Santa Cruz Bronson Long Term Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2019
- Its time to talk about eh Bronson. The ups are slow but the flow and downs are amazing. Seth from Seth's Bike Hacks came along to help with some follow cam and enjoy a refreshing morning in Dupont. Hope you guys enjoyed my review of the 2019 Santa Cruz Bronson c S+ size large. see you on the next adventure son.
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I kinda like this Seth guy, maybe he should start a RUclips channel
Mr Avocado Man he dose have a RUclips channel it’s Seth’s Bike hacks
Gaming with Nate R r/woooooooosh
nah he shouldnt
r/wooooosh
R/woooooooosh
I've found that fitness counts for a lot. I ride an "enduro" bike as a trail bike and don't have any issue keeping up on the climbs with my riding buddies. However, they definitely struggle to keep me in sight when the trail points down.
everybody proud of the up hill times but we the high fives for being first down . Headed to Oak Mountain Enduro thus weekend
You sold me with the phrase "I never want to be under-gunned."
Lol. Send it.
Sweet vid, can’t beat a steady spin vid. You’ve have been one of the people that has inspired me to start my own channel.
Sweet man. Keep pushing
Sweet bike. I ride the previous Bronson version 2. Still going strong, been everywhere, handles all types of riding. Good to see you and MTB Alan holding it down for the Bronsons!
this thing is amazing
Great video man! Love Dupont so much, great to ride anytime of the year. Love the Bronson man and that grey color is really sick. Bronson is really a one bike quiver no doubt.
Totally agree
Really great video! Can't wait for the next inte!🤘🤘
Thanks brother.
One bike = Trail bike. Finally a RUclipsr willing to say what needs to be said. Go ahead, buy that downhill/enduro as a first bike, climb like shit, never progress, sell bike, repeat. Great thoughtful approach Kevin, cheers!
Thanks brother
How long ago would this be an enduro bike? Just like how the Remedy is now an “aggressive trail” bike 😁 Ride what fits your style and f&%k the label
Uh, that bike a few years ago would be considered an dh/enduro bike! Throw a 36 160 fork on there BOOM, EWS race bike!
Shut Up and Ride MTB & ebikes An Enduro bike isn't going to not make you progress. You not riding and not pushing your limit ain't making you progress, old man.
I have the same exact Bronson you have . Love the bike and how it rides. Lots of down hill days in NH and VT along with tons of cross county rides. The bike had handled it all for me.
Sounds like your in a good area. Still haven’t made it up there yet.
Adore that ace painting 😂
Great vid. I like how you break down the bike specs and state that it's your preference for how you ride. Definitely too many people insist the way they ride will work for everyone. As for the editing :p now we have a new steady, Mr calm glasses technical steady :p
What do you like better?
@@SteadySpin for your channel? Hard to say at the moment. But I do like how the dynamic of the other channels you show up on changes based on the channel to fit who you are working with and totally fits with how they do their videos. This format that you are doing in this video seems to be quite different than what the rest of the group of mtbs RUclipsrs I watch do and is unique to you which is awesome. Seth does his style, bkxc does his style, Syd and macky do their own style, and Bobo throws a frat party. For me this style of yours fits in as it shows your passion for riding, and this one especially reinforces that riding is unique to the rider and the do what works for you outlook on things. I like it. I also like seeing you have your snack food forcefully thrown out and yelled at for having it entertaining as well. But don't do what I like, do what you like for you. One thing I learned from creative endeavors years ago is do what you think is cool, in this world of 7 billion people there ARE other people who will find it cool too. But so far dude, you are fitting awesomely in the pantheon of mtb RUclips videos!!
Nice job man! Great to see you back riding! Trail bikes = perfect do-it-all bikes. Clint Gibbs just did a video comparing them with xc race bikes, I’m convinced.
One to rule them all.
Nice review. I own the same bike with the 2.5 and 2.4 tires and it handles everything really well. I’ve down bike park, flow, and decent climbs and it did the job.
We can both agree if somebody wants to climb all day I wouldn’t tag along in the first place.
What the heck! Bobo made you look like a maniac and then I finally look at your channel and you seem thoughtful and considerate. I feel like I've been lied to, but maybe in a good way.
Surprise. I’m a nice guy. Glad you found the channel.
Dude these videos are awesome
Thanks bro
Looks like a great all round bike. I ride a trail bike for my all round riding as well. Great in all conditions including some pretty gnarly downhill stuff.
next week i might highlight some gnarly rock gardens
i have the 2017 bronson carbon and will never get rid of it! Best bike I've ever had!
Nice mate ! Can say the same about my 2015 Bronson C! Have a Nice Day!
Keep it
4:59 I definitely agree with you, I plan on do it all bike, my riding involves so much different things on just a normal trail ride, I could use xc, trail, enduro, downhill in one ride, but I can't so I think best choice for me is a trail or enduro bike. I am definitely pushing the 120 bike to the limit, it's just enough to not bottom out I run Cush Core front and back, as it provides great benefits for the front tyre too, which allows me to not having to resort to volume reducers on my fork. it makes a huge difference in cornering too.
I think I got most of the things dialed, just need proper frame, and fork, dropper post.
Nice
i've gotta say i love the poster in the background
Rickey hooked that up
Just bought the carbon s after watching this. Great review
Kick ass.
Had our first visit to Dupont in July, the tree at 4:00 mark is where I separated my shoulder, great trail despite that it was bad riding on my part.
Man tuff pull. But I like live this trail.
Good review man. If I didn't love my HIghtower so much the Bronson would be my choice for an all arounder.
I wonder what the Mega Tower is like.
I owned the same bike and also think it's an all do bike. I just love it!
Great rig
That slippage you're talking about is the gap timing of the rear derailleur if it's SRAM, you have to time the gap with rider sag, it's the red plastic gap tool from SRAM, get one. Problem solved. Good luck, don't let the bozo bike shops sell you on more expensive parts.
Nice tip
im thinking prime 9
I love the bronson and the Tallboy they are two of my dream bikes hope you get your gear slippage issues figured out I know what a pain that is.
Fat guy perks. Lol
Steady Spin haha so true built in automatic transmisson
Good review. I'd love to ride a bronson for awhile. As far as a casette, I would likely just replace the GX 12 speed I'm currently running.
That seems the best idea for me as well.
Dope review! Sounds versatile.
Great bike
I think being comfortable on your bike is very important because I’ve hit 13 foot drops on a 120 mm trail bike because I love the way the bike feels
Totally agree. I want less travel
Agree on the wider rims, I have an HD4 with 2.6 DHF’s with the Ibis wide rims, love the grip & smash ability of wider rims and tires 👌🏻
For real !!!
Steady Spin love the wide rims so much just threw a set on my new SB150, with Cush core it’s seriously a game changer 🔥🔥
Love that trail..so much fun
For sure a good one.
I subbed for the Ace Ventura Rhino scene background.
i figured it was the best back ground poster for the shop
I’m having the same drive train issues as you, I ride a Pivot Mach6 carbon with an X01 drivetrain and just cannot keep it tuned. I’ll tune it and after a ride or two it’s back to gear slipping, this last spring I even took it to my LBS and had them tune on it. They said everything was right but then I go out and still have the slipping issues. I’m not hating on SRAM in the least, I’ve had good stuff from them but for this bike I’m considering going back to Shimano. As far as what you said about plus size wheels and tires I’m also running 2.6’s and absolutely love it.
I’m thinking about going prime 9 soon. At least the gears won’t jump.
I have check this place out looks fun. And the bronson is sweet bro
I love it.
7:37 sweet livery on that Mondraker Foxy
Nice ride
I have the previous years Bronson and love it. Curious if the lower suspension on newer Bronson’s feels a lot different.
No pedal bob any more.
I have the same bike as you I have done enduros and downhills on it. I completely agree that it is a all around bike and hilly recommend it
Boom
My 2019 BronsonV3 also have had gear slippage issues which I was fighting for a good 6 months. I eventually got it to disappear by a combination of changing the chainline, and proper technique. .
1) I think the chainline for the BronsonV3 is messed up. I have found that a NON-Boost Chainring seems to get the better chainline and slippage will decrease drastically if NOT completely.
2) Only happens when I am sloppy with shifting while in rolling terrain. It slips when I downshift then upshift too fast before before the gear even catches, then it will slip for a bit before it catches again.
3) On my BronsonV3, I am running 11 Speed XX1 Shifter and Rear Mech. E*thirteen TRS1 Pro Race Cassette, at first I thought it was the cassette because I had the XX1 Shifter and Rear Mech on my 2015 Nomad without issues at all.
4) I know how to adjust my Mechs. I am also sloppy at shifting with my other bikes. I have ran SRAM 11-speed X01 Setup and TRS-cassette on 2 other bikes and do NOT have any slippage issues. I also have XX1 Eagle on my Ripmo, and also no slippage issues on that bike either.
5) Seems SRAM is Drivetrain is very sensitive with cable tension, over time, I have tighten the cables to get proper "chain rest" between the cogs so the chain is not grinding on one side of the cog. If cable is not perfect, I have found slippage to increase.
6) NO MORE SLIPPAGE. I have got the slippage to totally stop now by a combination of using a non-boost chainring, and not being so sloppy with my shifting. I try not to up shift then quickly downshifting (going harder gear then immediately going to the easy gears). Like I said, I have always been a little slopping with my shifting on my other bikes, and never had an issue till I had my 2019 BronsonV3.
So good to hear, thank you for sharing. I will be the first to say I shift like a terrible person. But I have trashed my drive train. On my who knows how many chains, shift cables and 3 derailur. Park days are very tough on bikes.
I was lucky enough to ride both a Nomad and Bronson through DuPont recently (even ran into you and “the other guy” at the trailhead!). Even as a noob I think I could feel the slightly more “downhill friendly” geo on the Nomad. It puts your weight back while extending out your arms and legs a bit more, while the Bronson had me a bit more compact and upright. If I lived in that area, would consider the Nomad, but as a FL kid, the Bronson probably is better suited for our “mountains”.
I would agree.
Jeez, it’s like hearing myself talk about the Bronster. LOL same exact thoughts.
About to try out the coil on it.
Nice review. As a owner of a 5010 gen one, I am looking hard at the Bronson as there are times when I am in Pisgah I feel under biked.
What about a longer travel fork on your 50/10? I love your bike
You gotta take this baby out to trestle bike park in winter park Colorado if you ever can. I think that would be an amazing place for the Bronson. There are some really fun flow trails, and then the tech would be perfect. Along with that there is definitely more vert than snowshoe and windrock. I lived In GA and rode windrock every weekend the I moved out to Colorado, and with my experiences from riding trestle, and can say that it is really enjoyable.
I need to get up there for sure
Shimano xt 1×11 speed . Got almost 2000 miles b4 wearing out cassette,chain and chainring. Also pretty reasonable price and i really love the rapid fire shifter .
Nice
The BronsonV3 and the HD4 are 2 of the funnest bikes I have ever rented. I eventually ended up purchasing a Bronson because I like the Primer Gray color, and the frame design was also pleasing to my eyes. My Bronson is set up perfect now (for me).
I even prefer the Bronson over the Megatower for Park Days, and I do NOT think I will lose anything if I chose to Enduro Race my Bronson over the Megatower.
I rented the Megatower for 2 days from Golden Bike Shop, and for 1 of those days, I even took it to the Ski Lifts at Trestle Bike Park; I then rode my BronsonV3 next day, and found that riding both bikes back to back, that I still prefer my BronsonV3 over the Mega. It was easier to move around, and I felt even plusher (My Bronson has an X2 and 3 tokens; the Mega had the Super Deluxe Ultimate).
I have had my Bronson for 14 months now, and still have NOT found 1 bike worthy of replacing my Bronson; though this may change once I demo an HD5 ;-). I also currently own a Ripmo that is also set up pretty nice that I also love (-1.5 angleset, X2 shock), and honestly, and I would still pick the Bronson over the Ripmo if you forced me to choose only 1 bike.
Solid comparison, I kinda wish my setup was just a bit lighter. But at the same hand I’m cheap. Got the frame I wanted and then kooshcore. But I feel some upgrades about to happen. Broken seat, chain, dropper and need brake pads after this week with Paul the Punter.
Solid comparison, I kinda wish my setup was just a bit lighter. But at the same hand I’m cheap. Got the frame I wanted and then kooshcore. But I feel some upgrades about to happen. Broken seat, chain, dropper and need brake pads after this week with Paul the Punter.
Solid comparison, I kinda wish my setup was just a bit lighter. But at the same hand I’m cheap. Got the frame I wanted and then kooshcore. But I feel some upgrades about to happen. Broken seat, chain, dropper and need brake pads after this week with Paul the Punter.
I have done all types of riding from the flat trails of Florida to downhill in North Carolina on my Bronson. It’s a one and done bike. It will take anything you throw at it. Wouldn’t trade it for any other bike.
Nice
Hey great video, you are on a size large just curious how tall you are, I am looking at a bronson and I fall right on the overlap between a medium and a large. Also are you really running 35psi in those tires? I run a mix of 20psi in the front and 19psi in the rear with cushcore.
5’10
Great re view bud.
Thanks brother
@@SteadySpin 😉
What up steady!!!
Just sending it
🎶I just wanna fly...🎶 "Fly" - Sugar Ray 😂😂😂
Yep
I love my 5010 but there is definitely a limit. I'm just glad it rips on my local trails and if I want to hit the park, I'm a little more conservative on those tech trails.
Ever thought of putting a 36 on it?
@@SteadySpin I could put a 150 air spring in it and that is something I've thought about.
Kevin - You can save more money, I think, by checking your B-screw adjustment on the rear derailleur. I was having the same troubles as you (with SRAM Eagle X01), until I found the B-screw way out of whack.
It’s a two-person job, really. After you ensure that the limit screws are set properly (see Park Tools videos) and the gearing is reasonably indexed, have Seth sit on your bike to the sag set point. Get on the floor with the plastic B-screw gauge from SRAM and adjust accordingly. I found it helpful to color in the curve on the gauge with a black Sharpie... makes it easier to see.
Once I set the B-screw properly, it shifts like butter, and only costs a couple of bucks for the gauge. I don’t know why the gauge isn’t included with every new bike or groupo.
I have had 6 people look and adjust this exact thing. Couple tides in boom. This derailur is only 3 weeks old
Time for a new derailleur, then. Sorry.
I have the Aluminum version with the + build. Best purchase I have ever made.
I have been looking at the aluminum 5010
@@SteadySpin I almost got the 5010 because I was worried that the Bronson was too much bike but it handles my most pedally trails just as well as weekend trips to snowshoe.
It seems like a great all around trail bike for sure!
I just switched to the Microshift Advent 9 Speed, two rides in and I love it. I'll do a real review when I got a better feel for it, but damn for $115 at my LBS it's the tits.
I can dig it
If Channing Tatum had a RUclips channel! Haha. I loved the Bronson, the olde style, It just went through and over it all!
Channing for the win !!!
Steady Spin Haha. No offence man. You do look like him though! Haha.
Good job on the vids too. I’ve sub’d! 👍🏻
Nice review 👍
Thanks bro
I ride an All Mountain hardtail, so take my opinion on the issue with many salt grains, but I think I'll be moving to a mid-travel trail bike in a few years when I'm ready to start taking trips to ride out of state more regularly.
The full suspension is much softer on your body. Much more forgiving. Those hits are tough on my knees
@@SteadySpin I'm in Ohio, and it's really flat. I love it here, but I if there were more hills I'd probably already be moving toward a FS bike. I'm hoping to move to something like a Canyon Strive in a few years.
Nice review! How tall are you and what size did you go with? Thanks
5’10” size large
Well said! It also has a lot to do with the rider. I’ve seen good riders smash s***t on budget low travel bikes. Yes a certain type of geometry helps but it’s not necessary to enjoy any bike on any trail
True
How do you like those Specialized Enduro shorts? Mine seem pretty solid but I don't have much to compare em to.
They are great. The gray ones stain faster than the blue ones. I have one of each. Great shorts.
Kevin, I've never had cassette issues other than wearing them out. I buy the lightest I can afford. My current Guerilla Gravity has x01 12 speed. I know from experience the sram 11 speed stuff is silly light and shifts great. Why not go down to 11 speed?
I could. This is a stock set up. What about the prime 9 ?
@@SteadySpin Kevin, I think that depends. I remember your past as a roadie. As a roadie, cadence is important so having a lot of gears is important. Now with mountain biking I think the answer depends on where you will ride and your fitness. I know Box has an 11 speed and now a 9 speed. I think you could ask Seth and I also think Box could sponsor you too.
Seriously, it’s the best 27.5 bike on the market. I can’t think k of a better one.
Agreed
Upset you never made it to highland park this year 😢 be nice test for this bike; flow to tech to drops
Me too
One thing with sram 12 speed is it’s almost never perfect. It’s very hard to make it perfect and most people and some shops don’t know how. Also might try checking clutch tension
Good tip
I have a nomad and would say it’s even a all around bike. I wouldn’t mind having a bronson just to take the effort of harder pedaling sections down a notch.
Jus keep up the pressure in shock
Also have a Nomad (V3) and it makes a great all rounder if you like gnarly stuff
Great educational video! One day I'll have a better bike like that! You should come ride down in Chattanooga with me! Plenty of options
Heard they had some big drops
@@SteadySpin raccoon mountain and white oak mountain both do! We should plan something and tour around the trails here. You up for it?
Gotta live now -Cospe
Nice 👌🏼
Live in the moment
I ride a Bronson V2 and love it. I recently switched to a 11sp xx1 and properly tuned it... no issues whatsoever. Great video btw.
Next question... how do I get a shirt like that? I seen Seth, Alex, and yourself rocking it and NEED one. Message me back please.
This is my customs jersey.
@@SteadySpin Not available to the public?
Thanks for the reply. Love the jersey love your channel. If you ever release that jersey to your clothing line let me know.
Lucky you. I'd love to ride with Seth. He's such a badass. Awesome vid, dude. 👍😁👍
Thanks man.
Oh, and Ace Ventura on the background, that's fucking classic lmfao!
Just for you
Love my Bronson
Me too
How do you set-up your bronson suspension? Did you follow scb setting advise?
I currently run a 515-610 progressive coil. Stiff fork as well.
Have you ridden the Hightower ? Considering getting one.
Have not
Just a curious little Rhino
First comment. Nice.
The jim carrey photo with the rhino in his workshop ahahahahah
Pretty epic
I Iam a firm believer that rider rides a bike not the other way around. So u are a good strong rider and the bike rides what you want it to ride. Riders skill decide.
Agreed
I'm ready to sell mine, honestly.. It climbs great and is unbelievably planted and stable, but just too sluggish if you're not going mach chicken. Eventually, the harshness and lack of playfulness had me only using it for park and janky DH days. There's so much I love about the bike, but in the end, it didn't suit my riding style for 80% of the trails I ride
Very valid point. Before you sell it maybe try these few things. Tire pressure up and then run only 20% sag. It sounds crazy but it worked great for me once I ran higher pressure. Any jump style stuff I lock out the front a 1/3.
I’ve switched from a Bronson 19 to a nomad 19 and with my surprise the nomad climbs better then the Bronson hands down and I’m even running a dual crown fork from mrp that it’s 180mm.
Go figure 🤷🏻♂️
Ive heard about this before. Someone said if you want a bronson you should just get the nomad and run higher or lower shock pressure to suit your terrain.
It’s more geo difference but with the flip chip.
My only question is, are Alex and Bobo gonna get jealous that Kev and Seth are spending so much time together lately?? LOL Just bustin'......new collabs = good new content!!
Colab king
I bought this bad boy six months ago. I am noticing that at recommended settings it rides super stiff. Any tips?
Tires pressure is for traction. Suspension is for hits.
Megneg air can no volume reducers in positive or negative side and set sag at 25%
Steady Spin Right. I am coming from a specialized enduro that was super soft and I have grown to love that feeling. Just wasn’t sure if you were experiencing a stiff ride or if there was anything you might recommend to help smooth things out a bit.
First downhill looks like Hooker which makes since w/ Ridgeline is the second...love those
good eye brother
Hooker is SUCH a fun trail!
We need some BOBO up in here!!! Fuck yea!
Next week
The Bronson is a super versatile bike. For shifting, shimano xt is super reliable and crisp and far from the priciest drive train. At least compared to eagle xo1/xx1.
Agreed
@@SteadySpin I have the 11 speed XT cassette and the gap between 10 and 11 rings is substantial. I came from a Sunrace that was stock on the bike and all 11 rings were evenly spaced. Its almost like the 11 speed XT is/was trying to compete with the newer 12 speed drive trains. Either way, fak it, just ride it!
what are the shifting issues? a properly tuned bike shouldn't have issues.
I wish
Check your B-screw adjustment.
Shifting issuees cann be:
bent cogs
bent chain
freehub wobble
bent hanger
benk cage
jockey wheels/pulley wheels having bearings that bind up
stiff chain link
too much mud and other gunk
On my bike:
on my bike it's common for me to get issues with the drivetrain, cus the 2014 Fuel EX is too flexy, causing hanger to bend, which eventually will develop a crack, and fail, or fail when truing,
bend the cogs, but bent cogs can be fixed with a flat head screw driver, I flex the bike into the tyre so much I get a line all around the sidewall, quite distinctive.
But I doubt The Bronson is very flexy, it has beefy swing arm, all the links are beefy.
but my bike is a mix of very flexy and very stiff, but not done properly so it's inefficient pedalling, I could go on and on, but for those that want that go look at my review.
But I think I have decided on which frame to get, only fork remaining. not ordered it, but Nicilai/Geometron G1 I think.
Current bike can't handle me riding it no matter how easy, I will keep bending hanger, and Trek Norway won't help me, at least those ppl that dealt with my case.
I may have all the above
I may have all the above
I may have all the above
nice
Thanks
Just curious as to what the material of your Bronson is? A, C, CC
C. I’m cheap
Your cheap, I’m trying to save up for an A😂😂
I’ve rode here before!!! 😆
Sweet
Don’t know what this vid was all about The Jim Carey poster trow me off ...🧐
Lol. 3rd comment at 3k views. Lol. Good movie right ?
As a Nomad 4 and 5010 owner myself, I can appreciate the Bronson for people who want a single bike to do it all. What I can comprehend is someone even mentioning that the Bronson would be tough during climbs. My Nomad climbs great. Does the 5010 climb a little better, yeah, but I've ridden big travel enduro bikes on uphill climbs that kinda suck. Its all about the setup. I.E. If I'm trail riding my Nomad 4 I adjust the VPP link, set my tire pressures different, rebound changes, compression, etc...
Totally agree
What bike did you have before?
18 stumpjumper
So right
Have u tried the nomad??
Not the new geo but the old. I didn’t like it. But I’m sure the new one is better.
I love the new it feels amazing would recommend trying
Maybe I can get a Park day in on one soon.
So carbon or aluminum?
Carbon
Ace Ventura!
Second person to catch that
Shimano shifts wayyyyy better under load, whether you're sprinting downhill or just climbing
I snap a lot of chains
I like a bigger bike and like having extra squish. I also am kidding nobody, I don't like to pedal. I don't "only ride park", but yeah, I wish I did.
Preach brother.
35psi???
When the trail is flow and smooth it’s really fast.
Are these wheels really 29 inches
The front wheel is 29 on all the new models
You need to sneak a copy of the rhino crapping out Jim Carey and put it up in Bobos toilet next time you take a dump! change the face to Bobo though! class right there! haha
Good idea
Why does this guy looks like the lead singer from Sugar Ray?
Not the first time.
Get you a Sunrace cassette, best bang for buck!
100$ on amazon
I run SunRace 11-46T I have been for at least 2 years, bit flexier cogs than Shimano xt, but seems to be more resistant to bending, but still does, maybe it's not, but seems to be, also the sunrace does drop the chain with perfect chain line if I use 34T oval, and backpedal, but the SHimano XT M8000 does not, but I went down to 32T which is the right size for me, it does not drop, so problem solved, the 32T enough high gear for me, but I will go up to 11-50T, I already got two cassettes, one I got second hand for a great price it's black so I got silver and black, I got Box One X-wide on the way, But SunRAce rear derailleur looks interesting to me.
I like the more even spread of SunRace over the Shimano XT m8000
My review of it: wp.me/p60aTF-2vK
nice job
@@SteadySpin thx.