Everyone got paid accept you. Still monthly mortgage payments till find a tenant. Is that for a long run investment with practically no cash flow and also for first time buyers? Breakdown was great, but income generation is a bit unclear, only if it goes as rental. Thank you for the video :)
@@LucianaTobalThat's literally exactly what I was thinking. That why they dangel 25k to the seller. Most people don't think like investors. They just wanna get rid of it and move on. They don't want to deal with people in renting.
@@LucianaTobal I think he explained, rent is about 1800 and in 12months you get a break even( and he also said its a preference), you actually increase the cash flow, monthly!
After months of, actually more than a year, of research and trying to figure out how to not get a mortgage and buy in a creative way, I finally learned something substantial. Finally someone who is not screaming in your face and selling you something constantly, but truly teaching. It's obvious the honesty here. Finally! Thanks!
@@jakevegasrealestateshow me someone who is actually selling their house in this market, and whether they admit it or not, unless that property is free and clear, I'll show you a desperate person (and even that's no guarantee cuz property taxes)
Agreed! Been following a bunch of the Sub To Videos for the past month learning A LOT and this video really connected all the dots. Appreciate it Pace and your team!
You're just on here giving out this kind of information for free. Its realistic and shows you dont need 100s of thousands of dollars to get started. I have a deal where there was a death in the family and i started looking up different tactics and im thankful i found these videos. Thanks brutha.
I... a newbie of 5 months into being a Real Estate Investor (and am proud and joyful saying this), became more fascinated, confident, humble, and mission purposed that I was not wrong to say real estate is my passion and life. The more because of watching (and cannot stop) and following Pace. Thanks to Pace with his free training and no-crap approach such as in this YT video. I am in Pace's Elephant Challenge (I immediately got a Subto Student reached out to me when I inquired a Co-wholesaler) and a subscriber on Pace's RUclips channel, but not yet in Gator Method and SubTo Student. Thank you so much.
Pace, I think you presented all that information in as bright a light as is possible. There is enough detail for someone to understand what you're doing and enough direction of where to look if someone wants to break it down further. It's a great overview with enough detail for some to grasp the concepts of all the moving parts. Your sense of humor in presenting info always makes it entertaining.
From a newbee perspective, and lets be honest I hardly know what the word perspective means, This video is very informative and the best part of it is, you can rewind it and watch it again, Thanks Mr. Morby Because you put this together so well, I still believe in myself and the future of my Real Estate carrier, Amen, and God bless you all, and Thanks for all your hard work!
Great strategy if you have three things: -agent or student to find free deals -lots of money in the bank to assume mortgage payments in between rehab and rentals -private money lender with deep pockets who will lend at moments notice An exit strategy is great for a ten year plan but how do I make money over the next ten years? I can’t follow. Also novation and assignment is typically illegal on most mortgages these days. I don’t know how you smooth over these giant obstacles as if they’re no big deal. Works great on white boards only. Sorry to sound cynical but I’ve been in the real estate investor space for a long time and have attempted to employ many of these strategies to no avail. My biggest obstacle to over come has always been financing. I’ve got the creative part, just no banks or investors bite. Maybe it’s my area. Chicago metro Subscribing though and watching some content.
I was wondering the same thing about how you actually assign a mortgage as most are Not assignable, more info would on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Just learning this method but I believe that the mortgage stays in the seller's name and the buyer goes on the deed only. Title is transferred via trust and payments are made in the seller's name. That's the gist of everything I've read so far. However you are correct in that deep reserves are needed for payment/rehabs/transactional costs to seller I am sure there is a sweet spot for properties with this method as the goal would be to find an end buyer quickly and putting as little into the property as you can for rehab purposes
You went well beyond the quota of explaining the process at the most simplest way you could. Your video is very clear and straight to the point very understandable and informative. Please don't make any adjustments to your presentation. The way you produce your information is dead on.
Very helpful that you were so detailed and even better for me is that you give so many real life scenarios….you are awesome! This is something I’ve wanted to do for a decade+ but just didn’t have all the details to actually get it done. But this is exactly what I knew I could do…listening to you is gonna finally make me jump. Yay!
It keep saying error when I try to subscribe but now I’m getting the full break down thank you ❤ I’ve learned more in this video than any other video I’ve watched on RUclips and he is funny too and serious at the same time I actually took notes this time
Awesome job pace, gearing up to joining the Gator Tribe very soon and looking forward to closing my first deal. I don’t think there’s any one on the planet who can teach Subject to, Creative Finance or as a matter of fact Real Estate better than you. Seriously Thank you for all that you do to help others change the trajectory of their future lives .
@@PaceMorbyboss I got a house in Yorktown Virginia 23693 that is similar problem to he had and willing to sell it that way with a 2.89 rate 112 Richard run Yorktown Virginia 23693
This was the first of your video that I watched (out of many dozens) that you wrote down all the steps and numbers., instead of just saying them off the top of your head.
Hey Pace. Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate all your time and effort. I do understand that this is not a necessity for you and that you're not trying to sell anything. And I appreciate you going over everything step by step in order to broader the horizons and shed light on the subject matter. I subscribe to your channel and did as you asked because I want you to know that I do appreciate it. I saw you with Grant cardone on a quick skit in regards to the subject to and obtaining a home taking over the current rate and mortgage. To give you a rundown of myself I'm a sales manager at a Volkswagen dealership. I purchased my first home about 2 years ago. I have a four family with three bedroom units. The house was in disarray but had an excellent foundation such as roof updated electrical and plumbing. So I did a 203K loan where all I really needed was $9,000 3% down and right now I'm living for free and cash flowing$1,300 a month. But not only that in fixing up the house getting new tenants and raising rents I'm currently in a position where I have about $100,000 in positive equity in my home. and I want to keep building and growing to provide a better future from my family. Thank you again for your time and effort. I could use a mentor. To help me build my portfolio. I would love to have a conversation if you have a half some time. I've been thinking about investing in land and putting up prefab apartments. What do you think about that. I want to leverage this hundred thousand dollars to obtain as many units as possible.
New to real estate but have to ask, why would an average investor do a deal like this? I get you can potentially sell in 10 years but what if you cant rent out the space? Also did you include taxes in the monthly payment? Feels like a money drain from the example. That's not even considering potentially large renovations/issues that can happen that 10k wont cover.
Okay, YES, you did a damned good job. I stayed shoulder to shoulder with you for about 99% of it. The 1% I lost was when my eyes glazed over for some reason. What I missed, or you did not elaborate on, was the duration of the PML of the term. As time goes on, and if the market does not collapse, then appreciation will bring you in even greater returns. If you made this into a rental then when you sell you encounter the IRS and its famous recapture tax, UNLESS, you either pursue a 1031 exchange, assign it to your heirs, or find an atty that actually knows how to legally manipulate the system very well. If you have not done a video on how to delay the recapture tax, would you consider doing one? It might help people fight through the fog of some of this. I lost money due to having a bad accountant and an even dumber tax attorney. C'est La Vie. Great video though, and I will reiterate, you did a damned good job.
Dude, love this video. Thank you for breaking it down so well. I passed on a sub to deal as a seller last month and regret it. Sold it conventional and made less than I would with sub to. Lesson learned and never again
There’s way more liability in with a sub to and most lenders don’t even allow it. If they find out someone else is making the payments they can call for the whole loan due in 30 days and if you don’t have it they’ll begin foreclosure
Pace, you did an EXCELLENT job on explaining SubTo. I got my agent for 12 years to finally hear you and she was like WOOOOW why nobody explained that to me... I was like, I tried but you were closed minded...Anyhow, I love your channel and Yes I did subscribed... Thank you very much Auf Viertezen...
But this is just like the other 7 documents that we are not privy to. This is exactly like saying I will tell you all you need to know on how to make a Big Mac just like McDonald's and telling us add the special sauce but not given us the ingredients to make the sauce to put it on the burger 😂😂 @PaceMorby
My husband and I literally listened to this today on a road trip. We are making a subject to offer Monday. Still need to review the Executory Contract, and obtain all required docs as we’re not familiar with that aspect. We are so excited!!! Thank you for this detailed breakdown!!!
This is the first video I’ve watched of yours and I’ve learned more or get the bigger picture in the video’s time frame than I have of hours of bs hype from the so called well known “ x10” , used car salesman types. I do t need to be motivated, I need to be taught. Thank you for the clear and step by step descriptions. Can’t wait to learn more! Good video! Refreshing to have a professional who knows what they’re talking about and happy to explain immediately from the start. To other video RUclipsrs…follow this guy’s lead. I don’t watch RUclips to be intertwined or bs’d..I watch to hopefully learn something. Well done again 👍
that initial phone call is what i keyed in the most. YOU HAVE to have a team in this industry. point blank period. there’s a lot i bring to the table; but mason can’t do it all. (lord knows i would if i could) but building a network of motivated people to seek, search, learn and contribute daily is where the success lives. PACE i watched you live once and you taught this 30 yr lad some lifetime wisdom 🙏🏽 thank you. you have honestly kick started a fire within me. im ready to put my name in the game. im mason again btw. my name will be known
The big catch with this strategy is how do you get over the fact that seller is still on the hook for the mortgage after the sale, and therefore he will need to turn over the responsibility of his credit future to the buyer’s hands. That’s a big deal and wish you addressed this. I would think only a desperate seller with terrible credit (hence not much to lose) or someone who is irresponsible financially will give up control over his credit.
You’re right. I see either you have a proven trusted buyer or out of desperation. That’s where it’s a dog eat dog world. Many people mismanage their lives and that’s an opportunity for you to get ahead. You taking advantage of the situation is likely to improve their situation if as the buyer you actually make the payments you saved them from their mistake and helped them profit. So a through case by case analysis is what’s needed
Awesome video as always Pace! Just discovered you a few weeks ago and SO happy I did! What a great channel! Thank you!! I watched a bunch of your videos for a few days to absorb much education as I could. With my 20+ years of experience in Real Estate I have never done a Sub2 deal but WOW mind blown!!After watching your videos I got right to it calling leads I generated on my own looking for sellers offering sub2 and found one, talked to her and locked it up! Has great terms at 3.6% interest rate no balloon low entry fee and LOTS of equity seller is not asking for! I need a lender or partner on this asap please! Signing contract today! Got this deal with only making 10 calls!! Thank you Pace!! YOU GUYS ROCK!
Finally Pace ,Thank You Bro...I was trying to get a deal and educate owners and agents without education myself...I put my album aside to focus on making my Mom n Pops proud so i was giving up, so I think Im ready...I appretiate u Pace...
Great video!!! Question: how does the seller find a new place if their credit report says they're current on a mortgage (for a house they don't own)? Also, how does the seller minimize counterparty risk of us failing to pay? Thanks!
Probably proof of debt to income ratio. If the current debt of the mortgage is being covered, then any money that the seller is not spending on the current mortgage (because it is being covered by the renters) then they now have an excess amount of funds to cover a new mortgage.
I've heard him mention this in an interview, something about providing the new lender with a copy of the assignment or agreement that shows the assignee to pay the old note. Certainly would want to verify this with lenders to see what they would need to facilitate a new note if you had a sub2. A list of lenders and what they would require would be a powerful tool when talking to a motivated seller.
Been looking at this stuff for a while now I didn't know the title set up servicing. I also finally realize why someone would pay such a high entrance fee for getting a property like this. Initially I thought it was insane the entry price Ive been seeing. Thank you thank you. It's all starting to make sense.
Question. Not sure if you explained this before but How does sub to buyer get the mortgage interest payment at end of yr from lender for tax purposes if debt is still in seller’s name?
I've been doing Subject to for 20 + years. Acquired around 22 to 23 properties this way. But you take it to a hole new level. Your content is Awesome. I just heard about you today. Im going to watch all your stuff. Just wanted to reach out and say thank you. Mitch
Explain please how you change the title/Deed and make payments to the bank when Bank clause states “full loan is due if ownership changes”. Thats my issue.
The private money lender gets his money back when? Are you finding they’re ok with getting monthly payments for the next few years? As opposed to only lending the money let’s say a year or less.
Monthly payments for the next few years?? You borrowed 55k from private money lender, and paying him back $366 a month going to take over 10 years to pay that back
Great video! I would add it to one of the training modules if you don’t already have one like this in Subto. I also scooped up a copy of the book! Thank you so much for all the helpful content.
My brother in law just introduced me and my husband to this concept and Subto! 🎉 We are so excited to learn this! Thank you for the video breakdowns. 🎉
Is there ever a situation where the lender catches wind of transfer of ownership and calls the loan "due on sale"? I've heard some horror stories of this with certain types of deals like this but wanted your experience/opinion. Great video very thorough!
We also asked this question and there has been no response yet. From what we’ve researched, no conventional lender would allow a property to be retitled if they have a lien on it. There’s counterparty risk involved since they dont know the creditworthiness of the new buyer.
@@synvestable8262 @1fullerjason I agree. Waiting on a response. From my understanding the seller is still liable. Although, I assume they would keep the down payment if buyer defaulted. Most concerning issue would be the due on sale clause from lender. I’m curious as to how you get around it. Would be nice if he walked us through a maneuver around these issues, if there is one that doesn’t impose risk.
@@1fullerjason thank you for that! Our overall view of this system is that in only works under specific circumstances. First is that it's under the assumption that housing prices rise forever, which they are not right now. The second is that it's not in a higher interest rate environment because lenders will not allow a title to be changed and will call the due on sale clause. This potentially could work only for VA, FHA loaned properties, but then again the seller's credit is on the hook and they bare all the risk.
Pace you did a DAMN GOOD JOB! And youre sincere and knowledgable. Youre not hiding the golden nuggets which most RUclipsrs are doing nowadays. Ill go watch your seller financing video now. Thanks again
Pace, man. Your explanations are great. I've been looking into creative finace for a while. I even signed up with another mentor but he never broke it down like you have. Greatful for the chance to learn more and make life changing creative finance deals.
Pace you’re crushing it! I’m not even into real estate but I’m gaining an interest in it from all you videos. Your video about setting up LLCs even helped me think a lot deeper before I start my completely unrelated to real estate business. Thanks Bro
What’s the timeline to payback the private money lender his $55k? I see the interest on the money. will be paid in 1 year, just didn’t catch when/how the private lender gets his $55k back.
Excellent info . I am a Realtor and very skeptical but now after listening to you I would consider this option for my seller. I think it would be in her best interest. Thank you
When you take over paying payments on someone’s loan I’m assuming they are still technically liable for that loan. Does this mess up their debt to income ratio making it so they won’t be able to buy another house? What do you do about his and how do you explain this to the seller?
This was my same exact question! Really would like to know the answer because eventually they may be in a better place years down the road and want to buy again
@@Diamond_789 if you follow his podcast he explains it. All they have to do is show proof that someone else is paying the mortgage (most will use a 3rd party mortgage servicing company) and then they won’t count that against your debt to income. Which makes sense because they count my income that I get from rental units without question.
Great content! Thank you so much Pace! I have a question, does the 2020 - 2022 refer to the year the homes were purchased or the year the list were obtained?
The group homes are what i would like to get into here where i live. I coach people that are in recovery. We need more homes here in Ohio for people in recovery.
Your strategy is a really great option to take advantage of low rates that are the hidden gem in RE when rates are outrageously high and going higher. Thank you!
Pace, you have given me new hope for my old man future. I'm a retired motion picture and studio guy. going thru a bad divorce and my ex took everything from me. I thought I was going to have to go back to work to survive, I have watched all of your videos and what little money I had I bought your book wealth without cash, reading it now. Boy I'm blown away. I start to get my pension in November of this year. so I'm just waiting to be able to invest in your Gator mentorship and subto group, would love to get some words of advice and encouragement form you or your team. trying not to give up right now. Thank you for what your are teaching and God Bless you and your awesome team.
I love your content...LOVE your videos...so informative...to the point. I learn more from just 1 of your videos than I've learned spending $1,000's of dollars on other courses! Love your energy and teaching style. Brilliant. Thank you for the amazing editing, too...makes your videos fun to watch and easier to learn.
Pace, I dont know how but I do understand this whole process...I have scheduled a meeting with your team this coming tuesday. This content is awesome, Im sure there is more to this but, I love the way u explain this.... this is my chance to get started in real estate and build wealth!
I love the explanation, I love the presentation, I love the jokes this is absolutely amazing. Sometimes individuals needs to be flamed to learn new things.
Ran into your content through the out-of-state investor summit. Great breakdown! Overviews the complexity of the space in a digestible way ($1634 per month)
Pace . I just wanted to say Thank You ! You probably don’t hear that enough. And on a side note . Yes, I went a little , just a little nuts when you rounded that computation 😅😅. Thanks again for what you and your team are doing.
This was awesome! I get to determine the closing cost which goes into the sellers pocket. I just need the contracts and title fees. THANK YOU FOR SAVING MY DEAL.
Pace this is very exciting and I will be trying to let all these concepts sink in. Does SubTo work in NY State. Are there some banking rules in some states that can prevent subto or get you screwed if the bank finds out about the ownership change?
Pace you did a fantastic job explaining subject to deals. I watched a couple of your interviews on BiggerPockets. Thanks for sharing your expertise with us.
This actually makes sense to me NOW. I did one of your webinar things where I only saw you break down one part of this with your students on a white board, but I felt completely lost. That was probably 3 years ago. Wish I would've started this a long time ago but your classes are still a little too pricey for me. Not that you should lower the amount, get paid your worth all the way.
I'm sure you have already googled this by now, but in case you haven't, escrow is a license/insured 3 party oversees a transaction. Buyer agrees to: X, Y , Z (deposit, amount, etc.) Seller Agrees to A, B, C,. Contracts are submitted to Escrow, then they make sure all details of the Purchase Agreement are completed. The Buyer, puts the deposit money into escrow. The Buyer gets the financing (loan details agreed to by the 'bank'), Title company searches to make sure there are no liens on the property and ready to issue a clean title, etc. If the Seller sad they will fix something, then that is completed. When all details are completed, then Escrow is closed. The deposit is paid to the Seller, The bank funds the loan and pays the Seller. Title Company issues the Title Insurance. The Deed gets recorded. The Agent(s) are paid their fees, etc. Escrow does not 'close' if one of the details is not completed.
So can some break it down please. Maybe my math is wrong $277.500 is house price Payment is 1260 existing loan $55k is closing costs Payment 366 is So real question is 366 is interest payment on 55k borrowed or 55000k/366=150 months which 12.5 years. Payment on it. Does someone has same thing how 366 covering 55K
Everyone got paid accept you. Still monthly mortgage payments till find a tenant. Is that for a long run investment with practically no cash flow and also for first time buyers? Breakdown was great, but income generation is a bit unclear, only if it goes as rental. Thank you for the video :)
Its a co-living property and it cashflows about $1500 per month NET in month.
@@PaceMorbyI ran across your youtube channel and I'm really interested. How do I contact you. Thanks
Why not rent it?
@@LucianaTobalThat's literally exactly what I was thinking. That why they dangel 25k to the seller. Most people don't think like investors. They just wanna get rid of it and move on. They don't want to deal with people in renting.
@@LucianaTobal I think he explained, rent is about 1800 and in 12months you get a break even( and he also said its a preference), you actually increase the cash flow, monthly!
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Awesome!
After months of, actually more than a year, of research and trying to figure out how to not get a mortgage and buy in a creative way, I finally learned something substantial. Finally someone who is not screaming in your face and selling you something constantly, but truly teaching. It's obvious the honesty here. Finally! Thanks!
THANK YOU SO DANG MUCH!!!
I also find PACE very honest & sincere!
A distressed seller is more important than a distressed property.
It distress seller is high motivation!!!
Ok and how do you find a distressed seller
@@jakevegasrealestate pre foreclosures are the best way to find distressed sellers.
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@@jakevegasrealestateshow me someone who is actually selling their house in this market, and whether they admit it or not, unless that property is free and clear, I'll show you a desperate person (and even that's no guarantee cuz property taxes)
I think I learned more on this video than I have in the past 10 years
THANK YOU
Agreed! Been following a bunch of the Sub To Videos for the past month learning A LOT and this video really connected all the dots. Appreciate it Pace and your team!
Thank you! @@brucepomerleau7068
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You're just on here giving out this kind of information for free. Its realistic and shows you dont need 100s of thousands of dollars to get started. I have a deal where there was a death in the family and i started looking up different tactics and im thankful i found these videos. Thanks brutha.
Thank you Nick!
I... a newbie of 5 months into being a Real Estate Investor (and am proud and joyful saying this), became more fascinated, confident, humble, and mission purposed that I was not wrong to say real estate is my passion and life. The more because of watching (and cannot stop) and following Pace. Thanks to Pace with his free training and no-crap approach such as in this YT video. I am in Pace's Elephant Challenge (I immediately got a Subto Student reached out to me when I inquired a Co-wholesaler) and a subscriber on Pace's RUclips channel, but not yet in Gator Method and SubTo Student. Thank you so much.
I am in the same boat, I truly believe being a REI is my purpose, I look forward to helping people!
I have a brokerage of 250 agents. Never payed attention to this before. This makes so much since I’m teaching my three sons to do this. Thank you
YESSSSSSSS
Maybe teach your 250 brokers as well.
As a Realtor, I am beginning to learn about creative financing to better serve myself and my clients. Thanks for the information, Pace. Subscribed!
Beth, you're being smart and willing to learn to stand out, that's awsome.
Hey Beth, what area of the country do you work in? Trying to build a network of smart, open minded agents. Please let me know!
Pace, I think you presented all that information in as bright a light as is possible. There is enough detail for someone to understand what you're doing and enough direction of where to look if someone wants to break it down further. It's a great overview with enough detail for some to grasp the concepts of all the moving parts. Your sense of humor in presenting info always makes it entertaining.
Thank you sir! Truly appreciate this comment!
From a newbee perspective, and lets be honest I hardly know what the word perspective means, This video is very informative and the best part of it is, you can rewind it and watch it again, Thanks Mr. Morby Because you put this together so well, I still believe in myself and the future of my Real Estate carrier, Amen, and God bless you all, and Thanks for all your hard work!
Great strategy if you have three things:
-agent or student to find free deals
-lots of money in the bank to assume mortgage payments in between rehab and rentals
-private money lender with deep pockets who will lend at moments notice
An exit strategy is great for a ten year plan but how do I make money over the next ten years?
I can’t follow. Also novation and assignment is typically illegal on most mortgages these days. I don’t know how you smooth over these giant obstacles as if they’re no big deal. Works great on white boards only.
Sorry to sound cynical but I’ve been in the real estate investor space for a long time and have attempted to employ many of these strategies to no avail. My biggest obstacle to over come has always been financing. I’ve got the creative part, just no banks or investors bite. Maybe it’s my area.
Chicago metro
Subscribing though and watching some content.
I was wondering the same thing about how you actually assign a mortgage as most are Not assignable, more info would on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Just learning this method but I believe that the mortgage stays in the seller's name and the buyer goes on the deed only. Title is transferred via trust and payments are made in the seller's name. That's the gist of everything I've read so far.
However you are correct in that deep reserves are needed for payment/rehabs/transactional costs to seller
I am sure there is a sweet spot for properties with this method as the goal would be to find an end buyer quickly and putting as little into the property as you can for rehab purposes
You went well beyond the quota of explaining the process at the most simplest way you could. Your video is very clear and straight to the point very understandable and informative. Please don't make any adjustments to your presentation. The way you produce your information is dead on.
Very helpful that you were so detailed and even better for me is that you give so many real life scenarios….you are awesome! This is something I’ve wanted to do for a decade+ but just didn’t have all the details to actually get it done. But this is exactly what I knew I could do…listening to you is gonna finally make me jump. Yay!
It keep saying error when I try to subscribe but now I’m getting the full break down thank you ❤ I’ve learned more in this video than any other video I’ve watched on RUclips and he is funny too and serious at the same time I actually took notes this time
Glad you're enjoying! Thanks for being here
Awesome job pace, gearing up to joining the Gator Tribe very soon and looking forward to closing my first deal. I don’t think there’s any one on the planet who can teach Subject to, Creative Finance or as a matter of fact Real Estate better than you. Seriously
Thank you for all that you do to help others change the trajectory of their future lives .
THANKS MAN!
@@PaceMorbyhow do I become a student ? I’m very interested in learning and growing I would love the opportunity thanks.
@@PaceMorbyboss I got a house in Yorktown Virginia 23693 that is similar problem to he had and willing to sell it that way with a 2.89 rate 112 Richard run Yorktown Virginia 23693
@@blewcheese5386How’s the journey? I’m on the same path
This was the first of your video that I watched (out of many dozens) that you wrote down all the steps and numbers., instead of just saying them off the top of your head.
Hey Pace. Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate all your time and effort. I do understand that this is not a necessity for you and that you're not trying to sell anything. And I appreciate you going over everything step by step in order to broader the horizons and shed light on the subject matter. I subscribe to your channel and did as you asked because I want you to know that I do appreciate it. I saw you with Grant cardone on a quick skit in regards to the subject to and obtaining a home taking over the current rate and mortgage. To give you a rundown of myself I'm a sales manager at a Volkswagen dealership. I purchased my first home about 2 years ago. I have a four family with three bedroom units. The house was in disarray but had an excellent foundation such as roof updated electrical and plumbing. So I did a 203K loan where all I really needed was $9,000 3% down and right now I'm living for free and cash flowing$1,300 a month. But not only that in fixing up the house getting new tenants and raising rents I'm currently in a position where I have about $100,000 in positive equity in my home. and I want to keep building and growing to provide a better future from my family. Thank you again for your time and effort. I could use a mentor. To help me build my portfolio. I would love to have a conversation if you have a half some time. I've been thinking about investing in land and putting up prefab apartments. What do you think about that. I want to leverage this hundred thousand dollars to obtain as many units as possible.
WOW thank you so freaking much!
Subject 2 for dummies...you are explaining very well.
You explained it so well & really made it simple enough for any serious person to understand. Thank you so much.
THANK YOU PACE FOR SETTING THE STANDARD FOR CREATIVE FINANCING TECHNIQUES ❤
New to real estate but have to ask, why would an average investor do a deal like this? I get you can potentially sell in 10 years but what if you cant rent out the space? Also did you include taxes in the monthly payment? Feels like a money drain from the example. That's not even considering potentially large renovations/issues that can happen that 10k wont cover.
Okay, YES, you did a damned good job. I stayed shoulder to shoulder with you for about 99% of it. The 1% I lost was when my eyes glazed over for some reason. What I missed, or you did not elaborate on, was the duration of the PML of the term. As time goes on, and if the market does not collapse, then appreciation will bring you in even greater returns. If you made this into a rental then when you sell you encounter the IRS and its famous recapture tax, UNLESS, you either pursue a 1031 exchange, assign it to your heirs, or find an atty that actually knows how to legally manipulate the system very well. If you have not done a video on how to delay the recapture tax, would you consider doing one? It might help people fight through the fog of some of this. I lost money due to having a bad accountant and an even dumber tax attorney. C'est La Vie. Great video though, and I will reiterate, you did a damned good job.
Dude, love this video. Thank you for breaking it down so well. I passed on a sub to deal as a seller last month and regret it. Sold it conventional and made less than I would with sub to. Lesson learned and never again
Can you explain how you made less selling conventional? Thank you
There’s way more liability in with a sub to and most lenders don’t even allow it. If they find out someone else is making the payments they can call for the whole loan due in 30 days and if you don’t have it they’ll begin foreclosure
Pace, you did an EXCELLENT job on explaining SubTo. I got my agent for 12 years to finally hear you and she was like WOOOOW why nobody explained that to me... I was like, I tried but you were closed minded...Anyhow, I love your channel and Yes I did subscribed... Thank you very much Auf Viertezen...
Excellent video. Question. Are there clauses to protect you from a seller who files bankruptcy?
Yes there sure are!!!
But this is just like the other 7 documents that we are not privy to. This is exactly like saying I will tell you all you need to know on how to make a Big Mac just like McDonald's and telling us add the special sauce but not given us the ingredients to make the sauce to put it on the burger 😂😂 @PaceMorby
Got 3 pages of notes and lines all over the place … looks like schematics for building a home! Well… building wealth! Pace, you’re breakdown is 🔥
Yesss! We love to see it!
Pace always breaks down deals in such a way, that it motivates one to take massive action!!
This video can not be any clearer… I totally get it. @Pace I love how you explain real estate in plain language!
I do it for the people who are like me and need it explained thoroughly ✌🏼
My husband and I literally listened to this today on a road trip. We are making a subject to offer Monday. Still need to review the Executory Contract, and obtain all required docs as we’re not familiar with that aspect. We are so excited!!! Thank you for this detailed breakdown!!!
I know Pace is the best!! Good luck to u both on this new endeavor!!
Did you get an attorney to draw up the documentation?
Damn good job 👍
Did you end up doing it? did it work?
This is the first video I’ve watched of yours and I’ve learned more or get the bigger picture in the video’s time frame than I have of hours of bs hype from the so called well known “ x10” , used car salesman types. I do t need to be motivated, I need to be taught. Thank you for the clear and step by step descriptions. Can’t wait to learn more! Good video! Refreshing to have a professional who knows what they’re talking about and happy to explain immediately from the start. To other video RUclipsrs…follow this guy’s lead. I don’t watch RUclips to be intertwined or bs’d..I watch to hopefully learn something. Well done again 👍
Quick question - How are you getting 55k over value of the property as a second at 8%? Doesn't seem to have any collateral for this loan.
that initial phone call is what i keyed in the most. YOU HAVE to have a team in this industry. point blank period. there’s a lot i bring to the table; but mason can’t do it all. (lord knows i would if i could) but building a network of motivated people to seek, search, learn and contribute daily is where the success lives. PACE i watched you live once and you taught this 30 yr lad some lifetime wisdom 🙏🏽 thank you. you have honestly kick started a fire within me. im ready to put my name in the game. im mason again btw. my name will be known
That's the spirit!
The big catch with this strategy is how do you get over the fact that seller is still on the hook for the mortgage after the sale, and therefore he will need to turn over the responsibility of his credit future to the buyer’s hands. That’s a big deal and wish you addressed this. I would think only a desperate seller with terrible credit (hence not much to lose) or someone who is irresponsible financially will give up control over his credit.
You’re right. I see either you have a proven trusted buyer or out of desperation. That’s where it’s a dog eat dog world. Many people mismanage their lives and that’s an opportunity for you to get ahead. You taking advantage of the situation is likely to improve their situation if as the buyer you actually make the payments you saved them from their mistake and helped them profit. So a through case by case analysis is what’s needed
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pace talks about this. IF the seller wants a new house he can call the lender and have this mortgage removed from their debt to income ration.
I see the biggest issue with cash flow basically covering nothing and if you need to exit you should find a group home or start an AIRBNB.
Right. A newbie with no track record might default and then the seller is screwed.
Awesome video as always Pace! Just discovered you a few weeks ago and SO happy I did! What a great channel! Thank you!! I watched a bunch of your videos for a few days to absorb much education as I could. With my 20+ years of experience in Real Estate I have never done a Sub2 deal but WOW mind blown!!After watching your videos I got right to it calling leads I generated on my own looking for sellers offering sub2 and found one, talked to her and locked it up! Has great terms at 3.6% interest rate no balloon low entry fee and LOTS of equity seller is not asking for! I need a lender or partner on this asap please! Signing contract today! Got this deal with only making 10 calls!! Thank you Pace!! YOU GUYS ROCK!
That's so awesome! Congrats! Find PMLs in the free Facebook: paceapproves.com/freefb-ytc
Thanks for breaking it down step by step! Fantastic job!
Finally Pace ,Thank You Bro...I was trying to get a deal and educate owners and agents without education myself...I put my album aside to focus on making my Mom n Pops proud so i was giving up, so I think Im ready...I appretiate u Pace...
Great video!!!
Question: how does the seller find a new place if their credit report says they're current on a mortgage (for a house they don't own)?
Also, how does the seller minimize counterparty risk of us failing to pay?
Thanks!
Probably proof of debt to income ratio. If the current debt of the mortgage is being covered, then any money that the seller is not spending on the current mortgage (because it is being covered by the renters) then they now have an excess amount of funds to cover a new mortgage.
I've heard him mention this in an interview, something about providing the new lender with a copy of the assignment or agreement that shows the assignee to pay the old note. Certainly would want to verify this with lenders to see what they would need to facilitate a new note if you had a sub2. A list of lenders and what they would require would be a powerful tool when talking to a motivated seller.
Been looking at this stuff for a while now I didn't know the title set up servicing. I also finally realize why someone would pay such a high entrance fee for getting a property like this. Initially I thought it was insane the entry price Ive been seeing. Thank you thank you. It's all starting to make sense.
Question. Not sure if you explained this before but How does sub to buyer get the mortgage interest payment at end of yr from lender for tax purposes if debt is still in seller’s name?
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You (buyer) log in to their account when you first buy the house and change original owner’s mailing address to yours. Really easy.
Forget what people complain...you teach us as detail as we should learn...
Thank you Pace for taking the time to break things out so that newbies will understand! Keep up the good work! Dam good Job!
YOU ARE SO WELCOME!
I've been doing Subject to for 20 + years. Acquired around 22 to 23 properties this way. But you take it to a hole new level. Your content is Awesome. I just heard about you today. Im going to watch all your stuff. Just wanted to reach out and say thank you.
Mitch
Welcome Mitch! Glad you enjoyed
Explain please how you change the title/Deed and make payments to the bank when Bank clause states “full loan is due if ownership changes”. Thats my issue.
Greetings Pace, does this work in Australia? Gratitude bro.
The private money lender gets his money back when? Are you finding they’re ok with getting monthly payments for the next few years? As opposed to only lending the money let’s say a year or less.
Pace’s philosophy is LOAN to OWN that’s what he mainly teaches. Would recommend you to check out one of his videos where he talks about PM.
Monthly payments for the next few years?? You borrowed 55k from private money lender, and paying him back $366 a month going to take over 10 years to pay that back
@@ckkendrick7861 Right! & Why would a lender lend money on a no equity property?
@@pethacks3653 I know. Seems hard, but I don't think that sub to is easy to begin with. To me sub to is the hail marry to sell a home
“A broker who is broker than you” I am using that Pace. Great info, clear and simple in your delivery. Thank you
Great video! I would add it to one of the training modules if you don’t already have one like this in Subto. I also scooped up a copy of the book! Thank you so much for all the helpful content.
Excellent breakdown . If I missed a point, easy to stop, rewind a bit and review, then go on. I'm a newbie and it was VERY helpful.
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. You did a damn good job!
My brother in law just introduced me and my husband to this concept and Subto! 🎉 We are so excited to learn this! Thank you for the video breakdowns. 🎉
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Is there ever a situation where the lender catches wind of transfer of ownership and calls the loan "due on sale"? I've heard some horror stories of this with certain types of deals like this but wanted your experience/opinion. Great video very thorough!
Asked the same question, would interested to know
We also asked this question and there has been no response yet. From what we’ve researched, no conventional lender would allow a property to be retitled if they have a lien on it. There’s counterparty risk involved since they dont know the creditworthiness of the new buyer.
@@synvestable8262 @1fullerjason I agree. Waiting on a response. From my understanding the seller is still liable. Although, I assume they would keep the down payment if buyer defaulted. Most concerning issue would be the due on sale clause from lender. I’m curious as to how you get around it. Would be nice if he walked us through a maneuver around these issues, if there is one that doesn’t impose risk.
He responded to my other comment and said, “it has happened to us a couple times and there is a solution IF it happens” but didn’t give any details
@@1fullerjason thank you for that! Our overall view of this system is that in only works under specific circumstances. First is that it's under the assumption that housing prices rise forever, which they are not right now. The second is that it's not in a higher interest rate environment because lenders will not allow a title to be changed and will call the due on sale clause. This potentially could work only for VA, FHA loaned properties, but then again the seller's credit is on the hook and they bare all the risk.
Excellent break down!!! People should watch it at least twice maybe three times to understand and let it sink in!!
Exactly, this is the way to do it!
You are killing it Pace!! Thank you for the content. Making it easier to understand for the common man or woman.
Pace you did a DAMN GOOD JOB! And youre sincere and knowledgable. Youre not hiding the golden nuggets which most RUclipsrs are doing nowadays. Ill go watch your seller financing video now. Thanks again
Pace, man. Your explanations are great. I've been looking into creative finace for a while. I even signed up with another mentor but he never broke it down like you have. Greatful for the chance to learn more and make life changing creative finance deals.
What's up Pace. I found Your RUclips content about a month ago. U are truly a remarkable man, and I'm grateful to be able to learn from You!
Pace you’re crushing it! I’m not even into real estate but I’m gaining an interest in it from all you videos. Your video about setting up LLCs even helped me think a lot deeper before I start my completely unrelated to real estate business. Thanks Bro
What’s the timeline to payback the private money lender his $55k? I see the interest on the money. will be paid in 1 year, just didn’t catch when/how the private lender gets his $55k back.
i am curious to know too
Excellent info . I am a Realtor and very skeptical but now after listening to you I would consider this option for my seller. I think it would be in her best interest. Thank you
Hey @bobtomes5131 If you ever need a transaction coordinator to help you with paperworks, let me know I can help you,
When you take over paying payments on someone’s loan I’m assuming they are still technically liable for that loan. Does this mess up their debt to income ratio making it so they won’t be able to buy another house? What do you do about his and how do you explain this to the seller?
Also what if the wholesaler stops making payments. As the seller I'm still on the mortgage but no longer on the deed. That would be a scary situation.
This was my same exact question! Really would like to know the answer because eventually they may be in a better place years down the road and want to buy again
@@Diamond_789 if you follow his podcast he explains it. All they have to do is show proof that someone else is paying the mortgage (most will use a 3rd party mortgage servicing company) and then they won’t count that against your debt to income. Which makes sense because they count my income that I get from rental units without question.
Pace you are a great teacher , the details are on point
Great content! Thank you so much Pace! I have a question, does the 2020 - 2022 refer to the year the homes were purchased or the year the list were obtained?
That’s exactly where I want to bring value where kevin position at 🙏🏽
The group homes are what i would like to get into here where i live. I coach people that are in recovery. We need more homes here in Ohio for people in recovery.
This video is way too long and I wish you would have gone into more detail!;)
Lol
The pace was perfect
Yes. Videos long but I’m learning so much and rewatching it so I can relearn it.
Love this master class in real estate investing! Love seeing the full picture!
Yes subscription is on the way!
dude, you did a great job! I’m not even in this industry, but I completely learned this from scratch from you, and completely understand it
Your strategy is a really great option to take advantage of low rates that are the hidden gem in RE when rates are outrageously high and going higher. Thank you!
Love the slow breakdown.
You are an incredible teacher! Made it so simple and easy to understand.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video
Pace, you have given me new hope for my old man future. I'm a retired motion picture and studio guy. going thru a bad divorce and my ex took everything from me. I thought I was going to have to go back to work to survive, I have watched all of your videos and what little money I had I bought your book wealth without cash, reading it now. Boy I'm blown away. I start to get my pension in November of this year. so I'm just waiting to be able to invest in your Gator mentorship and subto group, would love to get some words of advice and encouragement form you or your team. trying not to give up right now. Thank you for what your are teaching and God Bless you and your awesome team.
I love your content...LOVE your videos...so informative...to the point. I learn more from just 1 of your videos than I've learned spending $1,000's of dollars on other courses! Love your energy and teaching style. Brilliant. Thank you for the amazing editing, too...makes your videos fun to watch and easier to learn.
Pace, I dont know how but I do understand this whole process...I have scheduled a meeting with your team this coming tuesday. This content is awesome, Im sure there is more to this but, I love the way u explain this.... this is my chance to get started in real estate and build wealth!
I love the explanation, I love the presentation, I love the jokes this is absolutely amazing. Sometimes individuals needs to be flamed to learn new things.
Well said!
Great work....and seasoned with Humour!....
I came over from your joint work with Jerry Norton...ton of excitement and value..
Love Jerry! Thanks for being here!
Ran into your content through the out-of-state investor summit. Great breakdown! Overviews the complexity of the space in a digestible way ($1634 per month)
Pace . I just wanted to say Thank You ! You probably don’t hear that enough. And on a side note . Yes, I went a little , just a little nuts when you rounded that computation 😅😅. Thanks again for what you and your team are doing.
I knew there would be some lol
These editing skills are on point not to mention how you talk about the expectations pace, especially 16.29 blah blah blah blah, blah epic.
This was awesome! I get to determine the closing cost which goes into the sellers pocket. I just need the contracts and title fees. THANK YOU FOR SAVING MY DEAL.
I'M BEGINNING TO SLOWLY UNDERSTAND THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CONCEPT... SUBTO.. ITS PRETTY COOL! THANK YOU FOR THE INFOR..
Glad you're enjoying!
This is the first time I have seen this explained. It makes complete sense and was easy to follow. Now to find some motivated sellers and PMLs.
Michael, connect with my students in the FREE Facebook group paceapproves.com/communityytc Let them know what you have and what you need!
OMG this was so good. Thanks for breaking this down in such detail. This was a masterclass!
Pace You did a great job!
No. Your the SHIT! foreal. vERY REAL> VERY RAW> Breaking shhhi down perfectly. thk u!
Pace this is very exciting and I will be trying to let all these concepts sink in. Does SubTo work in NY State. Are there some banking rules in some states that can prevent subto or get you screwed if the bank finds out about the ownership change?
Pace you did a fantastic job explaining subject to deals. I watched a couple of your interviews on BiggerPockets. Thanks for sharing your expertise with us.
This is great, Thank you! I love the breakdown you did and I finally feel like I understand this so much better!
Very helpful! Thanks for the step by step explanation!
I am beyond focused on your knowledge. It's time to take care of my life and Pace you sure have given me direction
Pace...the best thats ever done it
I appreciate your time and expertise good Sir.
This actually makes sense to me NOW. I did one of your webinar things where I only saw you break down one part of this with your students on a white board, but I felt completely lost. That was probably 3 years ago. Wish I would've started this a long time ago but your classes are still a little too pricey for me. Not that you should lower the amount, get paid your worth all the way.
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Thanks Pace for all your teaching - I am learning but still not clear how to succeed/start. Will continue watching
I am 17 years old, and this is your first video I've watched and this made perfect sense just need to figure out what the hell is escrow.
I'm sure you have already googled this by now, but in case you haven't, escrow is a license/insured 3 party oversees a transaction. Buyer agrees to: X, Y , Z (deposit, amount, etc.) Seller Agrees to A, B, C,. Contracts are submitted to Escrow, then they make sure all details of the Purchase Agreement are completed. The Buyer, puts the deposit money into escrow. The Buyer gets the financing (loan details agreed to by the 'bank'), Title company searches to make sure there are no liens on the property and ready to issue a clean title, etc. If the Seller sad they will fix something, then that is completed. When all details are completed, then Escrow is closed. The deposit is paid to the Seller, The bank funds the loan and pays the Seller. Title Company issues the Title Insurance. The Deed gets recorded. The Agent(s) are paid their fees, etc. Escrow does not 'close' if one of the details is not completed.
So can some break it down please. Maybe my math is wrong
$277.500 is house price
Payment is 1260 existing loan
$55k is closing costs
Payment 366 is
So real question is 366 is interest payment on 55k borrowed or 55000k/366=150 months which 12.5 years. Payment on it.
Does someone has same thing
how 366 covering 55K
I subscribe, thank you for the information ❤
Awesome! Thank you!
I am so thankful for your videos and your sarcasm. You're the man, Pace.
I'm starting to understand this and seeing the light! Thank you for this video Pace!