We love traveling with our cats!!! We like having two cats with us so they can keep each other company if we are away for a few hours. And of course, twice the snuggles!
@QuailSnail good to know! Pur kids are still fairly small, and I'm considering getting a smaller trailer for adventures in National Parks. Do your cats go with you on those trips as well? How do you manage that?
@@anbernguarrine1319 We love having our cats with us!! We hope you take your cats with you as well, having other cats at the campground is always a treat. Good luck!!
Great vid & sweet trailer. We have exactly the same blue-cushioned 1723 except we went with the lighter coloured wood. Re: the bunks, my son is 6'2" and he fits perfectly. That was one of the main reasons we went with the Alto...the bunks are perfect for tall kids. Of course the fact that it fits in the driveway and I didn't need to buy a truck also counts in its favour :) I think the only reason to go 1713 is if both big folks are tall and they want to sleep in a twin configuration. If you like to sleep together, the 1723 gives you the indoor shower with no real sacrifice. We've only done a few weekend warrior trips since we got it last fall...we'll take your advice and get some kind of mattress topper before we embark on our epic Rockies adventure this summer!
Hey Alto Twin!! Good to know that the bunks work for even taller teens. Ours are growing each and every day. We did end up getting a memory foam topper we used for a week long trip in February. Game changer!! We’ll do a short video about it soon. Hope you have a great trip this summer, and happy camping!!
Thanks for the video.. I love the Safari Condo Alto trailer...good build...great resale value..so overall not nearly as expensive as it seems . But to be honest I would take the 2114 over the 1723 any day...do you homework. The only drawback is it's hard to find a dealer.
You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it! And we’re glad you’ve found the Safari Condo product that matches your style of travel. It’s great there are so many options. Recently, the dealership in Durango, CO was approved to start selling the SC trailers. Depending on where you are, that might be closer than Quebec. Happy camping!
Great video! One additional difference regarding the bathroom between the 1713 and 1723 is that the 1723 bathroom takes up some of the floor space compared to the 1713. In the 1723 this means doing a coordinated 'shuffle' when someone is at the front table, someone is standing at the kitchen, and the front person wants to go to the back of the trailer. I am not sure if this shuffle occurs in the 1713 but it definitely occurs in the 1723.
@@QuailSnail We have the SC memory foam on the King Bed (1713), and then we got denser foam on the front bed (post purchase). The longest we have ever gone is 12 days, but our SC bed is SO comfortable. We tend to sleep well and long. No aches or pains. I regret getting the installed inverter (would NOT do that again).
Thanks for the great video :). Really helps me because we are waiting on a R1723, so we are trying to decide the options. One question I have which I haven’t found answer to is. Does the toilet have a flush similar to what is in a traditional home toilet?
Hi Utteema, glad the video was helpful. It's almost like a residential toilet flush. There isn't a tank of water, so the handle is on the side of the seat, and you hold it down for as long as needed to flush the waste.
Curious to know where you would store the additional Memory foam mattress… and how much weight it would add to the trailer. Also, did you have your trailer weighed formally at a local weight scale?
@@paulbarrett8406 Hi Paul, have a two inch topper, rather than a mattress. We roll it up like a burrito and store it across the back bench when it’s not in use. We have not had our trailer weighed, and we haven’t weighed the mattress. Our guess is somewhere between 10-50 pounds.
@@paulbarrett8406 Grey tank for the new models of R series Altos are 92 liters or about 24 gallons. Black tank is 54 liters or 15 gallons. How often you have to empty them depends entirely on how you use them. We’re a family of four, but we often camp in places with bathrooms available to us. In that case we can go at least a week without emptying our tanks. If we’re boondocking, with four of us, we can go a few days before we need to dump. Your mileage will vary.
I know I’m late but hope you will answer my question. Can you manually raise the roof if needed? Also, there was another Alto owner and he got the cabinet and brings a small microwave with him that he stores under the bed seat.
Hi Carolina, the roof runs on electricity, I haven't heard of a situation where someone needed to do it manually. There are some reset instructions available if it gets stuck halfway up or down, but we have never had a problem. And yes, some folks stash a microwave under their beds and pull it out when needed. I love how creative people get when packing in a small space.
We tow with a truck, but there are plenty of Alto owners who tow with non-trucks. Some folks have SUVs for towing and some Alto owners tow with Teslas.
Hi Jerri, I haven't heard of the option to swap in a convection oven. I did a quick scan of the Altoiste Facebook group and didn't see anyone who'd gotten a convection oven straight from Safari Condo. But it's always worth asking. If Safari Condo know folks are interested, they might start offering it. So far we've been okay with the fridge. In our three week trip last summer, we shopped along the way, stopping for more milk and more sandwich supplies. On long trips we also carry a rubbermaid bin in the truck with extra dry goods, more oatmeal, more bread, etc. I suppose it sort of depends on how long you are out for, how far away supplies are, and how many perishables you usually consume. Hope this is helpful!
We haven't done any subfreezing camping in it, though we've dipped into the thirties, certainly. Safari Condo describes it as a "three season camper." Lots of folks winterize their Altos in the coldest months for storage, but we're in the parts of California that rarely freeze.
You travel with two cats... yay! That's exactly my plan too. So glad to hear it's working
We love traveling with our cats!!! We like having two cats with us so they can keep each other company if we are away for a few hours. And of course, twice the snuggles!
We live in the Bay Area so your videos are very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks!!! We're glad you are enjoying them. Happy exploring!
Thanks for showing the bunks that your kids are using. There's not a ton of videos with kids (and I'm looking for them) so thanks for sharing!
You are very welcome! They’ve gotten bigger since we made that video, and they are still comfy in their bunks. :)
@QuailSnail good to know! Pur kids are still fairly small, and I'm considering getting a smaller trailer for adventures in National Parks. Do your cats go with you on those trips as well? How do you manage that?
Oooo NVM, I found video #32! ^_^
@@anbernguarrine1319 We love having our cats with us!! We hope you take your cats with you as well, having other cats at the campground is always a treat. Good luck!!
Excellent video, thanks for the One year on review and Q&A (Thanks from Australia :-)
You are very welcome, thanks for watching!!
Very good video well done folks.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!!!
Great vid & sweet trailer. We have exactly the same blue-cushioned 1723 except we went with the lighter coloured wood. Re: the bunks, my son is 6'2" and he fits perfectly. That was one of the main reasons we went with the Alto...the bunks are perfect for tall kids. Of course the fact that it fits in the driveway and I didn't need to buy a truck also counts in its favour :) I think the only reason to go 1713 is if both big folks are tall and they want to sleep in a twin configuration. If you like to sleep together, the 1723 gives you the indoor shower with no real sacrifice. We've only done a few weekend warrior trips since we got it last fall...we'll take your advice and get some kind of mattress topper before we embark on our epic Rockies adventure this summer!
Hey Alto Twin!! Good to know that the bunks work for even taller teens. Ours are growing each and every day. We did end up getting a memory foam topper we used for a week long trip in February. Game changer!! We’ll do a short video about it soon. Hope you have a great trip this summer, and happy camping!!
Thank you. I'm searching for a trailer to primarily boondock. Appreciate your video on the Alto
Good luck in your search! Happy camping!
Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video.. I love the Safari Condo Alto trailer...good build...great resale value..so overall not nearly as expensive as it seems . But to be honest I would take the 2114 over the 1723 any day...do you homework. The only drawback is it's hard to find a dealer.
You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it! And we’re glad you’ve found the Safari Condo product that matches your style of travel. It’s great there are so many options. Recently, the dealership in Durango, CO was approved to start selling the SC trailers. Depending on where you are, that might be closer than Quebec. Happy camping!
Great video! One additional difference regarding the bathroom between the 1713 and 1723 is that the 1723 bathroom takes up some of the floor space compared to the 1713. In the 1723 this means doing a coordinated 'shuffle' when someone is at the front table, someone is standing at the kitchen, and the front person wants to go to the back of the trailer. I am not sure if this shuffle occurs in the 1713 but it definitely occurs in the 1723.
So true Paul, and we also call it "the shuffle." I sort of assumed this was also the case in the 1713, but would be very interested to know for sure.
Memory foam a must!
Good to know! Do you have the memory foam from Safari Condo or did you get a topper after picking up your trailer?
@@QuailSnail We have the SC memory foam on the King Bed (1713), and then we got denser foam on the front bed (post purchase). The longest we have ever gone is 12 days, but our SC bed is SO comfortable. We tend to sleep well and long. No aches or pains. I regret getting the installed inverter (would NOT do that again).
Thanks for the great video :). Really helps me because we are waiting on a R1723, so we are trying to decide the options. One question I have which I haven’t found answer to is. Does the toilet have a flush similar to what is in a traditional home toilet?
Hi Utteema, glad the video was helpful. It's almost like a residential toilet flush. There isn't a tank of water, so the handle is on the side of the seat, and you hold it down for as long as needed to flush the waste.
Curious to know where you would store the additional
Memory foam mattress… and how much weight it would add to the trailer. Also, did you have your trailer weighed formally at a local weight scale?
Also wondering what size grey and black tanks your trailer has. How often do you have to empty them?
@@paulbarrett8406 Hi Paul, have a two inch topper, rather than a mattress. We roll it up like a burrito and store it across the back bench when it’s not in use. We have not had our trailer weighed, and we haven’t weighed the mattress. Our guess is somewhere between 10-50 pounds.
@@paulbarrett8406 Grey tank for the new models of R series Altos are 92 liters or about 24 gallons. Black tank is 54 liters or 15 gallons. How often you have to empty them depends entirely on how you use them. We’re a family of four, but we often camp in places with bathrooms available to us. In that case we can go at least a week without emptying our tanks. If we’re boondocking, with four of us, we can go a few days before we need to dump. Your mileage will vary.
I know I’m late but hope you will answer my question. Can you manually raise the roof if needed? Also, there was another Alto owner and he got the cabinet and brings a small microwave with him that he stores under the bed seat.
Hi Carolina, the roof runs on electricity, I haven't heard of a situation where someone needed to do it manually. There are some reset instructions available if it gets stuck halfway up or down, but we have never had a problem. And yes, some folks stash a microwave under their beds and pull it out when needed. I love how creative people get when packing in a small space.
Thanks for sharing. Do you have an induction stove installed?
No, just the toaster oven. It's a pretty small space.
I like the trailer and the bunk. What is the trailer's external width? Thanks.
Hi James. The trailer is seven feet wide, and there's a handle by the door that sticks out an additional four inches.
@@QuailSnail Thanks for replying. I have 2 kids as you too.
Hi, what kind of vehicle do you have to tow the Alto?
We tow with a truck, but there are plenty of Alto owners who tow with non-trucks. Some folks have SUVs for towing and some Alto owners tow with Teslas.
Do you know if there is an option for a Convection MW? Also, do you find the refer too small for a family of 4? Thanks
Hi Jerri, I haven't heard of the option to swap in a convection oven. I did a quick scan of the Altoiste Facebook group and didn't see anyone who'd gotten a convection oven straight from Safari Condo. But it's always worth asking. If Safari Condo know folks are interested, they might start offering it.
So far we've been okay with the fridge. In our three week trip last summer, we shopped along the way, stopping for more milk and more sandwich supplies. On long trips we also carry a rubbermaid bin in the truck with extra dry goods, more oatmeal, more bread, etc. I suppose it sort of depends on how long you are out for, how far away supplies are, and how many perishables you usually consume.
Hope this is helpful!
How is your Alto in sub-freezing temperatures?
We haven't done any subfreezing camping in it, though we've dipped into the thirties, certainly. Safari Condo describes it as a "three season camper." Lots of folks winterize their Altos in the coldest months for storage, but we're in the parts of California that rarely freeze.
Thank you for your reply.
does it have A/C , heater ?
Hello!! Yes, the Ato has both a heater and an A/C. We've used both quite a bit.
@@QuailSnail
Thank you
Can not find one of these trailers for under 35,000$ crazy
They are extremely well built, innovative design, excellent construction - sometimes you get what you pay for.