Tama Rosewood Mastercraft Snare Drum Refresh

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @bonniebarber6114
    @bonniebarber6114 Год назад +13

    Snare cleaned up nicely and sounds great. Holy Grail drum for any Tama enthusiast.

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +2

      I'm still (at some point) going to get the finish back to the original darker stain... I absolutely love that look). Thanks for commenting!

    • @sarojaband4664
      @sarojaband4664 Год назад +1

      @@drumdotpizza Great vid. I own an all-original 1984 version of this drum. Absolutely one of the best snare drums ever made. I annually hand apply sandlewood oil from India to this drum, as rosewood is a porous wood and can dry out over time. You can also use rosewood oil, or any oil used for exotic wood conditioning. Several very thin applicatiions really conditions the wood. The sandlewood oil has a very unique, beautiful fragrance as well. Excellent restoration and demo. Thank you.

    • @westbrad6808
      @westbrad6808 Год назад +1

      @@sarojaband4664I hope this isn’t a dumb question. Should one oil the inside of the shell? I have a Canopus zelkova I will oil on the outside for sure, seems inside could use it but I suspect it’ll darken too. Thanks

  • @johnyam1906
    @johnyam1906 Год назад +3

    Saw this exact Tama Rosewood and decided not to grab it because the bent badge and missing original lugs and muffler. It's an excellent restoration work! Really bring it back to life! 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +1

      I'm glad you passed on it, thank you!!
      I will, at some point, remove and flatten the badge and install with a new grommet, I'm sure (and likely darken the finish a tad, though will likely leave that to a qualified furniture restorer... I don't think slapping some stain from Home Depot is wise for this drum).

  • @dfgivens
    @dfgivens Год назад +2

    About 25-years ago, I bought a perfect example of these drums with a super thick shell, in the 6.5" depth. It was the best sounding snare drum I ever heard...just amazing. One day I went to play the kit, and the shell had exploded! It completely blew out in a vertical crack running through a clean section of the shell wall. (No holes or seams near the crack at all!) There was no visible flaw. The dealer took it back, no questions asked. We both almost cried looking at it. It's always been the saddest loss of a fine drum I have witnessed in 50-years of drumming. Then, they cost $300...NOT ANYMORE. :^(

  • @TomCawoski
    @TomCawoski 11 месяцев назад +3

    Very nice restoration!!! Snare sounds and looks great although I'm not a fan of the internal muffler. Most audible on the higher tunings. The muffling just tends to kill the sound of the snare. I personally like the ring as it give the snare some character. To your point of internal vs external muffler, I think the internal muffler pressing up on the head would affect how the drum feels and would add resistance to the stick when hitting the drum. I'm sure this would be subtle but when I play I can feel the difference between a Remo Ambassador and an Evens head but I have also been playing for nearly 50 years. Another great video. I appreciate your channel!!!

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  8 месяцев назад +1

      I prefer ring too... but I love internal mufflers. The sound they have is different than other types of muffling devices on the market. I had it cranked on pretty hard for these examples (so it was obvious the. muffler was on). Some people dig a dead, punchy sound (I have a couple of producers who like that sound, and I like that I can get it with the flip of a switch... just appeals to the geek in me!)

  • @drummerboy38305
    @drummerboy38305 Год назад +2

    Very Nice! Great Job On Your Restoration!

  • @dogcatbird
    @dogcatbird Год назад +1

    Dark and bright simultaneously!

  • @johndiraimo1444
    @johndiraimo1444 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, I love the high tunings best without the mufling. Rosewood really sings with a nice attack and bouquet afterwards.

  • @aparker507
    @aparker507 Год назад +3

    Rosewood snares are the best!

  • @StevesRykerAdventures
    @StevesRykerAdventures Год назад +2

    Nice looking snare! Love your playing.

  • @mikecurry2903
    @mikecurry2903 Год назад +4

    Man, that snare sounds great! Thanks for sharing.

    • @ryanclark895
      @ryanclark895 Год назад

      Great sounding snare and great demo

  • @rapidohernandez
    @rapidohernandez Год назад

    That Mid-low blew me up!

  • @TheModel59
    @TheModel59 Год назад +3

    As usual , really interesting stuff . This is now OFFICIALLY my favourite drum channel !You realise , of course , you will have to do a tuning video !

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +2

      Snare drum? Bass drum? I don't use rack toms a lot (well... in these videos anyway... they get in the way of the camera's view of the snare). I'd be happy to do a tuning video(s) if you think people would like it. Thank you for the suggestion!

    • @TheModel59
      @TheModel59 Год назад

      @@drumdotpizza I'm certain your viewers would love to see your approach to tuning.
      Snare and bass , especially.
      I think what I am asking for is a universal starting point ; top/bottom, back/front and then go from there depending on the need.
      Jeepers , it's complicated!

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Год назад

      @@TheModel59Kenny Sharretts is the guy for drum tuning. ruclips.net/p/PLqCTXYRCGXclh3ZIsbADHzNJppb1R6tAq

  • @ivorjones9961
    @ivorjones9961 Год назад +1

    That sounds amazing! would love to have one.

  • @iantouzel638
    @iantouzel638 Год назад

    Man, you did it right ! Awesome snare, great playing. I wish i got one.

  • @Leslie-b3d
    @Leslie-b3d 10 месяцев назад +1

    New ones are spot on.

  • @drumdiscussion7776
    @drumdiscussion7776 Год назад +1

    Awesome gem there! These are pretty rare to find.

  • @valclements1244
    @valclements1244 Год назад +3

    I thought the drum sounded pretty generic until the Medium High tuning, then it came into it's own, but again, failed one step higher. Like all drummers, you get to know any snare drum has a sweet spot when tensioning it, and that's the goal for the player, to find that spot. So many times, I've tried a snare in a shop and it sounded superb, but needed new heads and a clean up, only to find that by making those changes, I'd lost the essence of the drum's sound. Probably the reason the previous owner never bothered to tinker with the drum as he'd/she'd found the drums sweet spot. Great video presentation though

  • @paulbila9430
    @paulbila9430 Год назад +2

    Looks and sounds great, man! I think the lighter coloration lets the grain show through real nicely. I have a '91 Tama Rosewood 14x4 that punches way above its size, it too has that same fading, but I love it! Love your content man, keep it up! 🤙

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Год назад +2

      I prefer the lighter shading also. Tama made a Limited edition Birch/Bubinga snare with the darker stain on the outer Bubinga ply and while it’s nice I prefer the lighter shade.

  • @gordgibson6654
    @gordgibson6654 Год назад +1

    At first I thought it was a spotted gum! Oh man does it ever look and sound so nice, a beautiful drum to be sure. Loved the low tuning and when you threw the muffler on, it sounded gated.

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I REALLY wish manufacturers would bring back internal mufflers. They are SO useful and convenient.

    • @gordgibson6654
      @gordgibson6654 Год назад

      @@drumdotpizza Yes, I really like the guick action one from Tama

  • @paulmora2480
    @paulmora2480 Год назад +1

    This drum sounds 🔥

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 9 месяцев назад +2

    I kick myself for not buying a rosewood and bell brass back in the day. I also liked the fiberstar.

  • @theswime945
    @theswime945 Год назад +2

    Thank you so much for this. By now we're familiar with the refreshingly modest way in which you present your tuning/playing/recording prowess, and concentrate on providing the salient information. I've been a fan of Mastercraft snares forever but here in the UK have never seen a Rosewood for sale. There was a Bell Brass on that famous auction site a few years ago but the starting price was £5,000... Anyway- in all honesty, I think this is the closest I've ever heard on YT to my holy grail of snares (appreciated the different tunings & muffler comparisons). I have several wood and a couple of steel Mastercrafts, and I think (!) I know how to tune and play drums, and a little bit about recording, but this one sounds incredible. I could honestly write an essay but erm I won't (at least on here). I wonder what the furniture restorers would have done/charged?.. Cheers.

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +1

      Thank you for your kind words! Much appreciated.
      Yes, I am a HUGE Mastercraft series fan (have a Cordia Artstar, Rosewood, Steel (6.5" and 5") and a custom 8" Imperialstar (which I built from a 14" tom shell) as well as a Bell Brass clone (built for me by Cade at Savage Drums -- exceptional work and all original hardware --- stunning drum!), I LOVE the Mastercraft drums.. something amazing about the snare response and just about the only drums that I really dig die cast hoops on, for some reason. I normally prefer flanged hoops on my snares, but Mastercraft drums just don't sound quite right to me without the cast hoops. Weird.
      I will, at some point (probably sooner than later) address the faded finish on this rosewood drum as I really want the look of the original finish (which matches my late 90s Tama Rosewood snare... a gorgeous, dark, lustrous look). It'll give me a chance to smooth out the badge too. Rosewood is quite oily as woods go, and many finishes don't take well to it as to other hardwoods, so a little expertise is in order (which I don't currently have). So I'll continue to do my research and very well may take it by the furniture restoration shop and let them handle it. We'll see.
      Yes, I think this drum sounds spectacular -- nicer than my Artstar Mastercraft (and a Birch Atwood version I used to own). If you can find one, snag it, though it will likely cost you a fair amount! I was close to pulling the trigger on one just shy of $2000 when I found this one for $1100 with the wrong lugs and hoops (which I already had), so I grabbed it instead. Still not cheap, by any means, but a real keeper that I'm confident will only appreciate in value.
      Now I want a Fibrestar version!! ;)

  • @thomasnussbaum4711
    @thomasnussbaum4711 9 месяцев назад +1

    Had to watch it again, because I've placed an order on the limited reissue model...

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  8 месяцев назад +1

      Congrats! The folks at Drum Center of Portsmouth were telling me about those last week! Tama did their homework on their old designs, it seems!

    • @thomasnussbaum4711
      @thomasnussbaum4711 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@drumdotpizza Indeed. I hope it doesn‘t take too long… Already have a roll of gaffers tape and a CS black dot waiting…😉

  • @Svensson1971
    @Svensson1971 Год назад

    Thanx for sharing! 🙂

  • @Petra123-
    @Petra123- Год назад

    Mid low sounds best punchy and explosive with less overtones and ring which if you want to tuned higher, you just put on the muffler. killer snare and sound.

  • @mikegaydos879
    @mikegaydos879 Год назад +2

    Love this video and the tuning range demos! I have a similar 80's Superstar snare with the rollers, and I need to source the lugs that tighten down and grip the snare wire straps. They are an odd diameter - any advice? Thanks in advance

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад

      Do you mean the screws that hold on the metal piece that 'pinches' the straps for the snare wires, holding them in place? If that is what you mean I do not know what thread is used for that, but earlier drums had philips screws while later versions used key rod type screws. I assume (but could be wrong) that both use the same thread pitch, but I'll have a look at my drums (I have both types) and see. Further, I'll run by my local hardware store (which has an amazing fasteners section) to see if there is a direct substitute/replacement for these.
      I'll let you know what I find out! Thanks for being here!

    • @mikegaydos879
      @mikegaydos879 Год назад +1

      @@drumdotpizza yes correct - I'm referring to the screws that tighten the metal piece that pinches the straps that come off ends of the snare wires. Mine are drum key rods - small and short in length and diameter (not philips screws). These short key rods snapped in half and I am looking for help locating replacements - thanks

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +2

      @@mikegaydos879 Okay, went by the fastener store and found that the thread used on those is 4mm 0.7 pitch. Typical 4mm screw will work, BUT... the size of the head (typical pan head Philips screw) is too large a diameter to fit down inside the recessed portion of that metal piece like the originals do. I did find some stainless Allen head machine screws (#3.0 Allen) that fits perfectly inside that recessed portion, so I bought enough for several of my drums (they were $0.95 each at my local store, but I'm sure you can get them for much cheaper online if you want to go this route).
      I'm honestly not a fan of drum key operated screws for applications like this as it allows for WAY more torque than the job requires leading (often) to bent metal and stripped threads (and screws that have been torqued in two ;) This is fairly typical damage I've seen on drums I've purchased over the years. For this reason I've always been happy to use traditional flat head and Philips screws for snare wires (and smaller drivers to keep from over tightening). It just doesn't take the torque that people often inflict to keep the wires firmly attached.
      Anyway, I'm switching to the Allen screws for my drums using this strainer and recommend the same for you. But if you really do want some of the original key rod types like your originals I'd be happy to sell some clean ones that I have. If you're interested feel free to contact me through Facebook (drumdotpizza), and let me know how many you need.
      Hope that helps!

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 Год назад +1

    1:50 What about those tape strips on both sides of the wires?
    EDIT : I guess it is not tape but a kind of cloth to prevent wires from ratling when you store snare drums in your studio.

  • @RCuoco
    @RCuoco Год назад +1

    Wow, that snare sounds amazing at every tuning. I know you're a fan of internal dampeners. If I were to buy and install one on a drum, is there one you would recommend? I briefly owned a Sonor Benny Greb snare. I loved the internal dampeners. Ended up returning the drum because I actually thought my 13x7 Tama G-Maple sounded better (and was half the price) and the two weren't different-sounding enough for me to justify keeping both. Still one of my favorite snares.

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад

      The 2nd generation Tama One Touch (used on this drum) is my favorite internal dampener that I have used. Can be set to a particular tension and then flipped on and off instantly. Brilliant concept!
      They pop up on online auctions occasionally. The 1st gen is okay, but the 2nd gen is nicer to me... more stable and easier to operate.
      As for more traditional designs (screw type) Rogers is back in business, and theirs is quite robust. Most others are pretty lightweight, though almost any work quite well. I prefer ones that don't stick too far out into the middle of the drum (to be hit by a stick). Some of the cheaper, generic internal mufflers of asian origin seem to be longer than others, getting in the way of the stick a bit more.
      Hope that helps! Thanks so much for chiming in!

  • @ClansmanK
    @ClansmanK Год назад

    That to me is the Holy Grail.

  • @terryklender4209
    @terryklender4209 Год назад

    I want one!

  • @malcolmporter8158
    @malcolmporter8158 6 месяцев назад

    I've been wanting to do a snare drum in Brazilian Rosewood and Sitka Spruce. But the price and availability of the Rosewood is a set back.

  • @18aprilia
    @18aprilia Год назад +1

    That floor tom is thunderous! What is the thickness of that shell and what heads did you use on it?

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад

      late 70s Ludwig, 16x16. Shell is almost 1/2" thick (just shy) 6-ply heavy maple/poplar construction (my favorite drums!).
      Heads are Aquarian Texture Coated batter and Classic Clear underneath.
      Thanks for being here!

  • @williamfotiou7577
    @williamfotiou7577 Год назад +1

    Wow! I was shocked how good and fat it sounded at low tuning. A lot of drums sound wonky that low, but that drum was fat and controlled! Nice playing too, 🥁

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +2

      Rosewood is pretty unique in that regard... most tone woods will tune low, and with some EQ can sound pretty fat, but rosewood just seems to live there beautifully without much processing.
      Thanks so much for your comment!

  • @chromebull884
    @chromebull884 Год назад +1

    Sounds awesome! What is the purpose of the extended snare slots and the rollers for the snare wires?

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +1

      Great questions! I just did a video on this, actually. Please check it out for answers: ruclips.net/video/ptLa4S00xeg/видео.html
      Thanks so much!

    • @chromebull884
      @chromebull884 Год назад

      @@drumdotpizza awesome thank you!

  • @bahgo
    @bahgo 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds like Alex!

  • @Camcodrummer
    @Camcodrummer Год назад +1

    I've owned many Tama Rosewood snares. Just my opinion but the late 80 early 90 models are the best sounding due to them getting away from the roller/ extended wires.

  • @brianphillips9152
    @brianphillips9152 Год назад

    Awesome find there! What were the factory bearing edges on this snare?

  • @CiaoGibson
    @CiaoGibson 11 месяцев назад +1

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles 4 месяца назад

    I wonder what the before and after would sound like

  • @nino__2997
    @nino__2997 11 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have to change the bottom head tension for the different turning ranges? I have difficulties to differentiate whats medium high/low, though I've found my low and high.

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  8 месяцев назад

      I generally don't mess with bottom tension... it's always pretty tight. I will adjust the wire tension with the batter tuning, however. Batter tuning totally changes the way the wires respond, so you have to adjust those together.

  • @SONORSQ2guy
    @SONORSQ2guy 4 месяца назад

    Medium tuning no muffling sounds like Alex Van Halen 👍

  • @matthewpaluch777
    @matthewpaluch777 11 месяцев назад +2

    🤔I have the 1st Gen Tama, Ludwig AVH Signature & the later Ludwig Spl edition. To me the Tama has the most AVH "BROWN SOUND" out of the bunch.

    • @aparker507
      @aparker507 10 месяцев назад +1

      Would you be interested in selling/trading that Ludwig AVH Rosewood?

    • @matthewpaluch777
      @matthewpaluch777 8 месяцев назад

      @aparker507 Sorry, I no longer have it.

  • @Twotontessie
    @Twotontessie Год назад +1

    Sounds good. Floor Tom is massive what is that?

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад

      Late 70s Ludwig 16x16 (heavy 6-ply shell) with Aquarian Texture Coated batter and Classic Clear bottom heads.
      Thanks for being here!

    • @Twotontessie
      @Twotontessie Год назад

      @@drumdotpizza I had those drums. My floor Tom survived an incident when it was run over by a truck. Those shells were something else.

  • @vorkap
    @vorkap 5 месяцев назад

    Wish the bottom head was tuned a bit tighter

  • @kimbye1
    @kimbye1 2 месяца назад

    I would have made plugs from rosewood dowels, glued those in, trimmed them flush and snaded the whole thing and given it a new finish. I think the touchup would have been almost invisible.

  • @miguelruiz8183
    @miguelruiz8183 Год назад

    You need a vintage 83 artstar to go with it

  • @guitaristbiker
    @guitaristbiker Год назад +1

    what crash were you using?

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  Год назад +2

      Crash is 18" K Zildjian "Sweet Crash" (ride is 21" A Zildjian "Sweet Ride" and hats are 14" K Zildjian "Hi-Hat" (yes, just plain "Hi-Hat")).
      The crash developed a crack along the bow (in the direction of the lathing), a few months back which really bummed me out. First time that has ever happened to me (I bought it off a local classified listing, so I'm guessing it was developing already?). I carefully drilled the ends of the crack and then used a dreamed tool to remove some material along it, so the edges wouldn't vibrate against each other (had a strong china cymbal vibe before I did that). You can see the light shining through the 'repair' in the video. I fear the fix will eventually continue cracking, though I'm playing the cymbal in a different area than the damage, and trying not to play it hard. It still sounds good, but sounded nicer still before the crack developed.
      Thanks for your question!

    • @guitaristbiker
      @guitaristbiker Год назад

      @@drumdotpizza the cymbals sound great in the video! I dig how the crash sounds with the "fx" add 😂
      I have a couple of fx type crashes and love the little added trashy sound characteristics
      I just recently traded in a 17" A Custom Projection crash that had the same tiny little crack start out on the bow along a lathing line, totally killed the projection pun intended

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Год назад

      @@drumdotpizzaThe only way to prevent the crack from worsening is to make a hole larger than the crack length. What’s the diameter of the crack?

    • @jimhendrickson9250
      @jimhendrickson9250 8 месяцев назад

      @@drumdotpizza I think you should make a clock out of it if you still have the cymbal It would be a cool retirement option for it, especially if it served you well for a good period of time. With your creativity, knowledge and skill I would be interested to see what you'd come up with for a memorial clock design for the cymbal. You could mount it behind you when you do your shows. IT'S DRUM DOT PIZZA TIME!!!!
      Thanks for helping me get past the pain and frustration I experience regularly from Parkinson's Disease. When I watch and listen to you, I can relax knowing I'm getting QUALITY INFORMATION FROM A WELL STUDIED, PASSIONATE, AND SKILLED PERFORMER AND TEACHER, that in turn has motivated me to hunt down a drum set and start playing again, i gave up on playing when the inflammation and crippling in my hands got to the point where I had to basically tape the sticks to my hands in order to play anymore. I used to be a pretty well respected drummer in my area as I played in bands with my brother through junior high and high school and in between college classes. I can say playing on the same stage as The Wailers, Pearl Jam, Faith No More, 311, Soundgarden etc. Back in those days my brother would often call with a proposition of some sort. He has always had a knack for calling me at the wrong time, usually close to midnight or later. The

    • @jimhendrickson9250
      @jimhendrickson9250 8 месяцев назад

      That night my brother had been hanging out with some roadies from Black Sabbath. I think the main guys name was "Chains" he was the Supervisor of the Road Crew. They had ended up at a strip club downtown and he wanted to know if I wanted to meet Ronnie James Dio, they were doing shots in the background. I figured I better Zoom on down and meet them, because my brother sounded like he may not be in safe shape to drive way across town later, and meeting Ronnie would be cool. When I got there things had settled down a bit. "Chains greeted me, (my brother must have described me well), and he led me back to the corner booth and introduced me to Ronnie who was sitting right next to my brother. For some reason they were intently watching the T.V. I'm gonna tell you something about RJD you may not know. Ronnie was a HUGE New York Giants football fan, I found out that night that he wasn't -just any run of the mill fan of the Giants either. The Giants beat the Redskins that night and as the game ended Ronnie finished his herbal tea he said he always tried to have tea with him. I did catch a 2 minute conversation with Vinny Appice that began with Bonham and ended up with us doing shots with some of the girls there, then he snuck off to their hotel.

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why is it the Tama drum sets sound better with Ludwig snare’s. And Ludwig drum sets sound better with Tama Snares?

    • @drumdotpizza
      @drumdotpizza  11 месяцев назад +2

      One of the mysteries of the world... ;)