DC was trying so hard to be like Marvel to only realize all they have to do was to be themselves. DC has changed the Superhero genre with Joker just like the Dark Knight did and I'm glad they are back on track.
That’s true all they need to do is just stick with how grueling the comics were and not try to be like what marvel is if they can stick with that they’ll be win cause in terms of comics they’re good same with tv shows in my opinion the only place they’re lacking is movies
@Marcel X10 true, but what made DC special with The Dark Knight trilogy and Joker was that they don't feel like "superhero movies". That can be done with any superhero movie just like Marvel did with Logan.
The scariest thing about this movie was how real it felt [edit:] Coming back to this 10 months later at nearly 9k likes, genuinely brings me comfort in our place here. This movie felt real because it is the personification of the clown world we live in and you all get that, we are born to die and the only thing repressing us of our humanity is our fear of death, and sequentially of each other. People are afraid to be real; most importantly to themselves, it is an injustice and a tragedy and it is self inflicted. To quote Terence McKenna "there are only two true emotions, love and fear", and its getting crazier out there.
I believe his mom was far more abusive than it is portrayed. I dont think Arthur was able to fully express his emotions. His mom didnt want to deal with it so she told him to always be happy and make people smile. That along with the physical abuse from his mom's boyfriend. He never learned how to be anything but happy. And so even when he is genuinely sad or angry, he smiles or dances or laughs. That's the only coping mechanism he knows.
I can't get this film out of my head.. I don't understand the hate... I don't know why they think you'd walk out of the Cinema wanting to incite violence and burn down the world - I walked out of the Cinema thinking I should be even more careful of my words.. be more kind and genuinely nice to people I bump into on a daily basis. On a general level, it is quite telling and revealing of the glaring inequality and how dissatisfied, oppressed, neglected, sick and tired of petty bureaucratic and social rules people really are. A real depiction of society today.. what a tragically beautiful movie it is! I really don't understand the hate.. people would rather bullshit themselves than face the reality and change or demand change for the better.
MariamM i think they mean is, we’re trying more to be ourselves, and that’s why the hate we want a free society where you can do everything you want, not to follow the pack, not get humiliated because who you’re or what you wear, and being nicer to each other won’t help, where there is love there’s always hate..
@@Blondinska what case? Which joker was best? I'm not sure that will ever be clear. Heath Ledger captured the brilliant yet crazy, unpredictable, unstable yet firmly in control, the zero plan having dog chasing a car looking man who actually has a master plan for not only catching the car but how to then put it to maximum use, joker who you wouldn't want running wild in your city. Joaquin Phoenix wonderfully captured the tortured soul who can't catch a break and is beaten down by everyone and everything. A decent man deep down who longs to be cared about by someone yet has absolutely no one that cares if he lives or dies. They called him "king of the incels"derisively and dismissively when it's the crushing reality he is the symbol for a man that couldn't get any female attention no matter what he did (short of winning the lotto) despite how much he desperately desired the touch of a caring woman. Denied even the basic human need of affection his world spirals downward as events happen to him which give him the somewhat justified chance to enact a form of justice. He's no psychopath, clearly shown in the scene with the midget. He is a man with severe mental illnesses who is treated like garbage by everyone and is at his wit's end. At the big ending of the movie he only wishes to kill himself he doesn't intend to harm anyone else but as the fence once again play out cruelly showing him the mockery that has served as only attention he gets at all mostly. His mother turning out to be horrible and the cause of his mental woes slaughters any semblance of notions of care for/of another human followed by his idol and father figure seeking to humiliate him is when he decides to go with plan B. Heath showed the Joker with a mysterious background appearing as a force of chaos. A murderous, seemingly unstable and insane Joker who turns out to be a criminal mastermind with meticulous plans which serve a logical purpose we can all understand. Phoenix showed us the complete background, the degradation of a man to the point that he had nothing else to lose, no one could hurt him anymore. A scarily believable decent into darkness a man with no true desire to harm others could end up nonetheless after so much torment endured. Slipping into a role we can all understand. As for which is best.. never thought Ledger would even be rivaled again. I was wrong. It's certainly a close call as high as working has joined him on that level of excellence far above the rest. Which one is best ? Truly shocked that question could require deep pondering. But it does. And it's amazingly great
"I used to think my life was a tragedy. Now I realize it's a fucking comedy." people think the way they treated him so poorly was funny so he decided that killing people must be fucking hilarious. It's disturbing and sad. I can't get over that.
To be mocked for trying to make people happy is not just a sick joke, but the killing joke, the joke that pushes him to the edge and throws him into insanity, that, is the killing joke. i agree that he was just trying to make people happy, and that isn't what made him insane, it was society that turned their back on him, causing us to feel pity and sorrow for all of the things he has to go through on his way to becoming Joker. you see one of the Jokers most famous Iines is "all it takes is one bad day" -Batman the killing joke. that is all the joker has are bad days in this film, that is also a contribution to his insanity.
To me this song is about suffering and sorrow. Instead of turning that into something uplifting it turns it into something that you must embrace. A true masterpiece.
The worst part is that critics and the media are proving this film right. They mock anybody that relates to his struggle and torment, labelling them "incels" without even knowing what that means. People like Arthur are real, but they need our help; not our mockery.
The first scene where he forces himself to smile and a tear drops off his right eye says it all. A man forced to smile in a shitty world just to get his bread.
yall mad dumb in that scene he didnt blink in order for the act to be a lot more dramatic eventually causing one of his eyes to drop a tear but considering the director enjoyed it the kept the scene for the original movie
@Soon Forgot Nope. I read about how at first they didn't what they wanted Arthur to do after he SPOILER killed those men on the subway. Then when they were sent this piece of music, Todd Phillips the director of Joker just played it and Phoenix let the music flow. They decided to go with that
@@cyanide3263 if would have gone with the script I dont think it would the same reaction as this the script reaction would have shown how sane Arthur was but this was EPIC
@@chickenharlemtv6577 it's really a matter of perspective. It depends on the person. Some would use what they have behind as a motivation to fight harder, but those who lost everything will use that anger to fight harder too
I used to go to the cinema very often with a friend of mine, both passionate about movies. Around 50 minutes from the multiplex to our home by car and we always used to take advantage of that time discussing the film we had just seen; actors, screenplay, scenography, direction and so on. So many words spent on the story of Mother!, so many words talking about the outstanding sound effects of Dunkirk, so much time spent talking about movies. That night, right after Joker, we exited the theater, got into the car, and drove back home without saying anything. Not even one word. We both knew it was a masterpiece, there was no need to point that out. We spent that time thinking about how hard, violent, and true this movie has been. It really hit me like a freight train at full speed. I still remember the emotions I had watching it with this blaring soundtrack on the background. I didn't cry, but I really wanted to for Arthur.
I too am very passionate for movies ✊🏻 Whenever I leave the theater after an awesome movie, I sometimes like to predict what that movie could be nominated for at the Oscars 🤔
i watched it with a friend who love movies too. When I ask him how was the movie, he said he didn't know how to explain and I reply me too but we both know we just experience a cinematic masterpiece
I remember when the scene when he shoots those 3 dudes in the subway I felt horrified, everything from the cinematography to the sound design made it feel like I actually just saw someone commit a murder. It was low tier violence but it was unbashedly realistic, which is the punch that I feel that even movies where the violence is supposed to shock you completely lacks
That very moment during production. Phoenix was supposed to look in the mirror terrified about what he has done. Something else came to mind for the actor. So he danced in the room. No one else but him and the cameraman. The cameraman himself improvised the cinematography of the shots. The director and the producer were so astounded by the way the scene was executed that they immediately kept it and used a shot where the camera points up with Phoenix's character at the bottom. That became the first movie poster for Joker. Beautifully haunting in its simplicity. Arthur dies. Joker rises.
Wow... That gives the scene even more meaning than I thought it had. I didn't understand why the bathroom dance scene existed when I first saw _Joker,_ but after I thought about it, my interpretation was that it was Arthur trying to restore some peace to his addled mind after going through such a traumatic event. That was reinforced by a comment Todd Phillips made about the character -- "Arthur has music in his soul." -- and that it follows a concept set up earlier in the film, during the sign spinning job, where he's dancing to the piano music and it's one of the only times in the film where Arthur is even remotely happy (until that moment of joy is smashed by a gang of scoundrels). But now I know the full profoundness of that scene. It's not Arthur dancing to try and comfort himself over what he did. It's Joker embracing what he did. I haven't seen a film where there was so much that could be unpacked from every scene since _Fight Club._ God, I love this movie.
@@Ooth9999 todd Phillips, the producer, made an interview regarding the scene. The entire thing was improvised and Todd himself was the cameraman in that scene.
I watched this movie in cinema in a period of my life when I was in depression and except my psychologist there was nobody who understood how I felt, nobody I could talk to. I had tears in my eyes almost the whole movie because only person I felt sorry for or connected to on this 'depression' level was Joker a person who doesn't exist in the real life but somehow in that moment I wasn't alone and I could understand his 'feelings'...
It’s sad to think that if Batman existed when Arthur was suffering, he might’ve actually helped him. Arthur’s sign being stolen, the train guys beating him, medication being taken away, it might’ve been avoided if Bruce was Batman back then, but now, he’s his enemy
But the situations that Arthur was subjected to is the reason Batman is the man he is today. Might have become a spoiled brat who enjoyed his parents money, he would have never left and trained under grand masters and Ras under the league of shadows and would never have known the difference between desperation and pleasure of committing a crime because he stole so he wouldn’t starve. He would only use his money to probably help others rather than taking direct action and joker would still have ruled the city.
@@mustang4636 You abandoned yourself and every other lost person in this world. Each one of us is God we have God inside us and if you want to blame God about the way world is right now look no further than yourself cause we are all responsible for this
Even 4 years later, this theme got me chills. Even 4 years later, I love seeing again and again this movie. Even 4 years later, I am still impressed by the movie and the wonderful acting performance pf Joaquin Phoenix. Even 4 years later, I am still mind blown by the photography, the atmosphere, the colors, the scenario of this movie. This movie is a huge masterpiece. One of the best movies released in the 2010 - 2020 decenny. If you didn't like it, just review it, just to be sure. Maybe you didn't get the true message of this film. This film says a lot of amazing stuffs about the society and the mental health.
AbhisheK Singh I actually leaned over to my wife and whispered “He’s dissociating and becoming the joker”. Then before the curtain opens at the end, I told her the same again and added, this isn’t going to go how he practiced it, Arthur practiced but Joker is here now.
@@GellertTV He is not a good person, true. But this is because people kept mistreating him to point where he snapped. Not everything is black and white.
@@jadon7702 you say it like he's wrong. He never said a single wrong thing in his comment. He said that Joker kills innocent people, and is a psychopath. Both statements are true. Sure, it's because he was pushed to that point, but that doesn't make him any less of a psychopath. I don't get why you guys keep idolising him and saying he did nothing wrong, this is his origin story, but he's still a villain, the story isn't even 100% true because it's being told by a delusional narcissist
"You're a monster" "A monster? A monster is many things. A monster could be as simple as a cat to a mouse. A monster could be as simple as a dark room to a small child. A monster could be as simple as Cancer to a healthy person. Me? I'm just a guy whose sick and tired of the whole world being too dark for its own good... I'm not a monster. I'm just a guy who said 'enough' and pulled the trigger. "
We dont recognize who the real monster is until you take a good look at everything around us...now that is one sick joke...people suffering and for what..this world is truly twisted by chaos and blood...filled with intense greed for money and power....I just a guy that just wants the world to realize its mistakes...and pay for its sins...
Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.”
Thats how I saw this whole movie's message: Just that little bit of kindness can be enough to save lives. Not to condone the acts of Columbine as GOOD or JUST or anything other than pure evil; but on the morning of the shooting, just before the gunfire began the shooters pulled into the parking lot, and one of the shooters met another student named Brooks in the parking who was smoking a cigarette. Brooks had apparently been one of the few students in the whole school who was ever respectful to them or nice. When Harris (one of the two shooters) walked up to him with his duffel bag of guns and bombs, Brooks told Harris he missed a test, and asked where he was. Harris said "It doesn't matter now", then Harris just told Brooks "Brooks, I like you now. Get out of here. Go home.". Brooks was the only student who they intentionally let get out of there alive. Likely because he was respectful to them when no one else really was. . . makes you wonder who else in your life you need to be nicer to. That one kid who seems sorta out of it, and depressed, may be on the brink of a massacre, and being nice to him may save your life if not several others. Kindness is so important.
Thats why he spared the short guys life. He was always nice to Arthur. Even in his rage Arthur was sane enough to know he didn't want to hurt that guy.
There was a mother and her little child sitting in front of me during the movie. I think she thought that it was going to be one of those super hero movies. She ended up covering the child's eyes for the whole movie.
I don't expect anyone to notice my comment, but since I've watched this movie, I have been noticing that the movie was so true that it showed me so much about society. Everyone around me acted like I was just being weird after I watch the movie, but just like Author said: "Is it just me... or is it getting crazier out there?", where you just realized how awful people are, you tried to be nice but they just laugh at you at treating you badly, and after experiencing that, you just want to live your life the way you feel happiest and freest, people just come into your way for fun to see you panic, and if you tried doing the same thing as what they did to you, everyone just started hating you for being such a fucking crap, where they don't even though who made me go psycho in the first place.
Infinite sadness. A broken mind, and a broken man, lost inside of himself. Something snaps...something that tethers him to the final tenuous fibers of his sanity. He feels empowered. He feels free, for the first time in ages. That stirs a terrible, darkened thing that has been hibernating within, waiting for the right moment to emerge. With blood still drying on his hands... Joker is born.
Joker. The embodiment of hatred, craziness, chaos, and a victim... Villains are born because of a people was mocked, bullied, and beaten to death for no reason.
Sometimes, people only want a reason to show their true evil. Did those men really deserve to die? No. The joker maybe a victim of circumstance, but in no way can you defend his actions. He is a insane man. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Dr. Strange was pretty good, if only for the personal character arc. But yeah, I could do with more dark DC films. After I get my proper sequel to Man of Steel, that is.
@@infinitypilot Funnily enough, Joaquin Phoenix was actually Marvel's first choice for Dr. Strange, but he didn't accept the offer because he didn't want to sign a multi film contract, and thus be tied to the character.
Definitely, even though I thought Thanos was a good character. The new Marvel films are kind of campy to be honest, I like how DC is going gritty and down to Earth.
@@LonglivetheSovietUnion I love how the movie doesn't need to tell you "I felt liberated", "I felt sad", and so on. It is just there. More dialogues would have been redundant. We can feel his humanity, but we can't go were he goes.
Becuase it feels dark and sad, but at the same time it feels beautiful and powerfull. Like when youre more comfortable being sad and locked in your room, when you prefer rain and silent because you feel like its part of yourself. And the power is just for some people, people who get mad.
two sides subs' - Everything you said was beautiful and exactly what I was thinking and feeling. I just couldn't articulate as well as you. The funny thing is when I made that comment and was listening to this composition I was actually in a dark room by myself with my depression & a bottle of whiskey feeling exactly like Arthur Fleck.
Hildur Guonadottir 100% deserved the Oscar for Original Score. This piece was both dark and dove into a greater depth of realism, and blended perfectly with Joaquin Phoenix's improvised dance.
I hope it changed you to be better... To look out for those around us that are hurting & ignored... To help those forgotten by a corrupt system... Bullied by the powerful... I hope this movie helped you to be human... As we all should be..... We don't need any more Joker's created thru our negligence.
Plenty of broken people around. They don't commit multiple murders. Someone mocking you and you shoot them in the head. You need to be institutionalised.
If you don't pass the line of what means to be human, which is killing for the sake of it, you aren't broken. Doesn't matter what amount of missery is being hold, suffering isn't inhuman, having no empathy is.
Joker. Just the name. The Joker. Everyone who's read the comics will see the joker as this crazy killer clown. But this joker is THE joker. Not an embodiment of chaos and death of destruction, but the one discared card of the deck that forces itself into the game. This Joker wanted to make people happy. And was put down for trying. But after Arthur's death and Jokers birth, it's just like he said. His death makes more sense than life
Funny, a synonym of his name can mean "Jester" The Jester was a medieval title, it allowed one to be the only one to make fun of the king. Murray Franklin (Main antagonist) can be seen as the king, and Joker as the Jester.
Endgame is only emotional if you've seen every marvel films, or at least most to understand the mcu, but joker is just emotional regardless if you know or don't know about other previous films
i watched every marvel film, only cried because my two favourite characters got replaced but that was literally it. the rest was boring. joker actually moved me
For the last 30 minutes of the film, I was glued to my seat and couldn’t look away. Even after the final scene and the credits began to roll, I was still mesmerized. I didn’t even look away for a second. I was left to sit with what I just experienced. I wasn’t expecting anything from the movie, but it took me to a place I can never come back from. I absolutely love this movie. I had to see it more than once in the cinema. It’s that good.
"i hope my death makes more cents than my life" "the worst thing about having a mental illness is that people expect you to act as if you dont have one" "if it was me dying on the sidewalk you'd wall right over me" "i use to think my life is a tragedy, no i realize, its a fucking comedy" "through my whole life, i didnt even know if i existed... but i do, and people are starting to notice" "i just dont wanna feel so bad anymore..." -Arthur Fleck
The tragedy in these words say it all. All he wanted was to make people laugh and live a good life but he was treated badly by society, showing how much society doesn’t give a shit over the poor. Arthur went through all of it and now he released his true self: the Joker
I am redzemper I think he means the beauty within this music, that beauty being replaced with tragedy and evil undertones as soon as the music intensifies, with Arthur dead and The Joker rising anew.
They are two totally different movies dc and marvel or not the categories are far apart. Joker shouldn't even be put in the same category as the DC movies coming out. Joker is a raw masterpiece. this comment should just not exist.
@@EladB. they not all masterpieces lol some have some weird CGI effects and some storylines are mehh. i think what makes Joker Great is that it makes people feel so many emotions and its something that could easily be real. The marvel movies are dope cause of the consistent storyline thats been going for years but honestly they two different movies.
Marvel’s Cinematic Universe success made DC forget that back in the days of the comics, they were superior. They tried to imitate Marvel to little avail, and this movie is DC going back to it’s old success and showing the world that DC is entirely different to Marvel. DC is dark, psychological and realistic, Marvel is light-hearted, heroic and fun. You can like both, but artistically Joker is better than anything that Endgame could’ve been.
Honestly, I have to agree - now, I enjoy both Marvel & DC - generally I prefer Marvel, but Joker stands above the MCU for me just for how beautifully it's made.
The comics of DC tend to carry dark, bleak, and somewhat realistic tones which would then flesh out most characters. This film carries that vibe and shows how some people just snap like Arthur.
i enjoyed endgame to the fullest and still have to agree with this. I will forever prefer DC. Marvel may have a crap tonne of money right now but DC will be back and it will be better
The director hates comics though, and tried to do his own thing. He never cared about DC's legacy, he just wanted to make a good movie that different from others.
Joker is a reflection of what damage society can inflict on another person. However, I believe the movie is a reflection of how people feel about society and its cruelty. People tend to forget that when you push someone too far, they may return the pain tenfold. Society creates villains and monsters, callous to the point where you stand as an emotionless statue. This music itself is a reflection of the sorrow buried deep within the darkness and the rubble of despair.
@@tradcathgroyper7411 pry means ledger knew what he was doing and and wanted to gain control of everything to prove a point. Phoenix was just a guy trying to get by but got mixed up in the madness of the world. Ledger got beat by Batman and ended up getting put away. Phoenix became a message and symbol of what Gotham truly is, a town forever lost and blind to its own madness
@@pleurat0027 I know! Unfortunately my, and our reality is this. And the quote of this awesome film that describes me very much, amazingly is not this one I wrote above... but this one: "All I have, are negative thoughts." Thanks for your answer!
Always someone like you... it hurts ....but it's the truth !! Right now , at this point of my life I would like to point out that I have found my soulmate but in a friendly way , I hope you get what I mean!! We love each other so much and she has helped so many times just like I have helped her , so in life , there are only a couple of things that can make you feel like yourself , the right person and their love , it's the greatest feeling and one day you will all feel it , you can make it , believe in yourself :)
I've honestly never had feelings for Joker until after I watched this movie. All he wanted to do was just be a normal person and make people laugh and fit in. This is sad cuz this really does happen to some people in real life.
This soundtrack needs an award.
It has won already, in Venice Film Festival
Brenna Mainzer an Oscar specifically... that’s how films get validation in America, sadly
The Icelandic Sagas were an inspiration to Tolkien.
Yes yes yes
I liked this twice
If there's 2 Oscars that Joker should win no questions asked is best soundtrack and best performance.
I can't move on from this film.
Same...
Same..I’ve done seen it twice. It’s fantastic. If a movie has me thinking days after then it’s done it’s job
I've seen the film now twice, but I just can't get enough, I want to see it again ..and again..and again...
Same here. Unleashed emotions that i never expected to come out
Me too, my friend. Me too...
DC was trying so hard to be like Marvel to only realize all they have to do was to be themselves.
DC has changed the Superhero genre with Joker just like the Dark Knight did and I'm glad they are back on track.
Watch them fuck it up with Superman Batman 2
@@errornull390 I have faith in them
That’s true all they need to do is just stick with how grueling the comics were and not try to be like what marvel is if they can stick with that they’ll be win cause in terms of comics they’re good same with tv shows in my opinion the only place they’re lacking is movies
@@errornull390 probably they'll learn their lesson.
@Marcel X10 true, but what made DC special with The Dark Knight trilogy and Joker was that they don't feel like "superhero movies". That can be done with any superhero movie just like Marvel did with Logan.
My complete and honest reaction to joker 2’s ending
...: "Do you want another joke, Todd Phillips?"
The scariest thing about this movie was how real it felt
[edit:] Coming back to this 10 months later at nearly 9k likes, genuinely brings me comfort in our place here. This movie felt real because it is the personification of the clown world we live in and you all get that, we are born to die and the only thing repressing us of our humanity is our fear of death, and sequentially of each other. People are afraid to be real; most importantly to themselves, it is an injustice and a tragedy and it is self inflicted. To quote Terence McKenna "there are only two true emotions, love and fear", and its getting crazier out there.
Its all abt how human mind works hehehe...Meow
Meghan Smith no
The movie's use of diegetic sound effects also made me nearly act as if I'm about to be killed by Joker.
Thats because you've experience malevolence in this world.
I know right. I remember how the audience freaked out when Joker shot Murray Franklin. The people scream just like they did in the movie.
He wants and needs to cry...he can't.....he can only laughs in every situation.....that part of the movie kills me.....
I believe his mom was far more abusive than it is portrayed. I dont think Arthur was able to fully express his emotions. His mom didnt want to deal with it so she told him to always be happy and make people smile. That along with the physical abuse from his mom's boyfriend. He never learned how to be anything but happy. And so even when he is genuinely sad or angry, he smiles or dances or laughs. That's the only coping mechanism he knows.
@@dennseth well said sir
I'm broke and crying poor Arthur
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Yes
I can't get this film out of my head..
I don't understand the hate... I don't know why they think you'd walk out of the Cinema wanting to incite violence and burn down the world - I walked out of the Cinema thinking I should be even more careful of my words.. be more kind and genuinely nice to people I bump into on a daily basis. On a general level, it is quite telling and revealing of the glaring inequality and how dissatisfied, oppressed, neglected, sick and tired of petty bureaucratic and social rules people really are. A real depiction of society today.. what a tragically beautiful movie it is! I really don't understand the hate.. people would rather bullshit themselves than face the reality and change or demand change for the better.
MariamM i think they mean is, we’re trying more to be ourselves, and that’s why the hate we want a free society where you can do everything you want, not to follow the pack, not get humiliated because who you’re or what you wear, and being nicer to each other won’t help, where there is love there’s always hate..
i burned downed my mom after the second watch
Best comment.
MariamM well said
Its painful to b.s.
2009: The joker is disturbing because of the murders he commits
2019: The joker is disturbing because of how much of ourselves we see in him
True
Uhh don't you mean 2008 or unless you mean Joker from Batman Arkham Asylum?
@@abramsullivan7764 No I don't. It came out at the end of 2008 which means people where still talking about it in 2009
Best explanation of the difference between Ledger’s and Phoenix’s performances. The case can be put to rest…
@@Blondinska what case? Which joker was best? I'm not sure that will ever be clear. Heath Ledger captured the brilliant yet crazy, unpredictable, unstable yet firmly in control, the zero plan having dog chasing a car looking man who actually has a master plan for not only catching the car but how to then put it to maximum use, joker who you wouldn't want running wild in your city.
Joaquin Phoenix wonderfully captured the tortured soul who can't catch a break and is beaten down by everyone and everything. A decent man deep down who longs to be cared about by someone yet has absolutely no one that cares if he lives or dies. They called him "king of the incels"derisively and dismissively when it's the crushing reality he is the symbol for a man that couldn't get any female attention no matter what he did (short of winning the lotto) despite how much he desperately desired the touch of a caring woman. Denied even the basic human need of affection his world spirals downward as events happen to him which give him the somewhat justified chance to enact a form of justice. He's no psychopath, clearly shown in the scene with the midget. He is a man with severe mental illnesses who is treated like garbage by everyone and is at his wit's end. At the big ending of the movie he only wishes to kill himself he doesn't intend to harm anyone else but as the fence once again play out cruelly showing him the mockery that has served as only attention he gets at all mostly. His mother turning out to be horrible and the cause of his mental woes slaughters any semblance of notions of care for/of another human followed by his idol and father figure seeking to humiliate him is when he decides to go with plan B.
Heath showed the Joker with a mysterious background appearing as a force of chaos. A murderous, seemingly unstable and insane Joker who turns out to be a criminal mastermind with meticulous plans which serve a logical purpose we can all understand.
Phoenix showed us the complete background, the degradation of a man to the point that he had nothing else to lose, no one could hurt him anymore. A scarily believable decent into darkness a man with no true desire to harm others could end up nonetheless after so much torment endured. Slipping into a role we can all understand.
As for which is best.. never thought Ledger would even be rivaled again. I was wrong. It's certainly a close call as high as working has joined him on that level of excellence far above the rest. Which one is best ? Truly shocked that question could require deep pondering. But it does. And it's amazingly great
This music won’t get out of my head and i can’t stop thinking about the movie
I have the same :D I love this movieee^^
Hey Taima, you're a really good dancer.
Same
Me either I'm obsessed with the movie
This music has been stuck in my head since GoT S8E4
To be mocked for trying to make people happy and idolized for making them suffer. What a sick joke.
This comment though...
"I used to think my life was a tragedy. Now I realize it's a fucking comedy."
people think the way they treated him so poorly was funny so he decided that killing people must be fucking hilarious.
It's disturbing and sad. I can't get over that.
That's a great way of putting it
The Killing Joke.
To be mocked for trying to make people happy is not just a sick joke, but the killing joke, the joke that pushes him to the edge and throws him into insanity, that, is the killing joke. i agree that he was just trying to make people happy, and that isn't what made him insane, it was society that turned their back on him, causing us to feel pity and sorrow for all of the things he has to go through on his way to becoming Joker. you see one of the Jokers most famous Iines is "all it takes is one bad day" -Batman the killing joke. that is all the joker has are bad days in this film, that is also a contribution to his insanity.
I never felt sadness, intensity, humor and then beauty in such a short time-span.
It was well made. I can't stop thinking of it.
Murray did though
A FILM OF MIXED EMOTIONS RAPIDLY!
I HOPE WHO ENJOYED IT WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER!
Its a pefect mix of shock, humor, sadness and intensity.
To me this song is about suffering and sorrow. Instead of turning that into something uplifting it turns it into something that you must embrace. A true masterpiece.
Fear Sherlock Holmes, this man is sbout to leave you jobless
the sad thing is he truly only wanted to make people laugh and happy. they bullied him for even trying
Om Raj It’s bad knowing that there may be people relating to the same shit Arthur had gone through in real life.
That's Gotham for yah
that's people for you
@@TheGuavaberry unfortunately
The worst part is that critics and the media are proving this film right. They mock anybody that relates to his struggle and torment, labelling them "incels" without even knowing what that means. People like Arthur are real, but they need our help; not our mockery.
The first scene where he forces himself to smile and a tear drops off his right eye says it all. A man forced to smile in a shitty world just to get his bread.
ok
Joaquin Pheonix wasn't acting in that scene, it was the first time he heard the song and this was his reaction
@@amchannel8087 source?
@@amchannel8087 he even cried, the tear drop wasnt meant in the scene but they still put it in
yall mad dumb in that scene he didnt blink in order for the act to be a lot more dramatic eventually causing one of his eyes to drop a tear but considering the director enjoyed it the kept the scene for the original movie
One quote from the movie is accurate: "Is it just me... or is it getting crazier out there?"
I will never forget the Joker dance. One of the most powerfull scene in cinematography.
And dark, very dark. He solve his problems transforming him into a fucking monster.. even that scene was painful.
for real. Joaquin Phoenix absolutely nailed that role
@@canaljoniano7197monster is a strong word. More like hero
I may be crazy but THIS movie can’t get out of my head. Legit I watched this movie for the 11th time. This movie is a masterpiece.
yeah I too have a weird obsession with this film.
Me too
My mum told me there's something wrong with me when I told her how many times I watched this film, that I need therapy.
Me to its epic
Me too. For me works as a comfort. I think this movie is like the best therapy session in my life that I never had.
The most magnificent element of this scene is the fact that the dance was Phoenix's improvisation (it wasn't in the script)
Just WoW!! 🤯
@Soon Forgot Nope. I read about how at first they didn't what they wanted Arthur to do after he SPOILER
killed those men on the subway. Then when they were sent this piece of music, Todd Phillips the director of Joker just played it and Phoenix let the music flow. They decided to go with that
I thought he was doing tai chi to try and relax
@@cyanide3263 if would have gone with the script I dont think it would the same reaction as this the script reaction would have shown how sane Arthur was but this was EPIC
@@1rename1 Actually he was celebrating. Dancing is when he feels powerful.
“The most dangerous kind of man is a man with nothing to lose.”
A man with everything to lose will fight harder.
@@slj3945 Not true a man with nothing to lose doesn't give 2 fucks about his life so he will just keep fighting harder 2.
Wow humans are lost. Have you heard of the word “depends?”
sometimes I do wanna destroy European monuments for my sickening pleasure
@@chickenharlemtv6577 it's really a matter of perspective. It depends on the person. Some would use what they have behind as a motivation to fight harder, but those who lost everything will use that anger to fight harder too
I’m glad there’s only 1 joker movie
ikr ☺️☺️
top movie of the year
Decade
Century.
ever
@@omarabdullah603 forever
@@gruszka__5140 always
This movie felt so real. Like, Arthur’s story could happen to anyone.
It did
@@meateater90000 oh no pp bro 😔
Gypsy crusader
@1Yan00 bep
look fot Gypsy Crusade history, the real joke
Sorry about your mom Arthur
How you're doing?
"I'm celebrating"
Joker 2019
Hype!
psychopath
How you're
pepega
Have you even seen the film?
El bromas
First Joker, great movie.
We don’t talk about the sequel.
I used to go to the cinema very often with a friend of mine, both passionate about movies. Around 50 minutes from the multiplex to our home by car and we always used to take advantage of that time discussing the film we had just seen; actors, screenplay, scenography, direction and so on. So many words spent on the story of Mother!, so many words talking about the outstanding sound effects of Dunkirk, so much time spent talking about movies.
That night, right after Joker, we exited the theater, got into the car, and drove back home without saying anything. Not even one word. We both knew it was a masterpiece, there was no need to point that out. We spent that time thinking about how hard, violent, and true this movie has been. It really hit me like a freight train at full speed. I still remember the emotions I had watching it with this blaring soundtrack on the background. I didn't cry, but I really wanted to for Arthur.
Same feeling as you... not a Word just sadness
Totalmente Federico!!! Al día de hoy sigo sintiendo lo mismo. Y ya hará un año del estreno de Joker éste próximo Octubre.
Hell yeah
I too am very passionate for movies ✊🏻 Whenever I leave the theater after an awesome movie,
I sometimes like to predict what that movie could be nominated for at the Oscars 🤔
i watched it with a friend who love movies too. When I ask him how was the movie, he said he didn't know how to explain and I reply me too but we both know we just experience a cinematic masterpiece
When someone dies in a movie its like: Oh no! Anyways.
But in this movie it felt so real.
In this movie everything had impact. From a singular gunshot that didn't even hit anyone to a brutal car crash.
Ha wait your serious
I mean the sound design did a great job
thats why modern spiderman movies suck. nothing holds weight. hes not responsible for his actions
I remember when the scene when he shoots those 3 dudes in the subway I felt horrified, everything from the cinematography to the sound design made it feel like I actually just saw someone commit a murder. It was low tier violence but it was unbashedly realistic, which is the punch that I feel that even movies where the violence is supposed to shock you completely lacks
That very moment during production.
Phoenix was supposed to look in the mirror terrified about what he has done.
Something else came to mind for the actor. So he danced in the room. No one else but him and the cameraman. The cameraman himself improvised the cinematography of the shots.
The director and the producer were so astounded by the way the scene was executed that they immediately kept it and used a shot where the camera points up with Phoenix's character at the bottom.
That became the first movie poster for Joker. Beautifully haunting in its simplicity.
Arthur dies.
Joker rises.
Wow... That gives the scene even more meaning than I thought it had.
I didn't understand why the bathroom dance scene existed when I first saw _Joker,_ but after I thought about it, my interpretation was that it was Arthur trying to restore some peace to his addled mind after going through such a traumatic event. That was reinforced by a comment Todd Phillips made about the character -- "Arthur has music in his soul." -- and that it follows a concept set up earlier in the film, during the sign spinning job, where he's dancing to the piano music and it's one of the only times in the film where Arthur is even remotely happy (until that moment of joy is smashed by a gang of scoundrels).
But now I know the full profoundness of that scene.
It's not Arthur dancing to try and comfort himself over what he did.
It's Joker embracing what he did.
I haven't seen a film where there was so much that could be unpacked from every scene since _Fight Club._ God, I love this movie.
Were you there that day or something lol, where did you hear this?
@@Ooth9999 todd Phillips, the producer, made an interview regarding the scene. The entire thing was improvised and Todd himself was the cameraman in that scene.
The cameraman was Todd Phillips, totally hypnotzed...
Tyler McNamer he also went in the fridge on his own behalf without being told
“The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.” -African Proverb"
I watched this movie in cinema in a period of my life when I was in depression and except my psychologist there was nobody who understood how I felt, nobody I could talk to. I had tears in my eyes almost the whole movie because only person I felt sorry for or connected to on this 'depression' level was Joker a person who doesn't exist in the real life but somehow in that moment I wasn't alone and I could understand his 'feelings'...
we together
@@johnsykes4513 no your not stop with your lies
This world is shity but you need to gain the strength to survive in this depressing world, good luck and I mean it, survive
@@hades-sw6xx you're*, and wtf?
@@hades-sw6xx shitty*
It’s sad to think that if Batman existed when Arthur was suffering, he might’ve actually helped him. Arthur’s sign being stolen, the train guys beating him, medication being taken away, it might’ve been avoided if Bruce was Batman back then, but now, he’s his enemy
Funny right.
Underrated comment
But the situations that Arthur was subjected to is the reason Batman is the man he is today. Might have become a spoiled brat who enjoyed his parents money, he would have never left and trained under grand masters and Ras under the league of shadows and would never have known the difference between desperation and pleasure of committing a crime because he stole so he wouldn’t starve. He would only use his money to probably help others rather than taking direct action and joker would still have ruled the city.
@@abielm8467 you realise this is in an alternate universe and isnt canon this joker never existed in the dc comics
@@MarcelMatani I know I’m saying this one created Batman because he went through some shit.
"The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't."
ಥ‿ಥ
This is so true
@@mustang4636 You abandoned yourself and every other lost person in this world. Each one of us is God we have God inside us and if you want to blame God about the way world is right now look no further than yourself cause we are all responsible for this
Thats exactly how I feel everyday xD
I just wanted to give him a hug through the whole movie :(
@God **Sharts in school bathroom**
Even 4 years later, this theme got me chills. Even 4 years later, I love seeing again and again this movie. Even 4 years later, I am still impressed by the movie and the wonderful acting performance pf Joaquin Phoenix. Even 4 years later, I am still mind blown by the photography, the atmosphere, the colors, the scenario of this movie.
This movie is a huge masterpiece. One of the best movies released in the 2010 - 2020 decenny. If you didn't like it, just review it, just to be sure. Maybe you didn't get the true message of this film. This film says a lot of amazing stuffs about the society and the mental health.
I agree
In This Scene
Arthur Is Dying
And Joker Is Rising
:(:)
Damn, I thought about the same thing when I was watching this scene. Amazing movie
Rising of the Joker
I didn't see it that way but makes totally sense
AbhisheK Singh I actually leaned over to my wife and whispered “He’s dissociating and becoming the joker”. Then before the curtain opens at the end, I told her the same again and added, this isn’t going to go how he practiced it, Arthur practiced but Joker is here now.
I'll never look at a dirty public bathroom the same way again
I will become the joker in it
@@noahsamad6603 You don't want to kill innocent people don't you huh
The joker is not a good person he is a psychopath
@@GellertTV He is not a good person, true. But this is because people kept mistreating him to point where he snapped. Not everything is black and white.
@@jadon7702 you say it like he's wrong. He never said a single wrong thing in his comment. He said that Joker kills innocent people, and is a psychopath. Both statements are true. Sure, it's because he was pushed to that point, but that doesn't make him any less of a psychopath. I don't get why you guys keep idolising him and saying he did nothing wrong, this is his origin story, but he's still a villain, the story isn't even 100% true because it's being told by a delusional narcissist
@@seandamonii5713 I didn't say he wasn't evil or a psychopath because he is, it's just about why he got to that point of killing people willy nilly.
What a fucking movie.
This is by far the best movie I've ever seen. Literally.
How many movies have you seen?
2? 3?
@@jacobking4504 name a better one
@@PomadaGaming I could name 100 better films.
@@jacobking4504 I think it's easily one if the best movies of the last decade. I don't know about "of all time" but it's all subjective
@@PomadaGaming Id say The Dark Knight is better
i just hope no one sees joker 2 and just let this be what it is ❤
“I’m waiting for the punch line”
“-There is no punch line”
Cause is not a joke
“It’s not a joke.”
he came for the head
The joke was that there was no punch line
Murr-AAAAY!
human and still scarier than Pennywise.
Not funnier than Pennywise though
Kristian Coleman like Joker said. “Comedy is subjective”.
No.
Humans are alot more frightening than movie monsters because they are real.
@@armanddehorta enough said
"You're a monster"
"A monster? A monster is many things. A monster could be as simple as a cat to a mouse. A monster could be as simple as a dark room to a small child. A monster could be as simple as Cancer to a healthy person. Me? I'm just a guy whose sick and tired of the whole world being too dark for its own good... I'm not a monster. I'm just a guy who said 'enough' and pulled the trigger. "
We dont recognize who the real monster is until you take a good look at everything around us...now that is one sick joke...people suffering and for what..this world is truly twisted by chaos and blood...filled with intense greed for money and power....I just a guy that just wants the world to realize its mistakes...and pay for its sins...
@Suicide_Skyscrapers Fuck, I was about to say it
K
I’m the thing who is more than a monster
After you first sentence, i had a strong urge to say: "I can swallow a bottle of alcohol and I'll feel like Godzilla!"
It's scary how relatable he is to many people including me
@alguem520 Yes the voice of the unheard!
Literally me 🤓
@@mcos7617 you dont get it now, but you will. mark my words.
@@mcos7617you don't need to post your face in the RUclips comment section bro
@@Sina.575 K
Heard joke once:
Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain.
Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up."
Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.”
A great opera indeed.
Everyone laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains fall. Funny joke.
Gotta love Watchmen!
rorschach's journal , october 16 th
Great statement.😑👏🌠👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤👤
People like Joker are a lot among us.
Who's here after Joaquin and Hildur won their well deserved Oscars?
I'm here because I can't forget this movie months after I watched it.
Yes
@@jonseon5952 yes
Jonseon I just watch it illegally
@トラッスいたMask the composer
I'm just gonna say this right now. This movie, despite it being almost 2 years old, is a modern classic.
Its crazy to think that it has been 4 years since this masterpiece was made 😳
Imagine if someone just took Arthur out to eat... what a small shed of kindness would’ve done to this man.
And would of save tons of lives
Thats how I saw this whole movie's message: Just that little bit of kindness can be enough to save lives. Not to condone the acts of Columbine as GOOD or JUST or anything other than pure evil; but on the morning of the shooting, just before the gunfire began the shooters pulled into the parking lot, and one of the shooters met another student named Brooks in the parking who was smoking a cigarette. Brooks had apparently been one of the few students in the whole school who was ever respectful to them or nice. When Harris (one of the two shooters) walked up to him with his duffel bag of guns and bombs, Brooks told Harris he missed a test, and asked where he was. Harris said "It doesn't matter now", then Harris just told Brooks "Brooks, I like you now. Get out of here. Go home.". Brooks was the only student who they intentionally let get out of there alive. Likely because he was respectful to them when no one else really was. . . makes you wonder who else in your life you need to be nicer to. That one kid who seems sorta out of it, and depressed, may be on the brink of a massacre, and being nice to him may save your life if not several others. Kindness is so important.
Let alone talk to him nicely.
I would do something like that
Thats why he spared the short guys life. He was always nice to Arthur. Even in his rage Arthur was sane enough to know he didn't want to hurt that guy.
There was a mother and her little child sitting in front of me during the movie. I think she thought that it was going to be one of those super hero movies. She ended up covering the child's eyes for the whole movie.
Do people not read age ratings?
@@oneaboveall4203 unfortunately not.
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Ah yes the Joker well known hero
Bruh over here in europe i couldn't watch it because i was 15 instead of 16..
What’s your name?
“I’m Bruce”.
(Goosebumps intensifies)
Forreal
LEONARDO BAGGIO sad part was seeing Bruce's parents die just like in dark knight
LEONARDO BAGGIO Yeah everyone in my theatre went crazy for that scene.
And while the fanboys creamed themselves, I just thought, "Why did the Wayne's even need to be in this again?"
From the moment I saw the kid in the trailer I knew it was Bruce.
I don't expect anyone to notice my comment, but since I've watched this movie, I have been noticing that the movie was so true that it showed me so much about society. Everyone around me acted like I was just being weird after I watch the movie, but just like Author said: "Is it just me... or is it getting crazier out there?", where you just realized how awful people are, you tried to be nice but they just laugh at you at treating you badly, and after experiencing that, you just want to live your life the way you feel happiest and freest, people just come into your way for fun to see you panic, and if you tried doing the same thing as what they did to you, everyone just started hating you for being such a fucking crap, where they don't even though who made me go psycho in the first place.
Calm down. That's how the world is what the fuck are you going to do.
I understand you
”As kids we loved the heroes.....as adults we understand the villain”
True mate.....
Wow, I never had tought like that. Good observation.
I always loved the villains.
Ye I musta been an Arthur kid
Copying other comments
Infinite sadness. A broken mind, and a broken man, lost inside of himself. Something snaps...something that tethers him to the final tenuous fibers of his sanity. He feels empowered. He feels free, for the first time in ages. That stirs a terrible, darkened thing that has been hibernating within, waiting for the right moment to emerge.
With blood still drying on his hands...
Joker is born.
"I used to think my life was a cringe compilation,now i realize its just a try not to laugh challenge"
~ Joker or something
And people just react to it
I hate and respect you at the same time.
Genius
I thought that the comment section of this vid is "try not to laugh challenge", now i realize its just "a fcking overwhelming cringe compilation"
Me in the theater restroom after watching joker 2
The score is fantastic - The dances were really amazing !
it was improvised
Damn, there is just something so sinister behind that cello. Hildur did a GREAT job with this. She has truly amazed me.
This is up there with John Williams and Han Zimmer soundtracks
@@professionalmemeenthusiast2117 Agreed! Also with Steve Jablonsky
@@professionalmemeenthusiast2117 Agreed. Hans Zimmer would be proud tbh.
@@ejiro241
The cello in this feels like a perfect follow up to the violin theme of Ledger's Joker.
@@professionalmemeenthusiast2117 Yea that's true. I had to keep this on repeat several times. Lol
Joker. The embodiment of hatred, craziness, chaos, and a victim...
Villains are born because of a people was mocked, bullied, and beaten to death for no reason.
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@@elizabethhildebrandt5604 #joshfight
Villian's are made because of the asshole bullies in the train.
Sometimes, people only want a reason to show their true evil. Did those men really deserve to die? No. The joker maybe a victim of circumstance, but in no way can you defend his actions. He is a insane man. Nothing more. Nothing less.
The Columbine murderers would loved this movie.
Almost 5 years later and still one of the greatest movies to come out in recent years
If 2020 had it‘s own soundtrack, this would definitely be the main theme.
Exactly man
12:58 PM | 2//9//2021
Yeah it would be good for now too
1:55 pm 24th of March,2022
Still would be perfect
1:30am 18/12/22
@@karnage2948 noice 🤌👌 20JAN2023
23/02/2023
Admit it , you liked the joker more than any marvel films
Dr. Strange was pretty good, if only for the personal character arc.
But yeah, I could do with more dark DC films. After I get my proper sequel to Man of Steel, that is.
i also liked it more than any dc movies (except the dark knight)
@@infinitypilot Funnily enough, Joaquin Phoenix was actually Marvel's first choice for Dr. Strange, but he didn't accept the offer because he didn't want to sign a multi film contract, and thus be tied to the character.
Yes, I loved it
Definitely, even though I thought Thanos was a good character. The new Marvel films are kind of campy to be honest, I like how DC is going gritty and down to Earth.
This movie is so beautiful but so tragic
Agree.
it’s not a tragedy, it’s a comedy
@@swaggypanda1808 No it's not, Joker thinks it's a comedy because he's gone insane
Bart Simpson r/woooosh
@@bartsimpson1305 it was a line from the movie
Nobody wanted Joker 2 but they still made it but with zero effort.
Three victims where his first kills, and when he started dancing in the bathroom it just feels like darkness and evil was crawling into his soul
I think he felt liberated
darkness and evil is his true nature, this is the pivotal scene in which the joker is awakened by change
Yeah you heard about the 3 homeless man killed the day that this movie was released. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@LonglivetheSovietUnion I love how the movie doesn't need to tell you "I felt liberated", "I felt sad", and so on. It is just there. More dialogues would have been redundant. We can feel his humanity, but we can't go were he goes.
They would kill him. No one would care.
Arthur Has a point. The society in this movie is really bad
“The worlds evils are not monsters, they are men. And that is the most frightening thing about them”.
😂
@@ericalonso2113 ?
@@whoasked9263 he's laughing at the truth of Zack A's words
And the self righteous ones are the most dangerous ones as well
@@darikai219 ah i see
If depression was ever to be represented by music, this would be it.
It's your imagination or reality?
LinedStorm - YES! A very haunting, sad sounding but beautiful composition of music. I agree!
As a person with depression, I could say YES.
Depressive people rise for our anthem LJSJDKASJSJ LMAO
Becuase it feels dark and sad, but at the same time it feels beautiful and powerfull.
Like when youre more comfortable being sad and locked in your room, when you prefer rain and silent because you feel like its part of yourself.
And the power is just for some people, people who get mad.
two sides subs' - Everything you said was beautiful and exactly what I was thinking and feeling. I just couldn't articulate as well as you. The funny thing is when I made that comment and was listening to this composition I was actually in a dark room by myself with my depression & a bottle of whiskey feeling exactly like Arthur Fleck.
Me waking up to go to work when the hawk tuah girl is set for life
Hahahaha just like me 😂
Hildur Guonadottir 100% deserved the Oscar for Original Score. This piece was both dark and dove into a greater depth of realism, and blended perfectly with Joaquin Phoenix's improvised dance.
Even though Joaquin had received an Oscar for this performance.
This movie changed me forever. I kinda almost cried at one point in the movie.
Agreed
UCM Juice this movie is overrated
I DID cry during numerous parts of the movie and cheered Arthur on with each point he makes about the world and how it treats the mentally ill
I hope it changed you to be better... To look out for those around us that are hurting & ignored... To help those forgotten by a corrupt system... Bullied by the powerful... I hope this movie helped you to be human... As we all should be..... We don't need any more Joker's created thru our negligence.
Straight Edge Punk it is not overrated in the slightest
this is way better than the main theme.
You're goddamn right mister Ezio Auditoré da Firenze
And altair is better than you
i was gonna say your full name and be impressed but somebody already fucking did that 6 days ago
Not everyone can have a theme as amazing as yours Ezio...
@@kagenotatsumaki you're right about that
I will never watch Joker 2. In my mind, this will be the only Joaquin Pheonix Joker film to ever exist.
A heartbreaking movie a true masterpiece. a broken man just need compassion from society.
love and a tap on the back.
and probably need to continue with his medication.
And that broken man will use that compassion to inflict as much damage as possible
Plenty of broken people around. They don't commit multiple murders. Someone mocking you and you shoot them in the head. You need to be institutionalised.
If you don't pass the line of what means to be human, which is killing for the sake of it, you aren't broken. Doesn't matter what amount of missery is being hold, suffering isn't inhuman, having no empathy is.
@@eduardostock9299 Funding was stop for social works.
there is so many people in real life with same medication issues
"If it was me dying on the sidewalk you'd walk right over me" .
U say that but u got Batman on your profile
@@creepywarhammer8598
A change in heart perhaps
I wouldn't
@@creepywarhammer8598 Batman would help save him not walk over him. Cause that's what heroes do.
@@Risingofthephoenix
Heroes can be found in movies , not in real life
Joker. Just the name. The Joker.
Everyone who's read the comics will see the joker as this crazy killer clown. But this joker is THE joker.
Not an embodiment of chaos and death of destruction, but the one discared card of the deck that forces itself into the game. This Joker wanted to make people happy. And was put down for trying. But after Arthur's death and Jokers birth, it's just like he said.
His death makes more sense than life
Funny, a synonym of his name can mean "Jester"
The Jester was a medieval title, it allowed one to be the only one to make fun of the king.
Murray Franklin (Main antagonist) can be seen as the king, and Joker as the Jester.
@@shadysam7161 Murray wasn't the main antagonist it was society.
ok
Ye
8 mln people searching this track make you realize how good the significant of this film is
Endgame is only emotional if you've seen every marvel films, or at least most to understand the mcu, but joker is just emotional regardless if you know or don't know about other previous films
i watched every marvel film, only cried because my two favourite characters got replaced but that was literally it. the rest was boring.
joker actually moved me
i only felt sad coz of thanos, didnt watch most of the marvel films
Thats because joker is realistic, marvel is not.
Mad Character Development
i agree heavily
For the last 30 minutes of the film, I was glued to my seat and couldn’t look away. Even after the final scene and the credits began to roll, I was still mesmerized. I didn’t even look away for a second. I was left to sit with what I just experienced. I wasn’t expecting anything from the movie, but it took me to a place I can never come back from. I absolutely love this movie. I had to see it more than once in the cinema. It’s that good.
yeah same, I was there until the end credits, just in disbelief, my expectations for this movie were average, and I realized I watched a masterpiece.
Only two movies I went to go see twice in the cinemas. Joker and signs. Both movies starred phoenix
"i hope my death makes more cents than my life"
"the worst thing about having a mental illness is that people expect you to act as if you dont have one"
"if it was me dying on the sidewalk you'd wall right over me"
"i use to think my life is a tragedy, no i realize, its a fucking comedy"
"through my whole life, i didnt even know if i existed... but i do, and people are starting to notice"
"i just dont wanna feel so bad anymore..."
-Arthur Fleck
The tragedy in these words say it all. All he wanted was to make people laugh and live a good life but he was treated badly by society, showing how much society doesn’t give a shit over the poor. Arthur went through all of it and now he released his true self: the Joker
I didn't laughed a single minute with my full concious in my entire fuckin life
...
Ye
"Be afraid of the quiet ones they are the ones that actually think"
This song feels like freedom, letting go all the pain you gathered all these years and reborn again.
A dark yet beautiful transmutation.
From now on, going to a public bathroom for peeing will be the most dramatic thing I will do.
😂😂😂😂😂
1983 Joker: Throw him into a vat of chemicals.
2019 Joker: Throw him into society.
@@amadeotedesco4492 nice
That is why most of us can possibly relate
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@Pepe the Frog loved the movie but i can see this quote on the wall of an incel's room lol
1989
My reaction to Joker 2.
Lmao
Loved this movie
I can feel the sadness and then the evil is rising in this music
I am redzemper I think he means the beauty within this music, that beauty being replaced with tragedy and evil undertones as soon as the music intensifies, with Arthur dead and The Joker rising anew.
Don't even compare this masterpiece to marvel just don't. Joker is just perfection
WELL SAID, restores DC image
it was a decent movie, can't be compared to master pieces by marvel coming one after the other.
They are two totally different movies dc and marvel or not the categories are far apart. Joker shouldn't even be put in the same category as the DC movies coming out. Joker is a raw masterpiece. this comment should just not exist.
@@EladB. they not all masterpieces lol some have some weird CGI effects and some storylines are mehh. i think what makes Joker Great is that it makes people feel so many emotions and its something that could easily be real. The marvel movies are dope cause of the consistent storyline thats been going for years but honestly they two different movies.
@@EladB. "decent" this was the best movie in years and blows away any movie Marvel has released.
Best movie I have seen in my life. I love this movie so much.
the most sad and heartbreaking part of this movie are tears in his eyes when he laughs
YES.. TEARS AND LAUGHTER!
AMAZING JOB PAINTING REALITY!!
This song over the speakers in the theater was such a memorable moment.
Joker: "How 'bout another joke, Murray?"
Murray: "Alright let's hear it."
Joker: "You wouldn't get it."
Murray: * visible confusion *
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I admire musicians who create such soundtracks
Marvel’s Cinematic Universe success made DC forget that back in the days of the comics, they were superior. They tried to imitate Marvel to little avail, and this movie is DC going back to it’s old success and showing the world that DC is entirely different to Marvel. DC is dark, psychological and realistic, Marvel is light-hearted, heroic and fun. You can like both, but artistically Joker is better than anything that Endgame could’ve been.
Honestly, I have to agree - now, I enjoy both Marvel & DC - generally I prefer Marvel, but Joker stands above the MCU for me just for how beautifully it's made.
Exactly
The comics of DC tend to carry dark, bleak, and somewhat realistic tones which would then flesh out most characters. This film carries that vibe and shows how some people just snap like Arthur.
i enjoyed endgame to the fullest and still have to agree with this. I will forever prefer DC. Marvel may have a crap tonne of money right now but DC will be back and it will be better
The director hates comics though, and tried to do his own thing. He never cared about DC's legacy, he just wanted to make a good movie that different from others.
00:04 When I accidentaly step on a snail and totally crushed it.
pretty much
When he was in the bathroom, I felt like crying but I didn't.
When the city was burning, I felt like smiling and I did.
SOUNDS LIKE U HELD IT TOGETHER BETTER THAN ME!
i smiled when the city was burning too tbh...
@@shadowboy2818 Why would you smile at something that shouldn't be smiled at?
@@Animelover5555 out of all the fictional places i wanted to see burn, gotham was one of those...mostly because of how terrible the place is....
I smiled with him when the city was burning and just seeing Joker smile man he finally felt free
Oh how they ruined a perfect movie now..
He is dancing with the devil in the pale moon light.
Nice
Wow never realized this is a total nod to that line!
Bruh underrated
Classic
and the devil is himself! this conversation will go too far lol
Joker is a reflection of what damage society can inflict on another person. However, I believe the movie is a reflection of how people feel about society and its cruelty. People tend to forget that when you push someone too far, they may return the pain tenfold. Society creates villains and monsters, callous to the point where you stand as an emotionless statue. This music itself is a reflection of the sorrow buried deep within the darkness and the rubble of despair.
Ledger had control
Phoenix lost control
Ledger lost power
Phoenix gained power
Cringe
thanks Obama Drip
The Joker is never about gaining or losing power lol
Huh? Sorry but try again.
@@tradcathgroyper7411 pry means ledger knew what he was doing and and wanted to gain control of everything to prove a point. Phoenix was just a guy trying to get by but got mixed up in the madness of the world. Ledger got beat by Batman and ended up getting put away. Phoenix became a message and symbol of what Gotham truly is, a town forever lost and blind to its own madness
Más de tres años ya, sin olvidarte ni un solo día, Joker.
Y más de cuatro años, sigo enamorada de ti. Te tengo en casa en la película, en mi mente y mi corazón.
This song describes my mood in this life. "I'm sad, but I smile. That's my life."
Ur not alone joker ur not alone...
@@pleurat0027 I know! Unfortunately my, and our reality is this. And the quote of this awesome film that describes me very much, amazingly is not this one I wrote above... but this one: "All I have, are negative thoughts." Thanks for your answer!
Always someone like you... it hurts ....but it's the truth !! Right now , at this point of my life I would like to point out that I have found my soulmate but in a friendly way , I hope you get what I mean!! We love each other so much and she has helped so many times just like I have helped her , so in life , there are only a couple of things that can make you feel like yourself , the right person and their love , it's the greatest feeling and one day you will all feel it , you can make it , believe in yourself :)
I would like to make everyone laugh and happy, even if they laugh at me, it's fine
Ah instead of morning in misery be stronger and better
I've honestly never had feelings for Joker until after I watched this movie. All he wanted to do was just be a normal person and make people laugh and fit in. This is sad cuz this really does happen to some people in real life.
“ I hope my death makes more sense than my life... ”
- The Joker
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There is no Joker sequal.