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So glad you brought it up. Absolutely gobsmacked at the fact that the writers think it's attractive to have all of their male leads repeatedly sleeping with prostitutes before being with their lover girl. It's a real ick, and makes it so amusing when they go on to insist that they are 'gentleman'. Um, no. I think we've lost the definition of gentleman lmao
We need a 12 episode season with the number of characters and plot lines we have, also if you don’t want to drop all the episodes at once, 1 episode a week would be so much better as this was fun but unsatisfying
I keep rewatching Polin scenes after they kissed😂😅 like I just skip everything else it’s so useless! I hate that they keep jumping storyline to storyline. Like there are about 4 other relationships shown in this season. Like for effs sake, give them more scenes of longing for each other like Kanthony 🤦🏽♀️🤷♀️
My problems so far: 1. Colin and Pen are on the back burner on their own season. The scenes of them actually together probably wouldn't even be long enough to make one full episode length. And, that is making their relationship feel weirdly rushed. 2. Their relationship is rushed- we go from her being angry with him to engaged in four episodes and they barely have any screen time. There is no romance building. Basically, we have a kiss (that feels a bit lackluster) and then Colin's dream then a few longing stares...right into the carriage scene. We get hardly any moments of them together just talking or showing any romance at all. Honestly, it's difficult to even tell Colin does have feelings for her other than the dream and a FEW stares. That's it. This is a romance show...where is the romance? The tension?! Season one did that FAR better with Daphne and Simon. 3. Tension-- we all know that romance books are all about the tension. And we start out with GREAT tension at the beginning with Pen angry at Colin. However, that's quickly resolved with hardly any payoff. He barely apologizes and they really don't say much about it. It's swept under the rug so quickly. They missed a great opportunity to make Colin pine for her a bit and make him eat his words. And look at all the tension in the first two seasons. Every time the Duke and Daphne danced together. The moment he explains that she can touch herself. Then Kate and Anthony's entire thing is mainly tension. Yet, I felt very little with Colin/Pen. Why not have them dance together and him realizing he likes having her close after the kiss? Why not more conversations between the two where they are just enjoying each other's company? Heck, Colin flirted with everyone BUT Pen in this season. 4. The Proposal- Everything was wrong. It was shot weird. The book had them going further in the scene. And their arguing and the fact that Colin was still upset with her added some spice to it and tension. But all that was removed. And Colin didn't look all that swept away. Pen certainly did, but Colin seemed like he was just kind of...there. Down to cracking a joke right when he pulls back. And then the proposal he smiles when he asks. In the book, he FRUSTRATED (in more ways than one) and that adds tension. For anyone that didn't read the book---this brooding like Anthony. Plus, the engagement feels better with him knowing her secret. He knows everything about he now and STILL wants her. Even knowing all that she's done. THAT is what proved he truly loves her. But here, he doesn't know and it feels wrong. Like when the Duke lied to Daphne in season one. And not good drama wrong. I mean, making Pen more villainous wrong. Plus, it doesn't convey the depth of his commitment to her without the reveal. I just hate it all. 5. The ensemble element- It is getting ridiculous now. In season one they struck the perfect balance. The main focus was on Daphne's story. Everything else was just supporting. Season 2 they definitely crossed the line in extending the love triangle and it definitely took away from the main couple, but still---they were the focus for the most part. But, season 3 barely feels like the same show. It's truly an ensemble. There is NO FOCUS ON THE COUPLE. Heck, Jon and Fran seem to be better focused than Polin in this season, which is why I think everyone is enjoying their story more. But they are putting in stories that shouldn't even have a place. Why are the Mondrichs still even in the show? And why are we showing Benedict with the random woman. We've seen him with randoms constantly. No need to show it again this season. And we don't NEED to fall in love with Jon/Fran because they aren't even an HEA. Their story doesn't matter. We don't need to treat it like it does. Imo, these people need to hire several romance writers as consultants. They don't know how to write for ROMANCE. They are just concerned with writing an ensemble period piece and it's lacking everything. Season one was a great representation of romance. Season two messed up in a lot of ways, but it was still fairly solid. Season 3 is a total breakdown of the genre. And...it's boring!!
This season … they brought in a New writer that’s why …. She really messed up the whole love vibe It messed up everything I agree with everything u wrote
It’s heartbreaking they didn’t have enough faith for Colin and Penelope to pull through and shine for their season They felt they had to include so many story line it only distracted us from the real story
Well....I do SOMEWHAT agree. I definitely think that they are trying to juggle too many plot points at once this season and that it does detract a bit from Colin and Penelope’s story. I previously also felt that things seemed a little rushed this season, however I’ve since changed my mind after reading some more takes on season 3. Tbh, I have not read any of the books. I only know what I’ve seen online (which includes just random spoilers I’ve read + random passages ppl have posted from the books) as well as what I read from the prologue (I only got to read the first half of it). But if you think about it, Polin’s story is not rushed at all. It may seem that way at first-especially given season 2 where Kate and Anthony were most definitely a slow burn-but we have been watching these two specific characters already now for 3 seasons. And they even had a pre established friendship before the start of the show. We don’t need to take the whole season to watch them get to know more about each other because they ALREADY know everything about each other lol. And I think that’s probably the reason why there’s a lack of tension-at least in the romantic sense. We don’t really need to see them dancing around each other or have a buildup to them falling in love. We’ve already known that Penelope has had feelings for Colin since they first met. And obviously the first half of this season focused way more on the fact that Colin was realizing his feelings...or rather coming to terms with them, in my opinion. After all, he’s always loved and cared for Penelope. He holds her and her friendship in such high regard. The only thing they didn’t have was a physical connection, but that changed when they kissed. Especially for Colin. It was like everything connected and suddenly made sense to him. His feelings clearly go beyond that of mere friendship. In any case, I would also like to point out that Daphne and Simon also get together within the span of 4 episodes. The only thing that differs Polin from the other two ships is that they have known each other much longer (again, why we do not get much buildup this season-we’ve already had two other seasons that established their relationship). So I do not think the main problem this season was that the romance was rushed. I do, however, believe they are trying to introduce too many storylines at the same time and trying to tackle them all at once lmao. And, not a huge thing, but personally I am resentful of the fact that you felt the kiss was “lackluster” or that Colin did not look “swept away” enough during the carriage scene lmao. Those were two of my favorite scenes and imo both Nicola and Luke did a great job with those.
So far, I don’t like it, in the book, Penelope was older more confident, she wasn’t dwelling on not being married, she was at that point in her life where she knew it was a possibility that she might not get married, she was going on with her life, she wasn’t doing this pity party that they got her doing in the series. I like the books better.
I was hoping to be blown away by this season but I wasn't. It was so hard for me to truly get into the main love story when they barely had any scenes together before he decided to be in love with her lol
I agree, I think they needed more 1 on 1 time. It seems the writers thought his glances from afar would be enough but it's not enough to see jealousy, we should have had almost touching moments and more scenes like the one where she tells him his eyes are beautiful when he asks her to seduce him as training. That scene was amazing and I wish the rest of the show had kept doing this
I agree it felt so sudden like oh! we kissed and I cannot stop thinking about it, oh she's gonna be married I must not let that happen, oh! I do not like this new personality instead I love Penelope, oh I will go after her, oh we kissed again, lets get married!!! WTF
@@marias.wainwright3481 to be fair, the book was kind of like this too. I wish they would’ve followed the book a little less when it came to their relationship 😭 like give them more time. Change it like how you changed the other seasons
I felt like there was too much going on but colin Penelope story was so little. There was few side stories that never really contributed to the overall plot. I feel like second season was way more intense .this season, the storyline is scattered. I hate one thing though - why did Colin have to be a f*ckboy like anthony? Sleeping around with other girls why? To show the audience he is smh manly? It suited anthony not colin idk why
So far I am not wowed. It felt rushed between Penelope and Collin. I think they did a disservice by splitting up the episodes. Like you said it takes a few episodes for the show to get going… so I hope the second half makes up for it.
Being the owner is still a “job” though, which was improper. An investor/share holder would maybe work, but owning the club would definitely have been considered a working class job though
@@sallyparker11 the club's name is "Mondrich's" isn't it. Therefore it is something that the family can still own, and have the earnings contribute to the family fortune. Investors/ shareholders are essentially the owners of a business/ property. And like I said the issue is not Will owning the club. It is that he was working and serving the patrons himself. That is what he can't continue to do. He must have staff to do so. He could still spend time there, however it would be as a guest with the other gentlemen.
Great review! We all know Pen has been in love with Colin since season 1. I just hate that it took Colin almost losing Pen to Lord Debling to realize she’s been the one all along. Further, Colin is still in a “lust love” with Pen, while Pen is fully in love. I hope we’ll see Colin truly accept Pen for who she is. I want Colin to beg and cry for her the next part.
They did the same thing to Kanthony last season, the writers genuinely don’t know how to write a happy romance without dramatic ass issues and it’s so ANNOYING
The trouble with a friends to lovers story is unlike daphne and Simon or Kate and Anthony, there is no getting to know about each other part of the story, so thematically it makes sense this feels quicker, although I would have love to have seen Colin Green with jealousy for a while longer, But I expected the lady whistledown reveal was gonna be a big part of their story (I haven't read the books so I'm truly uninformed) so I'm gonna wait and see how part 2 plays out that should be when the real drama kicks in
The thing is though, the show kept doing this thing of TELLING us that they were really close rather than showing it to us, and if you didn’t feel the closeness between them in previous seasons (like myself for instance, I’ve always seen Polin as this one sided ‘best friend’s brother who’s just kind of indifferent about me but does care for my safety in general’ kind of dynamic instead of two very close friends) that means the build up is necessary just to further expand upon their friendship so that the penny dropping moment is more effective, and the romance doesn’t feel like it’s rushed or coming out of nowhere. No matter how well we’ve established two characters’ relationship, in a show where the main couple each season needs the primary focus they will always need to be given more depth, especially if stepping up from side characters to main characters and with the show distancing them for a bit and giving arguably more focus to side plots, that results in the friends to lovers just not hitting the way it should.
I thought there was no way this season could be bad, but I was surprised. What was the need for the story of the bar couple, the widow for Benedict, Penelope's family (last season was already enough), a possible love interest for Violet, a lot of Francesca (that's not her season, is it?)? I think everything would make sense if there were more episodes, but that's not the case here. The little bit of each micro-story takes up a lot of screen time from the main couple, and this cools down or reduces the depth of Polin, giving the feeling that it was rushed. I think they should have followed the books if they can't link all the stories in the time they have. Oh, Debling... what a waste of potential.
According to the books, Francesca marries in her first season, basically because she wants it to be over with all that (she is like the introvert on a family of extroverts) *Spoiler ahead* Her love story (in the books) is after she marries....
I think it’s because they changed enough from the books that they couldn’t really use a decent chunk of the actual Polin book and were scrambling. Penelope spends a relevant amount of time in that book having dinner with the Bridgertons - which, they kind of shot her relationship with Eloise. They sped up the timeline to where other parts of the book aren’t necessarily relevant - this book takes place nearly a decade after the first book - and Penelope doesn’t feel like a spinster in the same way because of it. And the significance of the Lady Whistledown mystery is more lackluster because they kind of killed the intrigue for it and had it revealed already
It felt very split up. A little bit of everyone having a bit of story line and not alot of focus. Im kind of hoping it narrows in on just one or 2 stroy line progressions. I was kind of hoping for some more longing and tension for polin. Rather than obvious looks and then jumping right into it. Not enough build up IMO. Plus I know they are going to create drama for the couple in the next half. - y can't they just have a trouble free friends to lovers story - there is always stress. And it stresses me out. (BTW Loved Eloise & Cressida storylines.) I actually really liked the new love interest for pen and thought their story and getting to know each other & chemistry was much more believable. Would have been nice to see polin have more conversations together - about his travels and what she had been up to. Thier bond was implied but they didn't seem to build on that relationship at all. It still felt young, situational and superficial - rather than a deep true friendship. Didn't like bennidicts story line felt very tacked on, which I guess fits well as his lack of purpose in life was translated through the screen with his story line. I feel bad for Poor Cressida - she tries so hard but never lands the man it seems....well not so far anyway.
im just gonna say it... till now, im actually shippinh debling and pen...idc what anyone says, he genuinely took interest in her FOR HER. colin only realised his "love" for her after a kiss and a wet dream!? (lazy on the writing part and honestly, not romantic enough) with debling, she could've had it all...making them fall in love wouldn't be that hard if apparently, it takes only a kiss. also, call me prude, but after getting ignored FOR YEARS, pen melting so quick for colin is unsatisfactory to me, yea! im talking abt the carriage scene. all in all, unless the next part blows me away, i dont see the polin hype.
I completely agree..there was some connection and chemistry between pen and Debling...Colin and pen only have steamy scenes , that's in , no love or understanding, like what made Colin fall in love with her anyway?
@froggywithaheart I agree, I loved his honesty and his way of just listening to pen. He knew what was going on between pen and colin how are the rest of the bridgertons and featheringtons so blind??
2:03 OMG FACTSS. URGHH it really annoyed me that Colin was doing u know what with random girls 😒 It's so dam unnecessary. It's like they want to say he's yearning for that in his life, but relationships are so much more than physical intimacy
I enjoyed most of Colin and Pens parts but I feel like this season 3 feels like a filler season before Benedicts season comes. They missed out a lot of important character development parts! Penelope meant to behave like she doesn't know how to kiss a man. Why was she doing it so perfectly in the show??? In the book she stays still while Colin kisses her and then he stops and tells her you know kissing is for two people so you need to kiss me back so the second time she kisses him back. Can you imagine that tension and chemistry if we saw that on screen!!! Ahhh and he's meant to be infuriated with Penelope when she's reading his journal entry. They didn't linger on that feeling long enough and when he cuts his hand he's meant to tell her he's fine and push her away because he's still embarrassed about her reading his private thoughts but she pushes and insists on taking care of his cut. It happened so fast that scene probably only took 1 minute??? And then when the two people were dancing like swans I believe at Queens ball, the guy looked similar to Colin the hair and the body build and Pen knew she was going to her proposed to by Debling but while she was watching the two people dance it looked like she was thinking of Colin and her long lasting love for him and whether she was making a big mistake as she hadn't told her feelings to him and given the situation a chance because what if he did like her back. So that moment they should have replaced the dancers for a moment with Pen and Colin dancing together like swans. Oh and the carriage scene when he's running after her imagine showing him struggling to catch up to the carriage so much more dramatic like what if she gets away!! They just focused on Pen in the carriage upset most likely because it was fake and green screen and in a studio so they can't show him running after carriage but come on there's a way around it take the carriage outdoors then we only need to see 2 or 3 seconds of him struggling after the carriage
Yeah I hate thot Colin but I love the featheringtons I think they are fun. If I am getting rid of plot lines it's def Will and his family, why do we keep coming back to them? I just don't care. Francesca story is so sweet and pure. Seeing more Brimsley was so much fun, I still want to know what happened to Reynolds 😩.Overall I had a great time with pt 1. The last 5 minutes made it all worth it. Also we def do not need to worry about Shonda lol
Penelope should’ve given herself compassion while writing as Lady Whistledown instead of shaming her own self publicly for having Collin help her get married. Honestly, S3 part 1 is not robust enough to be split into 2 parts. I feel so sad! 😭😩😩 It was a good business decision for Netflix only 😒😒😒
honestly, while it made me sad for her it makes sense that Penelope would write about herself this way. She's very hard on herself, and after being embarrassed so badly the night before, of course she would believe that her actions were stupid and ridiculous. also, it would look suspicious if lady whistledown wasn't hard on her, since she's hard on basically every person in the ton. if lady W gave her some grace, the ton might follow, but Penelope can't take that risk, and already thinks those awful things about herself to begin with.
Probably also because after almost losing Pen to another man before, he has realized there is NO WAY in hell he would ever be able to watch her marry anyone else. He’s not gonna make that mistake again. He knew he was gonna ask her himself so he allowed himself to go further with her because once she admitted she wanted him too, that’s it. She was his. He also asked for consent the whole way if you pay attention. He asked to be let in the carriage and didn’t go in until she said yes, he waits to kiss her until she admits her feelings for him, and before he puts his hand up her dress 🙈 he stops and looks to her. You see Penelope nod to him and THEN he continues. He is still a gentleman.❤🔥 CONSENT👏🏻IS👏🏻SEXY👏🏻 Hahaha. So tired of seeing men saying that asking for consent the whole way through an interaction kills the mood…not if you are doing it right sir! Are you the Featherington sisters? Should we explain sex to y’all?
I couldn’t agree more with what you’ve said. I was so excited for Polin season, and while I loved it, it just feels like something is missing from part one, and I can’t place what it is. I enjoyed the side plots, but sometimes I feel like there’s sometimes too many to fit in an eight episode season. The side plots often take away from the main couple, and that was my biggest issue with season 1. Nicola and Luke did well with what they were given but there wasn’t much time for development and everything felt rushed. I did love the end of episode 4 though! I hope part two is better, but again feels like we will have a lot going on with the Lady Whistledown reveal. I genuinely feel like Nicola and Luke’s interviews sold the season more than the actual season.
I also agree with the fact that Nicola and Luke's chemistry offscreen in interviews was so much better and they hyped it up. I remember nicola saying that this season was romantic?? Finished the 4 episodes and honestly I didn't find any romance
@glorydmello exactly my thought , they hyped up the show soo much with all the promotions and interviews...and it turned out to be so mehh..no romance or chemistry at all
@lifeofehs Genuinely curious... what was romantic? Pen flirting with Colin 1 time or the 1 kiss they shared which Colin turned into a sexual thing? Oh and Colin didn't even flirt with her once. Not even once. cause in season 1 and 2 we got the emotional connection before they ever shared a kiss. Sure pen and colin are friends and he cares for her and she does the same for him, but I don't think that even before they shared a kiss that Colin ever even came to terms with recognising his actual feelings for her. The talk with his mother couldn't have possibly been the catalyst for all that. The kiss would have been romantic if he hadn't dreamed about getting off to it. I'm just hoping that Pen gets revealed as whistledown before they get married and THEN he has to be like "Oh I really love pen and I cannot live without her and I need her in my life safe and unharmed, and if she gets exposed I WILL DIE, so I am going to do everything in my power to help her" or something along those lines.. otherwise pen would be going into this marriage with lies and deceitness and Believe me when I say I'm a pen fan and a diehard one at that but this season is actually killing my love for the bridgerton writers for understanding why people love enemies to lovers but somehow missing the whole point and reason for why people love friends to lovers...
I think Season 4 should be a combination of Eloise's story and Francesca's story. Because Fransesca marries John Stirling then he dies and she eventually marries Michael. I agree with you that the little moments of Franscesca shown in Season 3 was just beautiful
Agree with everything except 2 things :- 1) Featherington Plot was not bad. It was rather amusing and entertaining, and a breath of fresh air from all the flashy shiny stuff happening elsewhere. 2) I think the way I saw Colin's journal writing was, that the, show telling us that he has matured, and is slowly finding himself, by turning from a boastful person into a mature & secure man, finding enjoyment in private matters as well. That's all. I agree with everything else.I 😇 Love your videos. Huge fan of your PJO stuff. Great review.🥳
I agree about the Featherington plot! I found them very entertaining (and it helped give even more dimension to Pen). Her dynamic with her mom is particularly interesting. It seems like Portia really is trying to do what she thinks is best for Penelope, even though she's totally off base, and she did look upset when Penelope confronted her at the ball after she didn't get a proposal. I've just always found the Featheringtons to be fun and tacky and hilarious, each to their own :)
For me, Kate Anthony scenes were awesome. I won't lie I hated how we got the just in 1 episode for 5 min. I didn't feel Polin chemistry. Franc and Michael book was one of the favs and I did like her. I am sad Ben was not given a better story line
I hate that he keeps being given partners. His thing in the books was being so hung up on the Girl in Silver that he couldn’t fathom the idea of falling in love with someone else and it’s at least implied he hasn’t tried for any relationships in the gap after the ball
The fact that they managed to make him boring this season is CRAZY- like they didn’t even use his artist storyline as a clutch, it’s just more of ‘Benedict sleeps with a woman’
Right?! I was so disappointed with what they did to Benedict!!! I much would have preferred to learn more about him and his artistic pursuits now that he’s not in the art academy rather than him sleeping with new woman.
I feel like I’m in the minority when it comes to the Francesca plot line. The actress is STUNNING to be sure, but her character bored me so much! I would’ve rather had more Polin scenes. My part 1 stand out plot lines are the main romance (obviously), the conflict bw Pen & Eloise, the humanization of Cressida & her rather sweet friendship w/ Eloise, and the Mondrich family trying to navigate their new place in society.
I completely agree. She and her story feel so out of place with the rest of the Bridgertons and not in a good way. I feel like this is why the writers didn’t want to give her her own season because now it’s like they’re trying to do two or more Bridgerton’s love stories per season which is just..too much! And also very annoying when precious screen time (with what little time they have to work with in an 8 episode season) is wasted on a boring plot with boring characters and lazy writing
I don't think you're in the minority. I felt the same way and have seen SEVERAL other people say the same. They also gave her story WAY TOO MUCH screen time. If they'd incorporated her more in the other two seasons it might have annoyed me less, but she's a blink and you miss her character in the other seasons, and now we're expected to find her endearing and care about her incredibly boring storyline.
💯 I thought they were going to have Eloise profess her love in that last scene. That whole thing made me so angry, the made Eloise the worst in this adaptation.
@@logan8513I don’t understand why they want to stress the inclusivity that is very unrealistic for the time of the story. I read all the books and although I like the first two adaptations and the diversity works, for this one with Francesca’s love interest and the guy for Lady Violet, it just seems like they are trying to shove the “you need to accept the diversity”. Like really? This wasn’t how it was in the books. I also didn’t like Benedict being with a widow and Eloise possibly hinting at having a lesbian storyline. I hope they don’t change the storyline for these two.
With over 2 years between seasons, there's no way they will do all eight books. The actors are going to get too old for the parts and they're going to take other work.
@@koa64 in the books a few storylines take part at the same time and there are some time jumps. Especially in Francescas book. If I was them I would do Benedict's story next while Elouise is busy doing something that will tie into her season, then its Eloise's season (in the book she's a spinster when she finally marries,) after being married for 2 years its then Francesca's story which also includes a 4 year time jump which will line up nicely for one of the younger sibling's stories the following year.
This season really should’ve been Benedict’s, it’s obvious they don’t know what to do with him as a side character anymore and Polin actually needed to develop their friendship properly before delving into the romance, the build up in previous seasons is just too minimal and lacking and so it feels rushed this season, so far at least.
The threesomes are very weird and I’m sure they aren’t as frequent in the books. Hollywood pushes threesomes like they are a regular occurrence when in reality most normal people don’t have them. There are a lot of weirdos in Hollywood.
Same! I love that romantic musical gesture! I'm really not feeling chemistry between Colin and Penn, I mean I don't like Penn anyways, but still tried giving them a chance, but nah.
I have to say that Colin new flirty personality reminded me of Frank Churchill from Emma. I swear that the writers were watching Emma while writing the first half of this season. I’m not sure if I like it.
Reading thru the comments, it doesn’t seem like people are as excited or rabid fans of Polin the way people were with Kanthony last season… i havent watched season 3 yet but i hope the chemistry is good
I was excited and was so disappointed after watching. I don't care for Daphne and Anthony as characters. Colin and Pen seemed like my type of trope and they dropped the ball. I wish Pen had more suitors, I wish she had the glow up before the season started, internally and externally. I wish Debling actually loved her for her. I wish Colin had a better reason for loving her. To me it seems like none of them have grown at all as people. Ughhhh. Hopefully part 2 will be better.
Let me put it this way: I watched S2 for Kanthony, I watched S1 and S3 for the side plots. As much as I wanted to support Penelope's season (I was so excited to have her as romantic lead), I have to say Polin feels cringe and unnatural, partly because the series failed to turn Colin into a credible (and likeable) romantic lead, partly because of incredibly bad writing. But do watch the season and make your own mind!
And can we talk about the music in this season? It was so not memorable to me, I cannot recall a single cool piece I heard in part 1 😩 I watch the opening scene in Germany from Queen Charlotte ep 1 just for that soundtrack alone! I hope season 3 part 2 makes a good comeback
The only one that stood out for me was the instrumental version of Snow on the Beach from TS' Midnights during one of the earlier balls. I couldn't identify any of the others.
I think the the whole feel of the show is drastically different, it's not as bright and it's fun and it's witty as the first two seasons. The dialogue is off, the cinematography is different, it's really lacking.
In the books, I like Felicitiy's story the best. The new actress is beautiful but a piece of cardboard could act better. She is not at all engaging or emotional. Also why are the men now in bridgeton so ugly, whatever their ethnicity. I was so looking forward to John and Michael.Where is Rege,Johnny types when you need them?😢
I think there is a big pacing issue with this season. I feel like Colin’s growing love for Penelope wasn’t convincingly built up because of the short window. The final episode was whiplash lol. I mean, I’m not mad about it 😂 but still…
Actually they kind of did mention his interest in writing, just in a backwards way. All the talk of his writing numerous letters to family and friends (Penelope). Eloise said she stopped responding. Colin stated that Pen responded the most. Nobody writes that many letters unless they enjoy writing in general. And given his passion for sharing his stories of his travels, it’s not surprising that he keeps a journal.
2:24 There's hope with Gregory when he get his own season. In the book he's a hopless romantic & actually looses his virginity to Lucy Abernathy the girl he marries.
Writer Colin didn’t happen in the previous seasons because he was writing back to Penelope in great detail much like a journal and she would respond to each and every letter. This time she didn’t write back so he felt lonely so he started writing the journal. Eloise said to him that he must be lonely. And even in his journal he wrote that even in intimate moments with women he felt lonely. Pay really close attention to details and watch the interviews of cast and crew which will help you understand the story more since you are a big fan.
With the whole writing thing about him not being into it I would have to disagree. This is because he wrote to many people on his travels which means he likes writing about it and then he also came back talking about his travels a lot in season 1 and 2. It was only a little subtle I feel like I don’t know just my opinion.
I loved this season. Were there too many subplots? Yes. But I loved the subtle acting between Colin and Pen. I’ve watched their scenes several times through now, and the story is giving Pride and Prejudice vibes of internal change over dialogue which I personally enjoy.
Am I the only one that was so disappointed when the show used “call me Simon” soundtrack in that scene with Colin?? That was Simon’s song! Realizing he might be falling for Daphne! Not Colin’s! 😩 And someone needs to officially release that music that plays when Anthony was in his office while his family were heading over to the Danbury house for a soireee of talents, or when Colin was sitting in his room as everyone else was at this all and he looks at the dead candle flame and decides to go to. It’s like a remix of Daphnes debut music.
To your point about the threesome with Colon, I feel like it’s a required amount of sex scenes for shows these days and tbh it’s really unnecessary but that’s the programming they want for us it seems.
I love Francesca and John. Give me more introvert couples. I think it was dumb they had someone overheard Eloise. She wasn't that loud and no one was that close. It was just a deus ex machina to get Eloise to have to apologize to Penelope, who never can apologize to Eloise without immediately trying to justify it. I miss Theo, but Eloise and Cressida could make a good couple and I like the retcon explanation of why Cressida always seemed to target Penelope (crush on Eloise all along -- "You rejected my suit"). Really hope they don't put Benedict's story off again.
Please unfortunately in that area men had more sexual freedom compared to women and therefore the only way you will guarantee a woman’s satisfaction upon entering marriage was with the man having some experience before this otherwise there is no way for the men to know how to please women and a scene like the last one in the carriage would be unreal. Therefore yea men of that time had to be like that before entering marriage otherwise it would take some time before a couple could find pleasure between each other.
@@koa64I don’t know if you mean that Colin has no spark, unlike Kate and Anthony or Colin has no spark, like how Kate and Anthony didn’t as well, but I’m of the opinion that Colin has no spark, unlike Saphne and Kanthony who did
I wish they had more plot lines going on. This season felt very slow paced. Don't get me wrong, I love the story with Colin and Penelope. However, when I compared it with seasons 1, it doesn't have NEARLY as much going on. NO back story. Plot lines are very limited in this season. This is just my opinion.
There are too many sub plots..It is a drag...Miss these period books and ultimately movies must reflect the theme..They are "rakes" who are tamed..it tugs on the heart more. 3 is better than 2 BUT it is not number 1...
I loved their laugh in carriage scene, the first kiss was perfect, amazing dresses, eloise and pen scene in their house broke me, cressida s story is unnecessary but I get they create it so she marries Debling out of convenience
I think they’ll sleep together but then he’ll find out her secret and hate her for a moment until he finds out shes pregnant. All this hinting about a baby, has to be her.
I also think this. My Part 2 prediction is that they will sleep together prior to marrying, he will find out she is LW and he is super angry with her they get over it then wham her sisters have girl babies and Pen finds out she is pregnant and has a boy giving her and Colin the Feathering Title.
If that actually happens I will literally give up on Bridgerton. No hate to your comment (although thinking about it, it does have merit) but if he doesn't find out about her identity before the wedding I am not going to finish watching I
I don’t think Collin has expressed interest in professional writing yet in the show. He’s written letters about his travels that his family found boring so now this season he’s journaling. Penelope telling him she wants to read more might lead to an ah ha moment that he could turn his journal into something. It’s better imo than how it developed in the book. I also like that Collin doesn’t know about Whistledown yet. I’m glad I get to be surprised! And honestly it fell flat in the book when there were essentially no consequences so I’m curious to see how that goes. Oh and super agree on the random threesomes and need for the lead to have brothel seggs before they profess love. It’s overdone. Excited for part 2… annoyed we have to wait weeks!
I really liked that we are seeing more of Cressida as far as her living situation with her parents and the pressures she is under. I feel like she was taught to scheme and be insincere by her parents. I’m also worried about how Colin will find out Penelope is Last Whistledown and when. Based on the trailer for part 2, there’s going to be a reward to hunt her down and unmask her identity and Colin is taking that seriously. I hope they are able to talk it out and enter marriage with all secrets laid bare so there’s no animosity.
How will Penelope marrying Collin helping with the Featherinton's finances, Collin is a yonger brother, didn't majority of the inheritance went to the first born back then?
tbf they had referenced Colin writing letters to people a lot in the past, maybe they thought they had set up his writing through that? But that may not have been clear enough of a link I guess :/
I just want to mention that collin writing is mentioned, he used to send letters to everyone and now since everyone was annoyed with his rambling and even pen is not giving him heeds he is writing i find it normal
Idk if benedict being the lead in season 4 is a good idea. His book has story beats that’s already been done. Cinderella plot points. Damsel rescuing herself from would-be rapist. Illness/ nursing love interest. 🌟 I’m interested in Eloise’s story bc Benedict & Francesca’s story require flash forwards. I believe both go 4 years into the future.
Im confused about Cressidas family. I thought it said in season 1 that her dad had died and that the earl was now her little brother who looks like the footman
This season assumes people have read the book....it doesn't explain certain things like Colin loving writing and assumes we should all know this from the book. A few other things are assumed as well....more time should have been spent on Colin and pen rather then other characters to reveal more about them.
It's every hard for me to be blowm away by the first half of this season when the main couple only got 31 minutes and 48 seconds. I kept wondering if it was Polin season or Keeping up with the Featheringtons.
I think the producers knew the lead actors chemistry was weak at best and tried to create a lot around them to make the show entertaining. Colin's soft voice and lack of charisma is a huge downfall.
They have to show that they are rakes. That why it shows the multiple sex with others. The books could just say it and not explain but apparently TV requires breasts to be shown and everything spelled out clearly.
If you remember in season one we see, it in flashback, that Lady Danbury was forced to marry Lord Danbury by her brother. He brought her over to England and left her there. Lord Danbury was not an ideal husband. This may have been in the Queen’s story.
I am not happy with the fact that John Stirling is black. The actor is very nice but they should have chosen rather an Asian man! And in season 4 Benedict's love interest is black again! It's becoming boring!
Watching episode 1 and I'm bored already. The actor playing Colin has the personality and charisma of a turnip, along with a high-pitched soft voice that is not appealing. Penelope has some spark to her but the chemistry between the two lead actors is seriously lacking and that's made even more evident when you see the two small scenes with Kate and Anthony that literally pop off the screen. The whole feel of the show and the dialogue is off too, it's not witty or charming like the other seasons.
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So glad you brought it up. Absolutely gobsmacked at the fact that the writers think it's attractive to have all of their male leads repeatedly sleeping with prostitutes before being with their lover girl. It's a real ick, and makes it so amusing when they go on to insist that they are 'gentleman'. Um, no. I think we've lost the definition of gentleman lmao
We need a 12 episode season with the number of characters and plot lines we have, also if you don’t want to drop all the episodes at once, 1 episode a week would be so much better as this was fun but unsatisfying
Love this!!! I agree the season could totally be longer
The ending of episode 4 though had me in such a weird state of shock and delight 😉😆
Sameee!!
Omg me too, I was screaming in delight and in shock saying, lord please don't let my fiance come and ruin this moment 😂😂
Agreed!!! 😆
I keep rewatching Polin scenes after they kissed😂😅 like I just skip everything else it’s so useless! I hate that they keep jumping storyline to storyline. Like there are about 4 other relationships shown in this season. Like for effs sake, give them more scenes of longing for each other like Kanthony 🤦🏽♀️🤷♀️
@@h.dungore839 I was so annoyed by all the Featherington subplot scenes in season two, so I can relate to the feeling.
My problems so far:
1. Colin and Pen are on the back burner on their own season. The scenes of them actually together probably wouldn't even be long enough to make one full episode length. And, that is making their relationship feel weirdly rushed.
2. Their relationship is rushed- we go from her being angry with him to engaged in four episodes and they barely have any screen time. There is no romance building. Basically, we have a kiss (that feels a bit lackluster) and then Colin's dream then a few longing stares...right into the carriage scene. We get hardly any moments of them together just talking or showing any romance at all. Honestly, it's difficult to even tell Colin does have feelings for her other than the dream and a FEW stares. That's it. This is a romance show...where is the romance? The tension?! Season one did that FAR better with Daphne and Simon.
3. Tension-- we all know that romance books are all about the tension. And we start out with GREAT tension at the beginning with Pen angry at Colin. However, that's quickly resolved with hardly any payoff. He barely apologizes and they really don't say much about it. It's swept under the rug so quickly. They missed a great opportunity to make Colin pine for her a bit and make him eat his words. And look at all the tension in the first two seasons. Every time the Duke and Daphne danced together. The moment he explains that she can touch herself. Then Kate and Anthony's entire thing is mainly tension. Yet, I felt very little with Colin/Pen. Why not have them dance together and him realizing he likes having her close after the kiss? Why not more conversations between the two where they are just enjoying each other's company? Heck, Colin flirted with everyone BUT Pen in this season.
4. The Proposal- Everything was wrong. It was shot weird. The book had them going further in the scene. And their arguing and the fact that Colin was still upset with her added some spice to it and tension. But all that was removed. And Colin didn't look all that swept away. Pen certainly did, but Colin seemed like he was just kind of...there. Down to cracking a joke right when he pulls back. And then the proposal he smiles when he asks. In the book, he FRUSTRATED (in more ways than one) and that adds tension. For anyone that didn't read the book---this brooding like Anthony. Plus, the engagement feels better with him knowing her secret. He knows everything about he now and STILL wants her. Even knowing all that she's done. THAT is what proved he truly loves her. But here, he doesn't know and it feels wrong. Like when the Duke lied to Daphne in season one. And not good drama wrong. I mean, making Pen more villainous wrong. Plus, it doesn't convey the depth of his commitment to her without the reveal. I just hate it all.
5. The ensemble element- It is getting ridiculous now. In season one they struck the perfect balance. The main focus was on Daphne's story. Everything else was just supporting. Season 2 they definitely crossed the line in extending the love triangle and it definitely took away from the main couple, but still---they were the focus for the most part. But, season 3 barely feels like the same show. It's truly an ensemble. There is NO FOCUS ON THE COUPLE. Heck, Jon and Fran seem to be better focused than Polin in this season, which is why I think everyone is enjoying their story more. But they are putting in stories that shouldn't even have a place. Why are the Mondrichs still even in the show? And why are we showing Benedict with the random woman. We've seen him with randoms constantly. No need to show it again this season. And we don't NEED to fall in love with Jon/Fran because they aren't even an HEA. Their story doesn't matter. We don't need to treat it like it does.
Imo, these people need to hire several romance writers as consultants. They don't know how to write for ROMANCE. They are just concerned with writing an ensemble period piece and it's lacking everything. Season one was a great representation of romance. Season two messed up in a lot of ways, but it was still fairly solid. Season 3 is a total breakdown of the genre. And...it's boring!!
This season … they brought in a New writer that’s why …. She really messed up the whole love vibe
It messed up everything
I agree with everything u wrote
It’s heartbreaking they didn’t have enough faith for Colin and Penelope to pull through and shine for their season
They felt they had to include so many story line it only distracted us from the real story
totally agree with you
Well....I do SOMEWHAT agree. I definitely think that they are trying to juggle too many plot points at once this season and that it does detract a bit from Colin and Penelope’s story.
I previously also felt that things seemed a little rushed this season, however I’ve since changed my mind after reading some more takes on season 3. Tbh, I have not read any of the books. I only know what I’ve seen online (which includes just random spoilers I’ve read + random passages ppl have posted from the books) as well as what I read from the prologue (I only got to read the first half of it).
But if you think about it, Polin’s story is not rushed at all. It may seem that way at first-especially given season 2 where Kate and Anthony were most definitely a slow burn-but we have been watching these two specific characters already now for 3 seasons. And they even had a pre established friendship before the start of the show. We don’t need to take the whole season to watch them get to know more about each other because they ALREADY know everything about each other lol. And I think that’s probably the reason why there’s a lack of tension-at least in the romantic sense. We don’t really need to see them dancing around each other or have a buildup to them falling in love. We’ve already known that Penelope has had feelings for Colin since they first met. And obviously the first half of this season focused way more on the fact that Colin was realizing his feelings...or rather coming to terms with them, in my opinion. After all, he’s always loved and cared for Penelope. He holds her and her friendship in such high regard. The only thing they didn’t have was a physical connection, but that changed when they kissed. Especially for Colin. It was like everything connected and suddenly made sense to him. His feelings clearly go beyond that of mere friendship.
In any case, I would also like to point out that Daphne and Simon also get together within the span of 4 episodes. The only thing that differs Polin from the other two ships is that they have known each other much longer (again, why we do not get much buildup this season-we’ve already had two other seasons that established their relationship). So I do not think the main problem this season was that the romance was rushed. I do, however, believe they are trying to introduce too many storylines at the same time and trying to tackle them all at once lmao.
And, not a huge thing, but personally I am resentful of the fact that you felt the kiss was “lackluster” or that Colin did not look “swept away” enough during the carriage scene lmao. Those were two of my favorite scenes and imo both Nicola and Luke did a great job with those.
You are SOOOOO wrong and have literally missed the entire show if you think that their story is rushed. Go back and watch the other seasons
So far, I don’t like it, in the book, Penelope was older more confident, she wasn’t dwelling on not being married, she was at that point in her life where she knew it was a possibility that she might not get married, she was going on with her life, she wasn’t doing this pity party that they got her doing in the series. I like the books better.
The featherington plot was good, i like that they were leaning into Cinderella but we needed way more time with Colin and Penelope.
The plot is hilarious, the only side plot I really liked
I was hoping to be blown away by this season but I wasn't. It was so hard for me to truly get into the main love story when they barely had any scenes together before he decided to be in love with her lol
I’m so happy you said this. I feel exactly the same way
I agree, I think they needed more 1 on 1 time. It seems the writers thought his glances from afar would be enough but it's not enough to see jealousy, we should have had almost touching moments and more scenes like the one where she tells him his eyes are beautiful when he asks her to seduce him as training. That scene was amazing and I wish the rest of the show had kept doing this
I agree it felt so sudden like oh! we kissed and I cannot stop thinking about it, oh she's gonna be married I must not let that happen, oh! I do not like this new personality instead I love Penelope, oh I will go after her, oh we kissed again, lets get married!!! WTF
@@marias.wainwright3481 to be fair, the book was kind of like this too. I wish they would’ve followed the book a little less when it came to their relationship 😭 like give them more time. Change it like how you changed the other seasons
Agreed..love your comment😂❤@@paolaarnez5840
I felt like there was too much going on but colin Penelope story was so little. There was few side stories that never really contributed to the overall plot. I feel like second season was way more intense .this season, the storyline is scattered. I hate one thing though - why did Colin have to be a f*ckboy like anthony? Sleeping around with other girls why? To show the audience he is smh manly? It suited anthony not colin idk why
Yee, boxer story ...
So far I am not wowed. It felt rushed between Penelope and Collin. I think they did a disservice by splitting up the episodes. Like you said it takes a few episodes for the show to get going… so I hope the second half makes up for it.
Will Mondrich doesn't have to sell his club, he just can't be the one serving the patrons. He needs to hire staff to do so.
Being the owner is still a “job” though, which was improper. An investor/share holder would maybe work, but owning the club would definitely have been considered a working class job though
@@sallyparker11 the club's name is "Mondrich's" isn't it. Therefore it is something that the family can still own, and have the earnings contribute to the family fortune. Investors/ shareholders are essentially the owners of a business/ property. And like I said the issue is not Will owning the club. It is that he was working and serving the patrons himself. That is what he can't continue to do. He must have staff to do so. He could still spend time there, however it would be as a guest with the other gentlemen.
I was thinking the exact same thing get a manager
I saw a recap leak up to ep 6 his wife tells him to sell and he does
@@sallyparker11I mean don’t the bridgertons own businesses
Great review! We all know Pen has been in love with Colin since season 1. I just hate that it took Colin almost losing Pen to Lord Debling to realize she’s been the one all along. Further, Colin is still in a “lust love” with Pen, while Pen is fully in love. I hope we’ll see Colin truly accept Pen for who she is. I want Colin to beg and cry for her the next part.
100% Like we don't see much tenderness, affection, gentle touching. Like we need both! I want him to like her for her and not just (in the mood)
He likes before that you have to pay attention to details and then he realized it when they kiss
That would be romantic. Crying for her love. Plus I don't like that he's a whore, who wants that?
I prefer the book, where the carriage scene happens after Colin knows about Whistledown. The show is ruining Polin with UNNECESSARY drama.
Exactly!
They did the same thing to Kanthony last season, the writers genuinely don’t know how to write a happy romance without dramatic ass issues and it’s so ANNOYING
Oh that would have been so much better and way sexier.
The trouble with a friends to lovers story is unlike daphne and Simon or Kate and Anthony, there is no getting to know about each other part of the story, so thematically it makes sense this feels quicker, although I would have love to have seen Colin Green with jealousy for a while longer,
But I expected the lady whistledown reveal was gonna be a big part of their story (I haven't read the books so I'm truly uninformed)
so I'm gonna wait and see how part 2 plays out that should be when the real drama kicks in
The thing is though, the show kept doing this thing of TELLING us that they were really close rather than showing it to us, and if you didn’t feel the closeness between them in previous seasons (like myself for instance, I’ve always seen Polin as this one sided ‘best friend’s brother who’s just kind of indifferent about me but does care for my safety in general’ kind of dynamic instead of two very close friends) that means the build up is necessary just to further expand upon their friendship so that the penny dropping moment is more effective, and the romance doesn’t feel like it’s rushed or coming out of nowhere.
No matter how well we’ve established two characters’ relationship, in a show where the main couple each season needs the primary focus they will always need to be given more depth, especially if stepping up from side characters to main characters and with the show distancing them for a bit and giving arguably more focus to side plots, that results in the friends to lovers just not hitting the way it should.
I thought there was no way this season could be bad, but I was surprised. What was the need for the story of the bar couple, the widow for Benedict, Penelope's family (last season was already enough), a possible love interest for Violet, a lot of Francesca (that's not her season, is it?)? I think everything would make sense if there were more episodes, but that's not the case here. The little bit of each micro-story takes up a lot of screen time from the main couple, and this cools down or reduces the depth of Polin, giving the feeling that it was rushed. I think they should have followed the books if they can't link all the stories in the time they have. Oh, Debling... what a waste of potential.
According to the books, Francesca marries in her first season, basically because she wants it to be over with all that (she is like the introvert on a family of extroverts) *Spoiler ahead* Her love story (in the books) is after she marries....
I think it’s because they changed enough from the books that they couldn’t really use a decent chunk of the actual Polin book and were scrambling. Penelope spends a relevant amount of time in that book having dinner with the Bridgertons - which, they kind of shot her relationship with Eloise. They sped up the timeline to where other parts of the book aren’t necessarily relevant - this book takes place nearly a decade after the first book - and Penelope doesn’t feel like a spinster in the same way because of it. And the significance of the Lady Whistledown mystery is more lackluster because they kind of killed the intrigue for it and had it revealed already
You read my mind. I felt the same way watching the show. Unnecessary subplots and too many characters threw off the main story.
It felt very split up. A little bit of everyone having a bit of story line and not alot of focus. Im kind of hoping it narrows in on just one or 2 stroy line progressions. I was kind of hoping for some more longing and tension for polin. Rather than obvious looks and then jumping right into it. Not enough build up IMO. Plus I know they are going to create drama for the couple in the next half. - y can't they just have a trouble free friends to lovers story - there is always stress. And it stresses me out.
(BTW Loved Eloise & Cressida storylines.)
I actually really liked the new love interest for pen and thought their story and getting to know each other & chemistry was much more believable. Would have been nice to see polin have more conversations together - about his travels and what she had been up to. Thier bond was implied but they didn't seem to build on that relationship at all. It still felt young, situational and superficial - rather than a deep true friendship.
Didn't like bennidicts story line felt very tacked on, which I guess fits well as his lack of purpose in life was translated through the screen with his story line.
I feel bad for Poor Cressida - she tries so hard but never lands the man it seems....well not so far anyway.
im just gonna say it... till now, im actually shippinh debling and pen...idc what anyone says, he genuinely took interest in her FOR HER.
colin only realised his "love" for her after a kiss and a wet dream!? (lazy on the writing part and honestly, not romantic enough)
with debling, she could've had it all...making them fall in love wouldn't be that hard if apparently, it takes only a kiss.
also, call me prude, but after getting ignored FOR YEARS, pen melting so quick for colin is unsatisfactory to me, yea! im talking abt the carriage scene.
all in all, unless the next part blows me away, i dont see the polin hype.
I agree, the kiss wasn't romantic cause he was literally imagining her moaning.... I love love love Debling
@@glorydmello yea, i didn't like it at all....debling was actually very sweet!
I completely agree..there was some connection and chemistry between pen and Debling...Colin and pen only have steamy scenes , that's in , no love or understanding, like what made Colin fall in love with her anyway?
@farheenfatima3269 I agree, the way they played with him dreaming about kissing her shouldn't have turned into something sexual it was just a kiss
@froggywithaheart I agree, I loved his honesty and his way of just listening to pen. He knew what was going on between pen and colin how are the rest of the bridgertons and featheringtons so blind??
2:03 OMG FACTSS. URGHH it really annoyed me that Colin was doing u know what with random girls 😒 It's so dam unnecessary. It's like they want to say he's yearning for that in his life, but relationships are so much more than physical intimacy
TOTALLY agree with this!!! So annoying - my sister and I felt like the writers made Colin into Gaston hehe
@@PopGirlCB LOL realll
I enjoyed most of Colin and Pens parts but I feel like this season 3 feels like a filler season before Benedicts season comes. They missed out a lot of important character development parts! Penelope meant to behave like she doesn't know how to kiss a man. Why was she doing it so perfectly in the show??? In the book she stays still while Colin kisses her and then he stops and tells her you know kissing is for two people so you need to kiss me back so the second time she kisses him back. Can you imagine that tension and chemistry if we saw that on screen!!! Ahhh and he's meant to be infuriated with Penelope when she's reading his journal entry. They didn't linger on that feeling long enough and when he cuts his hand he's meant to tell her he's fine and push her away because he's still embarrassed about her reading his private thoughts but she pushes and insists on taking care of his cut. It happened so fast that scene probably only took 1 minute??? And then when the two people were dancing like swans I believe at Queens ball, the guy looked similar to Colin the hair and the body build and Pen knew she was going to her proposed to by Debling but while she was watching the two people dance it looked like she was thinking of Colin and her long lasting love for him and whether she was making a big mistake as she hadn't told her feelings to him and given the situation a chance because what if he did like her back. So that moment they should have replaced the dancers for a moment with Pen and Colin dancing together like swans. Oh and the carriage scene when he's running after her imagine showing him struggling to catch up to the carriage so much more dramatic like what if she gets away!! They just focused on Pen in the carriage upset most likely because it was fake and green screen and in a studio so they can't show him running after carriage but come on there's a way around it take the carriage outdoors then we only need to see 2 or 3 seconds of him struggling after the carriage
nicola said the director said to act like you dont know how to kiss but it was hard for her to do and make it look good
I see many complaints about Colin being aggressive in the books, so I guess that's way they toned down his anger and such in the show
Yeah I hate thot Colin but I love the featheringtons I think they are fun. If I am getting rid of plot lines it's def Will and his family, why do we keep coming back to them? I just don't care. Francesca story is so sweet and pure. Seeing more Brimsley was so much fun, I still want to know what happened to Reynolds 😩.Overall I had a great time with pt 1. The last 5 minutes made it all worth it. Also we def do not need to worry about Shonda lol
Penelope should’ve given herself compassion while writing as Lady Whistledown instead of shaming her own self publicly for having Collin help her get married. Honestly, S3 part 1 is not robust enough to be split into 2 parts. I feel so sad! 😭😩😩 It was a good business decision for Netflix only 😒😒😒
honestly, while it made me sad for her it makes sense that Penelope would write about herself this way. She's very hard on herself, and after being embarrassed so badly the night before, of course she would believe that her actions were stupid and ridiculous. also, it would look suspicious if lady whistledown wasn't hard on her, since she's hard on basically every person in the ton. if lady W gave her some grace, the ton might follow, but Penelope can't take that risk, and already thinks those awful things about herself to begin with.
Didn't Pen mention that she enjoyed Colin's letters in season 2? She praised him for his style, if I remember correctly.
Yes, she did
It was so boring
How did you feel when Colin kissed Pen and dishonored her but he wouldn’t dishonor Miss Thompson?
I think he was still a virgin
Who cares! It was hot!!❤️🔥
They’re end game.
That’s love 😊
maybe its to show he can resist miss thompson but pen makes him so crazy
Probably also because after almost losing Pen to another man before, he has realized there is NO WAY in hell he would ever be able to watch her marry anyone else. He’s not gonna make that mistake again. He knew he was gonna ask her himself so he allowed himself to go further with her because once she admitted she wanted him too, that’s it. She was his. He also asked for consent the whole way if you pay attention. He asked to be let in the carriage and didn’t go in until she said yes, he waits to kiss her until she admits her feelings for him, and before he puts his hand up her dress 🙈
he stops and looks to her. You see Penelope nod to him and THEN he continues. He is still a gentleman.❤🔥
CONSENT👏🏻IS👏🏻SEXY👏🏻
Hahaha. So tired of seeing men saying that asking for consent the whole way through an interaction kills the mood…not if you are doing it right sir! Are you the Featherington sisters? Should we explain sex to y’all?
I couldn’t agree more with what you’ve said. I was so excited for Polin season, and while I loved it, it just feels like something is missing from part one, and I can’t place what it is. I enjoyed the side plots, but sometimes I feel like there’s sometimes too many to fit in an eight episode season. The side plots often take away from the main couple, and that was my biggest issue with season 1. Nicola and Luke did well with what they were given but there wasn’t much time for development and everything felt rushed. I did love the end of episode 4 though! I hope part two is better, but again feels like we will have a lot going on with the Lady Whistledown reveal. I genuinely feel like Nicola and Luke’s interviews sold the season more than the actual season.
I also agree with the fact that Nicola and Luke's chemistry offscreen in interviews was so much better and they hyped it up. I remember nicola saying that this season was romantic?? Finished the 4 episodes and honestly I didn't find any romance
@glorydmello exactly my thought , they hyped up the show soo much with all the promotions and interviews...and it turned out to be so mehh..no romance or chemistry at all
@@glorydmellothe big romance part will be in part 2❤to me part 1 was super romantic too but i cant wait for married Polin
@lifeofehs Genuinely curious... what was romantic? Pen flirting with Colin 1 time or the 1 kiss they shared which Colin turned into a sexual thing? Oh and Colin didn't even flirt with her once. Not even once. cause in season 1 and 2 we got the emotional connection before they ever shared a kiss. Sure pen and colin are friends and he cares for her and she does the same for him, but I don't think that even before they shared a kiss that Colin ever even came to terms with recognising his actual feelings for her. The talk with his mother couldn't have possibly been the catalyst for all that. The kiss would have been romantic if he hadn't dreamed about getting off to it. I'm just hoping that Pen gets revealed as whistledown before they get married and THEN he has to be like "Oh I really love pen and I cannot live without her and I need her in my life safe and unharmed, and if she gets exposed I WILL DIE, so I am going to do everything in my power to help her" or something along those lines.. otherwise pen would be going into this marriage with lies and deceitness and Believe me when I say I'm a pen fan and a diehard one at that but this season is actually killing my love for the bridgerton writers for understanding why people love enemies to lovers but somehow missing the whole point and reason for why people love friends to lovers...
I think Season 4 should be a combination of Eloise's story and Francesca's story. Because Fransesca marries John Stirling then he dies and she eventually marries Michael. I agree with you that the little moments of Franscesca shown in Season 3 was just beautiful
Agree with everything except 2 things :-
1) Featherington Plot was not bad. It was rather amusing and entertaining, and a breath of fresh air from all the flashy shiny stuff happening elsewhere.
2) I think the way I saw Colin's journal writing was, that the, show telling us that he has matured, and is slowly finding himself, by turning from a boastful person into a mature & secure man, finding enjoyment in private matters as well.
That's all. I agree with everything else.I 😇
Love your videos. Huge fan of your PJO stuff. Great review.🥳
Yeah it was good. She’s going to be the minority. It was very amusing
I agree about the Featherington plot! I found them very entertaining (and it helped give even more dimension to Pen). Her dynamic with her mom is particularly interesting. It seems like Portia really is trying to do what she thinks is best for Penelope, even though she's totally off base, and she did look upset when Penelope confronted her at the ball after she didn't get a proposal. I've just always found the Featheringtons to be fun and tacky and hilarious, each to their own :)
For me, Kate Anthony scenes were awesome. I won't lie I hated how we got the just in 1 episode for 5 min. I didn't feel Polin chemistry. Franc and Michael book was one of the favs and I did like her. I am sad Ben was not given a better story line
I hate that he keeps being given partners. His thing in the books was being so hung up on the Girl in Silver that he couldn’t fathom the idea of falling in love with someone else and it’s at least implied he hasn’t tried for any relationships in the gap after the ball
The fact that they managed to make him boring this season is CRAZY- like they didn’t even use his artist storyline as a clutch, it’s just more of ‘Benedict sleeps with a woman’
Right?! I was so disappointed with what they did to Benedict!!! I much would have preferred to learn more about him and his artistic pursuits now that he’s not in the art academy rather than him sleeping with new woman.
I feel like I’m in the minority when it comes to the Francesca plot line. The actress is STUNNING to be sure, but her character bored me so much! I would’ve rather had more Polin scenes. My part 1 stand out plot lines are the main romance (obviously), the conflict bw Pen & Eloise, the humanization of Cressida & her rather sweet friendship w/ Eloise, and the Mondrich family trying to navigate their new place in society.
Her character is rather boring in the books too.
But her book is the spiciest in my opinion.
I completely agree. She and her story feel so out of place with the rest of the Bridgertons and not in a good way. I feel like this is why the writers didn’t want to give her her own season because now it’s like they’re trying to do two or more Bridgerton’s love stories per season which is just..too much! And also very annoying when precious screen time (with what little time they have to work with in an 8 episode season) is wasted on a boring plot with boring characters and lazy writing
Seems like Francesca has some interesting behavioral traits and she’s going to stay on the edges of society as always
I don't think you're in the minority. I felt the same way and have seen SEVERAL other people say the same. They also gave her story WAY TOO MUCH screen time. If they'd incorporated her more in the other two seasons it might have annoyed me less, but she's a blink and you miss her character in the other seasons, and now we're expected to find her endearing and care about her incredibly boring storyline.
Eloise and Cressida are so lesbian coded I can’t stress it enough
I felt that too
💯 I thought they were going to have Eloise profess her love in that last scene. That whole thing made me so angry, the made Eloise the worst in this adaptation.
Did not feel that at all
@@logan8513I don’t understand why they want to stress the inclusivity that is very unrealistic for the time of the story. I read all the books and although I like the first two adaptations and the diversity works, for this one with Francesca’s love interest and the guy for Lady Violet, it just seems like they are trying to shove the “you need to accept the diversity”. Like really? This wasn’t how it was in the books. I also didn’t like Benedict being with a widow and Eloise possibly hinting at having a lesbian storyline. I hope they don’t change the storyline for these two.
I did not.. 😮
I feel like the actor that plays benidict will be 50 before they get to his season... I don't apritiate that they've re-ordered the books.
With over 2 years between seasons, there's no way they will do all eight books. The actors are going to get too old for the parts and they're going to take other work.
@@koa64 in the books a few storylines take part at the same time and there are some time jumps. Especially in Francescas book. If I was them I would do Benedict's story next while Elouise is busy doing something that will tie into her season, then its Eloise's season (in the book she's a spinster when she finally marries,) after being married for 2 years its then Francesca's story which also includes a 4 year time jump which will line up nicely for one of the younger sibling's stories the following year.
For that to work they would need to pump out seasons quicker than every 2 years... or they're just going to recast everyone.
This season really should’ve been Benedict’s, it’s obvious they don’t know what to do with him as a side character anymore and Polin actually needed to develop their friendship properly before delving into the romance, the build up in previous seasons is just too minimal and lacking and so it feels rushed this season, so far at least.
The threesomes are very weird and I’m sure they aren’t as frequent in the books. Hollywood pushes threesomes like they are a regular occurrence when in reality most normal people don’t have them. There are a lot of weirdos in Hollywood.
i loved francesca but i hated how mich screen time she got. colin and penelope had way too little for people who are the main characters!
I felt that way about kanthony last season!! They keep not prioritizing their leads ugh
Inserts himself where? Is the quote that had me dying with laughter! 😂
That’s the only part that had me laughing!
At this point I'm way more invested in Francesca & John's storyline, than Polin
Ah no, so far boring 😊
Same! I love that romantic musical gesture! I'm really not feeling chemistry between Colin and Penn, I mean I don't like Penn anyways, but still tried giving them a chance, but nah.
I have to say that Colin new flirty personality reminded me of Frank Churchill from Emma. I swear that the writers were watching Emma while writing the first half of this season. I’m not sure if I like it.
I'm loved tbh. But only the Penelope and Colin stuff, didn't care much for the other things. But i wanted all the episodes. I need more.
Reading thru the comments, it doesn’t seem like people are as excited or rabid fans of Polin the way people were with Kanthony last season… i havent watched season 3 yet but i hope the chemistry is good
i personally loved season 3, seen part 1 3 times lmaoooo
I didn't think they had chemistry..so far anthony and Kate had the best chemistry in all of the seasons
@@adeleholmes8542 really i think anthony and kate had the least 😂
I was excited and was so disappointed after watching. I don't care for Daphne and Anthony as characters.
Colin and Pen seemed like my type of trope and they dropped the ball.
I wish Pen had more suitors,
I wish she had the glow up before the season started, internally and externally.
I wish Debling actually loved her for her.
I wish Colin had a better reason for loving her.
To me it seems like none of them have grown at all as people. Ughhhh.
Hopefully part 2 will be better.
Let me put it this way: I watched S2 for Kanthony, I watched S1 and S3 for the side plots. As much as I wanted to support Penelope's season (I was so excited to have her as romantic lead), I have to say Polin feels cringe and unnatural, partly because the series failed to turn Colin into a credible (and likeable) romantic lead, partly because of incredibly bad writing. But do watch the season and make your own mind!
And can we talk about the music in this season? It was so not memorable to me, I cannot recall a single cool piece I heard in part 1 😩 I watch the opening scene in Germany from Queen Charlotte ep 1 just for that soundtrack alone! I hope season 3 part 2 makes a good comeback
The only one that stood out for me was the instrumental version of Snow on the Beach from TS' Midnights during one of the earlier balls. I couldn't identify any of the others.
I think the the whole feel of the show is drastically different, it's not as bright and it's fun and it's witty as the first two seasons. The dialogue is off, the cinematography is different, it's really lacking.
In the books, I like Felicitiy's story the best. The new actress is beautiful but a piece of cardboard could act better. She is not at all engaging or emotional. Also why are the men now in bridgeton so ugly, whatever their ethnicity. I was so looking forward to John and Michael.Where is Rege,Johnny types when you need them?😢
Justice for POLIN ! Not enough screentime they got robbed
I think there is a big pacing issue with this season. I feel like Colin’s growing love for Penelope wasn’t convincingly built up because of the short window. The final episode was whiplash lol. I mean, I’m not mad about it 😂 but still…
Pretty dull in my opinion. I think the Bridgerton train is running out of steam
I think having to parts was not a good idea. It just ramped up and suddenly you need to wait another month
Actually they kind of did mention his interest in writing, just in a backwards way. All the talk of his writing numerous letters to family and friends (Penelope). Eloise said she stopped responding. Colin stated that Pen responded the most. Nobody writes that many letters unless they enjoy writing in general. And given his passion for sharing his stories of his travels, it’s not surprising that he keeps a journal.
2:24 There's hope with Gregory when he get his own season. In the book he's a hopless romantic & actually looses his virginity to Lucy Abernathy the girl he marries.
Writer Colin didn’t happen in the previous seasons because he was writing back to Penelope in great detail much like a journal and she would respond to each and every letter.
This time she didn’t write back so he felt lonely so he started writing the journal. Eloise said to him that he must be lonely. And even in his journal he wrote that even in intimate moments with women he felt lonely.
Pay really close attention to details and watch the interviews of cast and crew which will help you understand the story more since you are a big fan.
With the whole writing thing about him not being into it I would have to disagree. This is because he wrote to many people on his travels which means he likes writing about it and then he also came back talking about his travels a lot in season 1 and 2. It was only a little subtle I feel like I don’t know just my opinion.
I loved this season. Were there too many subplots? Yes. But I loved the subtle acting between Colin and Pen. I’ve watched their scenes several times through now, and the story is giving Pride and Prejudice vibes of internal change over dialogue which I personally enjoy.
Am I the only one that was so disappointed when the show used “call me Simon” soundtrack in that scene with Colin?? That was Simon’s song! Realizing he might be falling for Daphne! Not Colin’s! 😩
And someone needs to officially release that music that plays when Anthony was in his office while his family were heading over to the Danbury house for a soireee of talents, or when Colin was sitting in his room as everyone else was at this all and he looks at the dead candle flame and decides to go to. It’s like a remix of Daphnes debut music.
Yessss, I feel like Eloise is so queer coded, especially with this new relationship between Cressida
Took to long for anything meaningful to happen. By the time you get going they end the video! And you have to wait for a month.
I just downloaded Netflix again to watch the season 3, it’s meh imo 😢
To your point about the threesome with Colon, I feel like it’s a required amount of sex scenes for shows these days and tbh it’s really unnecessary but that’s the programming they want for us it seems.
I agree with you. These scenes were kind of forced and unnecessary . I had to run for my headphones coz they were popping up so randomly lol.
I love Francesca and John. Give me more introvert couples.
I think it was dumb they had someone overheard Eloise. She wasn't that loud and no one was that close. It was just a deus ex machina to get Eloise to have to apologize to Penelope, who never can apologize to Eloise without immediately trying to justify it. I miss Theo, but Eloise and Cressida could make a good couple and I like the retcon explanation of why Cressida always seemed to target Penelope (crush on Eloise all along -- "You rejected my suit").
Really hope they don't put Benedict's story off again.
Can’t wait for the Benedict video!
Yeah, do the Benedict video, for sure! I can watch that guy all day. 😉
I don't like the hair and makeup this season.😮
Please unfortunately in that area men had more sexual freedom compared to women and therefore the only way you will guarantee a woman’s satisfaction upon entering marriage was with the man having some experience before this otherwise there is no way for the men to know how to please women and a scene like the last one in the carriage would be unreal. Therefore yea men of that time had to be like that before entering marriage otherwise it would take some time before a couple could find pleasure between each other.
Im my opinion it is just as good as the other seasons. No worse, no better.
Nah, the lead actor has no personality or charisma. No spark like Kate and Anthony.
@@koa64 yeah, I'm not the biggest Kanthony fan...
@@koa64I don’t know if you mean that Colin has no spark, unlike Kate and Anthony or Colin has no spark, like how Kate and Anthony didn’t as well, but I’m of the opinion that Colin has no spark, unlike Saphne and Kanthony who did
May be because most of the Bridgeton men are described as Rakes. So the sex with strangers is needed to describe the rakishness
I liked the friendship between Eloise and Cresseda tbh, I see the Cresseda development is very nice and somehow kinder.
I wish they had more plot lines going on. This season felt very slow paced. Don't get me wrong, I love the story with Colin and Penelope. However, when I compared it with seasons 1, it doesn't have NEARLY as much going on. NO back story. Plot lines are very limited in this season.
This is just my opinion.
I'm curious how they will fit the timing of Francesca's story into the seasons and her own sory because her book spans so many years.
There are too many sub plots..It is a drag...Miss these period books and ultimately movies must reflect the theme..They are "rakes" who are tamed..it tugs on the heart more. 3 is better than 2 BUT it is not number 1...
I loved their laugh in carriage scene, the first kiss was perfect, amazing dresses, eloise and pen scene in their house broke me, cressida s story is unnecessary but I get they create it so she marries Debling out of convenience
I think they’ll sleep together but then he’ll find out her secret and hate her for a moment until he finds out shes pregnant. All this hinting about a baby, has to be her.
I also think this. My Part 2 prediction is that they will sleep together prior to marrying, he will find out she is LW and he is super angry with her they get over it then wham her sisters have girl babies and Pen finds out she is pregnant and has a boy giving her and Colin the Feathering Title.
if that's the case it's not romantic at all..
Oof that's gonna be disappointing. I don't want them to be together just becoz she becomes pregnant tho.
If that actually happens I will literally give up on Bridgerton. No hate to your comment (although thinking about it, it does have merit) but if he doesn't find out about her identity before the wedding I am not going to finish watching I
@@ariamas8045exactly
I don’t think Collin has expressed interest in professional writing yet in the show. He’s written letters about his travels that his family found boring so now this season he’s journaling. Penelope telling him she wants to read more might lead to an ah ha moment that he could turn his journal into something. It’s better imo than how it developed in the book. I also like that Collin doesn’t know about Whistledown yet. I’m glad I get to be surprised! And honestly it fell flat in the book when there were essentially no consequences so I’m curious to see how that goes.
Oh and super agree on the random threesomes and need for the lead to have brothel seggs before they profess love. It’s overdone.
Excited for part 2… annoyed we have to wait weeks!
I really liked that we are seeing more of Cressida as far as her living situation with her parents and the pressures she is under. I feel like she was taught to scheme and be insincere by her parents. I’m also worried about how Colin will find out Penelope is Last Whistledown and when. Based on the trailer for part 2, there’s going to be a reward to hunt her down and unmask her identity and Colin is taking that seriously. I hope they are able to talk it out and enter marriage with all secrets laid bare so there’s no animosity.
How will Penelope marrying Collin helping with the Featherinton's finances, Collin is a yonger brother, didn't majority of the inheritance went to the first born back then?
This is more of a summary than a review. Doesn't add anything to my experience after I've already watched the show.
Lord Kilmartin is not John Sterling… JS at least in the books comes in the picture at her Wedding.
tbf they had referenced Colin writing letters to people a lot in the past, maybe they thought they had set up his writing through that? But that may not have been clear enough of a link I guess :/
disappointing imo. not enough pen and colin to omany new characters and why have we still got the pub couple?
I just want to mention that collin writing is mentioned, he used to send letters to everyone and now since everyone was annoyed with his rambling and even pen is not giving him heeds he is writing i find it normal
The sex workers/misttesses/widows were very much a part of the rich ton men sex life.
I’m glad we have a lot of the same opinions! I just uploaded my review as well!
Idk if benedict being the lead in season 4 is a good idea. His book has story beats that’s already been done. Cinderella plot points. Damsel rescuing herself from would-be rapist. Illness/ nursing love interest.
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I’m interested in Eloise’s story bc Benedict & Francesca’s story require flash forwards. I believe both go 4 years into the future.
Colin and Penelope’s book is supposed to be 10 years into the future but their season is right now so
@@cameronsilas very good point. Do you think they’ll have a son before her sisters & the baby boy will get the Featherington title?
@@lucyvanlipton7433 hopefully
Would be great to have edited video while you are speaking...
Boring and the chemistry left with Kathony….
Im confused about Cressidas family. I thought it said in season 1 that her dad had died and that the earl was now her little brother who looks like the footman
That’s a different family
This season assumes people have read the book....it doesn't explain certain things like Colin loving writing and assumes we should all know this from the book. A few other things are assumed as well....more time should have been spent on Colin and pen rather then other characters to reveal more about them.
This is such a good point
Gotta say, one thing I'm really missing is more Eloise screentime AND Theo 😭😭
He’s been writing so much Ahahahha he even said in season 2 to pen that no one cares about his writing as much as her and that he also writs letters
Did the Featherington sister’s swap husbands?
You neeeed to watch Derry girls it's great
It's every hard for me to be blowm away by the first half of this season when the main couple only got 31 minutes and 48 seconds. I kept wondering if it was Polin season or Keeping up with the Featheringtons.
I think the producers knew the lead actors chemistry was weak at best and tried to create a lot around them to make the show entertaining. Colin's soft voice and lack of charisma is a huge downfall.
@@koa64 I love his voice🫠 🤌🏾☺️🤣
random -- but you look like you could be the daughter of the woman who plays Violet!!
They have to show that they are rakes. That why it shows the multiple sex with others. The books could just say it and not explain but apparently TV requires breasts to be shown and everything spelled out clearly.
Isn’t the guy that Francesca is into names Lord Kirkpatrick, not Sterling?
If you remember in season one we see, it in flashback, that Lady Danbury was forced to marry Lord Danbury by her brother. He brought her over to England and left her there. Lord Danbury was not an ideal husband. This may have been in the Queen’s story.
I'm confused the first episode was basically all about season 2. What am I missing?
My favorite part of this season is Francesca. I love her simplicity and what she is attached to. Love it!
I have my own theories on why I think Benedict's season will be next but I really want to know your thoughts about this
Colin is a third son. Where is he getting his money?
I am not happy with the fact that John Stirling is black. The actor is very nice but they should have chosen rather an Asian man! And in season 4 Benedict's love interest is black again! It's becoming boring!
Watching episode 1 and I'm bored already. The actor playing Colin has the personality and charisma of a turnip, along with a high-pitched soft voice that is not appealing. Penelope has some spark to her but the chemistry between the two lead actors is seriously lacking and that's made even more evident when you see the two small scenes with Kate and Anthony that literally pop off the screen. The whole feel of the show and the dialogue is off too, it's not witty or charming like the other seasons.