I thought at the end of the trespasser, if Liliana isn’t divine, they come up to her rookery and see a fleet of crows leaving and she is nowhere to be seen. I think she leaves a cryptic letter, but if memory serves, no matter what choice you make Liliana is gone from the inquisition
There isn’t any going back to her rookery or getting a note from her in trespasser. You actually see her in the end credit scene talking about tracking down solas!
@ no I mean in the end credits where they are saying what happens to everyone. In the same scene where they say Cassandra might be restarting the seekers. It says there that Liliana is gone. Is that optional? I’ve only seen her fate being either the divine or she is just gone. Didn’t know there was a third option for her
Ah I see what you mean! For Ivy's LP she stayed on until the inquisition officially disbanded, and made sure others were ready to take on important roles. But that's where it left it for Ivy. Plus for me personally post-credit cutscene is always more what I take the ending to be for characters involved in it as it hints at the most for what is to come!
@@FoodThenGames ah! That makes sense! I assumed since it had been 10 years since we had inquisition that what it said happened to them would be the cannon moving forward. I still agree with all your other points about them dropping the ball on world states. I just Liliana one as being irrelevant since I thought no matter your choice, she wasn’t with the inquisition anymore and it would be charter there
There's no wrong way to squee over being able to pet a baby griffon. From the tallest, buffest qunari bro to the tweest little dwarven scout, all are at the mercy of Assan's allowing for best pets. "Way of 3 trees..." was that in Origins? I feel like it was...
I have never thought of my Inquisitor as a hero but more of a victim of circumstance here I am one serving food at the conclave and BOOM the place blows up and then I found sera
The inquisitor is both to me. You can be a victim of circumstance and not do anything or just curl up and give up. But the inquisitor was a hero because they choose to fight and do the right thing.
@@FoodThenGames I get it but I all ways felt forced by that stupid green glowing thing on my hand I never once felt that I wasn't a prisoner until maybe end of act 2, just like baily in mass effect I never wanted a promotion but he I am glowing hand thingy
I'm gonna do something surprising and disagree wirh you here. XD. Well... partially. You're 100% right that if you DIDN'T recruit Blackwall, Cole, or Sera then this entire conversation is something that can't happen. Big oof to the devs not to cover that. However, if you did recruit them, even if they did end up banished, addicted to lyrium or dead, Harding could've had fond memories of how they were at the start since she wasn't all that close to them. But... overall I agree with you here. Especially since the conversation is dependent on recruiting everyone in the first place. BTW I hope you don't find my comments disagreeing with you here and there annoying. I try not to be disrespectful. If you don't like them you could let me know and I'd stop no questions asked.
But Cullen's lyrium addiction is pretty much a non-point if you choose to have him go back on almost right away. And to me at least it was always implied that Harding only started hanging out with us when we moved to Skyhold so she wouldn't have seen/hung out with non-lyrium Cullen in that case. And while yes kicking Sera out could be at varied points the fact is that it could still happen and might even happen before hitting Skyhold so those memories wouldn't be there. Plus it always felt like to me that Sera becomes more "Sera" after the approval cutscenes like playing pranks and stuff you know?! For Blackwall I'll give you that as you don't find out about him being Thom until very late but if you did boot him out I just feel like the inquisition as a unit would have had a different version of him if that makes sense? Or if there had been an allowance in the dialogue for like what Harding said and then "oh and then he was sent to prison" 😂 Overall it just felt like the Disney/happy/perfect run of DAI and didn't allow for anything to be messy and that's what really makes me sad as DAI overall was a messy game in the best way possible! And you're free to disagree whenever -- I never take it personally and welcome it when people have different viewpoints!
I’m impressed you could walk away from Assan!! Those hugs and pets were so cute!!
Throwing pies is when I fell for sera
Yes! Her asking us clumsily to marry her, ugh, I friggin’ died. She is so sweet!
I thought at the end of the trespasser, if Liliana isn’t divine, they come up to her rookery and see a fleet of crows leaving and she is nowhere to be seen. I think she leaves a cryptic letter, but if memory serves, no matter what choice you make Liliana is gone from the inquisition
There isn’t any going back to her rookery or getting a note from her in trespasser. You actually see her in the end credit scene talking about tracking down solas!
@ no I mean in the end credits where they are saying what happens to everyone. In the same scene where they say Cassandra might be restarting the seekers. It says there that Liliana is gone. Is that optional? I’ve only seen her fate being either the divine or she is just gone. Didn’t know there was a third option for her
Ah I see what you mean! For Ivy's LP she stayed on until the inquisition officially disbanded, and made sure others were ready to take on important roles. But that's where it left it for Ivy. Plus for me personally post-credit cutscene is always more what I take the ending to be for characters involved in it as it hints at the most for what is to come!
@@FoodThenGames ah! That makes sense! I assumed since it had been 10 years since we had inquisition that what it said happened to them would be the cannon moving forward. I still agree with all your other points about them dropping the ball on world states. I just Liliana one as being irrelevant since I thought no matter your choice, she wasn’t with the inquisition anymore and it would be charter there
There's no wrong way to squee over being able to pet a baby griffon. From the tallest, buffest qunari bro to the tweest little dwarven scout, all are at the mercy of Assan's allowing for best pets.
"Way of 3 trees..." was that in Origins? I feel like it was...
I have never thought of my Inquisitor as a hero but more of a victim of circumstance here I am one serving food at the conclave and BOOM the place blows up and then I found sera
The inquisitor is both to me. You can be a victim of circumstance and not do anything or just curl up and give up. But the inquisitor was a hero because they choose to fight and do the right thing.
@@FoodThenGames I get it but I all ways felt forced by that stupid green glowing thing on my hand I never once felt that I wasn't a prisoner until maybe end of act 2, just like baily in mass effect I never wanted a promotion but he I am glowing hand thingy
I'm gonna do something surprising and disagree wirh you here. XD. Well... partially. You're 100% right that if you DIDN'T recruit Blackwall, Cole, or Sera then this entire conversation is something that can't happen. Big oof to the devs not to cover that.
However, if you did recruit them, even if they did end up banished, addicted to lyrium or dead, Harding could've had fond memories of how they were at the start since she wasn't all that close to them.
But... overall I agree with you here. Especially since the conversation is dependent on recruiting everyone in the first place.
BTW I hope you don't find my comments disagreeing with you here and there annoying. I try not to be disrespectful. If you don't like them you could let me know and I'd stop no questions asked.
Not 'entire conversation ' but you know what I mean
But Cullen's lyrium addiction is pretty much a non-point if you choose to have him go back on almost right away. And to me at least it was always implied that Harding only started hanging out with us when we moved to Skyhold so she wouldn't have seen/hung out with non-lyrium Cullen in that case.
And while yes kicking Sera out could be at varied points the fact is that it could still happen and might even happen before hitting Skyhold so those memories wouldn't be there. Plus it always felt like to me that Sera becomes more "Sera" after the approval cutscenes like playing pranks and stuff you know?!
For Blackwall I'll give you that as you don't find out about him being Thom until very late but if you did boot him out I just feel like the inquisition as a unit would have had a different version of him if that makes sense? Or if there had been an allowance in the dialogue for like what Harding said and then "oh and then he was sent to prison" 😂
Overall it just felt like the Disney/happy/perfect run of DAI and didn't allow for anything to be messy and that's what really makes me sad as DAI overall was a messy game in the best way possible! And you're free to disagree whenever -- I never take it personally and welcome it when people have different viewpoints!