Ok so let me get this straight, guy was a normie personal trainer in austin, and he stumbled upon a goldmine content orbit with huge influencers with millions of followers, and he couldn't convert it to anything more than what he did because he isn't that interesting or entertaining or captivating. I havent seen anything but some surface level react content on his channel, he better not be displeased with his austin circle he was lucky to come by, and be more displeased about what he did with the opportunities he was given. and if he thinks he DESERVES more than to be an anchor to some of these rich streamers around him he's actually become a real streamer; delusional :D he should stay in austin and keep capitalizing on fitness content, most of these Austin 10 viewer leeches would KILL to be in the position he's in but he thinks he can get more, nah man. keep doing your thing and appreciate the people around you.
He's lucky to be where he is as a "Just Chatting" streamer. If he wants change, he needs to get tf up and actually create content, nothing comes to you for free...
It’s already been said here but the LA streamers just are not the group he thinks they are. Everyone in Austin is a “character” they do so much irl content it’s like a reality show. The LA streamers are more isolated and they don’t really do much outside of the massive events. I always think of Will Neff, he was the sidekick of so so long. That’s where wake is at currently. Will had to distance himself from LA
This guy is all talk no action. Always talking about doing content but all he does is react to clips unless a bigger streamer spoon feeds him a collab. He said his time had passed to grow and it's impossible to do so unless you are a girl while mr arther proves him wrong in every way.
Well Arther is getting all tbose because he is nicks duo. And from shipping content with fanfan. Arther doesn’t stream when Nick is live. Nick goes offline and all the Nick fans watch Arther.
Wake is done for being a nice guy. Can't blame him if he leaves Austin. I guess it's true. Streamers are 2 face narcissists who hates each other. They just use each other to farm content. Mizkif is right. There's no real friends in this business.
Wake doesn't get that LA streamer barely does anything together. It's not like he can walk into Hasans stream like he does on Mizkif or whoever. Also wasn't he meant to go to Italy with Mizkif?
Some of these clips are out of context, but the crux of his message is pretty much still there: he doesn't want to be seen as a side character for streams anymore and I think he's finally realized it. It's gonna be hard for him to break the mold of being an "OTK orbiter" if that's the road he wants to go down, but I guess he's frustrated of feeling like he's not being included in things. He mentioned the EU Oktoberfest stream idea with Nick and the others changing, which nick has mentioned going to EU before but only with extraemily. I'm not sure what set him off this stream more than others but I'm guessing he's been feeling like this for a while now.
Idk It seems like he doesn’t go out of his way to set up streams with others. He just waits around for OTK to invite him places. He’s blaming them but he could easily go out himself and ask to film IRL with Extra Emily, Or Nick who have been filming a lot recently. Cinna did a good job of growing out of the OTK orbital role, Same with Mr Arthur. You really just have to go out and make plans and stream with other people.
I only heard of his from camp knut one and i don’t even know if he was a streamer at the time. He is doing good for someone that streamed for like 1-2 years
Even in camp knut 2 it was like he wasn´t even there, he just doesn´t take opportunities to take the lead or to engage viewers from other streams to follow him. I clicked his stream a couple of times but it´s always him reacting to something and giving like a serious speech
Wake was born to be a side character, he shines as a side character, his streams are boring af when it's just him. And he makes no effort to plan collabs and streams really. This is why even if he moved to L.A he wont grow much or at all.
They make a lil money now suddenly they have a ego. Mf wake was nothing without miz, n esfand giving him home n now he goes to LA for few days he doesn’t belong in austin
Fr I tried watching his stream, he has no content, if he leaves he will loose the 1k viewers he had from miz and nick. Bro should be happy with what he has. Nick's rule no.1 applies here.
i think i have a comment somewhere when people were praising him and i said something to the effect that money hasn't tainted him yet. Whelp guess he got a taste of financial freedom. Also, you are right.. i think you gotta always remain humble to all those that made you
I generally like wake, but I'm pretty sure I've *never* seen him create his own content. He participates or reacts... or talks about creating content. The flakiness of streamers would get annoying, no doubt, but it's going to be like that everywhere and he's gotta bring more to the table as an entertainer if he wants 'more clout' in this space. I didn't hear anything resembling a plan... if that's the case, I think he's in for a bit of a rude awakening if he thinks LA is the solution to this problem.
i dont think he is mad at nmp, miz or emi. he always cope himself with guy streamers cant blow up on internet anymore. but when misterarther blow up he shocked. wake should be judging his own content not others dont do anything with him. nmp only pushed arther for a month and he did it. miz pushed wake all gym era for 3 months in this year but wake couldnt do it. this is not his friends fault. he should find his own content style and while doing it he should focus on being others streams too for relevance. And he is right about Tectone.
Tectone I was honestly fine with until the last few months, you can tell he's fallen off a dark cliff of some sort. He's just worse than ever. Now I can't stand him.
Spiraling this hard because no one from Austin wants to take him on Europe tour on their dime. It's literally just that. Miz flaked on Italiy and Nick ignored his Oktoberfest idea.
"How i'm casted to viewers" Nah bro thats just you, dont blame others. I used to watch Wake but he mentions Cancer so oftenly that i had to stop watching him, i dont care if his parents died it for it, my mother also did and i know its not something cool to mention so in vane. Kind of out of touch guy. Also he's super SJW over any clip, overeacts a lot. Also he threw mizkif under the bus, when that shit came out, literally crying to the camera.....
I get that it's a rough position to be in, feeling overshadowed or like a second thought. It's also ironic, since he's probably the most well-adjusted and "normal" person of the circle who'd be more successful under everyday circumstances, which likely leads to his typecasting as the foil to more chaotic characters. That said, while I'm a pretty infrequent viewer, I don't recall seeing him take content initiatives either. Most people who are accused of being orbiters or leeches still do more to innovate than I've seen him do. Glad I'm not a streamer. Sure, there's money in it, but chasing relevance all the time seems soul draining. He seems like the kind of guy who'd be better off just quitting streaming, getting a full-time job and doing real things with real friends without "content" marketability being a factor. That's not a critique of him as a person. If anything, it's appreciation for a person rather than a character the person plays.
I mean he isn't wrong. I feel like is is someone who can reflect his situation quite well and even tho I don't know what LA people he is talking about, if he feels that this would be a better fit for him he should do it.
Yeah his streams are incredibly boring, he's fun to watch as a side character on other streams though. I love the end of this video where he shits on people though, especially the EMI part lmao. It's so true
@@Asdfasdf-k8v I just don’t see how he will create content, Ive never even seen him try doing it in Austin, He streams late night PC stream’s yapping all the time.
i like him top.. but he does it to himself. Also, like he says he's kinda typecasted himself into the good guy sidekick. I can't even name one piece of content he's done aside from camp knut and desktop streams though. Like do some things man
I don't know the full context myself tbh. But I wonder if it's something to do with how much katchii has blown up. Like wake was on nick's stream near enough everyday training nick before camp knut 2 started. And pretty much no growth. Whereas Katchii didn't even exist before top streamer and rn she's got 18k viewers with Nick.
@@robbieweld7928 Wake never blew up, cause he's boring as fuck. He's basically Knut, with ZERO personality. We already got Knut and he's great, funny as hell. We don't need the homeless man's version of Knut, as well.
Never would've thought wake would become one of my most disliked people in the Austin circle but here we are, he somehow did it in just a few (recent) streams.
Emi left mizs house cause mizs house got leaked and multiple stalkers were showing up she had to get multiple restraining orders on them and had to move period. Everyone in that house is moving emi was just the first to do it
@@umop3plsdn What? Emi just moved into a different house she was literally on his stream just a couple days ago while maya denies his entire existence and everytime she is asked how she started streaming she basically prints the narrative of her doing it on her own lol
@@josem7927 she was at 1,9k viewers one month, while streaming for 7 years before Miz. Hardstuck at 1k viewers for 7 years is not great as a titty streamer -> uwu e-girl, I wouldnt really call that a following.
Wake needs to find his "lane". He doesn't like to do what Miz and NMPLOL does, he isn't a heavy gamer, he isn't a reaction andy... Maybe he could move towards full time commentary like Hasan....
doesnt really seem like wake really likes any of his friends and has very low self esteem. he views himself from the eyes of others but the origin of his thoughts are coming from himself
La streamers talk highly of anyone they interact with because they just lie. Don’t think a single la streamer has ever watched his stream outside like Caroline.
Anyone can talk but actions are different and if he doesn’t like it it’s okay to move on but I don’t think he will enjoy living in LA it’s fun to visit but not to live there
@@Lambsbecomeg0dsbro you’re so dumb lol Austin streamers are yeah La people are fake af , guarantee you that the people saying that shit are the most fake of them all.
Him, Extraemily, and now ItsKatchi all don't have communities of their own. Each one of them are nothing without being around a bigger streamer to carry their content.
ExtraEmily is not like the other two. She has a 4k to 6k core community that shows up even when she's doing ads and when she's streaming at the same time as Miz, Nmp or Emiru.
Can't really compare any of them. Emily's been doing good content for years and is one of the top streamers on the platform. Katchii has barely started but already pulls insane numbers, pretty sure already 2-3k are gonna watch her above anyone else. Both have been incredibly effective in converting exposure into regular viewers. Wake has had a shameless amount of exposure but absolutely zero content. Very different case.
1 - "i told y'all" - who tf are you? seriously who even are you and who tf are you to tell us that as if anybody that will ever read that comment has ever seen you before let alone knows you let alone gives a fuck about what you say? 2 - "wake was worse than tectone" - and before this, which is completely different for wake to normally do, and is completely out of character, what was it that made him worse than tectone that you also felt so strongly about telling everyone that he is and to assume people would, again, give any amount of fucks about what YOU have to say, let alone knows you, and, thats right, let alone has ever seen you before.... 3 - "dude is the worst" - how is he the worst exactly? its literally just this vid that came out of nowhere besides maybe 100 or so dedicated wake stream viewers who might've seen him like this across how many streams? more than this 1 stream that this all came from? its the same shirt in every cut 4 - how tf did this get 22 comment likes. feels like people who newly dislike wake after watching this disappointing clip comp of what is likely 1 stream, and now they're just upvoting all wake hate/naysay 5 - learn to phrase your shit better next time. nobody knows you or cares bro, out with the shit you say and gtfo
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Ok so let me get this straight, guy was a normie personal trainer in austin, and he stumbled upon a goldmine content orbit with huge influencers with millions of followers, and he couldn't convert it to anything more than what he did because he isn't that interesting or entertaining or captivating. I havent seen anything but some surface level react content on his channel, he better not be displeased with his austin circle he was lucky to come by, and be more displeased about what he did with the opportunities he was given. and if he thinks he DESERVES more than to be an anchor to some of these rich streamers around him he's actually become a real streamer; delusional :D he should stay in austin and keep capitalizing on fitness content, most of these Austin 10 viewer leeches would KILL to be in the position he's in but he thinks he can get more, nah man. keep doing your thing and appreciate the people around you.
Schizo af
Bro just reacts to other streams. He has said his doing IRL content since the beginning he has never done it.
He's lucky to be where he is as a "Just Chatting" streamer. If he wants change, he needs to get tf up and actually create content, nothing comes to you for free...
@@benster156 Well worded, I agree. Wake's gotta put in effort, I notice him complaining more than doing anything else...
Seems like if he does go to LA the same thing is gonna happen, especially if he doesn’t push for content.
It’s already been said here but the LA streamers just are not the group he thinks they are. Everyone in Austin is a “character” they do so much irl content it’s like a reality show. The LA streamers are more isolated and they don’t really do much outside of the massive events.
I always think of Will Neff, he was the sidekick of so so long. That’s where wake is at currently. Will had to distance himself from LA
if anything i think the LA crowd is way more fake.
Always better to try something new than to be stuck as the "side character" in Austin forever
@@donjon5704 As others said, he will be the side character in LA too if he doesnt change his strategy of waiting around to be invited to stuff.
On this side of twitch LA is not the place for regular collabs, they do big events then don't do shit with each other for months
Watching the vod he was on edge about everything it seems, every clip looks like it was triggering him
QTCinderella does so many events in LA. Malena isnt there to do events in Austin anymore.
This guy is all talk no action. Always talking about doing content but all he does is react to clips unless a bigger streamer spoon feeds him a collab. He said his time had passed to grow and it's impossible to do so unless you are a girl while mr arther proves him wrong in every way.
He acted like this when Julia started streaming when someone new comes in and finds success he gets very salty about it.
Well Arther is getting all tbose because he is nicks duo. And from shipping content with fanfan. Arther doesn’t stream when Nick is live. Nick goes offline and all the Nick fans watch Arther.
@@Lambsbecomeg0ds Wake was doing duo gym streams every day with nick for months and getting the raid after. He's barely seen growth.
Wake is done for being a nice guy. Can't blame him if he leaves Austin. I guess it's true. Streamers are 2 face narcissists who hates each other. They just use each other to farm content. Mizkif is right. There's no real friends in this business.
Wake doesn't get that LA streamer barely does anything together. It's not like he can walk into Hasans stream like he does on Mizkif or whoever. Also wasn't he meant to go to Italy with Mizkif?
yeah that was never going to happen lol.
I can see Wake as a travel streamer irl streamer, he does have experience traveling in south latin American countries etc.
1000/10 take. Agreed. I think IRL is what would take Wake northbound career wise.
I could see why he is so frustrated there. Seems like he gets egoed way too much. He’s been a good sport for a long time but he’s reached his limit.
Some of these clips are out of context, but the crux of his message is pretty much still there: he doesn't want to be seen as a side character for streams anymore and I think he's finally realized it. It's gonna be hard for him to break the mold of being an "OTK orbiter" if that's the road he wants to go down, but I guess he's frustrated of feeling like he's not being included in things. He mentioned the EU Oktoberfest stream idea with Nick and the others changing, which nick has mentioned going to EU before but only with extraemily. I'm not sure what set him off this stream more than others but I'm guessing he's been feeling like this for a while now.
Idk It seems like he doesn’t go out of his way to set up streams with others. He just waits around for OTK to invite him places. He’s blaming them but he could easily go out himself and ask to film IRL with Extra Emily, Or Nick who have been filming a lot recently. Cinna did a good job of growing out of the OTK orbital role, Same with Mr Arthur. You really just have to go out and make plans and stream with other people.
I only heard of his from camp knut one and i don’t even know if he was a streamer at the time. He is doing good for someone that streamed for like 1-2 years
Imagine moving to LA jesus what a terrible idea for so many reasons
Even in camp knut 2 it was like he wasn´t even there, he just doesn´t take opportunities to take the lead or to engage viewers from other streams to follow him. I clicked his stream a couple of times but it´s always him reacting to something and giving like a serious speech
Wake was born to be a side character, he shines as a side character, his streams are boring af when it's just him. And he makes no effort to plan collabs and streams really. This is why even if he moved to L.A he wont grow much or at all.
They make a lil money now suddenly they have a ego. Mf wake was nothing without miz, n esfand giving him home n now he goes to LA for few days he doesn’t belong in austin
Fr I tried watching his stream, he has no content, if he leaves he will loose the 1k viewers he had from miz and nick. Bro should be happy with what he has. Nick's rule no.1 applies here.
Poki picked him when she came, so he has to do that whole tour. He will be back after a while I'm sure.
i think i have a comment somewhere when people were praising him and i said something to the effect that money hasn't tainted him yet. Whelp guess he got a taste of financial freedom. Also, you are right.. i think you gotta always remain humble to all those that made you
I generally like wake, but I'm pretty sure I've *never* seen him create his own content. He participates or reacts... or talks about creating content. The flakiness of streamers would get annoying, no doubt, but it's going to be like that everywhere and he's gotta bring more to the table as an entertainer if he wants 'more clout' in this space.
I didn't hear anything resembling a plan... if that's the case, I think he's in for a bit of a rude awakening if he thinks LA is the solution to this problem.
I agree. Seems like a nice guy but every time I tune in it's a reality show or a cooking show. Hope he makes the right move and connections
i dont think he is mad at nmp, miz or emi. he always cope himself with guy streamers cant blow up on internet anymore. but when misterarther blow up he shocked. wake should be judging his own content not others dont do anything with him. nmp only pushed arther for a month and he did it. miz pushed wake all gym era for 3 months in this year but wake couldnt do it. this is not his friends fault. he should find his own content style and while doing it he should focus on being others streams too for relevance.
And he is right about Tectone.
He's 100% right on Tectone
Tectone I was honestly fine with until the last few months, you can tell he's fallen off a dark cliff of some sort. He's just worse than ever. Now I can't stand him.
tectone says the same about himself, not a revolutionary take
What are those bad takes Tectone has? I've never really heard anything (or don't remember)
Spiraling this hard because no one from Austin wants to take him on Europe tour on their dime. It's literally just that. Miz flaked on Italiy and Nick ignored his Oktoberfest idea.
"How i'm casted to viewers" Nah bro thats just you, dont blame others.
I used to watch Wake but he mentions Cancer so oftenly that i had to stop watching him, i dont care if his parents died it for it, my mother also did and i know its not something cool to mention so in vane. Kind of out of touch guy. Also he's super SJW over any clip, overeacts a lot.
Also he threw mizkif under the bus, when that shit came out, literally crying to the camera.....
I get that it's a rough position to be in, feeling overshadowed or like a second thought. It's also ironic, since he's probably the most well-adjusted and "normal" person of the circle who'd be more successful under everyday circumstances, which likely leads to his typecasting as the foil to more chaotic characters. That said, while I'm a pretty infrequent viewer, I don't recall seeing him take content initiatives either. Most people who are accused of being orbiters or leeches still do more to innovate than I've seen him do.
Glad I'm not a streamer. Sure, there's money in it, but chasing relevance all the time seems soul draining. He seems like the kind of guy who'd be better off just quitting streaming, getting a full-time job and doing real things with real friends without "content" marketability being a factor. That's not a critique of him as a person. If anything, it's appreciation for a person rather than a character the person plays.
I mean he isn't wrong. I feel like is is someone who can reflect his situation quite well and even tho I don't know what LA people he is talking about, if he feels that this would be a better fit for him he should do it.
Wake needs to watch OCC Series, that's the type of content this matched with
I never seen him as a content creator
true, he is the IFG trainer/ just chatting streamer but that’s about it; if he goes to LA & is able to create more content that might be good for him.
Yeah his streams are incredibly boring, he's fun to watch as a side character on other streams though. I love the end of this video where he shits on people though, especially the EMI part lmao. It's so true
@@GnominiousI think he's actually a good just chatting streamer but he can enter a doom spiral that's a bit too depressing to watch sometimes
I feel you, I sorta sympathize with him, he feels mad left out. I don't blame him tbh.
@@Asdfasdf-k8v I just don’t see how he will create content, Ive never even seen him try doing it in Austin, He streams late night PC stream’s yapping all the time.
thanks god, he is pain to watch
The entitlement is crazy LUL
But he seems like a fit for California 🤣
Sonii wants to move to Austin and Wake wants to move to LA. Should be interesting to say the least.
There are people who just aren't made to be streamers. Wake is not fun or entertaining to watch ngl
this one might go viral
Tbh I don't think he fits the vibe and if he feels that he's getting hints, then he probably is.
No clip chimping what is the actual full context about everything
I think wake is such a good person it's sad to see him left out
i like him top.. but he does it to himself. Also, like he says he's kinda typecasted himself into the good guy sidekick. I can't even name one piece of content he's done aside from camp knut and desktop streams though. Like do some things man
I don't know the full context myself tbh. But I wonder if it's something to do with how much katchii has blown up.
Like wake was on nick's stream near enough everyday training nick before camp knut 2 started. And pretty much no growth.
Whereas Katchii didn't even exist before top streamer and rn she's got 18k viewers with Nick.
@@robbieweld7928 wake has absolutely had growth since collabing with nick in july his viewership now has doubled since june. So it cant be that
@@robbieweld7928 Wake never blew up, cause he's boring as fuck. He's basically Knut, with ZERO personality. We already got Knut and he's great, funny as hell. We don't need the homeless man's version of Knut, as well.
LA changed him.
100% of what he’s saying is valid, but I think he’s just not cut out for this industry if he’s this in his feelings about it.
Never would've thought wake would become one of my most disliked people in the Austin circle but here we are, he somehow did it in just a few (recent) streams.
5:00 the rp pod?
Imagine defending terorist apologists.
Wakewilder
I’ve never liked wake ngl
5:53 I agree Wake
Probably should say these things directly to those people, instead of in public when they aren't around
He is taking the mayah route once he has leached enough he leaves and makes it look like nobody helped him
*cough* and emi *cough*
@@umop3plsdn at least emi had a following before miz 2k viewers isnt so bad
Emi left mizs house cause mizs house got leaked and multiple stalkers were showing up she had to get multiple restraining orders on them and had to move period. Everyone in that house is moving emi was just the first to do it
@@umop3plsdn What? Emi just moved into a different house she was literally on his stream just a couple days ago while maya denies his entire existence and everytime she is asked how she started streaming she basically prints the narrative of her doing it on her own lol
@@josem7927 she was at 1,9k viewers one month, while streaming for 7 years before Miz. Hardstuck at 1k viewers for 7 years is not great as a titty streamer -> uwu e-girl, I wouldnt really call that a following.
Wake being Mikefrompa 2.0 arc incoming
I 1000% agree on the tectone take. Like bruh, it doesn't even need explaining but I'm glad SOMEBODY said what we were all thinking LMAO.
Wake needs to find his "lane". He doesn't like to do what Miz and NMPLOL does, he isn't a heavy gamer, he isn't a reaction andy... Maybe he could move towards full time commentary like Hasan....
doesnt really seem like wake really likes any of his friends and has very low self esteem. he views himself from the eyes of others but the origin of his thoughts are coming from himself
Ive heard more LA streamers talk highly of wake then Austin guys. Its not a bad discussion for him, I think you guys are too Austin pilled.
La streamers talk highly of anyone they interact with because they just lie. Don’t think a single la streamer has ever watched his stream outside like Caroline.
Anyone can talk but actions are different and if he doesn’t like it it’s okay to move on but I don’t think he will enjoy living in LA it’s fun to visit but not to live there
@@Lambsbecomeg0dsbro you’re so dumb lol Austin streamers are yeah La people are fake af , guarantee you that the people saying that shit are the most fake of them all.
Him, Extraemily, and now ItsKatchi all don't have communities of their own. Each one of them are nothing without being around a bigger streamer to carry their content.
ExtraEmily is not like the other two. She has a 4k to 6k core community that shows up even when she's doing ads and when she's streaming at the same time as Miz, Nmp or Emiru.
@@JohnL-t2g I don't think she is satisfied with those numbers though.
@@Guandao56ok and?
Nah you are faul for putting emily into that man, wether you like her content or not she is doing her own thing for years.
Can't really compare any of them. Emily's been doing good content for years and is one of the top streamers on the platform. Katchii has barely started but already pulls insane numbers, pretty sure already 2-3k are gonna watch her above anyone else. Both have been incredibly effective in converting exposure into regular viewers. Wake has had a shameless amount of exposure but absolutely zero content. Very different case.
Wake is going to regret this.
I think he might end up hating it but Wake could get a lot of clout collaborating with Zoo Culture
I told y'all wake was worse than tectone dude is the worst
No one is worse than tectone.
@@chrissyisediting369literally no one.
1 - "i told y'all" - who tf are you? seriously who even are you and who tf are you to tell us that as if anybody that will ever read that comment has ever seen you before let alone knows you let alone gives a fuck about what you say?
2 - "wake was worse than tectone" - and before this, which is completely different for wake to normally do, and is completely out of character, what was it that made him worse than tectone that you also felt so strongly about telling everyone that he is and to assume people would, again, give any amount of fucks about what YOU have to say, let alone knows you, and, thats right, let alone has ever seen you before....
3 - "dude is the worst" - how is he the worst exactly? its literally just this vid that came out of nowhere besides maybe 100 or so dedicated wake stream viewers who might've seen him like this across how many streams? more than this 1 stream that this all came from? its the same shirt in every cut
4 - how tf did this get 22 comment likes. feels like people who newly dislike wake after watching this disappointing clip comp of what is likely 1 stream, and now they're just upvoting all wake hate/naysay
5 - learn to phrase your shit better next time. nobody knows you or cares bro, out with the shit you say and gtfo
The fact that he hasnt been invited as a cast of OTK is beyond me. Wakes too good for the Austin crew.. sad to say
he is just an otk orbiter, not even entertaining. Even Russle would be a better fit for otk.
Love the updates as always INKI! Big love, all love, stay up champ! Love your content and picks for uploads. BA-ZED
Him being in esfands house makes this 100x better
for real? LOL