@@donnyv4750 It does actually... I lost to Lyney's bow br getting Arlecchino's bow, so i got a bow for Tighnari now I tested btw both builds and the only difference i noticed was like 3-4k difference in charge shots though
If your talking Tighnari, Slingshot is good on him (better than most 4 stars) but not better than most 5 star dps bows. You should run those before Slingshot if you have them, if not, then go with Slingshot. Sethos, the other hand, performs best with Slingshot unless you have a Hunters Path lying around.
Kuki (drains her owns HP) was released in 2.7, but the dynamic of HP increase/decrease was introduced to us only in Fontaine (4.0). ER increase/decrease might be introduced in 6.0😂
@@S22GAMEING22 Fishl does not really want EM. She often is run with Stringless because of it's passive that buffs burst and skill damage not because of the EM stat
@@kamicokrolock Em does help aggravate dmg, it is by no means negligible. It just has actual diminishing returns so any more than what Stringless gives is less valuable than atk would be
Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:23 How to get the Cloudforged 01:11 Cloudforged Overview 02:42 Sethos 03:31 Tighnari 04:36 Yoimiya 06:08 Amber (Kinda) 06:46 Final Thoughts
you forgot Faruzan with Shimenawa ...any Anemo Character wants to have decent good amounts of EM for their Swirls which scale alot with EM and their Level, her E skill has also a relative short cool down that it shoudl trigger shimenawa fast enough to get the EM buff of the bow twice, before the first effect ends as the buff lasts for 18s, her E skill has a cooldown of 6s, so you have 12s of where you have the full buff with her.. plus, alone the weapons name and design totally screams optically like its THE weapon designed for her in mind
I guess? I wouldn't really use Faruzan as a DPS though. I think her most popular build as a support is already good enough with Veridescent Venerer with a heavy focus on ER. Paired with a Favonius warbow for a lot ER for her own burst sustain but being a battery for her entire team (lowering their ER needs) is huge. Also when you use her in this build then the Elemental Mastery is not even needed at all, she just needs to proc the Swirl, the damage it does isn't as important as that's up to your main DPS to more than make up for. Aesthetics wise? Sure if you want.
@@irispark1381 sure, because most people dont need too, because they whale and have naturally better options, the point of mentioning Faruzan was simply to point onto thev fact, that people could potentially have the option to play Faruzan with that bow in a more versatiel different way, than only building her as support for Wanderer/Xiangyun/Xiao/Kazuha ect.
Bro how can u forgot about Ganyu 💀 She has a short e skill cool down and she can absolutely use shimenawa set I think other sethos ganyu can fully utilise this because she doesn't want to use her burst anyways in melt
Lol these comments are funny. I can forget because I'm human, last time I checked, humans make mistakes. What gets annoying is when people act like I made the biggest mistake in the world because I forgot one character. That's why I literally say in the description if there's any other characters that can use this weapon, let me know! Sorry I can't remember every single character in a roster of 85 playable characters. Thank you for character suggestion though, it does work well as a 4 star weapon for Melt Ganyu.
You should also keep in mind that if you have Sethos at c6, then this bow's effect will be of no use to him, because his c6 makes it so that you don't drain energy when using his charged attack. So perhaps even more niche.🤷♂️
tighnari actually can get 2 stacks from bow passive as getting a new stack refreshes previous stack duration to 18s as well, so you just need to burst within 18s of tighnaris previous burst to get/keep full stacks slingshot should still better tho
Slingshot gives you at least 300 less Em and sethos want so much Em and if you build him dps you surely want an Em weapon othewise you ll have to go for Em circlet which makes it worse -he does reactions and scales on Em so its better than atk
For Hyberbloom sure, but the large increase to charge attacks makes up for the lack of EM. You can also use other characters like Nahida to grant free EM.
As a tighnari main. I tried the bow and its decent but I won't recommend it at all. Slingshot still best f2p and for 4 star go for Scion,Ibris or Stringless.
@@spartacurt best used to free up stringless! em venti will appreciate the 180 bonus em a lot and the timer on the first buff refreshes when you proc the 2nd so efficient rotations will keep you at +180 this is technically better than r4 stringless on full em venti? since theoretically you can run anemo damage bonus goblet, lose 7 em in exchange for 46.6 damage bonus no calcs required that'll do more since they give the same base attack & same amount of em need to see calc to be sure but it sounds great!
@@orionsayshi5037i think u still going to run EM goblet.. anemo dmg does nothing for reactions dmg... so the anemo dmg is only to benefit venti's raw anemo dmg -- which will suck because it is full EM build and most of the dmg will come from reactions which only scale from EM and char level...
@@thewackykid stringless provides damage bonus. all i am saying is that you are objectively doing more damage with max stacks cloudforged than stringless, because you can get to the same stats but with more damage bonus
Cloudforged because she doesn't stay on field to attack, so Rust passive is pretty useless. The EM helps her a lot more than the 40% ATK main stat since you usually play Fischl on Dendro teams.
The other comment is mostly correct. The only thing that matters is how you are building your Fischl. I know some people enjoy the "machine gun" Fischl build, in that case Rust is better. Cloudforged is better for most of her other builds though.
Not quite sure what you're asking here, weapon recommendation for those 3? For Chevreuse it once again depends on build choice, for pure support a Favonius Lance or Black Tassel is good. For Beidou a Wolf's Gravestone is BiS, Serpent Spine is good if you purchase the BP, Akuomaru or Rainslasher are decent options. For Arlechhino, outside of her signature weapon, any DPS polearm will work here, Deathmatch if you buy the BP, and the White Tassel for F2P options.
Depends on build and what stats you need, but my optimizer says that Stringless is still better on mine in comparison to stringless. if you are going Physical Fischl I would stick with Rust. If you have limited weapon options on your account and have characters fighting over stuff then Cloudforge would be a viable Stringless replacement for Fischl.
It's funny using tighnari because no matter what bow you get, slingshot is still better lol
I think Lyney sig or skyward might be able to beat it out.
@@donnyv4750 It does actually... I lost to Lyney's bow br getting Arlecchino's bow, so i got a bow for Tighnari now
I tested btw both builds and the only difference i noticed was like 3-4k difference in charge shots though
@@a-passerby I'd say that's a pretty big difference
@@donnyv4750 I'm using Lyney's bow in triple dendro Tighnari team he slays ✨🙏
If your talking Tighnari, Slingshot is good on him (better than most 4 stars) but not better than most 5 star dps bows. You should run those before Slingshot if you have them, if not, then go with Slingshot. Sethos, the other hand, performs best with Slingshot unless you have a Hunters Path lying around.
Kuki (drains her owns HP) was released in 2.7, but the dynamic of HP increase/decrease was introduced to us only in Fontaine (4.0).
ER increase/decrease might be introduced in 6.0😂
Kuki is a sword user
Not bowmen
@@vinny8589Not relevant at all
childe with shimenawa can proc the passive twice because his ranged burst refunds 15 energy.
Using your ult triggers the effect once. So it could be used on collei and venti
Oh this is good to know, thank you.
Fishel ?
@@S22GAMEING22 Fishl does not really want EM. She often is run with Stringless because of it's passive that buffs burst and skill damage not because of the EM stat
@@kamicokrolock ok thanks for the info
@@kamicokrolock Em does help aggravate dmg, it is by no means negligible. It just has actual diminishing returns so any more than what Stringless gives is less valuable than atk would be
Oh, didn't know the event is already here. Nice for my Sethos. Even though i don't plan to use him, i like when my characters has a decidated weapon
Slingshot is still better
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:23 How to get the Cloudforged
01:11 Cloudforged Overview
02:42 Sethos
03:31 Tighnari
04:36 Yoimiya
06:08 Amber (Kinda)
06:46 Final Thoughts
You forgot Fischl Oz snapshots :)
Criminally underrated channel
Thank you, I try.
Tihgnari on shimenawa is an option but you really gotta make sure he gets his energy back.
Yeah that's the tricky part. A favonius user or two should help with the lost energy.
Really likes the backround musics
I think for em venti it is the best f2p option
you forgot Faruzan with Shimenawa ...any Anemo Character wants to have decent good amounts of EM for their Swirls which scale alot with EM and their Level, her E skill has also a relative short cool down that it shoudl trigger shimenawa fast enough to get the EM buff of the bow twice, before the first effect ends as the buff lasts for 18s, her E skill has a cooldown of 6s, so you have 12s of where you have the full buff with her.. plus, alone the weapons name and design totally screams optically like its THE weapon designed for her in mind
I guess? I wouldn't really use Faruzan as a DPS though. I think her most popular build as a support is already good enough with Veridescent Venerer with a heavy focus on ER. Paired with a Favonius warbow for a lot ER for her own burst sustain but being a battery for her entire team (lowering their ER needs) is huge.
Also when you use her in this build then the Elemental Mastery is not even needed at all, she just needs to proc the Swirl, the damage it does isn't as important as that's up to your main DPS to more than make up for.
Aesthetics wise? Sure if you want.
I don’t think anyone really play dps Faruzan.
@@irispark1381 sure, because most people dont need too, because they whale and have naturally better options, the point of mentioning Faruzan was simply to point onto thev fact, that people could potentially have the option to play Faruzan with that bow in a more versatiel different way, than only building her as support for Wanderer/Xiangyun/Xiao/Kazuha ect.
Doesn’t Slingshot apply for Sethos too?
Aesthetics wins again
Aesthetics L
theres Venti aswell if you still dont have stringless.
I wish I had a name as cool as yours!
still not the best best idea but do you think if we burst with yoimiya and then used the skill to consume energy can we maybe get the 2 stacks?
Yes! That would be the optimal rotation with Yoimiya to get both stacks.
Bro how can u forgot about Ganyu 💀 She has a short e skill cool down and she can absolutely use shimenawa set I think other sethos ganyu can fully utilise this because she doesn't want to use her burst anyways in melt
Ganyu who?
who is this? is it a new character?
Lol these comments are funny.
I can forget because I'm human, last time I checked, humans make mistakes. What gets annoying is when people act like I made the biggest mistake in the world because I forgot one character.
That's why I literally say in the description if there's any other characters that can use this weapon, let me know! Sorry I can't remember every single character in a roster of 85 playable characters.
Thank you for character suggestion though, it does work well as a 4 star weapon for Melt Ganyu.
She can afford to burst with burn or Sunfire
You should also keep in mind that if you have Sethos at c6, then this bow's effect will be of no use to him, because his c6 makes it so that you don't drain energy when using his charged attack.
So perhaps even more niche.🤷♂️
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@@zyzhang1130 He said it's useless for now since there are better ones
@ceyx1201 Yes, and only if you don't have c6 and play the charged attack build rather than the burst normal/charged attack version.
But this is still a good option for him cuz it's one of the only f2p ones.
@@levshifrin2216 burst also drains energy
tighnari actually can get 2 stacks from bow passive as getting a new stack refreshes previous stack duration to 18s as well, so you just need to burst within 18s of tighnaris previous burst to get/keep full stacks
slingshot should still better tho
Where does it mention in the weapon's effect that it refreshes if you get a stack?
@@calamitygenshinimpact1255 It doesnt mention it but thats how it behaves ingame
@@calamitygenshinimpact1255 ive read some reddit guy talking about it and tested myself as well
It looks best on venti and gorou
Gorou...? How?
@@calamitygenshinimpact1255 goro has brown and blue in his design. Im talking about aesthetics. It also looks alright on diona.
Prayge Natlan
I fully built this bow just cos its cheaper during event, kinda poinltess though haha.
Well at least it's cheaper during the event!
Slingshot gives you at least 300 less Em and sethos want so much Em and if you build him dps you surely want an Em weapon othewise you ll have to go for Em circlet which makes it worse -he does reactions and scales on Em so its better than atk
For Hyberbloom sure, but the large increase to charge attacks makes up for the lack of EM. You can also use other characters like Nahida to grant free EM.
As a tighnari main. I tried the bow and its decent but I won't recommend it at all. Slingshot still best f2p and for 4 star go for Scion,Ibris or Stringless.
Ty so much.. been searching for this comment for long
@@moon184 ❤️
How is it for EM Venti?
you can keep 2 stack 100% uptime with venti since his burst cooldown is less than the weapon so its rather good
@@orionsayshi5037 good to know because it looks absolutely amazing on him 🤩
@@spartacurt best used to free up stringless! em venti will appreciate the 180 bonus em a lot and the timer on the first buff refreshes when you proc the 2nd so efficient rotations will keep you at +180
this is technically better than r4 stringless on full em venti? since theoretically you can run anemo damage bonus goblet, lose 7 em in exchange for 46.6 damage bonus
no calcs required that'll do more since they give the same base attack & same amount of em
need to see calc to be sure but it sounds great!
@@orionsayshi5037i think u still going to run EM goblet.. anemo dmg does nothing for reactions dmg... so the anemo dmg is only to benefit venti's raw anemo dmg -- which will suck because it is full EM build and most of the dmg will come from reactions which only scale from EM and char level...
@@thewackykid stringless provides damage bonus. all i am saying is that you are objectively doing more damage with max stacks cloudforged than stringless, because you can get to the same stats but with more damage bonus
What’s better for Fischl: R5 Cloudforged or R1 Rust?
Cloudforged because she doesn't stay on field to attack, so Rust passive is pretty useless. The EM helps her a lot more than the 40% ATK main stat since you usually play Fischl on Dendro teams.
The other comment is mostly correct. The only thing that matters is how you are building your Fischl. I know some people enjoy the "machine gun" Fischl build, in that case Rust is better.
Cloudforged is better for most of her other builds though.
@@hallyuniverse thanks! what about for Arlecchino/Chevreuse/Beidou ?
Not quite sure what you're asking here, weapon recommendation for those 3?
For Chevreuse it once again depends on build choice, for pure support a Favonius Lance or Black Tassel is good.
For Beidou a Wolf's Gravestone is BiS, Serpent Spine is good if you purchase the BP, Akuomaru or Rainslasher are decent options.
For Arlechhino, outside of her signature weapon, any DPS polearm will work here, Deathmatch if you buy the BP, and the White Tassel for F2P options.
Depends on build and what stats you need, but my optimizer says that Stringless is still better on mine in comparison to stringless. if you are going Physical Fischl I would stick with Rust. If you have limited weapon options on your account and have characters fighting over stuff then Cloudforge would be a viable Stringless replacement for Fischl.
How tf you got c5 amber
Playing since launch and also buying her constellations in the monthly store in Paimon's Bargains.
You copying otz with that intro? Lol
Yes because I believe imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and he's a CC I can only dream of becoming someday.
@@calamitygenshinimpact1255 oh that's cool. Hope you'll follow that dresm
Wow, i missed another free weapon that will never come again 🥲
Someday Hoyoverse will allow new players access to event weapons again! (Copium)
@@calamitygenshinimpact1255 I wish they do, I also missed the seele pet event 😖