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This was brilliant thanks If you ever have the time it would be good to do an in-depth video on Heimdall as I’ve read before that it was him who gave us the runes not Odin but Odin took up the runes, and also I’ve read before that Heimdall is a version of Odin I don’t know if that’s true? Anyway thanks for your video 👍🏼
the mixture of hermes and odin was superficial one made for propaganda purposes because relating him to zeus would have the opposite effect since the german tribe allied with the roman had affinity for hermes, also your badmouthing of Prometheus was insufferable.
@@colorpg152 The Germanic people adopted a Roman week of their own accord and it spread to all Germanic peoples and all of them voluntarily equated Odin with Mercury's day so no it was not merely "propaganda purposes"
I imagine the earliest runes would have been carved in wood and have long since decomposed, making the subsequent surviving earliest stone carved runes appear as if the already established writing system they used suddenly appeared out of thin air.
There's also the consideration that a lot of possible inscriptions on bronze, silver, and gold may have been destroyed when the objects were melted down or otherwise reworked for other uses.
@@copperlemon1 Yeah, that's a good point that often gets overlooked. We tend to think of these metals as having great longevity, and they do, but they are so valuable that they often get cannibalized for other uses.
My great uncle was the last bard (troubadour as they called themselves) in our family. He could sing his songs in perfect Medieval Spanish rhyme all night long. He could sing about anything and everything. I am very glad I was able to be witness to that dying world! My maternal ancestors were Canarians that ended up in the Caribbean some 300 years ago, but isolated themselves and preserved the culture (until the roads opened up the hills where they were from in the early 1950's).
Between you and Creaganford, this is very interesting to learn how the old Germanic peoples reasoned and thought. We might never know exactly how they lived but we know a lot more today than when these studies started, which is true of almost all science and humanities.
Well I sat down for a quick listen to see what the video is about and lo and behold I'm now at the end. Shows you just how entertaining and informative this was.
When I choose the runes from a bag they are very accurate to my situation. They say, "Stand Still" and "This is the winter of your life" and "I can of my own self do nothing," and "Protection." I'm disabled and bedridden and I get these same runes all the time, even before I became this disabled, decades ago. Other people pick from my bag and get different runes that give more promising forecasts for themselves which fits their lives.
Psycopomp, Hanged God, Lord of the Draugr and the Wild Hunt. Wayfarer, wanderer, beggar, King. I read a book recently called The Hanged God by Shani Oates. I dont know much about the author and I tend to dismiss left hand path beliefs; but i thought her theory how the act of hanging criminals in America was tied to old Odinic tradition was very interesting. Pulling someone up from the ground by a rope thats been tossed over a tree branch as a way to suspend them between "here" and "there." Leaving them suspended to be judged by the Hanged God, or lord of the dead. She also mentioned older examples where corpses would have wooden chips with inscribed runes placed in their mouths so that they would be forced to speak to the Hanged God.
I think another interesting connection between Odin, galdr, and the runes is his gift to Ask and Embla, Ønd (breath/soul). There is an obvious linguistic connection between breath and soul. But galdr or song is nothing but specialized breathe, exhalation. By breathing a certain controlled way you craft a galdr, essentially. I don’t think the connection is a coincidence, perhaps the gift of galdr to man was a refinement of his first gift.
I think you are exactly right about this. The runes and the knowledge contained therein are much older than the written form. I am fascinated by the idea that speaking a rune is what activates its empowerment. After all, what is speech or language but a way to bring forth the abstract( thought) into the concrete reality?
Great video! Good point about Aesir being galdra smiths, I had not heard that before. According to Havamal it may be galdr is associated with walking through nature, I usually pray when on nature walks. The word rune may refer to whispered galdr, in SOng of Roland Ganelon whispered a sort of prayer to his sword. The song of roland was maybe a galdr to inculcate certain values in the French.
I've come to the understanding that the Greek Hermes, Roman Mercury, Egyptian Thoth, and Biblical Enoch, are all one and the same person. I had never considered that Odin was within the realm of possibilities for comparison. Quite an interesting subject to study.
Hah, I was about to write a comment about the Finnish "runo" and it's possible connection to Galdr, but you beat me to it. Great video as always, keep up the good work!
In the Havamal it is said that Woden looked "down to the depths" as he hung upon the Tree (Truth), of which no man knows where its roots run (even though we do know where a few run). It is further said that Woden did this for nine days and nine nights before he took up the runes with a roaring scream. Now, according to Hesiod, "For a brazen anvil falling down from heaven nine nights and days would reach the earth upon the tenth: and again, a brazen anvil falling from earth nine nights and days would reach Tartarus upon the tenth." Woden looked down to the very foundation of reality, and while he discovered that the Tree was ultimately rooted in Ginnungagap/Chaos, he did not reject it. Rather he (had already) embraced it and now invigorated it.
Rudra the vedic god is said to be the patron god of the vratyas a mannerbund group similar to the ulfhednar.(Source: atharvaveda 15:1) And considering that both odinn and rudra in their root mean rage and fury makes me believe that they are connected to each other
I came to the same conclusion about Tyr after learning about the Armenian Mihr : "Together with the Vedic common noun mitra, the Avestan common noun miθra derives from Proto-Indo-Iranian *mitrám (Mitra), from the root *mi- "to bind", with the "tool suffix" -tra- "causing to". Thus, etymologically mitra/miθra means "that which causes binding", preserved in the Avestan word for "Covenant, Contract, Oath". In Middle Iranian languages (Middle Persian, Parthian etc.), miθra became mihr, from which New Persian مهر mehr and Armenian Միհր Mihr and Մհեր Mher ultimately derive." Mithras->Mihr->Tyr The etymology and attributes of Mithra also fit the stories and attributes of Tyr. We know he had something to do with binding people together and as overseer of the "t(h)ing" where contracts/agreements were made and justice was spoken, just like Mithra : "Mithra (Avestan: 𐬨𐬌𐬚𐬭𐬀 Miθra, Old Persian: 𐎷𐎰𐎼 Miθra) is an ancient Iranian deity of covenants, light, oaths, justice, the Sun, contracts, and friendship. In addition to being the divinity of contracts, Mithra is also a judicial figure, an all-seeing protector of Truth (Asha), and the guardian of cattle, the harvest, and the Waters." It also makes sense on a linguistic level. The Iranic root "mi-" is to bind, the Germanic version of it is "ti-", from which we have words like "to tie" in English. In Dutch for example "aantijgen" is to tie/bind somebody to a crime for example (aan = to, tijgen = tie). The next point is that the Armenian Mihr kind of had the same status in the pantheon : "Mihr - Cognate with the Iranian Mithra. God of the sun and light, son of Aramazd, the brother of Anahit and Nane. Historically, despite his high place in the pantheon, worship of Mihr was eclipsed by Vahagn." Vahagn can be equated to Thor/Donar : "Vahagn - A "k'aj" (brave). Etymologically derived from Iranian Verethragna (via Vahram -> Vram -> Vam + -agn). The storm god and dragon slayer, identified with the Greek Hercules." This eclipse of worship of Tyr by Thor seemed to be happening in Europe as well. The next point is that the Anatolians had a god that is very clearly linked to the Sky Father root : Sius. Linking Tyr to the same root makes no sense at all and is linguistically far fetched. Linking Tyr to Mihr and Mithra makes all the sense.
Some suggestions what the first line at # 138 Haavaamaal could indicate and what clues it might lit: "Veit ek at ek hekk vindga meidi a" "Do i know that i hung on a windy tree (meidi)" Do i,are rhetorical and shows a dreamy shamanic state of mind. Windy,picture a horisontal sway,latitude or the earth equatorial orbit. Meidi,might aswell be a pyramide the tree of life,since its the only time its in use at the sagas and old norse. The twelve counsil might points to the months,the Zodiacs of 2160 years in its 25920 years of orbit
Let’s not forget that Apollo at one time was also associated with Mercury in Greece before he was associated with the Sun. The way Mercury travels through the sky confused the Greeks (at first) therefore making them think it was a different planet from the Mercury they seen at night. Therefore Apollo was its day aspect and Hermes was it’s night aspect.
@@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 yes I 100% agree. He’s also very very similiar to Rudra-Shiva. Odin is the meeting of opposites like Dionysus as you said.
Odin personifies the interaction between the Niolithic Farmers who entered Gaul, Germania and the British isles, for like HERMES, who is the Son of ZEUS, the Celts, Germans and British are the Children of the Niolithic Farmers, the Anatolians, Mediterraneans, Indo-Europeans. Odin is indeed THOTH, HERMES and MERCURY. THOTH is the Egyptian HERMES, and as we know, Scotia established Scotland, yet another possible indication of how HERMES aka THOTH, is Wotan-Odin!
@@Survivethejive Then how did they acquire farming, if not by the direct tutelage of Niolithic, Mediterranean Farmers? R1a and b, actually has it's roots in the Middle East, under Haplogroup R1A, so that whole Yamnaya Russo agenda is quite overtaxed and overly inflated. The Niolithic Farmers passed on their farming ways to the Germans, Celts and core Europeans like Greeks and Romans (Italians), also remember, Cattle Domestication comes from the Fertile Crescent aka Anatolia, home of Indo European languages. The Niolithic Farmer, Mediterranean expansion is supported by the fact that Odin is HERMES-THOTH.
The possibility of a connection between Odinic cult and the Hellenic esoteric tradition of Hermeticism is very interesting. I'm interested in Hermeticism because of how much of a well-developed and preserved form of pagan esotericism it is, which is unusual.
I think you were right to say that the Futhark runes might have been influenced by the Etruscans - the runes are very reminiscent of the Etruscan script; the people of Etruscan origin who would become the Rhaeti must have taken their script with them from northern Italy on their migration to the Germanic world. Makes sense then that the syncretism between Rhaeti/Etruscan and native Germanic elites would birth Futhark.
Druder is from the Cellt , Odin( the guy have 100 name) is a german thing way befor the vikings we found things in Denmark from , 500 AD same time was the Deer danser , is so wild man , sorry my English are not 100%
This is just me, playing a synonym word play, and what words sound like each other. Galdr remind me of 2 Norwegian words. Gal, that means insane, but mostly a person who scream words that does not mean anything. It supposedly have its origin in galinn or gala, that was enchanting songs. (this could be the phenomena of speaking in tongues) And gale, that is the scream the roster scream in the morning. This make me suspect Galdr is the magic of using your voice to make things happen. Like the rooster, that awakens the sun each morning with it's spells. Or a king, inspiring his menn. But this is just me spitballing, and I could be completely wrong.
What if Odin is actually Saturn/ Kronos cos his son is the StrormGod who kind took over from Pops? Some Greek sources say Kronos became governor of part of the Underworld.
The only thing I'm curious about is if Galdr related to the oral interpretation of written works. Most of the worlds surviving religions teach you "how to read the text" through spiritual leaders and it sounds like the Runes and Galdr were performed simultaneously. I bring this up as a distinction from Galdr just being songs used in a pre-writing era for remembering information.
Do you draw any similarities between Hermes having a Caduceus with two snakes and Odin having Gugnir with two ravens (Huginn | Muninn)? I would assume having a staff or spear of any kind would represent authority, like a modern scepter, but is there any (historical | mythological) significance in the pairing of familiar-esque animals?
Heathen researchers re-interpreting ancient sources is the mythological equivalent of experimental archeology. Gotta live it first to really understand it
In modern Finnish, "runo" no longer has any sacred or esoteric significance and merely means "poem" (and "runoilija" means "poet"). The Finnish word for "rune" is "riimu". It's unfortunate that English translations of the Finnish national epic, the "Kalevala", mis-translate the word "runo" as "rune", when it means "poem". BTW, to my knowledge, no evidence of the use of runes has been found in the Finnish historical and archaeological record, but if I am wrong about that, then please, someone correct me.
My favorite insight into the legend of Odin was by the late great English author Colin Wilson. Odin gave one of his eyes to Fricka, in exchange for the power of the Law. He sacrificed a part of his spiritual vision in order to manifest his will in the earthly realm. He sacrificed himself to himself, his higher self, in order to become more than man. Such is the power of the runes.
@@SurvivethejiveHere you go, this is from Wilson’s Religion And The Rebel (in which he’s referencing Richard Wagner’s Ring of the Nibelung): *”Readers who know Wagner’s music drama will remember the story of how Wotan, the Leader of the Gods, gives away one of his eyes in exchange for Fricka. Fricka brings him, as her dowry, all the forces of the Law. Wotan is the pure force of creativeness; he is the poet, the visionary, the idealist, the man of genius through whose dreams and visions all civilization advances. He is a clear mirror in which the Will of the Life Force is reflected. But as a visionary, he has no practical power; his visions stay in his own brain. That is why he needs the alliance with Fricka, who brings him the power of the Law-the power to put his visions into practice. But in exchange for Fricka, he has to give away one of his eyes: that is to say, the man of pure genius has to compromise when he wants power to put his ideals into action.”* In the same section Wilson also discusses “mimesis” (memory? Memir?) as being one of the themes of Wagner’s Ring cycle. But you may be right, there could be some of Wagner’s and Wilson’s own creative license being taken here.
Comparative theology always sounds like a discussion comparing Marvel to DC to me. Perhaps a more fitting translation of Oden is “trance one” or “the entranced one” or “the one who is capable of achieving a trance like state in themselves but also giving it to others”. The role of a shaman is to do this same thing, achieve trance in themselves and others. Drinking mead, chanting & reading could all be perceived as trance like states. Imagine being an unlettered person at the time and watching an elite person go completely still and entranced at the sight of runes and then they come out of it knowing all sorts of mysterious things like this funny bit of carved antler is a comb
galdr may be similar in concept to the Vedas which were (are) traditionally sung and are an aural tradition. perhaps the songs were easier to understand/harder to keep from the masses than the art of reading and writing
I've held for years Tyr was the original supreme god, based largely from linguistics, but not entirely. I've never seen your older videos, but I heard you discuss in this one you used to hold that belief. It seems to be semi-controversial in the rare circumstance someone has reached that conclusion.
A brilliant video as always, Tom! Question for you: do you believe that Odin is represented in Tacitus' creation story? And if so, would you say that he is Tuisto, Mannus, or Irmin?
Greco-Egyptian Thoth-Hermes was associated with writing and judgement of the dead, said to have invented letters/writing. Communication. In my practice I experienced once when I seemed to be simultaneously contemplating and sensing in the room a lower Cthonic space or underworld that made me unnerved that in a moment I experienced the symbol for Mercury sort of drop into the room and alleviate the tension and snap me out of that and I simultaneously thought of Odin as Hermodr riding to the underworld and that of the duality of the rational and irrational parts of consciousness. I know it sounds schizo but when I was younger I was practicing and experimenting with ritual and esoteric stuff to see if it was legit. These things are both psychological in a Jungian sense but there is an overlap between the physical and non-physical. Sincerity, Repetition and not lusting for results over time you can experience the mysteries but take heed and study the myths well because there are immense practical applications in the stories and symbols that become mind blowing when you see how they apply when you become aware and it's important to learn how to ground yourself and become intimate with Algiz. Cheers thanks for your work Tom and hope this didn't come off too patchouli lol.
Thank you for the informative video. I love all your videos as I'm interested in part of my ancestry. I'm from South Africa , My maternal side is Austrian and my paternal line is french, so I'm half white and the other half is french Lol.
Among the woodland Indians like the Shawnee of Ohio a special relationship was given to the Uncle on the mother's side that was even closer than the child's father. American writers had interpreted this to mean that since the father may not be sure that the child was actually his that this relationship was cultivated by the mothers' brother(s) since they could be sure they were related. But I do believe monogamy was practiced. So maybe the custom might arise from the ice age when it is thought there was some northern European contact in the Americas.
Before I watch this, i feel like asking why no one bring up Athena/Minerva as linked to Odin. Both are associated with war and wisdom, sages and birds,(owl for athena, ravens for odin), both use a spear as a main weapon. you could throw in Morrigan there aswell. Its just feel the similarities are so in your face its weird not to mention it.
Ancient peoples were very particular about the gender of the god. They would not equate a male god to a female goddess no matter how similar they were.
well yes since freyja is a warrior godess and so on, but the details like birds, spears, as far as I know Freyja had a Boar and cats. and Athena is renowed for her cleverness kinda like you mentioned how Odin was in the video.@@Survivethejive
Lugh leaving his people and joining the tribe of dan. Odin/lugh joins the tribe and learns of the new language and can communicate between the two worlds. Gives his children the knowledge he learns. He is a diplomat and wordsmith. The underworld being the land of the formians, after they were banished from Ireland.
Sitting back enjoying some light roast coffee with a bit of cream no sugar with a table steak cooked rare and cut with a buck knife , not sure why I included all that information guess I just want you to know I have good taste. I know 2 runes I want to know more!
In terms of fun but unlikely theories, I'd love to hear any thoughts you have on the East Coast Phonecian influenced origin of the Celts, the claim that the Homeric epics belong to the Norse Bronze age based on place names and only moved to greece with the Dorian Invasion, and claims that Britonic may have been a Germanic language before the Anglo Saxon invasion, related to Belgian, leading to the limited celtic vocabulary.
Is this the theory which holds that Troy was located in Finland? Doesn't this theory suffer rather a lot from the problem that Troy has actually been discovered by archeologists, in the Mediterranean?
@@icollectbadgers There is a city that has been discovered that we associate with Troy. Evidence is quite weak that it is Troy, other than being at the right(ish) spot, assuming it's in the Mediterranean.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Odin - maybe because he's always credited with things he's not alone in doing. Example, he gets the "leftover" fallen warriors AFTER Freya has chosen hers! Freya was also the one who taught Odin seiðr, though he may have been a shaman in his own tribe prior to invading the Vanir lands.
Huh, i read elsewhere that c. 100 AD Pagan Scandinavians begin to use Runes, Futark, due to influence of Roman Latin script. Similar to Celtic Ogham about the same time.
I am working on the Greek Gods and just thinking if I had to connect Odin with a Greek who would it be - Zeus, seemed like the almighty choice, but let's hear what Mercury offers - thou I would have set him closer to Loki hmmm... Let's find out!
Both Mercury and Wotan are associated with Wednesday and Planet Mercury as well. In the far East the Indians associate Wednesday and the Planet Mercury as well as the West Wind with Budha (Not Buddha). Their word for Wednesday (Wotans day) is BudhaVara. This indicates a common origin between these going back to Paleo Indo Europeans. I still maintain that the word Odin is derived from the name Oatannes, the Dagon fishman priestgod of Sumer c.3300BC via the semi mythical First Husband of Shammu Rammat (Semi Ramis) who was in turn mamed for the Elder God. And clearly roles of Gods change over time as the PIE Speaking Indo-Aryans moved outward from Sumer…
Hi, im curious about your view of germanic pagan Gods in relation to greek, slavic, celtic Gods etc. Do you think the Gods of other pantheons exist and you just chose to worship germanic gods? Or do you think Gods in other pantheons are just their expressions of the same Gods or whatever? Or do you think Gods from other pantheons don't exist and are just made up lul
Google Orkhon-Yenisey script. Word Aesir is cognate with Asia, Azer,Azov. Was Odin and the Aesir migrating steppe people entering europe? a mix of indo european and siberian and turkic?
when you talk on Odin , rember Odinnister have nothing to do one Skandinaven cultur, it is a new thing from England in ca 1900 , but you doing great video , like to see them , keep one the good work , sorry but i am a dane , my cultur are rapet in tv and other thing
@@Survivethejive No Enlish dude startet that in ca 1900 ,look in the arkive , but we in Skandinaven know that , look befor 1900 ther was any, nothing ,so dream one
The Finnish are an offshoot of Swedes, Napoleon on one of his journeys to Scandinavia have revealed that northern Russia and Finland have belonged to Swedes, Finnish speak another Germanic/Nordic/Gothic language considerably a secondary language belonging to Swedes or a tribe of Swedes Not everyone in Finland are part Mongol only a minority of 10% of them are while the majority are just closely Swedish or Nordic/Germanic/Gothic that go by as native Swedes, the last of the Mongol invaders that were set out to start a war and pillage party were eventually conquered, Huns are part of Mongols that were sent out to conquer eastern then western, northern, Southern and central/middle Europe yet were easily conquered by a tribe of Goths(Goths also helped conquer Rome when Rome betrayed their own linage and their neighbouring allies that helped built Rome and some of Rome expansion) Huns had assistance from traitors of Europe such as the Hans being one of the traitors, they are considered to be traitors to Germanic/Nordic/Gothic tribes since the Hans are consisted of Germanic tribe members.
Doggerland which flooded 9,000 years ago (started flooding 12,000 years ago) by the way, had ruling native tribes that have predated the flood of Doggerland with descendants that have coexisted during the flood along with descendants that have by chance managed to have separated and escaped the flood Doggerland was a land mass of it own which was a piece of Europe that have expanded across Britain, Ireland, Denmark with rest of Scandinavia basically was part of Scandinavia at one point hence why it is considered to be a Scandinavian nation and are factually Germanic/Nordic/Gothic rooted, also connected to Russia and Finland, almost connected to Canary Island Some of the Doggerlanders revealed ranged 12,000-10,000-9,000-8,000 odd years old were a lot like Scandinavians and Finnish/Finlanders, are to be light to tanned complexion, had either blue eyes or green eyes, were either blonde or brunette hair so far discovered implies to both each male and female tribal members, there was also a 9,000 odd year old Swedish woman who shared the exact same genetics as Finnish, Swedes and ancient Doggerlanders she also had 30 children.
@@ArnavSharma-bj4ct Language is of more importance from a point of view of an ethno-linguistic community like the Germans are and have been (rather than a regular ethnicity). The Indo-Uralic Hypothesis does not contradict that Haplogroup N is not part of the core PIE gene pool, but rather one that possibly diverged from Haplogroup R as early as when Uralic and PIE started to diverge, Uralic did not develop near the Caucasus like PIE did, which should suffice to explain any distinctions in Haplogroups.
@@peterszeug308 Maybe it is but paternal lineage is the trademark of every indo european civilization. N dna haplogroup is east asian and found mostly in Mongolian.
@@peterszeug308 Hmm interesting argument since both have ane dna so yeah very likely. But if you include finni ugrics you must also include native Americans who are also ane by descent.
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If you ever have the time it would be good to do an in-depth video on Heimdall as I’ve read before that it was him who gave us the runes not Odin but Odin took up the runes, and also I’ve read before that Heimdall is a version of Odin I don’t know if that’s true?
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I like that you mix in the esoteric aspects of the religion in to your analysis it gives a much better understanding
the mixture of hermes and odin was superficial one made for propaganda purposes because relating him to zeus would have the opposite effect since the german tribe allied with the roman had affinity for hermes, also your badmouthing of Prometheus was insufferable.
@@colorpg152 The Germanic people adopted a Roman week of their own accord and it spread to all Germanic peoples and all of them voluntarily equated Odin with Mercury's day so no it was not merely "propaganda purposes"
I imagine the earliest runes would have been carved in wood and have long since decomposed, making the subsequent surviving earliest stone carved runes appear as if the already established writing system they used suddenly appeared out of thin air.
quite so
@@Survivethejive Yeah, thought as much. 🥸👍
even a lot of the stone ones have probably been eroded by now we got very little left from the pre Cristian world
There's also the consideration that a lot of possible inscriptions on bronze, silver, and gold may have been destroyed when the objects were melted down or otherwise reworked for other uses.
@@copperlemon1 Yeah, that's a good point that often gets overlooked. We tend to think of these metals as having great longevity, and they do, but they are so valuable that they often get cannibalized for other uses.
My great uncle was the last bard (troubadour as they called themselves) in our family. He could sing his songs in perfect Medieval Spanish rhyme all night long. He could sing about anything and everything. I am very glad I was able to be witness to that dying world! My maternal ancestors were Canarians that ended up in the Caribbean some 300 years ago, but isolated themselves and preserved the culture (until the roads opened up the hills where they were from in the early 1950's).
Oh wow. I'd have loved to have been so lucky! I'm sure u will always honor his memory.
I didn't know how lucky I was since I was just a kid back then, but I do know now. @@jmaaybraak
Anyway I could find information on this ? And gather it? I want to become the same
@@williampatrick8814Onto what? Most of his theories are wrong. His only redeeming trait was being based.
very cool, you should carry on the tradition
Between you and Creaganford, this is very interesting to learn how the old Germanic peoples reasoned and thought. We might never know exactly how they lived but we know a lot more today than when these studies started, which is true of almost all science and humanities.
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Well I sat down for a quick listen to see what the video is about and lo and behold I'm now at the end. Shows you just how entertaining and informative this was.
Always looking forward to your videos 😁 they are always really interesting and insightful. Greetings from Essex
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When I choose the runes from a bag they are very accurate to my situation. They say, "Stand Still" and "This is the winter of your life" and "I can of my own self do nothing," and "Protection." I'm disabled and bedridden and I get these same runes all the time, even before I became this disabled, decades ago. Other people pick from my bag and get different runes that give more promising forecasts for themselves which fits their lives.
I think this is the closest practical explanation of what is the Germanic mystery school. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I’m glad you explained this, I’ve been wanting to understand just this topic for quite some time
Psycopomp, Hanged God, Lord of the Draugr and the Wild Hunt. Wayfarer, wanderer, beggar, King.
I read a book recently called The Hanged God by Shani Oates. I dont know much about the author and I tend to dismiss left hand path beliefs; but i thought her theory how the act of hanging criminals in America was tied to old Odinic tradition was very interesting. Pulling someone up from the ground by a rope thats been tossed over a tree branch as a way to suspend them between "here" and "there." Leaving them suspended to be judged by the Hanged God, or lord of the dead. She also mentioned older examples where corpses would have wooden chips with inscribed runes placed in their mouths so that they would be forced to speak to the Hanged God.
I think another interesting connection between Odin, galdr, and the runes is his gift to Ask and Embla, Ønd (breath/soul). There is an obvious linguistic connection between breath and soul. But galdr or song is nothing but specialized breathe, exhalation. By breathing a certain controlled way you craft a galdr, essentially. I don’t think the connection is a coincidence, perhaps the gift of galdr to man was a refinement of his first gift.
I think you are exactly right about this. The runes and the knowledge contained therein are much older than the written form. I am fascinated by the idea that speaking a rune is what activates its empowerment. After all, what is speech or language but a way to bring forth the abstract( thought) into the concrete reality?
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Was that a picture of Yuval Noah Harari used for one of the bad guys??..or am I seeing things. Lol. Oh the Jews aren't going to like that one. xD
Dev of the game here, it was ;) @@87stevan
Extremely interesting! Thank you for this and for spreading your knowledge
If Odin is Divine extasy or frency, then he is also akin to DIONYSUS.
Great video! Good point about Aesir being galdra smiths, I had not heard that before. According to Havamal it may be galdr is associated with walking through nature, I usually pray when on nature walks. The word rune may refer to whispered galdr, in SOng of Roland Ganelon whispered a sort of prayer to his sword. The song of roland was maybe a galdr to inculcate certain values in the French.
I've come to the understanding that the Greek Hermes, Roman Mercury, Egyptian Thoth, and Biblical Enoch, are all one and the same person. I had never considered that Odin was within the realm of possibilities for comparison. Quite an interesting subject to study.
It's a hypothesis. Don't mistake it for an understanding. Happy researching!
Can’t wait for the courses! Thanks for all you do!
Appreciate the discussion of galdr
Hah, I was about to write a comment about the Finnish "runo" and it's possible connection to Galdr, but you beat me to it. Great video as always, keep up the good work!
Cool, thanks!
Why is Helshinski so Houish?
In the Havamal it is said that Woden looked "down to the depths" as he hung upon the Tree (Truth), of which no man knows where its roots run (even though we do know where a few run). It is further said that Woden did this for nine days and nine nights before he took up the runes with a roaring scream.
Now, according to Hesiod,
"For a brazen anvil falling down from heaven nine nights and days would reach the earth upon the tenth: and again, a brazen anvil falling from earth nine nights and days would reach Tartarus upon the tenth."
Woden looked down to the very foundation of reality, and while he discovered that the Tree was ultimately rooted in Ginnungagap/Chaos, he did not reject it. Rather he (had already) embraced it and now invigorated it.
Rudra the vedic god is said to be the patron god of the vratyas a mannerbund group similar to the ulfhednar.(Source: atharvaveda 15:1)
And considering that both odinn and rudra in their root mean rage and fury makes me believe that they are connected to each other
I came to the same conclusion about Tyr after learning about the Armenian Mihr :
"Together with the Vedic common noun mitra, the Avestan common noun miθra derives from Proto-Indo-Iranian *mitrám (Mitra), from the root *mi- "to bind", with the "tool suffix" -tra- "causing to". Thus, etymologically mitra/miθra means "that which causes binding", preserved in the Avestan word for "Covenant, Contract, Oath".
In Middle Iranian languages (Middle Persian, Parthian etc.), miθra became mihr, from which New Persian مهر mehr and Armenian Միհր Mihr and Մհեր Mher ultimately derive."
Mithras->Mihr->Tyr
The etymology and attributes of Mithra also fit the stories and attributes of Tyr. We know he had something to do with binding people together and as overseer of the "t(h)ing" where contracts/agreements were made and justice was spoken, just like Mithra :
"Mithra (Avestan: 𐬨𐬌𐬚𐬭𐬀 Miθra, Old Persian: 𐎷𐎰𐎼 Miθra) is an ancient Iranian deity of covenants, light, oaths, justice, the Sun, contracts, and friendship. In addition to being the divinity of contracts, Mithra is also a judicial figure, an all-seeing protector of Truth (Asha), and the guardian of cattle, the harvest, and the Waters."
It also makes sense on a linguistic level. The Iranic root "mi-" is to bind, the Germanic version of it is "ti-", from which we have words like "to tie" in English.
In Dutch for example "aantijgen" is to tie/bind somebody to a crime for example (aan = to, tijgen = tie).
The next point is that the Armenian Mihr kind of had the same status in the pantheon :
"Mihr - Cognate with the Iranian Mithra. God of the sun and light, son of Aramazd, the brother of Anahit and Nane. Historically, despite his high place in the pantheon, worship of Mihr was eclipsed by Vahagn."
Vahagn can be equated to Thor/Donar :
"Vahagn - A "k'aj" (brave). Etymologically derived from Iranian Verethragna (via Vahram -> Vram -> Vam + -agn). The storm god and dragon slayer, identified with the Greek Hercules."
This eclipse of worship of Tyr by Thor seemed to be happening in Europe as well.
The next point is that the Anatolians had a god that is very clearly linked to the Sky Father root : Sius.
Linking Tyr to the same root makes no sense at all and is linguistically far fetched.
Linking Tyr to Mihr and Mithra makes all the sense.
Some suggestions what the first line at # 138 Haavaamaal could indicate and what clues it might lit:
"Veit ek at ek hekk vindga meidi a"
"Do i know that i hung on a windy tree (meidi)"
Do i,are rhetorical and shows a dreamy shamanic state of mind.
Windy,picture a horisontal sway,latitude or the earth equatorial orbit.
Meidi,might aswell be a pyramide the tree of life,since its the only time its in use at the sagas and old norse.
The twelve counsil might points to the months,the Zodiacs of 2160 years in its 25920 years of orbit
Let’s not forget that Apollo at one time was also associated with Mercury in Greece before he was associated with the Sun. The way Mercury travels through the sky confused the Greeks (at first) therefore making them think it was a different planet from the Mercury they seen at night. Therefore Apollo was its day aspect and Hermes was it’s night aspect.
Apollo also formerly had a mannerbund and wolf association
@@Survivethejive definitely and ravens are sacred to him as well. I think Odin’s missing eye may be symbolism of a Solar Cult or Black Sun Cult
Apollo is linked with Baldr.
Odin is similar to Welnos (the night-sky god counterpart of Dyeus [Tyr] i.e. day-sky god), Veles, Velnias, Velns, Varuna, Ouranos, and Dionysus.
@@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 yes I 100% agree. He’s also very very similiar to Rudra-Shiva. Odin is the meeting of opposites like Dionysus as you said.
I'd love to hear your take on Jason Reza Jorjani's Prometheanism after this one
This was a true scholarly feat. Thank you for making it and keeping these stories and myths and facts alive.
never forget your ancestors never forget their struggle to create a better world for us
Odin personifies the interaction between the Niolithic Farmers who entered Gaul, Germania and the British isles, for like HERMES, who is the Son of ZEUS, the Celts, Germans and British are the Children of the Niolithic Farmers, the Anatolians, Mediterraneans, Indo-Europeans.
Odin is indeed THOTH, HERMES and MERCURY.
THOTH is the Egyptian HERMES, and as we know, Scotia established Scotland, yet another possible indication of how HERMES aka THOTH, is Wotan-Odin!
Germanic people have among the least EEF ancestry of all Europeans
@@Survivethejive Then how did they acquire farming, if not by the direct tutelage of Niolithic, Mediterranean Farmers?
R1a and b, actually has it's roots in the Middle East, under Haplogroup R1A, so that whole Yamnaya Russo agenda is quite overtaxed and overly inflated.
The Niolithic Farmers passed on their farming ways to the Germans, Celts and core Europeans like Greeks and Romans (Italians), also remember, Cattle Domestication comes from the Fertile Crescent aka Anatolia, home of Indo European languages.
The Niolithic Farmer, Mediterranean expansion is supported by the fact that Odin is HERMES-THOTH.
He is referencing genetic studies I am sure, rather than speculation which seems to be what you are doing. @@loganus9114
The possibility of a connection between Odinic cult and the Hellenic esoteric tradition of Hermeticism is very interesting. I'm interested in Hermeticism because of how much of a well-developed and preserved form of pagan esotericism it is, which is unusual.
Maybe no earthly connection but pertaining to the same metaphysical reality
Hermes Trismugistus gets around
I think you were right to say that the Futhark runes might have been influenced by the Etruscans - the runes are very reminiscent of the Etruscan script; the people of Etruscan origin who would become the Rhaeti must have taken their script with them from northern Italy on their migration to the Germanic world. Makes sense then that the syncretism between Rhaeti/Etruscan and native Germanic elites would birth Futhark.
Regardless of which script it comes from, it is unlikely to have anything to do with a migration to the Germanic world
You should look into Irish folk tales. Tricksters are always the heroes of the stories.
Druder is from the Cellt , Odin( the guy have 100 name) is a german thing way befor the vikings we found things in Denmark from , 500 AD same time was the Deer danser , is so wild man , sorry my English are not 100%
Runo in Finnish means poem, runous, poetry
Moden Finnish that is
This is just me, playing a synonym word play, and what words sound like each other. Galdr remind me of 2 Norwegian words.
Gal, that means insane, but mostly a person who scream words that does not mean anything.
It supposedly have its origin in galinn or gala, that was enchanting songs.
(this could be the phenomena of speaking in tongues)
And gale, that is the scream the roster scream in the morning.
This make me suspect Galdr is the magic of using your voice to make things happen.
Like the rooster, that awakens the sun each morning with it's spells.
Or a king, inspiring his menn.
But this is just me spitballing, and I could be completely wrong.
What if Odin is actually Saturn/ Kronos cos his son is the StrormGod who kind took over from Pops? Some Greek sources say Kronos became governor of part of the Underworld.
Saturn is more linked with Njördr.
The only thing I'm curious about is if Galdr related to the oral interpretation of written works. Most of the worlds surviving religions teach you "how to read the text" through spiritual leaders and it sounds like the Runes and Galdr were performed simultaneously. I bring this up as a distinction from Galdr just being songs used in a pre-writing era for remembering information.
Do you draw any similarities between Hermes having a Caduceus with two snakes and Odin having Gugnir with two ravens (Huginn | Muninn)?
I would assume having a staff or spear of any kind would represent authority, like a modern scepter, but is there any (historical | mythological) significance in the pairing of familiar-esque animals?
Great video, thanks.
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Heathen researchers re-interpreting ancient sources is the mythological equivalent of experimental archeology. Gotta live it first to really understand it
In modern Finnish, "runo" no longer has any sacred or esoteric significance and merely means "poem" (and "runoilija" means "poet"). The Finnish word for "rune" is "riimu". It's unfortunate that English translations of the Finnish national epic, the "Kalevala", mis-translate the word "runo" as "rune", when it means "poem". BTW, to my knowledge, no evidence of the use of runes has been found in the Finnish historical and archaeological record, but if I am wrong about that, then please, someone correct me.
My favorite insight into the legend of Odin was by the late great English author Colin Wilson.
Odin gave one of his eyes to Fricka, in exchange for the power of the Law. He sacrificed a part of his spiritual vision in order to manifest his will in the earthly realm.
He sacrificed himself to himself, his higher self, in order to become more than man.
Such is the power of the runes.
I am a fan of Wilson but never knew he wrote about Odin. Where does he do this? odin never gave his eye to Freyja
@@SurvivethejiveHere you go, this is from Wilson’s Religion And The Rebel (in which he’s referencing Richard Wagner’s Ring of the Nibelung):
*”Readers who know Wagner’s music drama will remember the story of how Wotan, the Leader of the Gods, gives away one of his eyes in exchange for Fricka. Fricka brings him, as her dowry, all the forces of the Law.
Wotan is the pure force of creativeness; he is the poet, the visionary, the idealist, the man of genius through whose dreams and visions all civilization advances. He is a clear mirror in which the Will of the Life Force is reflected. But as a visionary, he has no practical power; his visions stay in his own brain. That is why he needs the alliance with Fricka, who brings him the power of the Law-the power to put his visions into practice. But in exchange for Fricka, he has to give away one of his eyes: that is to say, the man of pure genius has to compromise when he wants power to put his ideals into action.”*
In the same section Wilson also discusses “mimesis” (memory? Memir?) as being one of the themes of Wagner’s Ring cycle. But you may be right, there could be some of Wagner’s and Wilson’s own creative license being taken here.
Comparative theology always sounds like a discussion comparing Marvel to DC to me.
Perhaps a more fitting translation of Oden is “trance one” or “the entranced one” or “the one who is capable of achieving a trance like state in themselves but also giving it to others”. The role of a shaman is to do this same thing, achieve trance in themselves and others. Drinking mead, chanting & reading could all be perceived as trance like states. Imagine being an unlettered person at the time and watching an elite person go completely still and entranced at the sight of runes and then they come out of it knowing all sorts of mysterious things like this funny bit of carved antler is a comb
Thankyou. Very interesting.
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galdr may be similar in concept to the Vedas which were (are) traditionally sung and are an aural tradition. perhaps the songs were easier to understand/harder to keep from the masses than the art of reading and writing
great you have it right - practice it heal
Jabbing Mantis? Looks like that Yuval Transhuman guy.
it is him
I've held for years Tyr was the original supreme god, based largely from linguistics, but not entirely. I've never seen your older videos, but I heard you discuss in this one you used to hold that belief. It seems to be semi-controversial in the rare circumstance someone has reached that conclusion.
Fantastic video, as always Tom!
Off subject, but what do you think about the theory about Kura-Araxe invasions in Balkans+Greeks Islands (Crete include) and Italy ?
A brilliant video as always, Tom! Question for you: do you believe that Odin is represented in Tacitus' creation story? And if so, would you say that he is Tuisto, Mannus, or Irmin?
Possibly irmin
Greco-Egyptian Thoth-Hermes was associated with writing and judgement of the dead, said to have invented letters/writing. Communication. In my practice I experienced once when I seemed to be simultaneously contemplating and sensing in the room a lower Cthonic space or underworld that made me unnerved that in a moment I experienced the symbol for Mercury sort of drop into the room and alleviate the tension and snap me out of that and I simultaneously thought of Odin as Hermodr riding to the underworld and that of the duality of the rational and irrational parts of consciousness. I know it sounds schizo but when I was younger I was practicing and experimenting with ritual and esoteric stuff to see if it was legit. These things are both psychological in a Jungian sense but there is an overlap between the physical and non-physical. Sincerity, Repetition and not lusting for results over time you can experience the mysteries but take heed and study the myths well because there are immense practical applications in the stories and symbols that become mind blowing when you see how they apply when you become aware and it's important to learn how to ground yourself and become intimate with Algiz. Cheers thanks for your work Tom and hope this didn't come off too patchouli lol.
Thank you for the informative video.
I love all your videos as I'm interested in part of my ancestry.
I'm from South Africa , My maternal side is Austrian and my paternal line is french, so I'm half white and the other half is french Lol.
Among the woodland Indians like the Shawnee of Ohio a special relationship was given to the Uncle on the mother's side that was even closer than the child's father. American writers had interpreted this to mean that since the father may not be sure that the child was actually his that this relationship was cultivated by the mothers' brother(s) since they could be sure they were related. But I do believe monogamy was practiced. So maybe the custom might arise from the ice age when it is thought there was some northern European contact in the Americas.
Before I watch this, i feel like asking why no one bring up Athena/Minerva as linked to Odin.
Both are associated with war and wisdom, sages and birds,(owl for athena, ravens for odin), both use a spear as a main weapon. you could throw in Morrigan there aswell.
Its just feel the similarities are so in your face its weird not to mention it.
Ancient peoples were very particular about the gender of the god. They would not equate a male god to a female goddess no matter how similar they were.
Freyja
yes hence my question, as the similarities are imo too obvious @@reecerobin8413
well yes since freyja is a warrior godess and so on, but the details like birds, spears, as far as I know Freyja had a Boar and cats. and Athena is renowed for her cleverness kinda like you mentioned how Odin was in the video.@@Survivethejive
@@Survivethejive freyja is more like Aphrodite. Nothing like Athena imo. Complete opposites in many ways.
Lugh leaving his people and joining the tribe of dan. Odin/lugh joins the tribe and learns of the new language and can communicate between the two worlds. Gives his children the knowledge he learns. He is a diplomat and wordsmith. The underworld being the land of the formians, after they were banished from Ireland.
Doesn't Odin practice sei∂r to some extent? Shouldn't we consider that a fourth form of magick that he knows?
Yes but it isn’t acquired through sacrifice or wiles. It comes from the Vanir and is shameful
Sitting back enjoying some light roast coffee with a bit of cream no sugar with a table steak cooked rare and cut with a buck knife ,
not sure why I included all that information guess I just want you to know I have good taste.
I know 2 runes
I want to know more!
In terms of fun but unlikely theories, I'd love to hear any thoughts you have on the East Coast Phonecian influenced origin of the Celts, the claim that the Homeric epics belong to the Norse Bronze age based on place names and only moved to greece with the Dorian Invasion, and claims that Britonic may have been a Germanic language before the Anglo Saxon invasion, related to Belgian, leading to the limited celtic vocabulary.
Is this the theory which holds that Troy was located in Finland? Doesn't this theory suffer rather a lot from the problem that Troy has actually been discovered by archeologists, in the Mediterranean?
@@icollectbadgers There is a city that has been discovered that we associate with Troy. Evidence is quite weak that it is Troy, other than being at the right(ish) spot, assuming it's in the Mediterranean.
Hail Odin!
Secret knowledge held only for designated people in indigenous peoples of Australia. This practice is ancient.
I always say, if you took the storm god aspects of Zeus and gave them to Herakles, Zeus would almost mirror Woden and Herakles would mirror Thunor.
When did some European languages make the dental/denti-alveolar stops (t, d) purely alveolar stops? Like English and German?
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Odin - maybe because he's always credited with things he's not alone in doing.
Example, he gets the "leftover" fallen warriors AFTER Freya has chosen hers!
Freya was also the one who taught Odin seiðr, though he may have been a shaman in his own tribe prior to invading the Vanir lands.
Huh, i read elsewhere that c. 100 AD Pagan Scandinavians begin to use Runes, Futark, due to influence of Roman Latin script. Similar to Celtic Ogham about the same time.
As i said the script was deliberately created by a small number of people roughly 2000 years ago
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I am working on the Greek Gods and just thinking if I had to connect Odin with a Greek who would it be - Zeus, seemed like the almighty choice, but let's hear what Mercury offers - thou I would have set him closer to Loki hmmm... Let's find out!
Nerthus is a good of wagons I believe I don't know if that's related to a trade god
No she wasn’t. She was conveyed on a wagon like many other gods were
What do you think about identifying Odin with Rudra-Shiva?
Halo's seem to be a fairly universal depiction for those who have attained or are divine. Where did it all start?
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Looking forward to Starting Heathenry!
Aw yeah, time to create the stone of philosophers.
When you pray do you use the Anglo Saxon or Norse versions of the Gods names. For example would you use Tyr or Tiw?
Both
Odin, is Mercury, Hermes, Nabu, Rudra
Toth
nah
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Thank you so much for this.
It's very,very, appreciated.
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Is it only the mothers brother or can it also be the fathers brother?
Do you gather with other pagans to worship and study. I would like to be a part of such a practice.
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Both Mercury and Wotan are associated with Wednesday and Planet Mercury as well. In the far East the Indians associate Wednesday and the Planet Mercury as well as the West Wind with Budha (Not Buddha). Their word for Wednesday (Wotans day) is BudhaVara. This indicates a common origin between these going back to Paleo Indo Europeans. I still maintain that the word Odin is derived from the name Oatannes, the Dagon fishman priestgod of Sumer c.3300BC via the semi mythical First Husband of Shammu Rammat (Semi Ramis) who was in turn mamed for the Elder God. And clearly roles of Gods change over time as the PIE Speaking Indo-Aryans moved outward from Sumer…
Serious question here, what are the origins of the seven day week , which seems to me to Be almost global and to go far back in time
Nice work Tom. The Grim Reaper…any link to Woden you think?
Hi, im curious about your view of germanic pagan Gods in relation to greek, slavic, celtic Gods etc. Do you think the Gods of other pantheons exist and you just chose to worship germanic gods? Or do you think Gods in other pantheons are just their expressions of the same Gods or whatever? Or do you think Gods from other pantheons don't exist and are just made up lul
Ethnic interpretations of the same divine beings
Google Orkhon-Yenisey script. Word Aesir is cognate with Asia, Azer,Azov.
Was Odin and the Aesir migrating steppe people entering europe? a mix of indo european and siberian and turkic?
when you talk on Odin , rember Odinnister have nothing to do one Skandinaven cultur, it is a new thing from England in ca 1900 , but you doing great video , like to see them , keep one the good work , sorry but i am a dane , my cultur are rapet in tv and other thing
Wodanaz originated in Scandinavia
@@Survivethejive No Enlish dude startet that in ca 1900 ,look in the arkive , but we in Skandinaven know that , look befor 1900 ther was any, nothing ,so dream one
@@Survivethejive i know odin is from Skandinaven my cultur dummy ,wher have you see that , one the E-net ,we are grining of you fools
@@arngrimandersen5690 The oldest reference to Wodnaz is found near Jelling! You are not well informed at all
i dont talk wher that come from , i live 21 km from Jelling ,i know that ,you must misunderstod , what i say , and that okay, sorry i was flame up
I must admit, cultures that value and prize the use trickery and deception against others do seem to share some roots with semitic cultural values.
Ancient Greeks valued deception and trickery of enemies. So did all ancient Europeans. So do the Japanese. In fact most cultures do
The Finnish are an offshoot of Swedes, Napoleon on one of his journeys to Scandinavia have revealed that northern Russia and Finland have belonged to Swedes, Finnish speak another Germanic/Nordic/Gothic language considerably a secondary language belonging to Swedes or a tribe of Swedes
Not everyone in Finland are part Mongol only a minority of 10% of them are while the majority are just closely Swedish or Nordic/Germanic/Gothic that go by as native Swedes, the last of the Mongol invaders that were set out to start a war and pillage party were eventually conquered, Huns are part of Mongols that were sent out to conquer eastern then western, northern, Southern and central/middle Europe yet were easily conquered by a tribe of Goths(Goths also helped conquer Rome when Rome betrayed their own linage and their neighbouring allies that helped built Rome and some of Rome expansion)
Huns had assistance from traitors of Europe such as the Hans being one of the traitors, they are considered to be traitors to Germanic/Nordic/Gothic tribes since the Hans are consisted of Germanic tribe members.
Doggerland which flooded 9,000 years ago (started flooding 12,000 years ago) by the way, had ruling native tribes that have predated the flood of Doggerland with descendants that have coexisted during the flood along with descendants that have by chance managed to have separated and escaped the flood
Doggerland was a land mass of it own which was a piece of Europe that have expanded across Britain, Ireland, Denmark with rest of Scandinavia basically was part of Scandinavia at one point hence why it is considered to be a Scandinavian nation and are factually Germanic/Nordic/Gothic rooted, also connected to Russia and Finland, almost connected to Canary Island
Some of the Doggerlanders revealed ranged 12,000-10,000-9,000-8,000 odd years old were a lot like Scandinavians and Finnish/Finlanders, are to be light to tanned complexion, had either blue eyes or green eyes, were either blonde or brunette hair so far discovered implies to both each male and female tribal members, there was also a 9,000 odd year old Swedish woman who shared the exact same genetics as Finnish, Swedes and ancient Doggerlanders she also had 30 children.
Gives clues on who Cheddar Man people really are and what they actually do looked like.
There never was an ice age during Doggerland era.
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Would it be crazy for the untrained eye to think the Old Turkic script in someway resembles Germanic runes?
31:50 Indo-Uralic is a thing! Finns and Germans are indeed related when looking at the evidence.
They are but paternally not. N dna is not indo european
@@ArnavSharma-bj4ct Language is of more importance from a point of view of an ethno-linguistic community like the Germans are and have been (rather than a regular ethnicity).
The Indo-Uralic Hypothesis does not contradict that Haplogroup N is not part of the core PIE gene pool, but rather one that possibly diverged from Haplogroup R as early as when Uralic and PIE started to diverge, Uralic did not develop near the Caucasus like PIE did, which should suffice to explain any distinctions in Haplogroups.
@@peterszeug308 Maybe it is but paternal lineage is the trademark of every indo european civilization. N dna haplogroup is east asian and found mostly in Mongolian.
@@ArnavSharma-bj4ct Today, and 10.000 years ago? Or 20.000?
@@peterszeug308 Hmm interesting argument since both have ane dna so yeah very likely. But if you include finni ugrics you must also include native Americans who are also ane by descent.
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