I'm a Sri Lankan.. randomly found your channel. Clarke's homosexuality and his desire for young boys is a famous secret in Sri Lanka. Everybody knew it but nobody talked about it, because he was a sort of celebrity. We learnt about Clarke's scientific works in the school and people really respected him. I remember as a child we went on a school trip to the planetarium and they had a small museum full of Clarke's works. I remember, reading his 2001 space Odyssey and it got me really interested about astronomy. Of course at that time we didn't know about anything regarding his personal life, but many adults knew this. It was no secret.
Love these long journalistic deep dives! One of the best YT vids I've seen in a while. Also, your setup is really cool. Nice to see someone who talks about movies without a background littered with Funko Pops, action figures and posters.
Oh my god you're the first person to say that out loud. What the hell happened to Millennials? They all seem to be obsessed with covering their shelves with stupid toys that should only appeal to 10 year olds.
Many thanks for this interesting video. I have to say, your approach on RUclips is a breath of fresh air. It’s nice to watch things that don’t make me feel like I have ADHD, with constant edits, loud voices etc.
Seems like a lot of hearsay. Not denying it could be true, but unattributed sources and conspiratorial "they were trying to cover it up" or these "tabloid journalists are believable but the BBC weren't credible" along with the "missing" tape all point to yellow journalism that wouldn't pass muster in a court.
That would be too brilliant, Rob would have thousands of thousands of people on YT and thee Internet in general going to look up the show and spend the next 2 'n' half hrs horrified
I think it’s pretty much a slam dunk case. He never really denied it because he never thought it was bad. But it actually was. He was clearly psychologically stunted. And you need to leave youngsters alone.
Before I even start watching this, I have to say I knew there was something at least a bit odd about Clarke since I read his book 3001:The Final Odyssey, in which it's strongely implied that scientists had sexual relationships with modified and trained Gorillas.
A fantastic exposition and investigation. I had friends in Sri Lanka, in high society, and they all knew he was a p'phile and said it to me directly. I asked my then girlfriend who organised a meeting with him, through her contacts, at his house to talk about supporting a biodiversity expedition I was setting up in SL; and to get him to sign a few books. It is was an open secret. The locals in Colombo knew about it.
@@Doctorgoatboy Obviously in tandum with the rest of the evidence, it means more. It's funny how people become incredibly dense when trying to rationalize their preconceptions.
As a child, I watched Mysterious World, and I've always remembered that Arthur C. Clarke lived in Sri Lanka. It was part of his mysterious and creepy image. Pretty disturbing to learn he might have lived there for the legal access to underage...
@@LemonsAndSalt69 A lot of it is reading articles from the net, yes, but there's a lot of extra information and connections I've gathered from diff sources. So there's a journalism element. In fact, most paid "journalists" pretty much copy and reword stories they receive from the major news outlets or newswire press agencies. Some of them might actually do a bit of leg work to get a new quote or two from a source.
@@collativelearning Lemons & Salt is correct. Journalism entails strategically omitting any salient, actionable, true information that might incriminate or impugn the reputation of powerful people or institutions to ensure that the journalist's access to said people can be preserved indefinitely, and professional status maintained in the manufacture of official history and state orthodoxy. What Rob does is not beholden to access, nor to advertising dollars - in fact some of his videos have been obviously suppressed by the intelligence-linked site that hosts his work - so he is not the minion of editors captured by big money, intelligence agencies, nor governments. Therefore, it would be unfair, inaccurate, and effectively slander to call Rob a journalist. The more complimentary title might be Open Source Intelligence Presenter, Analyst or Interpreter. What Rob does incorporates the spirit of the scientific method and indulges the intelligence of his audience. What journalists do amounts to shades of propaganda and advertising. Vastly different affairs. Keep up the good work, Rob
My point was, Rob’s benefit of doubt is the size of hell and half of Georgia. 75/25? I was 100% convinced of his guilt about 13 pages into his article.
I had been wondering about this for a while. People had been throwing around strong accusations, but without any substance to back it up. Thanks a lot for this detailed, differentiated examination of evidence. This is the kind of reporting we need.
The kid wasn't sitting on his lap, he was sitting on the armrest of the chair. Lots of servants - providing income to many in a poor country? An ego chamber or just a collection of mementos of a life of achievement?
I was thinking about Jimmy Saville especially towards the end of your video with the amount of support he (& Clarke) received from the establishment and news outlets. His sense of overwhelming self superiority, his access to children, his influence over them as they were star struck too. His offers of help as Jimmy will Fix It etc (with Clarke financial "help"). It all started to resonate with me. I was also thinking throughout that reporters love a sensational story and apparently so do their readers, it put me off most of what you were saying about this reports up to about halfway through. My mind started to turn more after your point about of all the places in the world why sri lanka. A compelling and very well put together argument. Did i miss whether this had put you off any further work based around Clarke? Also thanks for the free download of your report. Take care Rob you have a very fair and logical mind.
It hasn't put me off any further work on clarke. Just needed to get this subject cleared up in my own mind, if no one else's. Have got lots of notes for new article or vid on Clarke in the future that will likely leave the allegations out.
@@collativelearning That great Rob, bought and read all your videos /articles on my favourite films like 2001 and The shining . I have felt in those films there was something more but couldn't put my finger on it or articulate it properly. Thanks for that.Truthstream media did an interesting recent video on The Shining . Cheers.
@@collativelearning UK broadsheet papers did interviews with Clarke in the early 2000s and hinted heavily that the young teen boys in his villa were not just there for decoration. Cant remember the paper unfortunately but remember reading it. Clarke used to opine frequently about problems with the age of consent - FW thats Worth. also he was notorious on the London gay scene as a pederast. And plus, check out the juxtaposition of Clarkes book and milk of magnesia plus toilet roll at the end of Spielberg's first film (Amblin)Spielberg was making a point, justified or not. the UK media reportage for me was convincing, they reported it as accepted fact.
@@powerbite92 What about milk of magnesia, a toilet roll, and Amblin? Could you elaborate more plz. I just looked at Wiki about that short film for some clues, but am still clueless.
If a fireman had a sex conviction, is he precluded from putting out your house fire? And if he saves your kids life, doesn't that get him a few points? Or should you wait until a nonpredator firefighter arrives?
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Sounding apologetic to pedos around here. I would argue they never should have been there in the first place and have been convicted or worse. I don't sympathize with predators.
Gives "Childhoods End" a whole new meaning lol... I do believe Arthur was part of the "big elite" weirdo club though. That journalist that wrote "HACK" was spot on imo. Great vid! This club hates humans. Prince Philip once famously said "If I could come back as a deadly virus I would." If you read Julien Huxley you find the same disdain for humanity.
@@WoodysAR Exactly!!! I Hate And I Have Bitter Unforgiveness And Utter Contempt For The People That Gang Raped And Sexually Abused Me When I Was A Teenager And The Teachers Who Should Have Known Better And Didn't Believe Me When I Told Them I Had Been Gang Raped, Those Teachers Just Turned A Blind Eye To What Happened And Didn't Take Responsibility And Any Action For One Of Their Students That Had Been Sexually Abused!!! 😭😭😭
i love Rob's non judgemental and unbiased approach to difficult topics such as this one while being critically accurate at the same time. Man's on a level
There are times when I've disagreed with things Rob has said, but I like how he goes about his videos, research, etc, and that's why I continue to watch his videos. He's a good hombre, as far as I'm concerned.
as always, your coverage is fascinating. Kudos for being able to talk sense for 2 hours straight. Who doesn't want an Ego Chamber, if I were successful I would have one too. I've been following you since 2008/09 on yoiutube. You are one of the best, if not the best, investigative journalist / analyst. If you switched from covering horror films to horrors of reality, you would open a lot of eyes.
The bit in Eyes Wide Shut when Bill goes to the mansion by day and stands by the gates, and a black car pulls up at the gate and a man gets out and hands Bill a note warning him not to pursue his investigations - that man is a representation of Arthur C Clarke.
I disagree. This shines a light on some of the intention and ideology behind the art, which leads to a better understanding of what paths or justifications its appreciation may lead to.
@@ryancalhoun2910 I just mean that an artists ideology isn't always wholly separate from the art they create, no matter how "good" it is. It may not always be as black and white as straight propaganda. Rob even mentions in the video how Clarke's elitism comes across in his work. Some would say that is not an ideology you want to promote as "good". That doesn't detract from it being creative and artistic, just something to call out.
My mom was a big fan of 2001 and Arthur C Clarke. She mentioned to me one time in the 80s that she read where he was messing around with kids in Sri Lanka and she lost a lot of respect for him because of it.
After watching your very good video on Arthur C. Clarke it made me wonder if Clarke and Lord Mountbatten were friendly? Both sharing the same predilection for boys of a darker skin tone .
An otter in that context is an adult who is of slender pathetic build with facial hair and body hair. Like slim version of a bear. So not a child at all. Generally speaker children don't have beards.
Of the many things I admire about your work, Mr. Ager, is how you are willing to be inconclusive. If only more researchers where willing to admit to that.
I hate that people wants kids so bad but when they have them, they get stressed out and want to abuse and hurt them. Feels wrong on so many levels that we need to do better as a society.We need to better communication besides getting some all the time.
I wasn't sure if I was going to watch something this heavy before going to bed but I did. You do great film analysis but you also cover things like the Neverland documentary (which you mentioned) and the pros and cons of Deepfakes. Well presented, impeccable research and fair. Personally, I found the Troyer letter very convincing. On a side note, and it might seem silly, small things like closing the curtains or putting on a light reinforce your relatability. Others would have made a cut and stuck to the presentation. Small things like that are very refreshing. As I said, silly, but... I think people will get me. Amazing work and have a great 2023.
Thank you for taking the time to cover a controversial and touchy subject. He was a brilliant writer but he was also more than that. Some good - some bad. All people are a balance of good and bad behavior and trying to discuss them in as honest and accurate a way as possible is important.
Good Lord, 'some good, some bad'? Seriously? In all probability, Arthur C. Clarke had sex with kids--poverty-stricken children in a poor country renowned for its sex tourism. Clarke sodomized them, violated them, raped them. You seem morally crippled, so let me help you out: They're kids, okay? Using kids as fungible sex toys is vile, evil, horrible beyond measure.
@@troyriser8074 Seems like you understand what happened. You don't understand though. I thanked our narrator for sharing the good and the bad - which doesn't happen anymore. Neither side should be hidden and the truth should be put out there. And before you throw stones at others with wild and uncontrolled emotions calm yourself and think. I worked with these people at a level 5 prison for 12 years. You may want points for being the most outraged but I was the guy that shut the door to thousands of these people every day. Save your theatrics. Do what our narrator did and share the truth of this man's story so other's know that monsters can create beautiful things. Life isn't black and white. Brilliance doesn't equal morality.
@@angrydrunkengerman2819 There aren't fucking 'shades of gray' when the topic is the rape of children. Working as a prison guard, while an honorable profession, doesn't grant you some kind of moral authority in this or any other argument.
@@thegafferlives You can figure it out. I didn't show enough anger and venom for obviously despicable behavior for him. And frankly people would be shocked if they knew how pervasive this problem is. It's pretty much been standard practice for musicians for years.
I had never heard these rumors before, as I've never been a fan of Clarke's and thus haven't paid attention to news stories about him. But after watching your video, I agree with the 75% learning towards true conclusion. The move to Sri Lanka is very suggestive. Also, the Troyer story is a bombshell, especially as the entire community Clarke lived in was apparently wary of letting their children around him. Not surprising, if Clarke was so predatory as to strip naked a child he had met only minutes ago. Good grief.
Yeah there are too many red flags. When we must theorize an elaborate conspiracy to try to explain away all the allegations from lots of different people, the simple explanation becomes plausible. Goes to the saying: "If you smell crap everywhere you go, check your shoe."
Clarke was a very early adopter of email and personal computers, somewhat famously doing most of the collaboration on "2010" remotely in the early 1980s. And even in the 1960s he was publicly stating that this revolution in communications, the ability to work from anywhere, was coming soon. So perhaps that (correct) belief in future technology makes his decision to move away somewhat more logical.
I am a big fan of 2001 and I remember in the late 1980s reading this very book. I was interested in reading the novel and also finding out the differences between the film and the book. It was fascinating how they were different in places and how AC Clarke disagreed with SC and wrote what he wanted.
I already read the PDF you wrote on your “community” page; not a pleasant read 😢. I can understand you being more convinced of Clarke’s guilt than his innocence. Aside from those “embarrassing” diaries, I wonder what other evidence/ irrefutable proof that Clarke is guilty will become public.
Back in the very late nineties or possibly very early noughties I was on a conference arranged by a commercial Satellite organisation and during one of the breaks, in conversation with another delegate, I was made aware of the rumors which were then quite recent. You’ve made a very thorough presentation Rob, perhaps you’re familiar with the (updated) authorized biography by Neil McAleer which to me strongly suggested that ACC was gay and hinted at the two main male relationships in his life without naming particular details. I think I’ve read all ACC’ s Sci-fi books and some non-fiction as well and whether the allegations are true, false or somewhere in between, I think some points bear elaborating: When ACC moved to Sri Lanka he was not particular wealthy. His wealth and fame really first came as a consequence of 2001 the movie being a commercial success. Until then he was a moderately successful author desperately wishing for one of his books being adapted to film. Perhaps he did move there partly to escape the stigma of being a gay man in a country where being gay was illegal. Some of the negative comments about ACC having multiple servants I find irrelevant. In poor countries as an expat you were expected to hire some locals thereby providing them with an income. If you did not, you were not accepted, As another poster pointed out I feel the “ego-room” discussion is pure character assasination; Recording artists and producers display their accolades and awards, sports legends their trophies, physicists their Nobels, actors and directors their Oscars etc - not necessarily to prop up their ego but as mementos of achievements, discussion points with visitors or, if these displays are gifts they are on display to avoid embarrassment if the giver comes visiting and asks “where is that certificate/plague/figurine we gave you”. I do think Mrs. Lambert’s article reads like a smear piece. She clearly didn’t like the man, for which reason we don’t know, but that is irrelevant. Some of the “reporting” where allegations are repeated by different sources to me indicate a possible plain reuse or rehash of the original Mail piece, with no separate, Independent journalistic effort involved. Probably not available, but a more detailed chronology of the allegations would be very interesting - especially in light of ACC’s affliction from Polio. One thing I am surprised you did not bring up is the fact that ACC was stricken with polio in 1962, and confirmed suffering from post-polio syndrome in 1988. Shortly thereafter severely dependent on a wheel-chair for the rest of his life. This ties somewhat into the unfurnished bedroom which could be interpreted as the necessity for an increasingly immobile, wheel chair bound elderly person to be helped in and out of his wheel chair, being properly cared for, ease of cleaning, access to bed etc. If you ever watched someone dying from old age and failing health, the lasting images are of the personal stuff being removed to give way to more and more medical equipment. Once the person dies and the medical equipment is then taken away this leaves the room very bare and very impersonal. His bedroom was very likely his hospital room during the latter stages of his life and was perhaps redecorated to repair marks and damages from, orthopedic tools, winches, lifts and similar appliances. I did spot the gay/bi-theme in Songs of Distant Earth, and if I remember correctly there was a reference to a kinky scene between consenting adults in Ghost from the Grand Banks. By today’s standards, or even back then, hardly controversial. Some have mentioned weird passages on sex in his books. Please note that most of this is most likely accreditable to Gentry Lee, co-author on the dreadful Rama sequels and the equally abysmal Cradle. Lee was apparently brought in to add “characterisation” to the novels to make up for Clarke’s deficiencies in that regard. I believe it is well accepted that the collaborations with other authors during the latter years of ACC’s authorship were increasingly necessary because Clarke’s mental facilities deteriorated to a point where he was unable to write. McAleer’s biography hints at a decline over time but without more detailed information everything is speculation. Well, did he or didn’t he? I don’t know.
Thank-you for writing this very sensible counterpoint. There are rumours, hearsay, and maybe/possibly some truth in there, but I feel we have to be very careful in making assumptions and thereby making a fact out of them.
@@ryancalhoun2910 I don’t think he means this video specifically but just in general, to which I agree. I’m not _always_ on Rob’s page, but he’s such a fascinating guy to listen to, and he almost always presents a very strong and nuanced argument, so I can’t fault his opinions, I just disagree with them. He hated Blade Runner: 2049 for example, I happen to really like that film, simply a matter of taste.
@@horrorfanandy4647 That's a fair view. The thing about Rob that I'm not always a fan of is I think he likes too many movies lol. There's a lot of films he's done analysis of and given tons of praise that I really don't care for (including the first Blade Runner movie. I personally hate Blade Runner original or sequel)
If you read his book " A view from Serendip " you get some insights as to his life in Ceylon, Sri Lanka. He had a house there with servants, mostly men. He treated them well. Nothing from his writings or rumours of him having any questionable activities with them. If he did he kept it well hidden.
2:15:28 I think Hector was saying, in his broken English, that the person who'd come for help would wait in the library until Arthur arrived from his bedroom... not that Hector would sit in the library until Arthur and the person who'd come for help came out of the bedroom together.
Yes I may have misheard that and a few others have mentioned it here. I still ask though, who was coming to Clarke locally for "help", what kind of help did they want and what was in it for Clarke? Thanks.
I never dug into the case that deeply, I came across a website that gave a virtual tour of Clarke's house. I'd agree that there's enough stories to support the idea that Clarke did reside in Sri Lanka for the sex tourism aspect. I think the equatorial climate would be too hot in Sri Lanka, not sure how good air conditioning was in the 1950s.
You can get used to hot weather. On the other hand, you can't get used to sub-freezing weather. Rather, you have to bundle up, stay dry, and eat a lot to maintain warmth. Otherwise you'll eventually suffer a lot of harm to your body up to and including death.
First, I am grateful and respectful of your work. I am impressed by your analysis of movies, and was also impressed by your comments on " Leaving Neverland." This felt like a fair breakdown. I have learned not to put people on pedestals. However this was sad for me to hear. I grew up with the books of Arthur C. Clarke and always held him in admiration. I also recall watching him as a TV presenter. It is like finding out about the allegations of Bill Cosby. Thanks for the integrity you strive for.
Daily mail did an article on me and a tragedy that occurred. it was mostly lies and complete distortion. This deep dive you are doing is very sobering and valid
that publication is an utterly repugnant stain on journalism and human decency. I had to force them to admit they were faking DWP figures to the public and get a retraction. Trying to stir hatred with total lies.
@@Camille_Anderson much of that comes from the top. Paul Dacre comes over as just about the most unpleasant’person’ I’ve ever come across. A “man of the people” with a gigantic house and thousands of acres of Scottish countryside. There’s nothing inclusive about him. It was nice to see his true unpleasantness exposed by Leveson.
Updated thoughts on Sri Lanka laws (spent a bit of time looking into it today): --- I do believe the human rights campaigners' assertions that underage boys would've been held as legally responsible as the adult perverts was true in the past. The original 1883 Penal Code for Sri Lanka had limited wording, defining sexual crimes as involving ones against "women" and "girls", not boys. Instead, that kind of thing falls under "Unnatural offences" involving "males" because Sri Lanka hated homosexuality, it was considered a crime in itself full stop. So the wording there was too broad, and the punishment back then involved whipping. Ouch! And this Penal Code was not amended AT ALL until 1993! Yeah, really dodgy. --- The article by Ceylon Today which said that sex with underage boys not being prohibited is a very serious accusation from the journalist. Looking into the actual amended Penal Codes of Sri Lanka since the 1990s, I think criminalisation of sex with underage boys does exist by implication, "child" being defined as "any persons under the age of 18". But still, various research papers (not just the ones featured in Rob's article) showed sexual abuse of boys as being more common than abuse of girls even to this day, which to me indicates that the police still aren't as stringent in practice. --- This is a shocking revelation when I realised it, Sri Lanka has still not yet criminalised adult male on male rape! The clauses on rape crimes in the actual amended legalisation only define the victims of those crimes as "women", not any persons. And a Wiki page on homosexuality in Sri Lanka says human rights organisations are aware of this problem. My god, Sri Lanka has been atrociously IRRESPONSIBLE with its laws over the years! And yet my sister said she enjoyed her stay there last year!
The problem here is similar to many other jurisdictions, countries etc. and that is when corruption infiltrates the various authorities (police, judicial system, political powers that be, etc) then, regardless of what is written or implied in laws, the ACTUAL implementation of said laws will be severely compromised.
I've just got to the end and this is fucking stellar, for lack of a better word, journalism. This is the standard and he's not even a journalist. top quality stuff.
I am grateful for this video. I love how you are usually so fair minded about examining both sides of every case. I wonder how much Kubrick knew about this.
Heh. I was thinking of Kubrick when Rob mentioned one of the characters in Sri Lanka was named "Tony" who was the name of the secret friend in The Shining.
From what is known of Stanley Kubrick, I don't think that he had the kind of people skills that would have caused him to catch on to any cues that Clarke might have inadvertently showed around him.
I’ve just read your 43 page report on this, and you probably won’t see this comment, but I wanted to thank you for such an in-depth, balanced investigation into something I had no idea about (until reading your piece). 2001 is my most favorite film (and one of my favorite things, in general), so I was/am pretty massively disappointed in learning this, though I’m by no means surprised. It doesn’t change my love for 2001 (which I, as a woman of color, consider to be a problematic fave in and of itself…….given everyone’s white and the women are essentially decorations 😂). It’s important for us not to glorify those who create the things we love, to the point where we are blind to their faults, and I thank you for reminding me of this. And now I can’t wait to see your analysis on 2001!
Why does liking a piece of art “problematic”? If you’re attracted to it, then it’s good. I’m a black man and I love this dudes content. Your race isn’t your personality, remember. Despite the Eurocentric paradigm trying to persuade you otherwise.
I'm not sure how many times one can find instances of accusations for a guy who clearly had a sham marriage and moved to a country lenient on pedophilia. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Not an uncommon tale unfortunately.
@@palehorse1111 Many people have been falsely accused of things based on ignorance and a bigoted use of "no smoke without fire," that's the problem with neat little sayings, they are used to make generalisations seem universally true.
Actually let me ask you in response. How many times? You claim that it is a lot. Can you provide any evidence for this? Wouldn't that automatically make any westerner a suspect for pedophilia just for taking any trip to Thailand, Sri Lanka, or any of these places you refer to? I mean, yes, many would go there for sex tourism. But you could easily accuse them of anything. How could any of them defend themselves when facing such an accusation? Its like you imply they are all guilty by default.
@@StopFear That's exactly how these sh((heads like it. Proof is difficult, FEELZ are easy. Just look at Johnny Depp, his whole career got ruined because of FEELZ held by sub-human scum. Took years for him to clear his name and even now some hardcore haters don't accept the evidence.
"according to the World Health Organization, Sri Lanka had the world's highest age-standardized suicide rate in 2015, with 34.6 suicides per 100,000 people in the population, the highest rate in the world. An unusually high number of suicides and acts of self-harm arise in the setting of interpersonal confrontations and family disagreements." - Wiki
This video is brilliant Rob. Please make more long form videos like this where you go into areas beyond film (not that I don't love your film criticism, but it's interesting to see more unusual topics like this )
Just one point where you went off the rails, in the television interview clip the story was about visitors being given books to read while they waited for Clarke to come out of his bedroom, not reading books waiting for visitors to come out of his bedroom
I visited Sri Lanka many times in the late 90's/early 2000's due to work. I never met Clarke (although I did try, as I was a fan of his writing) but the locals always spoke of him and Ekanayake as a married couple, it was also 'well known' that he liked his rent boy visits, and he liked them young. I didn't see any of this first hand, so it could well just be a good story for the 'tourist' but I think there is more truth than not in it.
I’ve seen this footage of him admitting to having teenage rent boys. Saw it on norwegian tv back in the 90’s. He was saying that by paying these boys for sex he was actually helping them. I’ve never seen this footage since then. Been trying to find it online. No trace of it.
@@bookeblade well, I’ve never really familiarized myself with his work, but knew his name from a quote on a Amiga 500 demo called “Global Trash” by the group Silents. I’ve definitely seen this interview. He was quite frank and unapologetic about it. I’m sorry that I cannot give you any more info. But I do remember that he resided in Sri Lanka.
It seems conspicuous that both Arthur and his brother in their responses to the allegations put forward the exact same argument that he wasn't physically capable of doing these things currently despite the fact the allegations were very obviously about things he had done in the past, not things he was doing now. Either neither of these two presumably well educated men were capable of basic reading comprehension or they were deliberately trying to mislead people about what the actual allegations were.
Although fresh accusations were still being made-so he could have been denying those in large part. I do wonder just how severe Clarke's physical limitations were in reality in early 1998. In 1993/1994 he filmed the third of his ITV series on the mysterious that began airing in July 1994 & was moving fine when he was shooting standing scenes. In March 1997-a year before the allegations he was interviewed by Roger Ebert on camera & albeit he was sitting down the entire time, he looked in good health & was freely able to move his arms & that is all an abuser needs-the use of his arms & hands, especially a rich & famous one who can lure children to their property & don't have to physically snatch them off the streets.
When I was a kid there was this creepy book about ghosts and other phenomena sitting on my attic from A.C. Clark; I was intrigued but those images have haunted my entire childhood. Thank you for the clarifacition.
Great, in depth analysis Rob. I was vaguely aware, but hearing the details is horrifying. A case of finding out a person you admired and respected turns out to be an unrepentant monster, there's just too much evidence to dismiss. Never meet your heroes, admire the art, not the artist.
A lesson taught in the Pixar movie _Up,_ in the sub-plot of Charles Muntz the "great explorer," and total creep, idolized by main character Carl Fredricksen since he was a ten-year-old.
The potential symbolism in "Childhood's End," once you hear these allegations, makes me sick to my stomach. More innocently, I always assumed he was either homosexual or sexual based on how poorly he wrote male attraction/reaction to women.
American failed presidential candidate John Edwards would want to agree with you. However it was the tabloid that exposed his corruption when the “real“ media wouldn’t.
@@Thespeedrap That's not the half of it, his paper hacked a murdered girls mobile phone, & staged photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners. Ever wonder why he turned up in the US? because he was toxic byond the pale over here in the UK.....I can't believe people think he'e rehabilitated because he call out Meghan Markle & her wife
Should be no surprise Clarke was able to fly under the radar while he was over there in Sri Lanka. Jimmy Savile managed it while here in the UK while he rubbed shoulders with the great and glorious!
A very well researched video relating to a very sordid and difficult topic. Whenever I hear a proponent of 'Transhumanism' (i e Arthur C Clarke) allegations like this are never far behind.
My friend from a city in Sri Lanka, it was Galle? told me about it, when I had quite naive thoughts about A. C. Clarke, but he called him "mostly hebephile".
Art Clarke: "Hey, kid. Wanna see Childhood's End?" Sri Lankan Rentboy: "Mr.Clarke, I didn't know there was a movie!" Art Clarke: "I mean, we can film it, if you want."
This one made me laugh: Rentboy: "Mr. Clarke, what are you doing with that big black monolith?" Art Clarke: "I'm going to bury it in your moon until you reach a certain age." Rentboy: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
I got to meet and speak a little with Clarke twice. (One of my literary heroes) Once in the 70s when he came and guest lectured at Chico State University in Chico California, (I was in High School, but played hooky that day to go hear him speak with a friend.), and years later got to exchange words with him by a late night Satellite/Internet connection at a Science Fiction Convention I attended in the Pacific Northwest around the turn of the Century. (I attended many SF Conventions up and down the Region across 3 states so I can't remember the exact Date or which Con this was at... Probably a BayCon in San Jose California) He was very polite and Congenial. He was a part of 1930's Science Fiction Fan Circles in Britain, and was given the nickname "Ego Clarke" by fellow fans. So the "Ego Room" I sense is actually a Joke reference to his roots in SF Fandom from his youth. I was entering semi-organized SF Fandom BEFORE "Star Wars" Or the "Star Trek" revival period. I remember being made fun of, and even socially Ostracized because of my interest in SF and Fantasy Literature, movies, and culture. And my interest in Space exploration. This tended to make many SF Fans a little stand offish and disassociated from the wider Pop culture. (I am also Autistic on the Aspergers spectrum, which didn't help.) Many authors (And artists) I know and have seen their writing spaces, have a variation of Clarkes "Ego Room". Where they keep their own books that have been published, or awards and letters. Some don't but might be less organized about it and have boxes of their works or memorabilia. Many creatives do this, often I think it actually serves as a Reminder that they need to ADD to it. Especially for Writers, "Writers Block" is a real terror, and any mechanism that can help to fight it off has to be used. Not everyone is an Asimov, who would spew constant text like a broken lawn faucet. (In my boxed archives I even have a letter from HIM!) Very sad to hear about this terrible behavior on his part. It makes me wonder if he might have been molested by a family or area pedophile when he was a minor, as often this mental disorder is perpetuated from Childhood experience of the same transgressions. That emotional trauma can become locked in at the age of the attack, which could explain the terrible lack of judgement about how often, and open, the perpetrators are about their behaviors. Especially by someone as obviously brilliant as Clarke was. Not as much "Privilege" as it is BLINDNESS. Our stupid Sexual Organs seem to be placed there to get us all into trouble.
Nice post. As I watched this piece I had this strange feeling that Clarke surrounded himself with people and things not out of ego but loneliness and maybe emptiness.
@@timleopardxolo We Could Also Add To The List Of 'Notable Nonces' And Pederastrists:- Gary Glitter, Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris, Max Clifford, Jonathan King And Wilfrid Bramble And Quite Possibly Science Fiction Author Arthur C. Clarke Who Is Alleged/Accused Of Pederasty (Having Sex With Pubescent Rent Boys In Sri Lanka) However I Don't Think Any Of These 'Notable Nonces' Are In The Same League As Jeffrey Epstein And Jimmy Savile???🤔
I had no idea about these claims. I thought Childhood's End was a fascinating read that I enjoyed at the time that I read it, but now with it larger context, it kind of reframes that story a bit in a way that just makes me feel gross inside. Innocent until proven guilty, but still disconcerting nonetheless. Great work here, and in general. I greatly admire your work on your channels.
Great work sir! It is of course a sadness to think that such a great writer could also be so despicable in his personal life. Yet this wouldn't be the first time we heard of such things from people we thought were great. I even remember how much I loved to listen to Bill Cosby's comedy records! Another one bites the dust! It is hard to separate the genius of the work and the person. I hope there is an ethical way to do it because I still love a lot of great art that came from a lot of terrible people. Maybe that's something you can talk about sometime? It's something I'm sure a lot of people are struggling with. Cheers! And.. Awesome job!
@StopFear I'm not sure why someone like you would read a polite comment like the one I left, and respond with a rude reply. Let me know what you specifically didn't like about my original comment, and then I can respond.
I wonder if Vern Troyer is involved. Seriously though, I love your channel. I watched everything on RUclips and that wasn't enough so I bought a bunch of videos from your website. I can't believe you don't have a million subs by now. Thanks for the great work!
Haha, had that thought while editing too. Wasn't consciously intended, though I had a good idea that was going to happen while recording and decided to just let it be the case.
It is obvious Leslie was Clarke´s gay partner. In 1998, when the Daily Mirror ran a three page article on Clarke´s paedophilia, Channel 4 broadcast a half an hour long programme and they interviewed rent boys that Clarke abused. I can tell you, it was uncomfortable to watch. The young guys used crude language. It was aweful to watch.
I was doubtful until Peter Troyer's story. It just fits, and has the ring of truth about it. Not sure I'm completely sold, but I'm starting to think it's possible.
I haven't watched the video yet, but years ago I did wonder if maybe Kubrick got weirded out by author Clark which inspired Kubrick to make the writer Jack Torrace into a completely disturbed character.
I always had the Idea that he made Jack Torrance an alcoholic because apparantly Stephen King himself had a drinking problem back then and that this is also a big reason he dislikes kubrick's shining so much.
@@agentorange7918Stephen King wrote the novel from his own experiences with alcoholism. It’s purposely self-flagellating. He just hates that Kubrick took a personal story and made a version more people like where Torrance is far less sympathetic.
@@josiahcmiller That was certainly the big reason King had so much disdain for Kubrick's version, along with the fact that Kubrick's version is much closer to Diane Johnson's novel (the co-screenwriter for the film) than King's, and Kubrick turned down King's script that he wrote and wouldn't collaborate with him because Kubrick only wanted to use "The Shining" as a jumping off point for the story he was looking to tell. Because in the end of King's story, Jack saves his family from the impending exploding boiler and is "redeemed" in the literary sense. In Kubrick's version, his young son puts his abusive, insane and murderous father out of his misery by tricking him into getting trapped and freezing to death. So if King considered himself as a type of "Jack Torrence" (as he was notoriously a terrible father to his first children, a fact he admitted openly many times) he would hope that the character would go out as a hero, and not a villain.
@@esyphillis101 I noticed that about King years ago and no one ever talks about it. Over and over he delights in describing horrible things happening to young boys in IT, The Stand, and other books.
31:00 What is inaccurate about those pages is that they use a photo of Mike Wilson on Leslie's profile--the exact same photo you shared at 12:41. It's a minor detail but I'm surprised you didn't point it out.
This is a very interesting topic. I have been hearing this rumour long since my first visit to Sri Lanka in the early 2000s. Heard things like little boys.
@@collativelearning Hi Rob yes the local villagers pointed out that there was a well known foreigner who owned the big house down there and there was constant stream of boys going in and out all hours of the night. I realised many years later who they were talking about.
If the allegations are true I would say it at least half-eclipses it. Frankly, his writings are overrated in terms of their perceived "insight into the future" value. There's a lot of fantasy in his work passing for scientific plausibility.
Riveting, absolutely riveting. I see Clarke as someone trapped inside their head, creating far away worlds that satisfy him whether in a novel or on an island. Deafening greatness mixed with silent tragedy.
I'm a Sri Lankan.. randomly found your channel. Clarke's homosexuality and his desire for young boys is a famous secret in Sri Lanka. Everybody knew it but nobody talked about it, because he was a sort of celebrity. We learnt about Clarke's scientific works in the school and people really respected him. I remember as a child we went on a school trip to the planetarium and they had a small museum full of Clarke's works. I remember, reading his 2001 space Odyssey and it got me really interested about astronomy. Of course at that time we didn't know about anything regarding his personal life, but many adults knew this. It was no secret.
Well, do you actually have any evidence of these allegations?
@@StopFear Yeah, his last name is Nadun.
His family and friends made him aware of Clarke during his youth.
He’s not indicting him he is just sharing.
Pederasty will most likely eventually become legal in Britain.
@@StopFear Watch the video.
@@david-spliso1928 That why T R in prison
I'll make a shocking allegation right now:
Rob Ager is an honest, hardworking and thoughtful researcher and commentator.
Paid shill
@@flyingnone633 What went wrong with your day?
@@Forbes780 He’s joking.
@@nevermore7373 Ok thx. Poor joke tho
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Love these long journalistic deep dives! One of the best YT vids I've seen in a while. Also, your setup is really cool. Nice to see someone who talks about movies without a background littered with Funko Pops, action figures and posters.
Oh ffs the funko pops. 🙈 in boxes 🙈
So dumb.. funko wastes of money & not cool products 🤣🤣🤣
Couldn't agree more!
Oh my god you're the first person to say that out loud. What the hell happened to Millennials? They all seem to be obsessed with covering their shelves with stupid toys that should only appeal to 10 year olds.
THAT'S why these videos seem so off!
Many thanks for this interesting video. I have to say, your approach on RUclips is a breath of fresh air. It’s nice to watch things that don’t make me feel like I have ADHD, with constant edits, loud voices etc.
Cheers. I deliberately avoid that style of presentation it bores the hell out of me too :)
@@roisglassco8986you're a groomer ☝️
Jeez if only actual journalists did this much research.
Why bother when they can cite unnamed sources and make it up
Here, I'll fix that for you: "journalists"
It's much easier to copy-paste a handful of tweets and call it a day before defending your ultimate bravery.
Seems like a lot of hearsay. Not denying it could be true, but unattributed sources and conspiratorial "they were trying to cover it up" or these "tabloid journalists are believable but the BBC weren't credible" along with the "missing" tape all point to yellow journalism that wouldn't pass muster in a court.
I think you’ll find that so-called “modern journalists” in the corporate media will only support stories as told by their governments.
You should have titled this video "The Mysterious World of Arthur C. Clarke"
Clarkes Monolithic Mistakes
That would be too brilliant, Rob would have thousands of thousands of people on YT and thee Internet in general going to look up the show and spend the next 2 'n' half hrs horrified
I think it’s pretty much a slam dunk case. He never really denied it because he never thought it was bad. But it actually was. He was clearly psychologically stunted. And you need to leave youngsters alone.
Before I even start watching this, I have to say I knew there was something at least a bit odd about Clarke since I read his book 3001:The Final Odyssey, in which it's strongely implied that scientists had sexual relationships with modified and trained Gorillas.
You ever tried to get a date in Sunderland ?
Who hasn't?
@@johngriffiths118 😂
Really WOW that's crazy beastiality is being played within our entertainment corners.
@@octagonseventynine1253 but, were they straight gorillas or gay ones?
A fantastic exposition and investigation. I had friends in Sri Lanka, in high society, and they all knew he was a p'phile and said it to me directly. I asked my then girlfriend who organised a meeting with him, through her contacts, at his house to talk about supporting a biodiversity expedition I was setting up in SL; and to get him to sign a few books. It is was an open secret. The locals in Colombo knew about it.
I keep hearing this ... too often to dismiss.
& You just believe random people on the internet do you? I see flawed logic.
@@Doctorgoatboy Obviously in tandum with the rest of the evidence, it means more. It's funny how people become incredibly dense when trying to rationalize their preconceptions.
@@Doctorgoatboy Logician, hit yourself! There's such a thing as a sum of evidence. No smoke without fire? No p*derasty without homosexuality?
@@Doctorgoatboy Nothing to say?
As a child, I watched Mysterious World, and I've always remembered that Arthur C. Clarke lived in Sri Lanka. It was part of his mysterious and creepy image. Pretty disturbing to learn he might have lived there for the legal access to underage...
"might" 😂 dupe
You don’t have legal access to underage in Sri Lanka. Or any country for that matter.
This is some impressive journalistic integrity. If only we had more do their due diligence.
This isn’t journalism. Rob is simply reading articles on the internet - that’s not journalism.
@@mossyashromancer4301 You have no idea we you’re talking about. You have no idea what journalism is, or what journalists do.
@@LemonsAndSalt69 A lot of it is reading articles from the net, yes, but there's a lot of extra information and connections I've gathered from diff sources. So there's a journalism element. In fact, most paid "journalists" pretty much copy and reword stories they receive from the major news outlets or newswire press agencies. Some of them might actually do a bit of leg work to get a new quote or two from a source.
@@collativelearning Lemons & Salt is correct. Journalism entails strategically omitting any salient, actionable, true information that might incriminate or impugn the reputation of powerful people or institutions to ensure that the journalist's access to said people can be preserved indefinitely, and professional status maintained in the manufacture of official history and state orthodoxy.
What Rob does is not beholden to access, nor to advertising dollars - in fact some of his videos have been obviously suppressed by the intelligence-linked site that hosts his work - so he is not the minion of editors captured by big money, intelligence agencies, nor governments. Therefore, it would be unfair, inaccurate, and effectively slander to call Rob a journalist. The more complimentary title might be Open Source Intelligence Presenter, Analyst or Interpreter.
What Rob does incorporates the spirit of the scientific method and indulges the intelligence of his audience. What journalists do amounts to shades of propaganda and advertising. Vastly different affairs.
Keep up the good work, Rob
@@LemonsAndSalt69 always funny when username corresponds to person's bad attitude
If I’m ever on trial for anything, I want Rob as my lawyer.
Definitely. He has a great way of presenting facts.
You wouldn't want someone who actually went to law school and has a license? Come on
@@ryancalhoun2910 I assume he was being whimsical with that statement.
@@LoneCloudHopper I hope so
My point was, Rob’s benefit of doubt is the size of hell and half of Georgia. 75/25? I was 100% convinced of his guilt about 13 pages into his article.
I had been wondering about this for a while. People had been throwing around strong accusations, but without any substance to back it up. Thanks a lot for this detailed, differentiated examination of evidence. This is the kind of reporting we need.
The kid wasn't sitting on his lap, he was sitting on the armrest of the chair. Lots of servants - providing income to many in a poor country? An ego chamber or just a collection of mementos of a life of achievement?
I was thinking about Jimmy Saville especially towards the end of your video with the amount of support he (& Clarke) received from the establishment and news outlets. His sense of overwhelming self superiority, his access to children, his influence over them as they were star struck too. His offers of help as Jimmy will Fix It etc (with Clarke financial "help"). It all started to resonate with me. I was also thinking throughout that reporters love a sensational story and apparently so do their readers, it put me off most of what you were saying about this reports up to about halfway through. My mind started to turn more after your point about of all the places in the world why sri lanka. A compelling and very well put together argument. Did i miss whether this had put you off any further work based around Clarke? Also thanks for the free download of your report. Take care Rob you have a very fair and logical mind.
It hasn't put me off any further work on clarke. Just needed to get this subject cleared up in my own mind, if no one else's. Have got lots of notes for new article or vid on Clarke in the future that will likely leave the allegations out.
@@collativelearning That great Rob, bought and read all your videos /articles on my favourite films like 2001 and The shining . I have felt in those films there was something more but couldn't put my finger on it or articulate it properly. Thanks for that.Truthstream media did an interesting recent video on The Shining . Cheers.
@@collativelearning UK broadsheet papers did interviews with Clarke in the early 2000s and hinted heavily that the young teen boys in his villa were not just there for decoration. Cant remember the paper unfortunately but remember reading it. Clarke used to opine frequently about problems with the age of consent - FW thats Worth. also he was notorious on the London gay scene as a pederast. And plus, check out the juxtaposition of Clarkes book and milk of magnesia plus toilet roll at the end of Spielberg's first film (Amblin)Spielberg was making a point, justified or not. the UK media reportage for me was convincing, they reported it as accepted fact.
@@powerbite92 What about milk of magnesia, a toilet roll, and Amblin? Could you elaborate more plz. I just looked at Wiki about that short film for some clues, but am still clueless.
Just wanted to write a comment to say I respect the tremendous amount of effort you must have put into this video. "Cheers" from the States.
Clarke was known for conceptualizing the 'geostationary communications satellite'. Amazing intellect has nothing to do with a high moral standing.
Interesting. I suppose if one is talented or insightful enough, it excuses everything else and they earn the benefit of the doubt by default.
If a fireman had a sex conviction, is he precluded from putting out your house fire? And if he saves your kids life, doesn't that get him a few points? Or should you wait until a nonpredator firefighter arrives?
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Sounding apologetic to pedos around here. I would argue they never should have been there in the first place and have been convicted or worse. I don't sympathize with predators.
The document you uploaded was fascinating. Looking forward to this
Gives "Childhoods End" a whole new meaning lol... I do believe Arthur was part of the "big elite" weirdo club though. That journalist that wrote "HACK" was spot on imo. Great vid! This club hates humans. Prince Philip once famously said "If I could come back as a deadly virus I would." If you read Julien Huxley you find the same disdain for humanity.
What honest person wouldn't hate Humans? Hello...
@@WoodysAR Did You Ever Meet An Honest Person???🤔
@@WoodysAR I Am Glad To See That Misanthropy Is Alive And Well!!! NO NOT REALLY!!!
@@WoodysAR Exactly!!! I Hate And I Have Bitter Unforgiveness And Utter Contempt For The People That Gang Raped And Sexually Abused Me When I Was A Teenager And The Teachers Who Should Have Known Better And Didn't Believe Me When I Told Them I Had Been Gang Raped, Those Teachers Just Turned A Blind Eye To What Happened And Didn't Take Responsibility And Any Action For One Of Their Students That Had Been Sexually Abused!!! 😭😭😭
Prince Phillip Did Come Back As 'The Covid-19 Plandemic'!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
i love Rob's non judgemental and unbiased approach to difficult topics such as this one while being critically accurate at the same time. Man's on a level
There are times when I've disagreed with things Rob has said, but I like how he goes about his videos, research, etc, and that's why I continue to watch his videos. He's a good hombre, as far as I'm concerned.
as always, your coverage is fascinating. Kudos for being able to talk sense for 2 hours straight.
Who doesn't want an Ego Chamber, if I were successful I would have one too.
I've been following you since 2008/09 on yoiutube. You are one of the best, if not the best, investigative journalist / analyst. If you switched from covering horror films to horrors of reality, you would open a lot of eyes.
Agreed. I love these kinds of videos just as much as his film analysis.
The bit in Eyes Wide Shut when Bill goes to the mansion by day and stands by the gates, and a black car pulls up at the gate and a man gets out and hands Bill a note warning him not to pursue his investigations - that man is a representation of Arthur C Clarke.
Holy cow I can totally see it now and I can't believe I never made that connection. Did Kubrick fall out with clarke over the latter's perversions?
This is when separating the art from the artist comes in handy
I disagree. This shines a light on some of the intention and ideology behind the art, which leads to a better understanding of what paths or justifications its appreciation may lead to.
@@iknowyouarh Could you elaborate a little further on what you mean by that?
@@ryancalhoun2910 I just mean that an artists ideology isn't always wholly separate from the art they create, no matter how "good" it is. It may not always be as black and white as straight propaganda. Rob even mentions in the video how Clarke's elitism comes across in his work. Some would say that is not an ideology you want to promote as "good". That doesn't detract from it being creative and artistic, just something to call out.
@@iknowyouarh Pederasty is not an ideology. That isn't to say it isn't extremely disturbing but it isn't an ideology.
@@ryancalhoun2910 intention mindset, way of thinking, whatever
My mom was a big fan of 2001 and Arthur C Clarke. She mentioned to me one time in the 80s that she read where he was messing around with kids in Sri Lanka and she lost a lot of respect for him because of it.
Long time fan here. Glad to see you reached 200k subs! I've been watching your stuff since almost a decade ago.
After watching your very good video on Arthur C. Clarke it made me wonder if Clarke and Lord Mountbatten were friendly? Both sharing the same predilection for boys of a darker skin tone .
I raised my eyebrows at 'Otter aquatic club'. An 'otter' is gay slang for a young fit man I've unfortunately learned from the Internet.
An otter in that context is an adult who is of slender pathetic build with facial hair and body hair. Like slim version of a bear. So not a child at all. Generally speaker children don't have beards.
Of the many things I admire about your work, Mr. Ager, is how you are willing to be inconclusive. If only more researchers where willing to admit to that.
I feel so bad for kids in this world. Hard not to despair a lot of the time
I hate that people wants kids so bad but when they have them, they get stressed out and want to abuse and hurt them. Feels wrong on so many levels that we need to do better as a society.We need to better communication besides getting some all the time.
The point is that OP collected information AND THEN reported and is still open to being wrong. Take notes, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, etc.
Keep Faith.
@garyallen8824 'In this world' applies to other eras and continents.
I wasn't sure if I was going to watch something this heavy before going to bed but I did. You do great film analysis but you also cover things like the Neverland documentary (which you mentioned) and the pros and cons of Deepfakes. Well presented, impeccable research and fair. Personally, I found the Troyer letter very convincing. On a side note, and it might seem silly, small things like closing the curtains or putting on a light reinforce your relatability. Others would have made a cut and stuck to the presentation. Small things like that are very refreshing. As I said, silly, but... I think people will get me. Amazing work and have a great 2023.
Thank you for taking the time to cover a controversial and touchy subject. He was a brilliant writer but he was also more than that. Some good - some bad. All people are a balance of good and bad behavior and trying to discuss them in as honest and accurate a way as possible is important.
Good Lord, 'some good, some bad'? Seriously? In all probability, Arthur C. Clarke had sex with kids--poverty-stricken children in a poor country renowned for its sex tourism. Clarke sodomized them, violated them, raped them. You seem morally crippled, so let me help you out: They're kids, okay? Using kids as fungible sex toys is vile, evil, horrible beyond measure.
@@troyriser8074 Seems like you understand what happened. You don't understand though. I thanked our narrator for sharing the good and the bad - which doesn't happen anymore. Neither side should be hidden and the truth should be put out there. And before you throw stones at others with wild and uncontrolled emotions calm yourself and think. I worked with these people at a level 5 prison for 12 years. You may want points for being the most outraged but I was the guy that shut the door to thousands of these people every day. Save your theatrics. Do what our narrator did and share the truth of this man's story so other's know that monsters can create beautiful things. Life isn't black and white. Brilliance doesn't equal morality.
@@angrydrunkengerman2819 There aren't fucking 'shades of gray' when the topic is the rape of children. Working as a prison guard, while an honorable profession, doesn't grant you some kind of moral authority in this or any other argument.
@@angrydrunkengerman2819 I would like to have read @Troy Riser comment but unfortunately CL decided to delete it before I could make my own mind up.
@@thegafferlives You can figure it out. I didn't show enough anger and venom for obviously despicable behavior for him. And frankly people would be shocked if they knew how pervasive this problem is. It's pretty much been standard practice for musicians for years.
I had never heard these rumors before, as I've never been a fan of Clarke's and thus haven't paid attention to news stories about him. But after watching your video, I agree with the 75% learning towards true conclusion. The move to Sri Lanka is very suggestive. Also, the Troyer story is a bombshell, especially as the entire community Clarke lived in was apparently wary of letting their children around him. Not surprising, if Clarke was so predatory as to strip naked a child he had met only minutes ago. Good grief.
Yeah there are too many red flags. When we must theorize an elaborate conspiracy to try to explain away all the allegations from lots of different people, the simple explanation becomes plausible. Goes to the saying: "If you smell crap everywhere you go, check your shoe."
What do you mean by "I agree with the 75% learning toward the true conclusion"? What does that mean?
Clarke was a very early adopter of email and personal computers, somewhat famously doing most of the collaboration on "2010" remotely in the early 1980s. And even in the 1960s he was publicly stating that this revolution in communications, the ability to work from anywhere, was coming soon. So perhaps that (correct) belief in future technology makes his decision to move away somewhat more logical.
To be fair, that also possibly helped him work far away from prying eyes who might have noticed he was.....yeah.
He moved to Sri Lanka long before there was anything like the Internet, though. Overseas phone calls cost a small fortune in those days.
No. Nope he wanted chicken butt.
I am a big fan of 2001 and I remember in the late 1980s reading this very book. I was interested in reading the novel and also finding out the differences between the film and the book. It was fascinating how they were different in places and how AC Clarke disagreed with SC and wrote what he wanted.
I already read the PDF you wrote on your “community” page; not a pleasant read 😢. I can understand you being more convinced of Clarke’s guilt than his innocence.
Aside from those “embarrassing” diaries, I wonder what other evidence/ irrefutable proof that Clarke is guilty will become public.
Back in the very late nineties or possibly very early noughties I was on a conference arranged by a commercial Satellite organisation and during one of the breaks, in conversation with another delegate, I was made aware of the rumors which were then quite recent.
You’ve made a very thorough presentation Rob, perhaps you’re familiar with the (updated) authorized biography by Neil McAleer which to me strongly suggested that ACC was gay and hinted at the two main male relationships in his life without naming particular details.
I think I’ve read all ACC’ s Sci-fi books and some non-fiction as well and whether the allegations are true, false or somewhere in between, I think some points bear elaborating:
When ACC moved to Sri Lanka he was not particular wealthy. His wealth and fame really first came as a consequence of 2001 the movie being a commercial success. Until then he was a moderately successful author desperately wishing for one of his books being adapted to film. Perhaps he did move there partly to escape the stigma of being a gay man in a country where being gay was illegal.
Some of the negative comments about ACC having multiple servants I find irrelevant. In poor countries as an expat you were expected to hire some locals thereby providing them with an income. If you did not, you were not accepted,
As another poster pointed out I feel the “ego-room” discussion is pure character assasination; Recording artists and producers display their accolades and awards, sports legends their trophies, physicists their Nobels, actors and directors their Oscars etc - not necessarily to prop up their ego but as mementos of achievements, discussion points with visitors or, if these displays are gifts they are on display to avoid embarrassment if the giver comes visiting and asks “where is that certificate/plague/figurine we gave you”.
I do think Mrs. Lambert’s article reads like a smear piece. She clearly didn’t like the man, for which reason we don’t know, but that is irrelevant.
Some of the “reporting” where allegations are repeated by different sources to me indicate a possible plain reuse or rehash of the original Mail piece, with no separate, Independent journalistic effort involved.
Probably not available, but a more detailed chronology of the allegations would be very interesting - especially in light of ACC’s affliction from Polio.
One thing I am surprised you did not bring up is the fact that ACC was stricken with polio in 1962, and confirmed suffering from post-polio syndrome in 1988. Shortly thereafter severely dependent on a wheel-chair for the rest of his life.
This ties somewhat into the unfurnished bedroom which could be interpreted as the necessity for an increasingly immobile, wheel chair bound elderly person to be helped in and out of his wheel chair, being properly cared for, ease of cleaning, access to bed etc. If you ever watched someone dying from old age and failing health, the lasting images are of the personal stuff being removed to give way to more and more medical equipment. Once the person dies and the medical equipment is then taken away this leaves the room very bare and very impersonal. His bedroom was very likely his hospital room during the latter stages of his life and was perhaps redecorated to repair marks and damages from, orthopedic tools, winches, lifts and similar appliances.
I did spot the gay/bi-theme in Songs of Distant Earth, and if I remember correctly there was a reference to a kinky scene between consenting adults in Ghost from the Grand Banks. By today’s standards, or even back then, hardly controversial.
Some have mentioned weird passages on sex in his books. Please note that most of this is most likely accreditable to Gentry Lee, co-author on the dreadful Rama sequels and the equally abysmal Cradle. Lee was apparently brought in to add “characterisation” to the novels to make up for Clarke’s deficiencies in that regard.
I believe it is well accepted that the collaborations with other authors during the latter years of ACC’s authorship were increasingly necessary because Clarke’s mental facilities deteriorated to a point where he was unable to write. McAleer’s biography hints at a decline over time but without more detailed information everything is speculation.
Well, did he or didn’t he? I don’t know.
Some good points / possibilities included there I wasn't aware of, thanks.
God, I actually read cradle: Warms my heart knowing I wasn't the only one who hated it.
Thank-you for writing this very sensible counterpoint. There are rumours, hearsay, and maybe/possibly some truth in there, but I feel we have to be very careful in making assumptions and thereby making a fact out of them.
Rob is like a best friend. I don’t always agree with him but he’s good to hang out with.
Are you saying you disagree with his conclusions? If you do I'd be curious as to why.
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I don’t think he means this video specifically but just in general, to which I agree.
I’m not _always_ on Rob’s page, but he’s such a fascinating guy to listen to, and he almost always presents a very strong and nuanced argument, so I can’t fault his opinions, I just disagree with them. He hated Blade Runner: 2049 for example, I happen to really like that film, simply a matter of taste.
@@horrorfanandy4647 That's a fair view.
The thing about Rob that I'm not always a fan of is I think he likes too many movies lol. There's a lot of films he's done analysis of and given tons of praise that I really don't care for (including the first Blade Runner movie. I personally hate Blade Runner original or sequel)
I so recall reading somewhere that cops of the day noted there was a lot correspondence between US NAMBLA types and ACC.
Thank you for making this. Brilliant analysis and thank you for including captions, wish more people did it. Off to explore more of your videos
If you read his book " A view from Serendip " you get some insights as to his life in Ceylon, Sri Lanka. He had a house there with servants, mostly men. He treated them well. Nothing from his writings or rumours of him having any questionable activities with them. If he did he kept it well hidden.
2:15:28 I think Hector was saying, in his broken English, that the person who'd come for help would wait in the library until Arthur arrived from his bedroom... not that Hector would sit in the library until Arthur and the person who'd come for help came out of the bedroom together.
Yes I may have misheard that and a few others have mentioned it here. I still ask though, who was coming to Clarke locally for "help", what kind of help did they want and what was in it for Clarke? Thanks.
I never dug into the case that deeply, I came across a website that gave a virtual tour of Clarke's house.
I'd agree that there's enough stories to support the idea that Clarke did reside in Sri Lanka for the sex tourism aspect.
I think the equatorial climate would be too hot in Sri Lanka, not sure how good air conditioning was in the 1950s.
You can get used to hot weather. On the other hand, you can't get used to sub-freezing weather. Rather, you have to bundle up, stay dry, and eat a lot to maintain warmth. Otherwise you'll eventually suffer a lot of harm to your body up to and including death.
First, I am grateful and respectful of your work. I am impressed by your analysis of movies, and was also impressed by your comments on " Leaving Neverland." This felt like a fair breakdown. I have learned not to put people on pedestals. However this was sad for me to hear. I grew up with the books of Arthur C. Clarke and always held him in admiration. I also recall watching him as a TV presenter. It is like finding out about the allegations of Bill Cosby. Thanks for the integrity you strive for.
Daily mail did an article on me and a tragedy that occurred. it was mostly lies and complete distortion. This deep dive you are doing is very sobering and valid
that publication is an utterly repugnant stain on journalism and human decency. I had to force them to admit they were faking DWP figures to the public and get a retraction. Trying to stir hatred with total lies.
@@Camille_Anderson much of that comes from the top. Paul Dacre comes over as just about the most unpleasant’person’ I’ve ever come across. A “man of the people” with a gigantic house and thousands of acres of Scottish countryside. There’s nothing inclusive about him. It was nice to see his true unpleasantness exposed by Leveson.
Updated thoughts on Sri Lanka laws (spent a bit of time looking into it today):
--- I do believe the human rights campaigners' assertions that underage boys would've been held as legally responsible as the adult perverts was true in the past. The original 1883 Penal Code for Sri Lanka had limited wording, defining sexual crimes as involving ones against "women" and "girls", not boys. Instead, that kind of thing falls under "Unnatural offences" involving "males" because Sri Lanka hated homosexuality, it was considered a crime in itself full stop. So the wording there was too broad, and the punishment back then involved whipping. Ouch! And this Penal Code was not amended AT ALL until 1993! Yeah, really dodgy.
--- The article by Ceylon Today which said that sex with underage boys not being prohibited is a very serious accusation from the journalist. Looking into the actual amended Penal Codes of Sri Lanka since the 1990s, I think criminalisation of sex with underage boys does exist by implication, "child" being defined as "any persons under the age of 18". But still, various research papers (not just the ones featured in Rob's article) showed sexual abuse of boys as being more common than abuse of girls even to this day, which to me indicates that the police still aren't as stringent in practice.
--- This is a shocking revelation when I realised it, Sri Lanka has still not yet criminalised adult male on male rape! The clauses on rape crimes in the actual amended legalisation only define the victims of those crimes as "women", not any persons. And a Wiki page on homosexuality in Sri Lanka says human rights organisations are aware of this problem. My god, Sri Lanka has been atrociously IRRESPONSIBLE with its laws over the years! And yet my sister said she enjoyed her stay there last year!
Cheers. Always great input from you :)
The problem here is similar to many other jurisdictions, countries etc. and that is when corruption infiltrates the various authorities (police, judicial system, political powers that be, etc) then, regardless of what is written or implied in laws, the ACTUAL implementation of said laws will be severely compromised.
The fact that this is so fair-minded is devastating. Such a shame. I was a massive fan of Arthur C. Clarke when I was younger.
You still can be a fan of his work:
Separate the art from the artist.
@@danjonmills Absolutely.
I've just got to the end and this is fucking stellar, for lack of a better word, journalism. This is the standard and he's not even a journalist. top quality stuff.
Thank you Rob Ager, watched the whole thing. Great video as always.
I am grateful for this video. I love how you are usually so fair minded about examining both sides of every case. I wonder how much Kubrick knew about this.
Heh. I was thinking of Kubrick when Rob mentioned one of the characters in Sri Lanka was named "Tony" who was the name of the secret friend in The Shining.
From what is known of Stanley Kubrick, I don't think that he had the kind of people skills that would have caused him to catch on to any cues that Clarke might have inadvertently showed around him.
Clarke himself would say we must go with the probabilities.
I’ve just read your 43 page report on this, and you probably won’t see this comment, but I wanted to thank you for such an in-depth, balanced investigation into something I had no idea about (until reading your piece).
2001 is my most favorite film (and one of my favorite things, in general), so I was/am pretty massively disappointed in learning this, though I’m by no means surprised.
It doesn’t change my love for 2001 (which I, as a woman of color, consider to be a problematic fave in and of itself…….given everyone’s white and the women are essentially decorations 😂).
It’s important for us not to glorify those who create the things we love, to the point where we are blind to their faults, and I thank you for reminding me of this. And now I can’t wait to see your analysis on 2001!
Why does liking a piece of art “problematic”? If you’re attracted to it, then it’s good. I’m a black man and I love this dudes content. Your race isn’t your personality, remember. Despite the Eurocentric paradigm trying to persuade you otherwise.
@@nevermore7373🫷nope. Not today.
@@PizzaCat42069 So much for ‘poc’ allegiance, right? Have a nice day.
There was a British general, Hector MacDonald, busted for this kind of stuff back in the early 1900s. He ended up self-deleting.
Alot of the British establishment were at it and still are.
I thought Asimov was the big name SF writer from that era who had a dark side; I had no idea about Clarke.
It's very important that we ridicule ALL successful figures of the past ... because we have none today.
I'm not sure how many times one can find instances of accusations for a guy who clearly had a sham marriage and moved to a country lenient on pedophilia. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Not an uncommon tale unfortunately.
Sometimes there's just smoke
@@stevencoardvenice yeah, in magic shows
@@palehorse1111 Many people have been falsely accused of things based on ignorance and a bigoted use of "no smoke without fire," that's the problem with neat little sayings, they are used to make generalisations seem universally true.
Actually let me ask you in response. How many times? You claim that it is a lot. Can you provide any evidence for this? Wouldn't that automatically make any westerner a suspect for pedophilia just for taking any trip to Thailand, Sri Lanka, or any of these places you refer to? I mean, yes, many would go there for sex tourism. But you could easily accuse them of anything. How could any of them defend themselves when facing such an accusation? Its like you imply they are all guilty by default.
@@StopFear That's exactly how these sh((heads like it. Proof is difficult, FEELZ are easy. Just look at Johnny Depp, his whole career got ruined because of FEELZ held by sub-human scum. Took years for him to clear his name and even now some hardcore haters don't accept the evidence.
"according to the World Health Organization, Sri Lanka had the world's highest age-standardized suicide rate in 2015, with 34.6 suicides per 100,000 people in the population, the highest rate in the world. An unusually high number of suicides and acts of self-harm arise in the setting of interpersonal confrontations and family disagreements." - Wiki
Interesting subject , and one that can’t be swept under the carpet anymore . Thanks Rob xxx
Like any other case of this, apparent protection, apparent network, and not exposed truly until years after death
This video is brilliant Rob. Please make more long form videos like this where you go into areas beyond film (not that I don't love your film criticism, but it's interesting to see more unusual topics like this )
Pretty sure that kid is sitting on the arm of the chair, not a knee.
Love the wonderful research Rob. Wish the volume was up
Weird, I actually doubled the volume in the edit before rendering.
Might want to turn your hearing aids up Billy
This is a very very well put together and well spoken video. Stay unbiased like you already are, my friend
Just one point where you went off the rails, in the television interview clip the story was about visitors being given books to read while they waited for Clarke to come out of his bedroom, not reading books waiting for visitors to come out of his bedroom
Only once. Not bad for 2 hrs 20 mins eh ;)
Hey Rob have you have you ever played Soma? It's a good horror scenario dealing with transhumanist themes. I think it's up your alley
I visited Sri Lanka many times in the late 90's/early 2000's due to work. I never met Clarke (although I did try, as I was a fan of his writing) but the locals always spoke of him and Ekanayake as a married couple, it was also 'well known' that he liked his rent boy visits, and he liked them young. I didn't see any of this first hand, so it could well just be a good story for the 'tourist' but I think there is more truth than not in it.
I love this thoughtful long-form exploration of a subject, please consider doing more.
I’ve seen this footage of him admitting to having teenage rent boys. Saw it on norwegian tv back in the 90’s. He was saying that by paying these boys for sex he was actually helping them. I’ve never seen this footage since then. Been trying to find it online. No trace of it.
@garyallen8824No! It was in english😄
How sure are you? If true most journalists would know of this.
@@bookeblade well, I’ve never really familiarized myself with his work, but knew his name from a quote on a Amiga 500 demo called “Global Trash” by the group Silents. I’ve definitely seen this interview. He was quite frank and unapologetic about it. I’m sorry that I cannot give you any more info. But I do remember that he resided in Sri Lanka.
Ironic how Kubrick tried to expose this in Eyes Wide Shut
It seems conspicuous that both Arthur and his brother in their responses to the allegations put forward the exact same argument that he wasn't physically capable of doing these things currently despite the fact the allegations were very obviously about things he had done in the past, not things he was doing now. Either neither of these two presumably well educated men were capable of basic reading comprehension or they were deliberately trying to mislead people about what the actual allegations were.
Hmmm.... so 2+2 = 5, right?
Although fresh accusations were still being made-so he could have been denying those in large part. I do wonder just how severe Clarke's physical limitations were in reality in early 1998. In 1993/1994 he filmed the third of his ITV series on the mysterious that began airing in July 1994 & was moving fine when he was shooting standing scenes. In March 1997-a year before the allegations he was interviewed by Roger Ebert on camera & albeit he was sitting down the entire time, he looked in good health & was freely able to move his arms & that is all an abuser needs-the use of his arms & hands, especially a rich & famous one who can lure children to their property & don't have to physically snatch them off the streets.
When I was a kid there was this creepy book about ghosts and other phenomena sitting on my attic from A.C. Clark; I was intrigued but those images have haunted my entire childhood. Thank you for the clarifacition.
Great, in depth analysis Rob. I was vaguely aware, but hearing the details is horrifying.
A case of finding out a person you admired and respected turns out to be an unrepentant monster, there's just too much evidence to dismiss.
Never meet your heroes, admire the art, not the artist.
A lesson taught in the Pixar movie _Up,_ in the sub-plot of Charles Muntz the "great explorer," and total creep, idolized by main character Carl Fredricksen since he was a ten-year-old.
Never have strangers as your heroes, my mom was my heroine, I can celebrate and criticise her, because I do know well both her good and bad,
The potential symbolism in "Childhood's End," once you hear these allegations, makes me sick to my stomach.
More innocently, I always assumed he was either homosexual or sexual based on how poorly he wrote male attraction/reaction to women.
I wouldn't trust anything from the tabloids less so when Piers Morgan is the editor
American failed presidential candidate John Edwards would want to agree with you. However it was the tabloid that exposed his corruption when the “real“ media wouldn’t.
@@GenX_Catholic You're obviously not familiar with Piers Morgan's history
Morgan makes me feel physically sick.
@@nihilistlivesmatter Piers Morgan is a bad interviewer glad CNN get rid of him what a terrible replacement for Larry King R.I.P
@@Thespeedrap That's not the half of it, his paper hacked a murdered girls mobile phone, & staged photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners.
Ever wonder why he turned up in the US? because he was toxic byond the pale over here in the UK.....I can't believe people think he'e rehabilitated because he call out Meghan Markle & her wife
Wonderful work Rob, keep em' coming!!
Should be no surprise Clarke was able to fly under the radar while he was over there in Sri Lanka. Jimmy Savile managed it while here in the UK while he rubbed shoulders with the great and glorious!
Thank you for your essay, excellent work about a subject I had no idea about.
A very well researched video relating to a very sordid and difficult topic.
Whenever I hear a proponent of 'Transhumanism' (i e Arthur C Clarke) allegations like this are never far behind.
I can't imagine how hard it was to put together such a well researched article, Kudos.
I've heard about Arthur C Clarke dodgy past.
My friend from a city in Sri Lanka, it was Galle? told me about it, when I had quite naive thoughts about A. C. Clarke, but he called him "mostly hebephile".
Art Clarke: "Hey, kid. Wanna see Childhood's End?"
Sri Lankan Rentboy: "Mr.Clarke, I didn't know there was a movie!"
Art Clarke: "I mean, we can film it, if you want."
Art is subjective.
This one made me laugh:
Rentboy: "Mr. Clarke, what are you doing with that big black monolith?"
Art Clarke: "I'm going to bury it in your moon until you reach a certain age."
Rentboy: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
I got to meet and speak a little with Clarke twice. (One of my literary heroes) Once in the 70s when he came and guest lectured at Chico State University in Chico California, (I was in High School, but played hooky that day to go hear him speak with a friend.), and years later got to exchange words with him by a late night Satellite/Internet connection at a Science Fiction Convention I attended in the Pacific Northwest around the turn of the Century. (I attended many SF Conventions up and down the Region across 3 states so I can't remember the exact Date or which Con this was at... Probably a BayCon in San Jose California)
He was very polite and Congenial. He was a part of 1930's Science Fiction Fan Circles in Britain, and was given the nickname "Ego Clarke" by fellow fans. So the "Ego Room" I sense is actually a Joke reference to his roots in SF Fandom from his youth. I was entering semi-organized SF Fandom BEFORE "Star Wars" Or the "Star Trek" revival period. I remember being made fun of, and even socially Ostracized because of my interest in SF and Fantasy Literature, movies, and culture. And my interest in Space exploration. This tended to make many SF Fans a little stand offish and disassociated from the wider Pop culture. (I am also Autistic on the Aspergers spectrum, which didn't help.)
Many authors (And artists) I know and have seen their writing spaces, have a variation of Clarkes "Ego Room". Where they keep their own books that have been published, or awards and letters. Some don't but might be less organized about it and have boxes of their works or memorabilia.
Many creatives do this, often I think it actually serves as a Reminder that they need to ADD to it. Especially for Writers, "Writers Block" is a real terror, and any mechanism that can help to fight it off has to be used. Not everyone is an Asimov, who would spew constant text like a broken lawn faucet. (In my boxed archives I even have a letter from HIM!)
Very sad to hear about this terrible behavior on his part. It makes me wonder if he might have been molested by a family or area pedophile when he was a minor, as often this mental disorder is perpetuated from Childhood experience of the same transgressions. That emotional trauma can become locked in at the age of the attack, which could explain the terrible lack of judgement about how often, and open, the perpetrators are about their behaviors. Especially by someone as obviously brilliant as Clarke was. Not as much "Privilege" as it is BLINDNESS.
Our stupid Sexual Organs seem to be placed there to get us all into trouble.
Nice post. As I watched this piece I had this strange feeling that Clarke surrounded himself with people and things not out of ego but loneliness and maybe emptiness.
1:44:30 the BBC article seems to be more about covering Prince Charles than trying to really dig into the issue.
It does.
Charles is now King so I just wonder how he's going to rule since being raised privilege since first being born.
Wonder if Arthur knew Charlie's brother Andrew & if Randy Andy was a visitor to Sri Lanka?
Utterly amazing episode Rob!
Arthur C. Clarke
Jimmy Savile
Lord Mountbatten.
All friends and mentors to the man who now sits on the throne.
You Forgot Jeffrey Epstein!!!🤔
@@AndrewHillis_2024 Oh yes, how could that one slip my memory?
@@timleopardxolo We Could Also Add To The List Of 'Notable Nonces' And Pederastrists:- Gary Glitter, Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris, Max Clifford, Jonathan King And Wilfrid Bramble And Quite Possibly Science Fiction Author Arthur C. Clarke Who Is Alleged/Accused Of Pederasty (Having Sex With Pubescent Rent Boys In Sri Lanka) However I Don't Think Any Of These 'Notable Nonces' Are In The Same League As Jeffrey Epstein And Jimmy Savile???🤔
I had no idea about these claims. I thought Childhood's End was a fascinating read that I enjoyed at the time that I read it, but now with it larger context, it kind of reframes that story a bit in a way that just makes me feel gross inside. Innocent until proven guilty, but still disconcerting nonetheless. Great work here, and in general. I greatly admire your work on your channels.
Great work sir! It is of course a sadness to think that such a great writer could also be so despicable in his personal life. Yet this wouldn't be the first time we heard of such things from people we thought were great. I even remember how much I loved to listen to Bill Cosby's comedy records! Another one bites the dust! It is hard to separate the genius of the work and the person. I hope there is an ethical way to do it because I still love a lot of great art that came from a lot of terrible people. Maybe that's something you can talk about sometime? It's something I'm sure a lot of people are struggling with. Cheers! And.. Awesome job!
Did you even watch the entire video before commenting?
@StopFear I'm not sure why someone like you would read a polite comment like the one I left, and respond with a rude reply. Let me know what you specifically didn't like about my original comment, and then I can respond.
I wonder if Vern Troyer is involved. Seriously though, I love your channel. I watched everything on RUclips and that wasn't enough so I bought a bunch of videos from your website. I can't believe you don't have a million subs by now. Thanks for the great work!
I agree Rob..the narcissism evident in Clarke is so similar to Jimmy Saville
Happy New Year Rob Sir looking forword to your content this year.
Was the light getting darker during the video a subliminal metaphor? ;)
Haha, had that thought while editing too. Wasn't consciously intended, though I had a good idea that was going to happen while recording and decided to just let it be the case.
It is obvious Leslie was Clarke´s gay partner. In 1998, when the Daily Mirror ran a three page article on Clarke´s paedophilia, Channel 4 broadcast a half an hour long programme and they interviewed rent boys that Clarke abused. I can tell you, it was uncomfortable to watch. The young guys used crude language. It was aweful to watch.
Do you have a source. I've never come across those videos.
I was doubtful until Peter Troyer's story. It just fits, and has the ring of truth about it. Not sure I'm completely sold, but I'm starting to think it's possible.
Wow. Flummoxed by this piece. Thank you for this!
I haven't watched the video yet, but years ago I did wonder if maybe Kubrick got weirded out by author Clark which inspired Kubrick to make the writer Jack Torrace into a completely disturbed character.
I always had the Idea that he made Jack Torrance an alcoholic because apparantly Stephen King himself had a drinking problem back then and that this is also a big reason he dislikes kubrick's shining so much.
@@agentorange7918Stephen King wrote the novel from his own experiences with alcoholism. It’s purposely self-flagellating. He just hates that Kubrick took a personal story and made a version more people like where Torrance is far less sympathetic.
@@josiahcmiller That was certainly the big reason King had so much disdain for Kubrick's version, along with the fact that Kubrick's version is much closer to Diane Johnson's novel (the co-screenwriter for the film) than King's, and Kubrick turned down King's script that he wrote and wouldn't collaborate with him because Kubrick only wanted to use "The Shining" as a jumping off point for the story he was looking to tell.
Because in the end of King's story, Jack saves his family from the impending exploding boiler and is "redeemed" in the literary sense. In Kubrick's version, his young son puts his abusive, insane and murderous father out of his misery by tricking him into getting trapped and freezing to death. So if King considered himself as a type of "Jack Torrence" (as he was notoriously a terrible father to his first children, a fact he admitted openly many times) he would hope that the character would go out as a hero, and not a villain.
Stephen King is also a friend of Epstein and went to his island. He also appears to have a weird thing for children in his novels.
@@esyphillis101 I noticed that about King years ago and no one ever talks about it. Over and over he delights in describing horrible things happening to young boys in IT, The Stand, and other books.
31:00 What is inaccurate about those pages is that they use a photo of Mike Wilson on Leslie's profile--the exact same photo you shared at 12:41. It's a minor detail but I'm surprised you didn't point it out.
This is a very interesting topic. I have been hearing this rumour long since my first visit to Sri Lanka in the early 2000s. Heard things like little boys.
Did you hear the rumour in Sri Lanka?
@@collativelearning Hi Rob yes the local villagers pointed out that there was a well known foreigner who owned the big house down there and there was constant stream of boys going in and out all hours of the night. I realised many years later who they were talking about.
Great in depth video Rob! 👍I never knew anything about this.
But his light side far surpasses his dark side.
If the allegations are true I would say it at least half-eclipses it. Frankly, his writings are overrated in terms of their perceived "insight into the future" value. There's a lot of fantasy in his work passing for scientific plausibility.
@@collativelearning That is why it is called Science Fiction, not Scientific Fact.
A new video from Rob Ager. Nothing could make my night better...
Riveting, absolutely riveting.
I see Clarke as someone trapped inside their head, creating far away worlds that satisfy him whether in a novel or on an island. Deafening greatness mixed with silent tragedy.
Rob, I appreciate your investigation. Never seen any information as this before.
Good work.