Amen, this is exactly what I have been telling folks for decades. The last track and the first track sound twice as wide as the first two. Go get em guys!
Great video! I need help with something though. I'm trying to pan lead guitar harmonies with the higher guitar harmony on the left and lower harmony on the right. It sounds awesome through headphones, but when I play it through my speakers (left and right) the lead guitars are almost inaudible. How can I achieve being able to hear it on the headphones and speakers the same?
Loved the parts, I would have left the first doubled pair left and right though and run that higher register “lead rhythm” right down the middle with some volume punch cause guitar was never meant to be quiet.
Dave! this tutorial helped a lot man! So just to clear things out instead of having doubled same hard L and hard R backing track, the second option is two different riff one panned hard L and another panned hard R right?
+Hell Hammer you can set the metronome to not click during playback, only during recording.. OR hot key it. I press M on my keyboard and the metronome is on/off.
Hello, how would you recomend for a chorus distortion guitar part? Should i record 4 mono tracks and pan them left and right for stereo and mix each 2 of them differently or should I record 2 mono tracks and duplicate them, by using 4 distinct tracks I obtain more depth but there is a pretty strong reverb due to the difference in playing them.
Do you have to do 2 takes to blend amp tones?. I re-amped the same take with 2 different tones one with an OD808 pedal, the mic was left in the same position and I got major phase issues, can it be done?? Lol.
But if you were panning the guitar left and right wouldn't you just use the first recorded guitar instead of having to play it again, then there wouldn't be any phase issues?
+Ethan Fitzgerald 2 different takes of a performance will not cause phase issues.... Phase issues are from 2 mics recording the exact same source/performance. Record your amp with a 57 slammed to the grill, and a large condenser further away, off axis.. During playback, each track alone sounds good, but when played together guess what happens!? Sounds thin and lifeless. Flip the phase on one, and youre in business. Bett yet, do what he is doing, and just use multiple takes. There's no phase problems with this at all.
Ethan Fitzgerald You never play riffs etc. the exact same way (slight differences with timing and accuracy..) so by recording the same track again it gives a diverse tone. If you just copied the existing track there wouldn't be anything new and it wouldn't sound any different/better.
Steve Stockmal turning on Low Latency Monitoring in pro tools basically mutes the record enabled track so you are just hearing the input of your interface. This all depends on what interface you are using and how you have it setup. The point of this is so that you don’t hear any weird latency issues between what’s coming out of your DAW and what’s coming out of your interface inputs. Most interfaces now have input monitoring on them so whatever your tracking isn’t delayed. Now if you want to monitor thru your DAW, say if you’re using an amp sim plugin, you will want to leave low latency monitoring off and make sure your hardware buffer size is set as low as possible without it overloading the computer.
Ok thank you, that really helps. I keep forgetting that Pro Tools has the "I" (I'm guessing that for Input monitoring). I've been experimenting with stomp boxes lately (for guitar sounds) basically like a glorified DI, but it creates a delay [in fact the delay ALMOST sounds cool, like the John Lennon vocal slap]. I really appreciate your time in answering my question, Steve : ) ps. I have the Clarett series from Focusrite. I've got a 2 input interface at home and the 8 input at my studio for tracking live drums.
Steve Stockmal No problem, latency and monitoring is a very confusing issue. Yes, the “I” is for input monitoring. To get less latency you need to lower your buffer size as low as you can without it glitching. Just remember to put it back to a high setting when you are done tracking. As long as you don’t have too much cpu intensive processing going on it should be fine. Now you only want to use the input monitoring if you are wanting to hear the plugins on your track(if you have an amp sim or digital pedals or something). If you are using an amp or some kind of external thing for your DI you should turn on low latency monitoring and use your Scarlett to monitor your sound. The Scarlett does feature input monitoring. I believe it should be located on the front of the interface. It may sound cool to have that delay effect, but it’s better to do it without the delay. The delay will make it really hard to keep your timing. A quick recap: 1.if you are recording an amp or external amp sim coming from outside your DAW; turn on low latency monitoring and monitor thru your interface. 2.if you are recording using plugins inside your DAW; turn off input monitoring on your interface, lower your buffer size to as low as your cpu can handle without errors, Click the “i” button so you can hear what’s coming thru, and then raise your buffer size when you are done tracking. Some people will make a separate session for tracking and one for mixing. That way you don’t have a bunch of plugins on all the other tracks. It’s less cpu intensive. Then just import when you are done. Good luck!
Awesome ! : ) Got it. (Note: Scarlett is the model below mine and USB only, the Clarett is Thunderbolt...but basically same difference). Thanks again, back to recording !!!!!!!!!
Steve Stockmal Gotcha. I read that wrong. Well even better! I know the Clarett has a lot better features and ad/da, and with thunderbolt there’s basically no latency with the interface.
Well, I know that's better, and that's what everybody does when having a 2 guitar band, but what about 1 guitar bands? they just need to double them, cuz they wouldn't be able to replicate the other part live, unless they loop it. With 1 guitar songs I just double track, and when live I just place 2 mics on different positions in the cab, pan hard L&R, different EQ on the board and when possible, put a 15ms delay in one of the channels, and there u have a fake stereo guitar live. I don't have such trouble with my band (we're 3 guitarists covering all the stereo image L,R and C) so we can replicate whatever we do on the records in a live situation :)
Both good points but one thing I tend to remember in the studio is that I prefer to have my recordings sound as good as possible, regardless of what can or can't be replicated in a live setting. This includes parts or instruments that may not always be present at a live show or even effects that couldn't be duplicated live unless using backing tracks (which I've done before, too). Sure, some people want the live show to remain somewhat true to the sound of the record (if they're that familiar) but what matters is how well it presents to a live audience. Some studio versions of songs made terrible live performances, so they were completely revamped and made classic in the process.
nothing earth shattering about his playing. except that super underrated consistency. Good job man.
Absolutely love being able to see how these kinds of things are tracked in real time
Too bad we could barely hear the sound of the guitars on playback. :-(
Amen, this is exactly what I have been telling folks for decades. The last track and the first track sound twice as wide as the first two. Go get em guys!
Awesome tutorial, its easy to forget simple changes that can totally change a song. I'd love to see you chase this song idea and do a series on it!
Looking forward to that David!
Thanks man this has been a help much appreciated cheers from Ireland 🇮🇪 Brian
your guitar playing is actually very technically good as far as matching the first two recordings.
Where's the panning?
Excellent technic man, same note but at a different position gives the sense of stereo and deepness. That is exactly what have been looking for.
Great video! I need help with something though. I'm trying to pan lead guitar harmonies with the higher guitar harmony on the left and lower harmony on the right. It sounds awesome through headphones, but when I play it through my speakers (left and right) the lead guitars are almost inaudible. How can I achieve being able to hear it on the headphones and speakers the same?
Loved the parts, I would have left the first doubled pair left and right though and run that higher register “lead rhythm” right down the middle with some volume punch cause guitar was never meant to be quiet.
I those chords you chose. It has a very current vibe to it
guitar playing sounded good, nice chords
Really great concept and tutorial. The guitars were really too low to hear them on playback tho
Dave! this tutorial helped a lot man! So just to clear things out instead of having doubled same hard L and hard R backing track, the second option is two different riff one panned hard L and another panned hard R right?
Awesome to hear JusticePunkProductions! Thanks for checking it out man. You got it!
nice. i will surely use this for future originals
"all ready to record...hit the button...turned the metronome off during playback..." Story of my life. lol
+Hell Hammer you can set the metronome to not click during playback, only during recording..
OR hot key it. I press M on my keyboard and the metronome is on/off.
It happens all the time Haha
This video rocks, it confirms my self taught technique
thaniks for the tips.
+David Glenn What are the chords you played man? Love the song and great video!
Hey David. Great video. Could you share your 11R rig/preset for this video? Sounds awesome and would be deeply appreciated.
Great technique. I use it a lot :)
I like the chord Progression. Simple as it is, there's a lot of Imagination to it, Greetz
What song is this? Pretty cool chords
Hello, how would you recomend for a chorus distortion guitar part? Should i record 4 mono tracks and pan them left and right for stereo and mix each 2 of them differently or should I record 2 mono tracks and duplicate them, by using 4 distinct tracks I obtain more depth but there is a pretty strong reverb due to the difference in playing them.
Do you have to do 2 takes to blend amp tones?. I re-amped the same take with 2 different tones one with an OD808 pedal, the mic was left in the same position and I got major phase issues, can it be done?? Lol.
GENIUS
How do you eq these guitars ?
Should i eq them as one ?
How do you create multiple mono tracks for Guitar ?? Everytime i create a 2nd mono or sample track it goes for the input of my mic.
What is the plugin you're using that you pop up?
But if you were panning the guitar left and right wouldn't you just use the first recorded guitar instead of having to play it again, then there wouldn't be any phase issues?
+Ethan Fitzgerald then it would just sound louder and not thicker
+Ethan Fitzgerald 2 different takes of a performance will not cause phase issues.... Phase issues are from 2 mics recording the exact same source/performance.
Record your amp with a 57 slammed to the grill, and a large condenser further away, off axis.. During playback, each track alone sounds good, but when played together guess what happens!? Sounds thin and lifeless. Flip the phase on one, and youre in business.
Bett yet, do what he is doing, and just use multiple takes. There's no phase problems with this at all.
Ethan Fitzgerald You never play riffs etc. the exact same way (slight differences with timing and accuracy..) so by recording the same track again it gives a diverse tone. If you just copied the existing track there wouldn't be anything new and it wouldn't sound any different/better.
2 years late tho lol
I’m confused as to how to use Low Latency Monitoring !!!
Can you explain plz
Steve Stockmal turning on Low Latency Monitoring in pro tools basically mutes the record enabled track so you are just hearing the input of your interface. This all depends on what interface you are using and how you have it setup. The point of this is so that you don’t hear any weird latency issues between what’s coming out of your DAW and what’s coming out of your interface inputs. Most interfaces now have input monitoring on them so whatever your tracking isn’t delayed. Now if you want to monitor thru your DAW, say if you’re using an amp sim plugin, you will want to leave low latency monitoring off and make sure your hardware buffer size is set as low as possible without it overloading the computer.
Ok thank you, that really helps. I keep forgetting that Pro Tools has the "I" (I'm guessing that for Input monitoring). I've been experimenting with stomp boxes lately (for guitar sounds) basically like a glorified DI, but it creates a delay [in fact the delay ALMOST sounds cool, like the John Lennon vocal slap].
I really appreciate your time in answering my question, Steve : )
ps. I have the Clarett series from Focusrite. I've got a 2 input interface at home and the 8 input at my studio for tracking live drums.
Steve Stockmal No problem, latency and monitoring is a very confusing issue.
Yes, the “I” is for input monitoring. To get less latency you need to lower your buffer size as low as you can without it glitching. Just remember to put it back to a high setting when you are done tracking. As long as you don’t have too much cpu intensive processing going on it should be fine. Now you only want to use the input monitoring if you are wanting to hear the plugins on your track(if you have an amp sim or digital pedals or something). If you are using an amp or some kind of external thing for your DI you should turn on low latency monitoring and use your Scarlett to monitor your sound. The Scarlett does feature input monitoring. I believe it should be located on the front of the interface.
It may sound cool to have that delay effect, but it’s better to do it without the delay. The delay will make it really hard to keep your timing.
A quick recap:
1.if you are recording an amp or external amp sim coming from outside your DAW; turn on low latency monitoring and monitor thru your interface.
2.if you are recording using plugins inside your DAW; turn off input monitoring on your interface, lower your buffer size to as low as your cpu can handle without errors, Click the “i” button so you can hear what’s coming thru, and then raise your buffer size when you are done tracking.
Some people will make a separate session for tracking and one for mixing. That way you don’t have a bunch of plugins on all the other tracks. It’s less cpu intensive. Then just import when you are done.
Good luck!
Awesome ! : ) Got it. (Note: Scarlett is the model below mine and USB only, the Clarett is Thunderbolt...but basically same difference). Thanks again, back to recording !!!!!!!!!
Steve Stockmal Gotcha. I read that wrong. Well even better! I know the Clarett has a lot better features and ad/da, and with thunderbolt there’s basically no latency with the interface.
Chords to the song you were playing at 2:50?
Didn't say anything about panning the tracks left/right. Do you pan or keep both tracks center? Thanks.
He's panning them hard left and hard right.
what is the 1st chord progression?
Eu acho que Bm7 Bm7/C# ou D/C# e G...ou
What the virtual amplifier guitar you used ?
Thanks for watching Ahmad Dimas Syahid Gusti. I used my Eleven Rack. Made by Avid
thnkyou
David Glenn What are the chords you played man? Love the song and great video!
2:16 may i know the chords?
x
3
2
x
2
x
One of my favorite chord.
Really good.
thanks for watching!
New tutorial from *****.
Really good points David. As usual I love it.
Old but gold. Two years later but still great advice. Remember when this was first uploaded. Time sure does fly by.
What chords are those?
Well, I know that's better, and that's what everybody does when having a 2 guitar band, but what about 1 guitar bands? they just need to double them, cuz they wouldn't be able to replicate the other part live, unless they loop it.
With 1 guitar songs I just double track, and when live I just place 2 mics on different positions in the cab, pan hard L&R, different EQ on the board and when possible, put a 15ms delay in one of the channels, and there u have a fake stereo guitar live.
I don't have such trouble with my band (we're 3 guitarists covering all the stereo image L,R and C) so we can replicate whatever we do on the records in a live situation :)
Both good points but one thing I tend to remember in the studio is that I prefer to have my recordings sound as good as possible, regardless of what can or can't be replicated in a live setting. This includes parts or instruments that may not always be present at a live show or even effects that couldn't be duplicated live unless using backing tracks (which I've done before, too). Sure, some people want the live show to remain somewhat true to the sound of the record (if they're that familiar) but what matters is how well it presents to a live audience. Some studio versions of songs made terrible live performances, so they were completely revamped and made classic in the process.
Man the first sounded Way better
lets make a guitar video where you cant hear the guitars?
When a guy's spends over half the video talkin he can't play