Hikaru and Kaoru's arc of extreme codependence to opening up their worlds to others and Tamaki and Kyoya's friendship backstory is one of the aspects of this show will definitely always hit me like it did the first time. It has only been about 2 years since I last saw it and was 14 and now im 16. Of course a lot has changed but maybe i'll revisit it when im in my 20s and figure out if it still hits me as much but one thing that remains is that this show did so so much for me the first time I watched it
They way they talked about Haruhi’s dad was unacceptable. The Japanese version didn’t even do that. I also hated how they had Kyoya be out of character in the beach episode.
@@offbeatkiki The t-slur is also used in the subbed version (in the subtitles themselves--I don't speak Japanese, so I trust what the commenter above said that it's not used in the original language). At least the version I watched on Hulu. It was super upsetting.
@@offbeatkiki You really should! There's a lot of stuff lost in translation. Like the bit where Haruhi says "I'll refer to people as dude and bro" in the Japanese version she decides to use the "ore" pronoun which is a more masculine/neutral version of "I"
Bones always has top tier animation. Even their older work holds up today. These are newer series but their work on Bungo Stray Dogs and Mob Psycho 100 is seriously something else too. A top studio definitely. Up there with KyoAni, Mappa and UFOTable.
That's an interesting pairing, it would feel kinda out of left field in my opinion but I am open to alternative ships for this show considering how dysfunctional Tamaki and Haruhi are.
@@offbeatkiki I like it because he doesn't really treat her like a pet and he's the only one who really made her flustered but poor boy got barely any screen time 😭
That would be interesting to see play out, but I am glad Tamaki and Haruhi got together because it was nice to see these two, who after going through so much individually and together, truly explore what it means to date and to be a couple, figuring out their future and how they would be included in each others’ lives.
As much as I love Ouran High School Host Club, it is what I consider an incomplete show because the anime didn’t manage to adapt the full story from the original manga. What makes this sting more is that the manga continues to develop each member of the host club further and shows them growing and coming into their own, as well as show the culmination of Tamaki and Haruhi’s relationship. Although it is very unlikely, I wouldn't mind Ouran getting a reboot series or a second season to continue adapting these stories and allowing fans who haven't read the manga to continue witnessing each of the characters develop as individuals, their camaraderie as a club/family, and the surprising twists and turns one might not expect from only watching the 26 episodes from the show.
i feel like sometimes in the show they cast the characters aside to throw in fanservice, tension, or conflict because kyoya’s actual character never would have done that in episode 8… and TAMAKI WOULDNT HAVE SAID THE T SLUR💀
yea they were likely just moments intended to parody other anime but it does kinda ruin the integrity of the characters if you are watching it without the knowledge that it's a pastiche/satire... those moments just weren't really necessary however you look at it
I think the whole 'T' word issue was just just a mistake by ignorant dubbers. "Transvestite" was too long but there's not a better word for it in English.
I also recently rewatched OHSHC out of Nostalgia. As a lesbian i remember it being one of the first puzzle pieces for me to understand that I’m gay. Like it isn’t as progressive and fails to do the bare minimum but when I was 11 or 12 it reflected my perception of gender and sexuality and made me happy to see Haruhi not only defy gender norms but have a platonic friendship with the others. A lot of media I consumed regarding romance was so toxic and heteronormative so it was kind of the first self insert storyline I did and young me didn’t realize that it’s not straight to want to dress up as a boy just to kiss a girl- I’m cisgender so obv it spoke to other aspects of my identity and sadly didn’t give me a healthy wlw depiction but I’m still happy it exists. The only thing I was really disappointed in was that in the manga (I didn’t read it back then only recently) Haruhi is dressed only femininely and grows her hair out after they are done with the host club. I know that non-binary ppl can dress however is suitable for them but I thought it was a bummer that after all this time Haruhi goes back to how she was before. Just her saying a small thing about her gender again (perhaps if her perception changed idk) or develop a style outside of gender expectations would’ve been kinda nice to see as it would show that certain identities aren’t phases.
Haruhi does say that she doesn’t care if someone thinks she is either a boy or a girl, but she does define herself as a girl. Outside of host club activities, she is mostly wearing more feminine attire, so it’s not too much of a stretch to me that she would continue to do so after graduation as well as grow out her hair. Granted, I do think the short haircut is more her style though. I can totally see Haruhi written/portrayed as non-binary nowadays and if Ouran was made in today’s age, it could’ve lead to a lot of potentially interesting stories about the host club learning different gender identities.
at the end of the manga when it shows a lot of flash-forward stuff with the characters in the future, haruhi is actually shown with a variety of hair lengths that don't correlate to one instance of growing it out, so it's actually more likely that she just alternates hairstyles. growing it out and then cutting it short and then growing it out again and then cutting it short again, etc, which imo is pretty realistic for a lot of people who don't really care about gender presentation. considering they even showed that sort of variety over time at all makes me reluctant to file haruhi away into the "masc female character inexplicably girly-ified after the plot" box like other similar characters
Hello. I am a 32 year old trans woman in the year 2022 who openly lists Ouran Highschool Host Club as my #2 all time favorite, right behind Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. Yeah there are troublesome bits in it but frankly they have never bothered me. At all. Because I know they don’t come from a place of hate but instead a less sophisticated time and less accurate period of localization. Especially with words that just don’t have a proper English translation that can be taken to be good or bad. It’s NOT good and shouldn’t be forgiven per se, but I’m not gonna let it ruin my enjoyment of the series otherwise, especially considering it was not intended.
i first watched Ouran 11 years ago and have since watched it 10+ times since. for me it never lost its magic, and i can cognitively see the flaws, but in my heart it's perfect, if that makes sense. so Ouran might be a show for some that they realize is different than they remember, but for me it'll always be something important. i can logically say "well this show is technically better" but in my heart Ouran will always be number 1
They are a lot of things lost in the anime about Haruhi and tamaki, specially because the romance starts when the anime ends. In general they make each other better and being together make them grown. Tamaki is a beautiful hopeless romantic that is weird but a incredible good person, no matter how bad people treat him he always wants happiness for everyone, haruhi, who actually loves nice people, can see behind his weird and snobby superficial self and find the most caring and loving human being they can imagine. Haruhi learns that even people they think they hate can be incredible good people. Tamaki is the one who grows the most, he learns what really means to be in love, he learns how to love someone as independent as haruhi, he let them go to study.
I truly think the reason this show is my #2 favorite of all time is even the things they discussed that are definitely problematic was NEVER out of place of hate. The show was always about connection, found family, and love IMO. 💗🍒🌸
CREDITED SONGS: psychosis - paper hosts (1:33) cornelius - star fruits surf rider (15:29) caroline polachek - breathless (21:24) shinobisyntax - lofi ohshc theme (38:50) Lemme know if I missed anything! These are absolute bangers that I was unfamiliar with.
I was just graduated when I saw OHSHC. Harhuhi was one of the first protagonists I really empathized with, because of how she treated the boys. She acknowledged they were beautiful and such, but that alone wasn't what attracted her to them. She liked them for who they were, and got closer to them over time. I also empathized with Tamaki's confusion about his feelings. Yes he was an idiot and weirdly possessive, but confusion about platonic, paternal, and erogenous love is something I still struggle with. Kyouya's warning is also a scene I look back on fondly, beleive it or not. I'm not conventionally attractive, and I look down on most female-coded behavior, so I'd never been hit on. Yes, I made it through K-12 with no romantic experience. It had never occurred to me that someone might try to take advantage of me, just because I was a girl. Yeah, it's a little cringey, but honestly, that lesson stuck, and saved my beef a few times as I went to college and was exposed to actually nasty people for the first time. Maybe it's a bad thing, but this was one of the shows that allowed me to better understand how relationships work for different people. It certainly clarified the difference between Aesthetic and Sexual attraction for me. I like to revisit the show from time to time to think over those experiences and revelations, and I think everyone should watch it at least once.
i agree that a lot of stuff with their dynamic is weird, but i actually still love Haruhi and Tamaki together, if you take away all the more comedic elements, their personalities really compliment each other and they go really well together
I first found the show in middle school and it basically is still one of my comfort shows to this day 😅 it brings back so many memories to the point where if I hear the outro I will burst into tears like tamaki does every 5 minutes.
I don’t think anyone talks about this but I’ve always found it a little hard to sympathize with Kyoya’s position because of Fuyumi. I mean, I’m not in any way saying that Kyoya’s position and the way he’s treated his okay, but like, in the show (and a lot of the time in real life) most women, no matter what their place in the family is, have less of a chance than Kyoya does at succession their parents company, simply because their women. Tamaki’s speech to Kyoya in episode 24 not only acknowledges that the situation was rigged against him from the start for simply being the 3rd son, (something he had no control over and is being unfairly punished for) but implies that if he worked hard enough he could achieve it. That’s not the same energy we get when it comes to how women are treated, even when it’s essentially the same situation. Both Kyoya and Fuyumi are at an unfair disadvantage for something they never had a say in, but it’s only acknowledged in the show it’s Kyoya. The possibility of Fuyumi being a successor was never even brought up, and I guess we’re supposed to think that she’s happy in her position, even when Kyoya’s whole backstory is based off of the fact that he is being treated unfairly, and has suffered his whole life because of that.
I literally rewatch this show every year! I love it so much and it never gets old to me. I think I’m one of the few who likes and is fascinated by Haruhi and Tamaki’s relationship. While cute in the anime, the manga does a way better job developing their relationship and shows us why they were just always a good fit for each other.
The treatment of Haruhi's dad is impossible to ignore for me. You said the way he's treated may be a product of transmisogyny. It's DEFINITELY a product of transmisogyny. I'm personally kind of sick of people praising this show for how it deals with gender. Sure, it did some cool stuff with Haruhi's character, but I can't look past the transphobia (and homo/lesbophobia).
yeah, ppl say they watched it as a teen so didnt know any better but i watched it as an adult and was uncomfortable when they showed that stuff with the dad. suddenly felt as uncomfortable as i do with family guys brand of "humor."
Yeah, as a tween with burgeoning gender identity questions, I was always *super* uncomfortable with the way that they treated Ranka. I loved that the show gave us a gnc protag, but the fact that they didn't extend the same treatment to *Every* gnc character really rubbed me the wrong way. Still does.
It's more so Japanese views on gender really? Okama is still a word used today, but it doesn't really have a good translation into English. Okamas are sadly still used as the butt of a joke, even in every day media. And gay marriage only became legal recently in Japan. I'd honestly love to see a remake, I think the creator had some interesting things to say about gender but in order to appeal to a Japanese audience added in recognisable tropes?
I had to drop the show after Honey used the t-slur, I just couldn’t get that scene out of my head :/ I know it was a different time and Japan was a conservative but idk
To be entirely fair about the ending of the show (not the manga) no one actually gets together in the end. In fact the “polite argument” between the two fathers is meant to establish that. It’s to get you to read the manga of course, but fuck it, it worked on me lol.
Tbh I always thought that tamaki being oblivious to his feelings for haruhi and the whole daddy thing was first making fun of how weird some anime romances are and then on maybe a deeper level the fact he always entertains people he has no real feelings for so when he met someone he has actual romantic feelings for he just couldn’t understand them and went to the only love he’s ever really felt and that he shows the other club members which is familial. Obviously I could be wayyy off base and the author was just like lmao daddy jokes but idk it’s always kinda made sense to me w how much of an oblivious idiot he is most of the time.
You're not as far off base as you think. One of Tamaki's dreams is having both him, his parents, and his grandmother together sitting at a kotatsu because to him it symbolizes a strong healthy family connection. He views the host club as a found family and while that is very sweet and it shows how much he cares for them, it is just another highlight of his immature nature that keeps him oblivious from what he truly feels for Haruhi. Hikaru even calls Tamaki out for this, trying to get him to understand that the bond and friendship the club share will not be broken if Tamaki decided to pursue a romantic relationship with Haruhi.
I'm so glad this project finally got completed! I never got a chance to watch this show, I was probs too young to be aware of it. But I really appreciate you going in deep in the character relationships, interactions, and really just what the show meant to you. Great stuff as always!
this series genuinely means so much to me and its one of my favourite anime series. Not because of how it displays gender or any such "progressive" ideas because yeah, they did good stuff with Haruhi, but there was also extreme transphobia with Ranka and the lesbophobia in those two episodes.....yeah i love it because this show has ALWAYS made me _feel._ Haruhi's stuff with her mom and her hyper independence throughout the series plus the entire final act of the show, Hikaru and Kaoru's growth and the difference between their personal insights (eg: the episode where Hikaru and Haruhi go on a date and Kaoru explains why he created that situation plus Hikaru crying at the end of the ep after he apologises to Haruhi), Tamaki's backstory and how/why he created the host club and how his idea of this club basically saved the host club members and Kyoya's backstory and his relationship with Tamaki (that was the only thing in this show and one of the only in all of anime and manga that has made me ugly cry and sob while watching it). Also as a side note, i like Tamaki and Haruhi well enough but i'll always stand by the fact that Haruhi/Hikaru and Tamaki/Kyoya should have been endgame without a doubt and those ships made the most sense to me throughout the series.
It could just be me, but I didn't get the impression that he ACTUALLY has a problem with queer people, he just doesn't want Haruhi to be gay because he wants her all to himself (which is still an issue on its own, just not the same one). I honestly don't think he would have expressed homophobic views to the Zuka Club girls if he didn't see them as a "threat" or competition for Haruhi's attention and affection. When he thought Haruhi might have been a gay boy he didn't express any distaste or opposition. It was only once he recognized Haruhi as a girl (and allowed himself to gradually acknowledge attraction to her) that he started wanting to separate "girl Haruhi" from homosexuality, out of possessiveness, rather than disdain for gay people. That's how I took it anyway, myself being gay and non-binary (afab).
I found this show in the first half of my freshman year in 2017 and only made it to episode 10 before things got in the way and I never finished it. Fast forward to the beginning of my senior year in 2020 and I revisited it since I saw it while scrolling and looking for shows to watch. I finally finished it and it was kind of bittersweet since the first time I watched it I was in a completely different point in my life compared to now. Idk exactly how to explain it, but I feel like this show connects me to a different point in my life where things were simpler and I wasn’t dealing with things such as a global pandemic or approaching adulthood.
i recently watched ouran for the first time , and i loved it. i loved the humor and i thought the characters friendships were great. but some episodes i was like “how the fuck was this acceptable ?” (ex. the beach episode and how characters referred to haruhis dad in the dub) the show has its problematic elements and is DEFINITELY a product of its time , but i enjoyed it overall.
An old friend recommended this anime to me back in 2014 when I was about 18 years old. This anime has a close place in my heart because that friend is no longer here in this world, she's in Ouranos. It made me wonder if she wanted acceptance, had she been part of a community that uplifts her like they do in the host club, would she still be here? This video brought back so many wonderful memories, thank you for sharing your perspective.
Yeah other ships are valid, I think I actually liked Haruhi and Hikaru the most. Since this show is essentially making fun of anime tropes, the writing of Tamaki and Haruhi's relationship suffered and they weren't the best pairing.
Ouran (as you may be able to tell) is very close to my heart. It was the first anime I ever watched all the way through, and one of a handful of shows that an old friend introduced me to to get me into anime back when I was twelve. I recognize it has its flaws, but I do still love it. The first time that I stepped into music room three, I was unsure. But I circled back a few months later and gave the host club a second chance, and they didn't disappoint. Ouran is beautiful, with complex characters, but it's also not afraid to get more than a little silly. I'm eighteen now, and even though I think I've passed my peak Ouran obsession (like making it my username on every platform) there are a lot of memories I can look back on, like cheering for Haruhi the first time I saw that climactic scene in episode 26, or anxiously reciting the hosts names to distract my brain on a school trip. I know Ouran has its faults, but it's dear to me, and I'll forever be a Kyoya fan first and a person second :)
I definitely understand where you're coming from with how it's weird Tamaki talks about Haruhi as his daughter and is possessive (due to that I think) But I believe it comes from him lacking family dynamic growing up and the club became his family and he didn't have any examples of true romantic relationships - it was all just the show that he learned and put on for the club. He didn't understand his feelings for her were romantic and the want to protect, care, and love her came out as possessive because it was easier to understand caring for her like a daughter Definitely doesn't justify it, but I think explains it
i think tamaki's problamatic lines comes from the fear of losing haruhi. he is ignorant to how those words come by to others. I'm not trying to defend him but if we know his character, can see that his words doesn't mean anything.
This video was even better than I expected it to be Kiki. From your cosplay at the beginning to your monologue at the end every part of it had something that resonated with me, made me smile, and kept me intrigued. I had only ever seen a few episodes of Ouran myself, but this was a great to learn more about the series. All in all, this was a great video and your hard work shines through in every part. I’ll always look forward to what you put out in the future 💜
As someone who doesn't watch too much anime, and who hasn't even heard of this series outside of you... color me intrigued. And it's on Tubi for free, so I have no reason not to take a look at it.
I thought the scene from the beach episode was Kyoya trying to win the competition the boys had trying to find something Haruhi fears, and the comedy aspect was Haruhi mistaking Kyoya's motivations to be trying to teach her about her limits, and then 5 minutes later Tamaki who was actually trying to tell her about there limits accidentally finds out Haruhi's fear of lightning and thunder
Something that I despise, as a lesbian, is the Lobelia girls and their academy. I can't watch the episode without feeling stereotyped. I wont go into a rant on how feminisim and radical feminism are very different, with one being good and something everyone should believe in, well the other being very bad. Throughout the show, the Lobelia girls are presented as radical feminists who believe women are above men and blah blah blah. As a child I had this mindset because I liked girls and that was the mindset all these girls in media were shown to have. As a teenager (16) I know realize how harmful that stereotype is. I will say though, it's good that lesbians in exist in media, but not those harmful stereotypes. If the term TERF existed back then, they would 100% be those. Side note though, I do think what they did well was make the the Lobelia girls diverse in appearance. They are't these heavily masculine women, they're just women. Very sexist women, but not all butch women which is something.
Edit: lol it actually came back on Netflix the other day, what are the odds? Haha It really sucks that Netflix doesn't have it anymore, I really wanted to rewatch it When I was a sophomore in highschool my friend introduced this show to me, up until that point I had only seens anime that was more fighting focused, like Naruto, One Piece, and Shaman King, but some how I absolutely fell in love with this show and it's 1 of only 3 non fighting focused animes I love Super great video!
I think trying to define something as timeless or not is a bit hard to do but ig how it affects you might be one way of looking at it but I think the “timeless-ness” of a show kinda goes with who it’s audience is I think for the most part if you not necessarily ignore but just keep in your mind when it was made and the word choices aren’t good at times most youth/teens or it’s target audience would still feel somewhat the same from when it was shown to anytime in the future that’s just my opinion
I remember watching this weekly back in 2006 waiting on fansubs and discussing it on fan forums. I've probably rewatched this anime more times than any other series. It's always a recommendation I make to anyone old or new to anime. Watched it with many different ex partners too. Never found anyone to dislike this masterpiece (imo)
First I would like to say I loved the video..I havent finished it yet because I have to go somewhere but I will be back. But from what I have seen so far I think it beautifully edited and just gives me so much nostalgic feeling. Oh before I go... Im not sure how well known this info is but there is a move that is in live action.....Do with that info however you want.
I just rewatched the series, and sure the are some moments that are inappropriate (?) but this anime is from 2006, thing were really different back then.
I feel like part of why Haruhis dad may seem like is being played off as a joke is because he has the same energy as Tamaki. With Tamaki being a cis male it's just a character trait, but that trait applied to a gender non-conforming character is seen as mocking or making a joke of the character Personally I just saw Haruhis dad as an energetic, spontaneous, and impulsive character just like Tamaki. But I understand how it may read differently due to the characters gender (From a NB person)
Personally I wished that Hikaru and Haurni could of got together it would be so interesting I feel like Hikaru might have trauma or depression and I feel like Haurni helps him in that
I find it so funny how the previous video i saw on ohshc had the person saying they loved the Nekozawa episodes. Personally I'm just more a fan of episodes that really focus on the members of the host club.
I know the writers were originally going to have her end up w/ Mori, and they pushed Tamaki as the main love interest, but I really prefer Hikaru and/or Kaoru
i downloaded the sub of this show ages ago, and just use that if i want something for background noise. this is the first time i've ever heard the dub voices, it's surreal! also the sub never had any slurs against haruhi's dad, learning about the 't' slur being thrown around in the dub was also surreal. it seems kinda unnecessary to go out of your way to change the dialogue to where it would incorporate that, definitely transphobic since it most likely came from cis people. that being said the term itself doesn't bother me a whole lot, i've come across a fair handful of trans folks who've reclaimed it for themselves, and use it casually. same with a handful of gay people reclaiming the 'f' slur.
i'm trans and bisexual and don't really think it's acceptable to have cishet characters use the T or F slur in media regardless of people reclaiming it - i agree it's very weird to add that in for the english dub, i want to check out the subbed version now as i've always seen the english dub with this specific show even though i typically am team subs
@@offbeatkiki yeah, that's fair. there is more of a kneejerk with cishets doing it since it's always derogative, i'm so detached from fiction that i can't take that crap seriously, but that doesn't mean others aren't allowed to be upset. real people did make the decision to add that in after all, so it does come from prejudice. you totally should! i wouldn't say it sounds better, but it's like night and day.
While I do get where you're coming from, there are points you bring I very much disagree a lot 1. I think the ending was actually better than a lot of open ending series out there. It was very clear Tama and Haruhi will end up together, but we don't need to see it to know. Unlike the boring typical shoujo manga. Life is not something prefect, some things just happen in their own and I love it, actually. It gives us freedom for a change. And take it into consideration that the series isn't done while the anime series was airing, so they did what they could with what they had at the time. 2. Tama and Haruhi Relationship and dynamic is actually great unlike so many bad shoujo manga and anime, boring/annoying girls in this genre is still the same to this day. they either too prefect or always need to be rescue from something. and Haruhi is not that! she is the one that will decide in this relationship, and if she does not want something, Tamaki will listen to her. it actually very healthy relationship unlike so many other series. and it is a relationship that make sense, like the epi that Tama acting just like her dad and she was happy and laugh at him. a lot of Relationship build like this, it reminds you of home in some way. and no I didn't care about the Beach episode. if you actually read some shoujo manga you would have seen how toxic most of the main couple are in those stories. and there is a LOT.
Just got finish binging this on Netflix, it was a blast! Made me want to check out the manga witch had a more conclusive ending than the anime great retrospective Kiki💜
Tamakis mom never “sold him”, Tamaki himself chose to leave France for Japan because his grandmother promised to take care of his mom (who was sick at the time and they couldn’t afford the medical care) as long as he agreed to her terms of coming to be the “heir” of the Suoh company and cutting off everybody and everything from his childhood in France. I think cause I read the manga, but even though anime Tamaki is so… annoying to put it bluntly (ESPECIALLY the dub version Vic Mignona is just so… 🤢) I have a soft spot for him cause of his background and the sadness he experience and how despite all that, he still forms bonds in Japan and goes out of his way to try and make everyone happy. Y’all the manga is just superior, I love the anime trust me, it’s the first real anime I ever watched, but I remember reading the manga after watching the show and I was genuinely so sad like “WHAT??? There’s so much mooooooore” that’s why I wish there was an anime remake that followed the manga more closely, i think it would have a love of potential (Side note, I also like the live action and wish more people watched it too😔, i don’t know… i think it’s a good remake and adds something to it that gives you a hint of what a full manga adapted remake could be)
Had to mute the AMV at 21:26 due to copyright. Sorry about that, but it's still up on its own here - ruclips.net/video/MgAcSRpes6E/видео.html
for me ouran was always a found family story first, not a romance
i like that!
Hikaru and Kaoru's arc of extreme codependence to opening up their worlds to others and Tamaki and Kyoya's friendship backstory is one of the aspects of this show will definitely always hit me like it did the first time. It has only been about 2 years since I last saw it and was 14 and now im 16. Of course a lot has changed but maybe i'll revisit it when im in my 20s and figure out if it still hits me as much but one thing that remains is that this show did so so much for me the first time I watched it
They way they talked about Haruhi’s dad was unacceptable. The Japanese version didn’t even do that. I also hated how they had Kyoya be out of character in the beach episode.
Now I wanna go back and watch the subbed episodes with Haruhi's dad for comparison. Kyoya acting like that was bizarre and uncomfortable.
Funimation had some pretty problematic dubs. I remember them dropping the "F" slur multiple times on the Nerima Daikon Brother's dub.
@@offbeatkiki The t-slur is also used in the subbed version (in the subtitles themselves--I don't speak Japanese, so I trust what the commenter above said that it's not used in the original language). At least the version I watched on Hulu. It was super upsetting.
@@offbeatkiki You really should! There's a lot of stuff lost in translation. Like the bit where Haruhi says "I'll refer to people as dude and bro" in the Japanese version she decides to use the "ore" pronoun which is a more masculine/neutral version of "I"
i remember the beach episode Koyoya isn't like that😔
In terms of the animation, THE LINEWORK IS SCARILY AMAZING FOR HOW OLD IT IS!!
I agree, it's gorgeous!
Bones always has top tier animation. Even their older work holds up today. These are newer series but their work on Bungo Stray Dogs and Mob Psycho 100 is seriously something else too. A top studio definitely. Up there with KyoAni, Mappa and UFOTable.
Fun fact: Haruhi wasn't meant to end up with Tamaki in the end, the author wanted to pair her up with Mori but fans liked Tamaki more at the time.
That's an interesting pairing, it would feel kinda out of left field in my opinion but I am open to alternative ships for this show considering how dysfunctional Tamaki and Haruhi are.
@@offbeatkiki I like it because he doesn't really treat her like a pet and he's the only one who really made her flustered but poor boy got barely any screen time 😭
That would be interesting to see play out, but I am glad Tamaki and Haruhi got together because it was nice to see these two, who after going through so much individually and together, truly explore what it means to date and to be a couple, figuring out their future and how they would be included in each others’ lives.
This was the 2nd anime I showed my mom and she thought Mori and Haurhi would of been the best couple
I mean, it's not unusual for a harem anime to leave all possible matches viable until fans come down for one specific pairing.
As much as I love Ouran High School Host Club, it is what I consider an incomplete show because the anime didn’t manage to adapt the full story from the original manga. What makes this sting more is that the manga continues to develop each member of the host club further and shows them growing and coming into their own, as well as show the culmination of Tamaki and Haruhi’s relationship. Although it is very unlikely, I wouldn't mind Ouran getting a reboot series or a second season to continue adapting these stories and allowing fans who haven't read the manga to continue witnessing each of the characters develop as individuals, their camaraderie as a club/family, and the surprising twists and turns one might not expect from only watching the 26 episodes from the show.
It's unfortunate that they cut it off where they did. I would love to see a continuation of the series. The art style was very beautiful.
A continuation or reboot that adapts the unadapted chapters would be neat. I’ve heard some pretty neat stuff happens in some of the later chapters.
i feel like sometimes in the show they cast the characters aside to throw in fanservice, tension, or conflict because kyoya’s actual character never would have done that in episode 8… and TAMAKI WOULDNT HAVE SAID THE T SLUR💀
I refuse to believe Tamaki would use that term .ITS SO OUT OF CHARACTER
yea they were likely just moments intended to parody other anime but it does kinda ruin the integrity of the characters if you are watching it without the knowledge that it's a pastiche/satire... those moments just weren't really necessary however you look at it
I think the whole 'T' word issue was just just a mistake by ignorant dubbers. "Transvestite" was too long but there's not a better word for it in English.
@@offbeatkiki exactly! thats why i always refer newcomers to the manga 💀
@@marenjones6665 they could’ve used “drag queen”
I also recently rewatched OHSHC out of Nostalgia. As a lesbian i remember it being one of the first puzzle pieces for me to understand that I’m gay. Like it isn’t as progressive and fails to do the bare minimum but when I was 11 or 12 it reflected my perception of gender and sexuality and made me happy to see Haruhi not only defy gender norms but have a platonic friendship with the others. A lot of media I consumed regarding romance was so toxic and heteronormative so it was kind of the first self insert storyline I did and young me didn’t realize that it’s not straight to want to dress up as a boy just to kiss a girl-
I’m cisgender so obv it spoke to other aspects of my identity and sadly didn’t give me a healthy wlw depiction but I’m still happy it exists.
The only thing I was really disappointed in was that in the manga (I didn’t read it back then only recently) Haruhi is dressed only femininely and grows her hair out after they are done with the host club. I know that non-binary ppl can dress however is suitable for them but I thought it was a bummer that after all this time Haruhi goes back to how she was before. Just her saying a small thing about her gender again (perhaps if her perception changed idk) or develop a style outside of gender expectations would’ve been kinda nice to see as it would show that certain identities aren’t phases.
Haruhi does say that she doesn’t care if someone thinks she is either a boy or a girl, but she does define herself as a girl. Outside of host club activities, she is mostly wearing more feminine attire, so it’s not too much of a stretch to me that she would continue to do so after graduation as well as grow out her hair. Granted, I do think the short haircut is more her style though. I can totally see Haruhi written/portrayed as non-binary nowadays and if Ouran was made in today’s age, it could’ve lead to a lot of potentially interesting stories about the host club learning different gender identities.
@@theassortedhobbyist I'd love to see one that follows the story of the manga, changing the major issues.
I mean, she only cut her hair because of an accident the first time. I think she just likes long hair.
at the end of the manga when it shows a lot of flash-forward stuff with the characters in the future, haruhi is actually shown with a variety of hair lengths that don't correlate to one instance of growing it out, so it's actually more likely that she just alternates hairstyles. growing it out and then cutting it short and then growing it out again and then cutting it short again, etc, which imo is pretty realistic for a lot of people who don't really care about gender presentation. considering they even showed that sort of variety over time at all makes me reluctant to file haruhi away into the "masc female character inexplicably girly-ified after the plot" box like other similar characters
Hello. I am a 32 year old trans woman in the year 2022 who openly lists Ouran Highschool Host Club as my #2 all time favorite, right behind Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. Yeah there are troublesome bits in it but frankly they have never bothered me. At all. Because I know they don’t come from a place of hate but instead a less sophisticated time and less accurate period of localization. Especially with words that just don’t have a proper English translation that can be taken to be good or bad. It’s NOT good and shouldn’t be forgiven per se, but I’m not gonna let it ruin my enjoyment of the series otherwise, especially considering it was not intended.
i first watched Ouran 11 years ago and have since watched it 10+ times since. for me it never lost its magic, and i can cognitively see the flaws, but in my heart it's perfect, if that makes sense. so Ouran might be a show for some that they realize is different than they remember, but for me it'll always be something important. i can logically say "well this show is technically better" but in my heart Ouran will always be number 1
Such a good retrospective, might actually check this show out
You should. It is something.
Go for it!
You'll laugh your ass off, it's so great
this and fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood are both great animes. but fmab is something super special that i think you’d like
YES
Ouran is such a classic that really helped get more people into watching anime as a whole. Great video Kiki
Totally! It was one of the first series I got into and is even funnier to me as a pastiche of anime now that I've seen many more.
This show is definitely a cult classic. There's a reason for it. It may be a product of its time but it is a step in the right direction.
totally! foundational for series that would follow in its footsteps
"laughably bad dubs" don't get me started on the mess that was magical do re mi
Plsss
i thought it was decent for a 4kids dub lol
They are a lot of things lost in the anime about Haruhi and tamaki, specially because the romance starts when the anime ends. In general they make each other better and being together make them grown. Tamaki is a beautiful hopeless romantic that is weird but a incredible good person, no matter how bad people treat him he always wants happiness for everyone, haruhi, who actually loves nice people, can see behind his weird and snobby superficial self and find the most caring and loving human being they can imagine. Haruhi learns that even people they think they hate can be incredible good people. Tamaki is the one who grows the most, he learns what really means to be in love, he learns how to love someone as independent as haruhi, he let them go to study.
I truly think the reason this show is my #2 favorite of all time is even the things they discussed that are definitely problematic was NEVER out of place of hate. The show was always about connection, found family, and love IMO. 💗🍒🌸
CREDITED SONGS:
psychosis - paper hosts (1:33)
cornelius - star fruits surf rider (15:29)
caroline polachek - breathless (21:24)
shinobisyntax - lofi ohshc theme (38:50)
Lemme know if I missed anything! These are absolute bangers that I was unfamiliar with.
one of my main motivations for doing the AMVs is to show people new music. i'm glad you liked the songs!!
The trilogy is complete. 💰💰💰
If you know, you know.
Do you remember As told by Ginger
You don’t remember Danny Phantom
I didn’t remember...well you know
Oh shit 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
>:)
I was just graduated when I saw OHSHC. Harhuhi was one of the first protagonists I really empathized with, because of how she treated the boys. She acknowledged they were beautiful and such, but that alone wasn't what attracted her to them. She liked them for who they were, and got closer to them over time. I also empathized with Tamaki's confusion about his feelings. Yes he was an idiot and weirdly possessive, but confusion about platonic, paternal, and erogenous love is something I still struggle with. Kyouya's warning is also a scene I look back on fondly, beleive it or not. I'm not conventionally attractive, and I look down on most female-coded behavior, so I'd never been hit on. Yes, I made it through K-12 with no romantic experience. It had never occurred to me that someone might try to take advantage of me, just because I was a girl. Yeah, it's a little cringey, but honestly, that lesson stuck, and saved my beef a few times as I went to college and was exposed to actually nasty people for the first time.
Maybe it's a bad thing, but this was one of the shows that allowed me to better understand how relationships work for different people. It certainly clarified the difference between Aesthetic and Sexual attraction for me. I like to revisit the show from time to time to think over those experiences and revelations, and I think everyone should watch it at least once.
Pack it up RUclipsrs, this is the definitive ouran review. ya'll better like and share this art.
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Thank you so much!
i agree that a lot of stuff with their dynamic is weird, but i actually still love Haruhi and Tamaki together, if you take away all the more comedic elements, their personalities really compliment each other and they go really well together
I first found the show in middle school and it basically is still one of my comfort shows to this day 😅 it brings back so many memories to the point where if I hear the outro I will burst into tears like tamaki does every 5 minutes.
Oh wow. Nobody's said it. I-I get to say it. Oh boy.
KISS KISS-
f a l l i n l o v e
@@offbeatkiki *epic guitar solo*
MAYBE YOUR THE ONE
I don’t think anyone talks about this but I’ve always found it a little hard to sympathize with Kyoya’s position because of Fuyumi. I mean, I’m not in any way saying that Kyoya’s position and the way he’s treated his okay, but like, in the show (and a lot of the time in real life) most women, no matter what their place in the family is, have less of a chance than Kyoya does at succession their parents company, simply because their women. Tamaki’s speech to Kyoya in episode 24 not only acknowledges that the situation was rigged against him from the start for simply being the 3rd son, (something he had no control over and is being unfairly punished for) but implies that if he worked hard enough he could achieve it. That’s not the same energy we get when it comes to how women are treated, even when it’s essentially the same situation. Both Kyoya and Fuyumi are at an unfair disadvantage for something they never had a say in, but it’s only acknowledged in the show it’s Kyoya. The possibility of Fuyumi being a successor was never even brought up, and I guess we’re supposed to think that she’s happy in her position, even when Kyoya’s whole backstory is based off of the fact that he is being treated unfairly, and has suffered his whole life because of that.
Awesome video! I always enjoy your reviews as they are so creative and thoughtful. Can't wait to see what you make next!
Thank you for being here! More cartoon retros and movie reviews to come this summer!
I literally rewatch this show every year! I love it so much and it never gets old to me.
I think I’m one of the few who likes and is fascinated by Haruhi and Tamaki’s relationship. While cute in the anime, the manga does a way better job developing their relationship and shows us why they were just always a good fit for each other.
The treatment of Haruhi's dad is impossible to ignore for me. You said the way he's treated may be a product of transmisogyny. It's DEFINITELY a product of transmisogyny. I'm personally kind of sick of people praising this show for how it deals with gender. Sure, it did some cool stuff with Haruhi's character, but I can't look past the transphobia (and homo/lesbophobia).
yeah, ppl say they watched it as a teen so didnt know any better but i watched it as an adult and was uncomfortable when they showed that stuff with the dad. suddenly felt as uncomfortable as i do with family guys brand of "humor."
Ye, it's very contradictory that Haruhi is to be protected at all costs and Ranka is the butt of jokes.
Yeah, as a tween with burgeoning gender identity questions, I was always *super* uncomfortable with the way that they treated Ranka. I loved that the show gave us a gnc protag, but the fact that they didn't extend the same treatment to *Every* gnc character really rubbed me the wrong way. Still does.
It's more so Japanese views on gender really? Okama is still a word used today, but it doesn't really have a good translation into English. Okamas are sadly still used as the butt of a joke, even in every day media. And gay marriage only became legal recently in Japan. I'd honestly love to see a remake, I think the creator had some interesting things to say about gender but in order to appeal to a Japanese audience added in recognisable tropes?
I had to drop the show after Honey used the t-slur, I just couldn’t get that scene out of my head :/ I know it was a different time and Japan was a conservative but idk
To be entirely fair about the ending of the show (not the manga) no one actually gets together in the end. In fact the “polite argument” between the two fathers is meant to establish that.
It’s to get you to read the manga of course, but fuck it, it worked on me lol.
11:40 "No point in a lesbian relationship" ? What kind of nonsense did the dub made Tamaki say?😅 That is DEF never been part of his character.
Tbh I always thought that tamaki being oblivious to his feelings for haruhi and the whole daddy thing was first making fun of how weird some anime romances are and then on maybe a deeper level the fact he always entertains people he has no real feelings for so when he met someone he has actual romantic feelings for he just couldn’t understand them and went to the only love he’s ever really felt and that he shows the other club members which is familial. Obviously I could be wayyy off base and the author was just like lmao daddy jokes but idk it’s always kinda made sense to me w how much of an oblivious idiot he is most of the time.
I always assumed this was what Kaoru was getting at in that one scene
You're not as far off base as you think. One of Tamaki's dreams is having both him, his parents, and his grandmother together sitting at a kotatsu because to him it symbolizes a strong healthy family connection. He views the host club as a found family and while that is very sweet and it shows how much he cares for them, it is just another highlight of his immature nature that keeps him oblivious from what he truly feels for Haruhi. Hikaru even calls Tamaki out for this, trying to get him to understand that the bond and friendship the club share will not be broken if Tamaki decided to pursue a romantic relationship with Haruhi.
I'm so glad this project finally got completed! I never got a chance to watch this show, I was probs too young to be aware of it. But I really appreciate you going in deep in the character relationships, interactions, and really just what the show meant to you. Great stuff as always!
Thanks for being here Kash!
this series genuinely means so much to me and its one of my favourite anime series.
Not because of how it displays gender or any such "progressive" ideas because yeah, they did good stuff with Haruhi, but there was also extreme transphobia with Ranka and the lesbophobia in those two episodes.....yeah
i love it because this show has ALWAYS made me _feel._ Haruhi's stuff with her mom and her hyper independence throughout the series plus the entire final act of the show, Hikaru and Kaoru's growth and the difference between their personal insights (eg: the episode where Hikaru and Haruhi go on a date and Kaoru explains why he created that situation plus Hikaru crying at the end of the ep after he apologises to Haruhi), Tamaki's backstory and how/why he created the host club and how his idea of this club basically saved the host club members and Kyoya's backstory and his relationship with Tamaki (that was the only thing in this show and one of the only in all of anime and manga that has made me ugly cry and sob while watching it).
Also as a side note, i like Tamaki and Haruhi well enough but i'll always stand by the fact that Haruhi/Hikaru and Tamaki/Kyoya should have been endgame without a doubt and those ships made the most sense to me throughout the series.
Tamaki is the "how can anyone not like men" type of lesbianphobic (glad he gets what's coming to him everytime he pulls something like that lol)
It could just be me, but I didn't get the impression that he ACTUALLY has a problem with queer people, he just doesn't want Haruhi to be gay because he wants her all to himself (which is still an issue on its own, just not the same one).
I honestly don't think he would have expressed homophobic views to the Zuka Club girls if he didn't see them as a "threat" or competition for Haruhi's attention and affection. When he thought Haruhi might have been a gay boy he didn't express any distaste or opposition. It was only once he recognized Haruhi as a girl (and allowed himself to gradually acknowledge attraction to her) that he started wanting to separate "girl Haruhi" from homosexuality, out of possessiveness, rather than disdain for gay people.
That's how I took it anyway, myself being gay and non-binary (afab).
I found this show in the first half of my freshman year in 2017 and only made it to episode 10 before things got in the way and I never finished it. Fast forward to the beginning of my senior year in 2020 and I revisited it since I saw it while scrolling and looking for shows to watch. I finally finished it and it was kind of bittersweet since the first time I watched it I was in a completely different point in my life compared to now. Idk exactly how to explain it, but I feel like this show connects me to a different point in my life where things were simpler and I wasn’t dealing with things such as a global pandemic or approaching adulthood.
If you watched til the end you heard me express a somewhat similar sentiment ☺️
I legit rewatch this series once every 6 months at least
i recently watched ouran for the first time , and i loved it. i loved the humor and i thought the characters friendships were great. but some episodes i was like “how the fuck was this acceptable ?” (ex. the beach episode and how characters referred to haruhis dad in the dub)
the show has its problematic elements and is DEFINITELY a product of its time , but i enjoyed it overall.
An old friend recommended this anime to me back in 2014 when I was about 18 years old. This anime has a close place in my heart because that friend is no longer here in this world, she's in Ouranos. It made me wonder if she wanted acceptance, had she been part of a community that uplifts her like they do in the host club, would she still be here? This video brought back so many wonderful memories, thank you for sharing your perspective.
istg whenever i hear the ohshc theme i tear up
Is it weird that I always shipped Haruhi and Kyoya? Even at age 15 I thought Tamaki was clingy, possessive, and had his own issues to work through.
Yeah other ships are valid, I think I actually liked Haruhi and Hikaru the most. Since this show is essentially making fun of anime tropes, the writing of Tamaki and Haruhi's relationship suffered and they weren't the best pairing.
@@offbeatkiki I agree Haruhi and Hikaru should have happened now that I'm looking with my 2021 eyes
@@offbeatkiki omg hikaharu shipper taste
From what I've heard, Tamaki and his relationship with Haruhi is better written in the manga.
@@crimsonbutterfly2282 yeah I’ve read the manga twice and it’s was more fleshed out
I remember being 11 watching this show and wanting to be Haruhi SO BAD.
Yeah so about a month later my egg cracked akfjd
I would never admit it in front of my friends but Ouran High School Host Club is my fave anime of all time.
It's a good choice for that title!
Ouran (as you may be able to tell) is very close to my heart. It was the first anime I ever watched all the way through, and one of a handful of shows that an old friend introduced me to to get me into anime back when I was twelve. I recognize it has its flaws, but I do still love it. The first time that I stepped into music room three, I was unsure. But I circled back a few months later and gave the host club a second chance, and they didn't disappoint.
Ouran is beautiful, with complex characters, but it's also not afraid to get more than a little silly. I'm eighteen now, and even though I think I've passed my peak Ouran obsession (like making it my username on every platform) there are a lot of memories I can look back on, like cheering for Haruhi the first time I saw that climactic scene in episode 26, or anxiously reciting the hosts names to distract my brain on a school trip.
I know Ouran has its faults, but it's dear to me, and I'll forever be a Kyoya fan first and a person second :)
The ending to episode 9 (the first Lobellia episode) was the hardest laugh I've ever gotten out of an anime.
I definitely understand where you're coming from with how it's weird Tamaki talks about Haruhi as his daughter and is possessive (due to that I think)
But I believe it comes from him lacking family dynamic growing up and the club became his family and he didn't have any examples of true romantic relationships - it was all just the show that he learned and put on for the club. He didn't understand his feelings for her were romantic and the want to protect, care, and love her came out as possessive because it was easier to understand caring for her like a daughter
Definitely doesn't justify it, but I think explains it
I didn’t remember haruhis dad being treated like that but now I’m realizing how bad it was
that's part of why i like making these videos, i get an updated opinion on things from my past
Till this day…
We are still waiting for the 2 season
Let's be real here the first episode is pretty much perfect but extending that this is a great review thank you for taking the time
The first episode is a great pilot!
it's all good haruhi, i don't like rich people either.
I actually watched the show because of you and I loved it so much I feel like I owe you a debt of servitude.
I'm so glad you loved it!!!
Your smile is very heartwarming, it's good to see you upload again!
This was an amazing video! Ouran was one of my favorite animes when I was younger and I've thought about revisiting it but now I don't have to!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for being here!
i think tamaki's problamatic lines comes from the fear of losing haruhi. he is ignorant to how those words come by to others. I'm not trying to defend him but if we know his character, can see that his words doesn't mean anything.
Congrats on getting it out! I know how much time and effort this has taken, and I can't wait to watch it later today.
Hope you enjoy it!
Haruhi and hikaru forever, I felt like tamaki and haruhi was kinda rushed and felt undeveloped
agree, and i think that's because of the satirical nature of the series, it being rushed was intentional
This video was even better than I expected it to be Kiki. From your cosplay at the beginning to your monologue at the end every part of it had something that resonated with me, made me smile, and kept me intrigued.
I had only ever seen a few episodes of Ouran myself, but this was a great to learn more about the series. All in all, this was a great video and your hard work shines through in every part. I’ll always look forward to what you put out in the future 💜
As someone who doesn't watch too much anime, and who hasn't even heard of this series outside of you... color me intrigued. And it's on Tubi for free, so I have no reason not to take a look at it.
LMK your Toon Thoughts if you do!
I remember a freind of mine introduced this series to me , and I thought it was pretty fun time when I initially saw it .
It's one of the funnier ones I've seen.
Great video. I'm glad I got recommended Ouran as an adult. Such a sweet anime. Glad this passion project is finally out
I thought the scene from the beach episode was Kyoya trying to win the competition the boys had trying to find something Haruhi fears, and the comedy aspect was Haruhi mistaking Kyoya's motivations to be trying to teach her about her limits, and then 5 minutes later Tamaki who was actually trying to tell her about there limits accidentally finds out Haruhi's fear of lightning and thunder
Wow! Thats a large essay I'mma have to watch in parts! I'm hyped
Hope you enjoyed the part with your beat!! (:
Something that I despise, as a lesbian, is the Lobelia girls and their academy. I can't watch the episode without feeling stereotyped. I wont go into a rant on how feminisim and radical feminism are very different, with one being good and something everyone should believe in, well the other being very bad. Throughout the show, the Lobelia girls are presented as radical feminists who believe women are above men and blah blah blah. As a child I had this mindset because I liked girls and that was the mindset all these girls in media were shown to have. As a teenager (16) I know realize how harmful that stereotype is. I will say though, it's good that lesbians in exist in media, but not those harmful stereotypes. If the term TERF existed back then, they would 100% be those.
Side note though, I do think what they did well was make the the Lobelia girls diverse in appearance. They are't these heavily masculine women, they're just women. Very sexist women, but not all butch women which is something.
I didn't even think about tamaki being attracted to haruhi before he knew she was a girl when i first watched that's cool :)
Best damn Ouran video on this side of the Mississippi
Bout to fight whoever's on the other side
Hey. I'm 40 and still love this anime. It is not time to put it away.
honestly i've been feeling the itch to watch it again but more casually not a binge like i did for this video
You've put it all into words so well
Wow this is the video I was waiting for but didn’t know it, thanks Johnny2cellos for directing me here!
Johnny rules! Thank you for watching!
LOVE THE COSPLAY AHHHHHHHH
Thanks Blake :')
Edit: lol it actually came back on Netflix the other day, what are the odds? Haha
It really sucks that Netflix doesn't have it anymore, I really wanted to rewatch it
When I was a sophomore in highschool my friend introduced this show to me, up until that point I had only seens anime that was more fighting focused, like Naruto, One Piece, and Shaman King, but some how I absolutely fell in love with this show and it's 1 of only 3 non fighting focused animes I love
Super great video!
It's on Hulu and Tubi now! Thanks for watching.
@@offbeatkiki thanks for the tip, I'll go start a free trial for hulu lol
It's on youtube too, if you don't want to pay for it!
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@@makcrossing oh wow cool, thanks!
New Kiki video, we love to see it
Great video! Can't wait to see more!!
Thank you for being here!
i loved this show and looked soo long to find a similar show, any suggestions ??
you might like Princess Jellyfish, but I gotta say it's been about 8 years since I watched that one so my memory is fuzzy.
U mean like gender stuff or lovable cast
I am so fucking late to this but The Wallflower. Its one of my all time faves (both anime and manga) and I hope you checked it out sometime.
I think trying to define something as timeless or not is a bit hard to do but ig how it affects you might be one way of looking at it but I think the “timeless-ness” of a show kinda goes with who it’s audience is I think for the most part if you not necessarily ignore but just keep in your mind when it was made and the word choices aren’t good at times most youth/teens or it’s target audience would still feel somewhat the same from when it was shown to anytime in the future that’s just my opinion
YEEAAAHHHH STREETS IS ✨FEASTING✨
A whole meal
Good for offbeatkiki, their content is always worth the wait :)
I remember watching this weekly back in 2006 waiting on fansubs and discussing it on fan forums. I've probably rewatched this anime more times than any other series. It's always a recommendation I make to anyone old or new to anime. Watched it with many different ex partners too. Never found anyone to dislike this masterpiece (imo)
I love this show and Tamaki its so cute
First I would like to say I loved the video..I havent finished it yet because I have to go somewhere but I will be back. But from what I have seen so far I think it beautifully edited and just gives me so much nostalgic feeling. Oh before I go... Im not sure how well known this info is but there is a move that is in live action.....Do with that info however you want.
Thank you for watching!
A tiny update for Tamaki; his mother was ill, and the money was to pay for treatment :D
I’m here for this!! I love Ouran so much lmao
I just rewatched the series, and sure the are some moments that are inappropriate (?) but this anime is from 2006, thing were really different back then.
I feel like part of why Haruhis dad may seem like is being played off as a joke is because he has the same energy as Tamaki. With Tamaki being a cis male it's just a character trait, but that trait applied to a gender non-conforming character is seen as mocking or making a joke of the character
Personally I just saw Haruhis dad as an energetic, spontaneous, and impulsive character just like Tamaki. But I understand how it may read differently due to the characters gender
(From a NB person)
Personally I wished that Hikaru and Haurni could of got together it would be so interesting I feel like Hikaru might have trauma or depression and I feel like Haurni helps him in that
Also about the laughably bad dubs, there is a lot of them, but if you haven't already, you need to see Ghost Stories dubbed
The chokehold “kiss kiss fall in love” had on me in middle school is sad XD
I find it so funny how the previous video i saw on ohshc had the person saying they loved the Nekozawa episodes. Personally I'm just more a fan of episodes that really focus on the members of the host club.
I know the writers were originally going to have her end up w/ Mori, and they pushed Tamaki as the main love interest, but I really prefer Hikaru and/or Kaoru
she had some nice chemistry with the brothers
Ye
i downloaded the sub of this show ages ago, and just use that if i want something for background noise. this is the first time i've ever heard the dub voices, it's surreal! also the sub never had any slurs against haruhi's dad, learning about the 't' slur being thrown around in the dub was also surreal. it seems kinda unnecessary to go out of your way to change the dialogue to where it would incorporate that, definitely transphobic since it most likely came from cis people. that being said the term itself doesn't bother me a whole lot, i've come across a fair handful of trans folks who've reclaimed it for themselves, and use it casually. same with a handful of gay people reclaiming the 'f' slur.
i'm trans and bisexual and don't really think it's acceptable to have cishet characters use the T or F slur in media regardless of people reclaiming it - i agree it's very weird to add that in for the english dub, i want to check out the subbed version now as i've always seen the english dub with this specific show even though i typically am team subs
@@offbeatkiki yeah, that's fair. there is more of a kneejerk with cishets doing it since it's always derogative, i'm so detached from fiction that i can't take that crap seriously, but that doesn't mean others aren't allowed to be upset. real people did make the decision to add that in after all, so it does come from prejudice.
you totally should! i wouldn't say it sounds better, but it's like night and day.
Anyone else think Tamaki look like Joey Wheeler in this scene 31:25
While I do get where you're coming from, there are points you bring I very much disagree a lot
1. I think the ending was actually better than a lot of open ending series out there. It was very clear Tama and Haruhi will end up together, but we don't need to see it to know. Unlike the boring typical shoujo manga. Life is not something prefect, some things just happen in their own and I love it, actually. It gives us freedom for a change. And take it into consideration that the series isn't done while the anime series was airing, so they did what they could with what they had at the time.
2. Tama and Haruhi Relationship and dynamic is actually great unlike so many bad shoujo manga and anime, boring/annoying girls in this genre is still the same to this day. they either too prefect or always need to be rescue from something. and Haruhi is not that! she is the one that will decide in this relationship, and if she does not want something, Tamaki will listen to her. it actually very healthy relationship unlike so many other series. and it is a relationship that make sense, like the epi that Tama acting just like her dad and she was happy and laugh at him. a lot of Relationship build like this, it reminds you of home in some way. and no I didn't care about the Beach episode.
if you actually read some shoujo manga you would have seen how toxic most of the main couple are in those stories. and there is a LOT.
Thank you for this take!! I totally agree with you, I feel like their relationship is more more understandable when reading the manga too.
I agree completely. However, "good compared to" isn't the best defense.
Did you do the amv @ 1:47? That was a bop. Never thought airplanes and the ouran opening would slap so hard lol
I didn't make the music but yes I made the AMVs! I love making them
goddammit that ending got me crying ; ;
I watched this in the spring of 2020, and I fell in love. It's my top comfort show now lol
great choice for a comfort show it always makes me laugh
Man, I haven't watched Ouran Host Club in years ! I need to rewatch it.
At long last 😊
I'm a little bit disappointed they never got it a remake but I guess when I guess the next anime gets a remake
This was a great video! Been meaning to watch this show for a while now.
Just got finish binging this on Netflix, it was a blast! Made me want to check out the manga witch had a more conclusive ending than the anime great retrospective Kiki💜
Tamakis mom never “sold him”, Tamaki himself chose to leave France for Japan because his grandmother promised to take care of his mom (who was sick at the time and they couldn’t afford the medical care) as long as he agreed to her terms of coming to be the “heir” of the Suoh company and cutting off everybody and everything from his childhood in France. I think cause I read the manga, but even though anime Tamaki is so… annoying to put it bluntly (ESPECIALLY the dub version Vic Mignona is just so… 🤢) I have a soft spot for him cause of his background and the sadness he experience and how despite all that, he still forms bonds in Japan and goes out of his way to try and make everyone happy. Y’all the manga is just superior, I love the anime trust me, it’s the first real anime I ever watched, but I remember reading the manga after watching the show and I was genuinely so sad like “WHAT??? There’s so much mooooooore” that’s why I wish there was an anime remake that followed the manga more closely, i think it would have a love of potential
(Side note, I also like the live action and wish more people watched it too😔, i don’t know… i think it’s a good remake and adds something to it that gives you a hint of what a full manga adapted remake could be)
This was a great review. I think you did an amazing joke highlighting both where it shines and also falls hard.
Thanks for watching!! 💕