If you decide to use a cable you will start pulling the sides inward you might be better buying another length of conduit and attach to the sides with t clamps
Hey thats looking great! And just pick up a couple more poles and put long screws through the end and bend upward for brackets or maybe they have bracing brackets for attaching to the cattle fencing wire....anchor down with cinderblocks on the ground. My hubby uses cinderblocks and bungees to anchor down a pole & tarp carport over his 46 ford....😂 we get REAL winter wind here and it works.😊
The sagging is on this side only, the other three sides are holding. if you can support this side with another cross bar, even if you get a little sagging in the center of your grid, it will not be so much. And you can always add yet another bar. Or a small truss. I don't think a cable will have the tension to stop the sagging without damaging the rest of the structure. You could also use a central column, like the ones you have in all four corners, to support the grid on this side. It will give you a bonus post to hang pots from...
@@SVKLOrchids Exactly! But remember not to hang too much pot weight on it. I cultivate on crushed granite stone, and even though I prefer plastic pots and styrofoam drainage, they can add up to a fair amount of weight. Plus, all of my pots are hanging. So I had to have a pretty sturdy shade house built.
Your best bet is going to be to put another piece of conduit across there, weaving it between the grid. They make a tee connector that fits over the existing conduit without having to cut it and the two pieces lock together with a screw. Of course you know that hurricane is going to change direction and hit me because they just pulled the old roof off this week and the tiles won't go on until the end of July and my generator isn't getting put in until the first week of August.
Noooo, get the roof up! We need the rain here! Folks on the coast hate 'em, but we love hurricanes here inland. I think I'll end up attaching another conduit, like you mentioned.
@@SVKLOrchids it would have been nice to have had the roof done ages ago but it took 18 months to get the insurance money and then there was a 12 week lead time for them to start. No way to speed up the finish, unfortunately, the tiles won't be delivered until July 8 and they have to sit on the roof for two weeks before they can set them. Now, if the HOA would have allowed the metal barrel tiles, rather than concrete, it could have been done a lot faster.
Hi Stephen, I was hanging my orchids on branches in summer but loose a lot of spikes and new growth. Also spend months getting rid of them in winter in the house. I see your orchids on the soil and close to the soil. How you deal with snails and slugs?
Wow that's great! Perfect for them catasetum! Air all around! Yea I'm not sure how you could get support across that without having a pole down to the ground. Huh maybe someone else has suggestions! 😊
+1 for t clamps and another length of conduit. It definitely won't hurt the overall structural stability, and it might help. Will definitely stop the sag. I was wondering how your Mexipedium xerophyticum was doing. I saw something that made me think of it the other day.
Make me think of like a coat rack supporting both the cattle panel and have orchids hanging on the side! Sounds intriguing, but I want to keep that central area easy to move around, so I’m going to try and avoid a central stake, I think.
Not a solution to the sagging wire.... but... Your H.O.A. "might" complain about the black shade cloth. Could have used some Military Surplus Camouflage netting telling them you own a TANK !
Ha!! That would be hilarious! Luckily, the nearest road is positioned in such a way that no one driving by can see the shade cloth! I doubt a neighbor will complain either. If they do, I'll tell them its a tank and barrel is pointing at their house 😂
Seriously-SERIOUSLY-annoyed with you , Stephen. Sat through all 3 videos-over 1/2 hour of my time, to watch you build this quick shade house (which I am in the middle of perfecting my own), and one of my primary interests was WHAT PERCENTAGE SHADE CLOTH you would use for Texas sun and Catts… What I got was 8 and 9 year olds (sorry, I but detest children) doing what thier puny, dominative bodies could pull off… I got MUCH explanation about weird turn-N-cut pipe/conduit cutters, ground screws, zip ties… Even an explanation about Pokémon lemonade stand out on the street with the kids (sheesh….) And still, after all of this I have no idea what percentage shade cloth you used-information that truly would have been of benefit to me and my orchid growing skills (sorry, but Pokeman and child lemonade sales serve me no purpose). I have really enjoyed and learned a lot from your presence here on RUclips (adore the on location Brazilian videos) but the ball was dropped (in terms of skillfully helping others) with 3 videos detailing a shade house construction with ZILCH information regarding the actual shade cloth-other than you skimped and bought it on Amazon-and shock!-it’s too small…
@@Toddster63 Ah, I understand. Maybe we just delete this whole thread and pretend it didn’t happen? The shade cloth is rated 50-60% and works wonderfully.
@@SVKLOrchids I started out with 60% black-but dang, it elevated temps too much (my “shade shack” is small and plants are close to the cloth). After research and raves, I switched to 60% Aluminet-and WOW-major difference! Keeps things much cooler and while still at 60%, the Aluminet appears considerably brighter due to the diffused and refracted light properties of the aluminum finish. Plus my shack in the winter has a small fan heater and I cover the shack with a snug custom clear poly cover, and I’m sure the Aluminet will strongly help reflect the heat back into the shack and make it easy to keep my winter low goal of 54F-58F (here in Nor Calif, winter lows sometimes approach frost, but usually around 35F-48F) I’m totally part of the Aluminet rave family now. So glad I listened to Roberta from Orchidboard and others who highly touted it. However, it is ugly-a bright glaring silver rectangle standing proudly in my yard (home to Lc. Frank Lloyd Wright, Paph. philippinense, compact var, Rossioglossum grande, Phrag. pearcei, and others)
If you decide to use a cable you will start pulling the sides inward you might be better buying another length of conduit and attach to the sides with t clamps
Ya, I might have to do that. I'm trying to avoid that tho! lol
Looks good. No HOA issues I hope. Stay cool and dry.
Luckily, the HOA can't see it from the road. I think since its not a "permanent" structure, they can't say anything about it.
Hey thats looking great! And just pick up a couple more poles and put long screws through the end and bend upward for brackets or maybe they have bracing brackets for attaching to the cattle fencing wire....anchor down with cinderblocks on the ground. My hubby uses cinderblocks and bungees to anchor down a pole & tarp carport over his 46 ford....😂 we get REAL winter wind here and it works.😊
I'll have to look that up!
All ready at last. The only thing I missed was Hunter and Grayson 😊
I’ll get them in a video soon!
Hi Stephen. All looks great so far. I’m useless for suggesting anything, but I’m sure you will get plenty of suggestions. Have a great Sunday. 🤗👏🤔
Happy Sunday! 🙌
Looks great so far
Thanks!
Very nice 🌸👍
Thanks! 😃
The sagging is on this side only, the other three sides are holding. if you can support this side with another cross bar, even if you get a little sagging in the center of your grid, it will not be so much. And you can always add yet another bar. Or a small truss. I don't think a cable will have the tension to stop the sagging without damaging the rest of the structure. You could also use a central column, like the ones you have in all four corners, to support the grid on this side. It will give you a bonus post to hang pots from...
I think I'll have to get another conduit and attach it without cutting the existing infrastructure. Before the storm...
@@SVKLOrchids Exactly! But remember not to hang too much pot weight on it. I cultivate on crushed granite stone, and even though I prefer plastic pots and styrofoam drainage, they can add up to a fair amount of weight. Plus, all of my pots are hanging. So I had to have a pretty sturdy shade house built.
@@Naturamorpho For sure! I would only have a few more plants to add after in the next few months!
Your best bet is going to be to put another piece of conduit across there, weaving it between the grid. They make a tee connector that fits over the existing conduit without having to cut it and the two pieces lock together with a screw.
Of course you know that hurricane is going to change direction and hit me because they just pulled the old roof off this week and the tiles won't go on until the end of July and my generator isn't getting put in until the first week of August.
Noooo, get the roof up! We need the rain here! Folks on the coast hate 'em, but we love hurricanes here inland. I think I'll end up attaching another conduit, like you mentioned.
@@SVKLOrchids it would have been nice to have had the roof done ages ago but it took 18 months to get the insurance money and then there was a 12 week lead time for them to start. No way to speed up the finish, unfortunately, the tiles won't be delivered until July 8 and they have to sit on the roof for two weeks before they can set them. Now, if the HOA would have allowed the metal barrel tiles, rather than concrete, it could have been done a lot faster.
@@michaelmccarthy4077 Hopefully finished before the 2024 hurricanes show up at your doorstep!
Hi Stephen,
I was hanging my orchids on branches in summer but loose a lot of spikes and new growth.
Also spend months getting rid of them in winter in the house.
I see your orchids on the soil and close to the soil.
How you deal with snails and slugs?
Wow that's great! Perfect for them catasetum! Air all around! Yea I'm not sure how you could get support across that without having a pole down to the ground. Huh maybe someone else has suggestions! 😊
I guess I could prop a piece of wood under it in a pinch, but I'd like something to look nice!
@SVKLOrchids you could use a metal stake too. Would look better and skinnier than wood.
@@hillbillyorchids For sure!
Can you get a t bar for conduit and run a conduit across ?? Looks great !!!
Yes, I might have to do that, but I'm hoping to avoid cutting the existing infrastructure.
You might put another piece of conduit across.
definitely!
+1 for t clamps and another length of conduit.
It definitely won't hurt the overall structural stability, and it might help.
Will definitely stop the sag.
I was wondering how your Mexipedium xerophyticum was doing. I saw something that made me think of it the other day.
I sold that one to a friend in Louisiana a few years back! Definitely a cool species.
Would you consider supporting the sagging panel with a vertical piece of wood or conduit? Could this addition be used to hold lower light plants?
Make me think of like a coat rack supporting both the cattle panel and have orchids hanging on the side! Sounds intriguing, but I want to keep that central area easy to move around, so I’m going to try and avoid a central stake, I think.
Not a solution to the sagging wire.... but... Your H.O.A. "might" complain about the black shade cloth. Could have used some Military Surplus Camouflage netting telling them you own a TANK !
Ha!! That would be hilarious! Luckily, the nearest road is positioned in such a way that no one driving by can see the shade cloth! I doubt a neighbor will complain either. If they do, I'll tell them its a tank and barrel is pointing at their house 😂
i would ditch the cattle panel and run multiple chains with turnbuckles along the top and tighten them to your liking
I'll look that up! Not sure what a turnbuckle looks like.
Seriously-SERIOUSLY-annoyed with you , Stephen. Sat through all 3 videos-over 1/2 hour of my time, to watch you build this quick shade house (which I am in the middle of perfecting my own), and one of my primary interests was WHAT PERCENTAGE SHADE CLOTH you would use for Texas sun and Catts…
What I got was 8 and 9 year olds (sorry, I but detest children) doing what thier puny, dominative bodies could pull off… I got MUCH explanation about weird turn-N-cut pipe/conduit cutters, ground screws, zip ties…
Even an explanation about Pokémon lemonade stand out on the street with the kids (sheesh….)
And still, after all of this I have no idea what percentage shade cloth you used-information that truly would have been of benefit to me and my orchid growing skills (sorry, but Pokeman and child lemonade sales serve me no purpose).
I have really enjoyed and learned a lot from your presence here on RUclips (adore the on location Brazilian videos) but the ball was dropped (in terms of skillfully helping others) with 3 videos detailing a shade house construction with ZILCH information regarding the actual shade cloth-other than you skimped and bought it on Amazon-and shock!-it’s too small…
@@Toddster63 Hey Todd, GFY. If you don’t know that acronym, look it up. Then feel free to never comment on my channel ever again.
@@SVKLOrchids I apologize, my comment was out of line, terrible day.
@@Toddster63 Ah, I understand. Maybe we just delete this whole thread and pretend it didn’t happen? The shade cloth is rated 50-60% and works wonderfully.
@@SVKLOrchids I started out with 60% black-but dang, it elevated temps too much (my “shade shack” is small and plants are close to the cloth). After research and raves, I switched to 60% Aluminet-and WOW-major difference! Keeps things much cooler and while still at 60%, the Aluminet appears considerably brighter due to the diffused and refracted light properties of the aluminum finish. Plus my shack in the winter has a small fan heater and I cover the shack with a snug custom clear poly cover, and I’m sure the Aluminet will strongly help reflect the heat back into the shack and make it easy to keep my winter low goal of 54F-58F (here in Nor Calif, winter lows sometimes approach frost, but usually around 35F-48F)
I’m totally part of the Aluminet rave family now. So glad I listened to Roberta from Orchidboard and others who highly touted it. However, it is ugly-a bright glaring silver rectangle standing proudly in my yard (home to Lc. Frank Lloyd Wright, Paph. philippinense, compact var, Rossioglossum grande, Phrag. pearcei, and others)
@@Toddster63 I’ve used aluminet and everything you said is true. It’s really a great product!