Well it's matter coz you start doin 2 hits to ko or 1 hit ko early, this increase your exp/per hr and make you use less pots. Plus Lukless gain more INT from Maple Warrior and more MP when lvl.
oh i see your point.. however i come from MSEA, where %pots arent really that cheap.. that aside, Dark Knights have beholder which can help in pot costs.. healing once every few seconds.. also, to maintain berserk, they just eat pots which do not add that much HP, so i still think bishops lose more. On the contrary, Archmages have elementampli + elemental equips to help improve the damages of their AoEs. so.. ;)cheers
When maxed, it is because it is 45 seconds and you can spam genesis. In reality it saves you about 30k-40k mp if you can genesis 10 times during the infinite.
I'll just throw a few stats into this conversation. Levelling from 148 to 149 costed me 5 mil in pots, but I had HB. My Gen is lv 15. This cost is less for lukless Bishops and for those with lower level Gen. Overall levelling is pretty cheap. Bishops spend 20 fewer hours to level up in 19x than most other classes. This is while on double exp. I won't say whether that levelling speed is overpowered or not, but there's the data. You judge.
heh whoever said rush is to be spammed? rush is to gather the monsts to a side.. hello. and the aoes damage remain stagnant for a loong time. so ur training speed at 15x and 19x will be of no diff unless u get gene30 or sth liddat.
Not really, When fun is concerned, Bishops are more fun because they can play around with their party by not healing them/Not hsing and ticking them off. Bishops have better damage at Skeles than AMs and they have good damage overall on other monsters. -Kukilooter 13x NL
I was thinking if it would be better to go either Bishop or I/L. Idk i think i want to go bishop because i could boss and i would be more wanted but I/L is pretty good. it would be Lukless too btw. Help please?
I respect ur opinion but i never sit to get exp, i always splitted maps to kill and take exp, or did some vik partys when i was laggy and couldn't go DTs.
3times more/minute is relative to just holding genesis key down. however, in regular training, you do not just hold the gene key down! after the monster is dead you wont continue spamming right..? then again, for the darkknights you will have to look at a player's control of his own character. they have rush to ensure no backstabs take place right? justmypov, i've nvr trained a dk b4 =p bishops to effectively train do not walk around the entire map picking mesos.. so i still disagree :D
what i tink is bishop cant even hit 99.999k and now genesis bk30 is like 700m in msea not so many people can afford it. if u were to say spam thing i tink bs good cos they have hs more exp den mages but if u were to keep heal u wll find it boring
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Gratz Rod
grats on 200
Well it's matter coz you start doin 2 hits to ko or 1 hit ko early, this increase your exp/per hr and make you use less pots.
Plus Lukless gain more INT from Maple Warrior and more MP when lvl.
oh i see your point.. however i come from MSEA, where %pots arent really that cheap.. that aside,
Dark Knights have beholder which can help in pot costs.. healing once every few seconds.. also, to maintain berserk, they just eat pots which do not add that much HP, so i still think bishops lose more.
On the contrary, Archmages have elementampli + elemental equips to help improve the damages of their AoEs.
so.. ;)cheers
When maxed, it is because it is 45 seconds and you can spam genesis. In reality it saves you about 30k-40k mp if you can genesis 10 times during the infinite.
I'll just throw a few stats into this conversation. Levelling from 148 to 149 costed me 5 mil in pots, but I had HB. My Gen is lv 15. This cost is less for lukless Bishops and for those with lower level Gen. Overall levelling is pretty cheap.
Bishops spend 20 fewer hours to level up in 19x than most other classes. This is while on double exp. I won't say whether that levelling speed is overpowered or not, but there's the data. You judge.
totally love ur music@.@
Level 01: MP - 2100 / Attack Power 430 / 60% Mastery
Level 10: MP - 3000 / Attack Power 520 / 60% Mastery
Level 20: MP - 4000 / Attack Power 620 / 60% Mastery
Level 30: MP - 3500 / Attack Power 670 / 60% Mastery
nice vid rod
I wish i could scroll a helm like that T_T but rlly nice zhelm
At that lvl, i had like around 1125 magic with maple warrior and w/o magic attack pot.
At lvl 160 it was 12XX ish.
Im lvl 200 now and i kinda quited, but if i recall well its was more than 14xx at lvl 200 for sure.
normally i saw the bishop genesis damage is 20k+ but this 1 is 60k+
Awsome vid but what are the jobs for making a bishop?(I know mage and after cleric but after???)
You are prolly using an Elemental Wand or a newer equip that at this time (April 2008) we didnt had like necklaces, eye equips or even pots.
Dang dude, i started watching ur vids when u put the lvl 120 up. Its kinda sad to see u quit..
that was awsm , want moar!!!
heh whoever said rush is to be spammed? rush is to gather the monsts to a side.. hello. and the aoes damage remain stagnant for a loong time. so ur training speed at 15x and 19x will be of no diff unless u get gene30 or sth liddat.
well, some. in the end it just boils down to the equipment and the level right.?
Not really,
When fun is concerned, Bishops are more fun because they can play around with their party by not healing them/Not hsing and ticking them off.
Bishops have better damage at Skeles than AMs and they have good damage overall on other monsters.
-Kukilooter 13x NL
It's coz my Genesis was lvl 10 in that time.
I was thinking if it would be better to go either Bishop or I/L. Idk i think i want to go bishop because i could boss and i would be more wanted but I/L is pretty good. it would be Lukless too btw. Help please?
I respect ur opinion but i never sit to get exp, i always splitted maps to kill and take exp, or did some vik partys when i was laggy and couldn't go DTs.
Can you please tell me your equips at that time? :P i'm going to make a lukless bishop too lol
being lukless doesnt really change alot if ur a mage. only like 10k more damage
Songs:
Immediate Music - Liberty Shield
Immediate Music - Imperativa
Dont max holy arrow, max the rest.
so how does upgrading ur 4th job skills work
Menu > System Option > Monster Info
o_O
mind i ask what wep your useing? oh you do? ok nvm then...
He got lvl10 Genesis...........
really nice damage at level 10 gen doing 66k on skele.. at level 142.. i only do 60k and with gen 20 ;/
How much exp did you make duo 2hko skeles with/without 2x exp ?
the Dmg like this is cuz he has lvl 10 Gene
I kinda quit, i dont have many free time left to play now =/
No need to max bahamut early
How lucky are we these days that we don't need to get skill book for genesis and bahamut And only for angle ray :)
3times more/minute is relative to just holding genesis key down. however, in regular training, you do not just hold the gene key down! after the monster is dead you wont continue spamming right..? then again, for the darkknights you will have to look at a player's control of his own character. they have rush to ensure no backstabs take place right? justmypov, i've nvr trained a dk b4 =p bishops to effectively train do not walk around the entire map picking mesos.. so i still disagree
:D
really nice damage at level 10 gen doing 66k on skele is great.. im at level 142.. i only do 60k and with gen 20 ;/ but im low luk
lol the only book bishops need now is angel ray
@darthmaulbr diff after bigbang
isit luk 65 high ? ==
Hey dude, do u still play? Or did u quit after 200?
Why do you only have level10 genesis...?
1000% legit .. always
Eh do brasil :D
to em broa tb soh q sou nbzin lvl 40 UEhoUAHE
nice u lvl 200 lol (right now)
this guy had 10 genesis so shut up i noticed my bishop hit that already too but yea
you sure a genesis-using-bishop wont have meso problems? >.0 haha.
what i tink is bishop cant even hit 99.999k and now genesis bk30 is like 700m in msea not so many people can afford it. if u were to say spam thing i tink bs good cos they have hs more exp den mages but if u were to keep heal u wll find it boring
lol you can make profit just keep penny pinching there
TRAIN ME PL0X lol
littledudez is my name XD
Lol if you guys Complain bout his dmg.
lets see you in the game with 10 genesis.
Dont complain, you probbaly do the lower dmg -.-
your dmg kinda low and im not lukless and my base luk is 100 and im the same level as you .. and i do more dmg then you
noob damage
It's coz my Genesis was lvl 10 in that time.