My father (born in 1926) was not breathing at birth. Along with the physician, my great-grandmother was in attendance for the home birth. She took my father and quickly baptized him under the tub faucet. Mucus or whatever was blocking his airway came out. So, being born to a Catholic family helped to save his life!
Baptism is immersion not sprinkling nor pouring.... Baptism did not save his life... The doc rinsed the child and the procedure saved his life... Catholicism has nothing to do with it. If he died a Catholic and believed what they believe he, sadly, is not in heaven.
You are so knowledgeable, it’s almost like you’ve spent a lifetime in each church! As a Baptist to Catholic convert, everything you said about those was spot on. I appreciate when people deal with what Catholicism truly is without some of the unfortunately common misconceptions.
@@verntoews6937 Where does the Bible say that? Or which of the Church Fathers wrote that? By way of analogy, the rite of circumcision marked one's entry into the people of God, yet there was no expectation that one must "be at least old enough to make a conscious commitment to serve." St. Paul saw in the parting of the Red Sea a type (a prefigurement) of Baptism, yet clearly the Israelites brought their little ones with them. The babies weren't simply left in Egypt until they could decide for themselves to journey to the Promised Land. As a former Baptist, I gleefully say that you are nullifying the word of God with the traditions of men. Bye
@@carissstewart3211 Where in the Bible does it expressly state that a baby must be Baptized? The Scriptural Evidence for what Vern had said is clearly see with Philip and the Eunuch, and after Peter's preaching on the Day of Pentecost. Both instances are shown to the reader very clearly. The Eunuch asks "What Doth hinder me to be baptized?" to which Philip says "If thou believest, thou mayest." When the men who had heard the Preaching from Peter, they asked "What shall we do?" To which Peter states "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins." It's clearly laid out that the belief in Christ MUST come before the Baptism, which means that the person must be of an age to actually UNDERSTAND what that means. To answer your question on Circumcision, it was on the eighth day that a child was to be circumcised. And I don't understand where you get the idea that Paul had seen some sort of foretelling of Baptism in the parting of the Red Sea, I'd like the Scripture reference for that. Thanks.
@@Peaches-No-Cream "Where in the Bible does it expressly state that a baby must be baptised?" One - that is an argument from silence. And if there is no passage that explicitly says "infants must be baptised," there is likewise no passage saying "the children of Christians must be baptised only after making a profession of faith." Two - the passages you cited link faith with baptism - however that does not mean that children were to be excluded. For as St. Peter said, "Repent, and be baptised every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you *and to your children* and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him." (Acts 2:38-39) Those passages speak to the necessity of baptism, not it's exclusivity to adults. Certainly we read multiple times about entire households being baptised. The families of Lydia, the philippian jailer, and Stephanas were all baptised. There is no logical reason to assume infants were excluded unless one already has that preconceived idea. You missed my point about circumcision. I wasn't asking when circumcision was performed, as some non sequitur. I was pointing out that it was performed on infants! Adult men converting to Judaism would need to be baptized as adults. Abraham himself was circumcised as an old man after expressing faith in God. Jewish boys, however, are circumcised as infants in anticipation of faith. This is analogous to baptism, which St. Paul makes clear in Colossians 2:11 when he referred to baptism as "a circumcision made without hands" and "the circumcision of Christ." Finally, that passage you asked about - it's 1 Corinthians 10:1-2: " I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and *all were baptised into Moses in the cloud and in the sea...* One can see very clearly, when the Bible is read as a whole, with the New Testament read in light of the Old Testament, that infants are to be baptized as well as converts to the faith. After all, our Lord did say, "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 19:13-14) God bless
This is a really fantastic analysis. Not only are there differences between denominations, but within the confession of a particular denomination there are aspects that are viewed as crucial to doctrine and other aspects that are handled a particular way, but they’re not viewed as being on the same level. You presented both magnificently.
I was baptized in a Catholic Church that was majority Black, and was fully immersed. This definitely isn’t the norm, but all of these variations are fascinating!
The biggest reason for allowing pouring is that of practicality of spreading the gospel. If you are in the middle of the desert and someone wants to be baptised, it is not practical to require one to be immersed in water. This would allow someone to carry water around and baptise many people in "inhospitable" lands. If it's ok there, then it has to be ok everywhere.
@@deusimperator In 1984, I was a member of a new Catholic mostly white congregation. The church building we constructed included a Baptismal pool on the altar platform which allowed the candidate to be immersed or receive pouring.
As a Catholic, you gave a pretty fair and well rounded explanation of Baptism. The one fault I did see was the topic of "limbo". In the past, some Catholic theologians have discussed the idea of limbo, but has never been taught by the Church as a doctrine and truth. You cited the Catechism almost directly after bringing up limbo, but failed to note that limbo is nowhere mentioned there. Anyhow, it was a wonderful video.
Seems like there's conflation here between the Eastern Catholics and Orthodox. It's unfortunate that the author of the video didn't do his homework. But honestly, I'm not surprised. Most non-Catholic Christians remain pretty misinformed about Catholicism.
Nine months later I came across this again and feel required to disagree. Limbo was official dogma until the infallible, unchangeable Roman Catholic Church changed it. The source I have for this included references to prove this but my memory for details is poor.
@@markhorton3994 limbo, in Roman Catholic theology, the border place between heaven and hell where dwell those souls who, though not condemned to punishment, are deprived of the joy of eternal existence with God in heaven. The word is of Teutonic origin, meaning “border” or “anything joined on.” The concept of limbo probably developed in Europe in the Middle Ages but was never defined as a church dogma, and reference to it was omitted from the official catechism of the church that was issued in 1992.
@@karentippets4285 bro if you talk to a thousand different Christians about their beliefs you'll get a thousand different answers. It's not exactly a peer-reviewed science.
I’m impressed. I’ve taught this subject for 40 years and you’ve presented it accurately, fairly, and concisely. It’s clear you did your homework. (I’m from the Restorationist.)
I greatly admire the level of research you put into these videos. As a former Salvation Army soldier now Anglican (ACNA), I'm glad you brought up the oddness of the Salvation Army's choice to stop baptisms and reject them in the corps as a whole.
@@brucealanwilson4121 The early Salvationists supposedly felt it was right, together with the Holy Spirit, for the Salvation Army to be a beacon within the church universal to show that one could live a holy life with out external ceremonies.
@@TorahisLifeandLight DID PAUL TEACH BAPTISM TO THE GENTILES? Romans 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. 1 Corinthians 1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 1 Corinthians 12:13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body - whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free - and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Galatians 3:26-27 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism Philippians (see Acts 16:33) At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized . Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working
I've been in the Nazarene Church my whole life, and I've never known them to baptize infants. We do 'dedications,' but as far as I've witnessed, no infant baptisms. However, the Nazarene Church is very diverse, some leaning more to the Catholic side. Also, at the dedication, I've seen there be a 'congregational vow' of sorts, where the church promises to help raise the child in the way it should go.
Very interesting and very thorough, thank you! It's especially illustrative of the fact that Christians of all faiths see things differently (I'm Catholic), even though we are trying to see the same thing. It is remarkable how many of us see the others as wrong. That's a human frailty.
@@FalconOfStorms Yeah, a good example of this is about 3/4ths of my church hold to the "New Hampshire Baptist Confession of 1853" while the other forth hold to "the Second London Baptist Confession of 1689" But in the end of the day we're all family and get along.
Wonderful video, thank you! As a member of the LCMS, I would like to add that in an emergency, we do allow any person (non Christian or Lutheran) to perform a baptism. We have a quick guide for it at the end of the small catachism. The baptism should then be reported to the local church pastor as soon as possible for recording.
Catholic babies may be baptized by anyone else in an emergency (i.e. no priest or deacon available) as long as the proper language and matter (water) are used
@@richardbaranzini8805As long as they follow the correct method, we’re all God’s children, right? That specific non-Christian might not be saved, but he could help save another!
Dear Joshua, This talk on the origins of different church bodies was excellent. Thank you for all the thought you put onto it, and, in turn, distilling it so clearly. Excellent work, for which I thank you again. Sincerely, Larry Clarence Lewis Ontario, Canada.
I grew up Baptist and learned that it's important to study and follow the bible... The most important thing I learned is that the traditions of man and the biblical instructions of God are two different things. But many conflate the two.
Spoken like a veritable dunce... you have not read what those "Traditions" really are. St. Paul tells you to follow the traditions he taught you... So what are these tradition Christ speaks of??? If you are not Jewish you are not going to know. This is legislation enacted a gezerah in the Beit Din Gadol. VERY SPECIFICALLY IT IS #7 enacted by Shammai ... It was abrogated by Gmaliel. One does not receive the faith through a book but through a tradition which is received.
??? So Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. What if you’re not around people of faith, so you don’t “hear” the word of God? Many people find God in jail, through a book. If you seek Him, you’ll find Him (Matthew 7:7-12)… Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding… Not the understanding from traditions/rituals, which failed man to begin with (That’s why Jesus had to die for us to begin with. If all those laws, rituals, and traditions could have saved us GOD wouldn’t have done what He did to bridge the gap), but seek revelation from GOD… 1 John 2:27-28 Jesus fulfilled all those things when he said what he said in the cross (John 19:30). We live under Grace now (Romans 6:14). 2 Corinthians 3:6
The phrase "emergency baptism" puts a big smile on my face. I can easily imagine a new believer just learning about baptism and needing to be baptized now! I love the energy of new believers 🥰
^Yup. Some think baptism is a requirement for salvation, so it's an emergency for a dying person to get one if they haven't. Excitement and enthusiasm don't qualify as emergencies. Paul's writings make it clear people are saved by grace through faith (Romans 4, Ephesians 2, etc.) and Peter clarifies that water baptism isn't what saves, but rather an answer of good conscience toward God.
This is probably as exhaustive analysis as one can hope to get on the matter. Well done. As a Reformed person from South Africa, I can vouch that you got the Reformed position 100% right.
@@jimd9339 Nope. The Bible is literally drenched it the doctrine of divine election, the only reason why you cant see it is because you have a man centered theology. There are pages and pages of passages I can take you to, but here is one as clear as daylight, and off the beaten track Phillipians 2:13.
@@Hannodb1961 You are confused by Calvinism....or should I say Augustinianism? For Calvin followed Augustine...a lost Catholic! Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Who was Paul writing to? Saved folk. Not lost sinners. Mankind has a freewill. Your complete religion is founded upon mankind NOT having a freewill. Calvinism is easily debunked by debunking that silly heresy. I freely choose to reject Calvinism. My Saviour Jesus Christ the Lord predestined me to be against Calvinism. All 5 points of Calvinism are heretical. Easily debunked. You have to do major mental gymnastics in order to force Calvinism into the Bible.
@@jimd9339 Oh, the irony, because if you believe in free will, you're actually on the catholic side. The very first debate between Catholicism and Protestantism was on this very issue, and you are standing on Rome's side. I stand on the side of Luther, you stand on the side of Erasmus. Where did Calvyn get his ideas? From Paul, and Paul got it from Jesus. Read John 6, Jesus clearly state that the jews did not merely choose to reject Him, they were unable to come to Him, because they do not belong to Him. Or Acts 13 that says that all who were predestent to eternal life, believed. Or John 1:13, who emphisize 3 times that salvation is not of our will, but we are born from God. And btw, birth is something you had no choice in. Or Ephesians 2:1-10 that clearly state that we were dead in sin, and faith is a gift from God. I can go on and on and on, because the bible is not on your side. Could the Pharoah choose to let Israel go? Did Paul have a choice in his apostleship? Yes, we have will, but that will is bound, not free. In Romans 6 Paul state you are either a slave of sin or a slave of rightiousness. Just like when you give a lion a choice between salad and meat, he chooses meat, because that is his nature. So too, the sinner chooses rebellion against God, and he cannot do any other, because it is his nature. You say you freely chose. Can you freely choose to change your desires? No, you cannot, because your choices are governmened by your desires, not the other way arround. You cannot choose for God unless God places the desire in your heart. The idea of free will is incoherent. If your faith is based on free will, well then there is merit in the act of faith because it is something you do, and it is no longer the product of grace. But James says faith that does not produce good deads is dead, so where does those good deeds come from? If faith is the product of your choice, then so is your deeds. But then there is merit in those deeds as well. What is the minimim amount of good deeds necesary before your faith become invalid? And so, it doesn't take long for you to end up in a Roman Catholic position that sees your salvation as a combination of the merit and grace of Christ, as well as your own merit. You can only truly and coherently believe in grace alone, when both your faith and your works is a gift from God working in you through the Holy Spirit. That is what Jeremiah said when he Said God creates in us a new heart. That is what Jesus taught when He said no one can come to him unless its given to them by the Father, and they shall have eternal life, and that is what Paul taught in Romans 9. Free will is the lie that Satan peddled to Adam and Eve: the idea that we can be sovereign like God. That is why predestination is offensive, even to so many christians, because it strikes at the very root of sin: the notion of human sovereignty.
@@Hannodb1961 LOL You are hilarious.... No. Calvin got his heresies from Augustine who got his heresies form the Catholic cult... Calvinism is a cult just like Catholicism. Jesus did not teach that mankind does not have a freewill. The devil made the choice to sin... Adam made the choice to sin. God did not make either of them sin. Here is an example of your reasoning: 2 + 2 is 5 or 2 + 2 are 5? You think that it is an either or thing when BOTH of your answers are wrong. It's not a choice between Catholicism and Calvinism!
A ton of research went into this video. I can say the description of what the southern baptist churches do is spot on. Beyond that the only thing I know is there is a profound change that takes place once you're baptized.
There is a church with over 16 million members, over 8 million members in the USA and you didn’t put them in a category? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Members of that organization and of the Watchtower Society cannot rightly be called fully Christian, as they do not believe in a single, triune God. The LDS believe in a host of gods and that Jesus is a separate being, despite Him saying "I and the Father are one"; the JWs don't believe that Jesus is God at all, despite Him saying "Before Abraham was, I AM." A good measure on if a denomination is Christian is to see which baptisms the Apostolic Churches consider valid; as long as it's in the Name (singular, yet in a triune understanding) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and performed with water, converts to most Ancient Churches don't have to be rebaptized.
@@11cmower "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1). The rest of John 1 explicitly describes this Word as Jesus. This is why all Christian groups that can trace themselves directly back to the 1st century are Trinitarian -- it is the tradition handed down by the Apostles.
@@PianoForte9096 who is Jesus talking to in Mark 15:34? Is he speaking to Himself? Also Luke 23:46? We in the Church of Jesus Christ believe He is speaking to his literal Father in Heaven.
@@11cmower Catholics believe and have believed for nearly two milennia that Jesus is speaking to God the Father, the first person of the Trinity. In doing so, He quotes the first line of Psalm 22, a Messianic prophecy. Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, and the Holy Spirit is the third. These are three distinct persons whose will and substance is unitive in one being. How else can we reconcile that we are supposed to baptize in the name (singular, you can look at the Greek in Matthew 28) of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit? How else can we reconcile Jesus clearly proclaiming Himself as God, the Holy Spirit possessing divine attributes, and the truth that there is only one God? The Apostle's Creed reveals how the earliest Christians interpreted Christ's conception: "conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary..." and not conceived by the Father. Did you understand my "historical pedigree" argument, or would you like me to repeat it? We have an unbroken chain of authority from the Apostles to today -- so at what exact date could there have been a "Great Apostasy"? Before you answer, try reading the Didache, a Christian document very likely written before John's Revelation. It contains many of the most basic oral traditions.
From the Kirsopp Lake translation of "The Didache": "1 Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," in running water; 2 but if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm. 3 But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit." 4 And before the baptism let the baptiser and him who is to be baptised fast, and any others who are able. And thou shalt bid him who is to be baptised to fast one or two days before."
I grew up in a denomination that practices believer's baptism by full immersion only. As such, we did not have baptism of babies, but we instead had dedication ceremonies where we pledged to help the child grow in his or her faith (and I understand that most denominations that ascribe to believer's baptism do this.) We had two godparents of each sex (four total) during my youngest cousin's dedication. However, my uncle is a LCMS minister, and I was baptized by him as a baby, though this was intended mostly in the same way as a dedication. When I got older, I was encouraged by other family members to be baptized by immersion if I chose to profess faith, so I was baptized again by full immersion when I was 13. As for my cousin, he was later baptized on his sixth birthday into the LCMS, though I can't recall the method that was used.
The act of baptism is a continuation of the Jewish practice of mikvah a ritual washing which was for purification before God. It was a full immersion as a washing.
For Roman rite Catholics , the key to the mode of Baptism is "flowing" water, which incorporates sprinkling, pouring, or immersion (partial or full). The Catholic Church also recognizes two other forms of Baptism: of Desire (persons who seek full unity with the Catholic Church but who were never afforded an opportunity to receive water baptism) and of Blood (martyrdom).
Was expecting advice on agricultural engineering, stayed for a nuanced explanation of the confusing menagerie of Abrahamic religions. I have seen this kind of energy in science fiction or sport fans, I’d never seen a Christianity nerd before. Bravo
I am an ordained Salvation Army Officer. Lack of baptism has never been an issue except where I was asked to be the Godparent of a niece in a CoE Church. However, the priest accepted that baptism through the Spirit entitled me to be seen as baptised, and I was okay to become a Godparent.
@@ndenyer With all due respect, your glasses must need cleaning. Jesus Christ HIMSELF said you need to be baptized or you do not have supernatural life within you. This is to say nothing of the great commission where He instructed the apostles to go forth instructing the heathen and baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You need to get baptized, and pronto.
@@PipeDreamerJacques see (for example) Matt 3:11, Acts1:5. Baptism by the Holy Spirit is as applicable as water baptism according to John the Baptist and Jesus himself. The thief on the cross was not baptised, but was promised he would be with Jesus in paradise. But please note I don’t decry water baptism in any way at all. It’s just not the way in my Church and I currently don’t believe I am missing out because of that.
@Party Peetz the Bible is very clear people can be saved without being baptised. And even your example seems to me to indicate the ability and desire to do so at that time. Just to be very clear, I don’t negate the blessing people may feel from baptism, I am simply convinced it not a necessity to salvation or holiness, but an adjunct.
2 John 9 sir. But truthfully all in denominations and their mother the Roman Catholic Church are lost. There are no denominations in the kingdom of God. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost 2 John 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
@@aaronjordan7250 How are all denominations lost if they all believe and follow the verses you listed? You can be either saved or unsaved in any denomination.
I would like to make a slight correction. Pouring is the norm in the Latin-rite Catholic Church, by the Eastern Catholic Churches all practice primarily immersion
@@soundpreacher Baptizo does not necessarily mean “immerse”. And the Eastern Catholic Churches aren’t just Greek, they’re also Syriac, Egyptian, Semitic, Slavic, Asian, etc.
@@soundpreacher Have you read the Didache prepared by the first Catholics who were ALL Jews??? They provided several methods of performing a baptism. The Christian faith does not originated among Greeks but among the Jewish Catholics. The Jewish Catholics wrote in the rules for carrying out the Jewish mikveh into the Didache. Baptism was how one became Jewish, and the mikveh it is the point of conversion into Judaism.
@Григорий Фэша Thanks for your thoughtful, lengthy copy and paste. But I'm not sure what it has to do with my comment. I'm simply saying the word "baptize" essentially means to immerse. Take it for what it's worth.
@@dougdrummonds7406 mark 7:4 is a tradition made from the Jews that after they came home from the market place they must clean themselves and the things they used to eat with, because the fear they touched something “unclean” it would also make them unclean and sick. It’s nothing ceremonial. Also where in mark 7:4 talk ab baptizing couches?
@@dougdrummonds7406 An unfortunate textual variant. However, you are focusing on the wrong word in this case. Baptizo still means "to immerse" - even in Mark 7:4. The issue here is whether or not "dining couches" was in the original text. Some have it. Some don't. Baptizo = immerse. Why are you determined to prove otherwise?
A gentle reminder that baptism was originally rooted in the Jewish Mikvah, which is a ritual bath. It goes all the way back to the deliverance from Egypt and the crossing of the Red Sea. The number of denominations is overwhelming. It’s best to understand the roots of baptism as understood by the original Jewish apostles.
You always miss the oriental churches. The old churches are Catholics, Orthodoxes and Orientals (Coptic, Arminians, Ethiopians, Eritreans and East Assyrians) they are Oriental Orthodox. Not part of the Catholics nor orthodoxy
Theres a lot of Apostolic Churches. Orthodox Church, Roman Catholics, Eastern Catholic, non Calcedon Church, non Efesian Church, etc. But I think our Bible interpretation is much more similar than the 19th-20th century denomination.
@Danijel Mornarić No, the Oriental churches are not in union with the bishop of Rome. There are some Eastern Catholics who use the rites of the Oriental churches. Not exactly the same though because of Latin influence.
He didn't do the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint's (otherwise known as Mormon, but we prefer not to be called that because it takes away from our focus on Christ) either. I guess it makes sense, we don't really fit into any of the categories mentioned (maybe restorationists) but we've still got a pretty interesting take on baptism that I wish he would have gone into.
Thank you for the research you did on this. I also appreciate the way you present this in a matter of fact way. I just found your RUclips channel yesterday.
I am glad you quoted this verse. This verse uses the word him and not them. God is one and not three. God is a him and not a they or them. To be baptized with him according to this verse, one must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38. If not one is not part of the bride of Christ. Most so called cults teach that the God of the Jews is three. This is a lie the Jewish God is numerically one Dt6:4. He is one and his name is one ''Jesus Christ.''
The name "Roman Catholic" is incorrect. There is ONE Catholic Church, consisting of twenty-three Rites, one of which is the Latin Rite. This is frequently, and mistakenly, referred to as "Roman" by those who don't know better. Should be Latin Rite Catholic Church.
Your channel is great! I apreciate the great effort you have put in to remain unbiased and factual in your presentation. Your channel is a great resource for furthering one's understanding of Christendom at large. I genuinely don't know what denomination you are after watching about a dozen of your videos, which really speaks to your character as a presenter and intellectual. if i was forced to guess i would say you are definitely protestent, and probably some sort of methodist, anglican, or lutheran, with my guesses being in order of confidence.
In the Orthodox church, a bishop can baptize too (of course). In case of emergency, any orthodox Christian can perform the baptism, in any kind of liquid (no joke), as long as they are baptized themselves in the Orthodox Church, and they baptize in the Name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
@@fluffysheap The question regarding baptism with beer came before the CDF long time ago, and the answer was no. But that was beccase some one may have been baptized with beer and a bishop was inquiring if it was valid. The answer was no.
In the Catholic Church, it is required to recite this exact statement: "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." (It can not be "we baptize" nor any other form of the Trinity or feminization of the Godhead.). Mormon baptisms are not recognized in the Catholic Church. As a side note, the Catholic Church is not a denomination. United with the Church are the the Eastern Catholic Churches ("also referred to as Oriental Catholic Churches, Eastern-rite Catholic Churches, Eastern Rite Catholicism, or simply the Eastern Churches"). The Orthodox separated from the Catholic Church in 1054 AD. Denominationalism began in the 1500's (Lutheran, Anglican).
Jesus and apostles want Christian Unity Ephesians 4:3-5 (KJV) Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, John 17:20-21 (KJV) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 2 Peter 1:20 (KJV) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
@@akiram6609 More correct to say Catholic Church in which are included three Rites for Sacred Liturgical practice: Latin, Eastern and the new Anglican Rite.
Great video! I was raised in the Church of God in Christ (Black Pentecostal). We had "christenings" of infants. They included anointing with oil (not baptism), presentation of godparents and a congregational vow.
I found this fascinating thank you for putting this video together. I grew up in a Baptist Church in southern IL. I was baptized back in 1999 in the Ohio river (the church's baptismal was broken at the time)
Great video...Well researched! I was baptized as an infant in the Roman Catholic Church (1st one in the New World according to my Baptismal Certificate). I am no longer part of Roman Catholic Church in the sense that I haven't attended since my 20's, and instead attend Protestant services. I consider myself a Non-Denominational Protestant follower of Christ. To that end, over the years, I have attended Baptist, Presby, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican Church of North America, even some non denominational churches. Unfortunately I've been told, heard and read over the years that my Infant Baptism "doesn't count" and that i should have a "re-do" otherwise my salvation is in peril. I have trouble believing this since I have not read it anywhere in the Gospels (new or Old Testament for that matter) that infant baptism doesn't count. Especially learning that, culturally, back in those days (2,000 years ago) the head of the household brought his entire family to be Baptized (including small children and infants). Then I read, mostly online, that unless a person is completely submerged in water that it too "doesn't count".🙄 🙄....again, i turn to the Bible and nope can't find where it says that u have to be dunked completely or it "doesn't count." Then I think to myself "what about the thief on the Cross who was saved by Jesus?" was he baptized in water and completely submerged? No. or "What about all the people stuck in a hospital bed or a nursing home who have repented and turned to Christ, then request to be Baptized but cannot be submerged in water?" ...so i guess its...too bad so sad for everyone that didn't "do it right" according to those that believe in only adult submersion baptism.🙄 The way I feel is that, if i redo it it would be a re-baptism to me because I do recognize my infant baptism as legitimate. And so I would be making a mockery out of the Sacrament of Baptism by getting re-baptized under the concept that my first Baptism "didn't take". This is an insult and a mockery. I regard Baptism as Sacred experience. Hopping around getting re-baptized (which people have done repeatedly especially if they switch churches and it becomes a requirement for membership) doesn't make sense to me and just appears to cheapen the Sacrament.
There is only one God, one Word and one Church (Singular) in my Bible. Church is not a denomination or building, but a gathering of beleivers We are not allowed to add anything to the Bible. To say there were small children in the house that was babtised is adding to the Word of God. Not all houses have small babies Jesus was Circumsused as a Jew and then babtized as a grown man in water. He did not repent of his sin( because He was sinless( All other beleivers have to repent of their own sins and only than be baptized in water. A baby cannot repent. (Jesus died on a cross for that baby's sin.) Neither can you wash off your sins. Babtizing is something you do After you repented and turn away from your sinful life. Only after the act of being babtized in water will the Holy Spirit come and live inside your heart and guide you to strive to do the right things. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect. I Corinthians 1:16 -17NKJV bible.com/bible/114/1co.1.16.NKJV And John bore witness, saying, “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. John 1:32 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/jhn.1.32.NKJV Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/act.2.38.NKJV
The thief on the cross has nothing to do with Baptism. That's a straw man Protestants try to use against the Catholic Church. If Jesus wants to snap his fingers and "Save" the thief, that's his decision. He's God. How arrogant to think you can hold Jesus to that. There's also Baptism of desire. God is a loving and merciful God. If someone is on the way to Church to get baptized and gets killed by a drunk driver, does God condemn him to hell? I don't think so. We are talking about the Normative way people enter the journey of salvation. You yourself are pretty much talking like a Catholic above. Come home. Go to Confession (another great Sacrament instituted by Christ), and come back where you belong and receive the Eucharist : the Main Sacrament of all. I'll be praying for you.
@@samuelswanepoel7926 You should try reading your Bible now and then. the Bible ALONE is a false teaching nobody believed or taught prior to Luther. It's also unbiblical. As for the Church - Jesus created One Church in Matt 16:18, the pillar and foundation of truth, in 1 Tim 3:15, and most importantly, the Final Authority, in Matt 18:15-18. Learn it, love it, live it.
@@PokerMonkey You say the Bible is unbiblical? Interesting choice of words. ... Read 2 Tim 3:16 " The WHOLE Bible is inspired by God.. "The rock the church is built on is not a literal building but means God who does not charge. Take 1 Peter 2:7 as an example of non literal scripture where humans are depicted as stones Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. I Peter 2:7-8 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/1pe.2.7-8.NKJV The church the Bible refers to is not a building but a group of beleivers. I do not belong to any 'denomination" I belong to God through Jesus Christ lead through the Holy Spirit 🙏 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.” Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Galatians 3:10-14 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/gal.3.10-14.NKJV
I was raised within the Nazarene denomination. I recall infant and child dedication services, but these were not thought of as being baptisms, more a declaration of the parents and the congregation to raise and teach the child the Christian faith.
Yes, I grew up in a Nazarene church from ages 11 to 15, and they did infant dedications, not infant baptism. However, I got out of that denomination and was Scripturally baptized and joined an ABA Landmark Missionary Baptist church at 17, the same denomination my grandfather was raised in. I also remember a single rose was always presented to each of the baby’s parents during dedication. Do you remember that, as well?
I am Orthodox, and our main mode *should* be by three full immersions, though of course I cannot speak for every parish out there that might do a slight variation. Great content btw
@@goodbanter4427 FROM WHAT IS AVAILABILITY... IT depends on AVAILABILITY... The Western Church has performed baptism by pouring an option which was permitted, just as in Judaism were SPRINKLING is also permitted.
The colors line up perfectly with each denomination, and a rightly impression is left along with the information Excellent Presentation Ready to Harvest
awesome video! thanks so much. as a member of the Church of Christ / Christian Churches I can say that you’ve fairly described the general practice, but few of the specifics (officiant, clothing, formula) are standardized or thought to be critical to the validity. for example, the officiant is most common the local minister out of convenience but family or friends often perform the immersion as the spiritual effect is between the candidate and God. clothing is very much based on local preference and convenience. the formula is not standardized, but almost universally includes “in the name of the father son and holy spirit” “for the forgiveness of sin” and “to receive the gift of the holy spirit”.
agreed- in the CofC it was my baptized father who baptized me after I'd confessed my faith that Jesus Christ who IS the Son of GOD and upon my public confession my dad then baptized me in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost to receive the forgiveness of my sins. It was a long time ago, but thinking back, I'm pretty sure that there was no mention of receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit although the church doctrine considered it a foregone conclusion.
My father’s side is American Lutherans and they don’t have god parents (in fact my dad finds it weird that as all of us have god parents on my moms side)...I was raised Catholic.
What might have been an interesting inclusion (assuming of course, that they don't share baptismal beliefs with Eastern Orthodox), is the Nestorian Church (Assyrian Orthdox, The Church of The East, etc...), and the Coptic Church and it's offshoots.
I tried to scan through all of the comments, but I don’t see any comment from an Orthodox Christian. We follow the “Οίκος” (household) model.In the case of emergency baptisms, there is a form, and must be in the name of the Trinity. The same is the case for recognizing other baptisms to receive chrismation, the baptism must have been in the name of the Trinity.
Excellent, incredible evaluation, analysis, and comparison, helping easily compare and contrast and understand denomination differences and I truly hope you’ll continue to create similar videos discussing and comparing different positions/issues. Very much looking forward to tour future content!
Churches of Christ do not call their ministers a "pastor." Usually it is the minister or preacher, but elders can administer and I've even seen some fathers baptize their children.
My experience is that any male member can baptize. Commonly the preacher or evangelist that baptizes the person because he's the one that received the person when he/she came forward. I know of no scriptural limitations on the baptizer. Yes, in the churches of Christ, the elders are the pastors. Long ago I heard of elders being called bishops after 1 Timothy 3:1. One local church calls their elders shepherds.
I’m going to create a new denomination who uses super soakers to baptize anyone we see walking down the road while we drive around in a white minivan. We will take gallons of water to as many different denominations as possible for it to be blessed by their respective leaders. Who’s in?
Just a note about this: While his explanations are good, he glossed what makes the baptisms effectual. It’s one thing to say “these 5 denominations see baptism as effectual for salvation” it’s quite another to explain the “why” or “how” behind that statement. It’s clearly the work of the Holy Spirit interacting with the faith of the candidate. Therefore, while grabbing a super soaker is funny, it’s of no good. Otherwise I’d be on the street corner with one myself bringing more people to Jesus than Billy Graham could even imagine 😂
For those out there that believe that baptism is necessary for salvation I present the story of the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He did not tell him that he would have to be baptized before being with him in paradise. Baptism is a declaration of faith. Being Pentecostal I was dedicated at my birth by my parents. Which bound my parents to raising me in the faith and teaching me what it means to be Christian. Also claims the Lord's providence over my young life. When I was considered old enough to understand my choice, I always called it age of accountability, I was expected to join in the baptism when next it came around. This was a result of my choice to accept the gift of grace. But a person that accepts the gift of grace a moment before they die is just as valid in their salvation as I am after living the faith all my life. I am not a huge stickler on the minute details of the different baptisms. The purpose of baptism is a symbolic washing away of sins and entering the church as a new creature and a declaration of your faith. The baptism in and of itself does not mean you are saved or not saved. We do it because we love the lord and he told us to do it.
That point was addressed in the video. The thief on the cross could not have been baptized but his expression of faith and act of charity was what saved him, it was a baptism of desire. Note that the video also points out the Catholic position that God is not limited by the sacraments but they are the normal means for us to be united with him.
Interesting to see this video along with the squabble between every denomination in the comments. While it may sound like something an edgy atheist would say as a counterargument, obedience is what matters. If you faithfully believe in one type of baptism and are obedient to it under an honest belief you are honoring the father, you will experience the blessings, though while not as much as one who has followed the true doctrine and followed it out. What the true doctrine is is what you must find out for yourself, with holy scriptures and faithful prayer as your guiding tool.
You did an excellent job condensing a very complicated issue into a very short and concise presentation! Two additions - the Catholic officiant must use the singular 'I' when baptizing. There have been cases where the officiant has stated 'we' baptize and the baptism was invalid. The Catholic Church will also offer ‘conditional’ baptisms for adults who are coming into the church and are unsure of they have been baptized or if their original baptism was valid. Keep up the good work.
That statement from the PCA denying any salvific efficacy in baptism is so depressing. Our confessional standards explicitly state, ““by the right use of this ordinance, the grace promised is not only offered, but really exhibited, AND CONFERRED, by the Holy Ghost, to such (whether of age or infants) as that grace belongs unto, according to the counsel of God’s own will, in His appointed time.” - Westminster Confession of Faith 28.6 The Reformed are not to deny that grace is conferred in baptism but ought to qualify that it is only conferred to the elect as it must be received in a Spirit given faith. In other words, as the Spirit draws you to appeal to God for a good conscience, the Spirit saves you through baptism.
This has been very informative! I’m always trying to figure out the differences in denominations. I was raised southern Baptist- then we went to a Nazarene church and I honestly never knew what it meant. Now I go to a southern Baptist church and still question if it’s where I fit in best
Thanks Emily. I have a video on The Church of the Nazarene and what they teach and also have one on Southern Baptists vs Independent Baptists. Maybe they would be helpful. Glad you enjoyed the video!
If Mary was visited by an Angel , and was told she was going to be given a virgin birth to the son of God , why would her and her family think Jesus was crazy and needs to be locked up ?????Mark 3:20 through 35 It's time to start using critical thinking
That’s part that’s wrong with the world today. A lot of people base things off of tradition which the Bible talks about in 2 Thessalonians 2:15, Matthew 15:3, 6 and Colossians 2:8. A lot of people believe and read in the Holy Bible from Genesis all the way to Revelation but debate or disagree on different beliefs regardless of if Jesus is only the Son of God or also God as well. Also baptism, sabbath day and so much more. I respect everyone’s belief and tell people I’m simply a believer/Christian and don’t go by Baptist, Apostolic or none of these man made denominations. I didn’t know until earlier this year that it’s over 45,000 denominations.
That's not at all ironic. That is like saying a soup kitchen should change their name because they don't believe that giving people soup is necessary for salvation. Baptists do believe baptism is necessary (because Christ commanded it) it just is not required for a person to go to heaven. Plenty of things are biblical but not required to go to heaven.
Proper Orthodox baptism is 3x full immersions. I don't know where you read otherwise, and in any case, anything else other than 3x full immersions is NOT practised in the present.
Orthodox baptize in many ways ... Just as do Catholics. Even the Russian Orthodox do not usually perform baptism using full immersion of adults. The Didache stipulates how baptism is to be conducted and it provides a variety of methods. it is pretty hard to dunk anyone in a baptistery found in most Eastern Orthodox churches today unless it is Tom Thumb and Thumbalina that you are attempting to baptize,,,,
@@CobraRedstone No it is not, ok why do you not explain to me why there is a baptismal font in most Greek orthodox churches where you cannot immerse even a baby into... do you tink an adult would be immersed into something that is no more than 9 inches deep??? The earliest Christian document is the Didache written by Catholic Jews and they wrote into in the rules for the mikveh. Go read chapter 7 of the Didache... it is all about how baptism is supposed to be performed,
@@drachenfeuer5042 ??? Scripture did not exist for the first 370 years of Christianity. Not one Bible prior to 400 AD has the correct books in it. The only reason you have a Bible is because of the printing press... that is also the only reason you are able to read. Before the printing press only 10% of the people could read... So scripture was useless to the ordinary people of the day. What we have is a magistrium and tradition just like Judaism. HEY DUNCE, show me where in the Bible it says you have to back everything up with scripture??? While you are at that can you show me the word Trinity in the Bible???
@@devonjosiah7308 - Until you learn that they are simply collecting a catalogue of useless acts of Theists, or use this information against Theists in a debate i.e. because of the various contradictions amongst Christians.
@@rumham8124 Wow. look, I'm a Theist, but Atheists aren't inherantly cringe and bad for society. As long as they respect us and our beliefs, and we respect theirs, then the differences are GOOD for society. Atheists, I'm so sorry you've got people like this belittling your beliefs. You are fantastic and we love you. You keep doing your thing.
You seem to have forgotten the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints. We believe that you must be baptized at the age of accountability by those in Authority to perform the ordinance, by immersion. Thanks
We're a tricky group to categorize, and he probably doesn't know that much about us. It would have been better if we were included but I can understand why he didn't. Most of our baptism beliefs were covered by the 'restored church' section. I did think it was interesting at 26:55 where he said our baptisms aren't accepted by other churches even though we use the 'father, son, and holy spirit' phrasing. I would need to look into if this is actually why but he says it's because we're not considered christian. To people who are confused, our more common name is Mormon, but we don't like being called that because it takes away the focus on Christ. We believe Jesus saves us from our sins, and we believe in grace, so we consider ourselves Christians. However we do not believe in the usual concept of the trinity, so many folks of other denominations think we aren't true Christians. Obviously I disagree with that view and think we should be included in his videos as a Christian church, but I'm not here to start any fights, and I learned a lot from this video anyways.
@@mintbrownieangelfish-6114 I am an non denominational Christian, yeah that is happen a lot with the Christians non trinitarian, they think we are not Christians
My church claims non-denomination, we preach the full new testament bible and reverence the old, anything it says we do from speaking in angelic languages to healing, saving souls and making disciplines to small church in family groups at homes like Paul said. We're just Christian and we preach the gospel. What would we be?
Do you believe that the baptism of the holy spirit happens after salvation or at the same time (or something else)? Is baptism by immersion? Is baptism necessary for a person to have salvation? For infants or believers only? Is there a rapture coming up and literal tribulation period, following it, or something else? Do you believe in the trinity (One God in three persons)? Your answers to these questions would help me answer you other question.
Admirable job covering such an exhaustive (exhausting? ) topic so well and thoroughly. Fine point re: Churches of Christ - there is no formality re: who may perform baptisms. Usually it's a minister or elder....or the one who taught the gospel to the "candidate". Furthermore, i think many of us resist the question, " is baptism necessary for salvation?" (thought we certainly consider it normative. We want to affirm all that scripture says re: baptism but recognize that..."the arm of the Lord is not shortened"....as it were.
Well done! Very thorough. My only comment: Reference to the Catholic Church as a "denomination" always makes me cringe. For me, it implies that Catholicism is a "subset" of THE Christian Church. Rather, it is the Catholic Church, in communion with the Bishop of Rome who is the successor of the Apostle Peter, that IS the one church established by Jesus of Nazareth about 2000 years ago. It is the one and only church given authority by Jesus (Mt 16:18-19) and all Christians (with a few exceptions) believe that Jesus IS God. So I'm asserting here that really, it is all the other faith traditions that are the "denominations", because historically it is these that broke away from this one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. While these denominations all teach without any divine authority, I accept that they all possess some elements of truth. But with so many different and conflicting beliefs about baptism, they obviously can't all be correct. Perhaps all denominations appeal to sacred scripture in forming their creeds. Yet even the bible refers to "the church" and not itself, as "the pillar and foundation of truth" (1 Tim 3:15). It is only the "Roman" Catholic Church that can claim by the "laying on of hands", an unbroken chain of succession to St. Peter (Acts 1:21-26, 1 Tim 4:14, 2 Tim 1:6). So any biblical appeal necessarily implies that it is this Catholic Church in the first place, that has the authority to declare these texts to be "the Word of God". It is sad that we Christians have splintered into all these denominations, and this is in spite of Jesus' prayer that "they may be one" (Jn 17). With baptism or for that matter, any topic of theology, it always comes down to the question of authority. I do think you did an excellent job of documenting and presenting all the different beliefs on baptism. Your treatment of the various faith traditions seems very fair and unbiased. My critique is intended to be given charitably so please forgive me if I've offended. That is not my intent. Thank you.
Charitably given comment. Extra nice that you are concerned if you offended...though RTH doesn't seem to reciprocate. Sad. It's a real spit in the face to call Holy Mother Church a "denomination," which is very easy to find out and not ecumenical. Not likely intended, but too little care was given.
Joe...: Right. Catholic is THE CHURCH! "Denominations" comes from the word "name" All the thousands of groups that broke away from the Church had to be identified somehow, so they adopted various names, and so became denominations.
@@alhilford2345 Yay I get you have been brainwashed to be judgemental on this subject. However the word church in Greek litterly means. " People called out from the world to God." Or those called out. So claiming any one apart from a memeber of the Catholic church is not part of the church. Is saying that person is not separated from the world and called out to God you are saying they are still part of the world. You never going to convince anybody with your type of agrument. You're basically claiming that only salvation through the Catholic Church through Jesus we get salvation. As opposed only salvation comes through Jesus. When you're basically saying everybody but Catholics are are heathens and going to hell. Even though I know Catholic Doctrine doesn't say that. It is a bit contradictory in that one area. Bad Doctrine comes from when you twist the meaning of words. Many denominations due that in areas when they make the meaning of a word what they want. Not what its actual definition was when its was written by the author. There's no point in believing the Bible was divinely inspired by the Holy Spirt if you can make words say what you want them to say not what everybody understood the words to mean at the time. You are literally rewriting the Bible and negating God's word.
The Catholic Church does not rebaptize. However, She does "conditionally" baptize individuals if there is a doubt as to whether they were baptized at all or if the individual was not correctly baptized. Also, a convert will undergo the other Sacraments of Initiation (Confirmation/Chrismation, and First Eucharist). This is typically done through the Rite (or Order) of Christian Initiation for Adults (R/OCIA). This is similar to the Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Churches, who typically administer all three Initiation Sacraments (Baptism, Chrismation and First Eucharist) to infants at the same time.
This is so interesting and informative! One very picky little detail, in the Catholic Church, only one Godparent needs to be Catholic. The other one just needs to be a Baptized Christian.
Thanks Megan. According to Catholic Canon law, such a second person is not really a sponsor (godparent), just a witness. Informally, people may refer to such a person as a godparent, but when the sacramental record book is filled out, they will not be listed as a sponsor (godparent) , only a witness. Can. 874 §1. To be permitted to take on the function of sponsor a person must: 3/ be a Catholic who has been confirmed and has already received the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist and who leads a life of faith in keeping with the function to be taken on. §2. A baptized person who belongs to a non-Catholic ecclesial community is not to participate except together with a Catholic sponsor and then only as a witness of the baptism. www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib4-cann834-878_en.html
@@ReadyToHarvest Wow. I feel silly. We did this with two of my three kids and no one ever said the second Godparent was actually just a witness. That's frustrating.
Emergency baptism??? What??? I consider myself a non-denominational christian. When our son was six months old we had him dedicated, when he is older and understands faith more then he can choose to be baptized. Forgot to add my husband and I are both baptized.
I find that 'choosing to be baptised' a bit erroneous. Most people that choose not to baptise don't think the ritual means anything. So why not baptise him if the ritual means something to you? Especially when he won't even remember it when he grows up. Also, as a christian, letting your child choose his own baptism is like not naming him and letting him choose his own name when he is old enough.
@@lGalaxisl I disagree with the second half of what you said, surely to have a firm faith you need to have a clear understanding of what that choice means and it how will affect your life. A baby has no understanding of this, therefore the baptism could be seen as illicit and as becoming a believer is a choice that a person has to make, a parent making the decision for a person doesn’t seem right. I think that it is BECAUSE it means a lot to Christians that they allow their child to make that choice when the time is right for them to do so.
@@averagejoe2798 It's admirable that some Christian parents think so highly of baptism. However, baptism is the entry into the church, and the gateway to communion with Christ. Letting your child wait until the "age of reason" (a concept that sneaked into the church during the enlightenment era) is barring your child from meeting with Christ. Moses didn't wait for the Hebrew kids to come to the age of reason before he crossed the Red sea with them, and both parents and children ate of the passover lamb.
I would say that it's probably due to the fact that most denominations regard the LDS Church as being a completely separate faith, rather than a denomination of Christianity, just as most Jewish denominations do not consider Christianity or Islam to be Jewish denominations.
We technically fit in the restorationists but the church of Christ is very small compared to the main branch of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Not sure why he’s include them as they too believe god and Christ are separate, but they no longer use the Book of Mormon.
@@zissler1 The group listed in the video under "Restorationist" is the Church of Christ (also called the Disciples of Christ), which was founded by Alexander Campbell and Barton Stone in the early 19th century. That church is trinitarian, had nothing to do with the LDS and never used the Book of Mormon. In fact, since its founding, the Church of Christ has held to the saying "No book but the Bible, no creed but Christ," and rejects any teachings outside of the 66 books of the Bible. You seem to be thinking of the COMMMUNITY of Christ, which was part of the LDS until Brigham Young took over leadership after the death of Joseph Smith.
@@DamonNomad82 The first thing that came up when I searched church of christ was this and this is what I based it off of: www.churchofchrist1830.org/history
I'm an Episcopalian/Anglican; our norm is infant baptism for the children of believers, but we do have adult baptisms of those who come to the Faith as adults. I visited a parish once where the building had housed a Baptist congregation previously, and it still had the baptistry, which was used for adult baptisms if the candidate desired. I have seen Episcopalian/Anglican baptisms in lakes and rivers, as well. We also have conditional baptism. If it is not certain if a person was baptized or not, or if the baptism was valid, then we do the liturgy as usual, except that the officiant will say, "If you are not baptized already, I baptize you. . . ." I've only seen this in cases of home-births when the child was born with problems, and the midwife--thinking that the child might not lilve-- baptized, and nobody present can remember which formula she used. (At one time, a part of a midwife's kit was a syringe fully of holy water so that she could baptize the child, if necessary still in utero.) We allow private baptisms if there is a good pastoral reason for it, but the norm is that it should be at the principal Sunday service of the congregation, and if at all possible on the Sunday After Epiphany, Easter, Pentacost, St. John the Baptist's Day, and All Saints.
Thank you for this channel you are excellent may the lord our God bless you and give u the spiritual decrement to continue on doing what work he tasks you with. 🌞💕
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost 2 John 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
As an evangelist in the churches of Christ, I can say that this video over-generalizes at least the church of Christ. I can only assume that is also the case for the others. I definitely understand the challenge (perhaps impossibility) of being specific with such a broad topic. Overall, good video. Just keep in mind, it is a general view of each church.
@@jey2275 Define cult, there are more mormons than Jews, at least acknowledge it as an Abrahamic religion, if you don't consider it to be Christian despite the full name being The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
@@KnuttyEntertainment so you don't now what is cult !?? In christianity there are a group that stretch away from the mainstream beliefs and develop their own baseless practices that's what a Christian cult is and it later becomes a religion different from christianity. Excuse me having Jesus in church name makes no different , Jesus is also in Islamic doctrines & stories that dosent make them Christian . Catholics, evangelicals , pentecostals , all out number Jews dose that make any difference to rights and wrongs . ??
@@KnuttyEntertainment Mormons have different Jesus , different salvation and everything is different but has some elements that Bible alone has that makes it a cult if you are one sorry it's never too late .
@@jey2275 Are you sure the beliefs that are mainstream now are the beliefs that were mainstream in the early church? Before the council of Trent, many considered a more mormon interpretation of the trinity to be acceptable, for example. You have to remember that like any book that has been around for thousands of years, the bible is subject to changing interpretations and cultural drift, just look at all the times the catholic church has changed its position on things. Just because things are mainstream now, doesn't mean they are, or always have been the defacto position. The "mainstream" media in America for example is hardly representative of the truth despite being the "credible" source for news. In first Corinthians chapter 15, it mentions both baptism for the dead and different degrees of glory in heaven. Even calling them by the names celestial and terrestial and comparing them to the glory of sun, moon, and stars respectively. So how can the mormon idea of having three degrees of heaven be considered so unbiblical and cultish? And before you fire back, "That's not the true interpretation." the mere fact that we have dozens of different denominations each strongly advocating for different interpretations, and yet all being considered Christian, seems to suggest that even Christians can't seem to agree on how to properly interpret the bible. So what makes the mormon interpretation so uniquely horrible? It seems pretty reasonable and just common sense if we're going by the letter of the bible alone. I'll leave you with a quote from the canonized Saint Athanasius of Alexandria.(296 AD - 373 AD) He was the twentieth bishop of Alexandria and a famed Christian theologian. He said: "The Son of God became man so that we might become God." What's crazy is not this teaching existed in the early church, but that it somehow reappeared in 1830's America, spoken by the mouth of an uneducated farm boy claiming to restore lost Gospel truths. If you don't agree with our interpretation, then that's alright. But to say to earnest followers of Christ that they are not welcome to take His name upon them, because they don't adhere to the understanding of man, is to cast off the poor and lowly in spirit just as the Pharisees cast away the righteous Samaritans. “Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (Matthew 25:40)
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality. 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction "
@@vladimirstolov9324 Name calling. Just what I have come to expect. Educated people? Are you sure you want to go down that road? Think about that REAL HARD.
@Steven Wiederholt Well at the end of the day, whoever repents and follows Christ, will be saved and those who don’t, will suffer. We should focus on that instead (I believe) “Educated people” believe they are educated since they have been comparing themselves with other humans, showing a sign of spiritual blindness.
@@user-wi6qi9tl5e "Well at the end of the day, whoever repents and follows Christ, will be saved and those who don’t, will suffer. We should focus on that instead (I believe)" THAT is exactly my point! I always put it this way. If you believe in the Apostles/Nicene creed (either version) You're in the Club, You get to spend Eternity in Heaven (for the record This Is A Good Thing :-)) If you don't, Sorry you get to spend Eternity in some place not so pleasant. Addendum: It is Not our job to say who is and who is not Saved. That's really handled by someone MUCH BETTER qualified to make that decision. Our job is to spread the Good News, as best we can.
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints: Candidate: Believer Mode: Full Immersion Only Number: One Direction: Backward Officiant: Priest, Elder, Bishop, or High Priest. Godparents: N/A. There are 2 witnesses required at the baptism to make sure the ordinance is performed correctly. Clothing: White clothing. Usually a white jump suit provided by the church. Formula: (State full name of person being baptized), having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Category: Ordinance Effect(Salvation): Part of Salvation. Baptism by proxy for the dead for those who did not receive baptism in life is also available. Rebaptism: Anyone who received baptism through any other church must be rebaptized (baptized by proper authority for the first time).
@@joshuatheunkownuniverse.2475 So were early Christians. I don't know why a Christian faith that follows Christ should be called a cult by other Christians following the same person.
@@jorgedasilva7665 Simply by adding "Church " in any group of sentence doesn't make it Christian. The base of the Mormon's faith is literally the contraction to our Christian faith. Moromon's faith is literally a mockery to our Christian beliefs. I as a Christian with the authority of the following scripture condemn such distortion of doctrine. Roman 16:17-20 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, but I want you to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Sorry to hurt your feelings but if I had supported your church I would be called as partaker of distortion of doctrine. Sorry!!!
@@joshuatheunkownuniverse.2475 Interesting. You seem awfully quick to assume my faith as well as to label others. Seems a bit unchristian. Also I love that your rebuttal is essentially just a long winded way of saying "I'm right," which is no basis for an argument. Also, where did I say that adding "Church" in the name of a religion makes them Christian? Who has ever made that argument? You make many claims but show no evidence. I can claim all day that YOU believe that you can't get into heaven unless you worship your local pastor. I would be wrong in doing so though. Also that scripture is meaningless. It could be used by ANY denomination against another.
@@jorgedasilva7665 unchristian!! Criticising a cult is a unchristian now!!. I don't care what you think about me because God never Change and He is what He is . I am not saying "I am right" ,any Christian who has profound knowledge of the bible can point out the errors in Mormon church and it's theology. That last argument about the scripture - seems like you have no idea what scripture speaks. I don't care if you are an atheist, Muslim, satanist or Buddhist. I would be surprised if you are a Christian who supports this cult becouse it would give the evidence of your lack of scripture knowledge.
I was raised a Baptist but a few years ago I converted to Reformed (Presbyterian). My kids are thankful that they get poured instead of dunked (fully immersed) as I was as a child...
I was raised Apostolic Christian in our faith we don't baptized infants because infants cannot repent only if your older like if your 12 years old it's by immersion in a pool it's done in Jesus name and received the gift of the holy ghost by speaking in new tongues just like it says on the book of Acts of you read Matthew , mark Luke or John nobody in those books got born again yet unto Jesus died and resurrection because the gospels is about Christ birth his mission his redemption
My father (born in 1926) was not breathing at birth. Along with the physician, my great-grandmother was in attendance for the home birth. She took my father and quickly baptized him under the tub faucet. Mucus or whatever was blocking his airway came out. So, being born to a Catholic family helped to save his life!
Coralie. So he lived and here you are today!
interesting.
now we got the little turkey baster/ squesebulb to suck out whatever in the newborn's mouth/lungs/sinuses.
Baptism is immersion not sprinkling nor pouring.... Baptism did not save his life... The doc rinsed the child and the procedure saved his life... Catholicism has nothing to do with it. If he died a Catholic and believed what they believe he, sadly, is not in heaven.
@@jimd9339 I suggest you look more into Catholic beliefs as you are sorely mistaken.
You are so knowledgeable, it’s almost like you’ve spent a lifetime in each church! As a Baptist to Catholic convert, everything you said about those was spot on. I appreciate when people deal with what Catholicism truly is without some of the unfortunately common misconceptions.
Baptism is to be done to a believer who is at least old enough to make a conscious commitment to serve.
Infant baptism?
Ditto.
@@verntoews6937 Where does the Bible say that? Or which of the Church Fathers wrote that? By way of analogy, the rite of circumcision marked one's entry into the people of God, yet there was no expectation that one must "be at least old enough to make a conscious commitment to serve." St. Paul saw in the parting of the Red Sea a type (a prefigurement) of Baptism, yet clearly the Israelites brought their little ones with them. The babies weren't simply left in Egypt until they could decide for themselves to journey to the Promised Land. As a former Baptist, I gleefully say that you are nullifying the word of God with the traditions of men.
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@@carissstewart3211 Where in the Bible does it expressly state that a baby must be Baptized? The Scriptural Evidence for what Vern had said is clearly see with Philip and the Eunuch, and after Peter's preaching on the Day of Pentecost. Both instances are shown to the reader very clearly. The Eunuch asks "What Doth hinder me to be baptized?" to which Philip says "If thou believest, thou mayest." When the men who had heard the Preaching from Peter, they asked "What shall we do?" To which Peter states "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins."
It's clearly laid out that the belief in Christ MUST come before the Baptism, which means that the person must be of an age to actually UNDERSTAND what that means. To answer your question on Circumcision, it was on the eighth day that a child was to be circumcised. And I don't understand where you get the idea that Paul had seen some sort of foretelling of Baptism in the parting of the Red Sea, I'd like the Scripture reference for that.
Thanks.
@@Peaches-No-Cream "Where in the Bible does it expressly state that a baby must be baptised?"
One - that is an argument from silence. And if there is no passage that explicitly says "infants must be baptised," there is likewise no passage saying "the children of Christians must be baptised only after making a profession of faith."
Two - the passages you cited link faith with baptism - however that does not mean that children were to be excluded. For as St. Peter said,
"Repent, and be baptised every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you *and to your children* and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him." (Acts 2:38-39)
Those passages speak to the necessity of baptism, not it's exclusivity to adults. Certainly we read multiple times about entire households being baptised. The families of Lydia, the philippian jailer, and Stephanas were all baptised. There is no logical reason to assume infants were excluded unless one already has that preconceived idea.
You missed my point about circumcision. I wasn't asking when circumcision was performed, as some non sequitur. I was pointing out that it was performed on infants! Adult men converting to Judaism would need to be baptized as adults. Abraham himself was circumcised as an old man after expressing faith in God. Jewish boys, however, are circumcised as infants in anticipation of faith. This is analogous to baptism, which St. Paul makes clear in Colossians 2:11 when he referred to baptism as "a circumcision made without hands" and "the circumcision of Christ."
Finally, that passage you asked about - it's 1 Corinthians 10:1-2:
" I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and *all were baptised into Moses in the cloud and in the sea...*
One can see very clearly, when the Bible is read as a whole, with the New Testament read in light of the Old Testament, that infants are to be baptized as well as converts to the faith. After all, our Lord did say,
"Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 19:13-14)
God bless
This is a really fantastic analysis. Not only are there differences between denominations, but within the confession of a particular denomination there are aspects that are viewed as crucial to doctrine and other aspects that are handled a particular way, but they’re not viewed as being on the same level. You presented both magnificently.
This video holds your attention and is presented in clear format that is both interesting and informative.
This is my favorite kind of Battle Royale
XD
Better than pubg
Or even fortnite
Like its more interesting
Dang it, forgot my parachute. (I'm sure the charismatics brought theirs)
I was baptized in a Catholic Church that was majority Black, and was fully immersed. This definitely isn’t the norm, but all of these variations are fascinating!
Yes, the Didache permits several methods of baptism.
The biggest reason for allowing pouring is that of practicality of spreading the gospel. If you are in the middle of the desert and someone wants to be baptised, it is not practical to require one to be immersed in water. This would allow someone to carry water around and baptise many people in "inhospitable" lands. If it's ok there, then it has to be ok everywhere.
@@deusimperator In 1984, I was a member of a new Catholic mostly white congregation. The church building we constructed included a Baptismal pool on the altar platform which allowed the candidate to be immersed or receive pouring.
Any catholic can baptise a person with water, however it is aplied. No biggie. To me it is mostly a sign that a person has joined the community.
@@mweskamppp the only norm is that the water touches the head of the one who receives baptism
As a Catholic, you gave a pretty fair and well rounded explanation of Baptism. The one fault I did see was the topic of "limbo". In the past, some Catholic theologians have discussed the idea of limbo, but has never been taught by the Church as a doctrine and truth. You cited the Catechism almost directly after bringing up limbo, but failed to note that limbo is nowhere mentioned there.
Anyhow, it was a wonderful video.
Seems like there's conflation here between the Eastern Catholics and Orthodox. It's unfortunate that the author of the video didn't do his homework. But honestly, I'm not surprised. Most non-Catholic Christians remain pretty misinformed about Catholicism.
Nine months later I came across this again and feel required to disagree. Limbo was official dogma until the infallible, unchangeable Roman Catholic Church changed it. The source I have for this included references to prove this but my memory for details is poor.
@@markhorton3994
limbo, in Roman Catholic theology, the border place between heaven and hell where dwell those souls who, though not condemned to punishment, are deprived of the joy of eternal existence with God in heaven. The word is of Teutonic origin, meaning “border” or “anything joined on.” The concept of limbo probably developed in Europe in the Middle Ages but was never defined as a church dogma, and reference to it was omitted from the official catechism of the church that was issued in 1992.
@@markhorton3994 Limbo has never been dogma or required belief in Catholicism.
@@ethanmcclain7570 Though Purgatory is.
Well done, sir. I like the way you present these differences objectively without being outwardly judgmental with regard to any specific group.
Except for the ones they left out.
@@karentippets4285 the video with every Christian cult would be twenty hours long.
@@karentippets4285 bro if you talk to a thousand different Christians about their beliefs you'll get a thousand different answers. It's not exactly a peer-reviewed science.
I’m impressed. I’ve taught this subject for 40 years and you’ve presented it accurately, fairly, and concisely. It’s clear you did your homework. (I’m from the Restorationist.)
I remember a class on Baptism when I was in the seminary back in the 70’s. Your overview has way more detail! Thank you.
Which church?
I greatly admire the level of research you put into these videos. As a former Salvation Army soldier now Anglican (ACNA), I'm glad you brought up the oddness of the Salvation Army's choice to stop baptisms and reject them in the corps as a whole.
Why did the SA stop adiministering Baptism?
@@brucealanwilson4121 The early Salvationists supposedly felt it was right, together with the Holy Spirit, for the Salvation Army to be a beacon within the church universal to show that one could live a holy life with out external ceremonies.
@@JLLawrencethe3rd So, they thought they knew better than Christ, who commanded the Apostles to baptize?
@@brucealanwilson4121 Implicitly, yes.
@@TorahisLifeandLight DID PAUL TEACH BAPTISM TO THE GENTILES?
Romans 6:3-4
Or don’t you know that all of us who were
baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized
into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
1 Corinthians 1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 12:13
For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body
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whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free
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and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
Galatians 3:26-27 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one
baptism Philippians (see Acts 16:33)
At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized
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Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in
baptism in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working
I've been in the Nazarene Church my whole life, and I've never known them to baptize infants. We do 'dedications,' but as far as I've witnessed, no infant baptisms. However, the Nazarene Church is very diverse, some leaning more to the Catholic side. Also, at the dedication, I've seen there be a 'congregational vow' of sorts, where the church promises to help raise the child in the way it should go.
Very interesting and very thorough, thank you! It's especially illustrative of the fact that Christians of all faiths see things differently (I'm Catholic), even though we are trying to see the same thing. It is remarkable how many of us see the others as wrong. That's a human frailty.
Honestly, Christianity has 40k levels of denominations.
As a Christian and a Warhammer fan I get this reference lol 😂
Christ forgives!!
Yes….he does.
Most differences are minor and don't start a denominational split.
@@FalconOfStorms Yeah, a good example of this is about 3/4ths of my church hold to the "New Hampshire Baptist Confession of 1853" while the other forth hold to "the Second London Baptist Confession of 1689"
But in the end of the day we're all family and get along.
Well, it's mostly protestants with the denominations. They have 33,000 denominations
There's only one Catholic and Orthodox church.
Wonderful video, thank you! As a member of the LCMS, I would like to add that in an emergency, we do allow any person (non Christian or Lutheran) to perform a baptism. We have a quick guide for it at the end of the small catachism. The baptism should then be reported to the local church pastor as soon as possible for recording.
Catholic babies may be baptized by anyone else in an emergency (i.e. no priest or deacon available) as long as the proper language and matter (water) are used
❤how would a nonchristian perform a baptism
@@richardbaranzini8805As long as they follow the correct method, we’re all God’s children, right? That specific non-Christian might not be saved, but he could help save another!
I am LCMS also, and I am certain that any CHRISTIAN can baptize in an emergency.
I have been hoping for this channel for ages
Dear Joshua,
This talk on the origins of different church bodies was excellent. Thank you for all the thought you put onto it, and, in turn, distilling it so clearly. Excellent work, for which I thank you again.
Sincerely,
Larry Clarence Lewis
Ontario, Canada.
I appreciate that Larry! Thanks for letting me know how you enjoyed it.
I grew up Baptist and learned that it's important to study and follow the bible... The most important thing I learned is that the traditions of man and the biblical instructions of God are two different things. But many conflate the two.
The worst part is those "traditions of man" tend to be pagan in origin. Non-denominational Protestantism is the way.
And that is why I'm a Lutheran (LCMS)
Spoken like a veritable dunce... you have not read what those "Traditions" really are. St. Paul tells you to follow the traditions he taught you... So what are these tradition Christ speaks of??? If you are not Jewish you are not going to know. This is legislation enacted a gezerah in the Beit Din Gadol. VERY SPECIFICALLY IT IS #7 enacted by Shammai ... It was abrogated by Gmaliel. One does not receive the faith through a book but through a tradition which is received.
??? So Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
What if you’re not around people of faith, so you don’t “hear” the word of God? Many people find God in jail, through a book. If you seek Him, you’ll find Him (Matthew 7:7-12)…
Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding… Not the understanding from traditions/rituals, which failed man to begin with (That’s why Jesus had to die for us to begin with. If all those laws, rituals, and traditions could have saved us GOD wouldn’t have done what He did to bridge the gap), but seek revelation from GOD… 1 John 2:27-28
Jesus fulfilled all those things when he said what he said in the cross (John 19:30). We live under Grace now (Romans 6:14).
2 Corinthians 3:6
The phrase "emergency baptism" puts a big smile on my face. I can easily imagine a new believer just learning about baptism and needing to be baptized now! I love the energy of new believers 🥰
Ah, I think the "emergency" authorization is more for like "person who is about to die, or very possibly might."
^Yup. Some think baptism is a requirement for salvation, so it's an emergency for a dying person to get one if they haven't. Excitement and enthusiasm don't qualify as emergencies.
Paul's writings make it clear people are saved by grace through faith (Romans 4, Ephesians 2, etc.) and Peter clarifies that water baptism isn't what saves, but rather an answer of good conscience toward God.
@@joegoodman8213 You just contradicted Peter, good job.
@@georgepierson4920 He says that in his first epistle, and it agrees with the rest of scripture.
Acts 16:33
Looking forward for the rest of the series
Thank you for taking the time to put this together!
It would be helpful if you did the same covering Communion/Lord's Supper. Thanks, and really enjoy this ministry!
Thanks! Your presentation’s clarity and thoroughness are greatly appreciated!!
Wow! Thanks so much Johnny! I am glad to hear that you have liked the channel. Lots more to come!
If I had to pick one favorite channel it would be this one.
I am very impressed with how thorough and respectful and varied this was. Well done!
This is probably as exhaustive analysis as one can hope to get on the matter. Well done. As a Reformed person from South Africa, I can vouch that you got the Reformed position 100% right.
Calvinism is heresy.
@@jimd9339 Nope. The Bible is literally drenched it the doctrine of divine election, the only reason why you cant see it is because you have a man centered theology. There are pages and pages of passages I can take you to, but here is one as clear as daylight, and off the beaten track Phillipians 2:13.
@@Hannodb1961 You are confused by Calvinism....or should I say Augustinianism? For Calvin followed Augustine...a lost Catholic!
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Who was Paul writing to? Saved folk. Not lost sinners.
Mankind has a freewill. Your complete religion is founded upon mankind NOT having a freewill. Calvinism is easily debunked by debunking that silly heresy.
I freely choose to reject Calvinism. My Saviour Jesus Christ the Lord predestined me to be against Calvinism.
All 5 points of Calvinism are heretical. Easily debunked. You have to do major mental gymnastics in order to force Calvinism into the Bible.
@@jimd9339 Oh, the irony, because if you believe in free will, you're actually on the catholic side. The very first debate between Catholicism and Protestantism was on this very issue, and you are standing on Rome's side. I stand on the side of Luther, you stand on the side of Erasmus.
Where did Calvyn get his ideas? From Paul, and Paul got it from Jesus. Read John 6, Jesus clearly state that the jews did not merely choose to reject Him, they were unable to come to Him, because they do not belong to Him. Or Acts 13 that says that all who were predestent to eternal life, believed. Or John 1:13, who emphisize 3 times that salvation is not of our will, but we are born from God. And btw, birth is something you had no choice in. Or Ephesians 2:1-10 that clearly state that we were dead in sin, and faith is a gift from God. I can go on and on and on, because the bible is not on your side. Could the Pharoah choose to let Israel go? Did Paul have a choice in his apostleship?
Yes, we have will, but that will is bound, not free. In Romans 6 Paul state you are either a slave of sin or a slave of rightiousness. Just like when you give a lion a choice between salad and meat, he chooses meat, because that is his nature. So too, the sinner chooses rebellion against God, and he cannot do any other, because it is his nature. You say you freely chose. Can you freely choose to change your desires? No, you cannot, because your choices are governmened by your desires, not the other way arround. You cannot choose for God unless God places the desire in your heart.
The idea of free will is incoherent. If your faith is based on free will, well then there is merit in the act of faith because it is something you do, and it is no longer the product of grace. But James says faith that does not produce good deads is dead, so where does those good deeds come from? If faith is the product of your choice, then so is your deeds. But then there is merit in those deeds as well. What is the minimim amount of good deeds necesary before your faith become invalid? And so, it doesn't take long for you to end up in a Roman Catholic position that sees your salvation as a combination of the merit and grace of Christ, as well as your own merit. You can only truly and coherently believe in grace alone, when both your faith and your works is a gift from God working in you through the Holy Spirit. That is what Jeremiah said when he Said God creates in us a new heart. That is what Jesus taught when He said no one can come to him unless its given to them by the Father, and they shall have eternal life, and that is what Paul taught in Romans 9. Free will is the lie that Satan peddled to Adam and Eve: the idea that we can be sovereign like God. That is why predestination is offensive, even to so many christians, because it strikes at the very root of sin: the notion of human sovereignty.
@@Hannodb1961 LOL You are hilarious.... No. Calvin got his heresies from Augustine who got his heresies form the Catholic cult... Calvinism is a cult just like Catholicism. Jesus did not teach that mankind does not have a freewill. The devil made the choice to sin... Adam made the choice to sin. God did not make either of them sin.
Here is an example of your reasoning:
2 + 2 is 5 or 2 + 2 are 5? You think that it is an either or thing when BOTH of your answers are wrong. It's not a choice between Catholicism and Calvinism!
A ton of research went into this video. I can say the description of what the southern baptist churches do is spot on. Beyond that the only thing I know is there is a profound change that takes place once you're baptized.
very accurate about the denominations I have personal experience with, comprehensive overview. really appreciate it!
I enjoy how neutral these videos are. It's a true learning experience
There is a church with over 16 million members, over 8 million members in the USA and you didn’t put them in a category? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Members of that organization and of the Watchtower Society cannot rightly be called fully Christian, as they do not believe in a single, triune God. The LDS believe in a host of gods and that Jesus is a separate being, despite Him saying "I and the Father are one"; the JWs don't believe that Jesus is God at all, despite Him saying "Before Abraham was, I AM."
A good measure on if a denomination is Christian is to see which baptisms the Apostolic Churches consider valid; as long as it's in the Name (singular, yet in a triune understanding) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and performed with water, converts to most Ancient Churches don't have to be rebaptized.
@@PianoForte9096 “I and the father are one”. That’s exactly what we believe. We believe that they are one in purpose but separate beings.
@@11cmower "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1). The rest of John 1 explicitly describes this Word as Jesus. This is why all Christian groups that can trace themselves directly back to the 1st century are Trinitarian -- it is the tradition handed down by the Apostles.
@@PianoForte9096 who is Jesus talking to in Mark 15:34? Is he speaking to Himself? Also Luke 23:46? We in the Church of Jesus Christ believe He is speaking to his literal Father in Heaven.
@@11cmower Catholics believe and have believed for nearly two milennia that Jesus is speaking to God the Father, the first person of the Trinity. In doing so, He quotes the first line of Psalm 22, a Messianic prophecy. Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, and the Holy Spirit is the third. These are three distinct persons whose will and substance is unitive in one being. How else can we reconcile that we are supposed to baptize in the name (singular, you can look at the Greek in Matthew 28) of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit? How else can we reconcile Jesus clearly proclaiming Himself as God, the Holy Spirit possessing divine attributes, and the truth that there is only one God?
The Apostle's Creed reveals how the earliest Christians interpreted Christ's conception: "conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary..." and not conceived by the Father.
Did you understand my "historical pedigree" argument, or would you like me to repeat it? We have an unbroken chain of authority from the Apostles to today -- so at what exact date could there have been a "Great Apostasy"? Before you answer, try reading the Didache, a Christian document very likely written before John's Revelation. It contains many of the most basic oral traditions.
From the Kirsopp Lake translation of "The Didache":
"1 Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," in running water; 2 but if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm. 3 But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit." 4 And before the baptism let the baptiser and him who is to be baptised fast, and any others who are able. And thou shalt bid him who is to be baptised to fast one or two days before."
I grew up in a denomination that practices believer's baptism by full immersion only. As such, we did not have baptism of babies, but we instead had dedication ceremonies where we pledged to help the child grow in his or her faith (and I understand that most denominations that ascribe to believer's baptism do this.) We had two godparents of each sex (four total) during my youngest cousin's dedication. However, my uncle is a LCMS minister, and I was baptized by him as a baby, though this was intended mostly in the same way as a dedication. When I got older, I was encouraged by other family members to be baptized by immersion if I chose to profess faith, so I was baptized again by full immersion when I was 13. As for my cousin, he was later baptized on his sixth birthday into the LCMS, though I can't recall the method that was used.
The act of baptism is a continuation of the Jewish practice of mikvah a ritual washing which was for purification before God. It was a full immersion as a washing.
For Roman rite Catholics , the key to the mode of Baptism is "flowing" water, which incorporates sprinkling, pouring, or immersion (partial or full).
The Catholic Church also recognizes two other forms of Baptism: of Desire (persons who seek full unity with the Catholic Church but who were never afforded an opportunity to receive water baptism) and of Blood (martyrdom).
Was expecting advice on agricultural engineering, stayed for a nuanced explanation of the confusing menagerie of Abrahamic religions. I have seen this kind of energy in science fiction or sport fans, I’d never seen a Christianity nerd before. Bravo
I am an ordained Salvation Army Officer. Lack of baptism has never been an issue except where I was asked to be the Godparent of a niece in a CoE Church. However, the priest accepted that baptism through the Spirit entitled me to be seen as baptised, and I was okay to become a Godparent.
If you believe in Christ, why on earth do you not seek out your own baptism?! Our Lord Himself commanded it and submitted to it Himself!
@@PipeDreamerJacques the Bible is clear that you can be saved without baptism.
@@ndenyer With all due respect, your glasses must need cleaning. Jesus Christ HIMSELF said you need to be baptized or you do not have supernatural life within you. This is to say nothing of the great commission where He instructed the apostles to go forth instructing the heathen and baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You need to get baptized, and pronto.
@@PipeDreamerJacques see (for example) Matt 3:11, Acts1:5. Baptism by the Holy Spirit is as applicable as water baptism according to John the Baptist and Jesus himself. The thief on the cross was not baptised, but was promised he would be with Jesus in paradise.
But please note I don’t decry water baptism in any way at all. It’s just not the way in my Church and I currently don’t believe I am missing out because of that.
@Party Peetz the Bible is very clear people can be saved without being baptised. And even your example seems to me to indicate the ability and desire to do so at that time. Just to be very clear, I don’t negate the blessing people may feel from baptism, I am simply convinced it not a necessity to salvation or holiness, but an adjunct.
I've never heard of several of these categories. It's no wonder things are so confused.
How so? These differences have nothing to do with salvation. I call them "intramural arguments" amongst Christians that all serve Jesus Christ.
2 John 9 sir. But truthfully all in denominations and their mother the Roman Catholic Church are lost. There are no denominations in the kingdom of God.
John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost
2 John 9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
@@aaronjordan7250 How are all denominations lost if they all believe and follow the verses you listed? You can be either saved or unsaved in any denomination.
@Robbie Parker all denominations do not believe or follow the verses I listed. Yea, some may preach acts 2:38. But that is where they stop.
@@aaronjordan7250 Can you give a specific example of a Protestant denomination that doesn't preach and follow the above verses you listed?
18:00 Sacraments and Ordinances
19:14 Baptism effect on your Salvation.
Most important part of the video!
Thanks devil! Lol
@@abdultuaheb123 Which version of the Quran is the best for English? Is there an English version of the Quran that all Muslims accept?
@@abdultuaheb123 Which one is better? And no I didn't click the link. And thank you!
This is the most thorough video on the topic I have ever seen!
Ready To Harvest, I'm not certain your name but it is evident that you have the gift of teaching. Thank you for serving Christ by sharing it!
I would like to make a slight correction. Pouring is the norm in the Latin-rite Catholic Church, by the Eastern Catholic Churches all practice primarily immersion
This is primarily because the Greek-speaking world understands the meaning of baptizo.
@@soundpreacher Baptizo does not necessarily mean “immerse”. And the Eastern Catholic Churches aren’t just Greek, they’re also Syriac, Egyptian, Semitic, Slavic, Asian, etc.
@@soundpreacher Have you read the Didache prepared by the first Catholics who were ALL Jews??? They provided several methods of performing a baptism. The Christian faith does not originated among Greeks but among the Jewish Catholics. The Jewish Catholics wrote in the rules for carrying out the Jewish mikveh into the Didache. Baptism was how one became Jewish, and the mikveh it is the point of conversion into Judaism.
So no one is going to mention the word "baptize" is a transliteration of the Greek word "baptizo", which means "to immerse"?
@Григорий Фэша Thanks for your thoughtful, lengthy copy and paste. But I'm not sure what it has to do with my comment. I'm simply saying the word "baptize" essentially means to immerse. Take it for what it's worth.
Did the Pharisees immerse their couches when they baptized them? (Mark 7:4)
@@dougdrummonds7406 mark 7:4 is a tradition made from the Jews that after they came home from the market place they must clean themselves and the things they used to eat with, because the fear they touched something “unclean” it would also make them unclean and sick. It’s nothing ceremonial. Also where in mark 7:4 talk ab baptizing couches?
@@beigemeoli7016 the KJV translates “baltizo” to “washing” here, so it isn’t exclusively immersion.
@@dougdrummonds7406 An unfortunate textual variant. However, you are focusing on the wrong word in this case. Baptizo still means "to immerse" - even in Mark 7:4. The issue here is whether or not "dining couches" was in the original text. Some have it. Some don't. Baptizo = immerse. Why are you determined to prove otherwise?
A gentle reminder that baptism was originally rooted in the Jewish Mikvah, which is a ritual bath. It goes all the way back to the deliverance from Egypt and the crossing of the Red Sea. The number of denominations is overwhelming. It’s best to understand the roots of baptism as understood by the original Jewish apostles.
Yes, most sacraments in the catholic/orthodox faith are similar in nature to a Jewish tradition.
Christian baptism is a burial (Romans 6:4; Colossians 2:12)
Thank you so much for making this video! It’s very informative and creative. The transition, colors, lay out and organization was well done.
You always miss the oriental churches. The old churches are Catholics, Orthodoxes and Orientals (Coptic, Arminians, Ethiopians, Eritreans and East Assyrians) they are Oriental Orthodox. Not part of the Catholics nor orthodoxy
You forgot the Malankara Christians of India.
Theres a lot of Apostolic Churches.
Orthodox Church, Roman Catholics, Eastern Catholic, non Calcedon Church, non Efesian Church, etc.
But I think our Bible interpretation is much more similar than the 19th-20th century denomination.
His focus is on churches/denominations which have significant presense in the U.S. There are very few Oriental churches in the U.S.
@Danijel Mornarić No, the Oriental churches are not in union with the bishop of Rome. There are some Eastern Catholics who use the rites of the Oriental churches. Not exactly the same though because of Latin influence.
He didn't do the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint's (otherwise known as Mormon, but we prefer not to be called that because it takes away from our focus on Christ) either. I guess it makes sense, we don't really fit into any of the categories mentioned (maybe restorationists) but we've still got a pretty interesting take on baptism that I wish he would have gone into.
Thank you for the research you did on this. I also appreciate the way you present this in a matter of fact way. I just found your RUclips channel yesterday.
Thanks Edward! I'm trying to fill some holes in RUclips - not a lot of good info on many of these topics.
@@ReadyToHarvest great stuff.
Will you do rapture views or other stuff like this
@@denonamp Yes, eventually. It's a lot of work. I like to do it but finding the time is hard.
Romans 6 "We are BURIED with him in baptism."
I am glad you quoted this verse. This verse uses the word him and not them. God is one and not three. God is a him and not a they or them. To be baptized with him according to this verse, one must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38. If not one is not part of the bride of Christ. Most so called cults teach that the God of the Jews is three. This is a lie the Jewish God is numerically one Dt6:4. He is one and his name is one ''Jesus Christ.''
The name "Roman Catholic" is incorrect.
There is ONE Catholic Church, consisting of twenty-three Rites, one of which is the Latin Rite.
This is frequently, and mistakenly, referred to as "Roman" by those who don't know better.
Should be Latin Rite Catholic Church.
@Pat Lance :
Sorry to disappoint you, but that is a heresy.
The Orthodox broke away from the Catholic Church.
Go back to your history books.
Here we go!! To apostates & cults arguing each other xD
What are the 23 rites.
Actually Latin rite Catholic refers to the western Catholic Church, those who use the western rite. The church however is the Catholic Church
Your channel is great!
I apreciate the great effort you have put in to remain unbiased and factual in your presentation. Your channel is a great resource for furthering one's understanding of Christendom at large. I genuinely don't know what denomination you are after watching about a dozen of your videos, which really speaks to your character as a presenter and intellectual.
if i was forced to guess i would say you are definitely protestent, and probably some sort of methodist, anglican, or lutheran, with my guesses being in order of confidence.
As a Catholic Christian, I'd like to correct the nomenclature here.
We don't say 'sprinkling' and 'pouring'. We say aspersion and infusion.
The accuracy is strong with this one...
In the Orthodox church, a bishop can baptize too (of course). In case of emergency, any orthodox Christian can perform the baptism, in any kind of liquid (no joke), as long as they are baptized themselves in the Orthodox Church, and they baptize in the Name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
It has to be water... you cannot get baptized with beer, coke or pepsi
@@deusimperator well, it's all about extreme cases
Given how many Catholic/Orthodox there are, it's likely that someone, somewhere, sometime was baptized in beer
@@fluffysheap The question regarding baptism with beer came before the CDF long time ago, and the answer was no. But that was beccase some one may have been baptized with beer and a bishop was inquiring if it was valid. The answer was no.
In the Catholic Church, it is required to recite this exact statement: "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit."
(It can not be "we baptize" nor any other form of the Trinity or feminization of the Godhead.).
Mormon baptisms are not recognized in the Catholic Church.
As a side note, the Catholic Church is not a denomination. United with the Church are the the Eastern Catholic Churches ("also referred to as Oriental Catholic Churches, Eastern-rite Catholic Churches, Eastern Rite Catholicism, or simply the Eastern Churches").
The Orthodox separated from the Catholic Church in 1054 AD.
Denominationalism began in the 1500's (Lutheran, Anglican).
Catholic Church is the true Church.
Jesus and apostles want Christian Unity
Ephesians 4:3-5 (KJV) Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
John 17:20-21 (KJV) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
2 Peter 1:20 (KJV) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Thank you! It's so aggravating to see general ignorance on this topic.
Thank you. The term Roman Catholic Church is false and ignorant.
@@akiram6609
More correct to say Catholic Church in which are included three Rites for Sacred Liturgical practice: Latin, Eastern and the new Anglican Rite.
Great video! I was raised in the Church of God in Christ (Black Pentecostal). We had "christenings" of infants. They included anointing with oil (not baptism), presentation of godparents and a congregational vow.
3rd generation Nazarene here. We do the same but call it "Dedicating" and is not considered baptizing the child..
I found this fascinating thank you for putting this video together. I grew up in a Baptist Church in southern IL. I was baptized back in 1999 in the Ohio river (the church's baptismal was broken at the time)
Great video...Well researched!
I was baptized as an infant in the Roman Catholic Church (1st one in the New World according to my Baptismal Certificate).
I am no longer part of Roman Catholic Church in the sense that I haven't attended since my 20's, and instead attend Protestant services. I consider myself a Non-Denominational Protestant follower of Christ. To that end, over the years, I have attended Baptist, Presby, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican Church of North America, even some non denominational churches.
Unfortunately I've been told, heard and read over the years that my Infant Baptism "doesn't count" and that i should have a "re-do" otherwise my salvation is in peril. I have trouble believing this since I have not read it anywhere in the Gospels (new or Old Testament for that matter) that infant baptism doesn't count. Especially learning that, culturally, back in those days (2,000 years ago) the head of the household brought his entire family to be Baptized (including small children and infants).
Then I read, mostly online, that unless a person is completely submerged in water that it too "doesn't count".🙄 🙄....again, i turn to the Bible and nope can't find where it says that u have to be dunked completely or it "doesn't count."
Then I think to myself "what about the thief on the Cross who was saved by Jesus?" was he baptized in water and completely submerged? No.
or
"What about all the people stuck in a hospital bed or a nursing home who have repented and turned to Christ, then request to be Baptized but cannot be submerged in water?"
...so i guess its...too bad so sad for everyone that didn't "do it right" according to those that believe in only adult submersion baptism.🙄
The way I feel is that, if i redo it it would be a re-baptism to me because I do recognize my infant baptism as legitimate. And so I would be making a mockery out of the Sacrament of Baptism by getting re-baptized under the concept that my first Baptism "didn't take". This is an insult and a mockery. I regard Baptism as Sacred experience. Hopping around getting re-baptized (which people have done repeatedly especially if they switch churches and it becomes a requirement for membership) doesn't make sense to me and just appears to cheapen the Sacrament.
There is only one God, one Word and one Church (Singular) in my Bible. Church is not a denomination or building, but a gathering of beleivers
We are not allowed to add anything to the Bible. To say there were small children in the house that was babtised is adding to the Word of God. Not all houses have small babies
Jesus was Circumsused as a Jew and then babtized as a grown man in water. He did not repent of his sin( because He was sinless( All other beleivers have to repent of their own sins and only than be baptized in water. A baby cannot repent. (Jesus died on a cross for that baby's sin.)
Neither can you wash off your sins.
Babtizing is something you do After you repented and turn away from your sinful life. Only after the act of being babtized in water will the Holy Spirit come and live inside your heart and guide you to strive to do the right things.
Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other.
For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.
I Corinthians 1:16 -17NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/1co.1.16.NKJV
And John bore witness, saying, “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him.
John 1:32 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/jhn.1.32.NKJV
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/act.2.38.NKJV
The thief on the cross has nothing to do with Baptism. That's a straw man Protestants try to use against the Catholic Church. If Jesus wants to snap his fingers and "Save" the thief, that's his decision. He's God. How arrogant to think you can hold Jesus to that. There's also Baptism of desire. God is a loving and merciful God. If someone is on the way to Church to get baptized and gets killed by a drunk driver, does God condemn him to hell? I don't think so. We are talking about the Normative way people enter the journey of salvation. You yourself are pretty much talking like a Catholic above. Come home. Go to Confession (another great Sacrament instituted by Christ), and come back where you belong and receive the Eucharist : the Main Sacrament of all. I'll be praying for you.
@@samuelswanepoel7926 You should try reading your Bible now and then. the Bible ALONE is a false teaching nobody believed or taught prior to Luther. It's also unbiblical. As for the Church - Jesus created One Church in Matt 16:18, the pillar and foundation of truth, in 1 Tim 3:15, and most importantly, the Final Authority, in Matt 18:15-18. Learn it, love it, live it.
@@PokerMonkey You say the Bible is unbiblical? Interesting choice of words. ... Read 2 Tim 3:16 " The WHOLE Bible is inspired by God.. "The rock the church is built on is not a literal building but means God who does not charge.
Take 1 Peter 2:7 as an example of non literal scripture where humans are depicted as stones Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
I Peter 2:7-8 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/1pe.2.7-8.NKJV
The church the Bible refers to is not a building but a group of beleivers. I do not belong to any 'denomination" I belong to God through Jesus Christ lead through the Holy Spirit 🙏
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.” Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Galatians 3:10-14 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/gal.3.10-14.NKJV
@@samuelswanepoel7926 No. I said “Bible ALONE” is unbiblical.
I was raised within the Nazarene denomination. I recall infant and child dedication services, but these were not thought of as being baptisms, more a declaration of the parents and the congregation to raise and teach the child the Christian faith.
Yes, I grew up in a Nazarene church from ages 11 to 15, and they did infant dedications, not infant baptism. However, I got out of that denomination and was Scripturally baptized and joined an ABA Landmark Missionary Baptist church at 17, the same denomination my grandfather was raised in.
I also remember a single rose was always presented to each of the baby’s parents during dedication. Do you remember that, as well?
@@farashahanem I don't recall the rose, but maybe that was a practice that that particular congregation liked and included?
I am Orthodox, and our main mode *should* be by three full immersions, though of course I cannot speak for every parish out there that might do a slight variation. Great content btw
It is not baptism that is important, but doing the things that JESUS taught.
@@johndoney2665 I respectfully disagree. Both are important.
Most Orthodox simply pour... only infants can be totally immersed in most parishes
@@deusimperator Yes, so that's pouring out of circumstances, not because it's supposed to be poured
@@goodbanter4427 FROM WHAT IS AVAILABILITY... IT depends on AVAILABILITY... The Western Church has performed baptism by pouring an option which was permitted, just as in Judaism were SPRINKLING is also permitted.
The colors line up perfectly with each denomination, and a rightly impression is left along with the information Excellent Presentation Ready to Harvest
awesome video! thanks so much. as a member of the Church of Christ / Christian Churches I can say that you’ve fairly described the general practice, but few of the specifics (officiant, clothing, formula) are standardized or thought to be critical to the validity. for example, the officiant is most common the local minister out of convenience but family or friends often perform the immersion as the spiritual effect is between the candidate and God. clothing is very much based on local preference and convenience. the formula is not standardized, but almost universally includes “in the name of the father son and holy spirit” “for the forgiveness of sin” and “to receive the gift of the holy spirit”.
Thanks Burton and I appreciate your additions.
agreed- in the CofC it was my baptized father who baptized me after I'd confessed my faith that Jesus Christ who IS the Son of GOD and upon my public confession my dad then baptized me in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost to receive the forgiveness of my sins.
It was a long time ago, but thinking back, I'm pretty sure that there was no mention of receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit although the church doctrine considered it a foregone conclusion.
Lutherans do have Godparents!! (at least here in germany)
In Finland aswell
And in the United States, as well.
American Lutherans do have God Parents and Lutherans do not believe that if you are not baptisedthen you cant have salvation.
Same in Brazil
My father’s side is American Lutherans and they don’t have god parents (in fact my dad finds it weird that as all of us have god parents on my moms side)...I was raised Catholic.
What might have been an interesting inclusion (assuming of course, that they don't share baptismal beliefs with Eastern Orthodox), is the Nestorian Church (Assyrian Orthdox, The Church of The East, etc...), and the Coptic Church and it's offshoots.
I tried to scan through all of the comments, but I don’t see any comment from an Orthodox Christian. We follow the “Οίκος” (household) model.In the case of emergency baptisms, there is a form, and must be in the name of the Trinity. The same is the case for recognizing other baptisms to receive chrismation, the baptism must have been in the name of the Trinity.
Love your content. It's a rabbit hole of sorts. Keep it up 👍
Excellent, incredible evaluation, analysis, and comparison, helping easily compare and contrast and understand denomination differences and I truly hope you’ll continue to create similar videos discussing and comparing different positions/issues. Very much looking forward to tour future content!
Brilliant! You guys should do this more for other topics like Salvation, Liturgy, Biblical Authority, etc.
I want to, it's just a ton of work. Planning to continue the series as time allows.
I hope you are getting paid for soo much work mate
Churches of Christ do not call their ministers a "pastor." Usually it is the minister or preacher, but elders can administer and I've even seen some fathers baptize their children.
My experience is that any male member can baptize. Commonly the preacher or evangelist that baptizes the person because he's the one that received the person when he/she came forward. I know of no scriptural limitations on the baptizer.
Yes, in the churches of Christ, the elders are the pastors. Long ago I heard of elders being called bishops after 1 Timothy 3:1. One local church calls their elders shepherds.
I’m going to create a new denomination who uses super soakers to baptize anyone we see walking down the road while we drive around in a white minivan. We will take gallons of water to as many different denominations as possible for it to be blessed by their respective leaders. Who’s in?
But in all seriousness, this is very informative and I appreciate the work you put into it
Just a note about this: While his explanations are good, he glossed what makes the baptisms effectual. It’s one thing to say “these 5 denominations see baptism as effectual for salvation” it’s quite another to explain the “why” or “how” behind that statement. It’s clearly the work of the Holy Spirit interacting with the faith of the candidate. Therefore, while grabbing a super soaker is funny, it’s of no good. Otherwise I’d be on the street corner with one myself bringing more people to Jesus than Billy Graham could even imagine 😂
Do a web search for "COVID baptism water gun." 😁
Watch out when you do this with fluid from the CFSM.
Marinara stains.
Ramen.
Only if we get to wear nerf vest...and crocs in sport mode.
For those out there that believe that baptism is necessary for salvation I present the story of the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He did not tell him that he would have to be baptized before being with him in paradise. Baptism is a declaration of faith.
Being Pentecostal I was dedicated at my birth by my parents. Which bound my parents to raising me in the faith and teaching me what it means to be Christian. Also claims the Lord's providence over my young life. When I was considered old enough to understand my choice, I always called it age of accountability, I was expected to join in the baptism when next it came around. This was a result of my choice to accept the gift of grace.
But a person that accepts the gift of grace a moment before they die is just as valid in their salvation as I am after living the faith all my life.
I am not a huge stickler on the minute details of the different baptisms. The purpose of baptism is a symbolic washing away of sins and entering the church as a new creature and a declaration of your faith. The baptism in and of itself does not mean you are saved or not saved. We do it because we love the lord and he told us to do it.
That point was addressed in the video. The thief on the cross could not have been baptized but his expression of faith and act of charity was what saved him, it was a baptism of desire. Note that the video also points out the Catholic position that God is not limited by the sacraments but they are the normal means for us to be united with him.
Interesting to see this video along with the squabble between every denomination in the comments. While it may sound like something an edgy atheist would say as a counterargument, obedience is what matters. If you faithfully believe in one type of baptism and are obedient to it under an honest belief you are honoring the father, you will experience the blessings, though while not as much as one who has followed the true doctrine and followed it out. What the true doctrine is is what you must find out for yourself, with holy scriptures and faithful prayer as your guiding tool.
You did an excellent job condensing a very complicated issue into a very short and concise presentation! Two additions - the Catholic officiant must use the singular 'I' when baptizing. There have been cases where the officiant has stated 'we' baptize and the baptism was invalid. The Catholic Church will also offer ‘conditional’ baptisms for adults who are coming into the church and are unsure of they have been baptized or if their original baptism was valid. Keep up the good work.
That statement from the PCA denying any salvific efficacy in baptism is so depressing. Our confessional standards explicitly state, ““by the right use of this ordinance, the grace promised is not only offered, but really exhibited, AND CONFERRED, by the Holy Ghost, to such (whether of age or infants) as that grace belongs unto, according to the counsel of God’s own will, in His appointed time.” - Westminster Confession of Faith 28.6 The Reformed are not to deny that grace is conferred in baptism but ought to qualify that it is only conferred to the elect as it must be received in a Spirit given faith. In other words, as the Spirit draws you to appeal to God for a good conscience, the Spirit saves you through baptism.
I agree. I was hoping he would give a reference so I could check if there was some subtlety in the PCA article being missed.
This has been very informative! I’m always trying to figure out the differences in denominations. I was raised southern Baptist- then we went to a Nazarene church and I honestly never knew what it meant. Now I go to a southern Baptist church and still question if it’s where I fit in best
Thanks Emily. I have a video on The Church of the Nazarene and what they teach and also have one on Southern Baptists vs Independent Baptists. Maybe they would be helpful. Glad you enjoyed the video!
If Mary was visited by an Angel , and was told she was going to be given a virgin birth to the son of God , why would her and her family think Jesus was crazy and needs to be locked up ?????Mark 3:20 through 35
It's time to start using critical thinking
That’s part that’s wrong with the world today. A lot of people base things off of tradition which the Bible talks about in 2 Thessalonians 2:15, Matthew 15:3, 6 and Colossians 2:8. A lot of people believe and read in the Holy Bible from Genesis all the way to Revelation but debate or disagree on different beliefs regardless of if Jesus is only the Son of God or also God as well. Also baptism, sabbath day and so much more. I respect everyone’s belief and tell people I’m simply a believer/Christian and don’t go by Baptist, Apostolic or none of these man made denominations. I didn’t know until earlier this year that it’s over 45,000 denominations.
The biggest irony is that Baptists don't believe baptism is necessary. Not saying they're wrong, but why didn't they pick a different name?
That's not at all ironic. That is like saying a soup kitchen should change their name because they don't believe that giving people soup is necessary for salvation. Baptists do believe baptism is necessary (because Christ commanded it) it just is not required for a person to go to heaven. Plenty of things are biblical but not required to go to heaven.
Proper Orthodox baptism is 3x full immersions. I don't know where you read otherwise, and in any case, anything else other than 3x full immersions is NOT practised in the present.
Orthodox baptize in many ways ... Just as do Catholics. Even the Russian Orthodox do not usually perform baptism using full immersion of adults. The Didache stipulates how baptism is to be conducted and it provides a variety of methods. it is pretty hard to dunk anyone in a baptistery found in most Eastern Orthodox churches today unless it is Tom Thumb and Thumbalina that you are attempting to baptize,,,,
@@deusimperator I've only heard online slander saying this.
Orthodox baptism is full immersion x3, no exceptions.
Back it with scripture
@@CobraRedstone No it is not, ok why do you not explain to me why there is a baptismal font in most Greek orthodox churches where you cannot immerse even a baby into... do you tink an adult would be immersed into something that is no more than 9 inches deep???
The earliest Christian document is the Didache written by Catholic Jews and they wrote into in the rules for the mikveh. Go read chapter 7 of the Didache... it is all about how baptism is supposed to be performed,
@@drachenfeuer5042 ??? Scripture did not exist for the first 370 years of Christianity. Not one Bible prior to 400 AD has the correct books in it. The only reason you have a Bible is because of the printing press... that is also the only reason you are able to read. Before the printing press only 10% of the people could read... So scripture was useless to the ordinary people of the day. What we have is a magistrium and tradition just like Judaism. HEY DUNCE, show me where in the Bible it says you have to back everything up with scripture??? While you are at that can you show me the word Trinity in the Bible???
As an atheist, this video is amazing and highly informative! keep up the great work!
it's wholesome seeing atheist learning about religion, and religious people learning about atheism
@@devonjosiah7308 - Until you learn that they are simply collecting a catalogue of useless acts of Theists, or use this information against Theists in a debate i.e. because of the various contradictions amongst Christians.
Real men aren't atheists, atheism is cringe and bad for society.
@@rumham8124 Wow. look, I'm a Theist, but Atheists aren't inherantly cringe and bad for society. As long as they respect us and our beliefs, and we respect theirs, then the differences are GOOD for society. Atheists, I'm so sorry you've got people like this belittling your beliefs. You are fantastic and we love you. You keep doing your thing.
@@mintbrownieangelfish-6114 a woman with a wrong opinion? im shocked lol
You seem to have forgotten the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints. We believe that you must be baptized at the age of accountability by those in Authority to perform the ordinance, by immersion. Thanks
We're a tricky group to categorize, and he probably doesn't know that much about us. It would have been better if we were included but I can understand why he didn't. Most of our baptism beliefs were covered by the 'restored church' section. I did think it was interesting at 26:55 where he said our baptisms aren't accepted by other churches even though we use the 'father, son, and holy spirit' phrasing. I would need to look into if this is actually why but he says it's because we're not considered christian.
To people who are confused, our more common name is Mormon, but we don't like being called that because it takes away the focus on Christ. We believe Jesus saves us from our sins, and we believe in grace, so we consider ourselves Christians. However we do not believe in the usual concept of the trinity, so many folks of other denominations think we aren't true Christians. Obviously I disagree with that view and think we should be included in his videos as a Christian church, but I'm not here to start any fights, and I learned a lot from this video anyways.
@@mintbrownieangelfish-6114 I am an non denominational Christian, yeah that is happen a lot with the Christians non trinitarian, they think we are not Christians
My church claims non-denomination, we preach the full new testament bible and reverence the old, anything it says we do from speaking in angelic languages to healing, saving souls and making disciplines to small church in family groups at homes like Paul said. We're just Christian and we preach the gospel. What would we be?
Do you believe that the baptism of the holy spirit happens after salvation or at the same time (or something else)? Is baptism by immersion? Is baptism necessary for a person to have salvation? For infants or believers only? Is there a rapture coming up and literal tribulation period, following it, or something else? Do you believe in the trinity (One God in three persons)? Your answers to these questions would help me answer you other question.
Admirable job covering such an exhaustive (exhausting? ) topic so well and thoroughly. Fine point re: Churches of Christ - there is no formality re: who may perform baptisms. Usually it's a minister or elder....or the one who taught the gospel to the "candidate". Furthermore, i think many of us resist the question, " is baptism necessary for salvation?" (thought we certainly consider it normative. We want to affirm all that scripture says re: baptism but recognize that..."the arm of the Lord is not shortened"....as it were.
Well done! Very thorough. My only comment: Reference to the Catholic Church as a "denomination" always makes me cringe. For me, it implies that Catholicism is a "subset" of THE Christian Church. Rather, it is the Catholic Church, in communion with the Bishop of Rome who is the successor of the Apostle Peter, that IS the one church established by Jesus of Nazareth about 2000 years ago. It is the one and only church given authority by Jesus (Mt 16:18-19) and all Christians (with a few exceptions) believe that Jesus IS God. So I'm asserting here that really, it is all the other faith traditions that are the "denominations", because historically it is these that broke away from this one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. While these denominations all teach without any divine authority, I accept that they all possess some elements of truth. But with so many different and conflicting beliefs about baptism, they obviously can't all be correct. Perhaps all denominations appeal to sacred scripture in forming their creeds. Yet even the bible refers to "the church" and not itself, as "the pillar and foundation of truth" (1 Tim 3:15). It is only the "Roman" Catholic Church that can claim by the "laying on of hands", an unbroken chain of succession to St. Peter (Acts 1:21-26, 1 Tim 4:14, 2 Tim 1:6). So any biblical appeal necessarily implies that it is this Catholic Church in the first place, that has the authority to declare these texts to be "the Word of God". It is sad that we Christians have splintered into all these denominations, and this is in spite of Jesus' prayer that "they may be one" (Jn 17). With baptism or for that matter, any topic of theology, it always comes down to the question of authority. I do think you did an excellent job of documenting and presenting all the different beliefs on baptism. Your treatment of the various faith traditions seems very fair and unbiased. My critique is intended to be given charitably so please forgive me if I've offended. That is not my intent. Thank you.
Charitably given comment. Extra nice that you are concerned if you offended...though RTH doesn't seem to reciprocate. Sad. It's a real spit in the face to call Holy Mother Church a "denomination," which is very easy to find out and not ecumenical. Not likely intended, but too little care was given.
A denomination is just another name for a sect. Catholics are their Christian sect even though they believe they are the only valid church.
Joe...:
Right.
Catholic is THE CHURCH!
"Denominations" comes from the word "name"
All the thousands of groups that broke away from the Church had to be identified somehow, so they adopted various names, and so became denominations.
@@simplyafederalist :
Actually, the Catholic Church IS the only valid Church.
That is why it is not a denomination!
@@alhilford2345 Yay I get you have been brainwashed to be judgemental on this subject. However the word church in Greek litterly means. " People called out from the world to God." Or those called out. So claiming any one apart from a memeber of the Catholic church is not part of the church. Is saying that person is not separated from the world and called out to God you are saying they are still part of the world. You never going to convince anybody with your type of agrument. You're basically claiming that only salvation through the Catholic Church through Jesus we get salvation. As opposed only salvation comes through Jesus. When you're basically saying everybody but Catholics are are heathens and going to hell. Even though I know Catholic Doctrine doesn't say that. It is a bit contradictory in that one area. Bad Doctrine comes from when you twist the meaning of words. Many denominations due that in areas when they make the meaning of a word what they want. Not what its actual definition was when its was written by the author. There's no point in believing the Bible was divinely inspired by the Holy Spirt if you can make words say what you want them to say not what everybody understood the words to mean at the time. You are literally rewriting the Bible and negating God's word.
*love this series.* it's real cool.
Why do we have to make this so difficult? Trust in Jesus and be good to each other.
Different interpretations of Scripture. If it weren't difficult there would be no denominations and everyone would agree.
The Catholic Church does not rebaptize. However, She does "conditionally" baptize individuals if there is a doubt as to whether they were baptized at all or if the individual was not correctly baptized.
Also, a convert will undergo the other Sacraments of Initiation (Confirmation/Chrismation, and First Eucharist). This is typically done through the Rite (or Order) of Christian Initiation for Adults (R/OCIA).
This is similar to the Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Churches, who typically administer all three Initiation Sacraments (Baptism, Chrismation and First Eucharist) to infants at the same time.
This is so interesting and informative! One very picky little detail, in the Catholic Church, only one Godparent needs to be Catholic. The other one just needs to be a Baptized Christian.
Thanks Megan. According to Catholic Canon law, such a second person is not really a sponsor (godparent), just a witness. Informally, people may refer to such a person as a godparent, but when the sacramental record book is filled out, they will not be listed as a sponsor (godparent) , only a witness.
Can. 874 §1. To be permitted to take on the function of sponsor a person must:
3/ be a Catholic who has been confirmed and has already received the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist and who leads a life of faith in keeping with the function to be taken on.
§2. A baptized person who belongs to a non-Catholic ecclesial community is not to participate except together with a Catholic sponsor and then only as a witness of the baptism.
www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib4-cann834-878_en.html
@@ReadyToHarvest Wow. I feel silly. We did this with two of my three kids and no one ever said the second Godparent was actually just a witness. That's frustrating.
JESUS IS THE TRUTH WAY and the LIFE.
Emergency baptism??? What??? I consider myself a non-denominational christian. When our son was six months old we had him dedicated, when he is older and understands faith more then he can choose to be baptized.
Forgot to add my husband and I are both baptized.
Usually when you say you are non-denominational your beliefs tend to align with one of the denominations but you just don't know it yet.
He was referring to those who believe baptism is an essential part of salvation, not believer’s baptism
I find that 'choosing to be baptised' a bit erroneous. Most people that choose not to baptise don't think the ritual means anything. So why not baptise him if the ritual means something to you? Especially when he won't even remember it when he grows up.
Also, as a christian, letting your child choose his own baptism is like not naming him and letting him choose his own name when he is old enough.
@@lGalaxisl I disagree with the second half of what you said, surely to have a firm faith you need to have a clear understanding of what that choice means and it how will affect your life. A baby has no understanding of this, therefore the baptism could be seen as illicit and as becoming a believer is a choice that a person has to make, a parent making the decision for a person doesn’t seem right. I think that it is BECAUSE it means a lot to Christians that they allow their child to make that choice when the time is right for them to do so.
@@averagejoe2798 It's admirable that some Christian parents think so highly of baptism. However, baptism is the entry into the church, and the gateway to communion with Christ. Letting your child wait until the "age of reason" (a concept that sneaked into the church during the enlightenment era) is barring your child from meeting with Christ. Moses didn't wait for the Hebrew kids to come to the age of reason before he crossed the Red sea with them, and both parents and children ate of the passover lamb.
Love this channel and find the information fascinating, but as a Latter-day Saint I'm curious why our denomination is normally ignored in your videos.
I would say that it's probably due to the fact that most denominations regard the LDS Church as being a completely separate faith, rather than a denomination of Christianity, just as most Jewish denominations do not consider Christianity or Islam to be Jewish denominations.
We technically fit in the restorationists but the church of Christ is very small compared to the main branch of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Not sure why he’s include them as they too believe god and Christ are separate, but they no longer use the Book of Mormon.
@@zissler1 The group listed in the video under "Restorationist" is the Church of Christ (also called the Disciples of Christ), which was founded by Alexander Campbell and Barton Stone in the early 19th century. That church is trinitarian, had nothing to do with the LDS and never used the Book of Mormon. In fact, since its founding, the Church of Christ has held to the saying "No book but the Bible, no creed but Christ," and rejects any teachings outside of the 66 books of the Bible. You seem to be thinking of the COMMMUNITY of Christ, which was part of the LDS until Brigham Young took over leadership after the death of Joseph Smith.
@@DamonNomad82 The first thing that came up when I searched church of christ was this and this is what I based it off of:
www.churchofchrist1830.org/history
@@DamonNomad82 There is the community of christ but a follower of joseph smith did create a church called church of christ as well.
I'm an Episcopalian/Anglican; our norm is infant baptism for the children of believers, but we do have adult baptisms of those who come to the Faith as adults.
I visited a parish once where the building had housed a Baptist congregation previously, and it still had the baptistry, which was used for adult baptisms if the candidate desired. I have seen Episcopalian/Anglican baptisms in lakes and rivers, as well.
We also have conditional baptism. If it is not certain if a person was baptized or not, or if the baptism was valid, then we do the liturgy as usual, except that the officiant will say, "If you are not baptized already, I baptize you. . . ." I've only seen this in cases of home-births when the child was born with problems, and the midwife--thinking that the child might not lilve-- baptized, and nobody present can remember which formula she used. (At one time, a part of a midwife's kit was a syringe fully of holy water so that she could baptize the child, if necessary still in utero.)
We allow private baptisms if there is a good pastoral reason for it, but the norm is that it should be at the principal Sunday service of the congregation, and if at all possible on the Sunday After Epiphany, Easter, Pentacost, St. John the Baptist's Day, and All Saints.
Thank you for this channel you are excellent may the lord our God bless you and give u the spiritual decrement to continue on doing what work he tasks you with. 🌞💕
John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost
2 John 9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
Isn't it funny how the Bible is written in Ye Olde English . Verily verily I say unto thee, it is bullshiteth
As an evangelist in the churches of Christ, I can say that this video over-generalizes at least the church of Christ. I can only assume that is also the case for the others. I definitely understand the challenge (perhaps impossibility) of being specific with such a broad topic. Overall, good video. Just keep in mind, it is a general view of each church.
What about mormons?
It's a cult not qualified to be Christian
@@jey2275 Define cult, there are more mormons than Jews, at least acknowledge it as an Abrahamic religion, if you don't consider it to be Christian despite the full name being The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
@@KnuttyEntertainment so you don't now what is cult !?? In christianity there are a group that stretch away from the mainstream beliefs and develop their own baseless practices that's what a Christian cult is and it later becomes a religion different from christianity.
Excuse me having Jesus in church name makes no different , Jesus is also in Islamic doctrines & stories that dosent make them Christian .
Catholics, evangelicals , pentecostals , all out number Jews dose that make any difference to rights and wrongs . ??
@@KnuttyEntertainment Mormons have different Jesus , different salvation and everything is different but has some elements that Bible alone has that makes it a cult if you are one sorry it's never too late .
@@jey2275 Are you sure the beliefs that are mainstream now are the beliefs that were mainstream in the early church? Before the council of Trent, many considered a more mormon interpretation of the trinity to be acceptable, for example. You have to remember that like any book that has been around for thousands of years, the bible is subject to changing interpretations and cultural drift, just look at all the times the catholic church has changed its position on things. Just because things are mainstream now, doesn't mean they are, or always have been the defacto position. The "mainstream" media in America for example is hardly representative of the truth despite being the "credible" source for news. In first Corinthians chapter 15, it mentions both baptism for the dead and different degrees of glory in heaven. Even calling them by the names celestial and terrestial and comparing them to the glory of sun, moon, and stars respectively. So how can the mormon idea of having three degrees of heaven be considered so unbiblical and cultish? And before you fire back, "That's not the true interpretation." the mere fact that we have dozens of different denominations each strongly advocating for different interpretations, and yet all being considered Christian, seems to suggest that even Christians can't seem to agree on how to properly interpret the bible. So what makes the mormon interpretation so uniquely horrible? It seems pretty reasonable and just common sense if we're going by the letter of the bible alone.
I'll leave you with a quote from the canonized Saint Athanasius of Alexandria.(296 AD - 373 AD) He was the twentieth bishop of Alexandria and a famed Christian theologian. He said: "The Son of God became man so that we might become God."
What's crazy is not this teaching existed in the early church, but that it somehow reappeared in 1830's America, spoken by the mouth of an uneducated farm boy claiming to restore lost Gospel truths.
If you don't agree with our interpretation, then that's alright. But to say to earnest followers of Christ that they are not welcome to take His name upon them, because they don't adhere to the understanding of man, is to cast off the poor and lowly in spirit just as the Pharisees cast away the righteous Samaritans. “Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (Matthew 25:40)
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
By Francois Gautier.
Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.
1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
"Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!!
There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction "
Would love for you to put out something like this on the topic of salvation. Great channel, God bless
Thanks Ronald. I would love to do it. Videos like this one are a big task but it is obviously a very important topic.
I often wonder what God thinks of all these differences.
i'm not sure about your god, but educated people everywhere know you are all idiots
@@vladimirstolov9324
Name calling. Just what I have come to expect.
Educated people? Are you sure you want to go down that road? Think about that REAL HARD.
@Steven Wiederholt
Well at the end of the day, whoever repents and follows Christ, will be saved and those who don’t, will suffer. We should focus on that instead (I believe)
“Educated people” believe they are educated since they have been comparing themselves with other humans, showing a sign of spiritual blindness.
@Vladimir Stolov
I bear no hate towards u and I hope u find Jesus in your life😇
@@user-wi6qi9tl5e
"Well at the end of the day, whoever repents and follows Christ, will be saved and those who don’t, will suffer. We should focus on that instead (I believe)"
THAT is exactly my point! I always put it this way. If you believe in the Apostles/Nicene creed (either version) You're in the Club, You get to spend Eternity in Heaven (for the record This Is A Good Thing :-)) If you don't, Sorry you get to spend Eternity in some place not so pleasant.
Addendum: It is Not our job to say who is and who is not Saved. That's really handled by someone MUCH BETTER qualified to make that decision. Our job is to spread the Good News, as best we can.
Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation.
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:
Candidate: Believer
Mode: Full Immersion Only
Number: One
Direction: Backward
Officiant: Priest, Elder, Bishop, or High Priest.
Godparents: N/A. There are 2 witnesses required at the baptism to make sure the ordinance is performed correctly.
Clothing: White clothing. Usually a white jump suit provided by the church.
Formula: (State full name of person being baptized), having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
Category: Ordinance
Effect(Salvation): Part of Salvation. Baptism by proxy for the dead for those who did not receive baptism in life is also available.
Rebaptism: Anyone who received baptism through any other church must be rebaptized (baptized by proper authority for the first time).
Sorry but it's a cult.
@@joshuatheunkownuniverse.2475 So were early Christians. I don't know why a Christian faith that follows Christ should be called a cult by other Christians following the same person.
@@jorgedasilva7665 Simply by adding "Church " in any group of sentence doesn't make it Christian.
The base of the Mormon's faith is literally the contraction to our Christian faith.
Moromon's faith is literally a mockery to our Christian beliefs.
I as a Christian with the authority of the following scripture condemn such distortion of doctrine.
Roman 16:17-20
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, but I want you to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Sorry to hurt your feelings but if I had supported your church I would be called as partaker of distortion of doctrine.
Sorry!!!
@@joshuatheunkownuniverse.2475 Interesting. You seem awfully quick to assume my faith as well as to label others. Seems a bit unchristian.
Also I love that your rebuttal is essentially just a long winded way of saying "I'm right," which is no basis for an argument.
Also, where did I say that adding "Church" in the name of a religion makes them Christian? Who has ever made that argument? You make many claims but show no evidence. I can claim all day that YOU believe that you can't get into heaven unless you worship your local pastor. I would be wrong in doing so though.
Also that scripture is meaningless. It could be used by ANY denomination against another.
@@jorgedasilva7665
unchristian!!
Criticising a cult is a unchristian now!!.
I don't care what you think about me because God never Change and He is what He is .
I am not saying "I am right" ,any Christian who has profound knowledge of the bible can point out the errors in Mormon church and it's theology.
That last argument about the scripture - seems like you have no idea what scripture speaks.
I don't care if you are an atheist, Muslim, satanist or Buddhist.
I would be surprised if you are a Christian who supports this cult becouse it would give the evidence of your lack of scripture knowledge.
I'm more than impressed with this presentation.
I was raised a Baptist but a few years ago I converted to Reformed (Presbyterian). My kids are thankful that they get poured instead of dunked (fully immersed) as I was as a child...
I was raised Apostolic Christian in our faith we don't baptized infants because infants cannot repent only if your older like if your 12 years old it's by immersion in a pool it's done in Jesus name and received the gift of the holy ghost by speaking in new tongues just like it says on the book of Acts of you read Matthew , mark Luke or John nobody in those books got born again yet unto Jesus died and resurrection because the gospels is about Christ birth his mission his redemption