China asked to have foreign app to setup server in China, google and Facebook refused and left. But TikTok setup separate server with Oracle to meet US requirement.
they're have their own version. however this will result in complete disconnection to usa culture meaning trillions in losses for current usa companies with access to the chinese market.
Yes. China didn’t claim that RUclips and Google are threats to their national security. Countries can ban whatever they want, but they should be honest about the reason.
China would not ban any non-Chinese apps in return, because all those apps have been banned in China long time ago. Instead, it would harass Taiwan and Philippines in revenge.
I like your house, you must sell it to me, otherwise you won't want to go out. This kind of metaphor is accurate. In addition, the US government is forcing a Chinese company to sell assets in the US.
Their banning tiktok because of the "national security law" , but without any proof 😂 , China does have their own reasons to ban US apps. First Huawei, then Tiktok, you probably would'nt be surprised when US bans BYD
fair and square , because RUclips is also banned in China since 2009. And no one says anything about it. Chinese can buy properties in foreign countries, but foreigners are not allowed to buy properties in China.
RUclips refuses to store Chinese data inside China. That is why. TikTok stores all data inside the USA, guarded by US governmental agents on US soil. Duh!
Because it (amongst others) causes the telephone zombie disease. You can identify infected people by the mushrooms growing out of their ears as well as their oblivious traffic participation.
For china to talk about any compettion is hilarious they have state owned car companies, realestate, and social media try to find insta or twitter in china goodluck.
Really? Now, google, facebook, etc refuse to store data in China. This is why China rejected them. In comparison, TikTok places all American data inside the US. Any transmission out of the US has to go through US border and/or internet hub.
All the US companies require placing Chinese customer data inside the US. That was why they were banned in China. TikTok places all US customer data inside the US. Duh!
@@Okskoketso-io3bx why does China control Google? and Youtbue? and Facebook? Why is it when another country does exactly what China is doing, suddenly China views it as a problem. Yet China can see no issue with them doing it. Are we all suppose to just play ignorant to the double standard?
@@GraniteInTheFace actually the ex CEO of Activision/Blizzard "Bobby" is expected to be the lead buyer, with a group of investors. If they do decide to sell to an American owned operation, rather than a China owned one.
@@karankrishnakanthDid he tell you that himself? It's actually incorrect to say it was decided upon overnight, as it was banned first in 2019, then repealed, before being banned again in 2020 (along with 59 other Chinese apps)
@@jermaingermaine1973 Let me explain the 100 times because your trusted media never tell: China bans some US social media because they place Chinese data inside US. In comparison, TikTok exclusively place data inside the US, guarded by US governmental agents.
The US isn’t even trying to outright ban TikTok. It’s simply trying to force the Chinese company (ByteDance) that owns the US-based branch of TikTok it to sell it to a Western or Western-friendly buyer. That’s called “forced divestiture” in legal terms. The ban is simply being used to force ByteDance to choose between compliance, or being excluded from the US market. -timonsolus
Go anywhere in the US, it's not just teenagers but everyone is constantly looking at the smart phones. Ban smart phones? The iphone is designed to be addicting.
Then ban it with an honest reason, not made up one like “ national security”. Coming up a false accusation, that’s manipulation. And ban all the SM, not just tik tok. Otherwise it’s discrimination
Hearing the CCP complain about “fair competition” makes me cackle. 😂 Also there are some very obvious CCP bots in this comment section. PS: the last guest has to be on bytedance’s payroll.. it visibly pained him to spew some of that baseless nonsense.
😂Just to remind you Google Facebook quit Chinese market themselves because they don't want to follow Chinese media law which applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows American laws but still get banned That is the difference. Come on is that hard to admit the US government simply wants to own TikTok because it is successful. Same story happens again and again.
When the US arrested the head of Alstom, France also cried out that it was unfair. When the US tapped the German Chancellor's bedside phone, German also cried out that it was disheartening. Then every thing still goes well in those countries.😊 There is no fairness or unfairness in this world, it's just a matter of enduring or fighting back. From a business perspective, Tiktok would rather go bankrupt in the United States than be split up by American companies. Because that would mean that Tiktok would be sold at a low price besides its technology and all overseas markets would be stolen by American companies. There are too many examples of the United States completely destroying foreign companies and markets after one or two years of mergers.
There are many benefits to banning TikTok. But yes TikTok would likely not sell. 170 Millions of americans will get mad at their govt. 6 million business on Tik Tok. Many of these might actually vote based on TikTok's ban.
It is highly likely that Tiktok will leave the United States or go bankrupt in the United States. Because the United States' goal is to swallow Tiktok and occupy its global share. Security is just the fig leaf of US rogue trick. Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Mnuchin said on CNBC on Thursday: "I think TikTok should be sold. This is a good business, and I will form a group to acquire TikTok."
China is complaining like they would allow an American app linked to the NSA to be used in China. That is the equivalent of Tik Tok being used in the US.
When Elon Musk took over Twitter, he found out that content moderators at Twitter and Facebook (as well as most US social media sites) were staffed by ex FBI/CIA/NSA folks. The US intel agencies have more censors (per capita) than China has. The issue is not is it fair to China the issue US neocons want complete control of the US internet firewall.
As required by the US government, the Chinese government requires servers to be placed in China and comply with Chinese laws. Can you do it? TikTok did it.
@@TuhunluunBionoid there is no such thing as a totally private company in China, the government including their intelligence services have access to everything if they want. So the analogy is pretty accurate.
As a Chinese, I say this is absolutely a legitimate concern. If we acknowledge that ccp has full access to data collected by Wechat, Taobao, Alipay or any other apps in China, why would we assume that this is not happening to Tiktok?
Isnt You Tube and other US social networks being used to monitor other countries citizens that use American platforms?By that logic other countries should also start banning US apps.
Chinese high-tech companies, including TikTok's owner ByteDance, are extensions of the Chinese government. - How do I know this? Chinese "national security" laws say so!
Kinda like American National Security laws do the same thing with our companies.. If the US asks for your data from Facebook or any other US company they have to give it to the Govt
Also state controlled "free" private US platforms apply autocensorship on the comments and contents. Not only violating things but also politics that US will not like. Google is not more innocent then tiktok. They use and sell our userdatas by force. Since they are dominant and have no serious opponent in the market, they find themself right to manipulate User datas and ban the voices. Tiktok is not a compare to google but a rising opponent. That theats American data collecting companies
Those companies refuse to store their data in china, so they withdraw from china market, if they comply, they can operate in china. However Tiktok follow the US request, so why now want to ban it
😂Just to remind you Google Facebook quit Chinese market themselves because they don't want to follow Chinese media law which applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows American laws but still get banned That is the difference. Come on is that hard to admit the US government simply wants to own TikTok because it is successful. Same story happens again and again.
@@zacksmith5963 I will take your comments seriously when China starts prosecuting and banning illegal counterfeiters. Now put your made in China LV bag away 😂
China has a much higher standard for apps. You can critisize them as much as you want concerning censorship - but they do also care for the health of their own people.
Why stop there? Maybe EU should also consider banning Facebook or RUclips to give local social media a great opportunity to grow. After all, EU has created zero app that’s influential world wide due to the US and Chinese competition for years now.
America doesn’t want this a government acting outside of the will. The people do US citizenship vote. The fact that they won’t let us means I feed him a speech is a debt in the US.
Smart Chinese people defined the mobile Internet era, and tiktok wrote history. Chinese people are proud of this. You have to admit, this is the glory of those Chinese. It doesn't matter who is destroying this glory. Just like the dark history of the slave trade cannot destroy the glory of the heroes of that era.
Competitive advantage from other countries. Hmm, I'm still trying to find ways as a Mexican American to set a shop in Aliexpress, Alibaba, or Temu. They don't let you as a foreigner.
The practice of China government is quite different from USA. China: There are the internet regulations that all internet Apps should follow, no matter the ownership of App. If not , blocked technically by its Great Firewall. USA : no regulations Tiktok failed to follow so far. But Tiktok is owned by China company , it has to be sold to a US friendly company , otherwise , it is banned. The same bill can be used to ban websites/Apps of any countries that US does not like , such as Middle East /Arabs media, Or Africa Media. Even worse, it can be used to ban Twitter (X) as US president can claim X is controlled by foreign enemy.
It is said that China refused Google but accepted Apple. The reason is the location of data server. Google didn’t allow to set data servers in China for chinese datas. However, TikTok have data server in US and supervised by the third party.
Sharing the data for what purpose? China is too busy managing its 1.4 billion people to have an interest in what dance you like to do on tik tok. The threat is over blown and mostly just projecting.
This has more to do about the US not being able to compete against Chinese products in the US than "national security". Hiawei was banned in the US for "national security" without any proof, Chinese electric cars are being targeted for "national security" as well.
Telling tik tok to cut ties with China is the same like asking google to cut ties with the US 😂.Americans use Tik Tok to make a living just imagine how many Americans will lose their busines if the US government bans Tik Tok.
Seriously ban it. It is one of the worst, then ban the hole format of shorts. I have no problem with reddit or instagram but these shorts are horrible for childrean and people with ADHD. They are the internet in its most addictive form and clearly target childrean/teenagers
They should also ban Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, X/Twitter, RUclips and other Google apps, all Apple apps, Android, iOS/macOS, Windows, etc... since the US government have access to all their user data and can use it with bad intentions, like Edward Snowden revealed some time ago.
They should also ban Facebook and RUclips too. Everyone of them should just come up a new version of these app for themselves. After all, why should any country trust any product from other countries? Everyone can be an enemy! 😊
It’s not like Mexico, Japan or South Korean or Germany or France has never been screwed by US in the past. Japanese companies will tell you all about it! Haha! Everyone should take the matter into their own hands, ban all the foreign stuff, they all suspicious!
@@TuhunluunBionoid Facebook and RUclips are American companies. Tiktok is Chinese company. We don't trust Chinese companies under the control of CCP. It's totally fair here.
Apples and oranges. The U.S. government doesn't own stake in any social media companies and don't really care about the data from international users. American businesses might care to better to sell their products. This is about a hostile foreign government having access to the minds and data of Americans.
The issue are two ways, it's not just the availability of the company, but also the availability of the users. Every country should be monitoring within their own country, so it's one thing US want to ban a foreign apps like TikTok, which is within their right to do that, it's another thing a foreign user sign up on a local platform. It's like a non-Chinese sign up for Douyin (Chinese version of Tiktok) and then complaint about Douyin monitoring their usage. Well, it's within your right not to use that platform.....
Since US is a more mature and democratic country than India? What india did is just to tell the world that any investment in India is risky and up to the government’s mood. I believe most investors don’t like the sound of that.
@@TuhunluunBionoid india banned tiktok after consultations and credible evidence of data leak and theft. It just shows that indians are proactive to act in their national interests while US eventually follows the same model after a lot of lazy delays. US is lazy asf
My understanding of China app rules are to have data store local, regulated with anti-ccp content. Apple , ms are ok with it so they can open shop, google fb say no, then no license.
Facebook is a specific case, they complied with the Chinese law, but China had various terrorist attacks in last decade that were organized in Facebook, and the company refused to cooperate with the Chinese government antiterrorist measures.
How dare they complaining about unfairness when they ban Facebook, google , eBay , Amazon and many many others and not only that they copied and made their own version .. get out of here with the unfair argument
None of them is banned. Amazon and eBay don’t do well in Chinese market so gave up themselves. Facebook and google didnt want to comply with Chinese law, so they also decide to exit China. Tik tok does well and has complies to US laws but still got singled out. There are huge differences!
@@TuhunluunBionoid you can say whatever you want but China copied all of them .. TikTok is pretty much the only Chinese platform and they have to go..!
Are you serious? China saying that banning TikTok is UNFAIR when China literally bans ALL FOREIGN APPS???!! Joke of the century!!!
Exactly! unfair LoL. China owns and control TikTok or else it wouldn't be outragged by US ban.
It's unfair TikTok wasn't banned years ago
Ikr, zero surprise here at their reaction
Now you know what the Philippines is dealing with inside their Exclusuve Economic Zone/West Philippine Sea.
China asked to have foreign app to setup server in China, google and Facebook refused and left. But TikTok setup separate server with Oracle to meet US requirement.
So not allowing RUclips and Google doing business in China is fair?
Exactly
yes they have their own versions.
now, however, ALL programs foreign to China will be OUT.
rip trillions in USA profit.
Also Facebook, Instagram, whatsapp, Wikipedia and Reddit
they're have their own version.
however this will result in complete disconnection to usa culture meaning trillions in losses for current usa companies with access to the chinese market.
Yes. China didn’t claim that RUclips and Google are threats to their national security. Countries can ban whatever they want, but they should be honest about the reason.
China would not ban any non-Chinese apps in return, because all those apps have been banned in China long time ago. Instead, it would harass Taiwan and Philippines in revenge.
or release corona 2.0
you mean US is becoming China?
Wt kind of logic is it many countries banned in Asia already
啊？？？我不用苹果Office的么？你是坏还是蠢？
@fufu9352 what is "Apple Office"
China 🇨🇳 complained about the US TikTok bill
is like a robber protesting a homeowner for installing locks on his doors. LOL
@umbrellastudio7481lol. What's that supposed to mean? Xinnie Ping is such a soft leader that he'll nuke before Putin does? That's rather pathetic.
What's the difference between lastchang account you have here and the verylastchang account you in the scmp comment section? Why two separate ones?
@umbrellastudio7481 WTF does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
I like your house, you must sell it to me, otherwise you won't want to go out. This kind of metaphor is accurate. In addition, the US government is forcing a Chinese company to sell assets in the US.
you mean like Israel protesting Falastin trying to reclaim their own land?
Lol china complaining on whats fair or.not. bahahahahhaah
@umbrellastudio7481 May I say Christein hate?
Exactly.. the hypocrisy of CCP
Their banning tiktok because of the "national security law" , but without any proof 😂 , China does have their own reasons to ban US apps. First Huawei, then Tiktok, you probably would'nt be surprised when US bans BYD
@umbrellastudio7481 Well if they're so frustrated they should just ban US social media as revenge... oh... wait...
@umbrellastudio7481 it's right to complain dosnt make it's complaint any less hypocritical or laugh inducing.
fair and square , because RUclips is also banned in China since 2009.
And no one says anything about it.
Chinese can buy properties in foreign countries, but foreigners are not allowed to buy properties in China.
Better, Tiktok is actually banned in China too.
It's not just RUclips, Google, Facebook, Insta, X, Wikipedia, and all the major news sites plus 10000s of other apps are all banned in China
@@francoislechanceux5818 Tiktok stores data exclusively inside the US, that is why they are banned in China.
RUclips refuses to store Chinese data inside China. That is why. TikTok stores all data inside the USA, guarded by US governmental agents on US soil. Duh!
China is smart is my conclusion
The Chinese Government is practically proving the point here. They complaining about it. If there is no link why do they complain?
That's what I have in mind.
Because US is forcing a Chinese company to sell its US branch to a US company, which is abuse of power from American side.
Seriously? Imagine if Germany said they'll ban Ford cars unless Ford sells itself to a non US country
@@HTSGOSU yeah a car and social media are the same thing.🥴
LOL. What?
Tiktok should be banned worldwide 😐😐😐
You should go to see Jesues today now.
Why
Too much wickedness from early age. Destroyed generations. @@robertduluth8994
@@robertduluth8994 He is from India! That's why. BTW, his real color is a lot darker than that picture.
Because it (amongst others) causes the telephone zombie disease. You can identify infected people by the mushrooms growing out of their ears as well as their oblivious traffic participation.
For china to talk about any compettion is hilarious they have state owned car companies, realestate, and social media try to find insta or twitter in china goodluck.
TikTok is banned in China…
@@jimsquire-chestnuts8381 No is different
Really? Now, google, facebook, etc refuse to store data in China. This is why China rejected them. In comparison, TikTok places all American data inside the US. Any transmission out of the US has to go through US border and/or internet hub.
All the US companies require placing Chinese customer data inside the US. That was why they were banned in China. TikTok places all US customer data inside the US. Duh!
Can inst and twitter store data in China, not the US? this is my question to you.
Tiktok should be banned.
Why?
they are not banning tiktok, they are banning Americans from using tiktok. You are getting banned lol
No chance they sell to fox news
@@Okskoketso-io3bx why does China control Google? and Youtbue? and Facebook?
Why is it when another country does exactly what China is doing, suddenly China views it as a problem. Yet China can see no issue with them doing it.
Are we all suppose to just play ignorant to the double standard?
@@GraniteInTheFace actually the ex CEO of Activision/Blizzard "Bobby" is expected to be the lead buyer, with a group of investors.
If they do decide to sell to an American owned operation, rather than a China owned one.
US should have reciprocated China’s policy on US social media apps long ago
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
India banned it overnight 😂
TikTok was released in 2015 and India banned it in 2020
@@mathildehansen4I think the OP means the process of banning it was overnight
@@mathildehansen4he meant the decision to ban them was overnight
@@karankrishnakanthDid he tell you that himself? It's actually incorrect to say it was decided upon overnight, as it was banned first in 2019, then repealed, before being banned again in 2020 (along with 59 other Chinese apps)
@@mathildehansen4 I take it back u r right 👍
Google, RUclips, X, Facebook, WhatsApp, ban, ban, ban! What’s the fuss just banning one TikTok?
Exactly. Why can China ban US social media companies but the US can't?
@@jermaingermaine1973 Let me explain the 100 times because your trusted media never tell: China bans some US social media because they place Chinese data inside US. In comparison, TikTok exclusively place data inside the US, guarded by US governmental agents.
China banned them because they store Chinese data in the USA. TikTok however stores data in the USA exclusively.
Their reasons are not the same, US can ban everything without any proof if they consider a national security threat.
@@jermaingermaine1973all social medias should be banned everywhere in the world
Congratulations to the USA for the decision.
Nothing has been decided
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
Says a Wu+Mao located in China.
The US isn’t even trying to outright ban TikTok. It’s simply trying to force the Chinese company (ByteDance) that owns the US-based branch of TikTok it to sell it to a Western or Western-friendly buyer. That’s called “forced divestiture” in legal terms. The ban is simply being used to force ByteDance to choose between compliance, or being excluded from the US market.
-timonsolus
so kind US govment
@@gangwang9474 So what's the difference??? Forcing someone to sell their own property...
When I see how addicted the teenagers and their friends in my family are to TikTok's manipulative algorithm, I support banning the app.
I heard that my mother is 82 and she is always sending me videos I told her please stop there must be something there
so you also support banning Instagram, RUclips, etc ?
@@gpl-o3iNein. Just the tok.
Go anywhere in the US, it's not just teenagers but everyone is constantly looking at the smart phones. Ban smart phones? The iphone is designed to be addicting.
Then ban it with an honest reason, not made up one like “ national security”. Coming up a false accusation, that’s manipulation. And ban all the SM, not just tik tok. Otherwise it’s discrimination
No it's not fair, the world isn't fair especially with you in it Xi.
Hearing the CCP complain about “fair competition” makes me cackle. 😂 Also there are some very obvious CCP bots in this comment section. PS: the last guest has to be on bytedance’s payroll.. it visibly pained him to spew some of that baseless nonsense.
😂Just to remind you Google Facebook quit
Chinese market themselves because they
don't want to follow Chinese media law which
applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows
American laws but still get banned That is the
difference.
Come on is that hard to admit the US
government simply wants to own TikTok because
it is successful. Same story happens again and
again.
When the US arrested the head of Alstom, France also cried out that it was unfair. When the US tapped the German Chancellor's bedside phone, German also cried out that it was disheartening. Then every thing still goes well in those countries.😊 There is no fairness or unfairness in this world, it's just a matter of enduring or fighting back.
From a business perspective, Tiktok would rather go bankrupt in the United States than be split up by American companies. Because that would mean that Tiktok would be sold at a low price besides its technology and all overseas markets would be stolen by American companies. There are too many examples of the United States completely destroying foreign companies and markets after one or two years of mergers.
sounds like you are crying chinas crocodile tears for them
@@delvelingMaybe in fact you are that crocodile caught in America?😂
There are many benefits to banning TikTok. But yes TikTok would likely not sell. 170 Millions of americans will get mad at their govt. 6 million business on Tik Tok. Many of these might actually vote based on TikTok's ban.
It is highly likely that Tiktok will leave the United States or go bankrupt in the United States. Because the United States' goal is to swallow Tiktok and occupy its global share. Security is just the fig leaf of US rogue trick.
Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Mnuchin said on CNBC on Thursday: "I think TikTok should be sold. This is a good business, and I will form a group to acquire TikTok."
your brain and opinion is clearest
I seriously detest this app. How can people be so dumb. I don't get it.
The US is like a street gangster who demand a very successful street hawker to sell the stall to him.
The world's Biggest Gangster!
The fact that the Chinese foreign ministry is the loudest complainant tells me everything I need to know.
What? That they loose the tool to collect data they can manipulate?
What? That they loose the tool to collect data they can manipulate?
What? That they loose the tool to collect data they can manipulate
This is third post not showing up. The sign of the CCP control.
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
China is complaining like they would allow an American app linked to the NSA to be used in China. That is the equivalent of Tik Tok being used in the US.
It's data collection tool. People use data to manipulate and control other people.
When Elon Musk took over Twitter, he found out that content moderators at Twitter and Facebook (as well as most US social media sites) were staffed by ex FBI/CIA/NSA folks. The US intel agencies have more censors (per capita) than China has. The issue is not is it fair to China the issue US neocons want complete control of the US internet firewall.
As required by the US government, the Chinese government requires servers to be placed in China and comply with Chinese laws. Can you do it? TikTok did it.
Tik tok is private company, has nothing to do with gov entity, the NSA analogy doesn’t apply
@@TuhunluunBionoid there is no such thing as a totally private company in China, the government including their intelligence services have access to everything if they want. So the analogy is pretty accurate.
As a Chinese, I say this is absolutely a legitimate concern. If we acknowledge that ccp has full access to data collected by Wechat, Taobao, Alipay or any other apps in China, why would we assume that this is not happening to Tiktok?
Isnt You Tube and other US social networks being used to monitor other countries citizens that use American platforms?By that logic other countries should also start banning US apps.
Yes. Ed Snowden was punished for bringing it to light.
It is easier for US to invade middle-east than ban Tik-tok.😂
hahha china saying unfair, Joke of the mileniium
The history of the United States is 1000 years?
Germany is a total vssal state to the US.
Chinese high-tech companies, including TikTok's owner ByteDance, are extensions of the Chinese government.
- How do I know this? Chinese "national security" laws say so!
Kinda like American National Security laws do the same thing with our companies.. If the US asks for your data from Facebook or any other US company they have to give it to the Govt
Also state controlled "free" private US platforms apply autocensorship on the comments and contents. Not only violating things but also politics that US will not like. Google is not more innocent then tiktok. They use and sell our userdatas by force. Since they are dominant and have no serious opponent in the market, they find themself right to manipulate User datas and ban the voices. Tiktok is not a compare to google but a rising opponent. That theats American data collecting companies
You don't get it.
Show us where this 'law' is. None of you can even read or speak the language and apparently you've scoured through the law books in China.
Bye TikTok !!!! hate this app and what it does to the new generation
If it is unfair then let tiktok in also china.
Tiktok should be banned all over the world.
Some of These ppl need to get a real job 😂
😂 @ China
Banning foreign social media apps to the Great Firewall.
Ban public servants from having Apple smartphones.
Etc.
I pray that this ban goes through
already banned in your Hindu nations.
So what about China banned twitter, You tube, Google, Facebook and even TikTok highly censored in China?
i feel so bad for the guy with a penthouse...
Well, it's a mouse trap. Reward a few mice to get the rest of mice inside the trap. Clever.
I swear 😮
China bans Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp, Netflix, Google etc in China. So, nothing wrong with US banning TikTok in the US
Quit yakking, Uncle Sam. Go ahead and make my day!
Those companies refuse to store their data in china, so they withdraw from china market, if they comply, they can operate in china. However Tiktok follow the US request, so why now want to ban it
😂Just to remind you Google Facebook quit
Chinese market themselves because they
don't want to follow Chinese media law which
applies to all businesses in China. Tiktok follows
American laws but still get banned That is the
difference.
Come on is that hard to admit the US
government simply wants to own TikTok because
it is successful. Same story happens again and
again.
@@zacksmith5963 I will take your comments seriously when China starts prosecuting and banning illegal counterfeiters. Now put your made in China LV bag away 😂
If only US imposed the same scrutiny to other social media sites, it would not be such a controversy.
Can't even use TikTok in China
Bit ignorant. How about you search for what TiKTok is called in China
@@chubetwatNope. It's absolutely 2 different apps. Doyin and tiktok are not the same. Tiktok is banned in China.
TikTok stores data exclusively inside the USA, that is why it is banned in China.
@@francoislechanceux5818because TikTok data base and server is in the US
China has a much higher standard for apps. You can critisize them as much as you want concerning censorship - but they do also care for the health of their own people.
EU needs also to impose TikTok ban !!!
Who says?
Why stop there? Maybe EU should also consider banning Facebook or RUclips to give local social media a great opportunity to grow. After all, EU has created zero app that’s influential world wide due to the US and Chinese competition for years now.
America doesn’t want this a government acting outside of the will. The people do US citizenship vote. The fact that they won’t let us means I feed him a speech is a debt in the US.
When western countries are aftaid of banning TikTok but India is the first to ban this app and more than 120 Chinese App
We should learn from the most democratic and free Afghanistan to ban TikTok.
Please don’t compare india to western countries, its democracy is a joke of the world.
Bravo bravo.
US doesn't have balls.
Ban TikTok completely
Why
@@JonySmith-bb4gx it’s trash full of emotional people and bad enough America steals data but for a foreigner that probably not a good idea
The Irony saying it’s unfair is hilarious 😂
Pure hysterical anti-China antics
Smart Chinese people defined the mobile Internet era, and tiktok wrote history. Chinese people are proud of this. You have to admit, this is the glory of those Chinese.
It doesn't matter who is destroying this glory. Just like the dark history of the slave trade cannot destroy the glory of the heroes of that era.
BAN IT.
Imagine them hacking every single phone if we go to war.
swaitun, India has already banned it. I think America is not as corrupt.
Your phone only?
“Fair competition”😂 Can Instagram, RUclips compete in China?
Im willing to give up youtube ang google spotify for this usa owns lot more social media apps and i dont think its a threat same thing for tiktok
Speaking as an American, I am far more concerned about the US government having my personal data.
it'd be a service to humanity to ban it worldwide
Only Christienity has freedom inside the USA. It is called discriminatin.
Don’t asked USA government, ask TikTok users!!!
Competitive advantage from other countries. Hmm, I'm still trying to find ways as a Mexican American to set a shop in Aliexpress, Alibaba, or Temu. They don't let you as a foreigner.
Tell China to unban RUclips, Facebook, Instagram, Google and Yahoo in China, then they can say something about this.
They did it respectively in respond to the American bans on Chinese products.
China bans everything non-Chinese, US is dealing with it on the basis of reciprocity. There is nothing wrong with that.
US is as bad as the authoritarian communist.
So you want the American Govt to be like China then.. because if the 1st goes the rest of our rights aren't far behind.
They partially do it in respond to the American bans on Chinese products.
So many lies. China is filled with foreign brands and products everywhere. Where is the banning? . Have you ever been to China?
The practice of China government is quite different from USA.
China: There are the internet regulations that all internet Apps should follow, no matter the ownership of App. If not , blocked technically by its Great Firewall.
USA : no regulations Tiktok failed to follow so far. But Tiktok is owned by China company , it has to be sold to a US friendly company , otherwise , it is banned.
The same bill can be used to ban websites/Apps of any countries that US does not like , such as Middle East /Arabs media, Or Africa Media. Even worse, it can be used to ban Twitter (X) as US president can claim X is controlled by foreign enemy.
China crying wolf, when all their users are behind a firewall and cannot access many non Chinese applications ;)
It is said that China refused Google but accepted Apple. The reason is the location of data server. Google didn’t allow to set data servers in China for chinese datas. However, TikTok have data server in US and supervised by the third party.
Yeah... TikTok like Alibaba, Temu etc can at anytime be forced to share data on anyone, not just Americans.
Not ture. TikTok American Data are stored inside the USA. It is like a most wanted by China can be free in the USA.
Sharing the data for what purpose? China is too busy managing its 1.4 billion people to have an interest in what dance you like to do on tik tok. The threat is over blown and mostly just projecting.
This has more to do about the US not being able to compete against Chinese products in the US than "national security". Hiawei was banned in the US for "national security" without any proof, Chinese electric cars are being targeted for "national security" as well.
China literally has laws where large companies need to be partially owned by the government. Who do they think they are?
You're wrong
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Who cares about TikTok. We got RUclips Shorts.
RUclips shorts lose to TikTok.
no problem" create American Tik- Tok!!
So Facebook, RUclips, Google, Instagram. All blocked in China. But totally unfair to ban TikTok? Lmfao!
🙌🏻 totally agree with u
They are not blocked. I am able to use all these apps with ATT or Tmobil roaming.
hi, where am i ?
I can live without Tiktok. Can't you!??
The same way meta does 🤦🏻♂️
FACEBOOK SHOULD BE BANNED WORLDWIDE
Telling tik tok to cut ties with China is the same like asking google to cut ties with the US 😂.Americans use Tik Tok to make a living just imagine how many Americans will lose their busines if the US government bans Tik Tok.
THe US Govt doesn't care. TikTok is not censoring posts from Gaza. This is why it must be banned.
China complaining about fairness 🤣
Does that mean China can ban iPhones for national security reasons too?
Maybe but there are 1.5million chinese who depend on apples supply chain for a job
They'll just hint at a boycott if you love your country and stir up that nationalistic pot. Then iPhone sales will go down without a ban.
Yes and if they do who cares
Hold strong tiktok & China don't let US bully you! If US wants to isolate themselves from the world let them, it's their loss
The US wants to have it sold to a company that will do the US government’s bidding .
That is a company like facebook that will hire 1000's of content moderators who used to work for the FBI/CIA/NSA. Thousands of them
Seriously ban it. It is one of the worst, then ban the hole format of shorts.
I have no problem with reddit or instagram but these shorts are horrible for childrean and people with ADHD. They are the internet in its most addictive form and clearly target childrean/teenagers
They could always sell the app to Russia. 🤣🤣🤣
Russia wouldn't be allowed to buy it. Only US firms a fire sale price.
Tik Tok MUST withdraw from US Market. Move their operation to African Continent.
Long run it's more stable. De register from NYSE.
Ps: and ban X too!
Tiktok is so bad for kids.. that its 🤢
So google dont have info of their user?? 😊
Mexixo, Canada, EU, UK, Japan, Australia, South Korea and the rest of the free world should follow US ban of tiktok.
They should also ban Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, X/Twitter, RUclips and other Google apps, all Apple apps, Android, iOS/macOS, Windows, etc... since the US government have access to all their user data and can use it with bad intentions, like Edward Snowden revealed some time ago.
They should also ban Facebook and RUclips too. Everyone of them should just come up a new version of these app for themselves. After all, why should any country trust any product from other countries? Everyone can be an enemy! 😊
It’s not like Mexico, Japan or South Korean or Germany or France has never been screwed by US in the past. Japanese companies will tell you all about it! Haha! Everyone should take the matter into their own hands, ban all the foreign stuff, they all suspicious!
@@TuhunluunBionoid Facebook and RUclips are American companies. Tiktok is Chinese company. We don't trust Chinese companies under the control of CCP. It's totally fair here.
@@TuhunluunBionoid We don't trust Chinese companies under the control of CCP.
No doubt tiktok uses data collected that way.
But the fun fact is that US companies does exactly the same thing with international users :))
Yes if the Govt really cared about the Data they would pass Data privacy laws..
Would you rather your government do it or a hostile foreign autocratic government?
Apples and oranges. The U.S. government doesn't own stake in any social media companies and don't really care about the data from international users. American businesses might care to better to sell their products. This is about a hostile foreign government having access to the minds and data of Americans.
The issue are two ways, it's not just the availability of the company, but also the availability of the users.
Every country should be monitoring within their own country, so it's one thing US want to ban a foreign apps like TikTok, which is within their right to do that, it's another thing a foreign user sign up on a local platform. It's like a non-Chinese sign up for Douyin (Chinese version of Tiktok) and then complaint about Douyin monitoring their usage. Well, it's within your right not to use that platform.....
You're deflecting. China wants to play by two different sets of rules.
Freedom for all
Aha, TikTok receives such severe blow, so quickly, is allegedly due to TikTok users honest report of Isreeli carnage in Pelestine.
India 🇮🇳 was the first to ban Tiktok - they sure got the balls 🏀 (courage)
The US is all about "free markets" and "fair competition".... until they are out-competed...
Does China play by the rules? They haven't for the last 25 years in terms of international regulations.
@@littleowlbooks8514 What are the international regulations?
The sands of time have run out on tik tok .
Also on youtube x instagram etc...
China should not be the one to complain about unfairness when it comes to banning social media platforms.
How many RUclips users does China have?
Lots. All bots of CCP
There are many chinese earning YT award.
This is not about China - this about Israel and AIPAC
US keeps threatening meanwhile india did it long back in 2020 😂😂
We should learn from the most democratic and free Afghanistan to ban TikTok.
@@Im.sorry.you.feel.that.way. the irony is that US is in no mood to ‘learn’. Thats precisely the reason it is a collapsing society.
Since US is a more mature and democratic country than India? What india did is just to tell the world that any investment in India is risky and up to the government’s mood. I believe most investors don’t like the sound of that.
@@TuhunluunBionoid india banned tiktok after consultations and credible evidence of data leak and theft.
It just shows that indians are proactive to act in their national interests while US eventually follows the same model after a lot of lazy delays.
US is lazy asf
Internet becomes a lot less cringe when you ban tik tok so that's an added benefit apart from the data protection stuff
My understanding of China app rules are to have data store local, regulated with anti-ccp content. Apple , ms are ok with it so they can open shop, google fb say no, then no license.
Facebook is a specific case, they complied with the Chinese law, but China had various terrorist attacks in last decade that were organized in Facebook, and the company refused to cooperate with the Chinese government antiterrorist measures.
I hope the UK Government officials also bans this app, my kid is driving me nuts
My only concern is what next?.. If our government can remove TikTok.. what else can they remove or already removed?
You are exactly right.
You should read up on history....and revisit the reason for massacres if you really want to know the answer to that.
@@sweetsendaedreamr Oh I know the history XD
It would be good to ban Tik Tok in the EU as well
EU should ban Facebook and RUclips, too. EU’s own app needs a chance to grow, 😊
How dare they complaining about unfairness when they ban Facebook, google , eBay , Amazon and many many others and not only that they copied and made their own version .. get out of here with the unfair argument
None of them is banned. Amazon and eBay don’t do well in Chinese market so gave up themselves. Facebook and google didnt want to comply with Chinese law, so they also decide to exit China. Tik tok does well and has complies to US laws but still got singled out. There are huge differences!
U destroyed the karen above . Nice@@TuhunluunBionoid
@@TuhunluunBionoid you can say whatever you want but China copied all of them .. TikTok is pretty much the only Chinese platform and they have to go..!
That's democracy, Karl!
India already did that long ago 🤣🤣🤣🤣
India has been making trouble lately
RUclips Instagram Facebook etc all owned by the USA it's good to have a competitor.
*The irony !* 🙄
Ban tiktok like India did in 2020.
The thing is America has this thing called Free Speech it is our 1st right..