Thank you all for being bold and having this discussion. Back in 2018, God began to show me how my involvement in a sorority was not of Him. I made the decision to denounce but then circled back and read through the entire ritual book. Holy Spirit led me to scriptures so that I could see how those rituals did not line up with the Word. I implore anyone involved to please do the same. 🙏🏽 There are hundreds of denouncement testimonies on YT as well.
Thank you all for this…for years people tried to make me think I had a problem because my spirit never agreed with secret societies/organizations….now I’m a member in a COGIC church and many of my brothers and sisters in Christ as well as my biological brother are tied to masons and Greek organizations and it’s hard for me to listen to them teach and preach to others about personal failures that can be seen but they themselves are tied to occult practices 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
✝️"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we [originally] preached to you, let him be condemned to destruction!" Galatians 1:8
Interesting history. Free Masonry has been an issue in White churches as well. I recall it being a big issue in the 80's-90's. Some pastors were talking about the issue of freemasonry and that Christians should not be part of it, other pastors said it was okay. I grew up in the Pentecostal church, they were opposed to freemasonry. There is a masonic temple in Alexandria, VA which was opened up for visitors. We went there in the 80's to visit. We were surprised to see all the Egyptian art and hieroglyphics that looked Egyptian in nature. My opinion is that any type of group that has exclusive membership is opposed to scripture.
Read the entire chapter 2 of Ephesians and you will understand why they call themselves Freemasons. They are rebels who are building their own temple of evil doers in opposition to God. Here is the ending of Ephesians chapter 2. Ephesians 2 19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
One of the things that is sad and not pleasing to God is the fact that a “black” church, “white” church, Asian church, Hispanic church etc exists. In heaven these divisions will not exist at all. So many have no motivation to change this dynamic which takes intentionality and loving your brothers and sisters of every people, nation and tongue. The difference I experienced going from a “black” church to a very diverse church cannot be overstated. The Bible says that the world will know that we belong to God because of our love for one another. These secret societies, sororities, fraternities, eastern stars and masons should not be in the church, but the issue of division based on ethnicity is a problem.
Church has changed I was ignored n shunned and I was so excited to get Baptist n join and all of a suddent a slow disappointment took place FOR A REASON I DONT KNOW WHY TILL THIS DAY I know I wasn't welcome they did everything to me to leave So I bounced its more to it but I went to church to learn n meet God n to hear the word I didn't know anyone I was new member and I was happy to be there but others must seen my fire n anointed and planned n plotted against me ( family Freemasonry eastern star probably) as we get older you realize stuff
She asked a poignant question at 24:00 “if it’s not based on scripture “ he looked down and said that’s a good question proving he doesn’t know a thing about it. Keep being lead astray by your pastors. Shameful.
I know many individuals in these "organizations." And yet I don't know a single person who's needs wouldn't be better served by choosing one or more of the following instead: self awareness, personal growth, a VERY GOOD therapist, gym membership, personal stylist, tailor, highly skilled Catholic priest. #accountability #generationaltraumaonfulldisplay #futuregenerationsdeservewaybetter
Can y’all 2 please do a show on covenant churches or covenant membership? PLEASE!! It’s my belief that JESUS CHRIST did the last and final covenant!! Please do one on this
A whole lot of words and opinions here. Not a receipt shown. This is wrong on so many levels. When you all have these debates, nobody gives the other side an opportunity to debunk these statements. Debate with a Mason. Masons are not trying to keep people from Christianity or disrespect and disregard Christ. In others words, if you’re feeling some type of way because the “church” lacks the comradery and family oriented environment that masons and other orgs have, then fix that within the church but don’t condemn the Masons for it. So much incorrect information was disseminated here.
Also can you do one on churches as for a gift for so much in order to get a book or whatever the trade may be. Too me it’s mocking GOD because it’s STILL selling
It’s so funny that a person who isn’t a part of these organizations was picked to speak about us. Please have one of my brothers /G\ or sis🌟 answer your questions instead of someone that’s assuming thing and have y’all believing nontruths. If an individual is saying ‘they’ instead of ‘we’, they aren’t an expert at the subject at hand. Be bless ✌🏾
P.S. I really hope these topics wasn’t picked just so y’all could get views, it’s a bit over done and I (as a black woman) and expected more out of y’all.
Thank you my Sistar. Folks like them NEVER asks one of us to attend their functions. They'd be "surprised" to find out that allot of the ministers they look up to are apart of a Fraternal order
I though it was just me. How are you speaking on something you have no knowledge on Dr? The church and the Masonic Organization absolutely can co-exist. Stop reading and believing what you see on the internet.
@@lisablack1939 I think it’s just a Taboo that ppl still seek clout on. There are many to get answers to these questions. I’m almost sure someone from Prince Hall Thinktank would make a statement
Those that place whatever fraternal order, sorority, fraternity, above their personal relationship with Jesus Christ is practicing idolotry. I don't see participation as a bad thing It's about personal priorities. I will always encourage individuals to pray, study and be led.
Are yall even studying the origins of the Bible?? The symbology vs taking things literal? That’s the link between masons and church. That’s one of the secrets literally lol
Hmmm… I agree with you. I would also add on that there are so many secrets in the Bible that the light and ray of its knowledge is revealed to each person in the way that he or she can understand. In other words how you interpret what God says may be totally different from how I interpret what God’s say. Yet enlightenment is given to all who seek it….
I'm down with CFBU but the irony of talking about freemasonry and fraternities and sororities not being of God and doing it from this platform called "the black church." Talk about ungodly. How can a "black" church exist and be of God but a fraternity or sorority can't?
That is another layer of the conversation however, I understand the specificity of black church to understand the full message. I do agree that it should be just church rather than black church, white church, Hispanic church l, etc.
Hi! @carlencharleston8576 They are speaking about the black church as an institution as it relates to the African diaspora in the United States rather than the Church that Jesus established. The black church as an institution was formed in the late 1800s after the 2nd great awakening. The division within the body of Christ is 100% not of God which is why de facto segregation by Christian’s is one of the biggest hindrances to the kingdom of God advancing. In terms of masonry, fraternities, and sororities they are completely against God! We are not to take oaths as Christian’s, we are not to be unequally yoked, and above all we are not to place gods above God! I hope this helps some.
“Good in the community is done for the single purpose of bringing people to Christ and through repentance and faith come into the right relationship with God” Smh but Free Masonry is the problem huh
Freemasonry is not a religious organization. Next time bring a Freemason to the show when speaking on Freemasonry just stick to Christian issues because he sooooooooooooo far off 😢
Your username reveals you as a mason. Get free of that bondage. Worship the One True God Yahweh. Don't settle for the unholy demonic trinity Jah-Bul-On. That's really just the encrypted name of Satan who only cares about your destruction. Jesus came to set you free, he came to give you abundant life. He warned against taking oaths. We no longer have to live in darkness. Don't fear the death and illness-related oaths you've taken if you leave the masons. Jesus is more powerful! There are so many testimonies of people being set free from mason-related curses and it's because ALL must bow to the name of Jesus. Jah-Bul-On cannot resist the awesome power of Yahweh. Renounce every curse and blessing the masons promised, release all your children (future and or present) from those curses and RUN with everything you have to Jesus. He will not let you down. He loves you and has good in store for you. He conquered death, sin, Satan, shame, and every power and principality. Please, repent and be saved. Today is the day of salvation. Don't go a moment longer. Seek the Lord while He may be found (Is 55:6). I lift up any freemason that may be reading this. Father, open their eyes now, in Jesus' name. Remove them out of darkness. Redeem them and their families and their future generations in Jesus' name. Have all the glory and honor. Amen.
@@kait-01751 Jah bel booooo! You haven’t the slightest idea. Hindu Egyptian and Canaan…a rose by any other name is still a rose….now if it’s good for the mystics it’s good for me. We deal with odds bc the odds ARE ALWAYS IN OUR FAVOR. I see you’re a pagan…and I AM what you wish to be. Don’t worry about how others see just keep watching.
I’m 13 minutes into this and he has said so many inaccurate historical facts about Masonary I know I won’t make it through …….having books in the background and holding his fingers like he was about to drop some real jewels 💎 will probably have viewers eyes wide open like he really dropping knowledge lol
Thank you all for being bold and having this discussion. Back in 2018, God began to show me how my involvement in a sorority was not of Him. I made the decision to denounce but then circled back and read through the entire ritual book. Holy Spirit led me to scriptures so that I could see how those rituals did not line up with the Word. I implore anyone involved to please do the same. 🙏🏽 There are hundreds of denouncement testimonies on YT as well.
The AME Church has Fraternity and sororities, Freemasons eastern stars all up in the church. The pastor a Kappa or Delta praising them😮hot mess😮😮😮
Amen!
College fraternities and sororities are of the same idolatrous spirit and tied into all this as well.
Oh my goodness, I was about to join a sorority... I thank God for this truth..
Thank you all for this…for years people tried to make me think I had a problem because my spirit never agreed with secret societies/organizations….now I’m a member in a COGIC church and many of my brothers and sisters in Christ as well as my biological brother are tied to masons and Greek organizations and it’s hard for me to listen to them teach and preach to others about personal failures that can be seen but they themselves are tied to occult practices 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
God bless you all for taking on this topic…very much an area of spiritual warfare in the church.
I’am glad that I just happen to stumble upon this RUclips video channel by accident.
Y'all are gooooood! Tell it!! Tell it!! Shout it from the roof tops!! TALK ABOUT AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM...!!!
✝️"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we [originally] preached to you, let him be condemned to destruction!" Galatians 1:8
Reminds me of all these music videos I see especially in Black music specifically everywhere there is Freemasonry displayed throughout their work
This has definitely been an eye opening discussion.
Thank you for sharing. 🙏This is very very important information!! God says my people PARISH for the LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. (Hosea 4:6)
Interesting history.
Free Masonry has been an issue in White churches as well. I recall it being a big issue in the 80's-90's. Some pastors were talking about the issue of freemasonry and that Christians should not be part of it, other pastors said it was okay.
I grew up in the Pentecostal church, they were opposed to freemasonry.
There is a masonic temple in Alexandria, VA which was opened up for visitors. We went there in the 80's to visit. We were surprised to see all the Egyptian art and hieroglyphics that looked Egyptian in nature.
My opinion is that any type of group that has exclusive membership is opposed to scripture.
By virtue of the DIVISION alone.
Doctrines of demons is what all that is.
The cornerstone on Christ alone.
I always felt that GOD is second to these groups!!! They are lost!! I feel sorry for them. It proves that education isn’t the KEY!!
Read the entire chapter 2 of Ephesians and you will understand why they call themselves Freemasons. They are rebels who are building their own temple of evil doers in opposition to God. Here is the ending of Ephesians chapter 2.
Ephesians 2
19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
One of the things that is sad and not pleasing to God is the fact that a “black” church, “white” church, Asian church, Hispanic church etc exists. In heaven these divisions will not exist at all. So many have no motivation to change this dynamic which takes intentionality and loving your brothers and sisters of every people, nation and tongue. The difference I experienced going from a “black” church to a very diverse church cannot be overstated. The Bible says that the world will know that we belong to God because of our love for one another. These secret societies, sororities, fraternities, eastern stars and masons should not be in the church, but the issue of division based on ethnicity is a problem.
Church has changed I was ignored n shunned and I was so excited to get Baptist n join and all of a suddent a slow disappointment took place FOR A REASON I DONT KNOW WHY TILL THIS DAY I know I wasn't welcome they did everything to me to leave So I bounced its more to it but I went to church to learn n meet God n to hear the word I didn't know anyone I was new member and I was happy to be there but others must seen my fire n anointed and planned n plotted against me ( family Freemasonry eastern star probably) as we get older you realize stuff
She asked a poignant question at 24:00 “if it’s not based on scripture “ he looked down and said that’s a good question proving he doesn’t know a thing about it. Keep being lead astray by your pastors. Shameful.
He wasn’t even in the ballpark bruh 🫤
At all…lol they don’t have enough historical context
I know many individuals in these "organizations." And yet I don't know a single person who's needs wouldn't be better served by choosing one or more of the following instead: self awareness, personal growth, a VERY GOOD therapist, gym membership, personal stylist, tailor, highly skilled Catholic priest. #accountability #generationaltraumaonfulldisplay #futuregenerationsdeservewaybetter
Can y’all 2 please do a show on covenant churches or covenant membership? PLEASE!! It’s my belief that JESUS CHRIST did the last and final covenant!! Please do one on this
A good book is 33 Degree of Deception by Tom C Mckeeny!
Thank you for the truth God cover and keep you.❤
Thank you for doing this!!! You may have saved someone from hell!!
A whole lot of words and opinions here. Not a receipt shown. This is wrong on so many levels. When you all have these debates, nobody gives the other side an opportunity to debunk these statements. Debate with a Mason. Masons are not trying to keep people from Christianity or disrespect and disregard Christ. In others words, if you’re feeling some type of way because the “church” lacks the comradery and family oriented environment that masons and other orgs have, then fix that within the church but don’t condemn the Masons for it. So much incorrect information was disseminated here.
Also can you do one on churches as for a gift for so much in order to get a book or whatever the trade may be. Too me it’s mocking GOD because it’s STILL selling
It’s so funny that a person who isn’t a part of these organizations was picked to speak about us. Please have one of my brothers /G\ or sis🌟 answer your questions instead of someone that’s assuming thing and have y’all believing nontruths. If an individual is saying ‘they’ instead of ‘we’, they aren’t an expert at the subject at hand. Be bless ✌🏾
P.S. I really hope these topics wasn’t picked just so y’all could get views, it’s a bit over done and I (as a black woman) and expected more out of y’all.
Thank you my Sistar. Folks like them NEVER asks one of us to attend their functions. They'd be "surprised" to find out that allot of the ministers they look up to are apart of a Fraternal order
They don’t have the history right. SMH 🤦🏽♂️
I though it was just me. How are you speaking on something you have no knowledge on Dr? The church and the Masonic Organization absolutely can co-exist. Stop reading and believing what you see on the internet.
@@lisablack1939 I think it’s just a Taboo that ppl still seek clout on. There are many to get answers to these questions. I’m almost sure someone from Prince Hall Thinktank would make a statement
18:14 the history was 25% right
This is a good Show. But WE AS BLACK PEOPLE HAVE WAY MORE TO GIVE THEN JUST GOING TO CHURCH.
Can you guys speak on the Jehovah witnesses
Those that place whatever fraternal order, sorority, fraternity, above their personal relationship with Jesus Christ is practicing idolotry. I don't see participation as a bad thing It's about personal priorities. I will always encourage individuals to pray, study and be led.
Amen!!
What and who is your primary sister and brother hood? Thats good!
They don’t go together just like the flesh and the spirit don’t go together….Galatians 5:16-17
Are yall even studying the origins of the Bible?? The symbology vs taking things literal? That’s the link between masons and church. That’s one of the secrets literally lol
Hmmm… I agree with you. I would also add on that there are so many secrets in the Bible that the light and ray of its knowledge is revealed to each person in the way that he or she can understand. In other words how you interpret what God says may be totally different from how I interpret what God’s say. Yet enlightenment is given to all who seek it….
Which Christian church are you referring to?
50:08 Not true. Why would we teach Jesus was a mere man? Where is your source? Your supposed to be educated!
@13:48 false!!! Prince hall have our charter from England we are the only legitimate organization in America.
Don’t seems wrong to want to sell a book. I thought the people JESUS drove out were crooks!! Help ah sista out please
Wow, so much MIS-information on Masonry!!!!! Would have been nice to have a mason in the show!!!!
Such as?
I'm down with CFBU but the irony of talking about freemasonry and fraternities and sororities not being of God and doing it from this platform called "the black church." Talk about ungodly. How can a "black" church exist and be of God but a fraternity or sorority can't?
That is another layer of the conversation however, I understand the specificity of black church to understand the full message. I do agree that it should be just church rather than black church, white church, Hispanic church l, etc.
Hi! @carlencharleston8576 They are speaking about the black church as an institution as it relates to the African diaspora in the United States rather than the Church that Jesus established. The black church as an institution was formed in the late 1800s after the 2nd great awakening. The division within the body of Christ is 100% not of God which is why de facto segregation by Christian’s is one of the biggest hindrances to the kingdom of God advancing.
In terms of masonry, fraternities, and sororities they are completely against God! We are not to take oaths as Christian’s, we are not to be unequally yoked, and above all we are not to place gods above God!
I hope this helps some.
24:12 THE BIBLE! King James Version.
The KJV is a Masonic book!
“Good in the community is done for the single purpose of bringing people to Christ and through repentance and faith come into the right relationship with God”
Smh but Free Masonry is the problem huh
Freemasonry is not a religious organization. Next time bring a Freemason to the show when speaking on Freemasonry just stick to Christian issues because he sooooooooooooo far off 😢
It's so wild that this happens so much. It's got to be purposeful ignorance at this point.
Come on DOC!? You gotta source the facts and stop giving emotional opinions
This guy doesn’t know crap. He has no receipts as to what he’s saying. Ignorance prevails.
Your username reveals you as a mason. Get free of that bondage. Worship the One True God Yahweh. Don't settle for the unholy demonic trinity Jah-Bul-On. That's really just the encrypted name of Satan who only cares about your destruction.
Jesus came to set you free, he came to give you abundant life. He warned against taking oaths. We no longer have to live in darkness. Don't fear the death and illness-related oaths you've taken if you leave the masons. Jesus is more powerful! There are so many testimonies of people being set free from mason-related curses and it's because ALL must bow to the name of Jesus. Jah-Bul-On cannot resist the awesome power of Yahweh. Renounce every curse and blessing the masons promised, release all your children (future and or present) from those curses and RUN with everything you have to Jesus. He will not let you down. He loves you and has good in store for you. He conquered death, sin, Satan, shame, and every power and principality. Please, repent and be saved. Today is the day of salvation. Don't go a moment longer. Seek the Lord while He may be found (Is 55:6).
I lift up any freemason that may be reading this. Father, open their eyes now, in Jesus' name. Remove them out of darkness. Redeem them and their families and their future generations in Jesus' name. Have all the glory and honor. Amen.
@@kait-01751 Jah bel booooo! You haven’t the slightest idea. Hindu Egyptian and Canaan…a rose by any other name is still a rose….now if it’s good for the mystics it’s good for me. We deal with odds bc the odds ARE ALWAYS IN OUR FAVOR. I see you’re a pagan…and I AM what you wish to be. Don’t worry about how others see just keep watching.
Only thing he knows in how to trick his brother in law 😂
I’m 13 minutes into this and he has said so many inaccurate historical facts about Masonary I know I won’t make it through …….having books in the background and holding his fingers like he was about to drop some real jewels 💎 will probably have viewers eyes wide open like he really dropping knowledge lol
Please take this down as a master mason in the state of California. This guy could have got a better answer from google 😢
Where d9es he get this stuff.. he knows NOTHING about Masonary
I can’t believe I got thru this whole lie of an interview! /G\
Square I couldn't......lmfaoo
What’s your rebuttal? What did they lie about?
@@LawrenceStroman I already gave my run down thru out the whole comment section with time stamps.
Hiram Abiff is the Freemason Savior.
Born again Christian Saviors is Jesus Christ you can’t have two Saviors !!!😮 choose Jesus,,,, not Satan😮😮
Jesus himself couldn't make me denounce the brotherhood.
😢
His history is inaccurate and lacks enough context.
Highly Inaccurate SAD FACTS!!! What Bible us he using ????
BS
53:30 you have to be Christian and believe in our lord and savior to be A MASON!!!
Depends on Jurisdiction. In Mich you don’t have to be Christian. But you definitely can’t be an Atheist.
What does believing in our lord and savior mean?
@@LawrenceStroman it means confessing that you believe in God, our lord and savior
You is a liar
Thank you