Miyazaki vs Miyazaki

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • I made this video to be a both humorous and informational video about both Hayao Miyazaki and Hidetaka Miyazaki. I did it in a versus format to make it a bit more fun an engaging. I hope you enjoy!
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    / @dondonrv
    External sources
    time.com/collection/100-most-...
    time.com/6964119/hayao-miyazaki/
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_M...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidetak...
    apjjf.org/Margaret-Talbot/190...
    briandanacamp.wordpress.com/2...
    Li, Chenmei. “Influence of Hayao Miyazaki’s Animation on the Cross-Cultural Spread of Japanese Traditional Culture Under the Background of 5G and Wireless Communication.” Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing, vol. 2021, Hindawi, 2021, pp. 1-5, doi.org/10.1155/2021/1640983.
    Chapters
    00:00 - Intro
    03:02 - The Works
    07:38 - The Influence
    10:10 - The Personalities
    14:28 - Conclusion
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Комментарии • 605

  • @Dan_Kanerva
    @Dan_Kanerva Месяц назад +3676

    is really hard to choose, but i vote for Miyazaki

    • @TheGreatestTerrariaPlayerEver
      @TheGreatestTerrariaPlayerEver Месяц назад +124

      Miyazaki is way better!

    • @boocolo1046
      @boocolo1046 Месяц назад +20

      God damnit i hate it when ppl like you says thing like that ! have you even Seen the video ?

    • @Dan_Kanerva
      @Dan_Kanerva Месяц назад +19

      @@boocolo1046 funny enough, i wanted to talk bout what might have changed Hayao's personality to make him soo cynical. But then i remember, maybe if i say the dum best thing ever i will make someone laugh

    • @jacobdoswalt
      @jacobdoswalt Месяц назад +6

      I don't know man... Miyazaki is sooo much better

    • @luckyadrianhutapea
      @luckyadrianhutapea Месяц назад +1

      Which Miyazaki?

  • @Deatheater4444
    @Deatheater4444 Месяц назад +2646

    Hayao Miyazaki: Work is bright and shiny and optimistic; is a miserable old pessimist. No poison swamps.
    Hidetaka Miyazaki: Work is gritty, post-apocalyptic dark fantasy; seems to be an upbeat, happy dude. All of the poison swamps.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 Месяц назад +355

      Hayao is indeed miserable, i genuinely don't enjoy the movies knowing how negative he constantly is, he's a stuck up old bag of sadness.
      Hidetaka is the biggest Gigachad in the games industry, he's a very chill and happy guy, doesn't care if others criticize him/his work or try to imitate his work down to T.

    • @JellyJman
      @JellyJman Месяц назад +77

      Honestly it’s very interesting how they are so different yet have such different outlets

    • @darkvulpes4826
      @darkvulpes4826 Месяц назад +190

      ​@@detectivemadoka69420 it's pretty similar how people was comparing Hayao to Junji Ito, like how he seems such a goofball in comparison to his grotesque and relentless stories.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 Месяц назад +13

      @@darkvulpes4826 Exactly.

    • @lucienarcos-palma3834
      @lucienarcos-palma3834 Месяц назад +6

      You guys never saw grave of the fireflies

  • @sued_
    @sued_ Месяц назад +1586

    Feet man vs "Anime was a mistake" Truly one of the matchups of all time

    • @NeedsContent
      @NeedsContent Месяц назад +171

      I know who Quentin Tarantino would side with.

    • @etinarcadiaego7424
      @etinarcadiaego7424 Месяц назад +5

      Me and Joss Whedon concur. Still hate the man, though lol I'm a burgeoning creator and random pointless foot focus is a part of my work. I mean, storytelling and quality comes first of course.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 Месяц назад +49

      Now that's just reductive.
      He also probably likes size difference and definitely likes princes(ses)

    • @ettertarten
      @ettertarten Месяц назад +50

      poison swamp man

    • @debatenothing5676
      @debatenothing5676 Месяц назад

      Not enough feets

  • @jonaswest6993
    @jonaswest6993 Месяц назад +1569

    My favorite part is that Miyazaki is a pretty common name but as foreigners we only really know of these two

    • @evagand
      @evagand Месяц назад +156

      There’s also the guy who recently created the vaccine capable of extending the lives of cats

    • @juromori
      @juromori Месяц назад +17

      There's the serial killer too unfortunately

    • @grugmangaming5152
      @grugmangaming5152 Месяц назад +90

      @@juromori It's a expectant thing for incredibly common names, such as with the name John. Johns in history have been saints or killers.

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop Месяц назад +16

      Yeah it’s basically like John Dunne vs John Locke.

    • @jeremygardner5987
      @jeremygardner5987 Месяц назад +1

      John Dee 😩

  • @eidolon9767
    @eidolon9767 Месяц назад +1072

    I still always find it funny how the man who creates movies full of hope and childlike wonder is incredibly grumpy, hard, and pessimistic. The one who makes worlds full of suffering, despair, and unimaginable horrors is a kind, humble, and childlike man.

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop Месяц назад +239

      Honestly, I think that’s part of what makes Hidetaka’s work so good. The worlds he makes aren’t grimdark out of pessimism, they’re like. That to serve the themes of triumph in the face of impossible odds. I honestly think that Hidetaka Miyazaki is one of the best game directors out there for making theme, setting, and gameplay work together.

    • @merlinkater7756
      @merlinkater7756 Месяц назад +75

      It's such a wonderful example of just because someone's work looks depressing, doesn't mean they are depressed. And the other way around! The contrast between the two Miyazaki's is to great, it's kinda funny. They are like diametric opposites.

    • @mahtimonni97
      @mahtimonni97 Месяц назад +51

      Also look up: Junji Ito!
      Just an adorable cinnamon bun of a person!
      Who also created Uzumaki!

    • @Xx_SuperPenis_xX
      @Xx_SuperPenis_xX Месяц назад

      you guys should stop putting this image of both of them in your heads smh
      you don't know either of them how they appear of the screen or how the media presents could be entirely different to how they actually in day to day life

    • @Sir_Fres
      @Sir_Fres Месяц назад +2

      he's hard?

  • @viniciuspurezaribeiro7298
    @viniciuspurezaribeiro7298 Месяц назад +1342

    without a doubt Miyazaki would win

    • @aidas52
      @aidas52 Месяц назад +3

      Which one?🙂

    • @emilschneider467
      @emilschneider467 Месяц назад +8

      Ah yes, the ambiguous answer

    • @happy_vanilla_latte
      @happy_vanilla_latte Месяц назад +2

      On god

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y Месяц назад +2

      I don’t know dude; I’m pretty sure Miyazaki would beat him.

    • @matthewcdf1
      @matthewcdf1 Месяц назад +1

      Miyazaki A5 Wagyu Beef is the winner

  • @VioletSilence
    @VioletSilence Месяц назад +629

    Damn, some of those Hayao's quotes look exactly like he played too much Dark Souls.

    • @ASmartNameForMe
      @ASmartNameForMe Месяц назад +126

      Hayao gonna be the next crestfallen warrior

    • @ThisIsPampkin
      @ThisIsPampkin Месяц назад +75

      @@ASmartNameForMe now that you mention it, "Hayao the Crestfallen" sounds like an actual NPC in Souls if it has a strong Japanese Theme.

    • @DX197able
      @DX197able Месяц назад +13

      ​@@ThisIsPampkin Imagine that being one of Sekiro's NPC's name 👀

    • @madnight1553
      @madnight1553 25 дней назад +3

      i like your comment and thumbs up it too. but tbh playing hidetaka's game actually makes you more hopeful and positive because its teach you every obstacle can be bested as long as you gitgud

    • @VioletSilence
      @VioletSilence 25 дней назад +3

      @@madnight1553 Playing the game - maybe, apart from most of NPC sidequests which almost always end in their demise
      Exploring the lore, however, can be unbearably dark

  • @merlinkater7756
    @merlinkater7756 Месяц назад +247

    Hayao feels like he would be a character in one of Hidetaka's games

  • @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
    @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy Месяц назад +343

    Hidetaka Miyazaki said he wanted to make games that captures his experience of playing 1980s PC RPGs in English when he didn’t speak the language, and those RPGs were obscure even if you spoke English. You could easily get locked out of completing and keep playing for months without realizing it.

    • @dev4159
      @dev4159 Месяц назад +11

      wasn't it books ?

    • @mahtimonni97
      @mahtimonni97 Месяц назад +36

      I've heard the same about old fantasy movies.
      In any case, I find it interesting how the soulsborne games have this very "jamais vu" feel to them. In a sense that they feel like "western" sword fantasy, made by someone with a different cultural background. Something familiar, but also new and strange.

    • @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
      @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy Месяц назад +5

      @@dev4159 yeah for sure. I read about his thought on old CRPGS but it definitely has to be books too. He definitely knows the genre tremendously.

    • @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
      @VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy Месяц назад +1

      @@mahtimonni97 100% true. I’m a huge reader of fantasy and sci Fi more than a gamer, but these games fascinate me to no end.

    • @garstrum4401
      @garstrum4401 Месяц назад +7

      @@mahtimonni97 I really dig that about Dark Souls etc, and Elden Ring. The 'typical' Medieval Europe setting, with a lot of themes of godliness/divinity (that feel vaguely Christian at times with the cathedrals etc, especially in Demon's Souls where the deity is just called "god"). But through a Japanese lens. Bloodborne as well, that Victorian/gothic setting but through a Japanese lens. It's just... artistically striking? Idk how to describe it.

  • @joeking6972
    @joeking6972 Месяц назад +253

    Hidetaka's games are bleak and oppressive but contain an underlying theme of hope and self-overcoming.
    He understands that there is nothing more profound than hope in the face of overwhelming hopelessness.

    • @bungiecrimes7247
      @bungiecrimes7247 Месяц назад +21

      The other guy just hates his son, that's it.

  • @Capewearer
    @Capewearer Месяц назад +361

    Do you know that Miyazaki is translated as "toxic swamp"? That explains his love to swamps in any games.
    Do you also know that Miyazaki's father beated his son with belt, but delayed his attacks, so son couldn't avoid them with rolling? That's why he tried to parry, but whiplashes can't be parried.

    • @j0nnyism
      @j0nnyism Месяц назад +45

      Bet he varied his attacks and added lots of flurry’s as his son got older. “Learn from this son, you’ll thank me when ur older”

    • @Capewearer
      @Capewearer 26 дней назад +18

      @@j0nnyism he never forgot to pour belt with rotten pine resin: "Use a pine resin to slay a mighty foe, my son!".

    • @dvdbox360
      @dvdbox360 24 дня назад

      sekiro: by parry you mean perfect block?

    • @magitrop5336
      @magitrop5336 23 дня назад +7

      Few people know that one day Miyazaki finally learned to evade and memorized all of his father's patterns. Then his father started to deal ten times more damage, frantically rush around the room and also use fast combos mixed with delayed attacks. However, the father knew it isn't enough to surprise his son, so all his belt attacks have gained an area damage in case Miyazaki decided to roll behind him. And even when Miyazaki thought he can drink some Fanta safely, father's belt attack instantly reached him across the room.

    • @sophisticatedbear3374
      @sophisticatedbear3374 22 дня назад

      No miyazaki is translated as shrine cape. 宮 (miya) meaning "temple, shrine, palace" and 崎 (saki) meaning "cape, peninsula".

  • @jmssun
    @jmssun Месяц назад +200

    Hayao Miyazaki is like my mother, brought me up to the man I am with wondrous joy and PTSD…
    Hidetaka Miyazaki is like my wife, accompanies me as the man I am with wondrous joy and PTSD …
    The two most important women in my life

    • @thebatman-lr1sq
      @thebatman-lr1sq Месяц назад +20

      Hayao “hates his son” Miyazaki

    • @Nostre38
      @Nostre38 Месяц назад

      ​@@thebatman-lr1sq I read that their relationship is better nowadays.

    • @Takinu
      @Takinu 29 дней назад +10

      Man, I wish Hidetaka Miyazaki was my wife…

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius 14 дней назад

      @@Takinu He doesn't have time for relationships. He needs to make games.

  • @mmyr8ado.360
    @mmyr8ado.360 Месяц назад +166

    Both of them are passionate in their work, but they are also men of their own times. Hayao saw ruin and prosperity in the aftermath of WW2, and Hidetaka saw prosperity and ruin through the near end of thr Showa period and the market crash of the 90s.
    Also Death's Door is clearly inspired by both men.

    • @Xindacator
      @Xindacator Месяц назад +16

      Death’s Door is a pretty fantastic game ngl

    • @jajasking9652
      @jajasking9652 Месяц назад +2

      I had that Game in my backlog played It this year and It currently is the biggest surprise of the games i've played this year, such a good game

  • @Vinlaan
    @Vinlaan Месяц назад +422

    As a dark souls veteran (abuse victim) I vote for Hidetaka. (I’m biased af)
    Edit: I’ve indirectly started a war.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 Месяц назад +49

      He creates some very dark worlds, but at least he is a very chill happy man unlike the constant misery and pretentiousness of Hayao.

    • @CatwhiskerPurr
      @CatwhiskerPurr Месяц назад +5

      @@detectivemadoka69420 create? more like borrow and stealing from Berzerk. Overrated and overhyped Director

    • @dev4159
      @dev4159 Месяц назад +71

      @@CatwhiskerPurr womp womp

    • @Chicken-do1tt
      @Chicken-do1tt Месяц назад +57

      @@CatwhiskerPurr womp womp

    • @jekila2149
      @jekila2149 Месяц назад +62

      @@CatwhiskerPurrevery piece of art is inspired by something one way of another idiot

  • @nickoliekeyov746
    @nickoliekeyov746 Месяц назад +414

    I’ve heard Hayao has a very… 'strong' personality and can be kind of unpleasant to work with and is a harsh parent. Idk if I’ve ever heard anyone say anything bad about Hidetaka. He seems to just be a lil guy.

    • @-coffeecat1590
      @-coffeecat1590 Месяц назад +136

      He like feet haha

    • @LtCdrXander
      @LtCdrXander Месяц назад +118

      He's just a lil' guy 🥺

    • @revengance4149
      @revengance4149 Месяц назад +81

      @@-coffeecat1590 apparently he was to embarrassed to show Malenias feet in phase 2. makes you think that if it wasn't for that would Malenia have had legs instead of prosthesis?

    • @revengance4149
      @revengance4149 Месяц назад +58

      I mean the guy sees a zombie crawling with his head and his first reaction is "what a insult to life itself" while I thought that was the funniest shit I saw all week. at least he is overly serious.

    • @MrFRNTIK
      @MrFRNTIK Месяц назад +4

      ​@@revengance4149she has one leg right? That's enough for me

  • @NTokugawa
    @NTokugawa Месяц назад +416

    i think h. miyazaki wins

  • @ryuichimiyazaki5620
    @ryuichimiyazaki5620 Месяц назад +117

    As a Miyazaki, I am on the side of Miyazaki

    • @LooterPenguin
      @LooterPenguin Месяц назад +12

      I'm sure Ryuichi is a pretty good Miyazaki as well

    • @eticket48
      @eticket48 Месяц назад +5

      All Miyazaki’s are absolute legends

  • @viniciuseduardobomfim
    @viniciuseduardobomfim Месяц назад +29

    *Hidetaka Miyazaki:*
    • Shows up randomly, one year after the DLC was announced
    • Drops an insane trailer that features Queen Marika's feet
    • Refuses to elaborate and leaves immediately
    A true chad 🗿

  • @aliekexie8467
    @aliekexie8467 Месяц назад +96

    Never could finish Miyazaki's work from start to finish, always drop off, just not for me. But Miyazaki's work is great, my favorite still replaying it constantly.

    • @xlgapelsin6173
      @xlgapelsin6173 Месяц назад +15

      I think we both agree Miyazaki is cooking

    • @nickpapadopoulos9978
      @nickpapadopoulos9978 23 дня назад +2

      I agree on spirited away, because I have watched the start of the movie back when I was a little kid were my parents bought a dvd copy from the supermarket but I don't want to finish it even today because I personally just didn't like were he was going with the plot and story, so i haven't touched that movie since then and i am in twentys!

  • @mightynoob45
    @mightynoob45 Месяц назад +142

    i have 700 hrs in elden ring and everytime i see a friend playing they have stuff ive never seen

    • @minerman60101
      @minerman60101 Месяц назад +41

      Spiritcaller snails have a grab attack where they jump on you and bite at your head

    • @pistacchio1373
      @pistacchio1373 Месяц назад +25

      The boss fight in the magic city of caelid the boss with the two "hammers" when at low Life and alone changes his weapon to a double shield that can t be obtained

    • @Victorioinator
      @Victorioinator Месяц назад +8

      ​@@minerman60101 What 😂

    • @swag_tortoise
      @swag_tortoise Месяц назад +2

      ​@@pistacchio1373 which boss are you referring to? i can't recall anything like that

    • @screamthesecond3946
      @screamthesecond3946 Месяц назад +12

      @@swag_tortoise nox swordstress and nightmaiden located in the town of sellia

  • @steviegilliam5685
    @steviegilliam5685 Месяц назад +117

    weirdly i get tolkien vs frank herbert vibes from this

    • @genericcatgirl
      @genericcatgirl Месяц назад +33

      That's actually really accurate

    • @tobynhiatt2381
      @tobynhiatt2381 Месяц назад +31

      Funny thing is one of them despises Tolkien a lot. And it ain’t Hidetaka

    • @Whyisthisathing825
      @Whyisthisathing825 Месяц назад +2

      Holy s*** you're right

    • @soulless_jake540
      @soulless_jake540 Месяц назад +1

      You arent wrong

    • @solus48
      @solus48 Месяц назад +13

      ​@@tobynhiatt2381 i remember seeing Hayao's take on Tolkien and thinking it couldn't be anything other than a deep misunderstanding of the message and themes of Tolkien's works

  • @edwartvonfectonia4362
    @edwartvonfectonia4362 Месяц назад +41

    In terms of inspiration, have you noticed that like 40% of the games that was revealed during Summer Game Fest was pretty "Souls-like". And now every good game of 80 score and up has this gameplay mechanic.

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 Месяц назад +2

      No

    • @Hyde_Lawrence
      @Hyde_Lawrence Месяц назад +16

      I mean, elden ring sold millions and millions, many companies want some of that cake. Of course there is influence but a lot of them are just greedy companies jumping on the trend. 90% of those games are going to be shit, look at lords of the fallen.

    • @shreksmeatballs9435
      @shreksmeatballs9435 Месяц назад

      Not only that, but it seems the majority of GOOD 3rd person RPG games nowadays are also soulslikes. Lies of P is a good example, that's GOTY for me and it's heavily inspired by Bloodborne and Sekiro.

  • @pitbulxdeaa
    @pitbulxdeaa Месяц назад +43

    Hayao is little misunderstood tho. Because even tho he says grim stuff what he really means is that the world is corrupted, like for example that quote about Manhattan, he just says that all of this monetary system is fake and the worst kind of people chase money and build these abominations like Manhattan to showcase their false god. And he just says that he would like to see that to transform to original form where there is nature and peace. Also that quote about anime being mistake be says that in the context of anime that he makes is really expensive and for many many years they were barely breaking even, also the process itself is really draining and Hayao is really involved into his projects, so considering his age I think he is just tired of this work, and just making normal movies would be easier, cheaper and probably at the end making more money.

    • @loulou3881
      @loulou3881 Месяц назад +9

      I think it still comes off as highly judgmental to say those kind of things. Some of the things he says feels like the rumbling of an old man who only sees things as black or white and choose to shut himself down to any kind of changes. Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion and obviously nothing is wrong with him saying what he feels. But I don't know, saying these things this way is definitely not inspiring at all for me. That's okay though his work is highly inspiring!

    • @makkern5965
      @makkern5965 23 дня назад +2

      @@loulou3881 I don't really think the quotes were meant to be inspiring though, but I like the manhattan quote. It's really cynical but I think it's equally hopeful in a way.

  • @tryctan2399
    @tryctan2399 Месяц назад +46

    i reaally was 100% expecting for you to give both the same description

  • @ziziorens348
    @ziziorens348 Месяц назад +13

    To the point of both of them having personalities that are opposites of their work (grumpy pessimistic Hayao making wonderous and happy stories and jolly, positive Hidetaka making ruined, decaying worlds with the faintest glimmer of hope imaginable), I always like to bring up the phenomena of fandoms acting in the same way. Fandoms for happy, colorful media are often ruthless and depraved (Steven Universe, MLP), while fandoms for dark and horrible things are often positive and joyful (Fear & Hunger being a great example)

  • @Str0ngSad
    @Str0ngSad Месяц назад +102

    i was getting scared there might be a tie, fun video. Both these dudes are goat but Hayoa is def an a hole/absent father/degrading/perfectionist from the docs that have come out. I will never not love his work though

  • @yea.probably
    @yea.probably Месяц назад +43

    “80 hours of gameplay” I’m on 600+ and 2 days ago I found a new weapon, in a new dungeon, from killing a new enemy. Studio Ghibli movies are amazing and the amount of detail and passion in every frame is astounding. But the fact that every step in Elden ring feels so full of life, with a quantity of 600+ hours… I can’t act like this isn’t an unfair comparison

    • @yea.probably
      @yea.probably Месяц назад +5

      Also dark souls 3 boss designs are infinitely better than any character studio Ghibli had designed I don’t care what anyone says, the bosses are all way too cool and iconic.

    • @Hyde_Lawrence
      @Hyde_Lawrence Месяц назад +4

      You realize that you can say that about something like skyrim? If you ask any veteran of the franchise the strong point of fromsoftware games nobody will tell you "that weapon i found after 600 hs" sorry but this is shitty take.

    • @glatykoffi6672
      @glatykoffi6672 Месяц назад +1

      Well that was 600 hours of going in circles with the occasional branching away, it really ain't that long lived of a game

    • @ayatan2147
      @ayatan2147 26 дней назад

      Yea i was in disbelief when he said that he only finished it in 80 hours, like can you even say you have played it?

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman9263 Месяц назад +14

    I am hurting at the missed mention of Bloodborne.

  • @AlteredVisioned
    @AlteredVisioned Месяц назад +16

    Miyazaki: If he was at full power, he might give me a little trouble.
    Me: But would you lose
    Miyazaki: Nah I'd win

  • @user-cx6bm9ru6q
    @user-cx6bm9ru6q Месяц назад +21

    Fun fact:hidetaka myazaki doesn't want to make learning the lord difficult,he just doesn't know how to do it(this is confirmed)

  • @Choooobo
    @Choooobo Месяц назад +49

    2:04 You spelt it incorrectly. It should have been: "one of the biggest ARTORIAS in the gaming industry".

  • @baeber
    @baeber Месяц назад +67

    Michael Zaki

    • @rookie9028
      @rookie9028 Месяц назад +21

      Hideous take michael zaki

    • @Beeschurger_
      @Beeschurger_ Месяц назад +25

      Hide your tacos Michael zaki

    • @aethr1of1
      @aethr1of1 Месяц назад

      michael sucky

    • @8megabytes0
      @8megabytes0 24 дня назад

      ​​@@Beeschurger_
      Heated taco Michael zaki

  • @JacoB-wp4ws
    @JacoB-wp4ws Месяц назад +31

    damn, lupin III is truly the most underrated anime in the west, lupin III part 1 cour 2 is his first directorial debut as series director, and lupin III: castle of cagliostro is his first movie ever made and this movie is very influencial across the world, lupin III is the first seinen anime that was oriented towards adult and the movie influenced pixar as a whole as well with their formula of movies being influend by castle of cagliostro, and without lupin there would be no cowboy bebop anime as well since Shinichiro Watanabe said that his inspiration for this series was first part of lupin III

  • @N1GHTSTRIKER-45
    @N1GHTSTRIKER-45 Месяц назад +8

    Poison Swamp Man Vs "Anime Is A Mistake" Man
    Truly One Of The Most Matchups In History Of All Time.

  • @jeanclaudethedarklord6205
    @jeanclaudethedarklord6205 Месяц назад +30

    Both are goated but 1 is known to be a shitty father

  • @corrinflakes9659
    @corrinflakes9659 Месяц назад +27

    I think I give Works to Hayao for variety. While there are core feelings to what makes his work feel like Hayao Miyazaki, Nausicaa, My Neighbour Totoro, and the Boy and the Heron feel very different to each other. Where in Hidetaka’s case, there are a lot more parallels in his stories, sometimes a bit too much. The world of decay can only feel fresh so many times.

    • @marcellorossilermen2997
      @marcellorossilermen2997 Месяц назад +23

      Sekiro's story felt fresh to me, it didn't rely so much on the decaying world narrative

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul Месяц назад +8

      @@marcellorossilermen2997dragon rot: am I a joke to you? 😢

    • @midir1326
      @midir1326 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@xXLunatikxXlul yes.
      "Cures dragon rot with a single dragon scale."

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul Месяц назад +1

      @@midir1326 the dragon scales are a finite resource iirc. Also, we are talking about the story and how the theme of decay is present through *all* Fromsoftware’s games, lol.

    • @midir1326
      @midir1326 Месяц назад +3

      @@xXLunatikxXlul that may be true, but Sekiro is also the only fromsoft game that you can stop the cause of Dragon rot.

  • @ben99ny69
    @ben99ny69 Месяц назад +9

    I really wouldn't agree with "The Works" section of Hayao miyazaki. His works aren't targeted towards kids. Characters aren't easily separated in good or bad such as Eboshi, Howl, Baba, Jiro, etc. His themes are very prevalent but also subtle. Such as envitomental or consequences of techonogical advancements. Despite not growing up with his films, no other film gives me nostalgia or magical feeling than his films.
    He's also the co creater of Ghibli and, while there are other directors like Isao, he is the biggest contributer of its success. Studio ghibli is considered the equivalent of pixar or Disney (Though this is more coporate). Studio Ghibli is recognized worldwide.

  • @cymikgaming1266
    @cymikgaming1266 Месяц назад +15

    Myazaki:lord of the poison swamps vs Myazaki the man who made Spirited Away

  • @ForzenHorizonZero4down
    @ForzenHorizonZero4down 24 дня назад +15

    In childhood, Hidetaka Miyazaki was beaten by his own father, who slowly swung his belt, not allowing son to dodge. And when Miyazaki tried to drink water, his father threw objects at him. When Miyazaki memorize to his father's patterns and movesets, the father was not at a loss and began to jump madly around the room, from wall to wall, pirouettes and beating his son, stretching out the belt attacks for a long range without giving a chance to dodge.

    • @treebusettt
      @treebusettt 21 день назад +3

      it's more like Hayao story .. based on his behavior & thoughts 😂

    • @treebusettt
      @treebusettt 21 день назад +2

      Serious. My life since I was kid was dark, pessimistic, chaotic, temperamental... and I really liked Hayao's work because it was colorful, symbolizing optimism etc.
      That's because I've life like "the tarnished one" since i was kid

  • @MrBeep
    @MrBeep Месяц назад +5

    Hayao: fuck you but in movies
    Hidetaka: fuck you but in video games

  • @nekomancer4641
    @nekomancer4641 Месяц назад +6

    The way Hayao Miyazaki treats his son just can't make me have any personal respect for him

  • @elwen8525
    @elwen8525 26 дней назад +2

    Hmmm I feel like hiyos work is a lot more deep than just kids movies. They all talk about war and people trying to survive in it.

  • @GODHAND42
    @GODHAND42 Месяц назад +5

    Big fan of both, but you’re selling Hayao short on the first point. There’s a ton of thematic depth in even his most simple, childish movies and he’s pretty unique in how he breaks traditional story structure and character dynamics. You’d be benefited by watching them and focusing on more than the surface narrative

  • @yourmourningstar
    @yourmourningstar Месяц назад +4

    Ironic that the guy whose worlds are full of child-like wonder and eye candy can have such a dour outlook on life, while the guy who made Bloodborne is surprisingly optimistic and wholesome.

  • @kanseidorifto2430
    @kanseidorifto2430 Месяц назад +9

    I honestly expected for there to be a death battle between the two and we'd see their irl stats and feats to see which is more likely to win

  • @LostWallet
    @LostWallet Месяц назад +3

    suprising how someone who creat hopeful and inspiring movies and animation can be quite pessimistic, while somone who made some of the darkest and hopeless story in videogame is among one of the brightest, optimistic and happy people.

  • @HANIMEME
    @HANIMEME Месяц назад +11

    Tarnished Archeologist mentioned!!

  • @oliverhill9466
    @oliverhill9466 Месяц назад +8

    Great video. You deserve way more than 90 subs.

  • @Pluto._Jy
    @Pluto._Jy Месяц назад +11

    The Nameless king

  • @FrankJaeger803
    @FrankJaeger803 Месяц назад +4

    I grew up on the Metal Gear Solid games. I still love them, I didn't touch Dark Souls until I was 17.
    When I finally finished it, my entire outlook on games was changed. Going from hours of cutscnes where everything is explained in painstaking detail to bloodstains and item descriptions was extremely jarring but I'm commited to MILF ideology now. Man I Love Fromsoftware.
    I've killed everything from Demon's Souls to Elden Ring except for the DLC for ER. I'm working on it but it just came out yesterday.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 22 дня назад +1

      Nice. For me Demon's Souls completely changed my taste in games, back then I mostly played stuff like Uncharted 2 and Battlefield 3 but after DeS I spammed Souls games for a decade. Nowadays I play more varied stuff but I still love Souls ofc

  • @dimitrisuricato
    @dimitrisuricato Месяц назад +21

    Hayao's childhood and teenage years are the reasons why he's like that. Imagine living through the nukes and all the post war period, with the country and its people in complete shambles. Peak humanity degradation, no wonder he wishes to be away from it

    • @ryanlozano9086
      @ryanlozano9086 20 дней назад +3

      Not to mention his father beat him with the belt made it slow so he couldn’t dodge and when Hayao memorized the patterns his father jump from place to place to beat him up even made sure he couldn’t dodge his attacks

  • @ManFromThePits
    @ManFromThePits Месяц назад +9

    I don't really have a strong opinion. I love Dark Souls, and Elden Ring is great, but I don't know much about Hayao Miyazaki. Until now, I didn't know much about Hidetaka Miyazaki. I suspect Hayao is a better person than we hear about, but I'm pretty much won over by what I've heard about Hidetaka. Aside from that, I'm neutral.

  • @ShadowOfLaw
    @ShadowOfLaw Месяц назад +41

    I am really disappointed that for the average gamer, Hidetaka's storytelling is for people with the internet. In reality, the story simply is not given, it is shown in locations and items. You need to be an archeologist and deduct the story by yourself.

    • @nmlss-r9
      @nmlss-r9 Месяц назад +25

      It would not be dark souls if they told you the story straight, I get your pov but if you are playing the game you can read the items and if you don't wanna bother yourself just read/watch it online

    • @SuleX00-ov5ip
      @SuleX00-ov5ip Месяц назад +3

      I am a big fan of games that have a relaxed story. Games like hollow knight or zelda. Technically the story to you becoming elden lord/lord of cinder is the games story which means every person will experience a unique story.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain Месяц назад +2

      i personally loved the lore from elden ring but i gotta admit that the way it is presented through item descriptions isn't the most satisfying way of consuming a story. i like the visual storytelling aspect and i kinda get that it would be hard to give that much lore in another way besides item descriptions but i'll still rather go and watch lore videos than read the items. one could argue that if we had them in cinematics it would take away from the action and immersion but i feel reading the items has the same effect. i also understand that miyazaki has the theme of overcoming struggle to gain fulfillment in all aspects on his game but for me it wouldn't hurt making the story and the quests a little easier to follow. that's basically my only nitpick in elden ring, even though i still consider it a 10/10 masterpiece.

    • @kevo300
      @kevo300 Месяц назад +2

      You dont need the internet you can piece together the major plot points with some investment. You need the internet if you want piece every single detail.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain Месяц назад +4

      ​@@kevo300 there are people making maps with all the events and lore, cooperating with other creators and there is still not a clear enough image of the story. yes we all know the ring shattered, the demi gods fought with no winner and then we came in and got all the pieces to become lord and set a new order but the further you try to go deeper than that, the more convoluted and unclear the story becomes.

  • @vico-comedy
    @vico-comedy Месяц назад +3

    If i had a penny for any time a man named Miyazaki revolutionized his industry, i would have ... something something phineas and ferb reference.

  • @HarryTestakuls
    @HarryTestakuls 20 дней назад +1

    Give this man more subs RUclips, this video went way over the view count he probably expected it to.

  • @eethanl
    @eethanl Месяц назад +4

    I have 1,200 hours in eldenring, there are still some places I stumble upon that I've never seen

  • @maidenless_tarnished
    @maidenless_tarnished Месяц назад +2

    If a crossover ever happened between these two it would be magical

  • @thijs6439
    @thijs6439 Месяц назад +1

    hidetaka miyazaki is just such a nice man i love his work everytime he wins a award i have a big smile on my face

  • @donovam2773
    @donovam2773 23 дня назад

    Keep the good work brother, great video

  • @Lord_O_Beans
    @Lord_O_Beans Месяц назад +2

    HIDETAKA SUPREMACY. ELDEN RING DLC LETS GOOOOO.
    But nice video, it was a fun watch. 👌

  • @MClollolol
    @MClollolol Месяц назад

    nice vid. I subbed

  • @aries3690
    @aries3690 21 день назад

    Great Video, Keep it up!

  • @jarosawbielec3141
    @jarosawbielec3141 Месяц назад

    I cant image my life without those two guys. They shaped my personality and imagination like nobody else.

  • @EmraHemingway
    @EmraHemingway Месяц назад

    Fun video! Some of the recorded lines toward the end of the vid get cut off. I hope to see you in my Home page again!

  • @weirdoweebyness1923
    @weirdoweebyness1923 29 дней назад

    I love both creators, because they’re made me feel emotion that other media hasn’t made me.
    One sided is sadness, love, happiness, and joy.
    While the other, is Adrenaline, excitement, pride, and cockiness.
    I love watching characters make mistakes and now making mistakes when I play. two sides on the same coin

  • @Grasses0n
    @Grasses0n Месяц назад +1

    Really goes to show the ones trying to project so much happiness are the ones suffering the most. I mean just look at Robin Williams. Most people that suffer try to cover up their pain with happiness. Some people embrace it and learn from it, and become better people as a result. I think that's the biggest difference between these two men. Everyone suffers. It's just all about how you choose to deal with it.

  • @goten3965
    @goten3965 Месяц назад +1

    It’s funny how one makes incredibly dark worlds but is a happy wholesome guy
    And the other is a person who makes bright cheery worlds but is miserable grumpy old man

  • @marki-islands
    @marki-islands 27 дней назад +1

    Both their works are masterpieces however i Think i enjoy hidetaka’s work more

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 Месяц назад

    I really wonder if Hidetaka read Gormenghast at some point. Because when I first read that book about two years ago, I realized that it absolutely oozes soulslike vibes in terms of worldbuilding and dialogues.
    I remember hearing somewhere that Hidetaka once said that his style of writing was in part based on his childhood experiences of reading fantasy books in English when his English wasn't actually good enough yet to understand everything, resulting in a very cryptic and fragmentary narrative. I wonder if Gormenghast was one of those books.

  • @seanbhagwandeen802
    @seanbhagwandeen802 Месяц назад +1

    When the day comes when either of these men pass I will rewatch every studio ghibli movie and replay the souls games

  • @PRatnCave
    @PRatnCave 29 дней назад

    It took me 3-4 hours of lore videos to understand that i don't need any of it to enjoy the wild ride

  • @leroidethunes3913
    @leroidethunes3913 29 дней назад +2

    As a general rule, Hayao's movies make you think you've understood everything but in reality you've not grasped even a third of the complexity while Hidetaka's games make you think you have understood nothing while in reality you probably know more or less everything due to their simplistic narratives.

  • @BaphomentIsAwsome666
    @BaphomentIsAwsome666 20 дней назад

    Hayao is an artist through and through, the more I learned about him the more I respect the man. He has a code of ethics that he fallows not what's hot or trendy, had a long life and saw a lot of horror.

  • @Minion-qk7er
    @Minion-qk7er 21 день назад

    Nice video, I liked it!

  • @MarsMushroom
    @MarsMushroom 21 день назад

    subs?!?!?! nah you deserve more +1

  • @sirheartattack5741
    @sirheartattack5741 29 дней назад

    Hidetaka history as a game developer and as a true master of his art is truly inspiring the way he has such a detailed thinking of the worlds he builds are fascinating especially in the realm of game development and variety of ways to experience his craft, however once you're understand Hayao life is when you kinda of understand his view of it and why he does what he does, the man is harsh molded by time and by war and yet he find's a way to transform all of his experiences as a human being into art, his movies once you know the man make even more sense for his views on war, ecology, childhood, japanese mythology a deep dive into his career shows such a complexe character the man is a hard headed grump but I kinda get it the guy wants to make art but inevitably becames a international hit and I don't believe he ever wished for that perhaps he even hates that, anyway Hidetaka creates characters and world's as harsh as possible but has always a way to win a way to satisfy yourself, Hayao on the other hand was molded in a world as harsh and cruel as Hidetaka's but his world is very real and he tries to be the one that will make our world a little bit more tolerable, they really have a lot in common even in ways that we don't expect.

  • @MrDmarDX
    @MrDmarDX Месяц назад

    Imagine both setting in one table
    discussing a new game

  • @DinChaddle
    @DinChaddle Месяц назад +4

    Hidetaka Miyazaki beats the shit out of you because he loves you

  • @ultgamercw6759
    @ultgamercw6759 24 дня назад

    Two of the most talented and creative people working hard to push there industry forwards.

  • @ETBrooD
    @ETBrooD Месяц назад +3

    Cynicism is a defense mechanism for many people. When it has no bounds, it can turn into spitefulness.
    Hayao may well be a decent person, but perhaps he feels the pain from his younger years and tries to shield himself from things that could hurt him again. If he crosses a line, it might be because of a deep wound that won't heal.
    This is not an excuse, just a possible explanation. I don't know the man, I could be reading him completely wrong.

  • @dignelberrt
    @dignelberrt Месяц назад +1

    I want the next Soulsborne world to be written in partnership with Hayao Miyazaki this time. Two opposing philosophies joining together to make this world could be interesting.

  • @mayer2630
    @mayer2630 Месяц назад +1

    As an artist and a huge fromsoft fans, this is hard, this video is for fun and all and there's no need for picking a winner
    but if i really have to say which creator is more inspiring, it's hidetaka miyazaki, at least for me
    which is better? can't say, both creates differrent medium of work

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 23 дня назад

    Cool vid bro.😺

  • @Speartopia
    @Speartopia 21 день назад

    I have a theory, that the majority of Miyazaki's films are more connected then we think. With multiple species of animals and similar architecture showing up in different movies. While you could say that its down to creative creative similarities. The inclusion of the fox squirrel kind of breaks this idea.
    The fox squirrel shows up in, Kiki's delivery service, obviously nausica, castle in the sky, tototdo, the cat returns, poco roco, princes mononoke,
    I believe the time line is this.
    Mononoke, howls moving castle, poco roco, Kiki's, cat returns, nausica, castle in the sky, then tototdo (set in the present).

  • @MaQuGo119
    @MaQuGo119 Месяц назад +1

    Everyone forgets Hidetaka also makes his games with tons of verticality

  • @Deadnight-ei6lp
    @Deadnight-ei6lp Месяц назад +1

    I think Hayao Miyazaki is just tired. he's old and was born during a really miserable time, and animation can be unbelievably soul crushing to both do and direct. Remember, the man is 83 years old.

  • @ryankeith2712
    @ryankeith2712 Месяц назад +1

    When you said that Miyazaki won I broke down and cried, so happy someone finally said it

  • @scarecrowhobo
    @scarecrowhobo Месяц назад +1

    Imagine listening to this without visuals

  • @ObjectiveZoomer
    @ObjectiveZoomer Месяц назад +1

    As far as influence goes, give it 20 years

  • @welton9748
    @welton9748 Месяц назад +2

    The two spaces after "vs" in the title of the video were a mistake...
    ...like anime
    Edit: thank you for fixing it

  • @CrimsonDragonX7
    @CrimsonDragonX7 Месяц назад +1

    Mad respect for acknowledging your bias, (although i agree totally)

  • @petrox859
    @petrox859 Месяц назад

    great video

  • @Ex-memegodita
    @Ex-memegodita Месяц назад +1

    Loved the films of Miyazaki, loved the games of Miyazaki, it's hard to choose between Miyazaki and Miyazaki, but I honestly love Miyazaki more because of the things that his art gives to you and also because he loves my country, so Miyazaki is the final choice.
    Yes, I've decided to use just the last names for the meme and for confusing you and no, I will not tell which one I'm referring to.

  • @Hepheat75
    @Hepheat75 Месяц назад +1

    Both Miyazakis are absolute legends. They both came from nothing to masters of their craft.

  • @Kodama666
    @Kodama666 Месяц назад +1

    i relate this to something i see in music often, hayao is like the arctic monkeys of music, a master of their craft to be sure, but with hooks for the masses. Meanwhile hidetaka is like the guitarist for some avant garde technical death metal band with 7 minute long solo's and 600 different 1/8th notes a minute all arpeggiated perfectly, but the only people who love it are people who are already in the community (metal nerds for this example)

  • @ferro9926
    @ferro9926 Месяц назад

    I want to see these two work together to make the first happy fromsoft soulslike game

  • @popkhorne5372
    @popkhorne5372 Месяц назад +3

    I vote for Michael Zaki

  • @huhhehe6uey656
    @huhhehe6uey656 25 дней назад

    both take a long time to make a high quality product. Both are Goat.

  • @GemayelDaniel
    @GemayelDaniel Месяц назад +1

    Miyazaki should become a title for GOATs

  • @bombomos
    @bombomos 29 дней назад

    Ito is the same way, dude is a ball of joy but makes some of the most horrifying work lol