Same thing can be said of the M1 MacBook Air. The vast majority would notice no real difference between that and an M3 Max MBP. It’s a testament to the power of the M-series.
Great work Aaron, I purchased the iPad pro4 mainly due to my compromised eyesight. I have had it just for two days and already my eyes don’t struggle like with the L.C.D. Screen I struggle with my eyesight in most things in every day life. So this I pad pro 4 is a a definite improvement to my everyday life. So up to now this is a great success.
Having had multiple corneal transplants I too struggle with my vision. I need extra light when reading a book and I had the contrast set to max on my iPad. Just waiting for my 13 inch pro 4 to arrive and am anticipating the new display may give me some assistance. I don’t imagine the new iPad is going to do anything my 2018 12.9 inch pro could do but I am hoping for a huge improvement in the screen.
I picked up 11” 256gigs last Friday and I love it. Never had a pro iPad. Upgraded from air 4 and the display is such a crazy upgrade!!! 120hz tandem oled just kills the iPad Air 4 screen. The performance and camera are noticeably better. And yeah performance is just crazy 🤪 Tomorrow my Magic Keyboard should arrive then I’m set for the next few years 🤌
iPads are hard to know when to upgrade because my 2021 M1 iPad Pro is still ridiculously fast and does everything I need without any issue. It’s always good to know what’s out there though because you never know.
it's really easy, actually - if your current iPad still does everything you need then keep it. Much later, once yours breaks, or you hand it down to your family member you can get yourself the newest one. This is what happened ot me: i gave my Pro to my parent so i'm getting the latest one. The few things to keep in mind is probably the connectivity or pencil support if those features are important enough to you to justify 1000€+ upgrade.
I got the 11 inch 256 GB last Saturday, along with the magic keyboard, and an Apple Pencil Pro. I absolutely love it. The display is beautiful, the speakers sound amazing, compared to the M2 iPad Pro that I had. On the magic keyboard, I love having the function row at the top, makes all the difference. I did order a dBrand skin for the keyboard, I had one on my last magic keyboard and loved it. I just can't stand how the material on the keyboard feels when it gets dirty
Re IPadOS - improve files to match finder, allow right click menu to open other than default eg ability to open word in pages without having to open pages first. Better sounds management, ability to separate audio streams - improved support for accessories, and finally ability to use the 16gm ram
How there different devices ….Apple will never merge the 2 that’s so Un Apple like …..IPad is a IPad and a MacBook is a MacBook your setting yourself for failure if you think Apple will take a profit out of their pocket to enable the iPad to do things that their full blown computer do ….Not gonna happen
I mean for me I like the Ipad more than my phone to watch videos or play games if I'm at home. However that's of course personal preference haha. Also if you want to spend the extra money
I’m coming from an iPad 7th generation that developed a ghost touch issue after 3-4 years of use to just getting the iPad Pro 11 inch M4. Big upgrade for me! I am loving this thing so far!
I think you missed the point of the video. He was saying unless you want the new oled screen then there is no point upgrading. I have a 12.9 M1 ipad pro and that is still way overpowered and can do everything the new ipad can do. Yes the new screen looks great but personally I can’t justify spending all that money on a way overpriced upgrade just for a little bit better screen.
I just upgraded my 2018 11, to the 11 m4, it's an upgrade in almost every way, but maybe in my specific use cases, I haven't noticed it as much as I thought, it's fast, I love the screen, we can only hope ipados 18 add more functionality to take more advantage of all this power, great video!
I've just upgraded from an M1 iPad air, back in the day I had the M1 pro, but didn't use it so much. But the M4 I just feel like is that bit faster and I'm definitely using this pro a lot more. Its the 11 inch 512GB. I do think my M1 ipad had a better battery, I do have 4 cycles but find it does drain a lot quicker, especially when not in use which isn't so good. But I do love the iPad, so for me it takes nothing away from the fact I'll be keeping it for years. Very glad to finally see battery health has come to iPad, think that's a very necessary addition as people keep their iPads longer usually.
Your eyes may like the OLED better because the mini led screen had a really long response time resulting in lots of ghosting which can make you uncomfortable. It’s something I have noticed with my MacBook Pro. Glad you’re liking it and the PWM isn’t bothersome!
I have been using my M4 IPad 11 in. Every day since I got it, almost more than my phone and m2 MacBook and I can honestly say I am thoroughly enjoying it! The Magic Keyboard makes it feel more laptopish but the iPadOS feels more efficient than my iPhone 15 pro and more enjoyable if I’m chilling in the house. It looks amazing and feels like it. I can’t wait to see what it does with ios18. Great product ill have for years
I've been reading on some forums on Apple and Reddit that people are experiencing "Mura Effect" on both 11 and 13 inch Oled. It's around 25% brightness. If you look at greys, you can see a Grainy appearance. Could you please check yours? It's worrying me now to buy due to this. Check greys and blues out, even just your settings page as the bars are greyish. At about 25% brightness and look closely or take a close picture. Is there a grainy appearance?
That depends on the user. Just like a pen that could just be used to doodle a penis on the toilet wall or to outline an inspired multimillion dollar project or sign a multibillion dollar agreement.
Although I ordered the day of release, it has been showing June 15-20. Today they moved delivery up to June 3-10. 13' Pro, black, regular glass, Magic keyboard.👍
One thing I have always loved with the iPad and Magic Keyboard is just double tapping the space key so that is wakes up, scans my face and I am in. It’s so seamless.
Not enough people talk about the lightness that comes with it being so thin. I love the fact that it is more portable, even with the new Magic Keyboard. The disadvantage of the thinness comes with the speakers having slightly less bass response compared to the previous generation.
At 5:14 - OLED displays have much faster response times, that is what you are feeling. Although the LED displays on previous models were 120hz, their response times were much lower. Dave2D talked on this in his review and had the response time as 5ms on OLED vs the 39ms on the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 with the Mini-LED display.
I've been reading on some forums on Apple and Reddit that people are experiencing "Mura Effect" on both 11 and 13 inch Oled. It's around 25% brightness. If you look at greys, you can see a Grainy appearance. Could you please check yours? It's worrying me now to buy due to this. Check greys and blues out, even just your settings page as the bars are greyish. At about 25% brightness and look closely or take a close picture. Is there a grainy appearance? It's apparently due to cheaper manufacturing, the early OLEDs used to have this, Samsung are natiorious for it from what I read.
I held on to my 2018 11 ipad pro waiting for the right time. I had the pencil 2nd gen and no keyboard. Well - I purchased the 1 TB 11" ipad pro, Keyboard, pencil regular screen with paperlike screen and pencil wrap. I bought a special case plus an Ankor power bank, and a docking plu in for a my HDMI, additional c connects USB A and even power plugged into the c connect. Well I want to leave my Microsoft laptop home. I also loaded MS Office with Notability for documenting. One confusing software is the Logic X. I used Login for over 15 years on the computer buut the ipad pro version confuses me. I disconnect the i[ad pro when needed and will treat this as my minnie computer. Thank Zollo for the continued info.
My M1 which I traded in for the M4 was almost as good. The main difference is the OLED screen that's an improvement. For me, I dont use the iPad for watching movies or whatever, instead, I use it for business so its a bad sale for me. I regret the purchase.
I upgraded from my M1 iPad Pro to the 2TB M4 iPad Pro (Standard Glass).. sure it's expensive but I'm planning to keep this for years to come. The one major difference which I'm enjoying is how light it is compared to the older M1. Also, I can see the difference having an OLED screen compared to the MiniLED.
I don’t know why I like the camera design of previous ipad pros! This one just looks incomplete or very empty if that makes sense! I think its because of monotone and single camera😢
Hi Aaron, I would like if you can make a video of your favorite Apple product of each category that you use like a tech EDC setup and which Mac so you primarily use. It would help for Apple products decisions, thanks!
The decision to make the iPad thinner was definitely to support the Magic Keyboard balance. You get better angles, bigger trackpad and a function row. You either had to increase the weight of the keyboard or decrease the weight of the iPad.
The exaggerated thinness of the tablet makes the pencil look even thicker. I agree, leaving the tablet thicker to make it easier to handle and a bigger battery would be a much better improvement.
What nobody seems to understand about the new iPad Pro’s thinness, is that is HAD to be thinner and lighter to allow its center of gravity to be lower when docked to the redesigned Magic Keyboard. A lower center of gravity means it can be pushed further back, thereby freeing up space on the keyboard for a function key row and larger trackpad. Basic physicists.
I have the iPad pro 11 inch M2 and will not upgrade anymore because Apple is pushing the limits on the price of the iPads. I would love to have the M4 but for me they are way overpriced and for what i use it for and i bet most people use the iPads are for just Internet browsing checking email and Netflix or RUclips. The days when people automatically just upgraded to the next greatest gadgets are over.
The new iPads look phenomenal but I can't justify upgrading at this point. I have an iPad Air 5th Generation with Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil that works great for basic tasks like email, streaming, and light document work.
A big advantage of the 13” over previous versions is it is a lot lighter to hold in tablet mode, and for myself as I regularly use outside the brighter display and nano texture will be noticeable benefits. A disadvantage of using over the Mac is often dumbed down apps over their Mac equivalents. It is not as bad as when I started using an iPad Pro with version 1, but still has somewhere to go before I can use my iPad for everything as I would like so I don’t have to carry two devices when travelling.
Next year (or a few years down the road) this chassis will be called ipad air and a thicker chassis may appear (with larger battery) called ipad pro. Then the "air" name will only finally make sense...
A great holistic review & I think the M4 chip should give this longevity, so on & so forth. I would have like to see a larger battery & the camera still feels asymmetrical.. 👍
I may be jumping the gun… as I am only about 5 min into the video…. I just upgraded from the 4th gen to this one and the only complaint I have is… regarding the Magic Keyboard. I love the design of the new keyboard… but I am really disappointed in the balancing of the device. When its on you lap..couch anything that is not a flat surface, it wants to fall backwards… which was not a problem with the old one. If you tilt the iPad forward enough it helps… but… a little bummed with that… other than that, it is AMAZING!
I kinda wish it had improved battery, but I love the minimalist design. Less is more. The lighter the better. It’s one of Apple’s signature features that makes them popular; putting incredible tech in an impossibly small form. It’s a big deal for a device that you handle every day. It makes you feel like you’re holding a piece of tech from the future. I have an M1 iPad Pro 11” and I still trip out on the thinness every day. But since it’s my main device that I’ve replaced my MacBook Pro with, I do wish it had a better battery life. The new iPads are really what should have been released last generation, minus the M4 obviously. That seems to be Apple’s problem currently, they’re behind.
At a starting price of $1300 for the 13 inch variant, not having a proper OS or applications that leverage the full power of the M4 processors is really mesmerizing to me. So much is jam-packed into these machines with little to no availability
As far as the thickness goes, I was watching another review and I think they hit the nail on the head - this iPad Pro 13” is thinner and lighter than the previous versions, which makes it easier to hold in your hand for longer periods of time. Yes I would have loved more battery but the trade-off as far as weight and thickness would make it harder to hold for longer periods. As far as iPadOS vs. MacOS, people you are just going to have to move past that. I just don’t see them changing it but iPadOS has gotten better over time.
As most watched the keynote, we know it will be expensive. That’s expected as it’s Pro. The average Joe won’t buy this, but they have a great $349 model to buy or a Mini or Air … or even the 11-inch Pro if they want to flex a little. Once you get Final Cut, I think you’re video should be directed squarely at the Pro user, how it performs in that arena and how one might go about using this to get Work/Design/Pro work done. Drawing on a screen is a huge deal especially for previous Wacom users are concerned. We’ve been drawing on a gray slate in our lap while looking forward at a desk monitor which is hard to get use to. Now we can actually look where we’re drawing which is so vastly better. Great video. Subbed a long time ago and I LIKED the video! Thanks, Aaron!
Things Apple should do on the next iPad Pro to make it better: 1. Make it thicker, 2. Give us 20 to 25% more battery life, 3. Better front facing camera(as good as the Samsung Galaxy tab s9Ultra's), 3. Better speakers(as good as the Samsung tab s9 Ultra's).
Thank you for the in-depth coverage! For me, I feel like this is the first time in which the changes are enough to start considering a possible upgrade from my 2018 iPad Pro 11-inch. However, the price tag which keeps creeping up every generation makes it a hard sell. Furthermore, the fact that I still use the 2018 iPad Pro 11 for my daily tasks while still being snappy and having the same software support (for now) while still having aspects better than the latest iPad Air (screen refresh rate and speakers) make me feel like I’d rather wait another year or another generation before I seriously consider a change.
I'm a medical resident and to tell you the truth the iPad Pro does a lot of work for me than a Mac, I write my notes on the iPad, I take my rounds updates on the iPad, I study my text books on the iPad(which is far easy than carrying a 15lb book), I do my keynote presentations on iPad, do my thesis work on word on iPad, and of course also I consume my entertainment on my iPad, its one of the rare cases but, for a medical resident, doctor or even a medical student, it can be the perfect all in one device one can have.
Good video Aaron! I think that the feeling like it’s 120 Hz all the time sensation is likely due to the lesser response time from the OLED. Dave2D states that it is now 5s rather than >30 with the mini LED.
Hello Aaron , I purchased a M4 iPad Pro 13” . The unboxing was usual , then the thinness and weight was amazing . I had the WiFi model . But after a video recording test I noticed that as panning the subject in the frame would wobble . I’ve tested this on all new iPads, 11”and air too , and it’s the same . Only, interestingly, the i pad mini is ok when using back camera
I prefer the thinner design and lighter weight. One of the main reasons I upgraded was the awesome OLED display. Agree that iPad OS needs a finder-type files app.
Hi Aaron and all! Have you noticed the poor speaker quality on the iPad Pro M4? I just upgraded my 11" 2018 iPad Pro to the 11" 2024 M4. Watching RUclips videos on both my old 2018 and 2014 iPad Pros, I noticed the M4 to have low muddled voices and lack of clarity, especially with dialogue.
In debt & Informative as always. Thank you. Have my 13’ over 1 week. Still can’t believe how light it is. I upgraded from 12.9" pro and passed that to my wife. Both happy campers 😊 Looking forward to Mondays WWDC24
It seems weird that every reviewer looks at the Magic Keyboard and no reviewer ever looks at the folio cover. I use the folio cover and, with the cover, it's thicker than my 2017 version with its "Smart Cover". Also, everyone compares it with the previous version and discusses whether it's worth upgrading, but most people who upgrade to this model will be coming from much older models ... in my case, gen 2, from 2017. For me, the new one has terrible audio compared to my 2017 model, so I am still using the old one while I try to figure out some use for the new one. You are right that an upgrade to a 4K FaceTime camera would have value, and I also never use the camera on the far side so they could have removed it entirely and I'd be fine. Destroying the audio, which I care about a lot, to give me extreme thinness, which I do not care about at all, shows how badly Apple has lost its way.
To me using the iPad Pro without using the magic keyboard is OK but it’s a much better experience with the keyboard so I think that’s why most of us buy it
Great video again, Aaron! I’m going to stick with my iPad Pro 12.9 M2 version. I was hoping the battery would be much bigger like you said which is a big reason for holding off.
You don’t have to buy the maxed out one. You can always buy the base models or the non nano version. I have the 13 inch 5g 512gb version. To me it’s just the right size storage. It’s a pity it doesn’t have at least 12gb of ram
2:34 noticed on m2 pro and ipad mini 6th gen, ipad battery widget shows battery percent of mx keys and mx master maus 3. No surprise. I just keep forgetting. it was by name on the mini but not on the m2 pro. 7:12 Per Aaron the pogo on Apple's Magic keyboards will work to M4 or M2 pros but magnet placements won't hold onto devices very well. File app was a mess from day one. Too convoluted and inconsistently guided by Apple to app developers. That's probably why Box and Dropbox were used. Coming from ease of use for files in Windows, Android/ Google, the Apple's iOS file system has been frustrating and often nightmarish to use.
Hi Aaron, with the Magic Keyboard closed, try sliding a piece of paper into it to see how well that rubber bumper works. I’d like to see. I have the 1tb M4, but I use an Otterbox case with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
@Zollotech funny little quirk. When holding the iPad portrait, the upper side volume button turns the volume up and lower turns it down. When holding it landscape, the lower volume button turns the volume up, the upper turns it down!!
I don't think the thinness is the problem for grip, it's the small bezels. I want to hold it with one hand and draw with the other; even with the 11 inch the bezel doesn't have enough leverage to hold from one side. It would be okay if they added "thumb rejection" so I can grip over the screen and not have the touch interfere with the pencil.
this ipad has a great screen, but does it affect your eyes? what is your experience with it? i'm going to buy one for myself, but i'm a little worried about the PWM
Even the M1 2021 iPad Pro is still way overpowered….man that thing is STILL a beast!
Same here, i could not agree with you anymore 👍
No doubt , but you can never have too much power 😊.
Same thing can be said of the M1 MacBook Air. The vast majority would notice no real difference between that and an M3 Max MBP. It’s a testament to the power of the M-series.
It really is! I have one and many use it for photo editing and it’s SO fluid and snappy
I love my M1 Ipad and for now will be sticking to it.
actually, the fact that it’s so thin is one of my favorite things about it! Absolutely love holding it
Mine too. That’s a big selling point.
Great work Aaron, I purchased the iPad pro4 mainly due to my compromised eyesight. I have had it just for two days and already my eyes don’t struggle like with the L.C.D. Screen I struggle with my eyesight in most things in every day life. So this I pad pro 4 is a a definite improvement to my everyday life. So up to now this is a great success.
Having had multiple corneal transplants I too struggle with my vision. I need extra light when reading a book and I had the contrast set to max on my iPad. Just waiting for my 13 inch pro 4 to arrive and am anticipating the new display may give me some assistance. I don’t imagine the new iPad is going to do anything my 2018 12.9 inch pro could do but I am hoping for a huge improvement in the screen.
I picked up 11” 256gigs last Friday and I love it. Never had a pro iPad. Upgraded from air 4 and the display is such a crazy upgrade!!! 120hz tandem oled just kills the iPad Air 4 screen. The performance and camera are noticeably better. And yeah performance is just crazy 🤪
Tomorrow my Magic Keyboard should arrive then I’m set for the next few years 🤌
hope they make huge upgrades in os
iPads are hard to know when to upgrade because my 2021 M1 iPad Pro is still ridiculously fast and does everything I need without any issue. It’s always good to know what’s out there though because you never know.
it's really easy, actually - if your current iPad still does everything you need then keep it. Much later, once yours breaks, or you hand it down to your family member you can get yourself the newest one.
This is what happened ot me: i gave my Pro to my parent so i'm getting the latest one.
The few things to keep in mind is probably the connectivity or pencil support if those features are important enough to you to justify 1000€+ upgrade.
Yeah, I got the 2018 12.9inch and it's still running strong. Battery life is my only biggest concern, but it still is a powerhouse!
@@andrestoodrip6616 Cheaper to replace the battery and it'll be like a new one!
Talking of apps taking advantage of the new M4 chip, are there any credible rumours of any looming on the horizon other than games?
I moved up from an iPad Mini 6 to an iPad Pro M4 11 inch last week - it is fantastic. Really pleased I upgraded. Great video 👏🏼
I was about to buy the Mini today and ended up buying the 11 inch M4 iPad Pro! …. I have the M3 Max MBP as well. Nice combo!
I got the 11 inch 256 GB last Saturday, along with the magic keyboard, and an Apple Pencil Pro. I absolutely love it. The display is beautiful, the speakers sound amazing, compared to the M2 iPad Pro that I had. On the magic keyboard, I love having the function row at the top, makes all the difference. I did order a dBrand skin for the keyboard, I had one on my last magic keyboard and loved it. I just can't stand how the material on the keyboard feels when it gets dirty
Re IPadOS - improve files to match finder, allow right click menu to open other than default eg ability to open word in pages without having to open pages first. Better sounds management, ability to separate audio streams - improved support for accessories, and finally ability to use the 16gm ram
I personally have a MacBook Pro M1 so no need for an iPad but they’re cool especially the 11 inch.
It’s weird that M1 MacBook Air has more capabilities than this iPad due to MacOs 🫠
How there different devices ….Apple will never merge the 2 that’s so Un Apple like …..IPad is a IPad and a MacBook is a MacBook your setting yourself for failure if you think Apple will take a profit out of their pocket to enable the iPad to do things that their full blown computer do ….Not gonna happen
@@cbastien92not weird at all. Consumers having choices is good, no?
I mean for me I like the Ipad more than my phone to watch videos or play games if I'm at home. However that's of course personal preference haha. Also if you want to spend the extra money
@@Kev2000 oh yeah in that regard I totally agree
I’m coming from an iPad 7th generation that developed a ghost touch issue after 3-4 years of use to just getting the iPad Pro 11 inch M4. Big upgrade for me! I am loving this thing so far!
Thanks for sharing. I’m completely satisfied with my M1 11” iPad. Blessings on your day.
I got two of the 13 inch one with matte screen and one normal glass and I am satisfied 😁
finally the review i was waiting for. i think im gonna go ahead and upgrade. thanks for everything you do aaron
I think you missed the point of the video. He was saying unless you want the new oled screen then there is no point upgrading.
I have a 12.9 M1 ipad pro and that is still way overpowered and can do everything the new ipad can do. Yes the new screen looks great but personally I can’t justify spending all that money on a way overpriced upgrade just for a little bit better screen.
You are 100% correct that the front-facing camera is not completely centered, it’s a little off to the side. :)
I just upgraded my 2018 11, to the 11 m4, it's an upgrade in almost every way, but maybe in my specific use cases, I haven't noticed it as much as I thought, it's fast, I love the screen, we can only hope ipados 18 add more functionality to take more advantage of all this power, great video!
Great video as always. Keep it up😊
I've just upgraded from an M1 iPad air, back in the day I had the M1 pro, but didn't use it so much. But the M4 I just feel like is that bit faster and I'm definitely using this pro a lot more. Its the 11 inch 512GB. I do think my M1 ipad had a better battery, I do have 4 cycles but find it does drain a lot quicker, especially when not in use which isn't so good. But I do love the iPad, so for me it takes nothing away from the fact I'll be keeping it for years. Very glad to finally see battery health has come to iPad, think that's a very necessary addition as people keep their iPads longer usually.
Your eyes may like the OLED better because the mini led screen had a really long response time resulting in lots of ghosting which can make you uncomfortable. It’s something I have noticed with my MacBook Pro. Glad you’re liking it and the PWM isn’t bothersome!
Yeah that ghosting when scrolling text heavy content just kills my eyes.
I have been using my M4 IPad 11 in. Every day since I got it, almost more than my phone and m2 MacBook and I can honestly say I am thoroughly enjoying it! The Magic Keyboard makes it feel more laptopish but the iPadOS feels more efficient than my iPhone 15 pro and more enjoyable if I’m chilling in the house. It looks amazing and feels like it. I can’t wait to see what it does with ios18. Great product ill have for years
I've been reading on some forums on Apple and Reddit that people are experiencing "Mura Effect" on both 11 and 13 inch Oled. It's around 25% brightness. If you look at greys, you can see a Grainy appearance. Could you please check yours? It's worrying me now to buy due to this.
Check greys and blues out, even just your settings page as the bars are greyish. At about 25% brightness and look closely or take a close picture. Is there a grainy appearance?
The ultimate Netflix and RUclips machine. 😂
That depends on the user. Just like a pen that could just be used to doodle a penis on the toilet wall or to outline an inspired multimillion dollar project or sign a multibillion dollar agreement.
That's all it is
Although I ordered the day of release, it has been showing June 15-20. Today they moved delivery up to June 3-10. 13' Pro, black, regular glass, Magic keyboard.👍
Great video! Watched on my 12.9 inch M1 iPad Pro. Still very powerful and no need to upgrade for quite a while.
I am really liking this performance on this M4 iPad Pro, nice video Aaron!
One thing I have always loved with the iPad and Magic Keyboard is just double tapping the space key so that is wakes up, scans my face and I am in. It’s so seamless.
Best Vlog on the new iPad Pro M4 that I have watched. Thank you.👍👏👏👍
🙋♂️THANKS AARON FOR THE UPDATE 😎💚💚💚
I think this might be my favourite Apple product ever. Still can’t believe how thin it is.
I just got the iPad Air 128GB space grey today!
Not enough people talk about the lightness that comes with it being so thin. I love the fact that it is more portable, even with the new Magic Keyboard. The disadvantage of the thinness comes with the speakers having slightly less bass response compared to the previous generation.
At 5:14 - OLED displays have much faster response times, that is what you are feeling. Although the LED displays on previous models were 120hz, their response times were much lower. Dave2D talked on this in his review and had the response time as 5ms on OLED vs the 39ms on the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 with the Mini-LED display.
Maybe, but I believe there is more to it than that.
I've been reading on some forums on Apple and Reddit that people are experiencing "Mura Effect" on both 11 and 13 inch Oled. It's around 25% brightness. If you look at greys, you can see a Grainy appearance. Could you please check yours? It's worrying me now to buy due to this.
Check greys and blues out, even just your settings page as the bars are greyish. At about 25% brightness and look closely or take a close picture. Is there a grainy appearance?
It's apparently due to cheaper manufacturing, the early OLEDs used to have this, Samsung are natiorious for it from what I read.
Do you know what the PWM rates are??
I really love the nano texture. It looks super futuristic and expensive. The best tablet screen ever.
The front facing camera does lower resolution because it's capable of Center Stage.
I held on to my 2018 11 ipad pro waiting for the right time. I had the pencil 2nd gen and no keyboard. Well - I purchased the 1 TB 11" ipad pro, Keyboard, pencil regular screen with paperlike screen and pencil wrap. I bought a special case plus an Ankor power bank, and a docking plu in for a my HDMI, additional c connects USB A and even power plugged into the c connect. Well I want to leave my Microsoft laptop home. I also loaded MS Office with Notability for documenting. One confusing software is the Logic X. I used Login for over 15 years on the computer buut the ipad pro version confuses me. I disconnect the i[ad pro when needed and will treat this as my minnie computer.
Thank Zollo for the continued info.
Waiting for the mini refresh 😍 hopefully this fall
The mini is always the last thought even though it's my favorite they never get love
The iPad mini is still a solid iPad to go travelling, etc
Rumors are the Mini won't be refreshed until 2026!
My M1 which I traded in for the M4 was almost as good. The main difference is the OLED screen that's an improvement. For me, I dont use the iPad for watching movies or whatever, instead, I use it for business so its a bad sale for me. I regret the purchase.
my m4 iPad Pro 11 I perfect. Pefect size for traveling. Perfect size for beating out quick words. Very happy with it.
I upgraded from my M1 iPad Pro to the 2TB M4 iPad Pro (Standard Glass).. sure it's expensive but I'm planning to keep this for years to come. The one major difference which I'm enjoying is how light it is compared to the older M1. Also, I can see the difference having an OLED screen compared to the MiniLED.
Great video Aaron! I really enjoyed it
I don’t know why I like the camera design of previous ipad pros! This one just looks incomplete or very empty if that makes sense! I think its because of monotone and single camera😢
Hi Aaron, I would like if you can make a video of your favorite Apple product of each category that you use like a tech EDC setup and which Mac so you primarily use. It would help for Apple products decisions, thanks!
Just get this when it on sale when the next ipad pro comes out. 40% off. Last ipad pro can be had for $550 right now at staples
I’m gonna upgrade from a mid-2014 MacBook Pro, it’s gonna be amazing. Moving 10 years forward.
The decision to make the iPad thinner was definitely to support the Magic Keyboard balance. You get better angles, bigger trackpad and a function row. You either had to increase the weight of the keyboard or decrease the weight of the iPad.
Battery life is good enough I prefer it to be thinner
The exaggerated thinness of the tablet makes the pencil look even thicker. I agree, leaving the tablet thicker to make it easier to handle and a bigger battery would be a much better improvement.
I have a 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro. Those are still overkill for me lol. Enjoy.
What nobody seems to understand about the new iPad Pro’s thinness, is that is HAD to be thinner and lighter to allow its center of gravity to be lower when docked to the redesigned Magic Keyboard. A lower center of gravity means it can be pushed further back, thereby freeing up space on the keyboard for a function key row and larger trackpad. Basic physicists.
Well worth your review thanks 😎
I have the iPad pro 11 inch M2 and will not upgrade anymore because Apple is pushing the limits on the price of the iPads. I would love to have the M4 but for me they are way overpriced and for what i use it for and i bet most people use the iPads are for just Internet browsing checking email and Netflix or RUclips. The days when people automatically just upgraded to the next greatest gadgets are over.
I don’t think the thinness is a odd compromise but a great one it makes it lighter and more pleasant to hold, even the big one!
Nice video.
The new iPads look phenomenal but I can't justify upgrading at this point. I have an iPad Air 5th Generation with Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil that works great for basic tasks like email, streaming, and light document work.
iPadOS's inability to handle multiple audio streams is really a non-starter for me.
A big advantage of the 13” over previous versions is it is a lot lighter to hold in tablet mode, and for myself as I regularly use outside the brighter display and nano texture will be noticeable benefits. A disadvantage of using over the Mac is often dumbed down apps over their Mac equivalents. It is not as bad as when I started using an iPad Pro with version 1, but still has somewhere to go before I can use my iPad for everything as I would like so I don’t have to carry two devices when travelling.
Watching this on my very, very capable 9th gen iPad for $249. Never feels slow or warms up.
they still need to fix the bug when my iPad disconnects from monitor when battery is fully charged
A whole week. That’s cute. iPad has been my main device for everything since 2011
Well, it’s only been out that long. But I’ve been using an iPad since the original. I love them.
@@zollotech I love them too. I was the only kid in my nursing classes using only an iPad in 2011-14.
Like the wallpaper. Is that part of the ones included?
Next year (or a few years down the road) this chassis will be called ipad air and a thicker chassis may appear (with larger battery) called ipad pro. Then the "air" name will only finally make sense...
A great holistic review & I think the M4 chip should give this longevity, so on & so forth. I would have like to see a larger battery & the camera still feels asymmetrical.. 👍
I may be jumping the gun… as I am only about 5 min into the video…. I just upgraded from the 4th gen to this one and the only complaint I have is… regarding the Magic Keyboard. I love the design of the new keyboard… but I am really disappointed in the balancing of the device. When its on you lap..couch anything that is not a flat surface, it wants to fall backwards… which was not a problem with the old one. If you tilt the iPad forward enough it helps… but… a little bummed with that… other than that, it is AMAZING!
I made the same purchase, love all the components, however, the ESC button seems that it does nothing
Congratulations to you for being so honest. Unlike most of the Apple fan boys on You Tube.
I kinda wish it had improved battery, but I love the minimalist design. Less is more. The lighter the better. It’s one of Apple’s signature features that makes them popular; putting incredible tech in an impossibly small form. It’s a big deal for a device that you handle every day. It makes you feel like you’re holding a piece of tech from the future. I have an M1 iPad Pro 11” and I still trip out on the thinness every day. But since it’s my main device that I’ve replaced my MacBook Pro with, I do wish it had a better battery life. The new iPads are really what should have been released last generation, minus the M4 obviously. That seems to be Apple’s problem currently, they’re behind.
At a starting price of $1300 for the 13 inch variant, not having a proper OS or applications that leverage the full power of the M4 processors is really mesmerizing to me. So much is jam-packed into these machines with little to no availability
As far as the thickness goes, I was watching another review and I think they hit the nail on the head - this iPad Pro 13” is thinner and lighter than the previous versions, which makes it easier to hold in your hand for longer periods of time. Yes I would have loved more battery but the trade-off as far as weight and thickness would make it harder to hold for longer periods. As far as iPadOS vs. MacOS, people you are just going to have to move past that. I just don’t see them changing it but iPadOS has gotten better over time.
I actually find it less comfortable to hold due to the thinness.
As most watched the keynote, we know it will be expensive. That’s expected as it’s Pro. The average Joe won’t buy this, but they have a great $349 model to buy or a Mini or Air … or even the 11-inch Pro if they want to flex a little.
Once you get Final Cut, I think you’re video should be directed squarely at the Pro user, how it performs in that arena and how one might go about using this to get Work/Design/Pro work done.
Drawing on a screen is a huge deal especially for previous Wacom users are concerned. We’ve been drawing on a gray slate in our lap while looking forward at a desk monitor which is hard to get use to. Now we can actually look where we’re drawing which is so vastly better.
Great video. Subbed a long time ago and I LIKED the video! Thanks, Aaron!
I can't wait to receive my 13", 2TB, space black, iPad Pro with the nano texture in a little more than a week!!!
Things Apple should do on the next iPad Pro to make it better: 1. Make it thicker, 2. Give us 20 to 25% more battery life, 3. Better front facing camera(as good as the Samsung Galaxy tab s9Ultra's), 3. Better speakers(as good as the Samsung tab s9 Ultra's).
I think the new surface has convinced me to say goodbye to my MacBook Air and iPad Air 2020
Thank you for the in-depth coverage! For me, I feel like this is the first time in which the changes are enough to start considering a possible upgrade from my 2018 iPad Pro 11-inch.
However, the price tag which keeps creeping up every generation makes it a hard sell. Furthermore, the fact that I still use the 2018 iPad Pro 11 for my daily tasks while still being snappy and having the same software support (for now) while still having aspects better than the latest iPad Air (screen refresh rate and speakers) make me feel like I’d rather wait another year or another generation before I seriously consider a change.
I'm a medical resident and to tell you the truth the iPad Pro does a lot of work for me than a Mac, I write my notes on the iPad, I take my rounds updates on the iPad, I study my text books on the iPad(which is far easy than carrying a 15lb book), I do my keynote presentations on iPad, do my thesis work on word on iPad, and of course also I consume my entertainment on my iPad, its one of the rare cases but, for a medical resident, doctor or even a medical student, it can be the perfect all in one device one can have.
Good video Aaron! I think that the feeling like it’s 120 Hz all the time sensation is likely due to the lesser response time from the OLED. Dave2D states that it is now 5s rather than >30 with the mini LED.
Hello Aaron , I purchased a M4 iPad Pro 13” . The unboxing was usual , then the thinness and weight was amazing . I had the WiFi model . But after a video recording test I noticed that as panning the subject in the frame would wobble . I’ve tested this on all new iPads, 11”and air too , and it’s the same . Only, interestingly, the i pad mini is ok when using back camera
Maybe your everyday work does not require much interaction and meeting, but my iPad Pro M4 13 inch battery go under 40% after half day usage.
That seems about right. An iPad will typically get about eight hours of screen on time.
Love your videos friend keep up
Need full versions of MS Office apps. Can't install add-ons and some advanced features are missing.
Sold the M1 to get this one. It’s great.
I prefer the thinner design and lighter weight. One of the main reasons I upgraded was the awesome OLED display. Agree that iPad OS needs a finder-type files app.
OLED plays well with high refresh rates because of super fast response times.
The reason it’s faster it by default as oled has a much faster response time
Hi Aaron and all! Have you noticed the poor speaker quality on the iPad Pro M4? I just upgraded my 11" 2018 iPad Pro to the 11" 2024 M4. Watching RUclips videos on both my old 2018 and 2014 iPad Pros, I noticed the M4 to have low muddled voices and lack of clarity, especially with dialogue.
Going from a 1st Gen iPad Pro 12.9 to M4 iPad Pro 11 would be justifiable me thinks :) I'm heavily considering it.
Forget the bull😭😁👏😳 I just got the m4 and I’m hooked it’s gonna be a thang for a hot minute hope y’all feel the same holla 🎉
In debt & Informative as always. Thank you.
Have my 13’ over 1 week. Still can’t believe how light it is. I upgraded from 12.9" pro and passed that to my wife. Both happy campers 😊
Looking forward to Mondays WWDC24
It seems weird that every reviewer looks at the Magic Keyboard and no reviewer ever looks at the folio cover. I use the folio cover and, with the cover, it's thicker than my 2017 version with its "Smart Cover". Also, everyone compares it with the previous version and discusses whether it's worth upgrading, but most people who upgrade to this model will be coming from much older models ... in my case, gen 2, from 2017. For me, the new one has terrible audio compared to my 2017 model, so I am still using the old one while I try to figure out some use for the new one. You are right that an upgrade to a 4K FaceTime camera would have value, and I also never use the camera on the far side so they could have removed it entirely and I'd be fine. Destroying the audio, which I care about a lot, to give me extreme thinness, which I do not care about at all, shows how badly Apple has lost its way.
To me using the iPad Pro without using the magic keyboard is OK but it’s a much better experience with the keyboard so I think that’s why most of us buy it
Great video again, Aaron! I’m going to stick with my iPad Pro 12.9 M2 version. I was hoping the battery would be much bigger like you said which is a big reason for holding off.
You don’t have to buy the maxed out one. You can always buy the base models or the non nano version. I have the 13 inch 5g 512gb version. To me it’s just the right size storage. It’s a pity it doesn’t have at least 12gb of ram
2:34 noticed on m2 pro and ipad mini 6th gen, ipad battery widget shows battery percent of mx keys and mx master maus 3. No surprise. I just keep forgetting. it was by name on the mini but not on the m2 pro. 7:12 Per Aaron the pogo on Apple's Magic keyboards will work to M4 or M2 pros but magnet placements won't hold onto devices very well.
File app was a mess from day one. Too convoluted and inconsistently guided by Apple to app developers. That's probably why Box and Dropbox were used. Coming from ease of use for files in Windows, Android/ Google, the Apple's iOS file system has been frustrating and often nightmarish to use.
Lightroom is extremely taxing on my iPad M1 atm. I can bake brownies on it at the same time.
I have the iPad Pro m2 12.9 can’t wait to upgrade
I updated from my 2020 A12Z iPad Pro
Hi Aaron, with the Magic Keyboard closed, try sliding a piece of paper into it to see how well that rubber bumper works. I’d like to see. I have the 1tb M4, but I use an Otterbox case with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Just got 11 inch ipad pro m4. Gonna actually give it a try. But am still thinking i need a laptop
@Zollotech funny little quirk. When holding the iPad portrait, the upper side volume button turns the volume up and lower turns it down. When holding it landscape, the lower volume button turns the volume up, the upper turns it down!!
I don't think the thinness is the problem for grip, it's the small bezels. I want to hold it with one hand and draw with the other; even with the 11 inch the bezel doesn't have enough leverage to hold from one side. It would be okay if they added "thumb rejection" so I can grip over the screen and not have the touch interfere with the pencil.
this ipad has a great screen, but does it affect your eyes? what is your experience with it? i'm going to buy one for myself, but i'm a little worried about the PWM
The new Magic Keyboard is dope with the function row I wish they did that on the prior version
I appreciate the thinness. I am old in my wrist and fingers cannot take the weight.
I like that you put what chapter number and name is next on the bottom left
You should do it for all ur videos
NF! Just saw him in concert in Pittsburgh