the skim coat after removing the popcorn is a good idea; in my experience, a lot of tract houses had popcorn on the ceiling not just because that was what people expected, but it also helps to conceal poor/rushed drywall installation
If you're doing a texture, then all you need to do, by code is one layer with tape and spotting to nails/screws. It is easier and faster to do texture, so it's also more cost effective than a smooth finish.
Incredible work for a DYI, I am a home improvement contractor and would not have done much differently. Great work! Run some BM super hide drywall primer over it then 2 coats of ceiling paint it will be glass!
25 year painter here, one tip I can give is small but, Prime the surfaces between your last skim coat and final spackle check. A fresh coat of primer will make seeing any imperfections a billion times easier as spackle is dead flat and primer has some slight sheen, light reflection is your friend here. Remember, thin last coats of spackle can be "primed" with your paint right before apply your actual 2 coats of paint. Just make sure the spackle spots are clean.
Glad to have those old popcorn ceilings out of the Joshua Tree Cabin, If you have any tips I didn't highlight, leave them here so that viewers can find them! Always wear a respirator and be safe! "Painting Kitchen Cabinets" video coming up next!! 😁
Would highly recommend using a ventilator fan while sanding to vent the airborne dust outside. Opening windows can work if the wind is right but if it’s too windy it’ll blow your plastic around and let dust get underneath. Not windy enough and the dust just doesn’t move. The fans are great for venting paint fumes as well so worth the investment IMO, especially if anyone is living in the house while the work is going on.
This is so helpful. Other videos I've seen, people just started priming/painting after taking popcorn off...which is what I did as well, and the paint would fall off the ceiling once it dried. I'll try this on my next day off!
I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine ruclips.net/user/postUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.
That eye-pro looks great on your forehead. It would look a lot better on your eyes. Other than that, I love watching you work and learning stuff from you.
Plus 3 would have been a good choice for the mud type. Lighter weight and easier sanding. Yes, hook your power sander to a shop vac. And finally a 24 inch skimming blade (with rounded corners) would have made your life a little easier. They make larger ones but for a DIYer 24" is great for skimming.
Llevo haciendo este trabajo por casi 10 años y puedo decir que lo hacemos yo y mi equipo muy similar. este chico menciono que no tenia mucho tiempo haciendolo y se entiende. lo unico que podria agregar es que al momento de pasar el rodillo con masa en el cielo no pegarlo en las paredes ya que no se ve muy profesional y ademas te ahorras el tiempo en que limpias eso, tambien al aplicar la primera capa es mejor mezclar el material de secado rapido 90 minutos con masa regular y te evitas de lijar y en la segunda capa una capa super delgada de masa regular y listo. todo lo demas esta perfecto.
QUESTION @ModernBuilds - how long did this entire process take, how many days, how many hours per day - whats the square footage of the ceilings that were redone? We have a 1000sqft rehab home that we need redo the entire ceiling for. There are two of us, but we need to account for the time this ceiling effort will take....or for that size ceiling, what would we expect to pay to have it done?
Nice job. We’re you able to sand your spot repairs perfectly flush and blended into the second skim coat. I have a very hard time getting the two to blend perfectly. There’s always a small faint line around the edge of the spot repair. It never blends invisibly. You can see it unless you shin a flashlight across it. That’s why we usually prime then do the spot repairs. This way we can sand and feather the edges of the spot repairs to make them invisible. Then the spot repairs need to be spot primed and if you have a lot you just reprime the whole thing. It’s extra work but it’s the only way I can get it perfectly smooth
Well done man. Like perfection. I have done some and have a whole house to do in Florida. I liked the roller idea to apply the spackle. I think this would be the way to go but then do a knock down texture.
Wait, you said do an asbestos test but never said what to do if it’s positive. Did these ceilings have asbestos? My ceiling does. I was quoted at 20k from a contractor, which is a no go, but I’m also not willing to risk cancer. 😅
As a plasterer most people wouldn't do this as the clear up mess would be horrendous and people would find it too hard work above your head skim over it here's my number 🤣
The pop corn removal is not as simple as shown in this video if it is painted as it is hell of a job to remove it by 12 or 18 inch scraper even if you use water spray before scraping.
How likely is this method to work if the surface under the popcorn isn't drywall, but say plaster and lath? ie will the texture still separate, or will it bring down the plaster, too? Thanks for any advice!
"You can totally leave them like this" No, you absolutely cannot!You need to fix all the problems and then seal them before you paint or your paint will start to come off. Ceilings with popcorn texture are not done the same was a smooth ceiling would be done because the popcorn will hide any errors. If you don't skim coat your ceilings your ceiling will look terrible.
Too much work and I went a less messy route... I covered mine with tongue-n-grove. Came out beautifully and I get so many compliments from people who want to do the same now. Not cheap at ~$5.50 sq/ft for pre-primed clear 6"x16' boards, but not super expensive and it will easily add way more value to the house.
My whole house is popcorn ceilings which have been painted over by the previous owner. I'm assuming your ceilings weren't painted with how easy that came off?
It can still scrape off well if it only has one or two coats of paint. After that you just have to do your best to scrape the nubs off and then its generally around three skim coats, alternating directions, to get it smooth.
I have a doublewide and it has partical board cieling with drywall mud texture. I'm trying to use a ceiling sander to knock most of the highs down to reduce need for 3 skims, but man, its a b word. Using a cheap sander and its heavy as hell, you about need to be the hulk to use it. Im so jelous of those who can just scrape if off. Anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you for this video, wonderful work, you make it look so easy. What is your opinion about skimming ceilings on the top of popcorn ceilings please?
It can be done, if your ceiling has been painted, it won't come off as in this video. But rather then skimming like in the video, trowel the mud on, fairly heavy first coat, will take at least 3 coats. It's a big job, even for a pro.
Pro Tip: add glue to your 90 minute mud because it has poor adhesion and if you get it wet with a second coat of mud or primer, it tends to flake off 😮
@@ModernBuilds lol, not to nitpick but you said in the video it was 100 bucks. That's quite a difference from 149. You did a beautiful job on your ceilings btw.
I did that one one project. I took a 12 in trowell to knock off the high stuff then floated a layer of spackle over top. It gave it a semi textured finish not smooth but that was fine with me.
Darn, that is some work. I need to scrape the ceilings in my house and all I can say is don't wanna... thanks for showing how to do it well, but I'm really wondering if I wouldn't find it easier and less dusty (that electric sander really didn't seem to do much for the dust) to just plank on top of the popcorn.
Ours was painted and contained asbestos, so we had to hire professionals to remove it. They still destroyed the sheetrock and all of it had to be covered with new sheetrock. If yours doesnt contain asbestos (and you're not rich enough to pay someone to replace all of the sheetrock) I would highly recommend not bothering with removing it. It's not worth the hassle/money IMO.
You really didnt need to skim coat it after you scraped the popcorn off...it was flat like the gyproc originally. All you needed todo was skim coat the joints in the gyproc.
Poor poor other people with plaster popcorn. This video will make no sense to you…. square a 4’ piece of 2x4 (with jointer or table saw- or circ saw if you have to)- Make a couple handles for it with scrap wood and use that to “knock off” the nubs- you won’t get it smooth, you’re just making the “mountains” smaller. Make some medium thick mud and just fill the rest. It will take A LOT. then skim coat with some lighter stuff and paint. Plaster popcorn WILL NOT COME OFF LIKE THE DRYWALL STUFF. Don’t get discouraged.
To funny. First off I have been removing popcorn for 28 years now. Tried all methods. What these videos fail to mention is how many times the ceiling has been sprayed with paint. Now a days I use my festool planex with 80 grit. Then 150..then skim coat. Sand with 240..Also when you tape the walls of for texture only..use 2 inch tape then buy the big roll of painters plastic and stick it to the tape. If you are going to leave the ceiling smooth no need to tape off the walls. Hope that helps. Anyway you look at it removing it blows. Popcorn should have been outlawed. Lazy sheetrockers. JMO
😂That popcorn was never painted, thats why it worked. If your ceiling is painted, forget it. One POSSIBLE technique is 90%water and 10%vinigar mix. Sometimes thatll work, but it really depends on how many layers of paint are up there.
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Thank you confirming the fact I need to hire someone lol
yo sexy ass I'll come do it for you
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Exactly lol
Lmao!
The first thing I got an estimate on when I bought my house was removing the popcorn ceiling. $3000! I’ll live with the popcorn. 😳
the skim coat after removing the popcorn is a good idea; in my experience, a lot of tract houses had popcorn on the ceiling not just because that was what people expected, but it also helps to conceal poor/rushed drywall installation
If you're doing a texture, then all you need to do, by code is one layer with tape and spotting to nails/screws. It is easier and faster to do texture, so it's also more cost effective than a smooth finish.
Exactly!!! That drywall had a lot of wavy-ness
I keep coming back to this video to try to hype myself up to do this in my whole house. But i swear my arms get sore just from watching 😭
Incredible work for a DYI, I am a home improvement contractor and would not have done much differently. Great work! Run some BM super hide drywall primer over it then 2 coats of ceiling paint it will be glass!
So you can use skim coats and leave it. Does this act as paint or something? I'm green a hell sorry
25 year painter here, one tip I can give is small but, Prime the surfaces between your last skim coat and final spackle check. A fresh coat of primer will make seeing any imperfections a billion times easier as spackle is dead flat and primer has some slight sheen, light reflection is your friend here. Remember, thin last coats of spackle can be "primed" with your paint right before apply your actual 2 coats of paint. Just make sure the spackle spots are clean.
This is THE best video that I've seen for popcorn removal, hands down. Great job!
Glad to have those old popcorn ceilings out of the Joshua Tree Cabin, If you have any tips I didn't highlight, leave them here so that viewers can find them! Always wear a respirator and be safe! "Painting Kitchen Cabinets" video coming up next!! 😁
Appreciate all the content you provide. Keep up the good work.
Keep it up
Impressive man, that is a LOT of work. Part of me wonders if just cutting the ceiling off and laying in a new one would be easier. 😆
Just about but I would want to have to lift all those panels!! 😂
@@ModernBuilds they have a drywall lifter. You line up the panels and crank it up into place. Real back saver. Makes one man jobs nice and easy.
Better yet why not use ceiling tiles over it?
Which would be more cost effective?
DIY vs pro for both options?
Pre 1980 drywall also contained asbestos. You can seal over or have it removed professionally if it contains asbestos
Would highly recommend using a ventilator fan while sanding to vent the airborne dust outside. Opening windows can work if the wind is right but if it’s too windy it’ll blow your plastic around and let dust get underneath. Not windy enough and the dust just doesn’t move. The fans are great for venting paint fumes as well so worth the investment IMO, especially if anyone is living in the house while the work is going on.
So helpful. I tried removing mine (after testing for asbestos) , made a mess and gave up. Now I'm ready to tackle it again.
Awesome!! You got this!
Can you use the round tool on walls? Have a dry wall disaster. 🤔
This is so helpful. Other videos I've seen, people just started priming/painting after taking popcorn off...which is what I did as well, and the paint would fall off the ceiling once it dried. I'll try this on my next day off!
It’s probably your dust and or no primer. The ceiling needs wiped brushed off like he used his broom but I’d towel it off if possible.
We actually just did this on a job last week, it's a process I enjoyed quite a bit, even if it was annoying at times
Makes a BIG difference!
I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine ruclips.net/user/postUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.
What a satisfying video to watch, great job.
That eye-pro looks great on your forehead. It would look a lot better on your eyes. Other than that, I love watching you work and learning stuff from you.
Plus 3 would have been a good choice for the mud type. Lighter weight and easier sanding. Yes, hook your power sander to a shop vac. And finally a 24 inch skimming blade (with rounded corners) would have made your life a little easier. They make larger ones but for a DIYer 24" is great for skimming.
Will future generations “rediscover” popcorn ceilings? How do we warn them
Travel to the future. They must be warned!
It's soo hard waiting for your videos man! Post often and save a life
Llevo haciendo este trabajo por casi 10 años y puedo decir que lo hacemos yo y mi equipo muy similar. este chico menciono que no tenia mucho tiempo haciendolo y se entiende. lo unico que podria agregar es que al momento de pasar el rodillo con masa en el cielo no pegarlo en las paredes ya que no se ve muy profesional y ademas te ahorras el tiempo en que limpias eso, tambien al aplicar la primera capa es mejor mezclar el material de secado rapido 90 minutos con masa regular y te evitas de lijar y en la segunda capa una capa super delgada de masa regular y listo. todo lo demas esta perfecto.
You forgot to mention that you should go the opposite direction when doing the second coat to fill in any holes.
I like the way the goggles protect your forehead.
😂😂😂😂
Thank you so much for video!!! 100% helpful 👍🏻
QUESTION @ModernBuilds - how long did this entire process take, how many days, how many hours per day - whats the square footage of the ceilings that were redone? We have a 1000sqft rehab home that we need redo the entire ceiling for. There are two of us, but we need to account for the time this ceiling effort will take....or for that size ceiling, what would we expect to pay to have it done?
Got that dexter kill room vibe going
Big time! 😂
Nice job. We’re you able to sand your spot repairs perfectly flush and blended into the second skim coat. I have a very hard time getting the two to blend perfectly. There’s always a small faint line around the edge of the spot repair. It never blends invisibly. You can see it unless you shin a flashlight across it. That’s why we usually prime then do the spot repairs. This way we can sand and feather the edges of the spot repairs to make them invisible. Then the spot repairs need to be spot primed and if you have a lot you just reprime the whole thing. It’s extra work but it’s the only way I can get it perfectly smooth
Well done man. Like perfection. I have done some and have a whole house to do in Florida. I liked the roller idea to apply the spackle. I think this would be the way to go but then do a knock down texture.
You probably don’t need to sand if the knock down. I didn’t.
Dude, that’s impressive! You presented like a pro!
And if it tests positive for asbestos, then what?
You call an abatement company and take out a huge loan.
Wait, you said do an asbestos test but never said what to do if it’s positive. Did these ceilings have asbestos? My ceiling does. I was quoted at 20k from a contractor, which is a no go, but I’m also not willing to risk cancer. 😅
Asbestos can stay in place. If you dont mess with it you will not be exposed. Just paint it, or plank over it.
I'd suggest dry walling over the asbestos. You can get a thin drywall.
Very nice job.. Turned out very well there. Looks lot better keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless
dude that is so awesome, you inspire me to do stuff around my own house!
Great video One should no the process. Definitely I will hire someone..
As a plasterer most people wouldn't do this as the clear up mess would be horrendous and people would find it too hard work above your head skim over it here's my number 🤣
The pop corn removal is not as simple as shown in this video if it is painted as it is hell of a job to remove it by 12 or 18 inch scraper even if you use water spray before scraping.
How likely is this method to work if the surface under the popcorn isn't drywall, but say plaster and lath? ie will the texture still separate, or will it bring down the plaster, too? Thanks for any advice!
I need this answered too
Thats a lot of work i will be sure it will be worth it good job mike
"You can totally leave them like this"
No, you absolutely cannot!You need to fix all the problems and then seal them before you paint or your paint will start to come off.
Ceilings with popcorn texture are not done the same was a smooth ceiling would be done because the popcorn will hide any errors. If you don't skim coat your ceilings your ceiling will look terrible.
As someone who has lived with popcorn ceilings their whole life, I, my friend, am very jealous.
They quoted 1800 dollars for this in my whole house. Worth it if you ask me.
Not sure where you live. But where I am, that's about what I would charge for a living room size room.
Is your whole house 400sqft?
What’s your house sqft?!
Im subscribing! You are the Best
I bet the next owner sprays popcorn all over the ceiling. hahaha
Excellent!!!!!! 🦘🤗🪃🙂
I rather spend $200 of material than $3000 for someone else to do it
Momma says, "Popcorn ceilings are the devil."
😂😂😂 just spray them down with some high quality H2O and scrape them clean 😂
@@ModernBuilds 🤣
Too much work and I went a less messy route... I covered mine with tongue-n-grove. Came out beautifully and I get so many compliments from people who want to do the same now. Not cheap at ~$5.50 sq/ft for pre-primed clear 6"x16' boards, but not super expensive and it will easily add way more value to the house.
Fantastic! Thanks
Do you have any plan on painting the ceiling? Would you be able to when adding this sort of flat texture?
I was wondering the same!
My whole house is popcorn ceilings which have been painted over by the previous owner. I'm assuming your ceilings weren't painted with how easy that came off?
It can still scrape off well if it only has one or two coats of paint. After that you just have to do your best to scrape the nubs off and then its generally around three skim coats, alternating directions, to get it smooth.
Thank you!!!
I have a doublewide and it has partical board cieling with drywall mud texture. I'm trying to use a ceiling sander to knock most of the highs down to reduce need for 3 skims, but man, its a b word. Using a cheap sander and its heavy as hell, you about need to be the hulk to use it. Im so jelous of those who can just scrape if off. Anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you for this video, wonderful work, you make it look so easy. What is your opinion about skimming ceilings on the top of popcorn ceilings please?
It can be done, if your ceiling has been painted, it won't come off as in this video. But rather then skimming like in the video, trowel the mud on, fairly heavy first coat, will take at least 3 coats. It's a big job, even for a pro.
As Bob said. I'll add make sure to go one direction for the whole skim coat and switch directions each coat.
The square space ad was as long as the presentation!
How many rooms or square footage was involved with your home? I only have a three bedroom, but this would take me years.
Nice!
Well done Mike!
Any tips on what to apply to the ceiling of a bathroom after removing this popcorn texture?
Same steps, just make sure and paint it so it doesn’t come in contact with water
Cute!
How much does a job like this normal cost? Great video!
$5k at least, but depends on sqft. if it's like 1000 sqft it's going to be in the thousands to scrap and level 5 skimcoat.
You could it just sand that joins and prime and paint also 3 times less work
Pro Tip: add glue to your 90 minute mud because it has poor adhesion and if you get it wet with a second coat of mud or primer, it tends to flake off 😮
what kind of glue?
@@sashaaalolll i just use gorilla glue
You can mix the all-purpose with a 90-minute
Looks great! Popcorn ceilings are the worst.
Good stuff, Mike. Always look forward to your videos!
Which sander did you get from amazon
I loved watching you work! I went to Amazon though and that sander is 179.00, not 100 :(
It’s gone up already!! I got it 149
@@ModernBuilds lol, not to nitpick but you said in the video it was 100 bucks. That's quite a difference from 149. You did a beautiful job on your ceilings btw.
Very nice
Does this work with painted popcorn texture. I do asbestos abatment and the painted ceiling texture is always such a bitch to remove
Did you consider leaving the popcorn on and skim coating over it?
I did that one one project. I took a 12 in trowell to knock off the high stuff then floated a layer of spackle over top. It gave it a semi textured finish not smooth but that was fine with me.
God Idk why people do popcorn ceiling
What are you talking about Mike???
@@noven8380 bro why are you even on this video you’re like 8
Yer but stipple effect Artex in the UK doesn't work by wetting
Darn, that is some work. I need to scrape the ceilings in my house and all I can say is don't wanna... thanks for showing how to do it well, but I'm really wondering if I wouldn't find it easier and less dusty (that electric sander really didn't seem to do much for the dust) to just plank on top of the popcorn.
Will it work if the popcorn ceiling has been painted?
That would work!! I just don’t have and ceiling height to lose 😁
I'd say know the age of your house, a 70's popcorn on plaster and lathe from the 30's is way different process than the one done here.
For the 4 houses in the country where the popcorn hasn’t been painted 20 times!
Where u get 3m plastic 8 feet long?
This is best case scenario...its very difficult to remove once it has been painted 😢
Asbestos overload! I think it is better to have mist spray inside while scraping
What do you do if the popcorn ceiling has been painred
Ours was painted and contained asbestos, so we had to hire professionals to remove it. They still destroyed the sheetrock and all of it had to be covered with new sheetrock. If yours doesnt contain asbestos (and you're not rich enough to pay someone to replace all of the sheetrock) I would highly recommend not bothering with removing it. It's not worth the hassle/money IMO.
@@timhowell8923 it would have been easier to skim coat over the popcorn.
You really didnt need to skim coat it after you scraped the popcorn off...it was flat like the gyproc originally. All you needed todo was skim coat the joints in the gyproc.
Thought the same. The house is not worth more money if flipping but if it is for you then yeah.
Nice Work. Just like a SUPER PRO.
#STAYSAFE
#PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸
Daily reminder that popcorn ceilings are fucking stupid!
Where u get the asbestos kit?
Never thought this would be 3 days of work lol
Where to buy asbestos test kit?
Can't imagine the shoulder and arm pain afterwards hahaha
To emphasize, don't use a timed (90 in his first half) compound as a DIYer. We're slow and need pre-mixed's generous work time.
Drywall stilts? Or too slippery?
So not so much dust comes off....as the dust comes spilling off...
Is that asbestos in it
Poor poor other people with plaster popcorn. This video will make no sense to you….
square a 4’ piece of 2x4 (with jointer or table saw- or circ saw if you have to)- Make a couple handles for it with scrap wood and use that to “knock off” the nubs- you won’t get it smooth, you’re just making the “mountains” smaller.
Make some medium thick mud and just fill the rest. It will take A LOT.
then skim coat with some lighter stuff and paint.
Plaster popcorn WILL NOT COME OFF LIKE THE DRYWALL STUFF.
Don’t get discouraged.
THX PRO
What if it's painted?
Only works with the ceilings never been painted. Try removing popcorn on the ceiling that has multiple coats of semi gloss.
Damn all I can think about is him not fastening that knife to a sanding pole or broom handle to allow him to work from the floor lol.
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What if there’s asbestos
When its been painted it damn near impossible to scrap off….no matter how much you soak it
How can you tell if it's been painted?
1-800-super-pro!!
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I always hate popcorn ceiling
To funny. First off I have been removing popcorn for 28 years now. Tried all methods. What these videos fail to mention is how many times the ceiling has been sprayed with paint. Now a days I use my festool planex with 80 grit. Then 150..then skim coat. Sand with 240..Also when you tape the walls of for texture only..use 2 inch tape then buy the big roll of painters plastic and stick it to the tape. If you are going to leave the ceiling smooth no need to tape off the walls. Hope that helps. Anyway you look at it removing it blows. Popcorn should have been outlawed. Lazy sheetrockers. JMO
😂That popcorn was never painted, thats why it worked. If your ceiling is painted, forget it. One POSSIBLE technique is 90%water and 10%vinigar mix. Sometimes thatll work, but it really depends on how many layers of paint are up there.