Kamijou Touma's Secret Ability | Toaru Explained
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2020
- Here I explain Touma's precognition, the ability that was not even mentioned in the anime.
Passage I read was from A Certain Magical Index Volume 20 (Old Testament), credit to Js06/Baka Tsuki.
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"A Certain Magical Index", "A Certain Magical Index New Testament" & "A Certain Magical Index Genesis Testament" are written by Kamachi Kazuma, and illustrated by Kiyotaka Haimura, and published by Dengeki Bunko (ASCII Media Works) under Kadokawa Corporation (Kadoawa Future Publishing). The manga of "A Certain Scientific Railgun" & "A Certain Scientific Accelerator" are written by Kamachi Kazuma, illustrated by Motoi Fuyukawa & Arata Yamaji respectively, and both published by ASCII Media Works. "A Certain Scientific Railgun: Astral Buddy" & "A Certain Scientific Mental Out" are both written by Kamachi Kazuma and illustrated by Yasuhito Nogi, published by ASCII Media Works & Comic Newtype respectively. "A Certain Scientific Dark Matter" is written by Kamachi Kazuma, illustrated by Kisaragi Nankyoku and published by ASCII Media Works. The anime adaptations of "A Certain Magical Index", "A Certain Scientific Railgun" & "A Certain Scientific Accelerator" were produced by JC Staff, directed by Hiroshi Nishikiori, Tatsuyuki Nagai and Nobuharu Kamanaka respectively. - Развлечения
Made this in a more traditional format to guarantee I won't get any copyright strikes, so sadly no anime footage in this one. Hope you guys don't mind. And yeah this is a more basic explanation vid. For more detailed analysis vids check out my light novel reviews or my Fiamma vid.
Thanks guys :^)
I made a theory on how Touma managed to survive before acquiring his precognition as well, a while back. Its a bit stretched, but I´m still pretty proud of it.
www.reddit.com/r/toarumajutsunoindex/comments/imf0e4/theory_about_toumas_bad_luck_ibit/
Great video, btw. I like the voice tone when you read.
I feel like when you were reading the passage of the light novel, you should have put the page up on the screen during the video. It was a bit hard to follow along because of that, and the music that was playing behind it.
@@edcaous It was a long passage. Next time I will consider it.
@@AeonofHorus Do make a Touma vs Yogiri video for War (Imagine Breaker vs Instant Death)
because it will be funny to watch W A R in the comment section >:)
@@davidgumazon I would rather make vids purely about Index than about gimmick isekai characters hahaha
Touma using Ultra Instinct before Goku even knowing about it
Since Touma can cancel out Supernatural. Does that mean he can cancel out the Kamehameha?
@@wammygames7627 Technically.
Wammy Games technically yes but if rasengan yes
@@wammygames7627 of course
@@wammygames7627 but kamehameha uses ki tho. Which is life-force/Natural energy. Maybe he can cancel it.
The fight was a million times more epic in the novel, Accelerator had a hundred black wings, he was terrified of Touma not angry and Touma didn't win with plot armor but precognition and pure unadulterated badass skill.
immagine if there is a fan made animation of the fight that was accurate in the novel. I'll pay for that
Yes, the LN fight and the setting was more epic and made sense.
In the LN, it was not touma who found accelerator in that state. Accelerator saw touma passing by without even noticing the kid that needed help. That made him angry because he was not right in the mind. "How dare a hero like him didn't noticed a person in need of help", that was his arguement. Accelerator didn't attacked lessar in the LN. Why would he? And also, accelerator himself wanted touma to defeat him and put an end to it. He was angry at himself more than the hero.
And also the 100 black wings, imagine breaker failing to negate the black wings, touma grabbing the wings to twist them and make a safe spot for him, accelerator theorizing touma's precognition and 'theorizing a counter against it'(?).
In the LN, the fight was a very close call. Touma could've died any moment. Touma won because of his experience in hand to hand combat as the fight turned into a close combat rather than ranged fight.
Lots of anime watchers say that this was plot armor for that reason. Kind of sad that the adaptions misleading in some areas.
@@justsomeguywithgreenhair And the fact that the black wings are actually faster than the speed of light (i dont remember exactly how fast but its bear there), and Touma was able to deflect it.
But where do you read the on pls share it
Yeah precognition rocks
when I was anime only i always thought how touma placed his right hand in the right place to negate misaka's electric attacks
Precognition is similar to shirou's eye of the mind
More like artoria's instinct skill combined with the false version of the eye of the mind skill
@@yanyjc wtf is eye of mind ?
@@KsiOlajigglyOlatittiesDiabetes eye of the mind is a skill possessed by some servants which grants them the ability to identify, recognize, and respond to danger, basically. The true version is using knowledge from past experiences to deal with upcoming threats, and can be obtained by anyone with enough effort. While the false version is a sixth sense that allows you to recognize and defend against danger, and can't be gained from training. The first is like fighting a boss monster in an rpg, then later fighting the same monster, and using your knowledge from the past fight to predict its moves, and see all its tells, while the second allows you to instantly recognize if somethings a threat, regardless if you encountered it before, and instantly take steps to counter it. Hope that helps.
One of touma's most important power is able to understand what to say to break the enemy's reasoning behind their action and their motive combine it with precognition and ib we get an op main character. And people call it plot armour that he wins against insanely strong opponents
Yeah the fans who think its plot armour don't even bother to research to find out why he wins.
so he has Talk no Jutsu or something similar?
@@jirouhanz2 i wouldn't say its talk no jutsu because touma knows what he is doing and deliberately saying things just to weaken enemy's morale and he said it himself that many time he just makes some random ideals up just to win against the enemy
@@jaideepsharma9349 It's more like on the spot t-n-j. He hears opponents motive, and makes up things to prove that what they are thinking is noting but illusions and then the line, "i'm gonna break that illusion of yours".
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Touma has a surprising amount of empathy, allowing him to understand and sympathize with his enemies before deconstructing their motivations and, as the saying goes, "breaking their illusions".
Unlike most Talk no Jutsu practitioners though, this is his ONLY weapon he has in his arsenal against his enemies (his predecessors have powers capable of superhuman feats, while he has only his IB and street fighting skills) so he has made an art out of it.
I'd say that give him 10 more years, he can accurately assess a person's thought processes after absorbing scarce info about them.
He'd make a great psychologist, or chessmaster if he pushed himself harder than ever.
Finally someone made a video about this
I believe that Touma can sense magicians, just not pure physical attacks like those from Saints. Didn't Touma instinctively felt something off about Stiyl when they first met that made him acknowledged that Stiyl was something he had never experienced before? Then there's Rensa that, by removing all subconscious moments from her body, could bypass his precognition despite having AIM.
Oh yeah he can still sense and react to supernatural attacks either magic or science, but im more talking about the purely physical and natural speed of saints.
Saints are indirectly supernatural. And fast enough to exceed his kinetic vision.
Aeon of Horus so he's like zenitsu mixed with inosuke
@@cloudstrife4866 TF?!
Kagamine Len what
There are two weird variants of his precog, there’s a version of it that’s good against all attacks, and there’s a version of it that’s only good against supernatural attacks. At least until the Othnius fight, which touma was reacting to her attacks
@@craytherlaygaming2852 mane just imagine if a full strength GT3 Touma fought accelerator (OT3) he would give accelerator more brain damage than that bullet did
@@theconmantube3449 GT 3 is out? I didn't know.
@@johans-l9794 it’s not, I’m just saying current Touma, GT3 drops in November
@@theconmantube3449 you gave me hope well guess I'll wait
@@theconmantube3449 Well, even if you take GT3 touma, that ain't helping to deal more damage. Remember, IB can't negate the black wings. If we take GT3 touma then touma is gonna be more skillfull in the fight and maybe finish it a little quicker.
i hope its okay if i explain more about the Accel vsTouma Part2. to those Anime only watchers. Touma right hand seemed to have the effect of negating any supernatural power.
However, because of limits there were cases where massive powers that couldn’t be negated completely ended up only blocked by the right hand. From what Lessar had seen, Fiamma’s special giant sword had taken a while before it was erased completely. to the main point now. in the LN he wasnt able to negate Black Wings completely. and he still has 100 Black wings to deal with. He really got a good clapping ass whoopin to Accel and almost dying. But whats more impressive how he overcome that. Normally not being able to negate something completely was a disadvantage to him. but Touma uses that disadvantage to his full advantage. He used that flaw of IB(not being able to negate something completely) to twist the black wings of Accel. (gotta remind that was Accel 100 BlackWings he's dealing with) He grabbed Accel Wings because if he cant erased it he can just block it meaning he can touch it i think. He twisted that Wing causing Accel to fall out of balance and created a small safe area while protecting his vitals when he was surrounded by the black wings and charged in to Accel and fck his Illusions. and Accel was countering his Precog too and making calculations how to counter it. and fighting in a safe distance. one more thing is how scared Accel was to Touma that fight. he really got chills to Touma. and my waifu Lessar said herself even if she had IB in her right hand she wouldnt have gotten thesame results in that fight. That WW3 arc provided us to greatly enhance Touma ability to fight. tbh a direct hit from the Black Wings would result to his death but because of Precog he fckin barely survive those black wings. Precognition is like predicting something before it could happen.
Ik. I watched the anime first cuz i usually watch anime. My thoughts on the first and second touma vs accel fight "ah of course plot armor". Then i was told to read LN and yes, the amount of excitement i got from those moments like, accel almost killing touma, touma reading accels movements and countering them, and finally touma punching accel. When i was an anime only i liked accelerator because he was the only good "written" character. In the LN my fav is still accelerator but touma is my second.
Technically, they showed precog in his fight with Fiamma in Index III, tho of course it's only shown and never explained.
But yeah this video will be helpful to many people coming from the anime. The new mic sounds good BTW!
Hmm, I think I know what you're referring to.... but not 100% sure... I mean he could have sensed it by other natural means. And technically he has used precog in even more fights in the anime whenever he reacts to attacks a normal human couldn't react to. What was missing is an explanation like you said.
If one considers the mental capacity many Esper abilities require, the precognition could arguably still be his Esper power, or at least it's shadow as without access to AIM the parts of the Esper brain normally responsible for manipulating AIM is freed up to be used for other things, and since one of the functions it would be doing in normal Espers is subconsciously crunching the numbers needed for the Esper to use their ability, it wouldn't be much of a shift to subconsciously processing environmentally data for reflexes
Yeah, people forget that Espers require extremely fast computational ability to use their powers even as a level 1, and most Level 5's computational powers already far surpasses modern supercomputers.
Precognition yes that's what anime skipped
I am tired of explaining that fight to anime onlies
I hope they watch your videos
I am waiting for your live podcast
Yeah i feel it's important they know! I'm doing what JC Staff failed to do lmao
Well, next time you see those kinda thing,Just put this video's link there.
@@Pepetra yeah I will do that
lol what’s up with all this hate with guys that only watch’s anime??? Seriously you guys suck...
@@enxgma8085 who exactly hate commented on anime onlies
I commented that I am tired of explaining precognition
To anime onlies because whenever I explain that to them they will say that it is plot armor
(it's like saying accelerator's black wings are his plot armor)
I said hope they watch your videos because aeon explains magic side of index
Which many anime onlies don't understand I also didn't understand when I was anime only i liked science side
After reading index LN I started to like magic side
Touma:Has an excellent awarement of his surroundigs, giving attention to almost every minimum detail to predict and anticipate the next move of his opponent
Anime-onlies:"pLoT aRmOr!"
Edit:Doesn't Hamazura has Precognition too?
Nah, Hamazura has literal luck, doing things that shouldn't be impossible for him.
@@nicovoth7243 and training
hamazura should have been dead af, but i can buy it, still, i think "precognition" might be an excuse for lazy writing
@@pablogr6960 mmmmm.......I am really tired of hearing the same bullshit from all of the Touma haters
@@natsuoken8900 there is little you can do, ask JC to do better adaptations
8:38 If it worked by sensing AIM energy then it wouldn't have worked against Birdway or other magicians he fights. Rensa and most of Accelerator's explanation implies that the "involuntary movements" are mostly physical and not referring to the esper energy.
But if it's that case then why it only work against supernatural abilities??
@@ren7686 The only person that implied that is Touma, who doesn't even fully understand that he has precognition in the first place. Both Rensa, Accelerator, and even the narrator say it's mostly based subconsciously picking up physical signs like muscle movements, blinking, etc.
@@ren7686 easy, because Touma obviously subconsciously treats Supernatural bullshit as more threatening, thus it will automatically make him go to higher gear in its presence. Dude's been dealing with supernatural bullshit for a long time it's ingrained in him.
Oh ho ho, I didn’t expect a video before the live podcast. Nevertheless I am still grateful that you made the video about Toumas precognition, too few people that only watch the anime know about it...
I have more free time now :^)
Love this video man!
he cant detect AIM fields, that's takitsubo's thing. he's literally detecting actual involuntary movements, like poker tells.
Full form of Aim is : An Involuntary movement
@@ProhibitedIndex666 i'm well aware of that, but you have to distinguish between the acronym and literal involuntary movements. magicians don't have the former, and they do have the latter.
Loved the video bro👌
Thank you Biagio
I just hope the anime shows precognition someday.
Touma's right hand is so strong it even negates the writer. Touma writing his own story
I love your content!
Love u
Another great video! The audio sounds much better too with that new mic. One correction, if you're using the old Baka-Tsuki fan TL, I believe the translator of that was a user called Teh Ping. Js06 didn't start translating until NT2, if memory serves me right.
Thanks! Yeah tbh I wasn't 100% sure if it was Js or not. Did Teh Ping do volume 20?
@@AeonofHorus He was the main translator for a lot of the Baka-Tsuki Index translations. There was one other guy, I think he went by Joal or something, who worked on some earlier volumes prologues at the same time Teh Ping was doing OT20, but he didn't have a hand in the main translation project. It was mostly just Teh Ping until NT.
Awesome and very informative video! I just would like to give some feedback if you don't mind. When you read passages from the novels please include them in the video, it makes it easier to understand. Thank you in advance :D
Tbh I was considering it for this video.... but then I realised I am reading for like 6 minutes, from 3 pages.... if the bulk of the video was just the pages of the novel then I felt it would be uninteresting to look at. For smaller passages I will probably do it. Thanks tho :)
Has the novel ever had small passages of explanation is the question 😂
I always found this fight funny (anime only ) accelerator thought touma pulled up to stop him but touma seemed almost annoyed by accelerator like getting side tracked by an annoying side quest
Aeon: Touma
Captions: Termer
hE hAs PlOt ArMoUr
Year.Everyone has plot armor. Accelerators are no exception.
hell yea new video
IMO this is really shines when he fight Anna Sprengel in GT2, even the Acute version of St.Germain that infected him noticed this, and applaud in how he conclude things from scarcity of information during Touma-St.Germain duet .... even i who started from OT22 could see it clearly this ingenuity of him in NT & GT.
The way anime depict his way of fight is so....meh....swinging fist like an ape.
IMO at least it needs to feel similiar to How Tanjiro Kamado figths in Kimetsu no Yaiba
Touma is also Sociapathic, what we see in the LN/MANGA/ANIME is Index/Mikasa/Accelerator/Misaki filter of Touma.
What happened was Touma was picked on and had rocks thrown at him in elementary school because of Imagine Breaker it got so bad that the teacher encouraged the students to chase him out of school so his father packed him up and sent him to academy city
I'm a bit confused, how does this have to do with anything?
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 It deals on Touma's real mentality especially that one fight where he was laughing maniacally after his arm got cut off
@@Crazycoyote-we7ey
Oh that, yeah even when he was acting no one in their right mind would go "Imma scare the shit outta this fool" after dismemberment.
He does have some traits of sociopathy, as with his morality which is more in line with what villains follow, only that instead of doing bad stuff he does good stuff.
Great video!
I love the psp game OST too!
Same, they really capture the mysterious sci fi theme of Index and I love that
Song name?
He showed it many times but anime never really explained it
Whenever I try to explain it to anime onlies they call it plot armor
They should have explained it in 2nd fight against accelerator but they ended it in talk no jutsu
that speech was good
Every attack of misaka he negated he predicted correct place to use his hand
Against accelerator before breaking accelerator's finger in railgun version
touma predicted accelerator's move and bended his upper body to douge his attack
he uses talk no jutsu on girls but it works only after a hard punch
Finally, people who didn't read the light novel always be like pLOt
Honestly sad that im finding this video now.. gonna link this to all the assholes dissing out on TouMAN. Thank you!
At least you found it :^) you're welcome and thanks for the support
Waiting for the podcast
Actually birdway talks about it if I remember correctly saying anyone else wouldn't be as strong with imagine breaker she called it minds eye I believe
@Kamijou Medi I actually dont remember that part I do know before the whole Hawaii arc that kinda was explained
The ost is from Toaru PSP game
I like the idea that Touma has a precog esper ability. As for why he is a level zero and has an ability, well, its a rank assigned to him when they do tests to measure and determine abilities. We know IB can negate stuff so it perhaps negates the tests giving an inaccurate reading of Touma.
I'll always thought that some things can get through to that touma hand and some can't. Like iron sand is small enough to cancel once then cancel all meanwhile a literal brick if he touched it the cuz big enough it would still suck to get hit by it even if he cancel it.
It does make wonder in the past why don't use the hand as a shield like weapon
Nice thumbnail
Thanks!
guess that makes sense he lives in a place with high AM energy and probably developed like a 6th sense to it
More like 7th sense, since he can also beat the shit out of Saints with it, and only guys with 7th senses could do that to a saint (Saint Seiya reference)
He doesn't sense the energy, he sees actual "movements". He subconsciously picks up on things like blinking and breathing to avoid and predict attacks.
[[[O]-causal] : [Void-[O]] being Infused with Ahamkara influence = such [[O]-causal] Forces Breaking the [old rules] and any forms of Acausal systems, etc.]
ah yes, the not as well known secret ability, *PRECOG*
I think the precog works better with supernatural related. It could work like spider sense.
When it comes to none supernatural he just simply rely on his experience
1:37
noti gang btw 😎
@@AeonofHorus 😳, he likes da comment
The og ultra instinct?
Yeah
How can I get my friend into index/Railgun, but also keep him interested considering that the early arcs of both shows are so boring? I’ve been hyping up season 2 and beyond for both shows but I don’t know how to not underwhelm/turn him off from watching the show if he doesn’t like the beginning to each show. So basically how to I convince him to stay interested?
Maybe show him the sisters arc in railgun s. If he likes it then get him to start the novels.
@@AeonofHorus I tried that, they dropped it. Lol
I think season 1 of index does a lot of interesting things, Index and Deep Blood arc being extremely underrated. Index 1 feels the most natural start, especially when Railgun s1 is p mid.
@@nicovoth7243 I guess you have a point on the natural start. You could always just slap them with one of the novels.
Talk about index everytime you meet them, it's like you're not interested in cooking but you know lots of it because your loved ones are chefs
Nice video but where was the outside stimulus for an avalanche of rocks and snow? also can we truly be sure that accelerator's explanation is correct cause rensa showed that Touma's precognition is crippled without reading facial expressions meaning Touma cant actually sense aim. Since it mostly relies on facial expressions that means he should be able to dodge attacks from the likes of acqua who's first attack was just him standing still and swinging his mace but he is rendered unable to react and has to have itsuwa bale him out the same itsuwa who was speed blitzed by terra who Touma defeated with relative ease.
@@craytherlaygaming2852 thanks got any other answers
@@craytherlaygaming2852 that's the thing though how did Touma not react in time when acqua is standing perfectly still and barely using any power and itsuwa did who was speed blitzed by terra who Touma easily defeated.
@@craytherlaygaming2852 yeah its probably cause he was focused on itsuwa rensa also said Touma does better by himself then in groups theres also his fight with carrisa where he was kicked and launched 10 metres this is well under super Sonics speeds he should be able to dodge but he doesn't.
With Saints it's like Sasuke's first fight with Rock Lee Touma may be able to predict thier attacks but what's the point if his body can't keep up he just lacks the lighting fast agility and speed to keep up with them.
@@WokeandProud Touma straight up re directed lightning in the railgun manga so does that mean saints move faster then lightning
So I guess that this is his esper ability (I haven’t read the light novel yet so IDK)
Nah its not, it's from fighting experience and Imagine Breaker
You have gt Picture so im guessing you read the novels?
@@xail7088 I have but not GT yet I only have this pic because it looks cool
Yo touma has the answer talker
This power's basically Spider Sense, but only against magic and supernatural powers, he still struggles and loses against normal fighters.
If this power extends to normal fighting like martial arts, Touma would be nearly unstoppable, only Saints have the upper advantage against him due to their superior speed and strength being a perfect counter against his Ultimate Eye.
It works on normal attacks too, it just seems less effective, but it still has helped him survive a completely non-supernatural land slide.
@@kenshanparchman6838
'Less effective' just means 'only as good as a gut feeling' in this case.
My point still stands, it wouldn't do much against normal attacks.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 Less effective is relative, it doesn't put him on a normal human playing field. The land slide (more like a tsunami) I mentioned was 100 meters wide and 15 meters tall. He used his precognition to get out of it with no lethal injuries and went on to do another fight a few hours later. He's reacted to normal bullets and non magical attacks from saints.
I think for Touma, this would be fun to call "dragon sense" !!!
@@kenshanparchman6838
Reaction does not equal to prediction.
He most likely reacted to those like any normal human would do.
I mean when you see a gun pointed at you wouldn't it be natural to just run away?
Rensa hard counter to Precog
I think Touma really has a precognition because in Christianity, God has a power called All-knowing, it means that God knows the past the present and the future that is precognition but its still not complete yet. Remember Touma has a name called "The One who Purifies God and Slays Demons". I think the one who purifies God is the one Above God,
I always thought that there was one level 6 esper in this anime. I also thought there could only ever be one level 6 at anytime. So ya Kamijou Touma is level 6 and because his power is to “Deny ALL other power” there can’t be any other level 6. That’s why his power negates magic, blessings and esper power.
Nein :p
@Kamijou Medi not an esper??? I total misunderstood the anime. cool idea though right? everyone trying to reach a level but because someone is already there no one else can obtain it.
@Kamijou Medi no imagine breaker has nothing to do with the abilities of an espers! on the contrary, imagine a breaker and a seal that allows him to contain his true power! and on top of that the power of imagine breaker existed before espers even made their appearance.
You want to know how I know that someone has this ability it was because of FanFictions
oh wow
Even if touma can predict how the saint's attack and place imagine breaker in time, he'll still be beaten up by the brute force of the saints.
He was never able to defeat saints every time he fought them he got his ass kicked
Aqua used him has a skipping stone he got admitted to hospital
Kanzaki beated him
Silva
If he can manage to execute the DS form of NT22R, he can keep up with saints
I have a question so about touma IB is it the same strong than aleister IB
Both ib are same
After aleister lost ib it took touma has it's host
Aleister tan than why he lost against othinus and the magic gremlin
@@cloudstrife4866 what do you mean he lost
Ib is strong enough to destroy a attack from gungnir which can destroy galaxy i suppose
@@cloudstrife4866 gremlin didn't fight him using magic they used normal method
Like training themselves to make them physically stronger and skilled in hand to hand combat
They know that imagine breaker can cancel magic and they also know that physical attacks without using magic can kill touma
Aleister tan oh so what are you saying touma wins against those gremlin and othinus
Now explains how Accelerator beat Kakine 😔
Plot armour
@@kazune2469 How accelerator beat kakine was explained in the anime pretty good. Haven't you heared their conversation during the fight?
I feel like the reason why accelarator can beat kakine it's because of his platinum wings and he uses vector manulation that can destroy almost universe if accelarator uses his magic wings kakine would've been dead
@@cloudstrife4866 No! When he beated kakine, he was at the first stage of his black wings and didn't even got his white wings yet! He has beaten kakine by taking control over his Dark matter and using it against him.
@@justsomeguywithgreenhair his first magic is angel of death right?
You know when people say "plot armour", It's anime's fault not theirs
Not really it is butthurt accelerator fans and delusional railgun fans who say that touma has plot armor
It's toxic accelerator fans who say that
Nah it's accelerator fans who take it to large extent
It's like even if he breaths it's plot armor to them
@@ProhibitedIndex666 yea
@@bernkastel7435 😂😂😂 i agreed you accelerator fans are toxic why you blame railgun for that.also you insult Kirito character for touma
I don't understand why it is called precognition that is the ability to see into the future you see something happen before it happens it can be from a few moments to years into the future so that is why I don't understand why it is called that it should be called extensive analysis which is the ability to analyze something at an exponential rate along with adding that to touma's reaction time would make more since then precog.
Other translations call it "sense of foreboding" or something similar, but precognition simplifies it.
Also, Precognition varies across fiction and can have different rules, with some being similar to Touma.( He predicts the future, just with a different method).
He uses talk no jutsu XD
season 3 is dung. I grudge the anime staff who put the original like in the battle of two people.
The reason why touma wins accelerator is because accelerator despite having an incredible high intellect... he’s a fucking bastard that wants desperally to humiliates his opponent so he NEEDED to punch touma back instead of just keeping up the long ranged attacks that touma can’t counter
Precognition is the ultimate plot armor
@A Certain Medi Don't bother. The guy is either trolling, or a Moron.
Sorry to say this but Accelerator wing's are ultimate plot armor
Don't forget about Accelerator wings.
Which is true "plot armor".
@Kamijou Medi 😂😂😂😂 cut hand come dragon is not plot armor
@@333Rando so that mean ssj Was plot armor 😂😂
The problem with precognition is, it's just a theory Accelerator was thinking about.
Even in the novels later, it's barely even mentioned. (and mostly it's useless)
He developed this ability because he was fighting strong espers and magicians in the past? What kind of explanation is that?
Especially if the author constantly telling the audience that Touma is a complete beginner and his past "experience" is no even worth mentioning.
That makes that statement insuffisant.
Honestly for me, Precognition is just a sudden excuse for Toumas Plotarmor because the author thought:
"Oh right, let's add some random ability so we can explan why Touma always wins his fight. But don't forget, he is just a normal Highschool Boy and not special at all. We need to keep remind our readers that."
He doesn't even know himself he got this "power". Their enemy just assumes it.
It's not like Haki from One Piece, where this is an ability people know about.
The idea of Touma getting a new ability is not bad, but like this? Not for me.
Its actually hinted at early on in volume 1, so its hardly sudden. And its basically what carries him in fight in every major fight in series, even after this one. Fiamma, Birdway, Rensa, Othinus, all refrence his precog directly or indirectly and they all happen after this fight.
Touma, over the course of 7 months has done over 45 fights(more than some professional fighters do in their entire career) against various mages, assassins, espers, angels, demons and gods, each with their own bizzare gimmicks that Touma has to adapt to on the spot. And that excluding the 1000's of fights he's done with othinus.
Touma is a "beginner" in world were people his age can master several different fighting styles as children and essentially become child soldiers.
My comment just plot armor he literally have ichigo and Nastu and all anime character plot armor combained to give it to touma
That's what author did with Accelerator
@@bernkastel7435 i swear the Touma haters will never give up on being that no matter how much you explain to them or compare 😴
Plot armor, plot armor is noisy. Why do I have to be told only in Kamijo?
He had it since volume 1, how is it plot armour?
Plot armor for blind people,but he has doged attacks from volume 1.
And anime even shows his strategy in fights.
Wtf is wrong with you?? Learn how to write first
Touma cannot beat accelerator without plot armour. Even with precognition, how is he going to stop 100 tiny rocks or a massive bolder from killing him, even if he uses his right hand the weight of the rock would kill him, controlling vectors is one of the most broken abilities in anime, touma can’t compete. The mind control girl might be able to beat him though
Accelerator never did it
He tried to bury touma in snow but snow didn't settled down
Touma only fought accelerator with imagine breaker which is seal
And touma has total 17 dragon's which are broken with more than 3 abilities
And there is invisible thing which destroyed attack which was capable of destroying planets
In index adapted volumes Accelerator was able to stop earth's rotation and throw a building ( in novel it was wall) and stop a continent being destroyed
His fights are well explained in LN so it isn't plot armor
He doesn't have to stop the attacks, just move out the way. Why would he try to catch a giant boulder?
Stopid. Accelerators are also plot armor. In the first place, thanks to the Academy city, I was able to be an able person. I'm not against Kamijou, who originally has an Imagine Breaker.
Aside from vector manipulation, it's not that strong. It's not limited to Kamijo, but other guys are behind their abilities and they're being.
Garbage Anime only
nothing here made sense. when misaka uses her railgun on him, she aims it and charges it. no matter how fast the actual attack happens. he clearly sees where its going to hit with just his eyes and guards in accordance. this video is over complicating it.
Nah he can't it moves 3 times speed of sound
Her lightning attacks are faster than that
He can see her attacks but without precognition he can't predict right place to use his arm
In the railgun manga he catches it despite not even seeing her aim it. The full explaination is needed to show how he does things like that on a regular basis.
interesting, never checked the manga.
man it's not this complex just plot armour
True man accelerator wings can be just called plot wings or ass pull wings aeon just makes it complicated
Accelerators power is not complex its just plot armor
@@333Rando hand cut come dragon it is not plot armor
@@kazutokirigaya826 it isn't because it is established from start of the series and when did Accelerator growing Wing's was established ?
It isn't even his powers Aleister gave it to him
Touma never won a fight. Script does. I'm still triying to understand how can stop supersonic attacks
Same way he avoids lightning, which is even faster.
I guess you only watch Accelerator parts
Touma never stopped supersonic attacks that's the reason why he lost to Aqua moron
And he can react to attacks faster than speed of sound.
Accelerator gets wing's because of script
Like how Accelerator won against Amata, komaba, Coronzon and Kakine?
Accelerator never won a fight. Script does.
@@333Rando becasuse they are boring street dog level villain
Hidden ability is plot armor
It's all there. By the way, you are reading the original novel ?
I read a bit then got busy with work
@@DannyOnlineX1 Thank you for answering my question.
Dude don't give accelerator's powers to other characters
That's shittylatteor's hidden ability which is ranked level 6
And he also has asspull power ranking level 5
Plot vomits powerups so that he can survive
I would have agreed but sorry to say this but Hamazura and accelerator exist in same universe so no
Hamazura is rencarnation of plot armor and accelerator is the guy who reached level 6 in plot convince
PLOT ARMOR, no more explanation, touma should have been dead since the first fight
Nope
First fight do you mean against kanzaki
She can't kill her enemy even if she wanted
He fought people stronger than accelarator before where index started
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Against amata ?
Then against kakine in second fight?
.then against nepthysis ?
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@@333Rando i mean, of course, but i didnt count that as she didnt seem willing to actually kill touma, i think its pretty obvious