable direction with the surface laptop 3 and this. I am looking forward to the new surface book teardown to see if it follows this pattern
@@jashsu you only remove a battery once it's dead, at that point yes it's annoyingly hard but the fact that you damage it in the process means nothing.
We did check, just didn’t show the checking since the result was the same. :/ Sorry, that could have been more clear! Hopefully one day they’ll make those batteries easier to remove. -Taylor
Only if u had high knowledge on electronic repair or schematics that would be possible, it seems promising for future repair and rework with those "easy to remove" heat shields tho, Quick 861w can hack it wirhout a drop of sweat for sure
@@falcy2889 whatever, I bet you don't even know how to identify PPBUS in an electrónic device or a short to ground and damaged components using diode mode
Are the black metal shields actually necessary or just there to comply with some regulation/standard? If they are "optional", how much weight can be saved by removing them?
The plastic antennae frame is very delicate, and when only replacing the screen is required, cleaning the foam tape adhesive off the antennae's very thin black film cover which has the antennae lead traces attached to it can be challenging, you must be super gentle when cleaning over top of antennae, or it will tear.
so..... The Million dollar question then is this.. (Good video by the way) HOW DO WE FIX THIS..... if your SURFACE GO is stuck in redundant loop - you turn it on via the Power Button - it powers up - You see the Logo - it says "PREPARING" - a Blue screen Flashes - the process repeats itself infinitely TROUBLESHOOTING... - Pressing the UP Volume button does get you into the BIOS Menu without any drama's and everything works fine at this stage - It DOESN'T Automatically enter recovery options after 2 Reboots - it doesn't enter recovery Mode if you press the DOWN Volume Button (meaning.. the sequence of Power then volume down) - it won't boot from a bootable USB - You can't recovery it using Android SDK (Software Developers kit) - The bottom line is ....... IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RE FLASHED OR...... HAVE THE O/S RELOADED I strongly doubt that the unit has Hardware problems THE ISSUE IS the unit did an update I suppose it tried to go into recovery after that the blue screen is the Unit trying to re install the recovery image BUT CLEARLY THE IMAGE IS CORRUPTED and can't install and crashes and then reboots to re-attempt to no avail infinitely Now.. one would think YOU WOULD TEAR IT DOWN TAKE OUT THE STORAGE VOLUME WIPE IT , OR BUY A NEW ONE AND FORMAT IT AND START FROM SCRATCH however , as far as i can tell the storage is soldered directly to the PCB i mean... i can of course crack out my de-soldering and reflow station but.... LMFAO........ SHOULD I REALLY HAVE TO ? LMFAO i can't see normal end users needing to desolder an I.C. because Microsoft decided to solder it to the board. there MUST BE a simpler solution something that forces the boot from USB so that it wipes the existing image and installs and deploys a new good working one Any ideas ?
Fish the iPad does have the advantage of using an SOC meaning they can shrink everything down. The chip is also more efficient on the Ipad so they can pack everything a tiny bit closer and that also helps
Can i pads run Windows? This is the question here We have iPhones for that Mobile os but what's the need of mobile operating system on an powerful chunk of device😒😒
Do you think it is possible to pair the Go2's screen with Go1's body? They have the same physical footprint so I just had some wild idea. What do you think?
Replaced cracked screen and now it won't power on with battery alone, has to be plugged in. I was super careful, what did I do wrong, it doesn't seem to be a charge issue as it had 42% left, now it won't charge past that or power on with battery. Help????
Update 12/29/22 Ordered new battery powers on fine now. This unit was used outside in a drive thru restaurant setting for taking orders in the hot sun. It was in a protective case, and had screen protector, but still had a cracked screen and was replaced mainly because the battery wouldn't hold much of a charge. Didn't notice any issues though prior to attempt of replacing screen, best guess why it didn't power on after screen replacement and now does with new battery, was old battery was likely damaged due to overcharging and being overheated, and I unfortunately saw the last power on life cycle it had left. Replaced battery and unit charges fine now, has been working perfect for the past 2 weeks.
@@kisong1960 You can literally download the drivers from the Microsoft website. They provide in case you do a clean install of Windows on Surface devices.
What type of adhesive do I use when I reassemble this and where can I get it also where can I get the plastic tools I will check your website. I have never disassembled a tablet but I just bought 10 surplus Surface Go 2 tablets model 1927. These were used in a ClearMe Corporation kiosk nine out of the 10 units had a UEFI BIOS password lock. And I was told that the only way I can clear it is to remove the BIOS chip soldered to the motherboard and replace it. I'm not sure if I'm going to do that or not since I've never tried it but the BIOS chip is sold on eBay for about $24. I did list one of the Surface Go 2 for $125, if I end up selling them at that price I may not worry about the BIOS replacement. Since these are selling in good working condition for about $250 to $300. It may not be worth the time and effort it takes to replace the BIOS.
can you switch ram 4gb to 8gb in surface go 2? I need this cause I can't use adobe premier pro to edit videos. Can we do anything to the internal storage? Its pretty low.
I have to wonder: how repairable can you make a device, while still keeping it water and dust resistant? Is there a way to make it where you could allow the consumer to reapply the water protective seal so, after you repair it, you can keep the original integrity of the phone's water rating?
Of course you can. Repair-ability isn't hindered by water / dust ratings, but by corporate greed. Just look at Apple's business model: when a device gets old, instead of offering high-quality battery replacements and services, they slow down your device and (practically) force you to get a new one.
I don't mind, it's harder to screw components up if you are doing a repair that way and reduces the need of a microscopd, Also I don't see any of the pesky IC goo that usually comes on Apple devices, it should be a charm to flip and replace chips on that sucker
If it isn't soldered onto the motherboard than it would have been a separate part making it easy to replace. Basically you don't need a special tool that a average homeowner wouldn't have to put in a new usb-c if damaged.
Short answer: No Longer answer: Unless a connector that allows direct access to the SSD has been fitted (some previous MacBook models had such a connector, but the more recent ones have done away with it) and you have the appropriate device to connect to that connector, then you don't stand a chance
The thing that kills me about most modern thin and light is soldered storage, I mean what about if your PC dies for a or b reason? All your files die too? With my other devices it's just a matter of taking out the hdd or ssd, until now only have one thin and light: the Samsung Chromebook pro and it's been a nightmare the wifi stopped working correctly and of course it's soldered so there you had it a mostly unusable 500 bucks device, really hate the all soldered devices
Get a hot air station and git gud at using it if that is bothersome to u, It's a really useful skill even if you don't have a repair business and it gives u a ton of skill and cred if you are in an engineering field
Realistically speaking, the best measure to guard against data loss isn't removable storage, its BACKING UP YOUR DATA. I've been there lost some pretty important files 10 years ago, because of some terrible firmware on those early SSD controllers killed the raid and I lost all my data. I consider data recovery of failed hardware as more of a convenience more than a necessity, because it only guards against hardware failure that's not the storage medium itself. If you want a true guarantee do what you are supposed to and back up data.
Since display and battery replacements are the most common repair, iPhones lead! Screen repair is very easy on iPhones, and battery repairs just as easy. (We talk abt physical repair not the lockdown systems build into iOS as these are just retarded) So for me the surface is less repairable, because the battery is permanently glued in! Also on iPhones replacing speakers, dock connector etc is pretty easy too. As I said the only thing holding back repairability on iOS is the lockdown system
Watching the video without my glasses @1:04 "Did they just put a Adobe AE timeline screenshot in the video??" *Went to grap my glasses Nope! it's just the battery and the motherboard 😅😅
With the 2030 SDG goals coming, I think we are 3-4 product generations removed from returning to fully modular devices. By 2024, a device like this will be scoring a 6-7/10 for repairability as 80%+ modular devices become the norm (again). Hopefully, if any good comes from the coronavirus, it will be the acceleration of this timeline due to the reevaluation of logistics chains and resource utilization.
so you cant upgrade the way to low 64gb harddrive? that makes the thing almost unusable if you think about that windows itselve blocks more than half of it. that means about 30 gb for everyting else. what you gonna do with that? save 10 mp3s and 50 pictures? we are not in the 90s anymore.
No, because it isn't an SoC. Lots of things like the WiFi radio and Sound chip still exist as separate chips on the board. So thusly, this is only a processor (CPU+GPU+Memory controller+PCI-E). An SoC has basically everything integrated apart from storage and ram.
first of all , also the usb and display ports are soldered on desktop motherboards, so why it should be different. sometimes your review has no meaning really.
If Microsoft can pull off a super repairable surface device that you don't need a freaking IR station to upgrade RAM, Cpu and storage, I wouldnt bother if Bill wants to chip us, hell, I would use my 5g mark of the beast chip to unlock my 3rd world $399 super repairable microsoft surface lmao
Why electronics are out of reach of common people, in books they teach that technology is for better of human race but in reality it is only for the 10% and whatever they release i cannot afford to buy.
For a device that is so slow you cant make the motherboard soooooo HUGE. You should try to make a similar motherboard as small as in the Macbook 12 inch and the rest of space dedicated to battery. And another thing... If surface is meant to be premium.. a Surface go should have also a fast enough processor, not that thing... I wouldnt even try to have more than 10 tabs open in the browser... And a battery glued to the battery makes the device a 4 years old device... Every device should be able to have their battery easily replaced at least 1 time in their life to extend its lifetime like in all the Macbooks... No one is going to be 20 years with a device, but make it at least a easy 8-10 years with an easy battery replacement.
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Nice to see repairability improvements on surface devices
yeah unlike apple devices that sues you for trying to repair them
Or schematics
MMO Archives Apple doesn’t sue individuals for trying to repair their devices that’s just bullshit talk right there
@@nicko9799 They refuse to service after you opened it unlike Microsoft or other OEMs
I bought your $75 phone/tablet repair kit to support your business. Thank you for the work you do.
There's lots of room in there for a larger battery, Microsoft...
then you would be bitching about the bigger price of it
Where the fuck do you see space for more batteries? 😂
It's kinda limited in terms of design because the CPU can get up there in temperature, which in turn can cause damage to the battery. If Microsoft did want to lob a bigger battery in this, they might have to completely redesign the entire thermal architecture of this machine. This is the case with the Surface Book line too.
I wouldn't recommend any Surface product without dedicated cooling for any extended workloads for this reason.
@@mmoarchives2542 At under 200$ per kWh, I think the 2$ that it would cost to go from 27Wh to 37Wh would be worth it. I mean i'd pay 2$ more for that 🤷🏻♂️
@@IsiahHD If they would stop using glue to stick the battery to the chassis.. it wouldn't matter about heat.. the CPU is far enough from the battery + it's being passively cooled. Gluing in batteries is phones/these devices was always a bad idea.
Edit: Pull Tabs are the cheapest and easiest way to keep the battery in position.. but remove in case of the need to change..
Ironic seeing Apple doing this for all their products(Not sure about the Macbooks) but no one is learning the good Apple actually does.
it's nice to see Microsoft heading in a repairable direction with the surface laptop 3 and this. I am looking forward to the new surface book teardown to see if it follows this pattern
3/10 is a bit harsh, the main thing anyone will change is the screen and it's basically a 2 second swap now.. would at least give 4 to 5 out of 10
Screen and charging port. And the screen is still glued in place.
@@DumahBrazorf so is every iPad ever made... At least it's not cement this time
@@slicey80 Well, to be fair they did also give the Ipad pro 2020 3/10 in term of repairability score
@@jashsu you only remove a battery once it's dead, at that point yes it's annoyingly hard but the fact that you damage it in the process means nothing.
All batteries are an inevitable replacement.
THANKS to this channel I was able to buy the base Surface Laptop 3[$699 at the time] and upgrade the 128GB M.2 2230 to 1TB myself for about $120US
I feel that it deserves more of a 4 or 5 relative to other Microsoft tablets.
Its not relative to just microsoft tablets though. Its comparing to everything else.
@@joshuaham1022 Still, they may have forgotten about the airpods then.
@@filip9587 I agree.
1:20 that is not a Little Lego connector.
We know
Indeed
Maybe adding for about 2 or 3 mm thickness, so ram and SSD be removable, adds battery and cooling.
The battery could have been made easier to remove, but you didn't even try.
yeah seriously... I thought that was really weird too.
We did check, just didn’t show the checking since the result was the same. :/ Sorry, that could have been more clear! Hopefully one day they’ll make those batteries easier to remove. -Taylor
@@iFixitYourself Oh, alright. Thanks for letting us know!
@@iFixitYourself Do you have a video showing it being removed?
@@iFixitYourself don't make the video too short !! Let it be 10 minutes , who cares ?
Scratches at level 6 and deep grooves at level 7...
Wrong channel , this one is linked with repairing devices unlike the other one...
its easier to get inside for repairs... too bad theres barely anything in it to fix.
Only if u had high knowledge on electronic repair or schematics that would be possible, it seems promising for future repair and rework with those "easy to remove" heat shields tho, Quick 861w can hack it wirhout a drop of sweat for sure
The Tech From Heaven ummmmm no
@@falcy2889 whatever, I bet you don't even know how to identify PPBUS in an electrónic device or a short to ground and damaged components using diode mode
@@thetechfromheaven
Louis Rossmann has entered the chat
Are the black metal shields actually necessary or just there to comply with some regulation/standard? If they are "optional", how much weight can be saved by removing them?
The plastic antennae frame is very delicate, and when only replacing the screen is required, cleaning the foam tape adhesive off the antennae's very thin black film cover which has the antennae lead traces attached to it can be challenging, you must be super gentle when cleaning over top of antennae, or it will tear.
Can't wait for the Go 3 teardown!
That is a beefy motherboard. Also, explains why it's still kinda expensive, look at how much metal they used.
but then again f you look at what apple is doing there is less stuff but way more expensive then this computer which makes no sense at all.
@@ethanramirez9713Because Apple has its own CPU plus their software is designed for its exact hardware
Both have their pros and cons
I remember the times when heating and prying something open with guitar picks was called impossible to repair on this channel.
so..... The Million dollar question then is this..
(Good video by the way)
HOW DO WE FIX THIS.....
if your SURFACE GO is stuck in redundant loop
- you turn it on via the Power Button
- it powers up
- You see the Logo
- it says "PREPARING"
- a Blue screen Flashes
- the process repeats itself infinitely
TROUBLESHOOTING...
- Pressing the UP Volume button does get you into the BIOS Menu without any drama's and everything works fine at this stage
- It DOESN'T Automatically enter recovery options after 2 Reboots
- it doesn't enter recovery Mode if you press the DOWN Volume Button (meaning.. the sequence of Power then volume down)
- it won't boot from a bootable USB
- You can't recovery it using Android SDK (Software Developers kit)
- The bottom line is .......
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RE FLASHED OR...... HAVE THE O/S RELOADED
I strongly doubt that the unit has Hardware problems
THE ISSUE IS
the unit did an update
I suppose it tried to go into recovery after that
the blue screen is the Unit trying to re install the recovery image BUT CLEARLY THE IMAGE IS CORRUPTED and can't install and crashes and then reboots to re-attempt to no avail infinitely
Now.. one would think YOU WOULD TEAR IT DOWN
TAKE OUT THE STORAGE VOLUME
WIPE IT , OR BUY A NEW ONE AND FORMAT IT AND START FROM SCRATCH
however , as far as i can tell the storage is soldered directly to the PCB
i mean... i can of course crack out my de-soldering and reflow station
but.... LMFAO........ SHOULD I REALLY HAVE TO ?
LMFAO
i can't see normal end users needing to desolder an I.C. because Microsoft decided to solder it to the board.
there MUST BE a simpler solution
something that forces the boot from USB so that it wipes the existing image and installs and deploys a new good working one
Any ideas ?
Am I missing something, or is there a reason to removing all the shields.
To see if it was repairable I guess
For people who want to attempt fixing it on their own if something breaks
Looks like a solid device
Why is the logic board so large? iPads have a tiny motherboard.
Ipads are designed to be used as mobile devices. these systems are more complicated and need larger motherboards to fit all of the components
@@noahbromberg3675 the different architecture isn't the reason for it, it's the optimisation of the board and IO
Fish the iPad does have the advantage of using an SOC meaning they can shrink everything down. The chip is also more efficient on the Ipad so they can pack everything a tiny bit closer and that also helps
Can i pads run Windows?
This is the question here
We have iPhones for that Mobile os but what's the need of mobile operating system on an powerful chunk of device😒😒
@@ZiyadMullick mobile cpus wont work with windows because they cant process it
The review I have been waiting for!
Is that music a chill KK Slider remix or something
I wonder if changing the thermal paste will improve it like it did on apple mini mac
I do not see a surface repair kit I'm assuming I would buy one of the IPad repair kits to get the plastic tools to remove the Surface Go 2 screen
Do you think it is possible to pair the Go2's screen with Go1's body? They have the same physical footprint so I just had some wild idea. What do you think?
Can you do a Teardown for the Galaxy Tab S7 5G? Want to make sure the Battery can be replaced if needed.
is it led backlit? can't seem to find the answer anywhere on the internet
Replaced cracked screen and now it won't power on with battery alone, has to be plugged in. I was super careful, what did I do wrong, it doesn't seem to be a charge issue as it had 42% left, now it won't charge past that or power on with battery. Help????
Update 12/29/22 Ordered new battery powers on fine now.
This unit was used outside in a drive thru restaurant setting for taking orders in the hot sun. It was in a protective case, and had screen protector, but still had a cracked screen and was replaced mainly because the battery wouldn't hold much of a charge.
Didn't notice any issues though prior to attempt of replacing screen, best guess why it didn't power on after screen replacement and now does with new battery, was old battery was likely damaged due to overcharging and being overheated, and I unfortunately saw the last power on life cycle it had left.
Replaced battery and unit charges fine now, has been working perfect for the past 2 weeks.
Do the displays from the Go 2 and 1 use the same connector? Can you please try connecting the Go 2 display to the Go 1
Even if the hardware fits, the drivers might not be compatible.
@@kisong1960 You can literally download the drivers from the Microsoft website. They provide in case you do a clean install of Windows on Surface devices.
The surface go 2 has a 3500 mah battery. My iPad 10.2 has an 8800mah battery. We can see where corners were cut...
There's enough room inside for some modularity
Whats the point of the shields? It just makes the devices heavier...
Sell Latitude: Laughing in exchangeable charging ports ;-)
Change the soldered ssd with the 128 gb works on it?
where can I find this same "SURFACE GO 2" digitizer ??
Unrelated, but is there a teardown of the surface headphones? I kinda wanna see how repairable it is.
Do you need to remove the shields to change the battery?
Do you sell replacement speakers for the go 2? Where can I buy them.
Love this video! Can an i5 8250 be placed on this motherboard?
Can the CPU in the base model be upgraded from the Gold 4425Y to the Core m3-8100Y used in the higher-end model?
What type of adhesive do I use when I reassemble this and where can I get it also where can I get the plastic tools I will check your website. I have never disassembled a tablet but I just bought 10 surplus Surface Go 2 tablets model 1927. These were used in a ClearMe Corporation kiosk nine out of the 10 units had a UEFI BIOS password lock. And I was told that the only way I can clear it is to remove the BIOS chip soldered to the motherboard and replace it. I'm not sure if I'm going to do that or not since I've never tried it but the BIOS chip is sold on eBay for about $24. I did list one of the Surface Go 2 for $125, if I end up selling them at that price I may not worry about the BIOS replacement. Since these are selling in good working condition for about $250 to $300. It may not be worth the time and effort it takes to replace the BIOS.
is there any gopro schematics available? Such a poppular device how can it be repared?
consider making a shop at AliExpress some regions are not supported by ur web site or amazon
can you switch ram 4gb to 8gb in surface go 2? I need this cause I can't use adobe premier pro to edit videos. Can we do anything to the internal storage? Its pretty low.
I have to wonder: how repairable can you make a device, while still keeping it water and dust resistant? Is there a way to make it where you could allow the consumer to reapply the water protective seal so, after you repair it, you can keep the original integrity of the phone's water rating?
Of course you can. Repair-ability isn't hindered by water / dust ratings, but by corporate greed. Just look at Apple's business model: when a device gets old, instead of offering high-quality battery replacements and services, they slow down your device and (practically) force you to get a new one.
The flexible plastic strip on the underside of the stand of mine is coming off does anyone know how to get replacements...
Is the M3 version SSD upgradeable
Does the Go 2 have NFC? The older one had.
All we need now is an upgradeable and user replaceable RAM and SSD... shouldn't be too much to ask, eh?
I swear I am hearing K.K. Slider in the background tune.
No that's not him
What is the purpose o the black metal shields?
Where can I buy a screen for the original?
that steel chassis is lit
Surfare Go 2 with 128gb SSD are capable of SSD replacement? Or is soldered?
Most likely soldered
it's soldered.
Definitely soldered! It’s only the Surface Pro X that has the removable SSD.
y'all don't watch the video?
Could you do a tear down of the surface laptop go?
Louis Rossmann would shake his head at the soldered 64GB SSD
You gave the Apple Watch Series 6 a 6 on repairability score and a 3 to this device. Come on.
When do you upload a surface book 3 tear down ?
i wish you guys focused more on the actual repair instead of all the comparisons and technical specs
Can I add a pcie ssd in there? I know the 64GB SSD is soldiered on
I wish windows has its tablet version like for Desktop apple has MacOS and for mobiles they have iOS.
For some reason Microsoft still can't make a compact motherboard
I don't mind, it's harder to screw components up if you are doing a repair that way and reduces the need of a microscopd, Also I don't see any of the pesky IC goo that usually comes on Apple devices, it should be a charm to flip and replace chips on that sucker
See the amount of METAL inside this thing. THIS is what good thermals looks like. The macbook air with a fan that does absolutely nothing is a joke.
Holding onto my surface pro 4 until they come out with a more repairable one.
i read the surface go2 has a soldered SSD.
Why would the USB-C port not be soldiered? Can anyone explain this please?
If it isn't soldered onto the motherboard than it would have been a separate part making it easy to replace.
Basically you don't need a special tool that a average homeowner wouldn't have to put in a new usb-c if damaged.
Fancy!!!
Can I upgrade the surface go cpu
surface book 3 teardown next?Please
Does it mean you can upgrade the GPU?
Is it even possible to put removable RAM inside?
If they are willing to socket these chips like intel desktop cpus( ie lga ram chips)
Technicaly speakin it is removable if you have the proper tools
They could totally put at least 1 slot if they wanted.
Is there a way to recover data from a soldered ssd?
Short answer: No
Longer answer: Unless a connector that allows direct access to the SSD has been fitted (some previous MacBook models had such a connector, but the more recent ones have done away with it) and you have the appropriate device to connect to that connector, then you don't stand a chance
The thing that kills me about most modern thin and light is soldered storage, I mean what about if your PC dies for a or b reason? All your files die too? With my other devices it's just a matter of taking out the hdd or ssd, until now only have one thin and light: the Samsung Chromebook pro and it's been a nightmare the wifi stopped working correctly and of course it's soldered so there you had it a mostly unusable 500 bucks device, really hate the all soldered devices
Get a hot air station and git gud at using it if that is bothersome to u, It's a really useful skill even if you don't have a repair business and it gives u a ton of skill and cred if you are in an engineering field
Realistically speaking, the best measure to guard against data loss isn't removable storage, its BACKING UP YOUR DATA. I've been there lost some pretty important files 10 years ago, because of some terrible firmware on those early SSD controllers killed the raid and I lost all my data.
I consider data recovery of failed hardware as more of a convenience more than a necessity, because it only guards against hardware failure that's not the storage medium itself. If you want a true guarantee do what you are supposed to and back up data.
Background music is too loud.
Who cares!
deaf people: ...
Why only 3 out of 10 I would consider this to be more repairable than an iPhone
Aren't the parts in an iPhone more serviceable and modular¿ I don't see how this more repairable besides the adhesive
Yeah a 4/10 feels more fair. It is possible to repair the hole device. It's just that you have to replace big parts at once.
Since display and battery replacements are the most common repair, iPhones lead! Screen repair is very easy on iPhones, and battery repairs just as easy. (We talk abt physical repair not the lockdown systems build into iOS as these are just retarded) So for me the surface is less repairable, because the battery is permanently glued in! Also on iPhones replacing speakers, dock connector etc is pretty easy too. As I said the only thing holding back repairability on iOS is the lockdown system
Where’s the refreshed 13 inch MacBook Pro?
I hate it because of overheating
It's repairable probably because this is targetted towards schools. Kids drop computers on the daily.
Watching the video without my glasses
@1:04 "Did they just put a Adobe AE timeline screenshot in the video??"
*Went to grap my glasses
Nope! it's just the battery and the motherboard 😅😅
With the 2030 SDG goals coming, I think we are 3-4 product generations removed from returning to fully modular devices. By 2024, a device like this will be scoring a 6-7/10 for repairability as 80%+ modular devices become the norm (again). Hopefully, if any good comes from the coronavirus, it will be the acceleration of this timeline due to the reevaluation of logistics chains and resource utilization.
nah
When are you going to do the latest MacBook Pro 13 tear down? I am eagerly waiting for that.
Paras Desai same
if they bother to actually fill the place with a battery and offer an ARM version this thing should last 2 days straight
Stop comparing the Microsoft Surface Go and Pro that are PC's and not plain Apple iPad Tablets. PC to PC please in these tests+
so you cant upgrade the way to low 64gb harddrive? that makes the thing almost unusable if you think about that windows itselve blocks more than half of it. that means about 30 gb for everyting else. what you gonna do with that? save 10 mp3s and 50 pictures? we are not in the 90s anymore.
Isn't it time to start calling 'processor' system on chip SoC.
No, because it isn't an SoC. Lots of things like the WiFi radio and Sound chip still exist as separate chips on the board. So thusly, this is only a processor (CPU+GPU+Memory controller+PCI-E). An SoC has basically everything integrated apart from storage and ram.
And the Doug score is....
Can’t believe this thing did better than the iPad in this test
Surface Book 3 teardown?
at least its not as foldable as some others.. hint hint...
first of all , also the usb and display ports are soldered on desktop motherboards, so why it should be different. sometimes your review has no meaning really.
I why wonder why even in 2020 there are so many wasted space in a windows based gadgets
If Microsoft can pull off a super repairable surface device that you don't need a freaking IR station to upgrade RAM, Cpu and storage, I wouldnt bother if Bill wants to chip us, hell, I would use my 5g mark of the beast chip to unlock my 3rd world $399 super repairable microsoft surface lmao
where is that lady?
Nice
Why electronics are out of reach of common people, in books they teach that technology is for better of human race but in reality it is only for the 10% and whatever they release i cannot afford to buy.
Repairability means unlike anything you demonstrated. Repairability means, just using a screw driver.
Still jerryrig is best i think
For a device that is so slow you cant make the motherboard soooooo HUGE. You should try to make a similar motherboard as small as in the Macbook 12 inch and the rest of space dedicated to battery.
And another thing... If surface is meant to be premium.. a Surface go should have also a fast enough processor, not that thing... I wouldnt even try to have more than 10 tabs open in the browser...
And a battery glued to the battery makes the device a 4 years old device... Every device should be able to have their battery easily replaced at least 1 time in their life to extend its lifetime like in all the Macbooks... No one is going to be 20 years with a device, but make it at least a easy 8-10 years with an easy battery replacement.
3/10? I think they need to be more realistic about the tablet market and repair-ability. It’s not like there’s ever going to be a 9/10 or 10/10 tablet
Distrubing background audio please dont use again
Take the music out !