as an ASU fan I love this ! It has a history going back to the WAC .......they have played 29 times....ASU has won 21 of them most the games have been close .....Great long time and yet new rivalry . BYU also has deep connections in the Phoenix area which adds more spice to games in Tempe !
As a Colorado fan I don't think nobody from the big 12 should go because they're going to get blew out but I'm not delusional and I trust my eyes my heart don't count but you're thinking with your heart and you know it player
And the big 12 loved to trash SMU and not invite them, and now they are ranked tons higher than any Big 12 team.I think the Big 12 needs to schedule more out of conference games against big names to get respect.
So get me straight folks as a BYU fan …… BYU wins and ISU loses. They are in the XII title game, right?? ASU wins, they’re in for sure. ISU wins they in and BYU and Colorado eliminated?
As a fan of team that has moved to the SEC from the Big XII, there is a stark physical difference in league play between the leagues. I used to say the same stuff you did when my team was in the Big XII…I get it. BTW, last year’s PAC XII is the stacked conference you’re referring to. Sorry, play in the trenches is more demanding in the SEC. It’s like if you had to play a much better version of Kansas every week. Hopefully we may see in a bowl game (assuming SEC players play).
The only way the Big 12 can save face is not being one and done in the playoff while doing well in the crappy bowls against teams like Wash St, Ala, Clemson, Tn, Tam, ol Miss. etc. I'm tired of hearing how good they are to only see crap performances at game time.
@@tonymorrell2353 we will have a chance to prove it in the scrap bowls. We will even have the advantage because a good number of their team will skip due to injury chances is not worth it for their NFL carrers.
I tried to tell Big 12 fans over the past 18 months rejoicing in killing the Pac 12 because you took less money in an earlier TV deal was a 🤡 move. By removing the Pac 12 you only exposed yourself as the weakest conference. Now the new Pac 12 with Boise will have more momentum 😂
It was USC UCLA Washington & Oregon defecting to the Big 10 that killed the Pac 12, not the Big 12. The Big 12 was the only option for the remnant teams bcuz the Pac 12 didn't move quickly with a plan & they didn't deserve to retain any of the defecting teams bcuz league officials killed the conference with their questionable business moves, fueled by greed.They now reap what they've sown!
It was USC UCLA Washington & Oregon defecting to the Big 10 that killed the Pac 12, not the Big 12. The Big 12 was the only option for the remnant teams bcuz the Pac 12 didn't move quickly with a plan & they didn't deserve to retain any of the defecting teams bcuz league officials killed the conference with their questionable business moves, fueled by greed.They now reap what they've sown!
BYU and Colorado had their individual shots at a title. The regular season acts as a playoff in itself and if you can’t pull an Ohio state style win against Kansas or ASU you don’t deserve a chance at a playoff.
Let me show you the kind of parity we have in the Big 12. IF: Houston beats BYU Oklahoma State beats Colorado Arizona beats Arizona State Kansas State beats Iowa State Baylor beats Kansas TCU beats Cincinnati We could have an 8-way tie for first place in the conference. The championship would likely be ASU vs. BYU just by virtue of all the other teams beating each other. The craziest part? I would 100% believe all that happening considering what's been going on over the course of the season.
If more chaos happens next week and Kansas State beats Iowa State(which could easily happen) or U of A upsets ASU then Tulane, who is only ranked 3 spots behind ASU and one spot behind Iowa State, will be ranked higher then any team in the BIG 12.
The most likely scenario given the schedule next week is ISU is the most likely to NOT win out next week. I'm saying ASU vs Ybu rematch, but if NOT that scenario, then the championship game will likely be ASU vs ISU 🏆
I’m a big 12 Iowa State fan. But let’s be honest the top 3 or 4 teams in the SEC and Big 10 are better than the top teams in the Big 12 right now. The good thing about going to 12 teams is the big 12 will always get a team in the playoffs. Hopefully they prove me wrong and have a TCU like team that beat Ohio State a couple years ago. But if they have a TCU like team show up and play a game like they did against Georgia they won’t get much respect. Each conference deserves a team in the playoffs. So I’m surprised they just didn’t go to 16 teams like they will in a few years. There is way too much money in it for them to not do that. It’s pretty much whatever the big 10 and sec say is how it will go. If they want it to change then the other conferences need to start being consistent and win some playoff games each year
I agree, if the Big XII and ACC want to change perceptions that the Big Ten and SEC aren't miles ahead, the ACC/B12 teams need to win a round before they bow out. It will also not be helpful if Boise St wins a game and B12/ACC teams do not. There is a lot of conference reputation at stake here as we lead up to the final selection and then as the games are played. Reputation = money. It pisses me off that Notre Dame just gets free reign to be a loose cannon and basically gets a free pass to the CFP anytime they can cobble together 10 wins, no matter who they play. That is some bullshit and HOPEFULLY if a couple Big Ten or SEC bluebloods get left out to make room for the Irish it might change, but what is more likely is the Big XII would not get an invite at all so we can include S Carolina and Missouri and Tennessee and Penn St. Bastages.
I disagree with this. I think Big 12 top 4 can go toe to toe with Top 4 in B1G and SEC after this weekend. ORegon, prolly not, Texas, prolly not. Even georgia struggled at 1 point with Umass.
Colorado has not beaten a ranked team all yr and by beating unranked Kansas would have snuck in to the title game. Thank God they lost. Arizona St is in w/ a win. ISU is in w/ win
Texas would ROUTE Colorado's schedule this yr. There is no team in the Big 12 that has a Defense as Strong as Texas.....THAT would be the difference. SEC is played in the trenches.......Big 12's trenches are FAR EASIER.
I'm not sure the Big 12 would be competitive against the top 10 teams. No one had a great schedule, but I would trust the teams who usually have one over all but 2 or 3 teams in the Big 12. CU definitely isn't the team people think they are. Simple solution is the Big 12 needs to try and have a tougher non-conference schedule next year. People made this same argument two years ago, and we all see what happened to TCU
sour grapes dude. Teams have o just win the games. Who anyone thinks is the better team..... just win the games. Does anyone care the Beavers lost their coaching staff, only 2 starter back due to transfers & graduations, and has lost 17 players due to injuries (two deep)? No! No one cares. It doesn't matter. Win games & it will take care of themselves. Nothing is fair, perception matters.
I think the whole country has a MW hangup. The sports talking heads won’t even give consideration to the possibility the MW is actually a competitive conference, on par with the remaining so-called “power conferences.”
@ I double-dog dare teams from the so-called “Power Conferences” to schedule games against MW Conference teams. There’s more to the MW than just Boise State. The Power Conferences are just afraid to play MW teams and find out how competitive the MW teams are.
With 3 sec teams losing yesterday it’s a possibility that two big 12 teams can get in. There’s only 4 teams in the sec that might potentially get in. Thats Georgia,Tennessee, Texas, Texas a&m. Georgia is already in the championship. Tennessee won’t be playing in the championship so they have a chance of falling. If Texas beats Texas A&M, Texas A&M is out for good. If it’s the other way around, Tennessee is out because if Georgia beats Texas A&M in the championship Texas and Georgia are in.
@@stevehirzel6871 Yes they have some problems to work out, but if youve ever been to Laramie - its not a fun place..... They got 16 inches this weekend.
@@885Blackjack So let get this straight. UNLV who beat KU on the road, but lost to Boise State at home. But Boise State is getting destroyed by 6 teams?
BYU or ISU would be in the SEC championship game? Come on bro… Also, touting the supposed depth of our conference is giving me PTSD from the days of the PAC-12. Please understand these are talking points of depth. Buyer beware.
Guess what, the big 12 is terrible. BYU and Colorado have been overrated and overhyped all year. 😂😂😂 I hope it's ASU and Iowa State to the Championship.
Lets see what the Big 12 team does in the playoffs. A deep league does not nevessarily equal a quality league. The Big 12 does not have any marquee names any longer.
You talk all that ignorance about the SEC. You didn't however talk about 'you'll go on the road and play' any SEC playoff team. In that list of schools you named. Bring it to Austin so we can do exactly what we did to Oklahoma State in Dallas. To win the 'big 12' title. 😂😂😂. As it currently stands. A 12 seeded 'big 12' school. Would be going to Ohio St. Which is why you all. Were begging so hard. For a first round bye. You're an easy one and done. 😂😂😂
Did you hit your head or something? Texas is just one year from being in the Big XII. Nobody that was here before 2023 is afraid of the Longhorns. We've seen you cry plenty of times. Laugh that off funny boy. And why are you here anyway? Get the hell out.
NOW YOU SOUND HIGH, TRAVIS STILL BEING BEATEN BY 6 OTHER RECEIVERS BY YARDS AND AVERAGE YARDS BY CATCH, DO THOSE RECEIVERS GET HIESMAN TALK? 35 PLAYERS HAVE MORE PICKS THAN HIM. TRAVIS IS RANKED 937 IN TACKLES. HE AVOIDS TACKLES EVERY CHANCE HE GETS. BUT HE IS A GOOD DANCER.
Drake does more damage to the big 12 than the actual haters. Why shouldn't they be black pilled on the big 12 when the pods that rep the big 12 are so negative.
If we wanna keep recounting wins against, do we not remember UNLV beating Kansas and Houston at the beginning of the year? It just sounds like you’re a little bit jealous. And that’s OK. :-)
What drugs are you thinking that Boise State wouldnt compete in the B12? Absolutely wild take....... Youre talking about a program that hasnt had a .500 season since 1996! Youre talking about a program that has a winning record historically over 75% of the teams in your conference. Youd also have to actually play Boise in Idaho if they were in your conference, and Boise State would have 15 times the resources they do currently if they are in the B12.
If yall wanna complain about Boise State, you could have resolved this by just taking them in your conference. You didnt want Boise State, even though they are one of the most consistently high level teams in the last 30 years, or that they have a proven track record against teams in your conference, or that they consistently play tough OOC have more featured high level games than literally anyone in your conference. But you picked teams based on blue blood bs, basketball, and money..... So guess what B12 - you can screw all the way off in complaining about Boise State!
The big 12 champ isn’t guaranteed a spot. The only guarantees are the 5 highest ranked conference champs. I think if Army had beaten Notre Dame it was possible.
Why are you folding so quickly drake? The CF world is grtting wild and its getting harder to know who are the best trams. But one things for sure, if we as a confetence surrender before hand then we stand no chance of getting anyone into the cfp. Hate this whole surrender monkey mentality. OU just beat bama! The parity is going to be off the charts and imo the XII deserves two teams in the cfp.
Drake sure likes to mislead people...big 12 is the 2nd best conference ? Come on man start thinking about your reputation in the industry. Texas even won the conference last year.
Kansas houses Colorado ASU smacks BYU in the mouth and now the Big 12 Is doomed .........I'm going to say this......forget the CFP . The Big 12 will shine in bowls .......how bout Bama ..... yeh choke city hype job of a football team. The was an ugly beat down nobody saw coming........I like the Big 12 top 6 against ANY SEC team .......bring it ！
@@princenikoli No, because the Big 12 sucks. They can't recruit, they have no NFL prospects, and they end up with 2nd tier coaches. It's clearly the 4th best conference far behind the SEC and B1G, and behind by less to the ACC. It's a (slightly) glorified G5 league
As your current 'big 12' champion. I feel compelled to educate your ignorance. A school districts middle school league can beat itself up and look balanced. That doesn't mean their teams are equal to the New PAC, I mean 'big 12'. 🤡😂. You know this however because you expressed that understanding. In your attempt to belittle Boise State and the Mountain West. You are not a SEC equal. You're the middle school conference. Whatever helps you truck stoppers deal with failure however, because it's happening in basketball also. Run with it. 😂😂😂
@@885BlackjackAs your current 'big 12' champion. I must inform you. They will be releasing the top 25 and playoff seeding soon enough. It doesn't matter what you agree with!
@@885Blackjack The MWC historically has been astronomically more competitive at a high level than the B12 currently. In any general sense its a really bold strategy to attack Boise State on competition, cuz they got receipts for days and an answer to any argument you can fathom. They literally hold the all time ncaa record for consecutive winning seasons, but youre gonna act like they cant compete? HUH??? In the last 30 years they are by far the most accomplished G5 team to play the game: - They have the 6th best career record percentage in the sport (0.724) - They have the 18th most conference championships in the sport (21) - They have the 3rd most undefeated seasons in the sport (5) - They have the 3rd most 10+ win seasons in the last 20 years (15) - They are undefeated in major bowls (3-0), and undeniably should have played for more - They have had 8 top 10 ranked teams - They have additional All Time NCAA records for consecutive home wins (67), Class record (50-3), and Class margin of loss (5). Nothing against UCF, but UCF joined the same year as BSU, and yall took them over Boise - BSU has 160 more wins than UCF! This program has applied to join a P5 conference 13 times in the last 25 years - so its never been their decision to be in the conference they are in currently. The B12 had multiple opportunities to take them into the B12, but yall decided no, because you cared more about money than ability to play the sport. As for schedule, one of the argument Boise made to the B12 is that you would have every season a prime time quality top ranked matchup in OOC, which NOBODY in the B12 can claim. - Boise State has played more ranked OOC games than any team in the nation the last 25 years - Boise State has played 5 top 10 final ranked teams in the last 5 years in OOC - Boise State has played 3 different P5 conference champions in OOC the last 5 years - Boise State has played 9 P5 conference champions in OOC the 20 years - Boise State still has future OOC games against Notre Dame, Oregon, Wisconsin, Iowa, Louisville, NC State, Washington, and USC Nobody in the B12 has the scheduling track record, nor has the future OOC opponents for conference comparisons. Boise State told yall this from day 1, and you didnt want to reap the benefits, cuz yall just think theyre a small school in Idaho.
@MattBuild4 I got to point out Linfield college in Oregon has the NCAA and college football all league record for winning seasons at over 60+ winning seasons. That said, they are D3 amd Boise owns the D1 record which is probably more about what you were discussing. I am a boise state fan and have been for close to 20 years now, but history is meaningless when discussing the individual season at hand. UNLV and Washington state up to this point has been their only credible wins. I don't think that demotes them by any means, but it isn't doing heavy lifting. The close loss to Oregon with a comparable ending to Ohio state vs oregon are doing a lot of lifting at this point, and I think the possibility of a rematch has folks interested in seeing the what if play out. That said, if they beat Oregon State next week they can claim the Pac-12 AND MWC titles, so as a double conference champion they should at least have a bye
Bruh, you beat Wyoming by 4. Wyoming lost to ASU and BYU by a combined score of 82 to 21 and those games were not even that close haha. Tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself. You will be passed up.
Let’s be fair if Boise state played Colorado they would rush for 500 yards and I’m a CU fan.
BYU vs ASU is a budding rivalry that was an awesome environment
as an ASU fan I love this ! It has a history going back to the WAC .......they have played 29 times....ASU has won 21 of them most the games have been close .....Great long time and yet new rivalry . BYU also has deep connections in the Phoenix area which adds more spice to games in Tempe !
It went clear down to the last play... You can't ask for anything better than that
As a Colorado fan I don't think nobody from the big 12 should go because they're going to get blew out but I'm not delusional and I trust my eyes my heart don't count but you're thinking with your heart and you know it player
lol you wouldn't be saying that if your beloved Coach Prime had won last Saturday, you know it player
@jbrock8596 I said what I said I still could have been right either way hater
And the big 12 loved to trash SMU and not invite them, and now they are ranked tons higher than any Big 12 team.I think the Big 12 needs to schedule more out of conference games against big names to get respect.
I think now SMU and BSU would run over any big 12 team.
@@Number4leadJust not true bud. Do your homework! BYU already handed SMU it's only loss on the season
@@Number4leadAlthough, Boise might be a different story
Boise St is who I'm pulling for in the CFP & I'm usually for UU, but it's a rebuilding year for them.
@@janjep88869 true, but that was a quality close loss for smu. byu has more losses than smu now and to less highly regarded teams
So get me straight folks as a BYU fan ……
BYU wins and ISU loses. They are in the XII title game, right??
ASU wins, they’re in for sure.
ISU wins they in and BYU and Colorado eliminated?
Correct
Looks right to me
Give it up Drake, a few weeks ago you were crowing a BYU loss would be good for the conference! How is that concept holding up?
That's exactly how all these sports podcast guys are, but they always believe they're Nostradamus or something
As a fan of team that has moved to the SEC from the Big XII, there is a stark physical difference in league play between the leagues. I used to say the same stuff you did when my team was in the Big XII…I get it. BTW, last year’s PAC XII is the stacked conference you’re referring to.
Sorry, play in the trenches is more demanding in the SEC. It’s like if you had to play a much better version of Kansas every week. Hopefully we may see in a bowl game (assuming SEC players play).
Indeed
The only way the Big 12 can save face is not being one and done in the playoff while doing well in the crappy bowls against teams like Wash St, Ala, Clemson, Tn, Tam, ol Miss. etc. I'm tired of hearing how good they are to only see crap performances at game time.
What? As if the SEC isn't just frickin mid. You people are delusional.
@@tonymorrell2353 we will have a chance to prove it in the scrap bowls. We will even have the advantage because a good number of their team will skip due to injury chances is not worth it for their NFL carrers.
I think the title game will be a rematch. ASU v BYU. Go cougars!! 🐆
That would be an epic Championship football game
ISU would have to lose
Would it take a loss by KSU and ASU and BYU for Colorado to make the XII title game?
@@Mike-aka747they need ksu best Iowa state asu lose to Arizona and byu lose to Houston and they win against Oklahoma st
@@darrelhopkinson3560 3/4 not happening.
This guy is making the same argument that the SEC and BIG10 make against the Big12. lol
The Big 10 is not disparaging the Big 12. It is solely the SEC. SEC is losing to unranked teams with the same frequency as Big 12.
I tried to tell Big 12 fans over the past 18 months rejoicing in killing the Pac 12 because you took less money in an earlier TV deal was a 🤡 move. By removing the Pac 12 you only exposed yourself as the weakest conference. Now the new Pac 12 with Boise will have more momentum 😂
Not as weak as the scrub sec. You're as bright as a tree stump
Will the new pac 12 try to poach some teams from the big 12?
It was USC UCLA Washington & Oregon defecting to the Big 10 that killed the Pac 12, not the Big 12. The Big 12 was the only option for the remnant teams bcuz the Pac 12 didn't move quickly with a plan & they didn't deserve to retain any of the defecting teams bcuz league officials killed the conference with their questionable business moves, fueled by greed.They now reap what they've sown!
@@Number4leadI don't think they're tv deals etc will give them leverage on the Big 12. Speaking of the new Pac 12. It's possible but I doubt it
It was USC UCLA Washington & Oregon defecting to the Big 10 that killed the Pac 12, not the Big 12. The Big 12 was the only option for the remnant teams bcuz the Pac 12 didn't move quickly with a plan & they didn't deserve to retain any of the defecting teams bcuz league officials killed the conference with their questionable business moves, fueled by greed.They now reap what they've sown!
BYU and Colorado had their individual shots at a title. The regular season acts as a playoff in itself and if you can’t pull an Ohio state style win against Kansas or ASU you don’t deserve a chance at a playoff.
It doesn't matter that the Big 12 collapsed. Even if it hadn't, only one team would've gone to CFP. Big 12 just doesn't get respect.
Let me show you the kind of parity we have in the Big 12. IF:
Houston beats BYU
Oklahoma State beats Colorado
Arizona beats Arizona State
Kansas State beats Iowa State
Baylor beats Kansas
TCU beats Cincinnati
We could have an 8-way tie for first place in the conference. The championship would likely be ASU vs. BYU just by virtue of all the other teams beating each other.
The craziest part? I would 100% believe all that happening considering what's been going on over the course of the season.
Name the five division winners if big 12 is not going to be one of them.
If more chaos happens next week and Kansas State beats Iowa State(which could easily happen) or U of A upsets ASU then Tulane, who is only ranked 3 spots behind ASU and one spot behind Iowa State, will be ranked higher then any team in the BIG 12.
The most likely scenario given the schedule next week is ISU is the most likely to NOT win out next week. I'm saying ASU vs Ybu rematch, but if NOT that scenario, then the championship game will likely be ASU vs ISU 🏆
I’m a big 12 Iowa State fan. But let’s be honest the top 3 or 4 teams in the SEC and Big 10 are better than the top teams in the Big 12 right now. The good thing about going to 12 teams is the big 12 will always get a team in the playoffs. Hopefully they prove me wrong and have a TCU like team that beat Ohio State a couple years ago. But if they have a TCU like team show up and play a game like they did against Georgia they won’t get much respect. Each conference deserves a team in the playoffs. So I’m surprised they just didn’t go to 16 teams like they will in a few years. There is way too much money in it for them to not do that. It’s pretty much whatever the big 10 and sec say is how it will go. If they want it to change then the other conferences need to start being consistent and win some playoff games each year
I agree, if the Big XII and ACC want to change perceptions that the Big Ten and SEC aren't miles ahead, the ACC/B12 teams need to win a round before they bow out. It will also not be helpful if Boise St wins a game and B12/ACC teams do not. There is a lot of conference reputation at stake here as we lead up to the final selection and then as the games are played. Reputation = money. It pisses me off that Notre Dame just gets free reign to be a loose cannon and basically gets a free pass to the CFP anytime they can cobble together 10 wins, no matter who they play. That is some bullshit and HOPEFULLY if a couple Big Ten or SEC bluebloods get left out to make room for the Irish it might change, but what is more likely is the Big XII would not get an invite at all so we can include S Carolina and Missouri and Tennessee and Penn St. Bastages.
I disagree with this. I think Big 12 top 4 can go toe to toe with Top 4 in B1G and SEC after this weekend. ORegon, prolly not, Texas, prolly not. Even georgia struggled at 1 point with Umass.
Colorado has not beaten a ranked team all yr and by beating unranked Kansas would have snuck in to the title game. Thank God they lost. Arizona St is in w/ a win. ISU is in w/ win
The one ranked team they have beaten since Prime got there was ranked like a whole weak or two
It’s gonna be a rude awakening for the ACC and Big 12 go up against the SEC and B1G in the playoffs…
That's ok Colorado and BYU had their fair shot but could not take advantage of it. This happens.
Texas would ROUTE Colorado's schedule this yr. There is no team in the Big 12 that has a Defense as Strong as Texas.....THAT would be the difference. SEC is played in the trenches.......Big 12's trenches are FAR EASIER.
I'm not sure the Big 12 would be competitive against the top 10 teams. No one had a great schedule, but I would trust the teams who usually have one over all but 2 or 3 teams in the Big 12. CU definitely isn't the team people think they are. Simple solution is the Big 12 needs to try and have a tougher non-conference schedule next year. People made this same argument two years ago, and we all see what happened to TCU
Getting mad at the playoff committee 2 days before they come out with rankings is wild and I’m 100% here for it
Might as well get started hatin' early.
Why I have a hard time understanding these college standings 😭😭😭😭
sour grapes dude. Teams have o just win the games. Who anyone thinks is the better team..... just win the games. Does anyone care the Beavers lost their coaching staff, only 2 starter back due to transfers & graduations, and has lost 17 players due to injuries (two deep)? No! No one cares. It doesn't matter. Win games & it will take care of themselves. Nothing is fair, perception matters.
I think the whole country has a MW hangup. The sports talking heads won’t even give consideration to the possibility the MW is actually a competitive conference, on par with the remaining so-called “power conferences.”
The MW is not a power conference at all...Boise is the ONLY Power team in there.
@ I double-dog dare teams from the so-called “Power Conferences” to schedule games against MW Conference teams. There’s more to the MW than just Boise State.
The Power Conferences are just afraid to play MW teams and find out how competitive the MW teams are.
With 3 sec teams losing yesterday it’s a possibility that two big 12 teams can get in. There’s only 4 teams in the sec that might potentially get in. Thats Georgia,Tennessee, Texas, Texas a&m. Georgia is already in the championship. Tennessee won’t be playing in the championship so they have a chance of falling. If Texas beats Texas A&M, Texas A&M is out for good. If it’s the other way around, Tennessee is out because if Georgia beats Texas A&M in the championship Texas and Georgia are in.
You really do play the “whinny” guy really well. Is it real or just an act for content?
I wouldn't say that Arkansas pummeled Tennessee. The score was 19-17
I would say Boise State is better than Colorado. If Devin Neal and DJ Giddens can run all over that defense Jeanty would have a massive day
They struggled to come back and barely beat a really bad Wyoming team. And im a Pokes fan but Wyo is AWFUL.
Boise St would get curb stomped by at least 6 Big 12 teams, including 5 win Kansas. Stop lying to yourself @GoHornets.
@@stevehirzel6871 Yes they have some problems to work out, but if youve ever been to Laramie - its not a fun place..... They got 16 inches this weekend.
@@885Blackjack So let get this straight. UNLV who beat KU on the road, but lost to Boise State at home. But Boise State is getting destroyed by 6 teams?
@@885Blackjackbro he’s talking about the running back 😂😂😂😂😂
BYU or ISU would be in the SEC championship game? Come on bro…
Also, touting the supposed depth of our conference is giving me PTSD from the days of the PAC-12. Please understand these are talking points of depth. Buyer beware.
as it stands now, the pecking order is 1-ASU, 2-ISU, 3- BYU, 4 Col.
Guess what, the big 12 is terrible. BYU and Colorado have been overrated and overhyped all year. 😂😂😂 I hope it's ASU and Iowa State to the Championship.
CU for sure
This dude trying so hard to make a case for the big 12 when the 5 best teams to ever be in the big 12 are gone
@ you’re conference talent level is common
Lets see what the Big 12 team does in the playoffs. A deep league does not nevessarily equal a quality league. The Big 12 does not have any marquee names any longer.
You talk all that ignorance about the SEC. You didn't however talk about 'you'll go on the road and play' any SEC playoff team. In that list of schools you named. Bring it to Austin so we can do exactly what we did to Oklahoma State in Dallas. To win the 'big 12' title. 😂😂😂. As it currently stands. A 12 seeded 'big 12' school. Would be going to Ohio St. Which is why you all. Were begging so hard. For a first round bye. You're an easy one and done. 😂😂😂
Did you hit your head or something? Texas is just one year from being in the Big XII. Nobody that was here before 2023 is afraid of the Longhorns. We've seen you cry plenty of times. Laugh that off funny boy. And why are you here anyway? Get the hell out.
So happy you crying told you ASU win keep crying
NOW YOU SOUND HIGH, TRAVIS STILL BEING BEATEN BY 6 OTHER RECEIVERS BY YARDS AND AVERAGE YARDS BY CATCH, DO THOSE RECEIVERS GET HIESMAN TALK? 35 PLAYERS HAVE MORE PICKS THAN HIM. TRAVIS IS RANKED 937 IN TACKLES. HE AVOIDS TACKLES EVERY CHANCE HE GETS. BUT HE IS A GOOD DANCER.
The BIG12 winner is getting in. It probably will be the 12th seed though. You can't keep the winner out. Period I don't care what the reason is.
Drake does more damage to the big 12 than the actual haters. Why shouldn't they be black pilled on the big 12 when the pods that rep the big 12 are so negative.
If you lose three games you are not a good team. We KNOW colorado is not good. We dont know about BSU
If we wanna keep recounting wins against, do we not remember UNLV beating Kansas and Houston at the beginning of the year? It just sounds like you’re a little bit jealous. And that’s OK. :-)
Drake is a drama queen. I hardly ever watch this crap anymore. He's nothing but nonsense
lol agree they talk bs
What drugs are you thinking that Boise State wouldnt compete in the B12? Absolutely wild take.......
Youre talking about a program that hasnt had a .500 season since 1996!
Youre talking about a program that has a winning record historically over 75% of the teams in your conference.
Youd also have to actually play Boise in Idaho if they were in your conference, and Boise State would have 15 times the resources they do currently if they are in the B12.
Boise state let utah State put up over 40 points on them... they would be mid tier in the big12 in their few years.
At this point, do you think no 3 loss team will make it to the playoff ?
Alabama would if Saban was still the coach, buy not now
If yall wanna complain about Boise State, you could have resolved this by just taking them in your conference. You didnt want Boise State, even though they are one of the most consistently high level teams in the last 30 years, or that they have a proven track record against teams in your conference, or that they consistently play tough OOC have more featured high level games than literally anyone in your conference.
But you picked teams based on blue blood bs, basketball, and money..... So guess what B12 - you can screw all the way off in complaining about Boise State!
boise state should not have a bye, but they are having a great year!
Bsu has to beat oregon st next week...big game
What are you even talking about. Nobody is leaving the Big 12 out, just BYU.
The big 12 champ isn’t guaranteed a spot. The only guarantees are the 5 highest ranked conference champs. I think if Army had beaten Notre Dame it was possible.
if anyone thought Army had a chance is obviously only a casual fan. 😂
@@Bardmusic66bullshit. The SEC is getting 3 in. Maybe 4 if lucky. Did you not just see what happened this weekend? Your brain is broken
Yeah, Colorado is out.
If Iowa State and ASU lose next week then Tulane will be ranked higher then any other BIG 12 school.
Lol And Arizona is going to get blown out in the first round.
Yes their better than Colorado 😂😂 Because Neal just beat y’all by himself so what you think Jeanty gone do
Why are you folding so quickly drake? The CF world is grtting wild and its getting harder to know who are the best trams. But one things for sure, if we as a confetence surrender before hand then we stand no chance of getting anyone into the cfp.
Hate this whole surrender monkey mentality. OU just beat bama! The parity is going to be off the charts and imo the XII deserves two teams in the cfp.
Boise State barely beat Wyoming ASU hung a 45 burger on them while giving them 7 only ......
Drake sure likes to mislead people...big 12 is the 2nd best conference ? Come on man start thinking about your reputation in the industry. Texas even won the conference last year.
he means basketball
@@RavenThom😂
Kansas houses Colorado ASU smacks BYU in the mouth and now the Big 12 Is doomed .........I'm going to say this......forget the CFP . The Big 12 will shine in bowls .......how bout Bama .....
yeh choke city hype job of a football team. The was an ugly beat down nobody saw coming........I like the Big 12 top 6 against ANY SEC team .......bring it ！
@caleshtcincredibles ASU smacks BYU in th mouth? Tell me you didn't watch the game without saying you didn't watch lol.
@brettallen1440 I watched every second........ASU had that game won by half time.
BYU is overrated ! They have had one of the weaker schedules and have lost to the easiest part of it.
Nonsense. At least the Big12 champ will make it in at the very least..
Oh well Colorado😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Big 12 is definitely a roll over league. What is this guy talking about 🤣🤣🤣
Indiana would win the Big 12
@@Michael-y2m9s false
Yes running away with it.
Come find out.
Indiana has only played the bottom half of the B1G... Which consists of them being = to Ok State this year...
@@princenikoli No, because the Big 12 sucks. They can't recruit, they have no NFL prospects, and they end up with 2nd tier coaches. It's clearly the 4th best conference far behind the SEC and B1G, and behind by less to the ACC. It's a (slightly) glorified G5 league
As your current 'big 12' champion. I feel compelled to educate your ignorance. A school districts middle school league can beat itself up and look balanced. That doesn't mean their teams are equal to the New PAC, I mean 'big 12'. 🤡😂. You know this however because you expressed that understanding. In your attempt to belittle Boise State and the Mountain West. You are not a SEC equal. You're the middle school conference. Whatever helps you truck stoppers deal with failure however, because it's happening in basketball also. Run with it. 😂😂😂
No one agrees with you.
@@885BlackjackAs your current 'big 12' champion. I must inform you. They will be releasing the top 25 and playoff seeding soon enough. It doesn't matter what you agree with!
@@885Blackjack The MWC historically has been astronomically more competitive at a high level than the B12 currently. In any general sense its a really bold strategy to attack Boise State on competition, cuz they got receipts for days and an answer to any argument you can fathom.
They literally hold the all time ncaa record for consecutive winning seasons, but youre gonna act like they cant compete? HUH???
In the last 30 years they are by far the most accomplished G5 team to play the game:
- They have the 6th best career record percentage in the sport (0.724)
- They have the 18th most conference championships in the sport (21)
- They have the 3rd most undefeated seasons in the sport (5)
- They have the 3rd most 10+ win seasons in the last 20 years (15)
- They are undefeated in major bowls (3-0), and undeniably should have played for more
- They have had 8 top 10 ranked teams
- They have additional All Time NCAA records for consecutive home wins (67), Class record (50-3), and Class margin of loss (5).
Nothing against UCF, but UCF joined the same year as BSU, and yall took them over Boise - BSU has 160 more wins than UCF!
This program has applied to join a P5 conference 13 times in the last 25 years - so its never been their decision to be in the conference they are in currently. The B12 had multiple opportunities to take them into the B12, but yall decided no, because you cared more about money than ability to play the sport.
As for schedule, one of the argument Boise made to the B12 is that you would have every season a prime time quality top ranked matchup in OOC, which NOBODY in the B12 can claim.
- Boise State has played more ranked OOC games than any team in the nation the last 25 years
- Boise State has played 5 top 10 final ranked teams in the last 5 years in OOC
- Boise State has played 3 different P5 conference champions in OOC the last 5 years
- Boise State has played 9 P5 conference champions in OOC the 20 years
- Boise State still has future OOC games against Notre Dame, Oregon, Wisconsin, Iowa, Louisville, NC State, Washington, and USC
Nobody in the B12 has the scheduling track record, nor has the future OOC opponents for conference comparisons.
Boise State told yall this from day 1, and you didnt want to reap the benefits, cuz yall just think theyre a small school in Idaho.
@MattBuild4 I got to point out Linfield college in Oregon has the NCAA and college football all league record for winning seasons at over 60+ winning seasons. That said, they are D3 amd Boise owns the D1 record which is probably more about what you were discussing. I am a boise state fan and have been for close to 20 years now, but history is meaningless when discussing the individual season at hand. UNLV and Washington state up to this point has been their only credible wins. I don't think that demotes them by any means, but it isn't doing heavy lifting. The close loss to Oregon with a comparable ending to Ohio state vs oregon are doing a lot of lifting at this point, and I think the possibility of a rematch has folks interested in seeing the what if play out. That said, if they beat Oregon State next week they can claim the Pac-12 AND MWC titles, so as a double conference champion they should at least have a bye
Bruh, you beat Wyoming by 4. Wyoming lost to ASU and BYU by a combined score of 82 to 21 and those games were not even that close haha.
Tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself. You will be passed up.
You're so delusional 😂 if they left the Big 12 out of the cfp id throw a party 😊unless its Colorado
Sigh, this guy's tired old takes again. The BIG12 lives rent free in your head bro.
@brettallen1440 gtfoh I told you after what Drake did last year I've never letting up now mind ya business
@corneliusdansbyjr6165 rent free.
@corneliusdansbyjr6165 You're a clown brother. Never a take with any substance.
@@corneliusdansbyjr6165 oh hell no to Colorado.